S3 E23: Who Knew Easter Could Be This Messy?

Did your Easter look more like chaos and chocolate-fueled meltdowns than a curated Instagram post? Good,you're in the right place.

We’re talking missed church, egg fights, and one mom wondering if ungrateful kids are part of the resurrection story. Meanwhile, influencers are out here staging gender reveals like it's the Oscars.

Then, 20-year-old Reese hops on with wisdom that’ll make you question your whole parenting strategy, in a good way. Her secret? Less control, more trust, and remembering that none of us has it figured out.

Moral of the story? It’s not that deep. Your kids don’t need perfect, they just need you.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you, and Crystal makes fun of methe whole time and it's great
and it's real.
Welcome to Jerking Around.

(00:24):
Welcome to Jerking Around.
Welcome to Jerking Around.
There's a.
There's a mischievous.
What's happening, melissa.
It's something's weird.
I know I was too busy jerkingaround to get set.
Oh, the hairs are driving mecrazy.
I'm shedding so bad.
My hair is so thin.
Now we can talk about Easter,remember.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, we did want to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Tell about your bad day I will I like your when you
do that.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I know I like when you just tell about your shitty
life.
You know cool.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I wonder if, when people are listening see, it's
great we have Reese here becauseshe does listen, yeah, and it's
like if they're just like she'sin love with her, because, like
when you're, when you'retalking, I'm all and you're like
the car's blue and I'm like,well then, I have a false sense
of how funny I am.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm going to hollywood next week, guys,
because you've like inflated myego.
I think that's how you went.
Well, I'm like no one's asfunny as me.
I just have you laughing at meconstantly and like there's
people way funnier, but like Idon't think there is.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
You're so funny, yeah , so many people have said that
to me.
They're like I just laugh atthe way you laugh at her.
Yeah, and I'm all.
Oh, no, I'm like I'm so funnyand it's because of you I'm not.
I do think you're so funny,thank you.
Many people would agree yeah, Idon't think it's like a false.
That means a lot.
Yeah, but I do think you're sofunny, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I do feel like it's giving me a false you know like,
yeah, like you can, you made methink I could.
Yeah, like I might have my owncomedy show soon.
I don't know, you wanted to, Idid, but okay, let's dive in.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Okay, welcome to jerking around.
This is a real start, okay.
So, brooke Raybird, oh, shoot,is that how I say?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
your name?
I?
I don't think so, but it'sshutter baby.
Yeah, and you cried.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I got it's with the gender reveal, okay.
So question yeah, and you cried, I cried With the gender reveal
.
Okay.
So question for you, because Idid want.
Did you see I sent you one, didI send you a two?
I watched the gender reveal.
Did you see the?
Did you see the nursery?
No, okay, so she.
So they didn't find out thegender Right and she had a boy.
So, guys, we've talked abouther.

(02:26):
Four boys, one girl, remember.
So it's mama five boys.
She has her, her tagline ready.
Yeah, mama, five boys.
But, um, they showed hernursery is in her house and she
wasn't allowed to see it and thelady, the designer, knew the
sex.
So, like they designed, it forthe boy.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
But like when the cameras aren't rolling, you're
100% peaking at the nursery yeah, I was like there's no way on
the planet.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I'm not peeking at the nursery.
No way on the planet, do you?
I was like there's no way onthe planet.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm not peeking at the nursery to know what I'm
having?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
No way on the planet.
Do you think it was like we'renot telling the world what we're
having?
But she did take a minute aftershe found out before she would
post about it.
And I do think you have alwaysfound out the sex, right?
Yes, see, I have not found outthe sex twice.
My first two pregnancies Ididn't, and with Hudson, my girl
that actually has a boy name, Ithought it was a boy the whole

(03:07):
time.
Yeah, so it was super weird.
It was like it in your bellyyou don't like connect the whole
time and then when she came out, everybody thought it was going
to be a boy.
So there was this moment whereit was like, oh, it's a girl.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's a girl, yeah, and she has red hair.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like you're a little caught off guard, yeah, you're
just like oh, you need a minute,so like I remember I would look
at her in the middle of thenight and it was like red and
I'm like that's not Maddie, likeit was just like it took time,
yeah.
So I feel like Brooke didn'tlike share that it was a boy for
like a day and a half and Ifeel like she was like changing
her attitude because then, yeah,she did this like voiceover.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, I also think that influencers do this.
They like wait to post thingsTo build momentum.
Yes, oh, I was dying to know100%.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying I was dying to know it
worked like a charm.
Oh, I was checking it.
They all do that.
I was checking it more than Iwas checking my bank account
Exactly.
They do that.
They know that.
It was a play by play.
If you're showing, you're going.
She's eating ice, she's gettingan epidural, but then you need
a day.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
They showed her pushing with her legs Right, but
then you need time.
No, it's fake.
Yeah, see, I fall right into itevery time.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
No, it's like I would do that too if I was.
You know, I know.
So she has a boy.
So now she my language.
I'm like I'm going to be Brooke.
Yeah, you know, but I haven'twoken up at 5 yet, but I'm still
thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
She worked out the day she delivered.
I know.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I can't get over it.
I think it's great, though.
So do you not Like I?
Just buy into it.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Wait a long time Like what's going on?
Why are you working out?
It's so weird to me.
I believe all these people andyou think I'm an idiot.
I know I feel like the truth issomewhere in the middle, you
know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Anyways.
So now she's posting withoutmakeup because she doesn't want
people to think that she's thatkind of mom.
She wants to level it out forthe moms.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
She wants to be like authentic.
She's saying, yeah, like I havea newborn, I'm not putting red
lipstick on.
She wants to be like authentic.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
She's saying yeah, like, hey, like, I have a
newborn, I'm not putting redlipstick on.
Yes, gotcha.
She got on and said that yeah,before the nursery reveal.
She said, just so you know, Igot a full night's sleep the
first night, so I got up and gotready, but I want you to know
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I'm enjoying the baby face.
Yeah Well, be like.
Why are you getting ready Likeit's not real?
She doesn't have the hatecomments that we have.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Totally she's.
I know I was all.
Let's see what Brooke has.
It's probably like you know,you're ugly too and it was all.
Thank you, brooke, and I wasall what the it's not the same.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's not the same at all we posted like a.
So our other posts were likeanti-men, which were not
anti-man, were pro-man.
So then finally, there was apro-man one, and then the people
got on and they're like diggingyourself out of the grave like
they were still mad.
They're like oh yeah, becauseyour earlier comment.
Now you're digging yourself outof the grave and that is all
they hate us on tiktok, but it'sfine, yeah, it's not made for

(06:00):
tiktok.
No, it's there for young kids.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I'm not a tToker, so young kids don't like as much,
not going to be inappropriate,but anyways, brooke, so I've
been watching the Kardashians.
Did you watch the last season?
I watched half of it.
Yeah, it's kind of boring, likereally boring, and it's so fake
.
They're all producers and I'mlike you're editing everything
you're putting out, butCourtney's so into being a mom.
It's kind of nice.

(06:23):
Yeah, she's my favorite.
Yeah, she's very into being amom, very into.
But it's a little weird likethe whole co-sleeping.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I don't think it's weird In like the world, that's
like how you sleep, like in thewhole world, like the only
culture that does sleep trainingis Americans, Really, yeah, so
what do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I don't think it's natural.
Why are you doing your shakeyour head?
You're Americans.
Yeah, what's wrong?
What do you mean?
You think you're supposed tosleep with your kid in your bed?
Oh, don't clip this.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I'm going to get like death threats.
You know, wait, you do.
No, I think we've neverco-slept.
I've saying like newborns, theyneed that, this they I read
this thing that said they wakeup startled.
They don't sleep as good whenthey're not near you.

(07:09):
They need to be hearing yoursounds, smelling your smells,
all those things to sleep.
But yeah, every culture,animals, everything.
They sleep with the mom forlike a long time.
So that's why the kids arecrying and they're like oh,
self-soothe and it's.
They're not even self-soothing,they're just.
They learn to like just dealwith it.
Yeah, so if you were to go back, would you co-sleep?

(07:31):
I wouldn't be against it.
I don't know, ben, is we're notlike sleep kids in the bed?
We've never had a kid in thebed, see, I've never had a next
to the bed, but in like its ownthing.
Why?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
don't you have him in the bed because so many freaky
things go on?
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
I'm a get your popcorn kids, you know?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Remember, didn't you say, Fox was watching once?
No, what the hell.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's like abuse, like that's wrong, that's like
I'm going to jail.
Thank you, you know, I think itdid happen.
No, the dogs, he was little.
The dogs, no, the dogs in theback and play.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I remember no, yeah, he was like no, I don't remember
that really.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
No, I don't think I made that up.
I mean, I don't know, but thatnever happened for DCS, never
happened like what it's like,fully wrong, fully illegal.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Tell your sleep.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Sleep story oh yeah, the sleep story.
So bear my almost youngest 12.
He sleepwalks.
He's when he doesn't do itevery night, but he's done it
consistently.
He's done it at friends houses.
It's when he's overtired, doyou think?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
our listeners hear you talking about bear and they
think you're talking about no,but I do have a new fear of the
bees.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Did you see the bees attack the woman on the paloma
hike right by her house Recently?
I have a fear of that Everytime I'm hiking.
I told Jen and Kara I'm likeI'm scared of the bees.
Like I have a plan I lay on theground.
They can chase you for up to200 yards Like it's crazy.
So what does laying on theground do?
Well, if they're non-Afric,their nest gets too populated.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Where do you read?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
this stuff, I just love to research.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Like.
What's your research, though?
A lot of times it's likeInstagram, no, like the internet
, so you google how to not getstung by bees.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, like they can chase you, they will chase you
up to 200 yards.
I read Um, that's like crazy,so, but like you can't and
they'll wait for you, if youjump in water, they'll wait
above the water.
It's like, it's like crazy.
So what happens is the hivegets over.
So if you lay down, it's justfine.
Well, if they'renon-Africanized the ones that

(09:30):
attack these people, they'resaying we're Africanized.
Those are the very aggressive,like killer bees.
Yeah, so anyways, they attackthese people, like all three of
them.
The guy had an EpiPen.
I'm like thank goodness he hadhis EpiPen, but anyways, so,
anyways, back to what?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I was saying.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
So Bear wakes up in the middle of the night and I
just happen to wake up to go tothe bathroom and then I hear him
coming in my room crying andhe's like asleep, but he's
frantic and he cries and usuallyhe has to pee and that's what
wakes him up.
So I usually just walk him togo pee and then he pees and then
he walks right back to bed.
Well, he pees and then he'slike I had a bad dream and I'm

(10:06):
like okay, and he's like I havea bloody nose.
He doesn't have a bloody nose.
He's like I have a bloody noseand he's going.
I just think I snorted, buthe's going and he's like I have
a bloody nose and I'm like noseis just stuff.
He's like do you have thatthing like flow?
Nays, so I'm sifting with mylight trying to find the flow.

(10:28):
Nays, so he's like crying very,come into your room.
Yes, he's crying very loudly.
So I don't.
Him and Fox share a room so Idon't want to take him back to
his room because he's gonna wakeFox up.
So I sit him on the couch andI'm like bear, wake up.
And I try, you try, waking themup.
They say don't wake asleepwalker because it can like,
startle them and I don't knowwhat can happen, Like I don't
know they can their heart stop,I don't know.
They say, don't wake them.

(10:49):
But I'm like okay, bear, wakeup.
I'm getting done with it nowit's, it's escalating, it's
going on.
For now we're on like five to.
So I'm like, okay, I'm givinghim the flow, nays, Okay.
So I walk him back to his roomand he's screaming Like my nose,

(11:10):
my nose, I can't breathe.
So I'm trying to cover hismouth because, like Fox is
sleeping and I'm like bear, shh,I'm going to throw you in the
pool.
I'm trying to like, scare himstraight.
You know, I'm like, scare himstraight.
You know, I'm like bear, I'mgonna throw you in the pool to
wake him up.
And he's like so I'm coveringhis mouth.
And then he starts are you like?
Aggressively, like is he likefighting you?
Yeah, he's fighting and he'sfrantic.
So I'm like bear, so I'mclasping, I'm like trying to

(11:32):
cover his mouth.
And then he's like you'retrying to kill me.
And he starts screaming.
I'm trying to kill him and I'mlike oh my gosh.
So then I'm like am I trying tokill him?

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Like I mean, I'm not so did you keep covering his
mouth?
Well, I'm like shh shh Fox issleeping.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
And then I'm like stop, stop.
So I'm covering his mouth andhe's like you're trying to kill
me and I'm like I'm not tryingto kill you, but I might if you
don't stop.
Is anyone waking up at this?
No, finally, calm down.
Finally he's like he woke upand then I'm like go to bed.
Go to bed.
And he's like alright, and he'scrying and I'm like go to bed,
so I just leave.

(12:07):
And then the next morning I'mlike Bear, do you remember me
saying me trying to cover yourmouth because you were screaming
?
You kept saying I was trying tokill you and he's like no, he
had no recollection.
Does he do it?
A?
Our like eight hour layover inthe airport on the way to the
Bahamas, he, we had to sleep onthe airport floor and then he
woke up and he was sleepwalkingand he was like.

(12:28):
He like woke up in the airportand then he was like, and he
just like kept walking around,going and we were like bear.
So weird and but like the wayyou do, yeah, and it was like
okay, bear, and it's kind ofannoying that we're not, we're
not, we've been dealing withthis for so many years.

(12:49):
So we're not like nice about itanymore, we're like knock it off
, you know, because we're likedesensitized to it.
So he like talking to peopleand he's like and he's just
looking around and people areprobably like this guy's like
what you know, and I'm like laydown, you know.
So what does he do?
He just like he woke up.
He like sits right up and he'slike does he lay down?

(13:11):
No, he's like, and then he'llwalk and like he's asleep.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
It's weird and you just have to lean him.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I'm like do you need to pee?
It's usually he has to pee.
That wakes him up, but he'slike asleep because he's so
tired oh, that's so funny buthe's done it at people's houses
just like he's.
He our friends Jeff and Julie,he spent the night there.
He's like yeah, bear just wokeup screaming, you know, it's
like so awkward.
I'm like I'm sorry what didthey do?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
has he ever done it?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
your house no yeah, I'm like he just has to pee,
just lead him to the bathroom.
You know, jeff, lead him to thebathroom.
I think so I can.
I can't remember.
Oh, that's so funny, but likehe'll pee in like a random place
, like he doesn't know where heis.
You know, yeah, has he peed inthe corner of your house?
I feel like he has.
Yeah, oh, were you so mad?
Yeah, and we just have to leadhim like over here, bud, you
know, did he pee?

(13:59):
All that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
So anyways, so Easter it wasn't that great of a story
.
It was funny.
I mean it's concerning andfunny all together.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, but I wasn't trying to kill him, like it's so
, jerry's out.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
But like he thought that and he's like, yeah, I had
a dream.
Well, yeah, when someone'scovering your mouth like it's
normal, like you're like, howdare you think that you know
what was your Easter?
Like, yeah, it was good.
How was yours?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
no, yours wasn't good no, we had a rough morning.
Yeah, yeah, well, and I wasgonna say well, this was like
one of those things whereInstagram everyone's posting
like the Easter pick, happyEaster.
Their siblings are all lovingeach other.
Yeah, um, you know like we.
Well, it started off rough thenight before because it was a
last minute Easter basket and soBen didn't want me going to
Target 10 o'clock at night bymyself.
Yeah, so he's like I'll go withyou, but then I don't like when

(14:51):
he's a part of the things.
Yeah, because then he's likereally mad about the money.
Yeah, he's like this isridiculous.
I'm all, it's a candy bar.
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
So does he not like?
Do you ever get like whoa, youspent this much at target?
Or he doesn't really use mycredit card and he doesn't know.
He doesn't always know he neverknows.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
So he was there seeing I like do all christmas
on my credit card.
He's like how much are wespending on christmas?
I'll do a little on the jointaccount.
Yeah, just to like act likeit's christmas.
Yeah, like oh, because if Inothing, he'd be like well,
where'd that?
You know?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
ferrari come from.
No, I'm just kidding.
So your credit card is separate, not so it's seeming like you
have two separate lives.
It's like your work account,but you don't write it off for
work, you just use it aspersonal yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
So I have a personal credit card that he doesn't see.
He has access to it, but hedoesn't really check it and I'll
put like work stuff or whatever.
So then do you pay that withyour own money, like your work,
yes, or your?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
money with both.
So when you make that payment,isn't he like whoa well, like,
so I'll book.
I mean, I'm just saying kyleknows if there's anything spent
that's how I am.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm all.
What's this?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
yeah, literally last night before bed, we had to go
over target and then what wasthis?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm the kyle and I'm just like oh yeah, so no.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
So my work card so if you pay, make a payment on the
credit card, he's not like whatwas that payment for?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
oh I'm like hey, we, I bought the plane tickets like
he doesn't know, like whatthings cost, because I get well
that's like.
Kyle, I plan all the travel.
So I'll be like, hey, this likethe flights or like excursions
or whatever, and then you'llmove money.
So I'll be like, hey, I need tomake like a credit card payment
, I need like five thousanddollars to pay it, and he

(16:26):
doesn't know that.
Like I went to abercrombie andlike you know, it works great.
You know, yeah, your othertickets were high.
Yeah, that's what I do.
I'm like, oh, I was a fortune,you know, and then I was all
booking it with points, you know.
You know, no money battles are,yeah, real and I'm not advising
this.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
This is not advice, this is not what Dave Ramsey
says.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
No, because I you know Dave's very communicative
yeah and real and I'm not sayingthis works for everybody but
this works for us um, but if wewere also like I feel like I'm
in touch with, like I alwaysfeel like I can pay it with my
work account if needed.
It's not like I'm just puttinganything on there and like, oh,

(17:08):
shoot, you know.
So, anyways, I buy theChristmas presents on there, so
the Easter.
So he comes with me.
He's being like a Scrooge.
So I was like trying to decidewhat gift cards is their older?
So I got him each a gift cardand like I didn't know what to
get Bear, I got Fox Fortnitegift card and then I was like
grabbing it for bear.
And then I was like I feel likebear won't like this and Ben's
like it's fine, just get it.

(17:29):
So I was kind of under the gun,so I got it.
So the next morning bear wokeup and I think he was
disappointed about his gift card, but he was still sweet about
it.
He was just like, oh yeah.
And so Ben was like these kidsare ungrateful.
He was like on the ungratefultrain.
So it's oh.
The morning started off.
We were supposed to go tosunrise service and ben always
wakes up at 5 am every day.

(17:50):
So I was like, hey, you gonnawake us up.
Like I'm not double like I'llset my own alarm when we have
like to go somewhere, but heusually has it.
So he's like, yeah, I got it.
He slept in, we all slept in.
We missed sunrise service, soit started the easter off on
like a.
I was annoyed.
So when I'm annoyed it's notthe best, it's different, the

(18:11):
vibe is different.
It's it's like no one can getover it.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I can't get over it, so no one's getting over it you
know you want everyone torealize how much this ruined
your day exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, so I was like this is really disappointing.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
You know, you said that yeah, as I'm drinking my
coffee, I'm like looking at himyeah, I'm all well, geez.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
And he's like well, let's throw on sweats and be
there in 10 minutes.
I'm all, we're not throwingsweats on, like I was nasty to
him.
And then he's like sorry, honey, we went to bed at 11 o'clock,
I was just tired and I'm alldrinking my coffee, you know,
and like, um, he's probablythinking quit drinking your
coffee and we can make it, youjackass.
That's probably what he'sthinking, but he didn't say that

(18:50):
because he knew better.
So we missed the easter service.
We had to go to the 8 30 thatpushed our movie back.
It was just like it was.
And then the kids he felt likethe kids weren't grateful.
So then he's taking everythingaway from the kids.
Oh, I hate that bear got a bunchof candy for his.
He has an upcoming um schooltrip and he was all excited for
candy on the bus.
And he's like you're not havingcandy on the bus.

(19:11):
I'm like why are we doing thisright now?
So then I'm mad at him.
So then it like escalated tolike a family fight.
Everyone's mad at everybody.
It was just like a really bad,like we should have been
celebrating Easter and Jesus andall the things, and we were
nasty.
So then we went to church.
It got a little better.
Then we had an egg hunt andthen it was fine.

(19:36):
But some of the kids weredisappointed.
They didn't get the golden egg.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh, is there one golden egg?
There's one golden egg.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Who gets it?
Well, whoever finds it, oh yeah, what's?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
in the golden egg, who gets?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
it Well, whoever finds it.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Oh yeah, what's in the golden egg Money?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
So it's like a dash, it's excited, yeah.
So it was in the bottom of thepool.
So Bear saw it, jumped in thebottom of the pool, got it Fully
dressed, yes, okay.
So then, yeah.
So then it was like some peoplewere disappointed.
Then you're mad, they'redisappointed, yeah.
And then I'm thinking, oh, Ishould have done more.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Like you know, I'm just like I want to make the
memories.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, this should have, and then Ben's like I
can't believe there's a $50 billin the Golden Egg, like you
know, and it's just like I'mdoing the shut, the fuck up, you
know on.
Easter in my head.
I'm all uh, was probably juststill reeling from getting
yelled at all morning, I don'tknow.
So anyways, we finally, at 6.40at night, went and saw our

(20:30):
movie.
We were supposed to see themovie in the morning, it got
postponed to the night and thewhole time we didn't get a
picture at church, andeveryone's getting the church
picture.
So I was like, oh, we're aloser family, you know, you're
feeling that.
And then, and then we finallywent to the movie at 6 o'clock
at night and then it changedeverything.
It was the king of kings.
It was so good.
And then I was like, yeah,that's the true meaning.

(20:51):
And then after the movie wewere all in the best mood and I
was like it's just a shamethough, the whole day.
Yeah, it was like we were allkind of irritable with each
other and then my kids were mad.
We weren't going to hang out atyour house with your kids.
It was just kind of like anungrateful vibe.
Yeah, but they didn't mean tobe ungrateful.
And then Ben was mad.
They were ungrateful.
Do you think that?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
as a kid?
Did you put pressure on thoseholidays Like ever on Easter?
Were you ever like this suckscompared to what other people
are doing?
Or do you think without socialmedia, we didn't know what
anybody was doing?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, I was bopping around to 10 houses.
It was horrible.
Yeah, bopping around to 10houses, it was horrible.
Yeah, but you didn't likecompare it.
No, yeah, totally.
But I think when you see, likeme, seeing the church pictures,
like everyone's family, all Ilove you, I'm all well.
My siblings were punching eachother earlier, so that's fun.
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I know this is such a topic about Instagram because
Reese was just talking to Hudsonabout this today.
So I feel like I just want topivot and bring this in because
I want her opinion on, yeah,what it's like from her
perspective.
Yeah, so, let's, let'sintroduce her, okay, okay.
So today we have a specialguest.
We brought her in for half ofit because I want her opinion on
stuff.
She's looks like a model, she'sa good girl, she's my cousin.

(22:01):
We're obsessed with her.
We're obsessed with her.
Yeah, she and I are like soobsessed with her every day
she'll send her.
Yeah, it is Tisha and I arelike so obsessed with her every
day.
She'll send us picturessometimes, or we find them, and
then Tisha makes it herscreensaver.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I told her is this weird, if this is my lock screen
?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, but what the thing is about Reese why I think
she's an asset to the podcastis she has a really good family.
I'm not saying it because it'spart of her aunt like I'm home.
So she's a whole turf which isour family.
But her parents are reallyspecial.
They're different.
They're.
All of her siblings are justgreat people.
All of her cousins are greatpeople.
It's just like a differentperspective on how her parents

(22:35):
raised her to be like a goodgirl.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Successful athlete makes good choices like if my
kid turns out like this, I'mbeside myself.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So I want to get her perspective on like parenting
and making good choices, makingbad choices, instagram, so I was
going to save it, but now thatwe're talking about it yeah, I'm
curious if she's ever had thatfrom the kids perspective.
Yeah, so we're going to bringReese Holtorf on and we'll post
a picture so you can see herbody.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I know it's oh, you can have the pillow.
No, you can have it.
No, most of them will grab youanother.
We like the pillow.
It's like a comfort.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
It's like a comfort, like a blankie.
Yeah, you feel like on displayvery isn't it weird?
No, as soon as you're under thelights, it's intimidating.
Yeah, just talk to us.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I know it's awful.
I know I'm like sweating everytime the real, my hair looks
horrible anyways.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Okay.
So easter, so we'll dive in.
We're gonna talk to race more,but I'm curious.
Her opinion.
Yeah, when kids are growing up,do they, especially if they
don't have instagram?
Do kids have?
Like, I was telling you this isthe dumbest thing, but I always
hide eggs and then the kids arejerks about the eggs.
They're pissed about having tofind all the eggs.
Your kids, yes, yeah.
So then this year we only didone golden egg.

(23:39):
We did do it for all of them,equal money.
But that's bonnie, everything'sequal.
Yeah, you know so.
But then they were mad.
It was only one egg and I'mlike this is so stupid.
Every year you're annoyed.
You have to find the eggs.
It's like you think you have toclean up.
They were jerks last year so Ididn't do the eggs.
But then I'm like do they carebecause they're comparing to
other people that have an egghunt, or do they really care?
I don't know.

(24:00):
So, like, growing up, likeReese, tell us what your Easter
was like this year and let's seeif you had any issues.
I feel like your family isPleasantville.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Though I know it's annoying, they all love each
other.
I know, were they punching eachother five minutes?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
No, and they're all so nice to each other.
Her siblings, they're all niceto each other, but it's
different.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
They're all supportive.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
You do yeah Over like silly things.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
But then we're like what are we doing?
Like seriously, what are wedoing?
Why are we fighting over?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
you're wearing my shirt Like really yeah, oh, my
girls are fighting about thatevery day right now.
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I fought with my sister.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's normal.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, they're really nasty about it too.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I feel like it's different between each sibling.
Like me and Riley foughtthroughout all of high school.
We would drive together and shewould like the air turned all
the way out hot and I'm sweatingbecause I tried on 20 different
outfits because I had myoutfits and I'm like, please
turn the air conditioning on.
We would fight the whole way toschool.
So I feel like it's differenteach sibling, but I feel like
once you get almost out of highschool, it's like you're friends

(25:04):
with your siblings, like it'snot.
They're not your sister,they're not your brother yeah,
and like even now that I'm older, it's like Reed's my friend.
Like, yeah, I can yell at him,but like he's my like friend
like, yeah, so she has four.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
There's four of them yeah, so there's three girls and
one boy.
Yes, and you're second.
Yeah, yes, and your.
Your oldest sister is two years.
Yes, riley's 22, riley, andRiley's the one that married
Noah.
That dated seven years, and wetalked about how they waited
until they were married.
Yes, so that's Riley.
And then there's Reese, andthen Reagan's two years younger
yes, reagan's a senior in highschool and then Reed as a

(25:34):
freshman in high school.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Three years, yeah, yeah.
So two, two, three, yeah, yeah,yeah.
So, like it's usually just me,ma will host something which is
our grandma, my dad's mom.
But this year we went to our mymom's mom's house on Saturday
night so that everyone couldmake it and we just all ate, and
then we did like a little gameand the game Incorporated like

(25:57):
gifts or candy.
It was like super fun.
We were me my plan date Mimi.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, me, me, yes, that's cute yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Should we just like?
You had a bounce, a ping-pongball, a cupcake holder and then,
whatever number you got, youbasically picked the matching
prize.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
And it was like candy or like $2.
How'd she know to do that?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
See, I should have done it again, as you're getting
older, do you feel like thosethings are still just as fun,
like, do you love, like thelittle things that like parents
do to make things special forthe kids, or do you feel like it
doesn't matter now that you'reolder, I mean, it's not really
fun but it's tradition, yeah, soit's like, oh, like it's easter
, like it's just a traditionwhat we do I feel like my kids
are really starting to lean intothe tradition.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, I thought they didn't care about.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
We talked about that, remember on the phone.
Yeah, remember I was walking.
No, we remember we talked aboutthe ski trip and stuff.
Yeah, oh yeah, I feel like thesunrise.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
They've always yelled about it.
This year they're like we'regoing to sunrise yeah you care.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yes, I feel like it's a tradition behind it, not like
the actual game or the twodollars and it's like the
nostalgia.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Mimi, yes, always does the game she'll don't shut,
yeah, she'll usually dosomething always different.
Yeah, they're always different.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Some game, some small thing, like whether it's an
easter hunt or an egg hunt or alittle game, like she always
plans different things.
That's cute.
And then Sunday we went tosunrise service we always that's
usually the service we go toand then we went over to
Meemaw's for like a later lunchand that's where everyone met
over there and we ate.
And then we did an Easter egghunt and we each get to find yes

(27:16):
, but it's even so.
we each find nine regular eggsand one golden egg.
You only get one golden egg,but there's a golden egg for
everyone.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Maybe that's where I went wrong with the one golden
egg, but like life's just notfair.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
See, I think only one person should get the golden
egg.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I'm like, if you're going to make eight, golden eggs
with 50 bucks put all thatmoney in one golden egg and hide
it so hard, and whoever findsit gets it.
That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I don't think it's that.
I don't think you can lose.
Sometimes there is one winner,yeah, in life, and then
sometimes, like, because it'sfamily, yeah, I think it gets
more like yeah, you know, likeyeah.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Oh, like I'd be pissed if Reagan found the
golden egg right, well, that,yeah, and that happened so
what's in the golden egg?
Uh, there was 25 dollars in thegolden egg.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
That's really great she does all that and still
hides nine eggs.
Yes, she and you guys are allold.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, so they have the regular eggs, just have
quarters in them, and you knowthis every year, yes, and then
the golden egg has cash and shelike hides them.
My mom and Stacy hid them thisyear.
So they're like guys turnaround, like don't look.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
And they still do, and they hide them out back, see
I wonder if that's so.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
I get to go find nine quarters.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's just, you love the traditions, I do feel like
we're both big on traditionsBecause we didn't have many,
yeah, and we work to maketraditions even with each other
at the kids you know?

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, I just feel like you know you're going to do
it, tisha has a tradition.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, I'm all.
I'm going to kill yourtradition.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like it's so weird, I'm all next year.
Your kids are going to be apart of it.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
And look, she just laughs at you.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
It's serious and I'm funny and it's not funny, it's
stupid.
Nobody's laughing, nobody'slaughing.
It's not like I don't even knowwhat you're laughing at right
now.
I know it's like thanks, ruthisn't invited back because she
makes me feel not funny, no, butlike I'm being real.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
What are?
I think she's so funny, likeeverywhere I'm out there like
it's like I'm never sick of it.
It's weird, it's like it's alesbian, but okay, it's fine.
This is helpful.
I like all this because Bonnie,my mother-in-law, is wonderful.
She always does such cutethings.
Yeah, and like now that I'mgetting older, I'm like crap.
I was an adult.
I don't know why I said it likethat, but adult I'm like crap.
I was an adult.
I don't know why I said it likethat yeah, adult, I'm a Adult,

(29:32):
but continue, I was an adult andwe sold to Kyle's and we got to
find the egg and I thought itwas like so fun.
Yeah, I love my family, but wedidn't do that stuff growing up,
Right, but I kind of tend to belike that.
I'm like eh, you, I'm like eh,you know like kind of how my
family was, yeah, but like Ilove how Bonnie is, so it's like
big shoes to follow, becauseI'm like Bonnie still makes it
cute.
She still did an egg hunt foreveryone.
She's cute, yeah, and everyonehad a basket with the bathing

(29:54):
suit and like you're right, it'sa tradition of it.
That's cute.
So do you guys ever, does yourmom ever yell no?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
My mom doesn't yell.
If she does yell, no Guys, shecan't say the word pissed.
So when she's pissed off,she'll be like I'm so peaced
right now, like you guys arepeacing me off.
Do you just laugh?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I just laugh.
She never cusses, huh.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
No, but when she does , it's hilarious, we all just
laugh at her.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
The other day, crystal, we were on the phone
and then I was.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Mom, this is so embarrassing.
I had someone else's kid withme in the car, oh, and I didn't
even know the girl that well.
So it was like really awkward.
My brother was already flippingmy kids off at the game.
Oh gosh, all this went on withthe poor girl that was with us
and I apologized to her tentimes.
Yeah, so we're finally alone inthe car and I'm almost home.
Nothing bad's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
And I'm talking to her on speaker, which I'm not a
speaker girl.
I always tell people do not putme on speaker, you never know
what's coming out.
So all of a sudden my two boysare fighting and then all of a
sudden, I hear a loud crash andthen screaming.
It was like a pitch scream OK.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yes, so I'm like.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I thought someone broke their arm.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
So I'm like I just hung up.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm like who's her?
And so she just hung up likemid, so I'm like Miss Tisha gets
a little frustrated sometimes.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I'm sorry about that.
I'm all.
That's my best friend.
I'm sorry.
I was on the phone with her.
She doesn't really talk likethat.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I got to work on it.
I can't cuss.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
It's so trash.
Well, what you said in the carwas what About the half off?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Oh my God, no see, I just don't like it.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, I feel like it.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I don't want to be trashy though I don't think
you're trashy at all, but I dothink our kids do mirror what we
do, yeah.
So I do think it's like likethis is dumb.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
But when I'm driving and texting, my kids are gonna
drive and text.
Yeah, they do what we do, notwhat we say not to do.
So I do think like if you wantyour kids not to cuss, it's
probably good, you don't.
Yes, you know what I meanbecause they do what we do, so
yours are gonna have sex wings.
I don't do that, I'm justkidding.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I'm not into that.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I do think a lot of it has to do with how you were
raised, because, like I see,like I know people who cuss all
the time, who are my age andit's like you look at their
parents and their parents aredropping F-bombs every other
word.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
And I don't think you cuss a lot.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
It's when I'm mad, I can't hold it and I need to work
on that.
No, but I think sometimes it'slike you gotta let it out.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
And sometimes it's justified by like oh shoot, I've
gone too far.
But like I think yeah, I thinkI don't know my brother cusses.
Like yeah, people cuss.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Kids cuss, yeah, yeah , yeah, see, like, yeah, but
like not bad, but like they docuss.
Yeah, my kids cuss because hecusses, you know.
Yeah, like it's like, it's likeyou're around, well, and that's
something I'm going throughwith Reed right now.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
It's like he's now that he's in high school and
he's surrounded by he's on thebaseball team Like clearly they
all are cussing, droppingF-bombs all the time.
And then, like, when we'rearound the baseball guys, I'll
hear him say something and I'mlike what are you doing?
And it's like out of character.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yes, and I'm like don't talk like that.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
And then I sent him a Bible verse about like watching
your tongue the other day.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
He's like this was really good.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Thank you, love you.
Like I can't even say it, sayit please.
Ken paid CJ $30 last night todo her report.
Fully did it.
She didn't even sit there.
She's like I'm going to gowatch my show.
I'm like and I let it happen,like it's horrible but like
that's a life skill.

(33:23):
If you can't do something, findsomeone who can.
I agree.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I do that all the time.
It's their own money.
Yeah, totally.
I don't think it's thathorrible.
But no, they're really cute andyou're really cute to each
other.
You're not nasty to each other.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, I mean, we get nasty, like me, and Reagan get
after it.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, I remember when you were younger it was like
you would battle like fist fight.
Yes, I've never seen them beanything but loving to each
other.
No, I think they like I'venever heard.
So her parents were high schoolsweethearts they got married,
like how old were they?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
my mom was 21.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I'm pretty sure she had riley around 22 or 23 yeah,
they were high schoolsweethearts from like freshman
year yes, my mom was 14 or 15when she met my dad, yeah, as
well as her aunt and uncles,were all high school sweethearts
that married their high schoolsweetheart.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So question so I and your older sister married her
high school sweetheart.
So do you feel like a pressureto meet the one in high school
and did you feel that to meetthe one and get married?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
No, oh that's good, Because I was like I don't know,
I don't feel like you have to,like you're not going to always
marry your high schoolsweetheart, and like, so I just
went.
I'm going through a breakupright now.
Um, I'm two months into beingbroken up with which?
I'm like what an idiot yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Look at you yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
The people are going to be like banging down yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
We'll post your snap below.
Exactly Good girl too.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah.
He was my first boyfriend andwe dated, so I didn't have my
first kiss till junior year.
I was kind of, I love that yeah, so I was going into my summer
of junior year.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I was old, but I love that but then it was meaningful
and with the right person.
No, it wasn't with Jackson.
Oh, edit, edit it never works.
But okay, okay, so, yeah, so itwasn't.
Was it meaningful after allthat?
No, I had my first kiss.
It was stupid.
He was like were you feelingpressured?
Like I haven't kissed yet?
Oh no, I didn't care, oh goodbecause I could have.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, I just like, I don't know, I was weird, I was
like once you wait that long.
I feel like it's like yeah, andso then I kissed this dude.
He was no so stupid, and fromthen I kind of went a little.
I'm like oh, I had one, likenow I can kiss some people.
So then you have a rule aboutthe hands tell us about that
rule.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yes, so my older sister, riley.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
She gave us a rule.
She said in high school you get10, you get 10 fingers to kiss
people.
You can only have 10 kisses inthe four years of high school.
Oh yeah, and you can't go pastthat.
You don't need to go.
And then, where did she getthat?
Not from your mom, she justmade that up because once I got
to the age of like, oh I justhave one they were each other's
first kiss that's adorable.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, I love that.
So do you feel like thinking?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
how much baggage they don't have for you.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Is that why you do?
You feel like that?
Obviously your parents, but youfeel like having an older
sister that'd be such a goodexample.
Like did that impact you?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I feel like it did.
But also Riley and her are verydifferent and I think that's
okay.
Yeah, so I think she like hadRiley has had the most impact in
my life for sure, like handsdown, yeah, and and like
multiple ways.
Um, like she's, I had a hard.
I hated high school.
I was not a high school person,had a hard upbringing
throughout high school.
I was at O'Connor, transferredto Ridge, transferred back to
O'Connor.
It was just a mess Like.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I wasn't a high school girl, I wasn't a friend
group girl.
Like I didn't like going out, Iwas insecure, like I went
through a lot and I feel likeRiley is like the reason that
like I, like I found joy in highschool and like she helped me
through all the that's likebefore school.
I remember this literally likeit was yesterday, my freshman
year.
We were sitting in the hallwaywaiting for the bell to ring and
she was with all the softballgirls and I was sitting next to
her.
I was crying because I didn'tlike my outfit.
I'm literally sitting in thehallway with my sister crying
and she was just hugging me.
She's like you look great, like, and it's like if I didn't have
my sister there, I would be inthe bathroom stall, like yeah.
So I think like Riley hasshaped me a lot into who I am

(36:54):
today.
But she is the one who came upwith the 10 finger rule and then
I had my first kiss, kissednine people and then you did
wait for real.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
So did you know like I'm gonna go to nine and wait?
No, or did you just it justhappened that way Okay.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
It was weird.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Like.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
I kissed my first I've.
Maybe there was eight and thenJackson was the ninth, or I need
to stop saying his name.
It's fine, yeah, yeah, but yeah.
So then I started datingJackson, my I started dating him
my junior year relationship andthen we just broke up two
months ago.
Um, so I don't, I didn't feelever pressured to marry my high

(37:30):
school sweetheart or marry likemarry him.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Like I thought if it's meant to be, it's going to
be, and if clearly it wasn't, soyeah, and I think that's why
I'm doing so well, and thebreakup is like like you have a
piece that it wasn't yeah, likeif we were supposed to be dating
right now, we would not bebroken up like well, and what's
cool for us who are and wetalked about this last week,
about how this next generationis so much better than what we
think it is Like you didn'tbreak up for any big reason

(37:54):
Right, you know what I mean andyou're holding strong, Like if I
, was you going through abreakup like that, I wouldn't
have been as strong as you'rebeing.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
At that age I would have been driving down to Tucson
like every day, Like you loveme, you don't know it, but you
do, you know, like I would be atrain wreck, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Or going out all the time and making not good choices
, posting Like I'd be being anidiot.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
And, like you're not doing any of those things,
you're leaning into, like yourbusiness that you started.
You're leaning into yourfitness.
You're leaning into going tochurch, diving into your.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Like a piece.
I feel like that's the biggestthing is you have a piece that
like if we were meant to betogether, we would, and we
obviously aren't.
Like I did not have that piecewith any boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
No, I was like we are meant to be.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I was like you don't know it, yet I'll kill you.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
It's getting weird with the threats.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Like I'm concerned, she holds a knife up every time.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, I'm not, I'm never gonna hurt anybody and I'm
not violent, and I am not.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
It's so weird.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Go ahead though well, I definitely have like hard
days, hard hours.
Like I remember I texted youlast week and I just like when I
write out my prayers and I justget so emotional because I feel
like throughout the processlike I I'm just doing my best to
like forgive in my heart andlike let go of what it was or
how it is now and like know thatlike the last two and a half
years, there was so much goodthat came from it and like I'm

(39:17):
not gonna sit here and dwell onwhat it could have been or what
it's not now or how things aregoing now, because it's like
there's literally nothing I cando and like me being sad over
the situation and like, yeah,I'm not like sad sometimes and
it's okay to like feel thoseemotions and I miss him and
whatever, but at the end of theday, like all I can do is move
forward and like, yeah, learnwhat's next for me and like it's
a very mature mindset, thoughit took me a long time to get to

(39:38):
learn to let go of things Ican't control.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I think that's like the biggest thing.
Even still, I still work onlike I can't control that.
So it's not that deep Reese iswho coined, it's not that deep
Reese.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
uses it in the correct context, not every five
seconds.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
It's like my whole family's done with it.
I'm like it's not that deep.
Do your homework, or don't?
It's not that deep.
And Maddie's like huh.
I'm like Get an F, it's notthat deep.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Everything is in that deep.
I girls, so I feel like fromthe outside obviously I've known
your family because of her, butI'm like not super close to
your family.
So I've always known.
Your parents are amazing andlike all the kids seem to be
really good kids making goodchoices, doing good things.
But I never would have knownthat you weren't like happy in
high school.
So that's like reallyinteresting.

(40:23):
So do you feel like now thatyou're out of high school Cause
I think that a lot of kids canrelate to that Like do you feel
like you're much happier now?
Oh, so much happier.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Right, it just wasn't your vibe.
No, I couldn't do the fakenessand I'm I'm a very real person,
like I say it how it is, myemotions are all out in my heart
, like I'm very and I just don'tlike the drama that's involved
in high school, the friendgroups, the comparing, like I
just think high school is such anegative space and you're
surrounded by nothing butnegativity.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
So did you have social media in high school?
Yeah, so do you feel like thathad any?
Did that impact one way or theother?
At all or not?
Didn't affect it at all?

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah for sure.
I think everyone's going to gothrough their like.
Everyone has their own highschool experience, so this is
just my experience, because somepeople could love it and think
it's so positive.
Well, no, I loved mine and Benhated his, so yes, Um, but I do
think that social media cause Iwould have FOMO all the time,
like fear of missing out, like Iwas always like, oh, I wasn't
invited, or oh and I didn'tthink.
I don't think until like myjunior senior year and like now.

(41:22):
I don't get FOMO at all, likeoh, great, like you do too.
But definitely like my freshmansophomore part of junior year,
like seeing people like oh dang,I don't look like that.
Oh dang, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, yes, like it gets you.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, and I think I was insecure, like I wasn't
confident, which is mind-blowingto me?
Yeah, Because you are, you likelike, like it added to the
insecurity.
Yes, yes, for sure, and I had.
I went through bad friendships.
I was put through a lot like mysophomore year during COVID.

(41:57):
I was online school, I neverwent in person.
Um, and I think if I didn'thave my family and my siblings
like that, I wouldn't, Iwouldn't have been able to be
who I am today.
Like I've always relied on mysiblings as my friends, which is
like crazy to say, but likeI've never I've had I have like
three close friends that I likeconsistently talk to and hang
out with and I wouldn't want itany other way.
Like I've just never been likea friend group girl, because

(42:20):
I've always felt uncomfortable,insecure, at the bottom of the
totem pole and I just thinkthat's silly.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Well, and I think on the outside Tana, my sister and
I talk about you guys actuallybecause you're like the older
generation for our family and,um, sometimes I feel like our
family has like a different likevibe being a part of something
like there's some times likenegativity because we're such a
big family, like, if you don'tknow, like our um, my husband's
dad and your dad's dad they'reone of 11, so there's like a big

(42:53):
like.
It's always like the whole tourof the whole tour.
Well, it's like because there's11 siblings that all got
married and had kids and stayedin phoenix.
Yeah, like usually everybodymoves away or this or that, but
so there's like 250 immediatefamily from that side.
So that's where that comes from.
And there's like, um, sometimesI feel like there's like a
confidence in being a part oflike a big family.
And then in the second part, Ithink like Kyle and his siblings

(43:16):
were one of four and they werevery confident with each other.
The same, they didn't hang outwith friends a lot, they're each
other's best friends.
They like had a lot ofconfidence from being home, so
they didn't long to be acceptedat school.
Like Kyle wasn't from a friendgroup guy either, like they
weren't like so into.
They were into sports, yeah,but they weren't into, like, the
high school.
That's why, like Maddie's, likewhat is all this, you know, and

(43:37):
I'm like, well, this is what Iwas doing, but my brother was
six years older so I didn't likefeel like I fit in at home as
much, like there wasn't muchhome.
Yeah, like I go home and noone's there, yeah, you know.
So I was like with my friendsall the time.
But I think for you, like, Ithink there's a confidence in
being a part of, like a familythat wants to spend time
together, that enjoys each other.
That I feel like sometimes,maybe, like with you, I feel

(43:59):
like you don't realize how muchthat is part of why maybe
sometimes your kids don't careabout going out all the time
because they're confident withwhere they're at.
Like your mom was very likeReese, don't, don't go out, yeah
, your mom didn't care that youwere like going out.
She's always like been proudthat you're different.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I feel like, yeah, From my perspective my mom has
never like put pressure on, likewhat we can or can't do.
Like she trusted us and likeshe knew we'd make the right
decisions and like she wouldwatch our life 360 and make sure
I'm not speeding and make sureI'm home at curfew.
But like I was always verycommunicative, like hey, we're
going here like if I did go out,like if I went to a after party
, after prom or something.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
So when you were struggling, was your?
How involved were your parents?
Were they like were worriedabout you, or were they just
like you'll figure it out?
No, not worried at all.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
No, they didn like.
I talked to my sister about it,but like they weren't, they
were like even now likethroughout my breakup, like they
don't.
They don't really ask questions, they just let me like they
don't.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
my mom doesn't ask, but they also don't act like
she's, like they're worried.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
It's never that vibe.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
It's like you'll figure it everything.
Yeah, and like I don't think Ilearned that until the last two
months, but like, literally likementality and your outlook is
everything.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah.
What's crazy, though, about youguys making good choices is
your parents, like, aren't thestrictest.
If you were to say, like Tishaasked you in the car, are your
parents strict?
And you're like no, no.
And I, when I decided to get mykids Instagram, your mom was an
inspiration.
I always tell her that, yeah,because you guys had it.

(45:37):
And her sister, jess, who I lovetoo she, we were talking about
it once and I was like cause youwatch?
You know, from afar, like wehaven't always been as close,
you know, through differentstages, you're busy, but I would
watch.
And her kids you know yoursiblings always posted such
positive things.
It wasn't a lot of selfies.
It wasn't a lot of like grouphangouts that made other people
feel bad.
It was very like Biblehighlighted Bible, bible verses,
this and that, and they're allreally good looking and in like

(45:59):
all those things, but it wasalways like a positive.
You could tell and I would askher and she's like they'll
figure it out.
Like, and Jess told me, alwaystrust them until they give you a
reason not to.
But why, like, take it away ifthey haven't even ruined it yet?
Like, if they haven't given youa reason to take it away, cause
I think sometimes that happenswith parents, like we're not
letting our kids do things, notbecause of them, but because of

(46:20):
so-and-so's kid did this, sowe're like trying to protect
them instead of like empoweringthem.
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I mean Um, my mom put she would have screen time on
our phones so we could only havelike when we were probably when
I was a freshman and sophomoreeven she had like, okay, you
have to be off your phone on 11o'clock at night, she would shut
, my phone would shut off.
She never did the phone in theroom thing because she trusted
us, but there was definitely acouple of times where she walked
in and I was on my phone pastwhen I was supposed to be and
that's why she put the screentime on Um.

(46:46):
So screen time was a big thingfor probably middle school and
high school and like time limitson social media.
Reed had it.
He just got it taken off though, because he's getting to the
age where she's like okay, like,do your thing.
If you're going to stay on yourphone until one in the morning,
you're going to be tired andrude the next morning and that's
on you Like um.
But I think social media likemy dad for example, he does not

(47:07):
like when we post selfies.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I don't either.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
So that's a big reason why I've never posted
pictures of myself Like he.
Every time I would, it would belike why are you doing this?
For who?
For what?
Like so people can comment thatyou look good.
And I would always get madbecause I'm like dad.
It's Instagram Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
I look good, everybody's doing it.
Everybody's doing it.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
yeah, yeah, I would if I was you, I would be in a
bathing suit every day, you knowso like I'm gonna cut my head
on her body and start postingnow, but I feel like it's
different now because I'm 20, solike not that he doesn't have a
say yeah, but it's time it'sdifferent you have to let.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah and I feel like that's why our social media may
have like, but you feel like himtalking to you and saying those
things like helped you, becauseit helped you evaluate.
Why am I posting?

Speaker 3 (47:48):
yeah, you know, and I'd be like nervous to post it,
because I'm like, oh, I don'twant dad to get mad, yeah, and I
think now like maybe then I waslike this is so stupid, like
why can't I post an Instagramselfie?
Like it's not that deep, it'sliterally.
But like now I'm sitting hereand I'm like, okay, like I was
17 years old, I don't need to beposting pictures of myself.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, well, and he sees it from the guy perspective
, from a dad.
Yeah, yes, yeah you don't wantthat kind of attention or to
seek that approval.
Yes, yeah, for sure so, as faras like going out, like if you
were to go to a party, whatwould they say?
Like would they let you?

Speaker 3 (48:19):
oh yeah, they wouldn't now, or like in high
school in high school oh yeah,they would let me.
They would.
Are you drinking?
Who's driving?
Like those type of questions.
But like they would, let me doit and like they wouldn't so
like are you drinking?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
did they let you?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
they were fine with you drinking um yeah as long as
I was honest about it, I onlydrank a couple times like I
wasn't crazy.
I didn't really ever.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I probably got drunk once but it wasn't a forbidden
thing, did all your siblingsdrink no reagan

Speaker 3 (48:45):
barely does.
Reagan doesn't really at alllike.
She's maybe had a couple drinks, but she's never been drunk.
Yeah, reed doesn't drink.
Clearly he's a freshman.
Riley never once drank.
Yeah, um, maybe like a coupledrinks, but she never like drank
.
I drank.
I probably got drunk once inhigh school at like after prom
when I was dating and you toldyour parents, oh yeah, my
parents knew.
Yeah, I was like honest, my momdoesn't like to hear it though,

(49:06):
so she'll like kind of ask, butthen she's like okay, like I
don't like okay, but it's coolthat you feel safe to go to her
because I'd be scared to hide itLike I just I would feel out of
respect?
Yes, like I would just feel badfor hiding it, and I feel like I
know they're not going to getmad.
Like the worst thing, my, whathappened?
Like she gets like like justyeah, and she thinks because she

(49:29):
takes one drink of beer andshe's like drunk, drunk, and so
she's like like what happened?
Like how much did you drink?
Like actually, I don't want toknow, I don't want to know.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Like she's like very, just, like innocent in that
sense, um, but yeah, I wasalways honest with them and they
didn't care like they weregoing to yell at you.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
No, I mean, like sometimes I would be like, well,
like, maybe I'll keep thatdetail out, but like it's my mom
.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Which is normal.
Which is normal?
Yes, I think that's normal.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Like as my mom, you don't need to know every detail
of the night.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Oh, totally so.
I think also your parents setgood examples.
They're not big drinkers, no,they don't.
So I think it's like somethingthat's not forbidden, but not
also a thing that you thoughtwas so cool.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
It's not like, oh, we party every weekend.
Yeah, so it's like an examplething.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yes, how did they help you instill your faith?
Like you guys all have verystrong faith and values.
Yeah, Someone that's constantlylike you know, like little
things, like should they go toFCA?
Do I make them?
Do they go on their own?
Like those are things I'm like,do I push this now or do I let
them want to on their own?
You know, and like I know, youguys are all pretty good about

(50:37):
going at church.
I see you, even if you go byyourself.
Yeah, Was that something theypushed or was it just like
normal at home, where justalways, always, like I know they
set good examples because theyhave seen them there a lot on
Saturday nights, but I also knowyou guys were in sports yeah, I
think growing up we always wentand then when we got busy, like
it was harder to go, but theystill.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
We still tried our best to go to Saturday nights as
a family.
And then once we got to highschool Riley was a big part of
that like, really, yeah, rileywas like pushed my parents to
get to church, like hey, we'regoing to church tonight.
Like I think Riley, like, onceshe got to high school and she
made the decision and like, yeah, she did it on her own, I think
then she was a big part to likekeep us going to church, strong

(51:17):
in our faith.
All the things like my mom wewould do before elementary
school.
We would read the devotional ofthe day.
Like we had like a littlewhat's it prayers calling that
book and she would read it to usevery morning, whether it was
on the way to school or at home.
Like she would always read thelike daily devotional and that
was like something we did.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Me too.
But then that like fell offeventually with time.
But I know that I think it waslike throughout elementary she
would read it is part of ourmorning and then once Riley got
to high school, I think she wasa big part of like keeping that
like okay, we're going to church, we're reading our Bible.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
And that's just crazy , because she even gave you the
10 finger, like your mom, didn'ttell you anything about how
many people you should kiss.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
It's crazy how much a sibling can affect the family.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Yeah, I'm like's it goes unsaid, like they don't.
They don't talk about theirfaith and they're not in their
Bible every single day, likehighlighting, and like Reese,
look at what I'm reading.
Like I think it's very.
I see God through them but theydon't even know that.
Like it's like how they treateach other, how they talk to
each other or how my mom is likemy mom is like.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
My mom is a self like she's a saint.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Yeah, she's literally like innocent and selfless and
like in all areas of life.
Yes and I think just likeseeing how my mom is is like
seeing her faith, if that makessense.
I love that without her.
It's not her pushing it downyour throat.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
It's through like action, yeah, or not even what
she's saying, it's just how sheis.
Yeah, wow, I'm all.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Like she's just we got to go.
No, I love that, though,because I think sometimes we put
pressure on ourselves to likedo all these extra things, but
we don't realize just by beingthe best we can be, our kids
will take some of that on, youknow.
And then it's so cool thatRiley had that much of an impact
.
I know Maddie is so all of asudden, I feel like maybe you

(53:13):
even talked to her about this,because since you've been around
, it's been more yeah, so likealmost maybe you're impacting
Maddie, like that.
But she's all of a suddenreading her Bible.
Yeah, and now she's like andyou're not reading your Bible.
I'm like, oh crap, now I got toread my Bible she's like, and
you and dad aren't reading yourBible and I am every day and I
can tell the difference.
And I'm like what the?
But like it's like weird.
I've never even told her to dothat, like I don't you know.

(53:34):
And it's like now she'sstarting to push me and she's
like I went to church today andyou guys, didn't.
Yeah, so, like I, we have tolike step it up.
But what I also love about yourfamily is you are a sports
family.
All of your kids are veryinvolved in club and and all

(53:55):
different types of sports and soI know, like when it came to
like family dinners and stuff Iknow I've talked to Ryan about
this her mom, um, and I've beenlike Ryan, what do we do?
Cause I'm putting pressure.
She's like, yeah, and we getMcDonald's and we don't have
family dinner a lot, becausefour kids are five places.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
It's impossible, yeah , yeah.
Like it was like my mom wouldprep some dinner and eat it when
you can take it to go.
Like if she would always pick,read up from one practice and go
to a different one and shewould just bring him and like in
foil on a little plate, likebring him dinner.
Or like if I'm going from A toB, then it's like hey, then it's
like hey, pick yourselfsomething on the, pick yourself
up something on the way.
Like we never did really havefamily dinners.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Like yeah, but you're such a tight-knit family, I
think sometimes we think ifwe're not doing these A, B and C
, that we're messing up and it'slike it's not that deep, it's
not See how.
It's like it's fair.
No, that one was fair.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
It was fair oh my God .

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Oh, but it's true.
No, yeah, like I'm analyzingthe crap out of that and it's
not that deep.
That one works.
Yeah, like it's not.
I feel like, in a way, like youcan also take pressure off of
our ourselves as parents on likejust being the best we can be
instead of making sure we'redoing all these things like the
Easter egg hunt and the this andthe that.
You know, like that stuff isn'twhat's going to stick with them

(55:04):
as much as just like who we are.
Yeah, you know, and your mom isvery loving.
Like she's the type that when Iwas first in the family, I went
on bed rest with Maddie.
I barely knew her and she wouldcome by like once a week and
bring me breakfast and alwaysmade me feel included, always
made me feel loved.
But again, she's not like anoutward, like preacher
personality, but you feel Godwhen you're around her.
Like you're like you are likeJesus and you want to like hang

(55:28):
out with her.
Yes, and she's drop-deadgorgeous.
Oh yeah, so gorgeous.
Such a like a good person.
But I remember, even as a youngmom, like she wasn't stressed
about bedtimes and she wasn'tstressed about all these things.
She was just loving her kidsno-transcript home mom.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
She didn't work while we were younger, until we got
into high schools, when she waslike, okay, I need to do
something.
But she like, literally she wasjust loved being a mom and she
loved being at home.
She loved doing all the things,like the laundry, the, the
making the lunches Like shestill makes Rita Reagan's lunch
every day, every night, like shemakes.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
so it's like I think she reads a freshman Reagan's a
senior.
That's awesome yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
She still does her lunches, she does everything for
read because he's a boy and isso cranky and rude in the
mornings.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I love that, though, because sometimes too, I'm like
my kids should you know, wealways shit ourselves Like maybe
they should make their ownlunch because I made them do it
for a while.
Yeah, it's very helpful.
I like making the lunch, andlike now that I don't see them
much, I'm like this is one thingI can do for them that like
helps them.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
But like you always go back and forth right, like I
should make them, yeah, no,Sometimes she like we were just
gone in Old Miss watching Rileyand she got mad because she came
home and the laundry bucket wasoverfilling and she's like
Reagan and Reed, like could havestarted a load of laundry while
I was gone.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Just to help.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
And then my aunt was actually on the phone with her
when she was saying this.
She's like gosh, I have eightloads of laundry to do because
Reagan and Reed didn't start one.
Like talking to my aunt dotheir laundry, like why does it
matter?
Like you usually do it.
And she's like, yeah, you'reright, it's not that like it
doesn't matter, it's not thatdeep like it's just, we'll just
title every episode.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
It's not that deep though we beat ourselves up
about so much.
All of us like we all do it,especially as women.
That's what I'm saying.
We analyze everything.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
It's all about mentality, yeah I feel like I
don't beat myself up that much.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Well, I'm not honest.
I think we're perfect, but no,but I'm saying I think you do,
though, about certain things,yeah, and honestly.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I'm feeling very convicted right now about how
like sweet and nice her mom is.
Oh my gosh, because I'm kind oflike not that nice of a mom.
No, that be like that.
They have to mind, they have todo that and it's not that vibe

(57:54):
when you're around them.
Yeah, but they do not want todisappoint their mom.
But it's just not my likenature to be like so hot like
I'm more like hi honey, how'syour day?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
like I don't think Ryan was like suffocating her
kids that's so horrible.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
I would never do that .
I just put my aneurysm on tomake him be quiet.
No, but I don't think thatone's that yeah.
Yeah, that one's not that deep.
No, but I mean like I feel likeI could be more loving and
patient.
I do feel like I am short, butI think, maybe because I work
now, I do feel like I used to bemore loving and patient.
I'm maybe now a little bit moreshort-fused, yeah, and like

(58:28):
let's go, and like I'm.
I feel like I'm always yellingor like always, like you know,
doing something, like alwayslike okay, what do we do it?
like you know, I'm alwaysyelling about like a grade or
your grade or your your late orthat, I don't know.
I'm like I'm not that like nicenow.
I'm like, oh, I gotta be nicer.
I'm like I'm not that like niceNow.
I'm like, oh, I got to be nicer.

(58:48):
I'm feeling horrible.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
I feel like that's everyone Like I could say the
same thing, I'm so unpatient,I'm easier, yeah, and I feel
like my biggest conviction fromthis is like the way I talk to
Kyle Cause, like I'm pretty goodwith the kids, but I like he
should be the one.
I'm sweeter to Ben, yeah, and Ifeel like she's very sweet to
Ronnie, even if Ronnie's stilllike he's a lot like Kyle, like

(59:10):
they're still the same family.
And I watch the way Ryan iswith him.
She's like, yeah, ronnie justsaid no, we're not doing it.
And she's like we're not doingit and I'm like what?

Speaker 2 (59:17):
the hell.
We're not.
You know, kyle shut up.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Yeah was amazing.
Yeah, because we were.
We're at our time right now,reese, and we're just getting
started.
I know we're just thanks forcoming.
We'll add her on again to becontinued with Reese Fultor.
No pictures though, yeah, butyeah with your stand-up, yeah
her legs.
We gotta talk about what Reeseeats do, because she's something
else I know next time.
all right, have a good week.
Have a good week.
Welcome to jerking around apodcast that makes you feel

(59:45):
better about yourself, becausewe're a mess just like you, and
Crystal makes fun of me thewhole time and it's great and
it's real.