Dancing With the Devil on Chesapeake Bay Bridge

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Harold Yate's storytelling shines as he recounts legendary firehouse pranks that built brotherhood – from rookies being duct-taped to beds and hoisted up hose towers to the infamous Lucky Charms marshmallow theft that still causes hurt feelings years later. You'll laugh out loud at his misadventures, including an ill-fated dance on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge at midnight (a federal offense) and a catastrophic experiment with a runaway truck ramp that left a passenger with wet pants and a permanently damaged friendship.

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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Music All right guys.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Welcome back to another episode.
Today we are going back intothe world of fire.
We've had enough policeshenanigans for a little while,
so I figured I'd give you abreak.
We've got myself, and t-dot iswith us.
Doug's in the background overhere, karen's here, karen's here
.
Man, we've got forest back withus.
If you've not seen his episodeor listened to his episode it's

(00:57):
a good episode go back and checkit out honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Honestly, I don't remember what number it was, or
what the title was, or what thetitle is so just go pick one.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Just listen to it.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
But Forrest also has one of his friends with him, and
he'll be the main attractionfor this evening's episode.
It'll be Harold Yates.
Harold, how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Good, thank you, nice to meet all you guys.
Can't see you, harold Yates.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
We've got faces for radio.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Tell us a little bit about where you came from, what
your background is, Firedepartment-wise.
I was born into a firedepartment family.
My dad, all my brothers at onetime.
They were back in the days whenvolunteers were big in small
towns and my dad always aimed meto go to the paid side and you
know where we lived was allrural.
So I went to the city to get ajob and spent 28 years in the

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city of Louisville and 32 yearsin the county as paid fireman.
So most firemen work 24 48.
I did a 36 on and a 36 off,basically to pay into my pension
double oh yeah stingy reasons,but still it worked out for me
the best that's a pretty goodschedule though.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, not bad it was.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
It was.
It worked for me.
It was getting long sometimes,but definitely panned out for me
in the end there's not a lot ofsleep up there.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Is there, I mean that 36.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
You was probably hopping uh, in the city big time
.
Yeah, the city was uh.
I was fortunate as young andgetting out of drill school I
went straight to the west end,which is our busy end of town,
so I stayed in one house.
I chose not to take promotionsafter my second year.
I took them once and I stayedin the same house for 28 years

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in the west end of louisville,which is a little bit rare
there's only a few people I knowthat have done it, so I always
consider myself lucky.
They never messed with me andleft me alone.
So I got to see and do a lot ofwork.
I was very fortunate.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, normally.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
I'll tell you how busy his house was.
I took an overtime day downthere and during the night I
went to bed.
Those guys were all sitting upand they were playing cards and
in that night I made three.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh, a ball bat and a house fire.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
We didn't come back, we didn't get in bed.
30 minutes later we were up.
I don't think that was thatuncommon for them, but I
remember when I left that pointI said I will never be back here
again.
It didn't seem to phase any ofthem.
That was just the weirdestthing about that.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
The pistol weapon was too firm and it didn't seem to
phase any of them.
That was just the weirdestthing about that.
The pistol weapon was toofireman, it wouldn't even run.
It was done right there in thefirehouse.
We still count that because weneeded an ambulance.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
What is?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
wrong with you guys.
We never ever did that kind ofstuff.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
You know the ends of town are all different, but when
you're young, I wanted to beable to be busy, so I got very
busy.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, you're lucky in the fact that a lot of times in
our type of profession, if youdon't take know you take, don't
take promotions when they'reoffered to you, it kind of kind
of creates a you know a littlebit of butt hurt on the admin
side yeah, it can.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Uh, you know our department was big and the
opportunities were wide open.
I took a test my first coupleyears and I did fairly well and
I got scared to death and Inever took another one.
I knew it wasn't, it justwasn't for me.
You know, in the county I'dcome out with much slower.
When I worked my second day Iwas in the county very slow
night into town so I got to seereal busy and then I go to super

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nice in the town whereeverybody bought your lunch and
treated you great.
So I got both sides of theworld, you know.
So I felt fortunate.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Wow, that's the difference, I guess.
So you had both those jobs atthe same time.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I did.
I did.
They both paid into.
At the time our state, thestate of Kentucky, allowed you
to work and you could work asmany as you wanted it, put as
many hours in to build yourpension right and that was my
whole purpose.
I thought I tell everybody Iworked a little bit harder, not
smarter.
Instead of getting promoted, Iworked a couple jobs and I added

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in my pension that way.
I just told the difference Ihad but, like I said, in the end
, my pension that way, insteadof moving up to the ladder and
making money that way, I justsold the different paths but,
like I said, in the end mypension was.
I'm very fortunate, very luckyfor it.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Did Louisville have their own, or were they putting
into the state as well?

Speaker 4 (06:18):
State hazardous duty which was rated In the United
States.
We were rated number one for 15years running in pensions wow,
that's impressive yeah, yeah, sowe being forced to have a
pension that's basicallypriceless and and that started
shortly after we both got in.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
They had a different, different pension a few years
before we got in do you guys,you guys care to adopt me.
That's probably in the samepicture.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well, I'm in the tier one as well.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah yeah, it was your high three years, didn't
matter how you built your highthree.
So I worked two jobs and then Iwent 48 in the end.
My last three years I workedaround the clock.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
And I guess with that .

Speaker 4 (07:08):
That turned out even better for me.
I got divorced.
That was nice.
A lot of things fell in linefor me.
You know, all in good favor.
That tends to happen.
I got divorced too, when youretired, though, did you stay

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out or did you come back?
When I retired, I came back toa 24-hour job, and I realized
very shortly after it was notfor me, and I left that job
because I'd worked for thatdepartment forever.
They took me back.
I stayed about a year left, andthen I went to a small
department in my county whereone of our old buddies was the

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fire chief for a much smaller,really slow, prominent end of a
county.
A lot of wealth, so we don't doanything.
But I mainly stayed in therebecause I want a company on the
side, and all my records stayedin the state pension board uh,
my training records right so itreally benefited me from my side
company I built okay, Iunderstand that yeah, so it was.

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Uh, I'll tell you, I've worked alot of hours, but I feel very
fortunate in the end I guessthat helps you with that.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Them trying to pension spike you too if you're
working two jobs rather thantaking a promotion.
Well, they didn't.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Nowadays, the younger guys, they will hit you with
spiking, and spiking under thestate isn't really because you
have two jobs.
Spiking is when believe it, itor not, at the state level.
Um, if you say you're in asmall town and your brother's uh
, the chief, and you're thedeputy chief in your last three

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years, he decides to give you ahundred thousand dollar rate.
Yeah, out of the blue, that'swhat they declare spiking.
Two jobs were never declaredspiking because you were
actually working the hours.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Right.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
But during COVID they did go after a lot of people
spiking because they had so muchovertime, because so many
people were taking off.
So a lot of guys got spikingjust because they took overtime.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, and I see that because I got flagged for
spiking but I I got a prettygood raise at the end, not
because I was smart or anything,it was because I got promoted
to interim chief, so that so Igot put on a like a flag for for

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that until they were you knowable to verify that.
So it was kind of it's kind ofa weight.
And then I got a little wereyou know able to verify that, so
it was kind of it's kind of await, and then I got a little
bump, you know, a couple monthslater, which was okay, I would
like to get a huge bump, but youknow it's what it was yeah,
they used to not even look atthat and that's still not fair.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
You know, if you're working one job and you get
promotions, they shouldn't.
The state became unfair whenthey realized these guys are
winning.
I think they started looking atthings.
That just wasn't fair.
Spiking it's an easy definitionand, like I said, spiking is
when somebody does it for yourlast three years and you can
prove it.
It shouldn't be a promotion andor work.

(10:19):
It doesn't matter if you work.
It's not matter if you work twoor three jobs.
I worked seven days a week inthe end, so my pension was as
big as I could get it.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Absolutely, and that makes sense.
It does as long as you've gotthe like in our case, in police
case.
If you can go back and look,say, not only was he out working
, working his overtime working,federal overtime working, he's
got the cases and the citationsto prove that too.

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So it was hard for him to say,well, he was just out there on
the clock and wasn't doingnothing, so it was one of them
deals.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Well, federal overtime Sure.
Yeah, the state realized howgood Tier 1 was.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Right, yeah, I'm stuck in Tier 3.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh yeah, it's amazing .
We're even saying that there'stier one, two, three, three,
eight.
That's one thing I think.
Our organized labor in thestate, whether you're union or
not, I think they need to getback to making that pretty
coercive for all guys.
Now there should be no threeyears.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Try to get the upper hand with us.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Well, you all know the 20 years is a perfect out
for hazardous.
It's a young man's game.
It really is.
If you want to continue andhave that, where you can be like
, okay, I can go do somethingelse, have a different life, do

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something totally different, beyoung enough and say I pulled my
time, it's time to go.
Sure, I think they did adisservice for everybody when
they put it to 25 plus years.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
I'm with you.
I believe eventually they willhave to revert backwards because
the lack of interest hasalready started showing up.
Where people have no interestin it they're like well, my dad
gave me there.
He said you'll always have agood pension and good insurance.
You won't get rich, but you'llhave a pension and insurance.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Nowadays they may make more money, but in the end
when you need it sitting at home, they're not getting what we
got exactly, yeah, I think thelast time I looked at it it's
for insurance for two or threeguys is 15 per year of service.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, that's terrible yeah, you know, I don't, I
don't, you know, I did 20 andgot mine and I've, you know, my,
my family's insurance paid forit.
That means more to me thanreally the money coming in.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
a lot of times I love that money coming in,
especially as we get older.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I'm going and getting shots in my toes now over three
months for arthritis.
I'm like God the doctor's likeit's going to hurt.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
I was like, more than last time.
You guys said you were police,Y'all do the shots in the.
I'm like, yeah, the doctor'slike it's going to hurt.
I was like, more than last timeyou guys said you were police.
Or did y'all do the shots inthe toes just for fun?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, I was also a Marine, so I love the color red
crayon.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
There you go.
It's his favorite flavor.
I didn't know if you needed itor you wanted it.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Both.
The doctor said.
He said one time he was likeyou know, um, he's, he's pulling
on my toe, you know, pullingthe joint out, getting ready to
stick me.
I was like, oh gosh.
He said this is gonna hurt you.
Probably.
You probably not had any painlike this.
That's well.
Yeah, I I've had three shots inmy ear, behind my eardrum, when
I was losing some.

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I said, yeah, so this isnothing, I can take this.
And I was wrong behind myeardrum, when I was loosening
something.
I said, yeah, so this isnothing, I can take this.
And I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
If I heard that Boom.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I was like oh so when did you get hooked up with
Forrest?
When did you all meet?

Speaker 4 (14:03):
That's a long story.
We were on this mountain,Canton, on that night.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
We didn't record that early for you.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well, I mean, it's real simple.
You guys will understand this.
When we applied for the firedepartment, we used to go to
what we called the civil serviceboard and you'd walk in and
they'd tell you you've got totake a test.
You know what do you want toapply for.
You know they would have policethere, fire there and EMS.
They would have every city jobthere and you basically took the

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test.
The only difference was if youpassed the civil service test,
you became a fireman.
If was, if you passed the civilservice test you became a
fireman If you failed it.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
You were a police officer.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
I knew it.
I knew it was coming, Basicallyme and Forrest passed that test
.
That's basically how it looked.
I thought, oh man, I want to bein a room with this guy because
we're both going to end up onthe fire department.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Fair enough, fair enough Fair enough.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I went to.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Everybody.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Everybody knew Harold as probably the funniest guy in
the Louisville fire departmentand we were on different shifts
most of our career.
We never worked in the samehouse together.
I knew him but I wouldn't saywe were on different shifts most
of our career.
We never worked in the samehouse together.
I knew him but I wouldn't saywe were like friend, friends
that did anything.
But I may have talked aboutthis before.
When me and my wife wereseparated, I took in a fireman

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that I knew he had separatedfrom his wife and he lived in my
basement and after like a yearthere was another fireman that
came in and he left and thenHarold said hey, man, I'll come
in and rent that basement foryou.
Harold does not need.
He didn't need a basement withhis pension and his off-day

(16:02):
business.
He'd go out and buy a house.
He could buy a house anytime hewanted.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
My manhouse.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
A couple of my fireman friends.
They worried about me becausegoing through a divorce was
tough.
Colton at that time was asenior.
He was leaving for college.
So Harold moved in and I thinkhe lived here for seven years
until Nicky ran him off.
Yeah, because that helped work.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Making that bulls down to a woman and ruining
another thing for good guys.
That's what that bulls do.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
But I think we had one argument and I'm not sure it
was an argument I may have toldyou about that.
I come home or he pulls up inthe driveway one day it was
during covet and I just finishedmowing the grass he walks out
there he tells me hey, did yousee where them guys got a big
fight?
A neighbor mowed anotherneighbor yard and they got a

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fight because the guy said don'tmow my yard and I said I, I
don't understand.
He goes, I mow the grass, notyou.
And he went in the house and Ithought, wow, we just got into
it because I mowed my yard.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Your own yard.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
It's usually fighting over who does the dishes.
Yeah, that was never a fight.
I had a dishwasher there, butthere were no dishwashers in the
firehouse, so if there was anyplates in there, whoever saw
them, they'd jump in and wash itby hand.
If I saw his clothes in thedryer, I'd take them out and
fold them.
He did the same thing.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Man, I need some firefighters coming to my house.
Yeah, they're better than maidservice.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Oh my gosh, I tell you what we had it made.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
We really did.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
But I don't, like I said it was perfect.
It was not like the odd couplewhere they were fighting all the
time.
We were the yeah, we were.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Just don't mow the yard.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Harold was the perfect roommate.
He'd listen to my love storieswhere I'd been jilted by some
woman and tell me, yeah, getover it.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Suck it up, rub a little dirt on it.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Quit whining.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah, and then you know, colton, when he'd come
home for the summers fromcollege and he'd be here and he
still talks about it he loved itbecause he had both of us.
It was like him being in afirehouse and you know, then
when he finally did get onLouisville Fire Department, he
felt like he'd already been inthat atmosphere.
You know, nobody could phase itbecause he'd heard it all from

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both of us.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
He was trained already for the beatdown.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
He developed thick skin real quick, huh man.
So tell us some stories aboutsome fire shenanigans.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Sure, it's always hard when they put you on the
spot.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Well, I've seen.
I mean, like I said, I wasfortunate I've seen anything you
could name.
I was in an end of town where Iused to tell everybody they'd
ask me you know you're in theWest End and I would tell
everybody when I leave that areait was a world away from where
I live.
It was only 15 miles, but it wasan entire different world.
It just was.

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We made fires all the time andthe towns are not as fortunate
as others.
More run-down homes, moredifferent mindsets.
So I was in that end of townwhere I can't I look back and
think there's nothing.
I've been so fortunate thatI've seen pretty much everything

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you can imagine, uh, and Iconsider that being lucky from
wanting to do the job.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Tell them about some characters snooki.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Uh, snooki was a guy, a local guy, who ate every
sunday at the firehouse, seenwalk in the streets.
He wasn't home when some oldlady took care of him, but he
wore fire clothing, he had afire coat, he wore all winter
Fire boots and if you made afire he was out there rolling.
He was there.
Yeah, he was a local guy.
You know, never did anythingbut chase a fire trucker.

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He'd come and eat every Sundaywith us.
We had a kid named Greg.
Same thing he ate every daylunch Still does.
He's still down there, a littlebit handicapped.
His sister communicates withfiremen, but he eats lunch every
day in that firehouse, to thisday that's awesome.
He's probably 45 now.
He was a kid then.

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So yeah, I got fortunate enoughto see, you know, from fire
runs, you know, some things thatstand out like.
We had an 18-inch snow onenight and none of the vehicles
would get around.
And I got fortunate enough, Iwas driving a district chief, a
major, and we make this housefire.
You know, we'd pull out afirehouse and we're in an

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open-cap bumper because our carsthey want.
There was too much snow so theyput us in a big pumper to get
around better with chains on thetires.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Right.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
And I remember pulling out of the house on this
house fire.
It was only about a box away.
We're going real slow.
We're in this open cab pumpthere and we turned the corner
right in front of the firehouseand the maid said I hear the
major go.
Well, you don't see that everyday.
Here comes this lady runningdown the center of the street
and she's naked I'm 100% nakedand she runs by the truck in the

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opposite direction and she'syelling I'm going to my mama's
house.
That house around the corner ison fire.
He's like you don't see thatevery day.
I said no, we may never seethat again.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I have so many questions.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Well, she had been in that apartment building and she
was peeing like some people do.
She had a stove on these oldbuildings and this place caught
fire.
She had been in a tub.
We found out she was in a tuband when it caught fire she
basically just hauled ass.
She didn't want to bowl, no,she was, and it was when I

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stayed cold.
We were amazed that.
You know, here we are two toughguys going to a fire.
We're bundled up like there'sno tomorrow.
She's running down the streetnaked going to her mom's house.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
I wonder what her mom said.
That's my question.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It may not have been the first time.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
He didn't have time to get her clothes and in her
defense, that three-story housewas on fire.
The whole thing, you know.
Just a bunch of good.
I had a great time.
Tragic stories of course youdon't like that, but a lot of
crazy stuff.
I was driving a district chiefonce and we make a house fire on

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a Sunday afternoon and you knowyou're like no, before you go
with the fire department theorytheory, you need to know where
you're going at all times and wedid not have cell phones with
maps yeah right, I'd be lost, sowe had.
Yeah, we had a huge map on thewall and I remember jumping out
the car and it's several callsbig house fire.

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And he looks at me and he saysI said hey, this little area
we're headed to is that, it'skind of an iffy area.
It's got a triangle.
He goes I know where we'regoing.
I said okay, great.
So I jump in and he tells me togo down broadway and I go down
broadway, he tells me to turnand I'm starting to notice that
we're driving around.

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It's not like for three or fourdays.
And he's not.
He doesn't really know wherehe's going.
And I said he looked at me andsays you know where we are.
And I said, no, you told me youknew where we were going.
So he said he goes, gosh, dangit.
He rose his window down to stopsign and asked the lady at the
car.
He goes, the street signs weremissing.
He goes ma'am, what street arewe on?

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And we're looking for thishouse fire and uh, you know
things like that, crazy stuff.
Yeah, he asked this lady at thestop sign.
He says hey, what street are weon?
And we got the lights andsirens on at the dinner table.
He tells everybody goes.

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That was the most embarrassingthing that ever happened in my
life and he blamed, blamed me.
I'm like you're the one thatsaid you knew where you were
going Howder's the captain.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
I think I told a few stories about him.
He was my captain before hemade Major, and that happened
with Harold.
Nicky thinks I need to get himon here sometime.
Yeah, he was a great guy.
We always called him DonnieBravo.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
We may have to make a trip up there and just have a
big round table.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
I don't know if I want to be outnumbered by
firefighters.
Even better, Howder's downclose to Miami.
I think we need to go on a roadtrip.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
I'm on for it as long as I don't have to Miami.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
I think we need to go on a road trip.
Absolutely, I'm on for it, aslong as I don't have to fly.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
I'll fly, I'll see you there Didn't wait three days
before.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
We flew this summer but I was stuck in an airport
going nine hours on the waythere and I was stuck six hours
on the way back.
Airports are super iffy rightnow.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, I've seen too many of them falling out of the
sky.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
I said the same thing the other day.
It's like one a week and that'sa little scary.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
It's not so much the flying that scares me, it's the
sudden stop and hitting theground.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
That old hitting the ground thing doesn't sound like
no fun.
I agree, Not at all.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I trust it.
It's safer than driving.
You got more trust than that.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
So, Harold, I hear you might have been involved in
a few pranks in your career.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of those, but you know
those were passed on through theyears.
You know I was fortunate.
The old guys you know wasfortunate the old guys, you know
they would.
Uh, they, there were traditions.
You know, your first year,basically they owned you.
I don't care who you were, youwere their new guy and that was
it, you know I.

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I was told when I come on, youknow you, you're the service
truck guy, even when you're nothere.
I was worried about our servicetruck in the bay when I was at
home, you know, I thought it wasmy responsibility to keep it
clean, even when i're not here.
I was worried about our servicetruck in the bay when I was at
home, you know, I thought it wasmy responsibility to keep it
clean, even when I wasn't onduty.
So, yeah, we had several.
There were several thingspassed on, and it's easy to

(26:43):
nobody or anyone at any timewhen you're there 24 hours, you
know, yeah, it's just the pranksare.
They're endless, they can beendless and we were, fortunate
enough, we were in the west endwhere nobody really messed with
us.
Nobody wanted not everybodywanted to be down there, so we
got by with a lot more stuffmaybe than a lot of other people

(27:03):
but we had good peopleprotecting us together.
There's, there was a massquantity of pranks.
You know you got your Christmaspranks, they would.
Or the rope pranks, wherethey'd tell you, you know you
had to tie ropes at the end ofthe year.
You had to show them you coulddo your knots and well, they'd
tie you up.
You'd put your rope on, they'dput you in the hose tire and

(27:26):
they'd hoist you up to see ifyou're not there.
Right, right, yeah.
And when you're new you take itas part of the test.
If you're hanging in theholster for two hours, you know
they would comment why are youhanging there, spinning you
around as big as a dog?

(27:46):
All in good fun.
But I mean, the things theythought of were endless and they
were never-ending.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Well, they were Thanksgiving, they'd send you
out to get the turkeys.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Christmas turkey, yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Yeah, they'd send you all the croakers.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, we had boxes stocked in our hose tire,
because it was.
You know, it's four storieshigh and you'd have boxes in the
bottom of there and the new boywould go in there to pick up
them, boxes where everybody's onthe stairwells with firebombs
and water and everything else.
You know, it was just easy.
When you're there 24 hours, ofcourse, you also gotta remember

(28:22):
when you're down and you're withuh 18.
We had a dorm.
We had 33 beds in our dorm andyou know, only 11 people a ship
three slept way across the roombut it was nothing to hear that
all night with a new boy,Something was going on all night
long.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Don't talk about cash and checks.
Somebody wanted to cash theircheck all the time their
paycheck Did you get changed.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Oh yeah, you know, back when you had a banking, if
you had a fireman who was single, he'd say, hey, while you're
going to the bank, cash my check, I'll sign it.
Well, they told me it waspopular.
If you cash anybody's check,tell the bank you want the whole
.
If he made $800 for two weeks,you'd get it in change.

(29:09):
Oh gosh, you'd bring back roadquarters and pennies and you'd
get it in change, oh gosh, you'dbring back quarters and pennies
, and then they'd never ask youagain.
It was always Friday, and yougave it to them at the end of
the day.
Well, they got all that changefor the whole weekend, that's
awful I love it.
It was an amazing.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Did you say you came back and the back of your car
was about to break down?
It had so much change in theback of it.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
I had a Continental that had an air ride system,
yeah, and it hunkered down withall the money and the change in
the back of it.
It hunkered down and I think tothis day I still think it broke
that airbag on that continent.
You know they would pass thatstuff on.
It was all in good.
When work came there was nogoofing off.

(30:00):
You know what I mean.
But up until then there was alot of time during the day when
you were around.
It was endless.
There was tons of stuff theycould do that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
We played pranks but they tended to hit the news and
we'd get in trouble for them.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
We had several hit the news we had one dude we're
like anybody you don't knoweverybody you work with.
We had a guy robbing stores inthe service truck parking in an
alley.
He turned his shirt inside outin his coat.
He parked in the alley.
They didn't catch him for likea year.

(30:39):
He robbed like five or sixplaces.
Wow, yeah.
And then they said one lady,one older lady said I think I've
seen that guy get in a firedepartment car.
Sure enough, you know, this isback before there was a camera.
Yeah, sure enough, this guy'sbeen robbing.
He robbed a truck store, herobbed a couple.

(31:00):
He robbed four or five placesin the service truck.
Well, we had a guy that was aserial killer too.
We did have a guy that killed acouple women.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, he did.
He was a a couple women, Ithink he electrocuted them.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
He did electrocute them.
Yeah, you never know who allyou're working with.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
He went down to the trunk and he was going to throw
her in the river.
And when he opened that trunkshe jumped out fighting him.
Yeah, yeah.
So I got caught.
And then my first night I wentin there and found a bed and
they said, hey, you know whosebed that is?
And I'm like, no, and it wasthat guy's.

(31:38):
And I still didn't know who itwas.
They're like he's a serialkiller.
Good night, new boy.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
That poor woman.
She still probably liked thatfirefighter better than she did
the police that showed up tohelp her.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Oh yeah, Like I said, that dude, the police even
admitted.
I remember an old article inthe newspaper that one of the
detectives said what's weird isthis guy?
It's like after about a yearthey said this guy's robbing
stores like every third day.
Well, we were only on everythird day.

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It was like nobody could catchon.
It was a fireman, that'shilarious.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Well, there's a bunch of unsolved crimes.
I need to go back and interviewsome firefighters.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
We got some cold cases.
I need to go to the firedepartment.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Well, they're notorious for wanting to fire,
so they go out and start it.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
You'll find this interesting.
They had an article in thenewspaper once.
There were people outragedbecause they discovered this
dude they had put in jail formurdering these couple women.
They had found out that he wasreceiving this.
He'd been in jail like nineyears but he received this
pension check up at thereformatory.

(32:53):
It's common.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
It was great.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Yeah.
And then the news reported hey,you can't ever take their
pension, they can go to jail andsteal their pension.
And the news was down therelike hey, what do you feel like
this article?
And the cat was like don't talk, Don't talk on camera, Don't
tell anybody.
Because the whole community wasoutraged that you could keep
your pension when you went tojail.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
Well, he earned it.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
That's what they said .
They said well, he earned it,it's his, and they're like he
was killing people.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, but how many did he save?
Did it even out?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
They never talk about that.
That's awful.
That's funny.
Last time I looked that dudewas still in jail.
He's been in jail forever.
Good lord he's still in there.
He's probably worth a milliondollars right now.
That's awful.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Stamps and cigarettes .
He's got a life supply of TopRamen.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Man Speaking of sleeping in fire departments.
The floods that hit out ineastern Kentucky we went over
there and stayed in Wattsburg'sfire department and a bunch of
cops and some firefighters wentwith us.
I ended up out of there withthe snoring in the couch.

(34:25):
It's like I found a couchsomewhere downstairs and I was
so surprised that they wouldcome up.
They'd be drinking beer all day.
They'd be like, hey, we got afire, we're going to get that
fire truck.
They'd been drinking all day.
I was like, okay, that'sdifferent places.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I won't say which agency it was.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I worked in.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Weisberg on my off-duty.
I worked up there.
I got a safety company and Idid fracking for Halliburton up
in the mountains.
They would buy these peoplemountains and they'd drill wells
off.
I did that for six or sevenmonths up in Weisberg.
There's another part of theworld that's completely
different.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
It is a whole different place.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Culture shock.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
I had a ball while I was up there, but only because I
made my way and defined whatwould be fun.
But I mean, it was a wholedifferent world away from where
we are.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
We worked the day shift over there and there was
another agency doing the policestuff at night and we hadn't
seen them guys all day andapparently they were out western
Kentucky and ended up overthere and they found the
moonshine.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
They got into the moonshine.
They were.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
We didn't see them.
I think they took that day off.
We ended up working nights too.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
It was a good time.
But you talk about beingappreciated over there.
I mean, if you ever feltunappreciated and in the big
cities.
You go over there and it's man.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
They were different, they was oh, I worked on that
fracking crew.
I was a safety for ahalliburton who did the fracking
for seven days and then staythere for months while the
drill's going or the well'sgoing and I got to meet all them
guys that lived up in themcommunities.
Man, they were great.
They were just great dudes theyreally were.
They'd invite me to their houseon the weekend.

(36:19):
They'd have, you know, sundaydinner with them, go to church.
They were all great guys upthere.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I liked every one of them.
Yeah, once you get to know themand they can trust you, they'll
tell you like don't go out andthis time after that holler.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
But they'll tell you my dumb, my dumb butt was
walking around.
I'm such an idiot.
When I first got there you hadto walk outside at night.
I was on.
They built me a house on thetop of this mountain where I had
to stay and everybody elsewould leave.
I'm walking around on my phoneand one of them guys come up to
me and said said hey, uh, youknow, we're on.
He goes.
You know where we're at, don'tyou?
And I said well, yeah, we're uphere on top of this, this big

(36:56):
mountain or hill.
He goes.
Well, you know why?
I've got four or five guns inthe back window of my truck,
don't you?
I'm walking around on his phone.
And he said I've just seen somekind of mountain lion looking
at you or something.
He goes, you, I'm walkingaround and I follow these
animals.
He said these animals willstalk you out here at night.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
No joke when we were out there with the floods.
Those coyotes were gettingclose.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
They would come right into town on you.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
They were hungry.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
It was wild.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
It was a good time up there.
I liked being up there.
Yeah, I learned a lot.
It was interesting.
It was an good time up there.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
I liked being up there.
Yeah, I learned a lot.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
It was interesting, it was an experience, for sure.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
So, Harold tell us about this.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
Harold, I guess your main thing is I mean, he plays
the guitar, but you're also adrummer, right?
Yep?
And Harold knows everythingthere is to know about music.
But tell him a story about thebridge in dc and what happened I
danced so I was in it.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Actually I go to dc, to the fire academy, to do my
county job, maybe once a month.
I signed up for classes that Inever took my girlfriend.
I met all these people and I'dparty with them and have fun all
weekend on the, basically onthe department's dime.
They give you this money to goand I'd always heard there was a
legend on the Shenandoah River.

(38:19):
You go on the Chesapeake BayBridge.
You had to dance by the.
You had to dance by themoonlight at midnight.
I made that big mistake of doingthat.
He stopped on the bridge.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
I stopped on the bridge.
I stopped on the bridge.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
I had a friend with me and we decided we're going to
dance with the devil atmoonlight at midnight on
Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
Little did I know it was afederal crime.
I'm going to tell you I canstill feel that woman judge
spitting in my face.

(38:54):
I mean she and I were pissed.
That didn't fare for me so well, but I can say I did do it.
I went back and served.
I begged them for mercy andthey gave me community service.
But I'm a Louisville fireman.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
It didn't work.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
At least you didn't kill anybody.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
No, you're right, I never even thought once.
I thought it was tradition tostop and do a dance on that
bridge Boy.
I was wrong.
According to the police upthere, I was one of the only
ones they'd ever caught doing it.
I think a lot of people liedabout that.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
You had another story .
You know how they had therunaway thing for the tractor
trailers when they lose theirbrakes.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah, I had a car full of people and I planned on
A rental car, a rental car.
And I planned on a rental car,a rental car.
And I planned on screwing.
When there was four people inmy car and we're singing songs
and I had planned this wholetime I was going to drive off
and I'd never been on one ofthem roads they were called
runaway truck lanes coming outof the mountains, right, and I
thought, okay, I'm going to hitthis sucker and I just assumed

(40:07):
you went, we'll, and I justassumed you went.
They just slowed you down.
I did so.
I got four people in this carand we're singing.
I remember the song we'resinging Tiny Dads Are Out.
Last Night, hold me close.
There's two girls in the backand me and a buddy are in the

(40:27):
front seat and I hit this.
We're flying and singing.
They're not paying attention.
So I drive off this road and gothrough one of the.
It's got a gate on it, abreakaway gate, and when I tell
you I hit it, it was nodifferent than running into a
concrete wall.
It tore the nose cone off hisrental car.

(40:48):
It tore his nose cone off hisrental car.
It tore his car up and the guybeside me screamed.
He grabbed the dashboard sohard he ripped the cover and the
airbag out of the dashboard andthe girl in the back had an
accident.
So now he's like what happened?
I'm like, oh, some animal runout in front of me.

(41:10):
They're like what I said, itwas a moose.
It was something big.
Now that she had done used thebathroom in her pants.
It was beyond crazy.
She's like mad as heck.
And the dude beside me, hestarts laughing.
But that girl, of course.
That cost me about $4,800 infines.

(41:31):
I didn't know you had torebuild that road.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Apparently that sand stopped you immediately that
sand.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
If you never hit one, they don't slow you down, they
stop you.
You know it was crazy, but Ipaid for it.
I had the insurance on a carbut I still paid about $2,000.
She was a really good friendbut she had basically had an
accident and you know,everybody's like man.
This car stinks.
I'm like shut up.

(41:59):
You know, to this day that'sbeen probably eight years ago To
this day she hasn't spoke to mesince.
Wow, yeah, I learned my lessonthe hard way there too.
He'll send me a text, that guy.
He's an executive for a bigcompany and he'll send me a text
out of the blue saying I'msitting in a meeting, man, and

(42:20):
I'm laughing about you hittingthat road, because I know you
did it on purpose and I'll stillswear to him I didn't do it on
purpose.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
They know the truth now though, if they listen to
this podcast.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
You're right, yeah, he swears.
I'm like no man, it was ananimal.
He goes there was no animal,yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
I've never even seen trucks hit those things.
I've not either.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
I'll tell you what I swear to you.
I thought I was going to havethis little slow, sinking ride.
I'm telling you it was the mostviolent thing I've ever done in
my life.
It ripped the nose cone, theheadlight and pulled them off
that car and the gate.
They made me pay $1,800 for it.
The cops they wrote me allthese tickets and they believed

(43:06):
me.
They're like yeah, it happened.
They still still.
I paid money for six months tolike send me a bill.
They had some hill jack as arecord service.
He charged me like 500 to pullmy car out.
I think you know.
Uh, it was a.
I tell anybody don't ever do it.

(43:27):
If you're thinking about it, Iwould never do it again you
can't let them intrusivethoughts win.
Yeah, he had the Billy Bob'srecord.
He was like $500.
He only pulled me like eightfeet.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
It took a lot of effort to get you out of that
bunker.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
He threw the bumper and the headlights.
I was drivable.
The police let me follow himdown in front and back of me and
all he did was pull me out andthey threw the bumper and
everything in the back seat,with the two girls I got.
It was terrible.
It was horrible.

(44:12):
It was a horrible experienceyeah it was uh, and I did like
her as a friend, but, boy, shenever spoke to me again.
I called her from a strangenumber.
I called her from a strangenumber.
She answered and I said, heyclick, she never got over that.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I don't know that I blame her right actually I don't
either.
It was pretty solid she didn'tsign up for that oh my goodness,
what else have you done?

Speaker 3 (44:50):
You didn't sign up for that.
Oh my goodness, what else haveyou done?
We don't want to get you put injail.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
I think some of the things I thought were funny, not
everybody else did.
I'm going to be honest.
They're funny to me it wasn'tfunny to you at that point in
time either, I don't guess.
I'll be honest with you, Ithought it was going to be
hilarious but, boy, I can tellyou right now it was not that
nice at all.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
That state trooper.
He rode ticket for a half hour.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well, they do that anyways.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Was you back in Virginia or?

Speaker 4 (45:29):
where the Chesapeake I was.
That's exactly where I was.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I know I bet you was coming through Bristol and back
down towards North Carolina thatway on like 77, I bet You're
exactly right.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
That's the right one.
I know the ones.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Because I was tempted .

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'm going to tell you the truth.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I planned it, sucker, I planned it.
I'm going to tell you the truth.
I planned it, sucker, I plannedit.
I'm not lying.
I planned it so heavily Ithought I swear to you I would
have bet my life's savings.
It was going to be smootherthan it was.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
It's a premeditated 46.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Enterprise put me on a no-win list for like two years
.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I didn't even know that existed.
I didn't think you could getblacklisted.
What he said he's a rentalterrorist.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Yeah, they had me on a do-not-rent-a-car-to-this-guy
list.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I know that.
I know the war you were becauseI just drove through there this
year.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Oh, I'm telling you, hey, if you even need one, I'd
recommend not using them, you'rebetter off direct, just ride it
out.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Just take your chances, just take your chances.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Yeah, next time I'll just hit a semi in the back.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
And that was the end of his Uber career.
Wow.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
So I'll tell you another story about Harold so he
talked about.
Now.
He works for another department.
It's every sixth day, and thatdepartment it's in every sixth
day and that department it's, uh, in a one county north of us
but a lot of louisville firementhat have retired they end up
there and it's kind of a timewhere they can get together and

(47:21):
have coffee.
And I worked up there until Iwas full time at this department
.
But, uh, so what would happen isand I don't't think Harold ever
knew I did this I would startnoticing the coffee cups were
missing and then he took mySuperman cup, my favorite one,
and I'm like, oh God, it's gotin my car.

(47:41):
And I go up there to thatdepartment and I walk in and I
saw some guys there sittingthere having coffee and they're
like hey, bors, what's going on?
Come get my coffee cups.
And we're here to open thecabinets.
And there they were.
And I got my coffee cups andthere was my Superman cup.
I walked back out with them allin my hands.
You see, any guys?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
That's awesome.
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Now, doug knows, but Harold Mary he was the pastor
for me and Mickey, so he had toget ordained and Mickey's
Harold's so busy that he canstart dragging his feet.
It was getting closer andcloser.
Mickey's like I don't know.

(48:28):
I think he's working withsomebody in Haiti.
He's getting his pastor licensewith something in Haiti or
something he's like what.
I don't know what it is.
Is it like a witch doctor thing?

Speaker 3 (48:45):
It's got some voodoo, I ended up having this.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I had actually a really good guy mentor me.
Now he was in prison.
His name was Charlie.
He was out in LA, but I'll tellyou the truth.
I think he was misunderstood.
He did a great job, veryChristian-like on the part.
It cost me a fair amount ofmoney because it was $2.50 to

(49:11):
talk for a minute.
In the end, he ended up being agreat mentor.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
It's beginning to make a lot of sense.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
He has some bible symbols on his forehead he died
not long ago, but once again.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
I think he's a great mentor when it comes to learning
how to marry people is itCharles Manson?
Hey you know him too.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
You must be a minister too.
You must be a minister too.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
He was a very knowledgeable guy.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Mickey was very confident.
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
I tell you it was fun when Harold was still living
here once we got married.
There wasn't a day went by thatMickey didn't just roll her
eyes at something he was doing.
How long did he live therewhile you all were that Mickey
did just roll her eyes and hopethat he was doing her thing.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
How long did he live there while you all were living
together, married After marriage?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
yeah, six months, six months, yeah yeah, she knocked
up her game to get rid of me.
It was kind of sad.
I didn't want to go.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Now, I'm not joking around.
It was really, really hardbecause, harold, you know I'm an
only child, but it was like Ihad a brother and, like I said,
we never didn't get along.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I don't think you never grew up.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
We were starting to argue when she kind of picked
her and that was a littledisappointing.
We never argue.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
But Meryl's joking and pranking all the time,
mickey's just kind of like ah,I'm not getting in the middle of
this, I said I'm not doing this.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
I love you both and I'm not doing this he had the
world's toughest looking dogwhen she came along.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Now he wears bowls and he looks like a sissy bought
him a plaid collar and took thespiked leather collar off his
neck.
He's a bit of a sissy.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
He's weak.
He wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
They tried to register him about six months
ago and they said he's no longera Doberman.
They wouldn't even let himregister.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
He's a poodle.
He's a Doberman poodle.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
He's in a poodle, yeah Gosh.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
How did you all survive?

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Oh, I think so, harold's grandson.
I guess Benson was probablyfive when he?
Oh, yeah, I guess Benson wasprobably five when he oh, yeah,
yeah.
So what was it he told hisgrandma about this being a house
of men?

Speaker 4 (52:30):
It was a men only.
We had no women in this house.
He said we got a boy dog, we dowhatever we want.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
And she made a comment we don't take our shoes
off in the house?

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Yeah, because it's just a man's house.
We don't want any women in thishouse.
It's the man's house.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
We don't want any women in it.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
It's the.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
He-Man.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Woman Haters Club.
It was.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
It was he would tell his Nana and his Mama.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Yeah, when I go there it's men.
Only He'd even go.
Forrest has got a whole lot ofguns I'm like oh, buddy, hold on
a minute.
Don't be telling Mama about allthe guns Forrest.
We would teach him safety andeverything, but he was.
He just loves everything aboutit.
It was hilarious.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
But then when Vicki came along, would he call her a
savage.
He said make her a savage yeah,and we're like what does that
mean?
He said everything's going tochange.
Now he's like maybe eight, nine.
He's a savage.
Everything's like maybe eight,nine.
Yeah, he's a savage,Everything's gonna change.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Invasive species so funny.
So, Harold, do you have anymore children?

Speaker 4 (53:48):
You've got the grandchildren.
How many two girls?
I've got two.
I had two girls and I got onegrandchild and I've got my
second grandchild on the way.
My daughter and her husband are.
She works at uok and they'vebeen trying to get pregnant.
They've had a hard time forlike five years.
How come I'm just not hearingabout this?
She's pregnant, she is, and sothey're keeping their fingers
crossed that this will go okay.
But they've had a hard time.

(54:08):
But I've got two girls.
My girls are both graduates ofUK.
One of them runs is in 9-1-1 inLouisville at Metro State and
the other one works for theUniversity of Kentucky, but she
worked for Fox news out ofindiana.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
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Speaker 4 (56:44):
I did it One 24-hour shift in my life.
Is it worth?
I'm not lying.
I'd be homeless if I had to doit for a job.
I went home thinking about didI miss calls, Did I transfer
this?
It was mind-boggling.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yeah, being able to gather information like that and
disseminate information and logit all at the same time I could
imagine how many calls I get atlouisville oh it's.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Uh, it's my daughter, and luckily my daughter is.
She's moved up to some superrabbit.
She's to get up with it, whichis what you want.
You want somebody who loves it,but uh, it's, it's unbelievable
.
Like I said, it's justmind-boggling.
It stayed on my mind I did itone day and I'm not kidding.
It was on my mind for days LikeI forgot something or did I

(57:30):
send the police and the fire.
It was stressful, as all kids.
It was way more stressful thanmy fire department job.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Yeah, we got not to be mean but she would have her
days on the radio.
I never met her, but shesounded like a grumpy old lady.
She'd get really nasty on theradio sometimes and they sent us
on a car wreck but they didn'tsay whether to go eastbound or
westbound and they were sendingcompanies from both directions

(58:01):
the other way.
So I got on the radio and Isaid radio, do you want us to
make that eastbound or westbound?
And she said make it the wayyou always make it.
And I was like, uh, okay, I'llmake it both ways.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
I'll go straight, I'll go north, we'll jump to
median if we have to.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
When in doubt, run it out.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Well, I mean, I don't blame them for being grumpy.
They deal with overgrown men,children all day long.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
Buddy, when you have a storm blow through I don't
know how they do it Like treesdown, power lines down.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I'll tell you, the most confusing call is a
wrong-way driver getting on theinterstate down here, and it
happened, you know, quite oftenand they would say northbound
and the southbound side.
I'd freak out, I didn't knowwhat to do.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
You vapor locked.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yes, I was like I don't know which way to go now.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
It is hard, it is confusing, trying to figure out
where you're going to get on, tohead it off, they'll turn
around, they'll figure it outUntil they don't.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
You hope.
Then that makes Fox News too,or National News when they don't
go good.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, the last one was bad.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
But yeah, that's confusing because I'm in a town
now and I have zero idea whereanything is.
So I'm just trying, I just knowwhere I go.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
And you're asking me for directions to places, and
that's terrible.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
I was like where is that Dillon?
No, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
The other day it was me and another girl going to a
call, and she's not as familiarwith the area either, so I'm
behind her.
We're going to a domestic.
Neither one of us knows wherewe're going, but we're running
lots of sirens to it all overtown following GPS you gotta, at
least you gotta.
At least look like you knowwhere you're going we didn't

(01:00:01):
know where we was going, but hewas going there really fast.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
So Harold's the one who did the Lucky Charm.
You all knew that right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
That's yeah okay.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Yeah, harold's the one that Picked through all the
marshmallows and then put themback in the box.
Well, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
So for everybody listening that wants to go back
and listen to Forrest's episode,the name of that episode is
Lucky Breaks, lucky Charms andFire Alarms.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Yes, that's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
So Harold even made the title of that one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
That's a lot of dedication to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
That guy, when he still talks to me, brings that
up.
He's still hurt, he's hurt yeah, he's like one of them.
Lucky charm marshmallows outthere.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
I'm like buy another box yeah, that was uh, so that
was.
That was the department thatI'm in now.
And when me and harold werethere on the same shift, there
was one guy I always called himBaby Huey I just say he's soft
and he would sit out in histruck because he didn't want to
come in there and have me andHarold getting on him, so he'd

(01:01:17):
sit out there until the start ofhis shift.
When we were going off work andwe heard the door open and we
looked and he was trying tosneak in and go to the bathroom.
He had to go to the bathroom,so then he tried to sneak back
out.
Like hey, where you going?
He goes.
I'm going out to my trunk.
Like no, no, no, get on in here, get on in here, he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
No, I'm good, get in here you can't, you can't have
thin skin in these type of jobsmy first day.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
I vividly remember my first day.
I walked into a kitchen whichwas normal, in the morning with
another shift, there, 12 guysand the first guy looks at me
and says, can we help you?
And of course I've got thispress, brand new uniform and all
this stuff in my hand, lookinglike some weirdo.
You know, that's all freshpress.
And he goes.

(01:02:08):
I said why I'm supposed to behere.
He goes well, what's your name?
I tell him my name.
He goes what are your friendscall you?
I said he goes we don't carewhat your friends call you,
we're not your friends.
That was my first day.
They let me stay in that bayfloor for like nine.

(01:02:28):
That was every day for the nextyear.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
That is hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Yeah, them guys were good at it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
They sent you up for failure right off the bat.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Oh yeah, I was out in the bay.
When he came out out there hehad pulled his boat in.
It was like a sunday, our firstday.
He had his boat in the bay andhe said don't stay there, stare
at my boat, new boy, go outside.
Then I walked outside andstayed there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
You know, they had many ways of getting him what
would you say is the best prankthat they've pulled in your?

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
career.
We can't tell that.
The funniest ones here we'reall grown men.
The funniest ones are, you know, at night you see, uh, you see
somebody duct tape to his bed.
They get somebody duct tapefrom his bed.
They'd get somebody duct tapedto their bed, tie them up, put
them in a hose tire.
I've seen a guy on a roof inhis bed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
That's awesome Screaming.
I'd be afraid to go to sleeparound you all.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Well, with your first year you don't sleep at all
because you know that they wouldtell you, hey, get some good
sleep, and, boy, I'll see you ina little while.
And you'd be like, oh crap, Ican't go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Stay up all night, you knew they meant it, they
meant it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
I say the worst one I saw.
Do you guys know what a spudgun is?

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Yeah, somebody.
We had a guy that was a plumberby trade.
He makes a butt gun and theywere using WD-40 as the igniter.
And they were having funshooting the big metal dumpster
with the potatoes.
Well, you'll always have oneperson who goes too far, and I

(01:04:24):
guess it's been too long agoreally to prosecute anybody.
They had a staff flighthelicopter passing overhead and
that's all I'm going to say.
It didn't hit it.
We were like what are you doing?
And we threw that gun in thedumpster and that was the end of

(01:04:47):
that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
You've always got that one.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
You know what?
I'm probably going to getContacted now by the FAA.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
They've got enough Life stuff to worry about.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Yeah, we had a bunch of police officers that hung out
at our firehouse because we'rein the West End.
They'd come in, they'd eatdinner, sometimes They'd use the
bathroom.
They hung out in the backparking lot with us all the time
.
We had a little fire pit.
We'd make a fire pit and sitaround these lawn chairs.
A couple of police officerswould come by.

(01:05:22):
We knew them real well.
One night night we're out thereand everybody's goofing off and
police and everybody.
The phone rings.
It's like one in the morningand it's radio.
And they're like, hey, uh, goanswer the home phone.
It's not recorded.
The fire phone was recorded.
We go in and answer the homephone and the lady goes, hey,

(01:05:42):
metro state that put up allkinds of cameras.
We can see your whole parkinglot now.
And we're like, okay, so westopped all of that.
And we're like there's stuffgoing on in y'all's back parking
lot that's not in real favor.
And we're like, okay, we'll gostop it.
So, yeah, they installed abunch of those 360 cameras down

(01:06:03):
there everywhere.
Yeah, they had a perfect view ofour parking lot.
What they?

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
what they throw rocks and not from the bus windows.
Oh yeah yeah, they had aparking lot, but they throw
rocks.
I always wonder why these guyswant to be at this house.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
It's a bunch of delinquents.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
It took delinquents to be in a thing they like to
hide and get to see everything,that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Wow, that's something that I miss.
We had a pretty goodrelationship with the
firefighters here for a littlewhile, which we would hide when
we went over there.
They just they'd open the baydoors and we just pull cruisers
in.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
so nobody knew he was even there they would make fun
of them like we wasn't hangingout we had several police
officers at home at baby centerwith us.
We had a good, goodrelationship in the west end
with all of them.
That was a that was a safehaven for them.
We used the bathroom, eat food.
They could trust.
Yeah that's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
It's nice to have a good place that you trust to
poop Always, oh yeah absolutelyAbsolutely.
That's back when thebrotherhood was good.
We had a pretty goodbrotherhood back then, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
It's a little, I think I do believe from what I
hear from everybody in thedepartment it's changed not for
what I call the better.
I think some of that's changedfor the times I think it was a
lot better back when I wasyounger.
In them days Everybody gotalong real well.

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
Oh yeah, it's a big difference now.
Everybody got along real well.
Oh yeah, it's a big differencenow.
I remember we at the departmentwe were at, we had a couple
well, I know one supervisor.
He was a fire chief at thecounty fire department and so it
was a volunteer, so but anyway,you know he'd be on duty and

(01:08:04):
the fire come out, you know he'djust leave whatever he's doing
with us.
I got to go fight fire boys.
He'd just leave.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
It wouldn't matter if it was a wreck, a domestic, he
was gone.
He's gone.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
And one time it didn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
Those were better days period.
You're right.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
And we got to, they had a nice firehouse I mean it
was just a I mean spent a lot ofmoney on that thing and
upstairs had a complete kitchen.
They had the biggest TV in thecounty.
I mean that thing was like 100inches.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Oh yeah, back then.
Yeah, it was huge.

Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
And we'd all go up there.
We worked third shift and we'dgo up there on the corner.
We work third shift and we goup around third shift and we'd
cook.
We'd cook sausage and eggsbaked gravy.
We just have a big time.
Well, evidently somewhere downthe line somebody saw us down
there or complained about it,but one of the other supervisors

(01:08:58):
was a lieutenant.
He decided to come out onenight and spy on us and well,
needless to say, things didn'tgo well after that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
We never went back to the fire department to play
cornhole and watch TV.
That didn't stop us fromplaying rook and dispatch thing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
Apparently.
Yeah, it was a different time,it was a lot better.
It was a better time back then.
I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Oh, absolutely Well, back in those days, people, they
took care of their business.

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
If a guy did something goofy, it was taken
care of and it didn't happenagain.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
I think it was a better way of doing things oh
yeah, yeah, you policed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
your own is kind of the kind of the deal we didn't
we'd make runs with the policethe middle of the night.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
You know, I remember back when I first got on of
course the bridge going toindiana is in our district.
I remember the police officerwe'd make the same uh, they'd
make the same drunks or guybeing disorderly in the liquor
store and he'd beat someone up.
We'd go over there with thepolice and they'd load him up in
the car and they'd say, yeah,we're just going to drive him
over to Indiana and drop him off.
These guys, believe it or not,they were just town drunk.

(01:10:13):
They'd make their way back afew days later, but I still
think nobody went to jail.
They handled their stuff better.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
I always wondered how there were no homeless people
in Louisville during theKentucky.
We thought they took them overand dropped them off in Indiana
for that two or three daysGuaranteed.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
They got to clean it up, make it look pretty for all
the rich people coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I think us and Corbin traded people for a long time.
We'd take them to Corbin,they'd bring them back.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Little did we know that Rock Castle was bringing
them all down.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
I've made many a trip from Rock Castle County down to
the 49.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Oh, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
It got to the point where we might as well just met
at the line and traded them tothe cars.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I think we just took them on down to Tennessee after
a while.

Speaker 6 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I think we just took them on down to Tennessee
after a while.
Yeah, I think somebody did takeone down to Jellicoe and drop
them off.
I'm pretty sure they did.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
It's happening.
He may be sitting in his room.

Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
He may be, I'm taking you out of here.
You're not even allowed inKentucky.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
That's back when you could evict people from the city
.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
It's just 38 miles down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
It's amazing what you can make people think and
believe.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
There's been many a night where Doug was in Rock
Castle and I'd be down in Corbinsomewhere who's in the city of
London?
Nobody.
They're good.
We're not the head that way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Yeah, but yeah it was .
It was a lot better and a lotmore fun of a job when everybody
, all your agencies, got alongand worked together.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Yeah, they've.
I think politics had a lot todo with changes stuff, maybe not
for the better always oh yeah,it does, and where where I'm at
now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
So there's to eliminate a lot of that politics
and stuff.
They pay like.
Your department heads all getpaid the same.
Your fire chief and your policechief are all considered in the
same pay scale.
Your firefighters get paid thesame as police officers.
So there's not that jockeyingfor power.
Everybody gets.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
That was our biggest fight, our whole career, every
contract.
All we would ask for is can weget what the police get?
We hear the same thing.
Well, we pay you guys to sleep.
You know you're there all night.
You'd be like.
Well, all of us don't sleepevery night.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
I had a supervisor tell us because we was talking
about how much we get paid andyou know, there's days that we
don't do a whole lot and he'slike, well, we don't get paid
for what we do, we get paid forwhat we might have to do.
So that's what and that's their.
You know, that's their mindseton why they pay us what they pay
us.

Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
I tell everybody we're an insurance policy and
you don't want to use us Exactly.
We're just like the military.
You hope that they don't everget sent off the ward.
You don't want us comingbecause your house is burning
down, Somebody's broke in yourhouse or your kids've had your
kids that are in a wreck.
We're an insurance policy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Exactly, that's a good point.
So what else?
What are you doing now?
You still what all you gotgoing on in your life after the
fire stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
I'm running a safety.
So I got a little bit educated,more so, and I started a.
I started a safety businesswhile I was still in the fire
department and, uh, I've beenfortunate enough.
I work with some really largecompanies.
I got a few distilleries, I'vegot some automobile plants, uh,
so I've got, uh, you know, I letit.
It basically kind of runsitself.
I stepped away with a, I've gota business partner and we've

(01:14:06):
been fortunate over the last.
You know, we've got about 31full-time employees.
Good, that's awesome and about42 part-time and we're in
Tennessee, we're in Kentucky,we've just done really well.
So it turned out to be a reallygood retirement gig too.
A little boring because I don'tdo much anymore.
But you know, everybody sayswell, that's where you want to

(01:14:27):
get, well, it's bittersweet whenyou get there, you still like
to stay a little bit busy.
Right, I'll give harold somekudos.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
So all these firemen they retire and they need a
little money or they wantsomething to do.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Harold hires oh, that's awesome and he doesn't,
he'll.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
He'll hire somebody and something will happen and
he'll say I'm going to hireso-and-so back.
I'm like, dude, why are youhiring him back?
He goes, everybody deserves achance.
You know, I'm giving himanother chance and he'll hire he
hires a lot of firemen.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Yeah, I've got some, I've been fortunate on that side
, I've got a pretty viablebusiness.
I think, I'll sit out of itcompletely and sell my part in
the next few years.
I don't know what I'll do.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
Travel to concerts.

Speaker 6 (01:15:13):
Go dancing on bridges .

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
There's plenty of bridges to dance on.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Some it's probably not a federal offense to do so.

Speaker 5 (01:15:22):
He said he was going to crawl in Nashville, but he
wouldn't do it.
He said it's too boring.
What do you think, Doug?

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
Oh no, He'd fit in well down there.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
I'll tell you something he does.
He visits grave sites.
Me and him went to the Memphisin May Music Festival one year
and it was fun, but it was amuddy mess.
We didn't realize you need towear rubber boots for this thing
.
We were going to go find thecrossroads where Robert Johnson

(01:15:59):
sold his soul to the devilGotcha and play blue guitar.
Ross Rhodes.
Where Robert Johnson sold hissoul to the devil Got you, he
played blue guitar.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
I started finding famous people's graves about 10
years ago, so when I traveled alot.
So I've seen 119 famous people.
I've seen every mobster AlCapone, john Dillinger, bonnie
Clyde.
I've seen every music star youcan imagine.
I just got into doing it and itbecame kind of fun.

(01:16:31):
So I've seen a ton of famouspeople James Dean, jimmy Hendrix
I just see everybody's magic.
It got fun.
Then I kind of backed off of itand I ran out of people to go
find.

Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
Well, you can always look for Jimmy Hoffa.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Find him.
If you find that one, you'll befamous yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
Yeah, you're exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Wow, I don't know if that's morbid or cool.
I kind of want to go seebaseball.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
I meet girls at places and I'd say they say,
well, what do you do for fun?
I'd say, well, I like visitinggraves.
They'd be like, oh God, that'sweird.
I'd say you've got to try it.
There's a bunch of graves thathave rumors on them, like Hank
Williams Sr.
It's called Midnight inMontgomery.
You're supposed to go visit hisgrave to have forever music.

(01:17:23):
Look at midnight.
I've done that.
I've done all kinds of juststuff that's rumored Jimi
Hendrix, you know, taronCarpenter, everybody Kurt Cobain
, just people you can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
So I try to do it all but some people.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
After they do it, they'll say and that's fun,
because you've got to hunt themdown, you've got to really kind
of try to find them, you've gotto walk around these graveyards.

Speaker 5 (01:17:47):
You actually found Robert Johnson's, didn't you?

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Oh really.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
He's buried in the back of a Baptist church in the
middle of God, off from nowhere.
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Well, did you find the crossroads?

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Some of them are really hard to find.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Did you find the crossroads?
Some of them are really hard tofind.
Did you find?

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
the crossroads we did .
But there's about three or fourof them, mark, there's two but
there's only one real oneClarksdale, Mississippi.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
That's the true crossroads.
Morgan Freeman built that, yeah, so that's known as the real
crossroads.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Yeah, we had a barbecue sandwich and uh got to
keep around a little diner, butit was fun.
Then we hung out at uh bbking's blues bar there a long
time of field street had thisbeer that we've never been able
to find again.
I think it's like ghost riverbeer or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Yeah, yeah, that was fun.
Is it a federal offense todance in the moonlight at?

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
midnight at the crossroads.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
If it was, they would have found me.
Ha, ha ha, I had no luck inmoving the wall.
I'll tell you that.
Ha ha, ha Next time you'redancing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
I had no luck in losing the law, I'll tell you
that Next time you're dancing onthat, just take off running or
make them chase you up one ofthose off ramps there?

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
were four or five police officers there that night
and only one of them thought itwas funny.
I mean only one.
The rest of them were likeyou're in trouble.
I'm like, oh shit, you're introuble, buddy.
I thought everybody did it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
I'm a local fireman.
It's okay.
It's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
I had to travel back and forth to do community
service.
How long I did seven differentsessions of community service.
I actually gave a talk at ahigh school, which I thought was
a bad idea.

(01:20:00):
But I gave some communityservice doing baseball fields
for the YMCA.
Okay, the judge ended up beingsmarter than me and was very
fair.
So, boy, I thought for sure Iwas in deep, deep shit there for
a while.
Oh yeah, she used my firemanagainst me.

(01:20:21):
She goes like you, of allpeople should be smarter, she
goes.
How would I have guessed youwere dumber than all of them?

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
In your defense.
Who would have ever thoughtthat the federal government
would care about that?

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
But I did pay dearly for it.
Yeah, she told me.
One of her last words were well, I want you to know, I'm gonna
call back home, talk to yourchief, and I'm like, oh, that's
stuff too that's.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
That'll be the worst part of it, because they'll ride
you over that for the next sixmonths yeah, that stuff was
expected from harold.

Speaker 5 (01:20:59):
So they probably laughed and said don't worry,
we'll take care of it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
I've been on that end of the stick too, but that's
another story for another time.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
I got to give Harold some props.
He was a really good fireman.
That's how he stayed down therethat long.
The few fires I did make withhim I remember they were up on
the roof, big fires, Errol wasalways.
He was known as a fireman'sfireman.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Yeah, that was lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
If you're good at your job they can overlook the
shenanigans.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
I had a bunch of good people.
I was surrounded by good people, and I think that makes the
difference when you're young.

Speaker 6 (01:21:42):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
That good people and I think that makes the
difference when you're young.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Oh yeah, that's funny .
So I guess colton?

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
is colton working at the department you were at now?
Yep, yeah, he's in louisvilleand he just, he just got uh
harold.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
Harold really did some uh hard pitches for him to
get on lou.
He's always got a good name,though Of course he's got a
great name Dave.
I mean his captain had askedfor him to be moved with him,
you know.
So he's got a great brightfuture ahead of him there, a
real good future.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
And they sent him down there where I talked about,
where we did the dive rescuesand the rope rescues.
That's where he's going andhe's going on the truck.
So he's kind of excited.
I told him.
I said, well, when you want,we'll get matching truck one
tattoos.
I said that's the only tattoo Iwould get.
He said he told his captain hiscaptain was cracking up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
That's just because y'all wanted to get them on your
butt, cheeks I got.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
I just got the one tattoo.
Society's fault that's perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
The next one we're doing we're coming up.
Let's get a bunch of themtogether and we'll come up to
you guys.
How about that?

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
That's okay with me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
It'll be fun.
I like doing them live, lookingat you all yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
That makes it a little easier, I think, like you
said, you can stay and interact.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
This has been great, though it really has.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
The worst thing about that is horses and slippers in
a row.
It's weird.
I didn't want to say nothingabout it.
I feel like we're getting readyto wrap up, but it's been a
little awkward.
It's a smoking jacket.
He's Hugh Hefner over there.

(01:23:56):
I'm not so sure there'sanything on under.
It's a little odd.
I'm not saying I'm against it,I'm just saying it's weird.

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
Smoking jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
It probably wouldn't be the first time Forrest has
walked in naked then no, that'sfor sure.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
Yeah, colton said.
Boy, a lot of people have nakedstories about you, dad.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
That's good.
Somebody got a picture of meone time Doing something that
nobody ever should have seen and, man, it ended up on Christmas
cards.
So I learned that the hard way.
I still got it.
I'm like I learned that thehard way You're listing a
Christmas card to my house Istill got it.
I'm like I learned that thehard way it's in a Christmas

(01:24:49):
card in my house.
They said that card shouldarrive a day you're at work.
Your family will open it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
It's horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
It's funny.
Well, we'll save some storiesfor when we come up, so we'll
end it right here, but this hasbeen great.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
I've really enjoyed it, yeah hey, doug mate, will
you please get out there andbush hog that field where that
deer beater's at.
Yeah, I've kind of let me buy atractor.
Hey, doug man, will you pleaseget out there and bush hog that
field where that deer feeder'sat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Yeah, if, colonel let me buy a tractor.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
You may be waiting a while on that one, you have the
Congressional Budget Office.
How slow they move.

Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
All right, I'll go down there with my weed eater.

Speaker 6 (01:25:39):
I'll help you out.
Oh, that's great.
Hey how's the feeder up inHenry County?
I'll help you out.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
That's great.

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
Hey, how's the fader up in Henry County?
Okay, I'm going to leave youguys.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
Good talking to you all.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
See you, harold.
See you Harold.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Thanks for coming on.
Well, I had the last pictureabout 15 or 20 of them hanging
off the feeder and spinning out.
They probably got 70 pounds ofcorn out of there in about two
days, well, so I went up thereand put a cage around it today.

Speaker 6 (01:26:12):
Oh, you did.

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
Okay, I did.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
So the raccoons are just feasting over there.

Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
Yeah, and I think I forgot and left a wrench on the
ground.
So if they find that wrench,they'll probably just assemble
that cage.
That's a good possibility.
Them little suckers are smart.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
That's what I feed anyways.
I just throw my corn piles outfor the raccoons.
At least that's what we keeptelling the game wardens.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Yeah, we're not allowed to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:44):
Nope, you tell it on yourself't feed the raccoons?

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
I don't hunt the raccoons, ok alright, brother,
this was fun.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
We'll see you soon alright, love you, karen, love
you, doug love you too we'll beup, we'll invade alright, I'll
probably be down here prettysoon, but put some more corn in
that feeder will you just comeanytime, the raccoons welcome
you all right see you

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
all right, guys.
Hope you enjoyed that.
We'll catch you on the next onepeace out.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
I took the pretty side.