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April 7, 2024 • 14 mins

Jibe Talking does some interviews with members during the 2023 Commodore Ball. This episode we sit with Diane Silas who made a trip to Canada to buy a boat and sail it back to the Jolly Roger Sailing Club. She tells us about the process and some challenges she experienced during her 300 nautical mile voyage.

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(00:00):
Well, welcome to another edition of Jibe Talking.

(00:04):
I know it's been a while.
It's been a summer.
We've been out sailing our boats
and I'll be honest with you,
a lot of us had problems with our boats this year.
I had a motor problem and the Commodore had a motor problem.
The person helping to do the engineering
had a motor problem.
I got four stitches.

(00:25):
So it's been quite the summer,
but we're gonna try to come with you
with more regularity starting now,
probably through spring.
Well, we got a special show for you here tonight.
We are at the Change of Watch.
Tonight, Phil Fry will be outgoing as Commodore
and our new Commodore will be Mary Alderman.

(00:45):
So we thought we'd take advantage
of all these people assembled together
and get some stories of what went on this summer.
So why don't you introduce yourself?
I have with me somebody who had quite the travels
that we'll get her to introduce herself.
Okay, so I'm Diane Silas.
I've been a member with Jolly Roger
for about four years now.
Okay.
Yep, so my adventure this year

(01:07):
was I purchased a boat in Toronto, Canada.
And then when I retired on August the 1st,
I went up to Toronto, Canada
and sailed it back to Toledo, Ohio.
So all the details,
how long did it take for you to get back here?
Okay, so I was living on the boat for a month and a half.
Two weeks of that was stuck in Canada

(01:27):
waiting for parts to come in
because I too had motor problems.
It just must've been going around this summer.
Yeah, I think it was,
we needed to be inoculated against that.
So we're gonna start with a question for you.
How many sailboats or how many boats
do you own at this time?
I currently own six.
Maybe, no, seven, my bad, seven.
Seven boats.
Seven boats.

(01:48):
Is this like an obsession or what is the deal
with owning seven boats? Well, they're like potato chips.
You can't just have one.
My wife is not even happy that I have one,
but that's a whole other story.
So let me ask the general question.
When you go to Canada,
was it difficult in general
just to buy a boat and leave Canada with it?
Let's start with that.

(02:08):
I thought it was gonna be much harder than it was.
I prepared all kinds of documentation,
thinking I'd have to prove that the motor was EPA compliant.
When I got to Buffalo, New York
to actually check in with customs,
I had to check in on an iPad
and no one ever physically actually came to look at the boat
or collect any paperwork.
So it was easier than I thought it would be.

(02:29):
Really? That's it, huh?
That's it.
Now I might not have done it correctly.
We'll find out.
Let's not talk about that in case somebody
is listening. This in case someone
actually listens. Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I did prepare
to have all the documentations with me.
So you got the boat in Toronto.
Got the boat in Toronto.
Okay.
And then, now talk to me a little bit about,
my understanding is that there was you,

(02:51):
but there were segments of it
that you had to have extra people or something required.
Okay, so going across Lake Ontario,
I sailed solo with my dog, Patrone.
Okay. Okay.
When I got to the part where I had to go
down the Welland Canal, I have to have two crew
and the direction I'm going.
So I found some friends in Canada
and they hopped on board crew for the day.

(03:13):
And they actually are now my good friends now.
So yes.
Now the Welland Canal connects with what?
Because I'm not aware of this.
Okay, the Welland Canal connects Lake Ontario
with Lake Erie.
And you go through a shipping canal
where the container ships and the tanker trucks,
the tanker ships actually have first dibs on going through.

(03:34):
So they slot you in amongst all these tanker ships.
Now, is it a lock system?
Yes, actually there's eight locks.
The last lock is actually more of like a nod to being a lock.
But yeah, you have to go through lock gates
and you start way down on the low end.
And then in the direction I was going,
they bring you up to about four feet
from the top of the lock,

(03:55):
which actually ends up being quite a lot of water.
Now, how long does it take to traverse those locks?
Okay, the whole canal should take somewhere
between eight and 10 hours.
I probably would have gotten through a little bit sooner,
but my engine died between locks two and three.
And we were trying to get it going.

(04:17):
It was actually my high pressure fuel pump
that had conked out.
And they ended up, it's called rafting us,
and where they tie us up against the side of another boat.
So they rafted us up against a retired Coast Guard cruiser.
And he brought us the rest of the way through the locks.
So then after, okay, so let's start.
You got the boat in Toronto.

(04:37):
Correct.
And then you went across Lake Ontario.
Correct.
And you had no problems.
No problems at all.
Okay.
And then when you got to the lock system,
that's when all the fun began.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
So then they rafted, they brought you through the locks.
Then what did they do then?
Take you to a port?
No, they dropped me off.
The Coast Guard guy dropped me off at the city docks

(04:59):
that were like still within the lock system.
It was like at the very end of the locks
that one of my crew members went and got his sailboat.
And he rafted me and brought me to a marina,
which was I was gonna stay there anyway.
So they dropped me off at the end of the marina docks.
And I stayed there for two weeks
while I was waiting for parts to come in from the United.
Okay. So you waited for two weeks.
Now, did you put the parts in yourself

(05:22):
or did somebody at the marina do that?
I actually had to hire a mechanic.
Once the parts came in, the mechanic came out.
He did that for me.
Not to be funny, but that time of year,
it's amazing you could even get a mechanic
within a two week period to come out.
I agree.
And it's like the only reason they didn't wanna come out
is because I didn't have the part on hand
and it would take them two weeks

(05:43):
to remanufacture my existing fuel pump.
Okay. So then right now you are in a marina
just outside the lock system.
Now, are you in Canada or the United States?
No, that's very much still Canada.
Okay.
I don't hit landfall in the United States
till I got to Buffalo, New York, which was my next stop.
Okay. So they got you fixed.

(06:04):
They got me fixed.
And then you went from there to Buffalo?
To Buffalo, New York.
Now, how long did that take?
About. Just a day.
You know, it's, I generally, my sailing ended up taking
about six to seven hours each day or not less.
Cause I would generally do
about 30 to 40 nautical miles in a day.
And you're by yourself at this point?
Yes, just me and the dog.
Now the boat, your boat set up,

(06:25):
did you have a jib furler on it?
Yes, I have a roller furler.
All my lines are run to the cockpit.
Okay.
So once I was underway, I did not go forward at all.
I wore my life vest and I had a lifeline clipped
to the boat and I had a line that ran from the cockpit
up to the front of the boat.

(06:46):
In case I had to go forward,
I would just like re-clip onto that line.
And that would take.
Like a lazy jet, not lazy jet,
what do they call it, jack lines?
Yeah, like a jack line.
Is that what they call it?
I don't know. I think that is what they call it.
Oh, we'll just call it that.
No one's gonna listen to it anyways.
Yeah, that sounds right.
So then on your vest, then you,
did you have like something you hooked one end of the vest
and one end of the line when you would go forward?
Yes. Okay.
So you got the Buffalo, then did you go,

(07:08):
did you have to stay there for a while?
No, I stayed there overnight
because it was already getting later.
And then the next morning I took off
and started on my route back.
Cause I had to go across the entire route of Lake Erie.
Right. So then Buffalo, you sail from Buffalo to where?
I believe it was Dunkirk.
Now where's Dunkirk?
Dunkirk is southwest of Buffalo.

(07:32):
It's all along the southern edge.
So it's still in New York?
It's still in New York, yes.
Okay, so you went from Buffalo to Dunkirk,
stayed overnight.
Stayed overnight.
And then you went from Dunkirk to?
Dunkirk to, I believe it was Coneyot.
Okay. And we had actually-
That's Ohio.
That is actually Ohio.
No, wait, excuse me, Dunkirk to Presque Isle,
which is in Pennsylvania.

(07:52):
Okay.
So I actually anchored out at Presque Isle State Park.
I highly recommend, that was really pretty.
That was nice?
Yeah, very, very nice.
Now that's on Lake Erie.
That, this is all on Lake Erie now.
So the state park, it has kind of a protected anchorage then?
Yes, there is a protected anchorage.
Where I was at, it was,

(08:13):
I didn't even actually enter where the marina was
because there's actually physically a marina there.
And you can actually anchor outside of the marina,
but I actually anchored out on a little cove
before you entered into that area.
Now, how did you know that you were allowed to anchor there?
Did you just ask, did you have a guide book
or how did you know?
Actually, Neil, Neil actually loaned me his Richardson guide

(08:35):
for Lake Erie, which was very helpful.
Oh, Neil Whitehead?
Yeah, Neil Whitehead.
Okay, all right.
Which allowed, which told me where I could anchor out,
where I couldn't anchor out, what I was allowed to do.
It told me where all the marinas were.
So it was actually quite handy to have a Richardson's guide
when you go on a long journey like that.
Now, did you have a dinghy to get to shore

(08:58):
or did you just anchor and stay on that?
I just anchored and we stayed on.
I could have brought a kayak,
but then I would have had to take that over into Canada
on my car and find a way to stow it on the boat somehow.
It would have been annoying.
So we just basically stayed on the boat.
So when you anchored out there,
and then the next day you went to Conyot,
probably there, right?
Yes, next day was Conyot.
And then it's like, I had to stay in Conyot

(09:19):
for a couple of days because of the weather.
Yeah, I remember watching,
it seems like there was a big blow that came in.
Yeah.
You had some pretty big,
the lake was getting kind of nasty.
Yeah, it was.
It's like, I tried going out a couple of times
and I had to turn around and come back
because Lake Erie was just very angry.
It's like I was fighting just to even get anywhere.
So I decided to be safe than sorry,

(09:41):
was best to kind of hang out where I was at.
Now, how big, how many feet long was the boat
that you bought?
Okay, it's a 25 foot bay field.
Two feet of that is actually the bow sprit.
So functionally it's a 23 foot boat,
but it is, it's called a 25 foot boat.
And that was just Phil Fry, the outgoing Commodore.

(10:03):
And the reason is he has no common sense
because we were currently having a podcast
and he asked me for a pair of pliers.
We probably are gonna leave this in
because it'll make him look goofy.
But anyways,
now Phil's a good guy.
Phil's a good guy.
So 23 now.
23 feet.
Will you be able to bring it in to Jolly to dock?
Actually, when I parked at the end of the season,

(10:25):
when I got done with my trip, I was at Jolly.
Okay, so you will be able to leave it at Jolly.
I will be able to leave it at Jolly.
Now going out toward Turtle Island
to take it to Anchor Point to pull out,
I was bumping on the bottom.
So.
Phil does that all the time when he boats.
Yeah, I understand that.
We call him running around Phil now.
You'll hear about that later tonight.
Oh, how fun.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Stay away from a running around Phil.

(10:45):
There's even a song about him.
I believe it.
Wait until you hear it.
Oh, I'm looking forward to that.
Oh, he's not, but he doesn't know about that part.
So he won't listen to this ahead of time.
So go ahead.
I might actually try and put the boat
on the Mommy River system.
Oh.
That way it puts me a little closer
to getting out to places like West Sister and things
where I won't have to like make a whole leap out
to get to Minkies to go out and to do my big trips.

(11:07):
So you like to go to West Sister.
You like to get eaten by flies, I take it.
It wasn't too bad actually.
I sailed past it.
When, how close?
I was probably within two, 300 feet of it.
You got real lucky.
I must have.
You know the flies are like so bad.
It's like, you can't, it's horrible.
That's a nice sail though.

(11:28):
You get behind, were you behind or in front of it?
I was in front of it.
I was trying to avoid Lake Perry or Camp Perry
because they had their firing range.
So I remember that I had put that in the skull dogger
about the firing range.
Yeah, that was, by the way, that's very helpful.
Yeah, I kept it in.
I kept it in for a while.
Cause it's like, I figure anyone going out sailing
might still need to know that.
And it's like, I took that and I took along the information

(11:50):
about the Lake Erie weather and the water ship
that was supposed to be out there.
I didn't see it.
So I don't get the, yeah, I didn't get Phil's $10, you know
reward for finding it first.
I don't know if anyone else did.
You know, she brought up something
that some of you listening may not know depending
on which end of the lake you sail on.

(12:10):
But we have a Camp Perry, which is an Army National Guard
base, I think is what it is.
And they practice firing weapons out over the lake.
So you have to know what days are firing.
And if they're firing, it's marked off
and you have to stay north or you have to stay away from it.
That's what she was talking about.

(12:31):
But by the way, have you been on the backside of West sister?
No, I actually didn't.
It looks like Jurassic Park back there.
I will have to circumnavigate that next time.
It's well worth it.
It is awesome back there.
And it's like, you just imagine you're gonna see
a T-Rex slide in there.
It's just, you're like, whoa.
That does sound pretty cool.
I saw a lot of birds and stuff when I was there,
but I didn't see any T-Rex.

(12:52):
That's the thing.
It's a bird sanctuary.
Was it cormorans or something like that?
Yeah, cormorans.
I think I'm making that up.
I don't know.
No, actually there was a lot of cormorans.
Yeah.
That and water snakes, I guess.
Oh, I'm glad I didn't get off the boat.
I don't think you're allowed to get off the boat.
I think it's a restricted area.
People do, but you're not really supposed to.
You're not supposed to.
So then you got your boat and it sounds like,
so then you went to Conyat and then you-

(13:12):
After Conyat, I think I went to, oh shoot, what was next?
I think it might've been Lorraine.
Okay.
Lorraine was nice.
Right.
Okay.
Lorraine actually was, they treated me very well there.
I don't know if anybody's been out that way,
but it's a nice marina.
Okay.
Okay.
Then I think I went to Kelly's Island.

(13:33):
Okay.
And then from Kelly's, I went to Minky.
Okay.
For the last bash.
I actually made it in time for that.
We saw you there.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And then it was back to Jolly.
That sounds like quite the trip that you had.
It was great.
I would do it again.
Would you do it again?
You would do it again.
Oh, in a heartbeat.
In a heartbeat.
If I could figure out where to place to store three dogs

(13:55):
on that boat, I would be going out, you know,
as soon as spring hit.
So going to Canada,
cause I wanted to do that this summer
and just kind of as an aside,
you're saying that that's not even worth worrying about.
If you're going to go over there,
it's pretty easy to check in and stuff.
Yeah.
They have a website or an app for your phone called
Rome, CP Rome or something like that.

(14:15):
I can tell you more later about that.
Yeah. I would love to,
because I want to go over to Leamington.
I heard it's very nice.
Okay.
Yeah. And it's like,
you just check on online with that website
and then it shows you're good to go.
Okay.
You just kind of like tell them where you're,
when you're going to come in and how long you're staying.
Well, that's quite an adventure.
I thank you very much for joining us
and sharing that with us.
You're very welcome.

(14:36):
I highly suggest it.
300 nautical miles is fun for anyone to do.
If I can do it, you can.
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