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June 5, 2025 • 30 mins

This week, we’re joined by Mike Nawrocki, best known for his work in co-creating the beloved children’s series VeggieTales, and voice of Larry the Cucumber. Mike shares the leap of faith he took with college friend and VeggieTales co-creator Phil Vischer, the setbacks and devastating losses they faced along the way to create what would become an iconic staple for families all over, and how simple stories told by talking vegetables helped people understand just how much God loves them. 

Later, we’ll hear from Jennie Smythe, the CEO of Girlilla Marketing. Through the tragic cancer diagnosis that Jennie helped her father walk through, to her own battle with breast cancer, Jennie shares how life’s challenges have shown her that her security and identity rests in Jesus alone.

 

Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:

Jesus Calling Podcast

Jesus Calling

Jesus Always

Jesus Listens

Past interview: Brandi Rhodes

Upcoming interview: Becky Murray

Jesus Calling commemorative edition

 

Mike Nawrocki

VeggieTales

Phil Vischer

Dead Sea Squirrels

Christian and Missionary Alliance

Crown College

Jim Henson

Peace Corps 

Everland Entertainment

3-2-1 Penguins

Jonah 

My Utmost for His Highest

The Pirates Who Don’t Do Anything 

Lipscomb University

Matthew West 

Mac Powell  

Ellie Holcomb

www.mikenawrocki.com

www.gominno.com

 

Jennie Smythe

Girlilla Marketing

pancreatic cancer

breast cancer

www.girlillamarketing.com

Becoming Girlilla

 

Interview Quotes:

“The Silly Songs helped the kids fall in love with Larry the Cucumber and the other characters to the point where they love this character, they trust this character, and they care what the character has to say about God making them special and loving them very much.” - Mike Nawrocki

“We lost everything, so it was a really, really tough time. For me, from a kind of a personal and spiritual standpoint, it really made it clear to me how much I needed God in my life. It's like my only security can be found in my relationship with Jesus. That's really the only truly secure thing that there is in this world.” – Mike Nawrocki

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