S3 EP9: Digital Dramas and Family Feuds

What if your Tesla had a stand-up routine while it chauffeured you around?

Strap in for a wild ride through the techy chaos with Tisha and me, where we try to figure out self-driving cars and Alexa’s suspiciously judgmental stare—half awe, half panic. Teisha spills the beans on how she’s turned intimacy into the ultimate home negotiation tactic, sparking an epic showdown with our husbands, Kyle and Ben, over the ancient art of "getting stuff done" around the house. Prepare for a laugh-out-loud debate on modern life, where tech and tradition crash together like a toddler on a sugar high.

Then, we take a sharp turn into the world of celebrity gossip and dive into the juicy breakup drama of Paige DeSorbo and Craig Conover. As a self-proclaimed expert in reality TV scandals, I dish out the gossip and dive deep into whether AI has any place in our social lives—can career dreams and relationship goals ever truly get on the same page? From TikTok challenges to figuring out young love, we explore how social media is giving guys a boost while leaving young women stranded in the dating game. It’s a no-holds-barred chat about how the digital age is messing with our hearts.

And just when you think things can’t get any crazier, we head to the slopes for a family ski trip adventure—where the thrills are high, and the wipeouts are even higher. We reflect on the beauty of letting kids stumble and learn on their own, while secretly holding back our terror. Add in a dash of family traditions, the delicate dance between parenting and independence, and plenty of giggles about the quirky things that make us human. Whether we’re dishing about celebrity love lives or debating the best way to teach your kid to ski, one thing is for sure: none of us have it all together—and that’s the way we like it.

Tune in for an episode packed with laughs, life lessons, and maybe a little reevaluation of your tech-filled existence!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Jerkin' Around, a podcast that makes you
feel better about yourself,because we're a mess just like
you and Crystal makes fun of methe whole time and it's great
and it's real.
Welcome to Jerkin Round.

(00:25):
Welcome, I was trying to.
Tisha and I we ride togetherwhen we come to this recording
and then we talk about so manygood things in the car, so some
of these things we tried not totalk about in the car.
So I'm excited to talk to himabout her.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I was trying to talk to her and she's like save it.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
You guys, we I recently got a Tesla.
This isn't the story I've beenwaiting to tell you, but I
recently got a Tesla and wedrove it here today.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
We because we is a loose term.
The Tesla drove itself.
The Tesla drove us.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
The Tesla drove us here.
Tisha has the stomach flu, jet.
I hope you don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, I'm better today.
She had the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yesterday we had to reschedule the podcast.
Yeah, so she doesn't ever letme drive, never, ever lets me
drive, so but I'm sick.
She's so sick she doesn't evenknow what day it is.
So I'm like I'll drive us today, but I'll let the Tesla drive
which I never let it drive sothat we don't swerve, because I
swerve a lot.
And so it drove us here and itwas safe, I didn't even do

(01:24):
anything.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It literally drove us here and we got here faster,
yeah, and it was very less jerky.
Normally we're like jerkinginto the lane.
I'm like why are we jerking?
It's so scary and we're goingat like a high speed so I think
the car's going to like flip itwas.
There was no jerking it was.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Everybody says I'm a bad driver.
It's awful, it was like verysmooth transitions.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Normally the transitions aren't that smooth.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
No, we're slamming the brakes.
Really we're going, reallywe're trying to get over.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yes, so.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
So when I was little, the little car games you know
that you play at the arcade, Ican't stay in the lines the car
was, and I just think it's likeGod created me to not stay in
the lines, like in art.
As a kid I got a C because Icouldn't color in the darn lines
.
Yeah, I'm just.
I feel like Kennedy's, like me,yeah, or your daughter.
We're not staying in the lines,we like to live outside the

(02:14):
lines.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
And I support that.
But I feel like there's like asafety element to staying in the
lines while driving.
I feel like it's like life ordeath, but I do think this is a
great car for you, it is a goodcar for me.
I could never own this carbecause I didn't really want one
.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, there's so many things I want to talk about
even touch the wheel the wholetime.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Pretty, much.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
No touching the wheel .
I didn't touch the wheel yet,but what's crazy is there's so
many topics coming to my head.
So if I stop looking at theroad, the camera Tesla knows,
and then they warn you that ifyou don't start looking at the
road, it's going to stop drivingso you couldn't fully just be
like on your phone.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, it won't want you involved watching, watching.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I even was looking at tisha on my phone and it was
like get looking and then, but Ididn't have to have my hands.
But there's so many thingsabout this that we'll just go
right into the robots.
The blow up we were in vegasthis weekend and there was that
Tesla that blew up and Elon wentin to get the camera footage
but I don't know what it camefrom.
That's where I learned therewas a camera.

(03:11):
I didn't even know there was acamera in the car.
I wonder if you can accessfootage, like if Maddie's with a
boy, and I'm like, hey, elon,yeah, check what they did last
night, because say goodbye well,I feel like you can access it,
but what's more concerning isare they accessing it without
our consent?
oh, for sure, like Alexa knowsway too much.
Totally.
We have Alexas in our house andI'll be like Alexa say good

(03:33):
night to the kids or whatever umspeaker, and she's like Crystal
, I'll say that and then sheknows it's me.
I don't say this is Crystal.
Yeah, there's a lot of AIthings coming up and they're
watching and Alexa would be.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
She's probably watching.
What you and Kyle doing is justlike what the.
This is some freaky.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
She can't believe it so Tisha and I gosh, I have like
four topics.
I don't want to lose the robotand Paige and Craig.
But no, Tisha and I talkedafter the last episode.
I think or no, in life shealways uses like sex as a
negotiating tool for Ben.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh yeah, we got to talk about that and so she was
telling me like hey, we talkedabout it on the podcast last
week Did you Like I'm giving itup too easily?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yes, yeah, and you told Kyle, kyle was so mad he's
like no, I get what I want.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
We went on a ski trip together and we were telling
the guys, Kyle and Ben, ourhusbands about the last podcast,
how I use it as like a hey, putaway my suitcase from the trip
and I'll give you a little.
He puts away your suitcase forthe yeah and then he knows he
gets.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Does he unpack your whole suitcase?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
He gets a little treat, yeah, and like that's
usually a closet, so it's alittle special and so we'll do
it in the closet because he likeput away the suitcase, you know
.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
So all day are you just negotiating things?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Kind of, and so we were telling Kyle and Ben this,
and Kyle is beside himself, he'spissed, is beside himself.
He's like, first of all,crystal just does these things
for no reason, which I'm likewhat is wrong with you?
What girl's doing that?
Like it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And then and then so I'm trying to tell crystal no no
, no, you got to take it awaylike yeah, you gotta make it
more like oh, you've given itall and it's like there's no,
you gotta rein it back in.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
And then ben is, and then kyle's telling ben, you
don't need to put up with thisman, you should be getting all
that for no reason, like, oh,he's still mad about it, oh, but
it was just funny because wewere both telling the other
person and then so ben tried toact like did he?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
yeah, yeah I was like what if I was like you, let you
out, right, I get what I want,you're gonna do it for no reason
.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I was like okay, buddy, you know, no, I'm not and
guy was like but good for you.
Ever try to use that as anegotiating blah blah and I
tried to be like I'll give yousomething special, and he's like
oh yeah, like last night, likefor no reason it's fine, I can't

(06:03):
elaborate anymore, I can'teither, but boy, boy, yeah.
Different strokes for differentfolks, totally and all the
strokes for kyle, he's gettingall the things the whole kitten
caboodle for nothing, I mean.
But what do you use then to gethim to do what you want?
He doesn't so horrible.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
So you just no wonder why I say, when Kyle says no,
it's no, yeah, I'm like yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Ben says no, I'm like , oh, I gotta go to like.
There's like levels, you know?
Yeah, I don't know.
First level is like I'll benice to you.
The second level is like theexit, like that thing.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's like it's not really a thing that, so that
that's probably the only thingthat is left.
That's just not gonna happen.
Shoot.
So all the other things I meanyeah, you're just doing them.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
So yeah, just like we can go in the closet anytime
yeah, so and like, do the allthe things.
True, I'm being honest when Iask you this how do you get him
to do something when he says no,like how do you change his mind
?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'm saying okay, so I fight with him.
Like we have to discuss it fordays oh, that's way less fun
it's not fun.
Yeah, no, we have to be likeKyle.
This really matters to me.
That's why I didn't go to theBahamas.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh, you know it was like, no, oh yeah, no, and I
even do with our friends.
I'm like I'm not gonna usenames to protect the privacy of
those involved, but I'll be like, hey, let's all go do this in
our, in a group.
And then I say, hey, jack,susie will do this if you guys
can come, and then Susie's likehold the phone here, but then

(07:37):
you know what would she do?
The same things that I'll dowhat go in the closet.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I mean, if I called Kyle right now, you'll hear him
get so mad.
I can't that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
So you have to fight to get what you want yes, always
don't you notice?
That's real.
No, I'm being serious like I'mI.
I do notice now that you'rebringing it to my attention, but
I'm genuinely like wow, becauseI don't ever fight to get what
I want.
Yes, it's all about the no.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I have to fight for everything I want that he
doesn't want.
Yeah, oh my gosh, it's hours ofdiscussion and I don't think
I've ever fought to get what Iwant.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
That's so interesting .

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I never have not.
Like it's a whole thing.
Yeah, it's annoying.
Oh, that's so annoying if I'mreally nice and if I make it be
his idea that I might, but no,that's why it's always no.
On certain things I'm like no,I also know.
Yeah, like it's one of thoserelationships where it looks
like I'm the strong one, butreally he is Like I can get him
to do things, but not the bigthings.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I know, yeah, no, if I said, I don't even know
what I would say Like okay, wecan.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
He'd be like, okay, like if I tried to call him
right now and be like, hey, ifyou do this, I'll do this.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Let's go to like San Diego this weekend.
And he'll be like, no, you'recrazy.
And then I'll be like, hey, wecan you can see.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
What would you say, we can?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I would probably throw out like a number.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Like a number, what?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Like a number, like a oh, 79?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I would say we can, and then he would say okay, fine
, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
No, it's like crazy, it's like magic yeah, that's
just normal interesting normalaround these parts.
Yeah, not like the number, butthose things go on.
Okay, let's move on.
I'm sweating, okay.
Yeah, I want to talk aboutPaige and Craig's breakup.
It's big news and if you'velistened to this a lot, you know
that I love Paige DeSorbo and Ilove Craig Conover.

(09:46):
They're both pages from SummerHouse.
She also did Winter House.
She also is a host of GigglySquad a podcast that we talk
about.
We went to their show and thenCraig is on Southern Charm,
which is one of my favoriteshows, as well as Summer House
are.
They're probably like my twofavorite reality shows, and
Winter House, which they've bothbeen on.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
You were very excited when this match.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yes, it was like a match made in heaven for me.
But if you've listened, I'vealso expressed on the podcast
that something is weird withtheir relationship.
And now it's true.
I knew page wasn't gonna marryhim because she wouldn't like.
There was so, so many things.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
If you watch the shows, they were never moving
together.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
They were never moving together.
When they first started dating.
She said she would move becauseI've rewatched now.
She said she would move toNorth Carolina, south Carolina,
south Carolina, south Carolina.
When you know like they starteddating because everyone's like
if you date him, right, you know, and she's like, oh, I'd move
in a second you know, and she'slike oh, I'd move in a second,
like she wanted to marry himright away, south Carolina.

(10:46):
But Giggly Squad Paige's famelevel was a lot different back
then.
So I don't want the gigglers tocome for me because this is
something that's been going onthis week in social media.
So if you talk negatively aboutPaige, it's not good.
No, but I I would say on thebreakup, I am team Craig.
If there was a side, I lovePaige to death, but I just think
I could.

(11:06):
I think she knew she wasn'tgonna marry him or thought there
was something weird.
I don't think we ever know.
Like when you're with a guy andyou think you're not gonna
marry him, it's like you try totalk yourself into thinking it's
a good idea.
I've done that where I'm likewell, it'll be fine once we get
married, this will go away orthat will go away or this will
feel better.
But when you're with the rightguy, it's so clear as day that

(11:27):
you're going to marry them andthat they're right, that it's
like you.
I wish I could tell girls waitfor that feeling, because you'll
never have a doubt.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
So when she went after they broke up, she went on
her podcast and said the reasonthey broke up is because she's
focused on her career.
She's said the reason theybroke up is because she's
focused on her career.
She's not ready to settle down.
He wants to settle down.
She's really into her careerand doesn't want that.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Do you think that that, if you're with the right
person that that goes away.
Yes, like if Hannah is just asinto her career, right which
Hannah has really come frombehind and speaking.
I love Hannah.
Hannah wasn't always myfavorite.
Now, hannah Bren, hannahBrenner yeah, that's her last
name.
She also is a comedian, burnBurn, burner Burner, and she has
a podcast out there that's goodon her own, and then she has
this.
But Hannah got married likeright away.

(12:15):
They started dating.
She's like he's the one Gotengaged, got married Right,
supports her career.
It's just not a thing, right?
Hannah's waiting to have kidsfor Paige.
I think that part's a littlelike weird, you know, and like
we had that where I was tryingto wait and then it all worked
out where we had kids together.
But, um, I just think, yeah, Ithink that Craig on southern

(12:36):
term it's always talked abouthow his friends were like
something's weird.
She doesn't come on trips withus.
They stopped filming in eachother's shows, which is so weird
.
Like who doesn't want to bewith their boyfriend over the
weekend?
Yeah, like I would do anythingto not have my boyfriend out
without me too.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Totally like make sure you're here and nobody
cares about her career, like youcare, but like when you're in
love, you don't care aboutanything.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
No, nothing, it's like whatever, I'm just like you
care about that number andshe's like not that number yeah,
and not like she's old, butshe's not like a spring chicken
you know, that's the part whenyou're in your mid-30s, early to
mid-30s, I feel like thinkingabout settling down is a really
normal natural yes, the eggs yes, so, craig, in this season of

(13:21):
Southern Time, he froze hissperm.
Wow, yeah, because he wasgetting ready to settle down and
Paige was pushing it off.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I think it just wasn't the one.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
But, moving on from that, whatever you guys think
about that topic is whatever.
But Tisha has been scared thatwe're going to get sued from the
podcast, so we've been editingsome things a little more,
editing everything.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I know Well because my conspiracies, the things I
discuss on here, versus thethings that I really believe in
my head, I can't even touch onthose things here because it
would be like, first of all,they probably put me in a sane
asylum Like Kanye, yeah, or andor.
I would be killed, or, likemany others, I would be really
threatened, like I already was,so Called old.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, so we have been editing, but I got a really got
mad last week.
Somebody said that she cheatedwith this other guy, and she's
usually doesn't care whatanybody says.
I told you yeah, and she got onthere and said see you in court
.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah To the person.
Oh, I crap my pants If Paigesaid that to me, if Justin says
that to me, Bieber, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, oh, i'm'm so done, but she was talking about
our podcast yesterday.
She's like I didn't mean it, Ijust wanted to scare him.
Oh, she's like, I'm not gonnawaste my time on that.
Oh yeah, so I wanted you toknow that.
Oh yeah, that helps that's nota big.
They're not gonna do it aboutme and, like Tyler told us, if
Justin's coming for us, it'slike there's a reason, like
maybe it was.
It would make him look worse,yeah, and it would give us more
credibility.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I don't want anyone to sue me.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
No, but moving forward, yeah.
So moving on with the Tesla,the robots is something we've
talked about.
Kim got one, but I was watchinga thing yesterday and you told
me the stats that there will be.
What was that statistic Alleged?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Allegedly there was a video on Instagram of Elon
saying that, like, in 40 years,there's going to be an
equivalent amount of robots topeople in the world, which I
don't know if that was an AIvideo, because they make those
now.
Yeah, and remember the one youthought Chris was like?
Look at this video the plane.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well, it's scary, though, how much AI is taking
over like everything.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Videos look really real yeah but anyways, there was
a video of him allegedly sayingthat, and I don't know if he
really said that, but but ifthat's true, that's very scary.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
So I was going to watch this show on Netflix the
other day and it was like howthis guy fell in love with his
robot because and we were sayingthat about Kim, like I could
see that.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Kim Kardashian allegedly falling in love with
her robot.
But I think it would becomelike a companion, just like an
assistant.
I think a lot of these peoplehave their assistant and then
they don't celebrities.
They don't need like theirhusband anymore, like Bethany
Frankel.
When we used to watch the showBethany's reality show years ago
, jason Hoppy was like I thoughtthey were so cute together but

(15:57):
she had so many people likefeeding her ego and like doing
what she wants that she didn'tneed.
Like a husband Like you withoutBen would be lost.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, but if you had an assistant.
He's my robot.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, yeah, and I think, like God intends that
marriage to be like yourcounterpart.
Yeah, so if you have this robotthat does all these things for
you, right, and I'm sure, likepeople use other types of
mechanical things to get theirneeds met, I can't imagine that
people don't end up doing weirdthings with robots.
We're going to end this, forsure, but the robot will cook

(16:29):
and clean the house.
And the robot in the Netflixshow or whatever that I was
going to watch, she's like agirl, was it Megan Fox?
No, is there one about her.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, there's one about her and she's like maybe
it is.
It's like a horror movie though.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Maybe it was I movie, though, maybe it was, I don't
think so and it was like hello,mr Spencer, let me do that for
you.
And it looked like Megan fromSuits, you know, in the outfit.
And then it was like he's likeI gotta go, I gotta take the
kids to school.
She's like, mr Spencer, I'lltake the kids to school.
And like they fall in love.
And the robots doing thelaundry, taking the kids to
school, doing homework, yeah.
Doing playing toys with thekids, yeah.

(17:02):
And I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
So then I saw I wouldn't mind the cooking and
the cleaning.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
No, it was amazing on .
Elon talks about how smart therobot is and I was like I would
buy one.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
They're $30,000 yeah, that's a lot of money, but not
that expensive to have a roboteverything done in your home.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, like, think of what you spend on a cleaner
right, think of what you spendon all these things, right, but
then like, are we parentsanymore?
Yeah, it's all.
Good night, lucy.
You know, it's all, dear god,pray for lucy and the math
homework.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'm not.
I'm fine with the robot, therobot's promising ben like ben,
have a good day at work.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
See you in the closet the robot's like.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
the robot doesn't do its chores anymore, it just rubs
its pen.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
How many women?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
would be like the robot's laying there eating
bonbons.
Ben, I'll blow you later if youjust take care of that.
The women are like the robot'son tonight I'm taking a night
off.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
When the girls are on , when they're shark week, the
robot steps in.
Oh I'm crying.
The kids are yelling.
The robot's disciplining them.
Ben's making the robot coffeenow.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
The robot needs coffee.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
The robot's picking up Fox from school yesterday
when he was sick oh gosh, itcould get weird though.
Oh, I'm crying, I'm nervous forthe robots.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I know I don't want a robot, I'm scared, okay I think
you would take one for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
You would be like, well, I don't want one, but I
really don't like doing theseother things that's like cooking
dinner.
The robot can cook dinner.
Imagine the recipes.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, it would be amazing because they could just
like access the internet, mykids would doing these other
things that's true, like cookingdinner.
The robot can cook dinner.
Imagine the rest of bees.
Yeah, it would be amazing.
Yeah, because they could justlike access the internet.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
My kids would be happy.
They're all tacos again.
Have you seen the chip, thebrain chip?
Yeah, it's a little scary, butit was like if everyone has a
brain chip, how do you not haveone?
They're all way smarter, butI'm not getting one.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
If there's any sort of chip that's going in the
brain or the hand, it's a veryred flag for me.
Totally I agree.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Okay, one more thing.
Back to Craig and Paige.
I also wanted to say hearinglike watching their relationship
, paige would.
They would always talk aboutmarriage.
They had, like their kids'names.
Oh yeah, they had all thesethings and I feel like it's such
a relatable thing to theyounger generation.
I would say 25 to 35.
When you're in a relationshipand we've talked about this
before it's better to be firstsingle than like the last one

(19:31):
single, than first one divorced.
So it's better to wait for theright one than it is to just
settle because you're worriedabout being lost to get married.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
And don't play house I think that's the thing you
were saying is, when you'retogether and you're constantly
talking about marriage but it'snot happening, that's kind of a
red flag, and I've hadboyfriends that did that.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
So have I.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
I remember we were at the wedding, the one you and
you jumped out on the freewayand I was with my boyfriend at
the time and during the weddingcause I was in the wedding, so I
was at the head table, so itwas during the reception I was
at a different table Cause itwas like the wedding party.
He was texting me like I can'twait for our wedding and you're
going to be the mother of mychildren and all this stuff, and

(20:11):
in my head I was like oh andthen, but yet he's not proposing
yeah, and Ben and I didn't talkabout that either to Kyle and I
and then he proposed.
So I feel like when they'retalking a lot of talk, it's kind
of and that one still didn'tget married.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
No, so I don't think it was you.
No, it was just that they maybeyou know, and one of my
boyfriends too, that I we talkedabout marriage.
He still didn't get married.
Right?
It's crazy yeah, I just think,if you're talking about it all
the time, do it yeah you don'tneed to talk about it, like
don't talk about the closet,just get doing it.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I remember one time Ben was building a grill.
We were dating and we were likeearly dating, it was probably
like a month or a month and hewas building a grill in his
backyard and he was like wantingme to pick out the stone for
the grill.
And I also was like and I hadalready done that with other
boyfriends where I'm playinghouse, yeah, boyfriends where
I'm playing house and so I waslike, no, I'm not picking out

(21:04):
your stone, pick out your ownstone.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
You don't get my pick out a ring, and then I'll pick
out your stone.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Exactly, you don't get my stone expertise until you
put a ring on it, I'm not goingto just design your stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, that's what happened with Craig and Paige.
She like designed his housewith them because he wanted it
to be their house.
So she like designed, helpedhim design every room, helped
him design every room, helpedhim design the backyard.
They've been doing this foryears.
But he would be like I'm readyto get married and she's like
not yet.
And then on the episode shewould cry and say it's not you,
I'm just not ready to move.
So it made sense, right, but Ithink inside I don't one there's

(21:41):
something holding you back.
With Kyle.
I knew in two weeks he was theone For sure.
It was the clearest thing I'veever known in my life.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
And there was no like red, like no one was holding
back.
I think that's the main thingwhen someone's holding back,
it's weird.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Well, I've told you guys I coach high school girls
and I um, they go through allthe things and I what I find
from when I was in school to now.
The guys have a lot more powerthan they did back when we were
younger.
I think the more that girlsgive everything up so easily.
Sex.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I'm also.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
it's like you and Kyle maybe no, but true, no, but
you're married.
But but true, right, like yeah,so they give it up so the guys
don't have to work at it anymore.
Yeah, I don't know about that,they lose their leverage yeah,
well, and like I can not, I cantalk to you for months, right,

(22:40):
and I don't have to have you bemy girlfriend and you'll still
kiss and do things with me.
I don't have to pay for you atdinner.
I don't have to get you flowerson Valentine's day Cause we're
talking, cause we're talking,but I get to have the call at
the end of the night, thetexting all day, the making out
and doing whatever.
Whereas the girl didn't do that,and was like no, I'm only going

(23:02):
to save that.
Studs, they have their pick,because girls are throwing
themselves at them, right, andthe girls don't realize.
Like, don't give everyone somany chances and be the one that
no one can lock down.
Right, be the special onethat's not easy to get into.
Right, get into pants, get intothe phone, get get the calls
back.
Like make it a little bit morechallenging, be different.
Yes, we were talking about thatin the car.

(23:23):
Like I think it's so easy forgirls to just do what everyone
else is doing, or guys, but moregirls.
I feel like, yeah, and you know, one of my um girls just got
her heart just crushed.
This, like this week, is likeboyfriend of a year.
You know they broke up and he'shanging out with the other
girls and all that, and I I'vebeen there.
It's just a good reminder.

(23:43):
Kyle, on his worst day still isway better than anyone ever has
been.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, and back to what you said about if
everyone's doing it.
That's the talk I had with mydaughter.
She was on TikTok and I waslike I was telling her.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
What'd she do on TikTok?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
She was.
She's going to be really mad,but she doesn't listen.
No, she was.
She's gonna be really mad, butshe doesn't listen.
No, she doesn't listen.
She was.
You know how they do the lipsyncing on TikTok all the
everyone does everyone does it.
It's so stupid.
I think you look like such anidiot yeah, and so go on
American Idol maybe mate or likesomething.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't know.
I don't, yeah, I don't always,unless you're a Montana boy
you're not allowed to lip sync.
That's the only why do theylook so good doing it?
I don't know they're allowedBecause you know why.
The girls want to be the girlhe's talking about, right Like,
if any of these guys sing inBeautiful Crazy to the camera,
I'm like yeah, that's me.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I'm crazy, you know yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Oh, every girl loves that song beautiful right.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
So her and her little girlfriend it was just a
two-second thing and I was.
I said girls, I'm gonna tellyou this because I love you, but
it looks, it just looks needyand weird.
And they both were said to meeveryone does this.
And I said, great, all thosegirls doing it are not happy.
Yeah, not one girl singing onTikTok.
And I could be wrong.

(25:02):
I'm all don't make this a clip,but because people are gonna
come at me, I'm happy and I lipsync on TikTok and I could be
wrong.
I'm all don't make this a clip,but because people are going to
come at me, I'm happy and I lipsync on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, um, not necessarily.
It's like they're looking.
You're looking for likes,you're looking for reposts when
you're internally happy.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
You're not lip syncing on TikTok.
I feel like that's a prettytrue statement.
So I'm trying to tell mydaughter cause I do think she's
happy Don't do that to try to belike everyone else.
And I saw this thing onInstagram and it was so good I
think I reposted on my story forthe jerkies that follow me.
Um, it said we should makethings so one way in like so,

(25:38):
not Christian, but we shouldhave such a high standard, or a
standard that when they see thisstandard of the world, it
stands out as weird, like thefrog effect.
Yes, so like my daughter,seeing all these people sing lip
syncing on Tik TOK, she thinksthat's the norm and it's in.
I want to create such adifferent environment that she
sees it how I see it, how that'sweird, you know, yeah, so but

(26:05):
it's so hard to do.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, I was going to you do that.
I have no idea, let me know.
I go back and forth on all thatsometimes, because you know we
talked about this, where theytalk about banning social media
for kids until they're 16 and Iand we both think it's a great
idea, but we both allow our kidsto have social media right.
So really, what does that sayabout us as?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
parents right, like I need the government to parent
my kids.
Yeah, yeah, and we don't agreewith that.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
But here we are, like they would be, and we both said
it.
It would be easier because thenwe wouldn't be the bad guys for
not allowing it, right?
But I also have the trade offon.
You know, one of myphilosophies in parenting is the
things that my parents made nota big deal Like drinking.
My family's not big drinkers.
Um, my mom's parents wereactually alcoholics, so I think

(26:46):
that created that nextgeneration.
They stayed away from it bigtime because they saw the
negative effects of drinking.
And so my all, my cousins and Inone of us drink, like you know
.
We everybody makes fun.
I have one drink and it's likevery effective to me, right,
cause I don't drink a lot.
Um, and I think we're a littleallergic.
Like my heart rate slows down.
I don't love the feeling, right, kelly, my cousin has the same.

(27:09):
It does something weird to our,like blood.
But my parents didn't make itlike this big thing.
It wasn't like every nightgoing out, don't drink, you know
, it wasn't this thing, it wasjust like drinking is kind them.
My mom and dad would drink onholidays.
They would have like one or twoglasses of wine, and I remember
it's funny, right, and I talkedabout it.
This Thanksgiving I said on thepodcast my mom was drunk and I

(27:30):
felt like it was kind of anegative.
But like my mom's drunk is twodrinks Right, it's not like it's
, it's just not a big thing.
And growing up I was neveraround it, um, but I I never
became a big drinker.
Like I had my year in collegethat I drank a lot and went to
the bars and I talked about that.
But other than that, I remembercoming home 21, and my mom knew
and she was like go to bed,you're whacked.

(27:52):
Like it wasn't like what didyou have to drink?
And I almost like because itdidn't get any attention, I was
like, well, this is dumb, right,because I think kids, naturally
you want a reaction sometimes,but my, you know the not growing
up in church it was very pushedto not have sex till you're
married.
It was seriously in junior highand the first couple years in

(28:13):
the youth group I swear everyweek they told us wait till
you're married, abstinence,abstinence, which is beautiful,
I agree, but I found that and myparents that was like a big one
, like don't have sex tillyou're married, which I
completely agree with, and youknow I was.
I am lucky that I had so many.
You know I followed it the bestI could and um going on with

(28:33):
your eye there yeah, I do wantto be honest, you know, let's be
honest, you know.
but, um, I that was the thingthat I think it made it more
forgiven, more forbidden, eveneating disorders.
I feel like they used to showus videos when I was young, in
health and like in elementaryschool, about gymnasts with
eating disorders or kids witheating disorders.

(28:53):
I wouldn't even know what thatwas if they weren't like telling
me about it.
Right, you know, they were likedon't do this, and then I was
like, oh well, that girl didthat.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
So you're saying when something's talked about
forbidden, so much it makes it.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
you want to do it, it gives you the idea of it, you
know, and I think sex, the morethey talked about sex, the more
it was like um, you know, I, alot of us in youth group, were
really good, but we um, somepeople I know, didn't wait until
they were married.
You know, and that was one ofthe things, whereas, like a
friend of mine's mom was like,hey, if you're going to do it,
let me know, we'll get you thethings.

(29:23):
She was like not doing it.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Right, never doing it .
I think it's different forevery person, because I feel
like my two kids that havesocial media are very different.
One is very on it I have to belike put it down and then one is
not really on it that often andis more doing other things.
So I think it just just dependson the kids too, sometimes.
Yeah, because I feel like Ihave the same approach with both

(29:46):
.
You don't think so?
Not at all.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Really Not at all.
It's way more forbidden withone.
Really, yeah, a hundredthousand percent.
I would say that Because,because, from a young age
they're on it so much.
No, but I think back then itwas like you never thought you
were going to give your kidssocial media.
You were very anti.
I mean, it's the oldest, so youhave like a stronger.
No, we're not doing this, we'renot doing this.
I think when he wanted to, itwas like no, we're not doing

(30:11):
this, we're not doing this,we're not having the phone.
He was older to have the phoneeven so.
I think it was naturally just amore forbidden thing.
But I do think it's hispersonality.
Yeah, um, to be more addicted tothose things.
Yeah, but I think at the sametime, I wouldn't say it was
equal.
Yeah, one was totally like.
Yeah, you know, but they alsolearn that because you can trust

(30:32):
more.
But I think, innately, we don'trealize and I and I say this
with Kai to my husband always wealways don't realize the things
that we are like, accidentally,like doing, like, even in
sports psychology, it's superimportant in parenting, but it's
so important to say what to do,not what not to do, right, so
like, don't look over there,don't look over there, right,

(30:54):
all you want to do is look overthere when we say don't in our
minds, we want to do it RightInstead of like, especially some
people that are more rebelliouslike me, who I'm not standing
in the lines, you tell me not todo something, don't touch it,
it's hot bears like that,burning my hand.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I have to explain to him why I'm telling him
something, because if he thinksthat we're just saying don't, he
wants to do it.
But if I explain the reasoningand he buys in, yes, then he
will, and my husband is.
He's very big on not.
His parents didn't explain yeah,no is no because I said no
because I said and I'm likegreat, but he's gonna do it
because he thinks you're justtelling him.

(31:28):
No, I don't like to feelcontrol, that's how bear is and
so.
But for me, if I explain, hey,and he's like, oh yeah, that
makes sense, then he won't do it.
Yeah, because he doesn't wantto do something wrong.
Yeah, but he just has tounderstand.
I'm kind of like that if I thinka rule's stupid, I'm doing.
I'm like that's stupid.
I'm kind of like that.
If I think a rule is stupid,I'm doing.
I'm like that's stupid.
Like I'm not wearing the mask.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Cause.
I know it doesn't work, youknow.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
But if I think a rule is like for safety and it's
real, then I'll do it yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
And I just think.
Sometimes it's like I don'tknow.
I don't know, We'll see howthis all pans out, but I go and
once she's on her own, do I wanther then to learn the rules of
social media or the consequences?
I would rather her makemistakes in my house, where I
can save her from them a littlebit more than when they're fully

(32:13):
independent you know.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
So that's kind of why I gave social media, because I
wanted to be able to workthrough the issues that would
come up together, but I don'talways know if that's right.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I don't know.
You know, like when I'magreeing with the government,
like maybe they should take itaway, I don't know.
Yeah.
It's all hard.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's all hard.
Well, there's some studies likedone on like what it does to
your brain and I think that liketheir brains aren't formed yet
fully to be able to handle it,and that's stuff I do agree with
, but it's hard yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I know I agree, yeah, so, anyways, so, anyways.
So we went on our trips.
We went to skiing we were goingto talk about that too.
Oh yeah, that was fun.
Um, we go on this trip everyyear and it's funny.
We like to tell everyone.
You know, we're like, whenwe're going to somewhere fun,
I'm like really excited, right,or somewhere new, you know, or

(33:07):
like we go to Tahoe every summerAgain, both of us not that I'm
justifying it, but we didn't goon a lot of trips growing up.
I love you mom, but we went tothe casino.
That's where we went with myfamily, and I love the casino
still, but, um, we so trips arejust a big thing.
Traditional trips, yearly trips, are a big thing for both of us
.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, we're big on traditions, making memories.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yes, and so we go on the ski trips.
So we've gone.
This is our third year.
We used to go to the cabin withus and our other best friend
and we skied in Flag and otherplaces.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Stupid yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
So it's not our favorite.
Like Tisha hates the cold, weboth don't ski.
I have bad knees.
She doesn't love it.
And then we stay in the.
You know, we just chill outwhile the boys take the kids.
The kids come back crying.
It's a very like not laying onthe beach with margaritas kind
of trip.
No, no, but we're learning, yes, and why we do this is you know

(34:03):
, we ski all day.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
It's awful, yeah, and they literally cry and complain
.
We've the first day.
We usually throw them in skischool or a lesson the second
day, which?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
is a million dollars, a million dollars.
So they were mad about it, thattheir attitude about it sucks
because it's a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's like as they're getting ready in the morning,
we're beating them Like it's awhole thing.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Not really beating.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
No, yeah, no, yeah.
And so this this year I do feellike we turned a corner, yeah,
where the kids actually enjoyedit.
Yeah, and it was reallyexciting and it was so funny
because when we were gettingready the first morning, bear
was putting on his bib and hegoes.
This is my favorite trip wetake and I was shocked because

(34:41):
I'm thinking I take youeverywhere.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, and they're you were just in the Bahamas.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Right, yeah, and this is your favorite trip, because
it's just not my favorite.
But it was cool that, and we'veboth said we want our kids to
know how to ski and snowboard,because we both learned later in
life and it's horrible to learnas an adult.
So it was just.
It was so interesting to methat, of all the places we've
gone, these are his favoritetrips.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Right, and it's not like relaxing and fun all the
time.
It's like a very they're, likewe're making him go back out, oh
, but him and Ben are fightingthe whole time, yeah, yeah.
But it was just a good reminderthat if we listen to our kids
because I do I fall into it.
I listen to him Totally Onprobably 80% of the things, yes,
and then I'll remember not tolisten to them and then I'll get
smart on 20%, right?

(35:26):
So even probably both of uswere both going.
Do we do this trip anymore?
They're not really excited.
I'm not excited, right.
The dads aren't excited becausethey have to take them all day.
It's expensive, yes, and it'slike every day.
If you would ask, do you?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
have to go.
They came in for lunch becausewe make lunch in the room and
they were crying we don't wantto go back out and we were
kicking them out, yeah, go back.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
And Kyle's like, let's go right now.
And then the next day we're atlunch and they we asked them
what their highs were.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Highs and lows.
Yeah, highs and lows.
We always ask them of the trip,not the first year, yeah, so
finally, another thing issometimes you don't get the
instant gratification of thelessons that you're teaching,
but then later on they'll thankyou, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
So we both did swim lessons.
My family is a big on swimlessons.
It's like swim doc.
My mother-in-law has a licenseplate that says swim doc.
She taught swim lessons.
Our extended family teachesswim lessons.
It's like our family is big onswim lessons.
Yeah, so when I first wasengaged to Kyle, my nephew was
like four.
And they're like you got to gethim in swim lessons and I'm

(36:35):
like no one has a pool, what'sthe big deal?
And they're like does he swim?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Like everyone, learns to swim at one in your family,
oh yeah, nine, 10 months.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
They're kicking to the side and I was like no, so I
bring my.
I'm like Allie, mymother-in-law can get you in
these swim lessons.
I'm still trying to like winher over.
Yeah, so my sister-in-law saidokay, well, can you take them,
cause they worked.
And I was like sure.
So I put them in the car.
We have to go to the bathroom.
We get to, you know my a weirdlook.
I'm like that's not allowed.
No, yeah, I had no idea.

(37:04):
I didn't have kids yet.
I was like 26 and I'm like okay, george, I'm going to the
bathroom, I'll see you soon.
And I'm getting a weird look byeverybody.
So I get back and they're allswimming and kicking and we walk
out there.
Everyone's screaming,everyone's screaming.
Every kid is crying the wholetime.
Back then, the lesson was likean hour because they did it
different.
I remember.
So I'm seeing all these kidsjust screaming.

(37:24):
My mother-in-law's doing allthese things to the kids and my
nephew starts seeing the kidsscreaming.
Imagine, as adults.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Well, as you're walking up to the house, you
hear from outside, you hearscreaming and crying and it's
kind of like the kids start toslow down, like naturally we
shouldn't go into the burninghouse, no, right.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
So we get out there.
Jordan starts grabbing my legbecause all the kids are
screaming.
Right, the water is not superwarm, no, but this time.
So I'm like, okay, so we'rejust I'm just hugging him
sitting on the side, and shecomes over with her hat.
You know it's your turn.
So I'm like, okay, jordan, gowith Bonnie.
And he like won't let go.
And I'm like, no, no, no, I gowith funny.
So she grabs him and just dunkshim in the water, blows in his

(38:06):
mouth, dunks him in the water.
He's screaming, yeah.
So now he's screaming and I'mhis aunt and I'm like, what is
she doing to him?
She's dunking him, dunking himand then making him kick to the
side.
He's screaming.
So he gets to with his lessonand he comes running to me.
I hug him, I'm holding him thewhole time.
So then it, it's his turn.
Again he's gripping me, she'strying to grab him for his turn
and I'm like, no, no, no.
So he goes.

(38:27):
I don't make him swim in thetomb in between the lessons.
Oh, shoot.
So this happens for three weeks, three or four weeks.
You do this lesson.
So every day I pick him up forswim lessons.
He's crying when he comes to me.
The whole drive there, ryan,he's crapping himself one day in
.
I'm like the swim diapers on,he's crapping himself.

(38:48):
I'm like Bonnie, can I use thebathroom?
She's like you're not allowedto use the bathroom.
I'm her family, it's going tobe.
You're not allowed to use thebathroom and swim lessons.
If they have to crap themselves, they go in the rocks and you
hose them off and I'm like thisis like kid bootcamp.
I'm not a mom, this is'mcommitted.
I can't not go every day.
Jordan doesn't want to go everysingle day.
He's crying.
He doesn't want to go.
Four weeks in the last week thekids are crying hysterical and

(39:11):
she tells them she's staying inthe pool, go.
It's the craziest thing,because toddlers, you can't get
them to listen to you for wortha darn themselves on the ground.
She tells him go and pointsfrom the water that my nephew
will walk over, gets on thediving bird.
She says, go.
He runs crying the whole time.
Then she'll tell him to wave.
They wave at you while they'recrying.

(39:32):
I know it's no one's makingthem.
It's like the craziest thing,yeah.
And they jump off the divingboard and swim to the side.
Yeah.
So then on the last day, youknow they do all the things she
throws them in they swim to tothe side, they walk.
She doesn't even help them.
They're trained.
They walk, they jump off thediving board, swim to the side
and they get an otter pop at theend and when you leave they're

(39:53):
on cloud nine.
Oh yeah, by the end the lastlesson, he's like did you see me
?
Did you see me?
Because he's so proud ofhimself for facing his fear,
jumping off the diving board andswimming to the side.
Yeah, and it's literally thecraziest thing you ever see,
because you see these kids gofrom screaming every day to like
never seeing a four-year-old bemore proud of himself, right,
and it's just like a smallexample of, like what we steal

(40:16):
from them if we don't keeppushing.
Yeah, you know all the things.
Like our kids cried and screamedevery day, every year for this
ski lesson and I guarantee, justlike my husband, they're going
to make their kids go on thisski trip.
Oh for sure, you know, because,kyle, it was like the thing.
They went on the ski trip,right, so now we go on the ski
trip, but like what other thingsdo we rob ourselves or our kids

(40:37):
from by not pushing through thescreaming or the crying or the
things we don't want to do.
You know, like every timethere's a dinner or something,
tisha doesn't like meeting newpeople, really Hate it.
So every time she'll call me.
I don't want to go to thisstupid thing and I'm like you're
going to be fine, da, da, da.
And after she's like oh my God,we had the best time.
I love Shirley Shirley's, mybest friend.
Yeah, other things do we dothat we just like, when we have

(41:07):
our first pot podcast, go viral,our first clip, and you want to
quit the whole day.
What are the things?
Are we not pushing?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
through.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
I know, I know so now , what things are you gonna make
yourself?
Do like go to Chino today pushthrough.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
I don't know if I can push through.
It was Chino.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Venditto is so good yeah, okay, two more things.
I'll talk about Blake Lively.
Oh my goodness, yeah.
What's your stance on this?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I don't know.
I don't want to say it becauseI'm going to get just lit up.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I don't love blake lively and I see, I love her and
I still think the whole thing'sweird.
I don't know what the truth is.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I don't know what the truth is either, because
there's a lot well both sidesare attacking, now he's
countersuing.
Yeah he's releasing the textmessages that say she wouldn't
meet with the intimacycoordinator Really.
So she said that he Right.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
She had to implement it because he wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yes, and then he went to the intimacy coordinator
without her and then he releasedtext message proof that he said
let's meet and she said I don'tneed to.
So then he had to meet with theintimacy coordinator without
her.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Oh my goodness, this thing need to.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
so then he had to meet with the intimacy
coordinator without her.
Yes, so then, oh my goodness.
So then I know.
So I don't know who to believe.
I think it was clearly they hadan issue together, but I don't
know.
Everybody's rallying behindBlake Lively, though, but I
don't know if.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I don't know.
See, I've had some podcasts.
One of the girls is like I, shewas like a producer and she's
like I've never seen morechemistry between two people.
So she thinks it's like acloset, like oh, really feelings
or something.
Yeah, I mean I don't know, butthat's what she said.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
She like does this, but like everybody's supporting
Blake and no one's supportinghim.
So then I think that's kind ofweird.
I'm like is he a jerk?
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Are they just supporting herbecause it's Blake Lively and no
one wants to get on her badside?
Yeah or are they, or is hereally like a jerk to everybody?
And now they're finally likefinally, I don't know, I know.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
I know, when I read her things I was kind of like,
oh, maybe he gets away with itand she's going to put a stop to
it.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I just don't love her .
So it's hard for me, see, and Ireally do Really.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, but you were doing her hair like her.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Well.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
I love her so good Best book we've ever read.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
It ends with us.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
And I'm excited for Verity.
You know, when she kills him,what was that?
When she shoves the thing downthe throat and like, kills her.
No, is that how she kills her?
Yeah, at the end she shovesstuff down the throat.
Oh, I don't even remember.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Like yeah, oh yeah, I think they Paul and Hoover the
best books I know.
I think they cast Anne Hathawayin that.
I know it's going to be so good.
I feel like that was reallygood casting.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, it ends with us .

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Maddie wants to read it and they did good for this
one too, except not Blake Lively.
Again, she's way too old toplay Lily, like the girl's 23.
Oh, I thought it was amazing.
Blake Lively's not 23.
It's like me thinking I'm 23.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I'm not guy they cast for Atlas, because in the book
I wasn't team Atlas.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I was kind of mopey, and then they cast that guy from
1923 and I'm obsessed with himand I was like that was great oh
.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
I don't even know him and I was obsessed with him.
Oh, they did such a good job.
He still got for break lively,even though I know yeah, so I
feel like who knows who knows,but calling him over, you just
never know Tisha likes readingthose books because she does
like she gets her robot out andthen that's so dumb, I do not.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
You read those books, rabbit me yeah, she's got a
rabbit.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I do not, I don't read the books more than you and
I don't have my gosh.
She makes us read the mostinappropriate books for book
club.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I made one inappropriate book.
It was awful, the uncle he'slike yeah, my, my niece gonna it
was.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
It was awful and you're like it's a good book.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I'm like I need church.
If anyone out there has readCredence, it's awful.
It's awful.
Don't read it if you haven't.
It's awful.
It's so weird and dark andsomeone recommended it and then
I read it and I will never bethe same.
It was really gross.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I that book was concerning I know Colleen Hoover
is so good.
I'm reading a new one of hersright now and it's so good.
Okay, last thing I wanted totalk about today was that, mel
Robbins.
If you guys don't follow her,she's like a motivational person
.
I don't know where she reallycomes from.
Did you know that Dr Phil haslike a doctorate in like
mechanics?
No, okay, that's wrong.

(44:59):
What does Dr Phil have adoctorate in?
It's something weird and I'msick of saying incorrect things
on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, she says incorrect things and then we
have to edit them out afterbecause she doesn't want to look
stupid.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Okay, I was wrong, it's in clinical psychology.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Oh, so like totally his field, like the exact field
that he does, good thing Ilooked into that.
Oh my God, it's like the exactthing that he does.
Good thing, I looked into that.
Oh my God, it's like the exactthing that he does.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Oh my gosh.
It just goes to show how stupidthe internet is.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Oh yeah, did someone tell you that he did it?
Yeah, it was like a post Goshall the things we're saying are
incorrect.
Oh, shoot Okay.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
But Mel Robbins is posting this new book.
I just listened to it on JamieLene Kerna.
Oh yeah, it Cosmetics how doyou say her name?
Yeah, yeah, she's my favorite,absolutely love her.
So she was on her podcast and Ilistened to a lot of podcasts
and, um, it was this whole newtheory that's out there.
It's a really good book.
I think I'm going to read thebook too, but it's called let

(45:59):
them I'll let you read it andfill me in.
I know I wanted to send you thepodcast but I knew you wouldn't
listen.
But it's super interesting.
It's about like, obviously weall know to let people do what
they want and not let it affectyou, but the way she like gives
examples of it, it really makesyou like yeah, you're right.
How stupid are we all that welet what other people are doing
affect us so much?

(46:20):
Right, like a few weeks agowhen Tisha said nasty things
about me.
I should just let her, becauseher opinion isn't my business.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
That's so rude, really rude, not real.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
No this is made up.
She did, but I should let youLike why do I care what you
think about me?
It's not my problem if youthink I'm like that, but why,
like other things, like evenwith Kyle Kyle does this thing.
My husband, he bites his nails.
It's his nails, it's like nailson a chalkboard.
For me it completely like yournails are so dirty and then

(46:50):
you're eating them, then you'reswallowing them, then I'm gonna
kiss you.
It like grosses me out so bad.
Yeah, my brother used to doweird things to me, like hot
glugies on me and stuff.
So like my brother bit hisnails and I have like this whole
thing.
It triggers me into like a darkplace.
So I've asked him please don'tbite your nails in front of I
don't care if you bite them onyour own.
It just when I'm seeing it it'slike, but he won't stop biting

(47:10):
his nails Right and like, lethim.
But let him.
Like I need to just let it go.
Dishes in the sink.
He's a big, let's soak things.
I don't like things to soak inthe sink, right, it's just
soaking in dirty water.
Let's just clean it and put itaway.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I think that's a good thing for parenting is let them
, because I think so many timeswe want to do it our way or save
them, and not let them do ittheir way, because I'll have my
kids do something and it's notthe way I would want it done.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yes, and let them do it.
Yes, and that's what MelRobbins explained in her.
The whole reason she got tothis theory is her son was going
to prom and her girls and Icould relate to this because my
son is very that way right, butthe girls were so planned in
their plans.
They she knew the info a monthbefore.
She knew that house they werehaving dinner at, she knew who
the girl was going with, sheknew what was happening after.

(48:00):
And so it's like the day beforeprom and her son's like, yeah,
I think I am gonna go right.
And so she got a text.
And then he's like, yeah, Ithink I'm gonna ask the girl.
So they'd like figure out howto ask the girl.
And then she had to get theseshoes.
She had to overnight himbecause he wanted these shoes at
the last minute, so it wasaffecting her, his last
minute-ness.
But then the day of the prom,they're at taking pictures and
everything, and she's like whereyou guys going for dinner?
And he's like, oh, I don't know, it's prom night.

(48:23):
They're at the thing andthey're like where do you guys
want to go?
And they're like I don't know.
So she wanted to like save themby like finding a place,
calling seeing if they could allget in, and she's like no, I
need to, just you know whatever.
And then, like it's not the wayI would do it.
But whatever, it was startingto rain and where they were
going to go was outside, whichis normal.
I would be like no, you guyscan't go there.
The girl's hair is going to getwet, the dresses are going to

(48:44):
be ruined.
That's a rented tux, it's goingto cost us money.
And her daughter reaches overto her and said mom, let them.
And that's where it like hit.
She ended up letting him go tothe outside dinner.
She's like okay, so they hadthe best time.
It was memories that madeforever.
They all ate outside, theydanced, wet all the things.
And she's like I just realizedhow many other things do we do

(49:05):
where we don't just let them?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
How many other things do we do where we don't just
let them.
So I I agree with that.
But then I also have.
So, for example, the other daymy oldest um he has fifth period
um, weight weight training forfootball and they're working out
really hard right now Cause nowthey're getting ready for next
season.
So it's like the first day back, super hard workout.
So in the morning he had a bowlof cereal.

(49:29):
Then he went to school.
I picked him up.
He was like oh, so that night Imade dinner.
We were going to a movie.
He didn't eat dinner before themovie and I was like oh, are you
going to eat before or after?
He's like I'll eat after.
So we go to the movie.
He had popcorn and an icy.

(49:50):
We come home and he's like I'mgonna go to bed and I'm I'm
thinking you didn't eat dinner.
And I said, honey, you'reworking out so hard like you're
not fueling your body.
I said all you had was a bowlof cereal and then lunch.
And then he goes I didn't eatlunch, I go what you didn't eat
lunch, why not?
He forgot to.
Oh, so he said I forgot to.
Oh, so he said I forgot to.
I'm thinking that's weird, butanyways.
So you had a bowl of cereal at6 o'clock in the morning and

(50:13):
then you had popcorn and an Icyfor dinner and you're working
out and so naturally, I'm likeyou need to feel your body,
you're not going to be at youroptimal, like it's not healthy.
You're growing.
You need to nourish your body,you need to have real food.
That's both of those are crap,you know, and I'm fine with the
crap, but you got to get thegood stuff in there too.
So I'm like you need to eatdinner.

(50:35):
So do you think I just let himnot eat and just but like that's
not building healthy habits?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
You can't make him build healthy habits, you can
advise him.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Well, well, you can instill them when they're young.
Like Ben's parents made him eatevery meal and he has like the
healthiest eating habits ever.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, but they live that way, Like where do you
think he's getting sour patchand popcorn from?

Speaker 2 (50:56):
No, it was an Icy and popcorn.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
That's your favorite thing, well, that's fine.
At the theater, I'm saying,though, he's going to pick up on
your habits that are instilledat the home.
Making him well, he's gonnaresent you more by making it.
Not do it, because you'reforcing it.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I would just keep reminding him.
Well, should we make him eat adinner?
Ben's parents made him eat adinner that he made.
I always make my kids eat whatI make.
That's what.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I'm saying I always like you have to eat dinner,
yeah, but like, if I don't know,he got home and wanted to go to
bed.
Let him go to bed and wake upfeeling like crap, yeah, let the
reality of his choices be.
He's not five.
Yeah, like he's 16 now.
So I think, like at this pointwe have to let him yeah, if he
was five, make him eat thedinner.
Yeah, but like, okay, you'renot gonna eat the dinner we made

(51:34):
, we're not making you anythingelse so you can go to bed hungry
, right, but you can't sit thereand be like open up, right,
like make someone force feed at16.
There's no way.
Yeah, like you could be, likeyou're gonna feel like crap.
Let him feel like crap a littlebit.
Yeah, let him like see whatthat's going to be like and then
I think he'll buy in more.
Yeah, but I think advising andteaching what you're doing is
great.
I don't think all parentsexplain why?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, it's not to be controlling, it's because you
work out and you got it Exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I think that's smart, like I think that helps a lot
to explain his best on his ownRight.
But you can make it for, likeyou do you get him protein
shakes and you do those things,yeah, and I think.
But I think with that one,especially at his age, I feel
like you have to like startletting go at this age, right,

(52:20):
because if he does go away tocollege, you're not going to
make him be there to eat yourfood, but like he has a dad that
he can follow and learn and youguys are like a healthy family.
So I think there's more inthere than you think, and I do
sometimes think he does thatjust to like do it, yeah, just
to catch it.
So you're winning by doing it,not giving it the eat, and like
sitting and having that wholetalk, it's also time you're

(52:41):
spending with him, right, soLike he's getting attention in a
negative way.
So maybe when he sits at dinnerand eats at dinner, we give
attention that way, yeah,because we all do things for a
reason.
Yeah, there's always a reasonyeah, so sometimes I think he
likes not intentionally, but Ithink he does things just to
kind of yeah, have a say yeah.
Yeah, and like make a wave, yeah, in a weird way.

(53:02):
Yeah, okay, cool, go to bed.
It's like you took the poweraway, yeah, and then like, when
he's starving, be like Icouldn't believe it.
I'm like you gotta eat, youknow?
Yeah, I think that's normal.
I think all parents want Ithink that's normal, yeah, and
like Ben lives like that.
But I think you don't realizehow much he knows.
But he knows he just just likethe breakfast.
When kids don't want to eatbreakfast, broxton all of a
sudden doesn't want to eatbreakfast.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Don't eat breakfast then yeah, knock yourself out,
you'll be hungry.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
And, yeah, it's better to do it.
But, like they're getting older, I think that's a hard thing
these days is like figuring outwhat to let go of.
Yeah, like it's hard for me tobe like is this something I
should fight?
Is this something I should letgo of?
But I think we all do betterthan we think we're doing.
Yeah, I think we just alwaysthink I do, I always think I'm
doing, I could do better at allthings well, that's what Ben

(53:46):
makes things that are like a onea ten and I'm like you can't
make everything a one yeah, likeagain, if they don't want to
eat, whatever.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
But there's gonna be a ten and we've had a couple
tens.
Let's make the ten a ten andmake the one a one, because, yes
, if you're always tune us outif everything's gonna be a ten,
then they're just gonna be likeoh, this is stupid, I'm getting
yelled at you, you know, or?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
but the beauty is that's our biggest issue with a
16 year old.
Hallelujah.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
That's like you're doing a good job.
Yeah, see what a good friend Iam.
No, I think that all things,though like even um, I was.
I learned a lot from thepodcast cause I listen and I was
talking about how you know,with work, I've never really let
go before this last year.
I've never really given so manyclients away where I really
didn't monitor everything thatwas happening.

(54:31):
Like I noticed everybody writesoffers without asking me, like
it used to be.
Like what do you think I shouldgo in at Like, and now I like
I'm so glad I let go because I,if I wouldn't have been in that
fog, I don't think I would havelet go and I don't no one needs
me as much as I thought they did, which is a blessing.
No, but like, yeah, you're good,I don't need to babysit, I

(54:52):
don't need, I need to let themlike, let them learn, and I was.
I'm watching this new show onNetflix.
I love all the real estateshows and it's selling the city
and it's like a team leadertalking about how important it
is to let the new team membersfail.
Yeah, and I think we talkedabout that video clip about
letting people fail is the best.
Fail is the best way to learn.

(55:13):
But I think with our kids orwith anything, it's so hard for
my team.
I want to always you guys feelsuccess.
I want you to feel success, youknow, but like, let them like.
Let's all try to let them dosomething this week.
Let people talk about you.
Let them talk bad about us onTikTok.
Let them just let them.
Yeah, because we only havecontrol over ourselves and the

(55:34):
more time and energy we spend onfeeling that, the less time and
energy is taken away from us bywhat people say about us.
What other people do you know?
Totally, kyle, let them.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Let him do what he wants.
Bite his nails.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Good luck.
Let them let him bite his nailsgood luck, yeah.
Anyways, she said that asadults, you can't talk an adult
into something, and I think as a16 year old, we're bordering on
yeah, I don't think he's gonnalisten.
Anyways, he has to learn forhimself.
All right, that's it jerkingaround.
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