December 23, 2024 • 32 mins
Ever wondered if Britney Spears is really free, or if there's a clone conspiracy brewing? Join us for some playful banter on "Jerking Around," where we tackle everything from underwear organization to Bible study, and yes, those wild clone theories about Britney. Kristen Cavallari's podcast revelation about Britney's bizarre interaction with her publicist raises some eyebrows and provides plenty of laughs. Plus, we recount our night out at a Giggly Squad event, which had us reflecting on social media's impact and savoring the joys of espresso martinis, all while embracing the chaos of not taking life too seriously.
Our journey down memory lane whisks us back to high school and college, where our antics—like making our coach laugh to delay practice—taught us some valuable life lessons. Inspired by our Christian faith, we share the "Love Everybody" motto, which led to a heartwarming success story of a former employee. Through humorous reminiscences about boyfriends and the trials of post-college life, we reveal how growing older has sharpened our tolerance, yet reinforced our commitment to loving everyone, even when it's tough.
Navigating the complexities of college and relationships is no easy feat, and we explore this confusing time with candor, humor, and a dash of frustration. College may be expensive, but it’s the bridge from adolescence to adulthood, complete with its own set of challenges and growth opportunities. Personal stories about our post-college escapades, including misadventures in singles Bible study groups and the comedic potential of a future show, highlight the importance of authenticity and self-respect. And remember, you don’t have to be anyone’s doormat—unless, of course, you’re being a "cool girl" for comedic effect in our planned comedy show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you, and Crystal makes fun of meall the time and it's great and
it's real.
Welcome to Jerking AroundTisha's mute, but today we're
(00:27):
talking about oh, we'rerecording.
Yes, this is the intro oh,perfect, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome to Jerking Around.
Today I'm going to talk.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, you talked a lot today, did I, and I didn't
interrupt you.
I'm proud of you.
Yeah, today we're talking aboutnot being a doormat, don't be a
schmuck, underwear in thedrawer, bible study and loving
everyone.
It's tisha's finally gonnastart.
I'm gonna start today speakingof let's talk about kristen
cavalieri what you just told metoday on the way here.
So you guys know, weeks ago wetalked about um.
She has a podcast.
(00:55):
Let's be honest we joke aboutit all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, and she said that she thought kanye was a
clone and she thought britneywas a clone.
And then today on her podcastshe released that she said
Brittany called her, which I'mlike.
No text.
First she called, oh, shecalled.
Her publicist called.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, so not Brittany .
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But like that's crazy .
Speaker 1 (01:13):
They want to shut her up.
Who's?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
going to be calling us Chrissy Teigen.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
No, no, I don't think we'll get to that status.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We don't want to be famous, not like anyone's asking
us to be famous.
We, no.
I don't even want to be rich.
I do.
I know it's so weird again thethings you say out loud, let's
edit.
I just want to have a like, beable to still travel.
Yeah, you know, I don't careabout being rich, I just care
that I can do the things I wantto do.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I love that for you.
Which isn't rich yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You still want to be rich.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I do.
I love that for you though.
So I love that for you and I'mhappy for you.
Go ahead.
So, anyways, the person reachesout and says Brittany wants to
talk to you.
So she gets on a text withBrittany and her publicist and
Kristen.
A text is so weird and hermanager and I guess I only read
(02:11):
the recap I haven't listened tothe podcast yet because it just
came out this morning but shebasically was saying that
Brittany was texting on theresaying like I want to get
together basically to prove shewasn't a clone, because she had
said she was a clone.
So then Kristen sent her a textseparately.
Should I just play the clip?
Oh, yeah, here, but I don'tthink it has all of it on there.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But yeah, play the clip, okay anytime my publicist
calls me, by the way, I'm likewhat the fuck?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
who died what?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
happened like I can't , my heart can't take it, and he
goes guess who wants your phonenumber.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And I went who?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Brittany fucking?
Oh, bad word we're about tobleep that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Ok, go ahead, so anyways.
So she's on a text with thefour of them and Brittany's
acting like a non-clone, sayinglet's get together.
So then cut, they end that chat.
Then Kristen sends her a directtext message and says hey,
let's get together.
I'm not in LA a lot, but when Iam I would love to see you.
Brittany never responds.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's so weird.
So weird, I know, but like canthey just text from her phone?
But they didn't want her to gettogether without the publicist.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But she was like even more.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm thinking that's a clone.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, it's so bad something's going on.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
She's not allowed out of the house like it's gotta be
whacked or something sad.
I know it's so sad.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Anyways, speaking, of never mind, that's naughty what
I was gonna say I was talkingabout people that aren't allowed
out of the house, and there'sthose influencers we follow, and
I feel like they're not allowedout of the house too, and and
they're just normal.
It's weird, yeah, okay, movingon.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Okay, I forget.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We were going to talk about that cloning, there was
something else.
Oh, we went to Giggly Squadlast week.
Yeah, we went to Giggly Squadon Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It was really good.
I don't really listen to GigglySquad.
You don't listen to anything.
I don't listen our podcast forhalf a half, I know and then you
had 50 edits and it's just likeyou're not allowed to listen,
I'm all.
And then I do it, I'm all, I'mall, I'm all.
It's weird.
Well, I don't think anyonelikes their own voice.
Well, no, I'm gonna focus onnot saying I'm all.
And then you just said it 10times.
(04:16):
Well, after now, starting now.
You don't used to do thatSilent game, starting now,
regina.
No, we need our food out now.
Regina.
Our friend yelled at the waiteron Saturday and it was so funny
.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
She told him excuse me, we need our food out now and
we're like sorry, she's justangry.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I just have a thing where it's really hard for me to
be rude to servers, even ifthey're doing the worst job
possible, because I was a server.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, even if they're doing the worst job possible
because I was a server.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, and I still give her 20% tip.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Good job, because I just can't Moving on Giggly
Squad.
Yeah, so we went and we weresuper excited Tisha and I
thought it was foreshadowing.
Well, we both don't drink a lotand we had a martini, espresso
martini.
They're so good, they werereally good that night and we
were a little so then my I'm soglad social media wasn't around
(05:05):
in college.
I would have posted the worstthings, oh, the worst.
Like I feel bad for thatgeneration because I, like would
call guys, like sometimes 10times, and I'd be like, hey, you
want me to come over?
Yeah, they didn't, they did notwant me to come over and I kept
calling, thinking they werescared.
Yeah, it's so stupid?
(05:26):
Drunk calling, calling, drunktexting.
Oh so I might have buzz postedthat um foreshadowing for
jerking around us at gigglysquad, but it was really good.
I'm obsessed with page de sorbo.
I feel like everybody knowsthat.
I feel like I talk about thatall the time.
Yeah, she's probably my favoriteit's her and hannah, and I
don't love hannah on gigglysquad, but saturday night I
loved hannah, like even a littlemore than page, which I really
love to swear but I just thinkshe does it right.
She just gives us a hint of herlife, just enough that you're
(05:48):
so dang curious.
And I feel like she handlesbecause I'm obsessed with Summer
House and I'm obsessed withSouthern Charm two of the best
shows ever and like she alwayshandles things like so classy
but like opinionated, like she'salways who she is but she also
is like classy and she's like agirl's girl and like she can
wear anything and it looks good.
(06:09):
I mean, she could have threeroses on her neck.
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You always say I'm like Paige, but I don't feel
like if Paige wore the shirt youwould make fun of her.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I feel like you'd be like I love that, Not because
she's just more of a.
She's a girly.
She dresses very girly.
I'm a more casual.
She's very dressed up.
Yes, she's always like.
It's an outfit.
I feel like skirts a lot.
It's very more dressed up Way.
Dressed up, yeah.
So I don't feel like I'd seeher in a t-shirt ever.
She's always a crop, and what Ilike about her is she eats
(06:42):
normal food.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You a crop right, and what?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I like about her is she eats normal food you know
those people like she's nevertalking about dieting, she's
never worried about her body.
But they said at the show.
She doesn't eat carbs oh really, yeah, they did really, because
I was thinking should I not eatcarbs?
No, she eats carbs totally onthe show.
Oh yeah, bagel sandwiches shesaid at the ghillies one really
yeah and I, because I thought tomyself well, I'm not, there
goes the carbs no, she has lostweight recently, though I
thought she was doing the shotReally.
So I wonder if she stoppedeating carbs and she started
working out and she never usedto work out.
But you know what's weird aboutthat?
(07:11):
She was more appealing to mebefore with, like the body.
There's those people thatyou're like they're normal.
I feel like we're all sointrigued with being like normal
, like everybody who looks gooddoes something.
But she seemed like so, likehave a little of this but have a
little of that, right, but likenot obsess over it.
But then she started doing likebar classes and she started.
So I wonder if she stoppedeating carbs.
(07:32):
Hmm, but it was interesting.
At the show she was a littlebit more.
She's talked about her anxietybattle recently before the shows
and so she started taking betablockers and I felt like she was
weirdly like calm for herduring the show.
I didn't have anything tocompare to cause I haven't seen
that podcast and you don'tlisten yet or watch the TV shows
.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
But you said you're the Hannah, and then I loved
Hannah, so I was like well, thatmakes sense, cause I love you.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So I was, but I really loved Hannah Saturday
night too, which is weird, Causeusually I'm like shut up.
Oh, I loved Hannah the wholetime.
Yeah, she was awesome.
I feel like she was morecomfortable in that setting than
maybe on the show, yeah,Anyways.
So that was fun.
We went with our friends and itwas super fun, but we think we
could totally do that.
Did you see those people?
I sent you Mom so hard?
Yeah, Does anybody watch that?
No, they had to have a show too.
(08:17):
They had a show here.
So one day, because Tisha usedto want to be a comedian, you
told this last time, I know, butdid you tell about when you did
the single show?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
When I did the stand-up at church.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yes, tell them about it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I honestly don't even remember, because I think I
blacked out, because I think itwas so bad.
I think it was one of thosetraumatic experiences that if I
went and did the EDM therapy orwhatever it's called, and
they're tapping and they're likego back to like wait, where was
it at that would come.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Where was it at, though?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It was at CCV and it was church.
Yeah, we there used to be likea very big couples or singles
ministry.
We were a part of it and theyhad like a singles night and
then they thought we were funny.
Which is so crazy, yeah, whichis so crazy.
Yeah, and then you were gonebecause you had to go out of
town or something, yeah, and sothey were like you just do it,
but they wanted both of usoriginally, which I feel like
(09:09):
I'm better with you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I'm not good by myself we yeah, because we used
to you should have came with meto LA.
I'm all no, so well, why theyliked us at that ministry.
Let's tell this story.
It's been a while.
Yeah, um, we were in a singles,so no, we are.
So it's here.
In high school, we would try tostall practice on Saturdays and
(09:31):
they'd tell us to stand up andstart telling our coach stories.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
We'd all stretch.
We'd get in a big in highschool cheer.
We'd all get in a big circleand stretch for like the first
10 minutes of practice.
And so Crystal and I wouldstart like messing with each
other, messing, bantering backand forth, being really funny,
just to because we could makeour coach laugh.
Yeah, and then it would likedelay practice getting started
like, sometimes like an hour oh.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I know it was so funny, but um, so then in
college we were let's just bereal, let's be honest.
We might change your name whenyou want me to be real, because
you never are.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You never are.
You'll edit your stories and Iwant you to tell the truth.
If you want to be real, then goon Kristen's show and be real,
because you never are.
You never are.
You'll edit your stories and Iwant you to tell the truth.
If you want to be real, then goon kristen's show and be real
you know, this is jerking aroundwhen we lie no so we were.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
We were single and ready to mingle.
And well, tisha and I did thisthing and it was so great, I
really want to do it.
We talked about it before.
We did this thing called loveeverybody and it was like we
were loving everybody because wewere like, as Christians, we're
supposed to just love everybody.
But what we were we were lovinglike bad boyfriends too.
But I still support it.
Yeah, I literally, I literallydo.
(10:35):
I see one of my exes and I'vetalked about him on here and I
feel like I've talked about him.
Maybe not the best light, butif I could change that now I
follow, I think, all my exes onsocial media.
Kyle's super.
My husband is like, eh, andit's so cool, cause a lot of
them are Christian now andthat's because you loved him.
Yes, I do, I see it's about mereally.
(10:57):
Yeah, no, but I think that,like you plant a seed right,
that's what they tell you youplant a seed and you never know
when the seed's going to grow,and so I always believe that
showing certain people God'slove, like by loving them in
spite of themselves, they mighthave found God Right Eventually.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
But I do have a story about that time.
Okay, so I recently was helpinga client buy a house with a
builder and this was during myLove Everybody, and I was during
my love everybody and I wasvery motivational.
It was when I worked at Coach.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And I was a manager at Coach and it was during the
love everybody time.
The love everybody and I wasloving on my employees.
I wish we could just we'regoing to try again, I know.
So I hired this guy and we Ilike just was normal to him, but
(11:48):
apparently I was like youweren't normal, you were loving
everybody.
Yeah, every day was like let'sinspire him, right.
It was like our goal was toinspire and love and bring
people to Jesus and it was likeI was a way better person than I
am now me too, and so, anyways,this was literally 25 years ago
so, or 20 years ago so crazy.
I was helping a client buy a newbuild with a company, um, and
there was an issue with thehouse, so it got escalated up to
corporate and I was emailingback and forth with the agent a
(12:10):
lot and then I had to get alittle crazy and then she was
like we weren't hearing back andI was always very nice to her,
and so she was telling herfriend who's like really high up
at the company and she was like, yeah, this agent is like great
, she's been great.
And then he was like, yeah,this agent is is like great,
she's been great.
And then he was like I know her, she gave me this opportunity
(12:30):
at coach and believed in me insales, and now he's like really
high up, it's so cool, and soshe called me to tell me and
she's like he just like you madesuch an impact on his life and
I was like I'm a what's his nameagain?
No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Hopefully he doesn't listen.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, I wasn't, but I was.
I couldn't believe it Cause Iknow if someone would have asked
me if I impacted anybody duringthat time, I'd be like no way
what we did during that time.
To that I want to bring backthe boyfriends, though that was
just being an idiot.
I'm always sleeping witheverybody he loved.
I'm going to love him.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I did love him anyways.
No, let's talk about that.
Hold on Two things.
One thing we did during thistime let's remember we didn't
get offended.
No, and church was just aboutthat.
Don't be easily offended, I'mnot easily offended.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So I don't think I am .
You think I'm easily offended.
I think you're easily done withpeople.
Yeah, but I'm not offended.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You're done with them so easily, it's the same.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's different.
I think it's so different.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
No, you need to be loving them.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I'm like I'm easily.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, you're not easilyoffended, you're not sensitive.
No, I'm not sensitive.
If they weren't our cup of tea,we loved them anyways.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
They were maybe annoying, we loved them anyways.
More tolerant maybe.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
No, loving, it wasn't like we ignored them.
You ignore so many people now Ido.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, I think it's getting older.
You have like less, but likewhat if you would have ignored
him?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I know I don't think he did anything to piss me off,
though I'm saying Tolerant,tolerant, you're not very
tolerant, but we loved everyone,no matter how they treated us,
no matter if they were rude tous, no matter if they, but
that's like what Jesus commandsus to do, so I got to get back
to that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's what I'm saying.
I know I'm working on it.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh gosh, it's all about the three, so we're going
to go back to it.
Yeah, we're going to go back toit.
Everyone saw good in everyone,even when they showed us they're
bad, correct, and what else didwe do?
We were like we're listening togod's plan for our day.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
We'd be like it's not about us today, it's about him,
like if something derailed, I'dbe like this is where god wants
me to be.
It was a very like peaceful.
I had a lot of inner peace.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It was like the probably the most peaceful time
in my life, right, but it washard because we were single and
lonely.
So, oh yeah, the single, that'swhat we were talking about.
We were single, and so ourboyfriends.
So one of my ex-boyfriends Iloved him.
He was like so we went to aformal for sorority and when you
go to a formal it's like promor homecoming, and we went and
we danced on the bar all night.
We had the best time, andusually guys like me because I
(14:53):
fun, but then they like get allshy and want to be alone with me
all the time and never go doanything fun.
So it's like always a weirdthing, right.
So when he danced all night andlike we went out all night with
Jed and Ryan, our best friends,it was like I was hooked yeah so
then I was hooked for a lot ofreasons, really really good
looking, and I always liked guyswith muscles, like I was really
(15:15):
into guys with, like, a lot ofmuscles, big muscles.
Oh, I every guy had muscles andI.
And then I dated someone thathasn't worked out in 10 years
but I love muscles.
You know who I'm talking about,right, yeah, yeah, so everybody
loved him.
It's totally like like uh-huh,and everybody loved him.
So you know how you thinkyou're going to tame the one.
(15:36):
Yeah, and he was like wild andlike all the things were just
really great, you know.
And so he, I moved back toPhoenix.
So we dated, talked, stupidTalked meaning he's talking to
me and other girls and I'mpretending he's only talking to
me.
So we talked for a while andthen I moved back to Phoenix.
(15:57):
So when I would come back up wewould hang out.
And I remember one time Iopened his drawers and there's
all these.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Which so concerning on so many levels.
Is he a serial killer who keepsunderwear of?
Like?
If I found that I'd be like?
I'd be like it's so weird, sos911.
Like he's going to kill me andtake my underwear?
Like it's weird.
It's so concerning.
Like are they trophies?
Like was there a lock of hairor a finger?
You know, it's so concerning Iwas concerned but I like talked
(16:27):
myself out of it, but you wereloving him.
I love people, even if they'reserial killers like what are
these?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
yeah, nothing, he's like, it's nothing, it's just
they left him here.
They're all different colorsand all different.
Oh my gosh, I should have ran.
I should have ran, called thecops no, and I maybe and I like
like a necklace talking to himkillers keep like a piece of
(16:55):
jewelry.
it's so scary, so bad.
And he didn't even like actlike it was anything.
He was like, yeah, they lefthim here and I was like, you
know, when you, it's sorelatable to everything in life.
But like I didn't want to makewaves because I didn't want him
to stop talking to me.
Yeah, so I was like, well, I'lljust love him.
And it was so bad.
And so he's like, yeah, theyleft him.
(17:16):
Clearly, like while we were,they left him there and I just
ignored it and I kept loving himand he kept jerking me.
But and I was like I'm going toshow him God and I'm just going
to keep loving him and keeploving him.
Literally, he did become myboyfriend eventually, right, and
he like said I love you.
It turned into like what Ithought it could be Right, but
(17:36):
what was weird is, when it did,I didn't like him anymore, right
, you know how that happens Likeit's the ungettable get, and he
got like way more.
He was very, very smart and hehad very big aspirations.
I just felt like I could nevermeasure up and so it wasn't like
.
That's why I stopped liking him.
It just like when you get allof somebody.
Finally you can see if yourrelationship really works.
But we ended on like good termsand we stayed very close.
(17:57):
He ended up becoming aChristian Like I don't regret
that ever, but now with our kidslike I don't want Maddie to
love them anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, you know, it's hard, maddie's my daughter Well,
and I don't think that likeit's a fine line of loving.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You even say that for you, because sometimes you're I
know.
But am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, you're not, because remember in Bible study
it says turn the other cheek ifsomeone does wrongdoing to you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But in counseling they said Jesus wasn't a schmuck
either.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, I think that.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Because that's where I get confused.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Well, it's like your kids.
I'm loving my kids, but I'mstill going to have Discipline,
discipline.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Or like a standard how you're going to act.
Yeah, Like I love Ben, but ifhe's cheating on me or beating
me, I'm not loving him.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm going to have a boundary, so I think it's like
there's got to be some yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That's what was hard when we were so young and naive
we didn't care.
But like I don't regret any ofthat, no, but so we still loving
everyone.
But we were going out likepartying on the weekend.
We wanted to find nice guys,yeah.
So we were going to the barsand we're, because once you're
like in your job, it's boring.
That's why I do.
(19:05):
I'm kind of on the fence aboutcollege, Cause I do think it's
like all the things, yes.
I wasn't going to say it to tryto keep a few listeners.
They're gone from the electionfraud, but I do agree and I
don't use my degree, Kyle, myhusband doesn't use his degree.
It's expensive.
I was in debt for years becauseof college.
But what I love about college,even what you know, we had
(19:26):
different college experiences.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
We both said this yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
But we grew in those four years.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's like a trial for adulthood.
You're not at home in highschool, living with your parents
, but you're not fullyresponsible yet.
You're still kind of being akid, yeah.
But you can like.
It buys you time it does.
And I do think you're soundeveloped still at that age
your brain, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Decision-making.
Is that why you got those?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Exactly A hundred percent.
So I think it's good to not befully thrown into working.
I agree, starting a family,cause you're still figuring
things out, yeah, so it's kindof like high school part two
it's like.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It is like high school part two, you know Then
when you're done with collegeprobably one of my crazier times
, I would say, was when we weredone with college.
I had a house with some friends, right, you ended up living
with me.
Everybody kind of a bunch ofpeople lived with me.
We would have like gatherings,and then we would go out to the
bars because that's whateverybody did, right, and so we
would go out and I mean therewas some really fun nights, but
(20:22):
stupid nights too, and so wewould go.
Tisha and I decided to join asingles Bible study to try to
meet the right guy, right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Cause we were meeting jerks at the bar.
I'm like, yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm all so anyways.
So our Bible study if you guyshave ever done a Bible study or
a small group, we would go andthey would be like a Christian
off.
It would be like I've prayedfive times today and and we're
all singles.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It was very like every no one was real.
It was very surface, very likeone, upy the girl with her womb.
I prayed all the time and I'mthinking I'm not praying all the
time.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So so one day we're watching, we had a Superbowl
party, like a week before theincident.
We had a Superbowl party and,um, they kind of alluded that
Janet Jackson had fake boobs andit was like this negative.
Remember when?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Justin Timberlake pulled her thing down and showed
her boob with like a pasty.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, and so they were mad.
She had fake boobs or something, right?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They were mad about that and the fake boobs.
Yeah they were exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
They were bashing because she had fake boobs and
Tisha had fake boobs at the time.
I didn't, I know.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The tables have turned.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So we were hanging out with them.
So then Tisha was kind ofannoyed at them, like you jerks.
So then we were hanging outwith them and Tisha told them
that I'm getting a, a car goingto do like the gifts for like
the angel tree.
Yeah, and he's just like youguys, crystal has to tell you
something.
And these girls are squeaky.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Wheel clean is what we understand.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Things to ruffle their feathers, you know so she
said you guys, crystal's reallynervous that you're gonna judge
her.
She's getting a boob job andshe's worried that you're gonna
judge her this and that.
And they're like, and I waslike no, I'm not.
She's like, see, she doesn'twant to tell you.
And I was like no, really,she's like Crystal, it's fine, I
got this.
And they were not judgmental,they were they were like we love
you.
She's like well, she knows, yougot mad about Janet Jackson, so
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she doesn't want.
And they really thought I wasgetting a boob job.
So then we go back to Bible.
You woke up and it was allbattered.
That never happened and anyways, so we're sitting there and
what happened?
What triggered?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
you?
I don't remember, but somethinghappened in Bible study.
No one was being real, everyonewas being judgmental and we
needed help.
Yeah, we did and we were likewe were partying.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
We needed like help.
We didn't want to talk aboutthe dumb things.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, like surface, and we were wanting like real
connection and like people to bereal and we weren't being
perfect, so for them to be soperfect, it was just very like
off-putting.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We felt alone, like we weren't worthy.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I yelled at them.
I don't remember.
So all of a sudden we're justsitting there.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
So she stands up.
It's like in a gathering likethis, like you're sitting,
indian style, the guys havetheir shoes off, you know, yeah,
and she stands up, which islike whoa, and she's like and
you know what?
I'm done with this?
You were like my mom's drunk.
We're drunk every weekend andI'm done faking it and I have
fake boobs and I'm sick of allof you.
And so why don't you all justkeep reading your Bibles?
(23:17):
I'm leaving.
She slams the door.
Let's go, crystal.
Yeah, and she's my ride.
And I get up and I'm like thankyou, your house is beautiful.
We'll see you guys next week.
Thank you again.
And like I leave.
And I was like Tisha, we can'tleave like this.
And so she's like I'm done withthem.
It's a waste of time again.
(23:42):
They're all we have.
Otherwise we'll be drunk more.
Yeah, so we go back in.
Oh, we went back.
That's when it how it happened.
I didn't remember if it was thenext time.
No, I think we went back in.
Yeah, everybody starts tellingthese stories.
They're all.
You guys are right, I'm a drunkand we're like what?
it's like I have a child, likean illegitimate child and then
it was like, oh so we go back in, everybody starts talking.
One of them was struggling withdrinking, like us, right.
Another one had a child that hewas feeling so guilty.
(24:03):
They have no relationship,right.
It was the coolest thing.
We became so close with thesepeople.
I miss that.
Yeah, we were best friends.
Our one friend who had theillegitimate child he ended up
rekindling with her.
Yeah, he got married.
We we're at his wedding.
Like we were best friends.
It's when you did the comedything, cause they went that
night to support you.
But we were doing like God'splan, like we were living like
(24:26):
so differently back then.
It was like the coolest thingand we weren't perfect but we
were just loving and I thinkthat was so like inspiring yeah.
So we need to get back to that.
I'm going to get back there,anyways, but with our kids and
dating cause I, my oldest, is inhigh school now and she's doing
the talking that we've beentalking about, and so question
(24:46):
for our listeners, our jerkieshow long is too long?
Like, how much talking is toolong?
Like my ex with the underwear,it was clearly too long.
Like he they're going to lockit in Crap or get off the pot,
yeah or not?
So, like so many of mycheerleaders do this talking
thing.
Some of them talk for a shortamount of time, then they're in
(25:07):
a relationship.
Others are talking for years.
I think talking for years isweird.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think it's just like letting him have his cake
and eat it too, right.
He's basically getting all thegreat things about being in a
relationship, the check-in everyday, text, good morning, good,
blah, blah but then there's nocommitment level.
Yeah, so that's again where Ifeel like there should be a
commitment level if you'regetting all the good things
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I agree, it's like a trade-off, I agree, but I don't
want to be too crazy and too Iwould say so during our single
days.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
you don't want to jump in in a day, but I think a
month month and a half.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
We were just telling this story too.
You're not going to be real onthat, but we were talking about
when we both met our husbands.
I did the drinking and then Ilearned finally, like I'm
getting meeting guys at bars,they're losers.
Right, we're not starting ourrelationship on the right foot.
I'm putting up with way toomuch, you know, trying to be the
cool girl and I just talked tomy daughter about this too Right
, cool girl gets you nowhere.
(25:59):
No, cool girl gets you nowhere.
No, I've had friends that werecool girls and it didn't work
out in their favor.
Like a guy wants a girl that'sgoing to make him work.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Right, I truly believe that I'll tell the story
.
So when Ben and I we went on adate, kyle and Crystal set us up
.
I knew him from high school, myhusband, but Crystal and I are
best friends, her husband andKyle.
Her husband, kyle and myhusband played baseball in
college.
They've been friends forever,so they were friends, and then
her and I are friends.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So can we say, though Kyle was supposed to be in
Ben's wedding to his ex fiance.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So we were like super close with Ben and his fiance,
who he met in college, so anyway.
So they had just broke it uplike really really recently,
like five minutes before,remember you sparked?
Yeah, we did spark.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
When they were still together yeah, we had a poker
night for Kyle, because we werewas it Maddie?
Yeah, yeah, we were havingMaddie, and so all the guys came
and Tisha came to hang out withme and you know, when, like,
two people see each other andit's uncomfortable yeah, we
called it a spark.
I think it was like a sex inthe city term.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, it was from.
Had canceled the wedding.
It wasn't like a goodrelationship.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, horrible I mean we can justify it that way, but
totally, Totally.
It was on its way out.
We didn't exchange numbers.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
We just like it was like a chemistry, yes, and I was
like that was weird, so anyway.
So they break up, kyle andCrystal set us up backs game and
we're there, he's trying to puthis arm around me.
I'm like, you know, like I wasbeing.
I was like I was so done atthat point with wasting my time.
I was late twenties.
I was like, no, I'm dating toget married.
(27:30):
I'm not going to act like I'mnot dating to get married.
If I'm going to scare a guy,I'm going to scare him off on
the first date, because thenyou're not hooked.
I knew exactly what I wanted andI was so over wasting my time.
So we um went on a first date,had a great first date, didn't
kiss or anything, um.
And so after that, you know,you start like texting and
calling every day.
So he's texting me.
(27:50):
So then the next weekend comesand he's like oh, I'm going to
Colorado to visit my parents.
I'm like, okay, have fun, like,I'm being all nice, his mom was
having surgery.
I'm like, great, have fun,that's so great Like.
And then he didn't really liketext me when he was like gone
and I was like that's so weird.
Well, I didn't know this at thetime, but his sister had tried
(28:13):
to set him up with her friendand they had kind of been
talking.
Well, they went on another date.
Oh yeah, he didn't go out oftown.
He just told me he was goingout of town and that girl came
here and they went on a date andthey kissed, and so he but you
were only talking.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We had only gone on one date but we were talking
every day.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So to me we're talking.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
But in the talking.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yes, we were just talking, stupid face.
He comes back and I thought itwas weird.
I didn't talk to him.
I'm like, hey, how was Colorado?
How's your family?
And then he felt guilty and hecalled Kyle and was like, hey,
this happened.
I lied to her.
I told her I was out of townbut I really was hanging out
with this girl.
And Kyle was like you got totell her.
I vouch for you, this is mysetup.
(28:56):
You better tell her.
And Kyle's so honest.
So Ben calls me and he's likehey, I have to tell you
something.
And I'm like what?
And he's like I was kind of mysister was setting me up with
her friend and she came in townand we hung out and it was
planned and we kissed, it wasplanned before you.
And I even went on our firstdate.
Like this has been planned forweeks and I just didn't know how
(29:16):
to cancel on her and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and I was
like, okay, cool, we're notgoing to talk anymore.
You can go talk to this othergirl and I'm happy for you.
Thank you for telling me thetruth.
But like I'm not going to datea guy that's talking to anyone
else and I'm dating to getmarried and I'm not going to
talk to someone that's wants totalk to other girls.
So you're either talking to meor and no one else, or that's
(29:39):
the end of it.
And he's like, okay, yeah, I'llcall her right now.
Oh yeah, no, no, no, I didn'tmean it, you know, but I wasn't
like afraid I was gonna scarehim off.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I wasn't afraid that Because you're gonna scare him
off anyways.
Yeah, like, if he doesn't likethat in the beginning, he's not
gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Especially me.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, you are very strong.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I'm like if a guy's not all in on with me, even
though it only been one date.
I was like no, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I agree, though it's so much better to end it in the
beginning, because you can stillget out with dignity and like
you're, you don't like, evenlike when you talk to someone
every night and say good night.
You stay just to have someonerather than the good one.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right, and I think that moment made him fall more
in love.
Oh, it always does, because hewas like you're not some schmuck
, I'm not a schmuck, I know myworth and I expect a lot and I'm
going to expect a lot from ahusband.
So if you can't be that whilewe're dating, you're not going
to be able to fulfill that as ahusband.
So, like if you're dating a guyand he's not giving you what
(30:44):
you need, it's never going towork, never.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's but it's better to know in the beginning and get
out than it is to like get soaddicted to the habit of him Now
.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm glad that happened because I was able to
like right away, be like yeah,no cool, if you want to talk to
anyone else, I'm done so welland in the beginning of a
relationship.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
They always remember you for who you were in the
beginning, right.
So, like, even when you getmarried and you go through
things like having a baby, yourbody changes, like you don't
always feel as confident.
But all I can lean on is thebeginning with Kyle that we did
make.
I did make him like really,work for me because I was.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
He know he had that girl.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Little does he know the other guy yeah, I was all,
I'm gonna be the cool girl.
Yeah, the cool girl gets younowhere.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
No, cool girl makes it and no one's really cool
inside.
No, it's dumb, no, like I amcool but the guys are hunters
though.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Girls, if you're single, guys want to work for
you.
They want the challenge.
Give them the challenge.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
No guy wants a doormat and if he does, he's got
a problem yeah, he's talkingeverybody yeah, if a guy wants a
doormat, he has likeinsecurities exactly schmucks,
yeah, so learning.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So if you're talking, don't talk too long, have an
opinion, don't be a doormat.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And the elections fraud, basically, is what he's
just teaching us comedy night,and now I feel like the prophecy
is fulfilling of us.
They were like you guys shouldhave a comedy show, and then now
we do.
Well, not yet.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
But we're going to.
Well, we have a comedy podcastand we're going to have a show
Right and Tisha wanted it to betopless.
But I'm like I'm not into that.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Not anymore.
Now, that Beast things.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, I'm all whoa.
Never seen them that big.
Anyways, we're going to end ithere today.
Great talk, what a great lesson.
Don't be a doormat, don't be adoormat.
Yep.
Welcome to Jerking Around apodcast that makes you feel
better about yourself, becausewe're a mess just like you, and
Crystal makes fun of me thewhole time, and it's great and
it's real.
Welcome to Jerking Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you, and Crystal makes fun of meall the time and it's great and
it's real.
Welcome to Jerking AroundTisha's mute, but today we're
(00:27):
talking about oh, we'rerecording.
Yes, this is the intro oh,perfect, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome to Jerking Around.
Today I'm going to talk.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, you talked a lot today, did I, and I didn't
interrupt you.
I'm proud of you.
Yeah, today we're talking aboutnot being a doormat, don't be a
schmuck, underwear in thedrawer, bible study and loving
everyone.
It's tisha's finally gonnastart.
I'm gonna start today speakingof let's talk about kristen
cavalieri what you just told metoday on the way here.
So you guys know, weeks ago wetalked about um.
She has a podcast.
(00:55):
Let's be honest we joke aboutit all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, and she said that she thought kanye was a
clone and she thought britneywas a clone.
And then today on her podcastshe released that she said
Brittany called her, which I'mlike.
No text.
First she called, oh, shecalled.
Her publicist called.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Okay, so not Brittany .
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But like that's crazy .
Speaker 1 (01:13):
They want to shut her up.
Who's?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
going to be calling us Chrissy Teigen.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
No, no, I don't think we'll get to that status.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We don't want to be famous, not like anyone's asking
us to be famous.
We, no.
I don't even want to be rich.
I do.
I know it's so weird again thethings you say out loud, let's
edit.
I just want to have a like, beable to still travel.
Yeah, you know, I don't careabout being rich, I just care
that I can do the things I wantto do.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I love that for you.
Which isn't rich yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You still want to be rich.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I do.
I love that for you though.
So I love that for you and I'mhappy for you.
Go ahead.
So, anyways, the person reachesout and says Brittany wants to
talk to you.
So she gets on a text withBrittany and her publicist and
Kristen.
A text is so weird and hermanager and I guess I only read
(02:11):
the recap I haven't listened tothe podcast yet because it just
came out this morning but shebasically was saying that
Brittany was texting on theresaying like I want to get
together basically to prove shewasn't a clone, because she had
said she was a clone.
So then Kristen sent her a textseparately.
Should I just play the clip?
Oh, yeah, here, but I don'tthink it has all of it on there.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But yeah, play the clip, okay anytime my publicist
calls me, by the way, I'm likewhat the fuck?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
who died what?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
happened like I can't , my heart can't take it, and he
goes guess who wants your phonenumber.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And I went who?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Brittany fucking?
Oh, bad word we're about tobleep that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Ok, go ahead, so anyways.
So she's on a text with thefour of them and Brittany's
acting like a non-clone, sayinglet's get together.
So then cut, they end that chat.
Then Kristen sends her a directtext message and says hey,
let's get together.
I'm not in LA a lot, but when Iam I would love to see you.
Brittany never responds.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's so weird.
So weird, I know, but like canthey just text from her phone?
But they didn't want her to gettogether without the publicist.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But she was like even more.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm thinking that's a clone.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, it's so bad something's going on.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
She's not allowed out of the house like it's gotta be
whacked or something sad.
I know it's so sad.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Anyways, speaking, of never mind, that's naughty what
I was gonna say I was talkingabout people that aren't allowed
out of the house, and there'sthose influencers we follow, and
I feel like they're not allowedout of the house too, and and
they're just normal.
It's weird, yeah, okay, movingon.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Okay, I forget.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We were going to talk about that cloning, there was
something else.
Oh, we went to Giggly Squadlast week.
Yeah, we went to Giggly Squadon Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It was really good.
I don't really listen to GigglySquad.
You don't listen to anything.
I don't listen our podcast forhalf a half, I know and then you
had 50 edits and it's just likeyou're not allowed to listen,
I'm all.
And then I do it, I'm all, I'mall, I'm all.
It's weird.
Well, I don't think anyonelikes their own voice.
Well, no, I'm gonna focus onnot saying I'm all.
And then you just said it 10times.
(04:16):
Well, after now, starting now.
You don't used to do thatSilent game, starting now,
regina.
No, we need our food out now.
Regina.
Our friend yelled at the waiteron Saturday and it was so funny
.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
She told him excuse me, we need our food out now and
we're like sorry, she's justangry.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I just have a thing where it's really hard for me to
be rude to servers, even ifthey're doing the worst job
possible, because I was a server.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, even if they're doing the worst job possible
because I was a server.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, and I still give her 20% tip.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Good job, because I just can't Moving on Giggly
Squad.
Yeah, so we went and we weresuper excited Tisha and I
thought it was foreshadowing.
Well, we both don't drink a lotand we had a martini, espresso
martini.
They're so good, they werereally good that night and we
were a little so then my I'm soglad social media wasn't around
(05:05):
in college.
I would have posted the worstthings, oh, the worst.
Like I feel bad for thatgeneration because I, like would
call guys, like sometimes 10times, and I'd be like, hey, you
want me to come over?
Yeah, they didn't, they did notwant me to come over and I kept
calling, thinking they werescared.
Yeah, it's so stupid?
(05:26):
Drunk calling, calling, drunktexting.
Oh so I might have buzz postedthat um foreshadowing for
jerking around us at gigglysquad, but it was really good.
I'm obsessed with page de sorbo.
I feel like everybody knowsthat.
I feel like I talk about thatall the time.
Yeah, she's probably my favoriteit's her and hannah, and I
don't love hannah on gigglysquad, but saturday night I
loved hannah, like even a littlemore than page, which I really
love to swear but I just thinkshe does it right.
She just gives us a hint of herlife, just enough that you're
(05:48):
so dang curious.
And I feel like she handlesbecause I'm obsessed with Summer
House and I'm obsessed withSouthern Charm two of the best
shows ever and like she alwayshandles things like so classy
but like opinionated, like she'salways who she is but she also
is like classy and she's like agirl's girl and like she can
wear anything and it looks good.
(06:09):
I mean, she could have threeroses on her neck.
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You always say I'm like Paige, but I don't feel
like if Paige wore the shirt youwould make fun of her.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I feel like you'd be like I love that, Not because
she's just more of a.
She's a girly.
She dresses very girly.
I'm a more casual.
She's very dressed up.
Yes, she's always like.
It's an outfit.
I feel like skirts a lot.
It's very more dressed up Way.
Dressed up, yeah.
So I don't feel like I'd seeher in a t-shirt ever.
She's always a crop, and what Ilike about her is she eats
(06:42):
normal food.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You a crop right, and what?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I like about her is she eats normal food you know
those people like she's nevertalking about dieting, she's
never worried about her body.
But they said at the show.
She doesn't eat carbs oh really, yeah, they did really, because
I was thinking should I not eatcarbs?
No, she eats carbs totally onthe show.
Oh yeah, bagel sandwiches shesaid at the ghillies one really
yeah and I, because I thought tomyself well, I'm not, there
goes the carbs no, she has lostweight recently, though I
thought she was doing the shotReally.
So I wonder if she stoppedeating carbs and she started
working out and she never usedto work out.
But you know what's weird aboutthat?
(07:11):
She was more appealing to mebefore with, like the body.
There's those people thatyou're like they're normal.
I feel like we're all sointrigued with being like normal
, like everybody who looks gooddoes something.
But she seemed like so, likehave a little of this but have a
little of that, right, but likenot obsess over it.
But then she started doing likebar classes and she started.
So I wonder if she stoppedeating carbs.
(07:32):
Hmm, but it was interesting.
At the show she was a littlebit more.
She's talked about her anxietybattle recently before the shows
and so she started taking betablockers and I felt like she was
weirdly like calm for herduring the show.
I didn't have anything tocompare to cause I haven't seen
that podcast and you don'tlisten yet or watch the TV shows
.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
But you said you're the Hannah, and then I loved
Hannah, so I was like well, thatmakes sense, cause I love you.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So I was, but I really loved Hannah Saturday
night too, which is weird, Causeusually I'm like shut up.
Oh, I loved Hannah the wholetime.
Yeah, she was awesome.
I feel like she was morecomfortable in that setting than
maybe on the show, yeah,Anyways.
So that was fun.
We went with our friends and itwas super fun, but we think we
could totally do that.
Did you see those people?
I sent you Mom so hard?
Yeah, Does anybody watch that?
No, they had to have a show too.
(08:17):
They had a show here.
So one day, because Tisha usedto want to be a comedian, you
told this last time, I know, butdid you tell about when you did
the single show?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
When I did the stand-up at church.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yes, tell them about it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I honestly don't even remember, because I think I
blacked out, because I think itwas so bad.
I think it was one of thosetraumatic experiences that if I
went and did the EDM therapy orwhatever it's called, and
they're tapping and they're likego back to like wait, where was
it at that would come.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Where was it at, though?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It was at CCV and it was church.
Yeah, we there used to be likea very big couples or singles
ministry.
We were a part of it and theyhad like a singles night and
then they thought we were funny.
Which is so crazy, yeah, whichis so crazy.
Yeah, and then you were gonebecause you had to go out of
town or something, yeah, and sothey were like you just do it,
but they wanted both of usoriginally, which I feel like
(09:09):
I'm better with you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I'm not good by myself we yeah, because we used
to you should have came with meto LA.
I'm all no, so well, why theyliked us at that ministry.
Let's tell this story.
It's been a while.
Yeah, um, we were in a singles,so no, we are.
So it's here.
In high school, we would try tostall practice on Saturdays and
(09:31):
they'd tell us to stand up andstart telling our coach stories.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
We'd all stretch.
We'd get in a big in highschool cheer.
We'd all get in a big circleand stretch for like the first
10 minutes of practice.
And so Crystal and I wouldstart like messing with each
other, messing, bantering backand forth, being really funny,
just to because we could makeour coach laugh.
Yeah, and then it would likedelay practice getting started
like, sometimes like an hour oh.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I know it was so funny, but um, so then in
college we were let's just bereal, let's be honest.
We might change your name whenyou want me to be real, because
you never are.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You never are.
You'll edit your stories and Iwant you to tell the truth.
If you want to be real, then goon Kristen's show and be real,
because you never are.
You never are.
You'll edit your stories and Iwant you to tell the truth.
If you want to be real, then goon kristen's show and be real
you know, this is jerking aroundwhen we lie no so we were.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
We were single and ready to mingle.
And well, tisha and I did thisthing and it was so great, I
really want to do it.
We talked about it before.
We did this thing called loveeverybody and it was like we
were loving everybody because wewere like, as Christians, we're
supposed to just love everybody.
But what we were we were lovinglike bad boyfriends too.
But I still support it.
Yeah, I literally, I literallydo.
(10:35):
I see one of my exes and I'vetalked about him on here and I
feel like I've talked about him.
Maybe not the best light, butif I could change that now I
follow, I think, all my exes onsocial media.
Kyle's super.
My husband is like, eh, andit's so cool, cause a lot of
them are Christian now andthat's because you loved him.
Yes, I do, I see it's about mereally.
(10:57):
Yeah, no, but I think that,like you plant a seed right,
that's what they tell you youplant a seed and you never know
when the seed's going to grow,and so I always believe that
showing certain people God'slove, like by loving them in
spite of themselves, they mighthave found God Right Eventually.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
But I do have a story about that time.
Okay, so I recently was helpinga client buy a house with a
builder and this was during myLove Everybody, and I was during
my love everybody and I wasvery motivational.
It was when I worked at Coach.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And I was a manager at Coach and it was during the
love everybody time.
The love everybody and I wasloving on my employees.
I wish we could just we'regoing to try again, I know.
So I hired this guy and we Ilike just was normal to him, but
(11:48):
apparently I was like youweren't normal, you were loving
everybody.
Yeah, every day was like let'sinspire him, right.
It was like our goal was toinspire and love and bring
people to Jesus and it was likeI was a way better person than I
am now me too, and so, anyways,this was literally 25 years ago
so, or 20 years ago so crazy.
I was helping a client buy a newbuild with a company, um, and
there was an issue with thehouse, so it got escalated up to
corporate and I was emailingback and forth with the agent a
(12:10):
lot and then I had to get alittle crazy and then she was
like we weren't hearing back andI was always very nice to her,
and so she was telling herfriend who's like really high up
at the company and she was like, yeah, this agent is like great
, she's been great.
And then he was like, yeah,this agent is is like great,
she's been great.
And then he was like I know her, she gave me this opportunity
(12:30):
at coach and believed in me insales, and now he's like really
high up, it's so cool, and soshe called me to tell me and
she's like he just like you madesuch an impact on his life and
I was like I'm a what's his nameagain?
No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Hopefully he doesn't listen.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, I wasn't, but I was.
I couldn't believe it Cause Iknow if someone would have asked
me if I impacted anybody duringthat time, I'd be like no way
what we did during that time.
To that I want to bring backthe boyfriends, though that was
just being an idiot.
I'm always sleeping witheverybody he loved.
I'm going to love him.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I did love him anyways.
No, let's talk about that.
Hold on Two things.
One thing we did during thistime let's remember we didn't
get offended.
No, and church was just aboutthat.
Don't be easily offended, I'mnot easily offended.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So I don't think I am .
You think I'm easily offended.
I think you're easily done withpeople.
Yeah, but I'm not offended.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You're done with them so easily, it's the same.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's different.
I think it's so different.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
No, you need to be loving them.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I'm like I'm easily.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, you're not easilyoffended, you're not sensitive.
No, I'm not sensitive.
If they weren't our cup of tea,we loved them anyways.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
They were maybe annoying, we loved them anyways.
More tolerant maybe.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
No, loving, it wasn't like we ignored them.
You ignore so many people now Ido.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, I think it's getting older.
You have like less, but likewhat if you would have ignored
him?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I know I don't think he did anything to piss me off,
though I'm saying Tolerant,tolerant, you're not very
tolerant, but we loved everyone,no matter how they treated us,
no matter if they were rude tous, no matter if they, but
that's like what Jesus commandsus to do, so I got to get back
to that.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's what I'm saying.
I know I'm working on it.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Oh gosh, it's all about the three, so we're going
to go back to it.
Yeah, we're going to go back toit.
Everyone saw good in everyone,even when they showed us they're
bad, correct, and what else didwe do?
We were like we're listening togod's plan for our day.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
We'd be like it's not about us today, it's about him,
like if something derailed, I'dbe like this is where god wants
me to be.
It was a very like peaceful.
I had a lot of inner peace.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It was like the probably the most peaceful time
in my life, right, but it washard because we were single and
lonely.
So, oh yeah, the single, that'swhat we were talking about.
We were single, and so ourboyfriends.
So one of my ex-boyfriends Iloved him.
He was like so we went to aformal for sorority and when you
go to a formal it's like promor homecoming, and we went and
we danced on the bar all night.
We had the best time, andusually guys like me because I
(14:53):
fun, but then they like get allshy and want to be alone with me
all the time and never go doanything fun.
So it's like always a weirdthing, right.
So when he danced all night andlike we went out all night with
Jed and Ryan, our best friends,it was like I was hooked yeah so
then I was hooked for a lot ofreasons, really really good
looking, and I always liked guyswith muscles, like I was really
(15:15):
into guys with, like, a lot ofmuscles, big muscles.
Oh, I every guy had muscles andI.
And then I dated someone thathasn't worked out in 10 years
but I love muscles.
You know who I'm talking about,right, yeah, yeah, so everybody
loved him.
It's totally like like uh-huh,and everybody loved him.
So you know how you thinkyou're going to tame the one.
(15:36):
Yeah, and he was like wild andlike all the things were just
really great, you know.
And so he, I moved back toPhoenix.
So we dated, talked, stupidTalked meaning he's talking to
me and other girls and I'mpretending he's only talking to
me.
So we talked for a while andthen I moved back to Phoenix.
(15:57):
So when I would come back up wewould hang out.
And I remember one time Iopened his drawers and there's
all these.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Which so concerning on so many levels.
Is he a serial killer who keepsunderwear of?
Like?
If I found that I'd be like?
I'd be like it's so weird, sos911.
Like he's going to kill me andtake my underwear?
Like it's weird.
It's so concerning.
Like are they trophies?
Like was there a lock of hairor a finger?
You know, it's so concerning Iwas concerned but I like talked
(16:27):
myself out of it, but you wereloving him.
I love people, even if they'reserial killers like what are
these?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
yeah, nothing, he's like, it's nothing, it's just
they left him here.
They're all different colorsand all different.
Oh my gosh, I should have ran.
I should have ran, called thecops no, and I maybe and I like
like a necklace talking to himkillers keep like a piece of
(16:55):
jewelry.
it's so scary, so bad.
And he didn't even like actlike it was anything.
He was like, yeah, they lefthim here and I was like, you
know, when you, it's sorelatable to everything in life.
But like I didn't want to makewaves because I didn't want him
to stop talking to me.
Yeah, so I was like, well, I'lljust love him.
And it was so bad.
And so he's like, yeah, theyleft him.
(17:16):
Clearly, like while we were,they left him there and I just
ignored it and I kept loving himand he kept jerking me.
But and I was like I'm going toshow him God and I'm just going
to keep loving him and keeploving him.
Literally, he did become myboyfriend eventually, right, and
he like said I love you.
It turned into like what Ithought it could be Right, but
(17:36):
what was weird is, when it did,I didn't like him anymore, right
, you know how that happens Likeit's the ungettable get, and he
got like way more.
He was very, very smart and hehad very big aspirations.
I just felt like I could nevermeasure up and so it wasn't like
.
That's why I stopped liking him.
It just like when you get allof somebody.
Finally you can see if yourrelationship really works.
But we ended on like good termsand we stayed very close.
(17:57):
He ended up becoming aChristian Like I don't regret
that ever, but now with our kidslike I don't want Maddie to
love them anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, you know, it's hard, maddie's my daughter Well,
and I don't think that likeit's a fine line of loving.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You even say that for you, because sometimes you're I
know.
But am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, you're not, because remember in Bible study
it says turn the other cheek ifsomeone does wrongdoing to you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But in counseling they said Jesus wasn't a schmuck
either.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, I think that.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Because that's where I get confused.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Well, it's like your kids.
I'm loving my kids, but I'mstill going to have Discipline,
discipline.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Or like a standard how you're going to act.
Yeah, Like I love Ben, but ifhe's cheating on me or beating
me, I'm not loving him.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm going to have a boundary, so I think it's like
there's got to be some yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That's what was hard when we were so young and naive
we didn't care.
But like I don't regret any ofthat, no, but so we still loving
everyone.
But we were going out likepartying on the weekend.
We wanted to find nice guys,yeah.
So we were going to the barsand we're, because once you're
like in your job, it's boring.
That's why I do.
(19:05):
I'm kind of on the fence aboutcollege, Cause I do think it's
like all the things, yes.
I wasn't going to say it to tryto keep a few listeners.
They're gone from the electionfraud, but I do agree and I
don't use my degree, Kyle, myhusband doesn't use his degree.
It's expensive.
I was in debt for years becauseof college.
But what I love about college,even what you know, we had
(19:26):
different college experiences.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
We both said this yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
But we grew in those four years.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's like a trial for adulthood.
You're not at home in highschool, living with your parents
, but you're not fullyresponsible yet.
You're still kind of being akid, yeah.
But you can like.
It buys you time it does.
And I do think you're soundeveloped still at that age
your brain, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Decision-making.
Is that why you got those?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Exactly A hundred percent.
So I think it's good to not befully thrown into working.
I agree, starting a family,cause you're still figuring
things out, yeah, so it's kindof like high school part two
it's like.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It is like high school part two, you know Then
when you're done with collegeprobably one of my crazier times
, I would say, was when we weredone with college.
I had a house with some friends, right, you ended up living
with me.
Everybody kind of a bunch ofpeople lived with me.
We would have like gatherings,and then we would go out to the
bars because that's whateverybody did, right, and so we
would go out and I mean therewas some really fun nights, but
(20:22):
stupid nights too, and so wewould go.
Tisha and I decided to join asingles Bible study to try to
meet the right guy, right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Cause we were meeting jerks at the bar.
I'm like, yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm all so anyways.
So our Bible study if you guyshave ever done a Bible study or
a small group, we would go andthey would be like a Christian
off.
It would be like I've prayedfive times today and and we're
all singles.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It was very like every no one was real.
It was very surface, very likeone, upy the girl with her womb.
I prayed all the time and I'mthinking I'm not praying all the
time.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So so one day we're watching, we had a Superbowl
party, like a week before theincident.
We had a Superbowl party and,um, they kind of alluded that
Janet Jackson had fake boobs andit was like this negative.
Remember when?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Justin Timberlake pulled her thing down and showed
her boob with like a pasty.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, and so they were mad.
She had fake boobs or something, right?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They were mad about that and the fake boobs.
Yeah they were exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
They were bashing because she had fake boobs and
Tisha had fake boobs at the time.
I didn't, I know.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The tables have turned.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So we were hanging out with them.
So then Tisha was kind ofannoyed at them, like you jerks.
So then we were hanging outwith them and Tisha told them
that I'm getting a, a car goingto do like the gifts for like
the angel tree.
Yeah, and he's just like youguys, crystal has to tell you
something.
And these girls are squeaky.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Wheel clean is what we understand.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Things to ruffle their feathers, you know so she
said you guys, crystal's reallynervous that you're gonna judge
her.
She's getting a boob job andshe's worried that you're gonna
judge her this and that.
And they're like, and I waslike no, I'm not.
She's like, see, she doesn'twant to tell you.
And I was like no, really,she's like Crystal, it's fine, I
got this.
And they were not judgmental,they were they were like we love
you.
She's like well, she knows, yougot mad about Janet Jackson, so
(22:05):
she doesn't want.
And they really thought I wasgetting a boob job.
So then we go back to Bible.
You woke up and it was allbattered.
That never happened and anyways, so we're sitting there and
what happened?
What triggered?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
you?
I don't remember, but somethinghappened in Bible study.
No one was being real, everyonewas being judgmental and we
needed help.
Yeah, we did and we were likewe were partying.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
We needed like help.
We didn't want to talk aboutthe dumb things.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, like surface, and we were wanting like real
connection and like people to bereal and we weren't being
perfect, so for them to be soperfect, it was just very like
off-putting.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We felt alone, like we weren't worthy.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I yelled at them.
I don't remember.
So all of a sudden we're justsitting there.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
So she stands up.
It's like in a gathering likethis, like you're sitting,
indian style, the guys havetheir shoes off, you know, yeah,
and she stands up, which islike whoa, and she's like and
you know what?
I'm done with this?
You were like my mom's drunk.
We're drunk every weekend andI'm done faking it and I have
fake boobs and I'm sick of allof you.
And so why don't you all justkeep reading your Bibles?
(23:17):
I'm leaving.
She slams the door.
Let's go, crystal.
Yeah, and she's my ride.
And I get up and I'm like thankyou, your house is beautiful.
We'll see you guys next week.
Thank you again.
And like I leave.
And I was like Tisha, we can'tleave like this.
And so she's like I'm done withthem.
It's a waste of time again.
(23:42):
They're all we have.
Otherwise we'll be drunk more.
Yeah, so we go back in.
Oh, we went back.
That's when it how it happened.
I didn't remember if it was thenext time.
No, I think we went back in.
Yeah, everybody starts tellingthese stories.
They're all.
You guys are right, I'm a drunkand we're like what?
it's like I have a child, likean illegitimate child and then
it was like, oh so we go back in, everybody starts talking.
One of them was struggling withdrinking, like us, right.
Another one had a child that hewas feeling so guilty.
(24:03):
They have no relationship,right.
It was the coolest thing.
We became so close with thesepeople.
I miss that.
Yeah, we were best friends.
Our one friend who had theillegitimate child he ended up
rekindling with her.
Yeah, he got married.
We we're at his wedding.
Like we were best friends.
It's when you did the comedything, cause they went that
night to support you.
But we were doing like God'splan, like we were living like
(24:26):
so differently back then.
It was like the coolest thingand we weren't perfect but we
were just loving and I thinkthat was so like inspiring yeah.
So we need to get back to that.
I'm going to get back there,anyways, but with our kids and
dating cause I, my oldest, is inhigh school now and she's doing
the talking that we've beentalking about, and so question
(24:46):
for our listeners, our jerkieshow long is too long?
Like, how much talking is toolong?
Like my ex with the underwear,it was clearly too long.
Like he they're going to lockit in Crap or get off the pot,
yeah or not?
So, like so many of mycheerleaders do this talking
thing.
Some of them talk for a shortamount of time, then they're in
(25:07):
a relationship.
Others are talking for years.
I think talking for years isweird.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think it's just like letting him have his cake
and eat it too, right.
He's basically getting all thegreat things about being in a
relationship, the check-in everyday, text, good morning, good,
blah, blah but then there's nocommitment level.
Yeah, so that's again where Ifeel like there should be a
commitment level if you'regetting all the good things
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I agree, it's like a trade-off, I agree, but I don't
want to be too crazy and too Iwould say so during our single
days.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
you don't want to jump in in a day, but I think a
month month and a half.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
We were just telling this story too.
You're not going to be real onthat, but we were talking about
when we both met our husbands.
I did the drinking and then Ilearned finally, like I'm
getting meeting guys at bars,they're losers.
Right, we're not starting ourrelationship on the right foot.
I'm putting up with way toomuch, you know, trying to be the
cool girl and I just talked tomy daughter about this too Right
, cool girl gets you nowhere.
(25:59):
No, cool girl gets you nowhere.
No, I've had friends that werecool girls and it didn't work
out in their favor.
Like a guy wants a girl that'sgoing to make him work.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Right, I truly believe that I'll tell the story
.
So when Ben and I we went on adate, kyle and Crystal set us up
.
I knew him from high school, myhusband, but Crystal and I are
best friends, her husband andKyle.
Her husband, kyle and myhusband played baseball in
college.
They've been friends forever,so they were friends, and then
her and I are friends.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So can we say, though Kyle was supposed to be in
Ben's wedding to his ex fiance.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So we were like super close with Ben and his fiance,
who he met in college, so anyway.
So they had just broke it uplike really really recently,
like five minutes before,remember you sparked?
Yeah, we did spark.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
When they were still together yeah, we had a poker
night for Kyle, because we werewas it Maddie?
Yeah, yeah, we were havingMaddie, and so all the guys came
and Tisha came to hang out withme and you know, when, like,
two people see each other andit's uncomfortable yeah, we
called it a spark.
I think it was like a sex inthe city term.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, it was from.
Had canceled the wedding.
It wasn't like a goodrelationship.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, horrible I mean we can justify it that way, but
totally, Totally.
It was on its way out.
We didn't exchange numbers.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
We just like it was like a chemistry, yes, and I was
like that was weird, so anyway.
So they break up, kyle andCrystal set us up backs game and
we're there, he's trying to puthis arm around me.
I'm like, you know, like I wasbeing.
I was like I was so done atthat point with wasting my time.
I was late twenties.
I was like, no, I'm dating toget married.
(27:30):
I'm not going to act like I'mnot dating to get married.
If I'm going to scare a guy,I'm going to scare him off on
the first date, because thenyou're not hooked.
I knew exactly what I wanted andI was so over wasting my time.
So we um went on a first date,had a great first date, didn't
kiss or anything, um.
And so after that, you know,you start like texting and
calling every day.
So he's texting me.
(27:50):
So then the next weekend comesand he's like oh, I'm going to
Colorado to visit my parents.
I'm like, okay, have fun, like,I'm being all nice, his mom was
having surgery.
I'm like, great, have fun,that's so great Like.
And then he didn't really liketext me when he was like gone
and I was like that's so weird.
Well, I didn't know this at thetime, but his sister had tried
(28:13):
to set him up with her friendand they had kind of been
talking.
Well, they went on another date.
Oh yeah, he didn't go out oftown.
He just told me he was goingout of town and that girl came
here and they went on a date andthey kissed, and so he but you
were only talking.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We had only gone on one date but we were talking
every day.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So to me we're talking.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
But in the talking.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yes, we were just talking, stupid face.
He comes back and I thought itwas weird.
I didn't talk to him.
I'm like, hey, how was Colorado?
How's your family?
And then he felt guilty and hecalled Kyle and was like, hey,
this happened.
I lied to her.
I told her I was out of townbut I really was hanging out
with this girl.
And Kyle was like you got totell her.
I vouch for you, this is mysetup.
(28:56):
You better tell her.
And Kyle's so honest.
So Ben calls me and he's likehey, I have to tell you
something.
And I'm like what?
And he's like I was kind of mysister was setting me up with
her friend and she came in townand we hung out and it was
planned and we kissed, it wasplanned before you.
And I even went on our firstdate.
Like this has been planned forweeks and I just didn't know how
(29:16):
to cancel on her and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and I was
like, okay, cool, we're notgoing to talk anymore.
You can go talk to this othergirl and I'm happy for you.
Thank you for telling me thetruth.
But like I'm not going to datea guy that's talking to anyone
else and I'm dating to getmarried and I'm not going to
talk to someone that's wants totalk to other girls.
So you're either talking to meor and no one else, or that's
(29:39):
the end of it.
And he's like, okay, yeah, I'llcall her right now.
Oh yeah, no, no, no, I didn'tmean it, you know, but I wasn't
like afraid I was gonna scarehim off.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I wasn't afraid that Because you're gonna scare him
off anyways.
Yeah, like, if he doesn't likethat in the beginning, he's not
gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Especially me.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, you are very strong.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I'm like if a guy's not all in on with me, even
though it only been one date.
I was like no, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I agree, though it's so much better to end it in the
beginning, because you can stillget out with dignity and like
you're, you don't like, evenlike when you talk to someone
every night and say good night.
You stay just to have someonerather than the good one.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right, and I think that moment made him fall more
in love.
Oh, it always does, because hewas like you're not some schmuck
, I'm not a schmuck, I know myworth and I expect a lot and I'm
going to expect a lot from ahusband.
So if you can't be that whilewe're dating, you're not going
to be able to fulfill that as ahusband.
So, like if you're dating a guyand he's not giving you what
(30:44):
you need, it's never going towork, never.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It's but it's better to know in the beginning and get
out than it is to like get soaddicted to the habit of him Now
.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm glad that happened because I was able to
like right away, be like yeah,no cool, if you want to talk to
anyone else, I'm done so welland in the beginning of a
relationship.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
They always remember you for who you were in the
beginning, right.
So, like, even when you getmarried and you go through
things like having a baby, yourbody changes, like you don't
always feel as confident.
But all I can lean on is thebeginning with Kyle that we did
make.
I did make him like really,work for me because I was.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
He know he had that girl.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Little does he know the other guy yeah, I was all,
I'm gonna be the cool girl.
Yeah, the cool girl gets younowhere.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
No, cool girl makes it and no one's really cool
inside.
No, it's dumb, no, like I amcool but the guys are hunters
though.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Girls, if you're single, guys want to work for
you.
They want the challenge.
Give them the challenge.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
No guy wants a doormat and if he does, he's got
a problem yeah, he's talkingeverybody yeah, if a guy wants a
doormat, he has likeinsecurities exactly schmucks,
yeah, so learning.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So if you're talking, don't talk too long, have an
opinion, don't be a doormat.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And the elections fraud, basically, is what he's
just teaching us comedy night,and now I feel like the prophecy
is fulfilling of us.
They were like you guys shouldhave a comedy show, and then now
we do.
Well, not yet.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
But we're going to.
Well, we have a comedy podcastand we're going to have a show
Right and Tisha wanted it to betopless.
But I'm like I'm not into that.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Not anymore.
Now, that Beast things.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, I'm all whoa.
Never seen them that big.
Anyways, we're going to end ithere today.
Great talk, what a great lesson.
Don't be a doormat, don't be adoormat.
Yep.
Welcome to Jerking Around apodcast that makes you feel
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