Finding a Soulful Love: Lucinda Johnson's Journey of Heart and Storytelling

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we gonna get to interview an author Yes Someone who writes.
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Let's do the intro Alright, let's do this drum roll Let's do the intro trail perfect
oh that was a good one miss lucinda johnson
is a native of jacksonville and currently resides in drexel
hill pa recently she authored her
first novel titled finding a soulful love which centers on the journey taken
by the main character cynthia as she begins to search for love this masterpiece

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and page turner has been featured in author reputation i'm sorry author reputation Conversation Press,
and the Reading Glass Bookstore in New Jersey, just to name a few.
Ms. Lucinda is also an executive at the Consortium Incorporated and has received
her BS in accounting from Cheney University.
Shout out to Cheney. Shout out to Cheney.

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Ms. Lucinda is an author, a storyteller, an executive, a realist,
a communicator, an advocate for love and peace, a mom and a grandma.
I like to describe her as persevering, resolute, purposeful,
ardent, modest, embracing, sincere, passionate, honest, conscious and revered.

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Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to Ms. Lucinda Johnson.
Welcome to the show, Ms. Lucinda. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
Thank you for coming on. Thank you for coming on.
T, let's give her a little, let's give her some more, T. Let's give her some more things.
If you insist. I insist, T. I insist.

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So, when I want to say our friends found out that Ms.
Lucinda Johnson was going to be joining us here in the studio,
oh, they all had some nice things to say.
Oh, they had some stuff to say, huh? Oh, yeah, they had some nice things to
say. What'd they say, T? What'd they say? So, you know what I mean?
And so I was like, who am I to hold this information for myself?
So let's share it with our radio audience. All the nice things they had to say

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about Miss Lucinda Johnson.
If you can see her face right now, if you can see her face, you would pay money for that. OK.
OK, so here we go. The first one that I'm reading right here is from Miss Angie
Reed. I think you may know her.
Yeah. Shout out to Miss Angie. I'm going to be a friend.
OK. It says Lucinda Johnson reminds me of an oyster.

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The outer shell may be hard, so you think,
but when you crack it open, getting to know her, seeing her heart is the same
as laying your eyes on the delicate, priceless, rare pearl. Oh, right.
If you are in her heart, love flows. She is committed. She's giving. She expresses empathy.

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She is a sensitive woman who has encountered and pushed through adversity.
She is an author and telling her life story, which means she is courageous.
She is a loving and supportive mother and my mom.
And the list can go on and on. Lucinda Sen is my friend and my sister.

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I love and support her to the moon and back.
Again, this is from Miss Angie Reed.
Thank you, Angie. I appreciate you, Miss Angie. Right? Yeah,
we all love Miss Angie, right?
Okay well it doesn't stop there Because I have another one here Now this one
Is from Miss Pam Miss Pam Washington we love Miss Pam Miss Pam Hey Miss Pam.

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So this is what Miss Pam Has to say She says we started as co-workers Now I
call her friend Lucinda is the most kind Loyal and strongest woman I know She
is by far One of the funniest Okay?
You're a woman a man needs. Looking forward to our future erotic novel. Oh.

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Miss Pam. Love you. Miss Pam. Say that again. That is Miss Pam.
Miss Pam. Okay.
Now, this next one. I'll do this.
Now, this next person is a person who has a person of many words.

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Oh, I know who this is. But he kept it short and sweet. I know who this is. This is Mr. John Deal.
Okay. Yes. Mr. John Deal. Okay. Now, Mr.
John Deal says, Lucinda is one of the most thoughtful and considerate humans I've known.
She always lets you know if you're doing good or not. I admire that in her.

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We love Mr. John. Mr. John is like very, very quiet.
He's the person that you don't know is there, but he's there.
You know what I mean? Shout out to Mr. John.
Yes. Right? Quiet assassin, as I say. Yeah, that kind of person.
Okay, and like I said, it doesn't stop there.
Got more to read. It's okay.
Okay, so this one, next one, comes from Ms. Janellen Reese.

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Okay, Ms. Janellen says, I met Lucinda Johnson in November of 2010 and instantly
formed a work relationship with her.
We shared and still share family
stories and women-related issues and situations that created our bond.
Lucinda proved to be inspirational, encouraging, and yet sometimes bossy.

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But that is why we at the consortium love her. Congratulations on the success of your book.
And we look forward to the next one. And again, that was from Ms. Janelle and Reese.
Oh, yes. Guys are just awesome. It's not done yet.
It's not done yet. We're going to read some more.
We're going to hold those and we're going to read those after the break because

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I want to make sure we keep those in. Okay.
Ms. Lucinda, how are you feeling right now? You're right over there, Ms. Lucinda.
You didn't have an intro you didn't have people talk about you,
she did not tell me this was gonna take place,

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it's all good things all good things showing nothing but love you saw you saw
in the office all day walking back and forth she didn't tell you nothing huh not a thing not at all.
So you go ahead with your first question sis okay oh well oh here
we are all right well let's here we go are you
ready miss lucinda well you know what what's

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up can i can i get a description of what what
i think her book how how of course you can of course
you can so ladies and gentlemen i took
time out to read a little bit of miss lucinda's book i'm kind of upset because
i didn't finish reading all of it you know because that's what happens when
you're real busy or whatever but from what I read oh my goodness okay so here

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we go just just I mean if you haven't got the book if you didn't buy the book
you really need to because this is where we at with it,
okay this book gives me Shonda Rhimes, Lee Daniels, Ava DuVernay,
and Tyler Perry all rolled up in one.
OK, so it's going to give you the drama of Shonda Rhimes, the dramatic storytelling

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like the butler by Lee Daniels, the family history like Ava DuVernay.
You know how she describes things in the TV show Queen Sugar and a plot twist
from every Tyler Perry show I've ever watched.
Her book is just a good. You really need to read it.
OK, and that's just me how I feel about your book.

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And that's just me reading a couple of a couple of, you know,
a couple of pages. I saw some reviews too.
People have really been talking about what the book means to them and how the
book has touched their own lives and is shared.
The story that was shared is a story of other people as well.

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And they felt like they could relate to it so personally. Unfortunately,
and I know just reading the research that I've done, I just I could just see
people really connecting with the novel itself.
Thank you. And I think that that takes a sometimes when you tell your story,
I'm not going to say it's your story.
Sometimes when you tell a story, it's important that you connect with the reader.

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And I felt like just reading from the reviews, a lot of people just connected
genuinely to this novel. So with that being said, I know you got a question. Yeah, I do.
So going off of what Jimmy said, we need to know, is this book fact or fiction?
Well, it's a little both. Okay. Because I write from experience.

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Okay. And then, of course, I extended on my characters in regards to those experiences.
Okay. So, okay. I get you. Fake with a little bit of fiction in there. Yes. Okay.
Got to make it juicy. Got to make it juicy. Got to make it juicy.
That's like Tyler Perry coming out of you.

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Yes. So, Ms. Johnson, what made you want to write this book?
Well, it initially started out with poems that I used to write for a friend of mine.
And he enjoyed reading them and thought that I was good at putting words together.
They were romantic poems that I would give to him.

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So he suggested that I write a book.
He said, you have a very creative mind, so you should write a book.
So I took him up on it, sat down one day and started writing,
and it just came to life. Mm-hmm.
Now, did finding a soulful love start out as a poem, and it just went off? Blossom.

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The blossom? Yes, it did start out as a poem. Okay.
And then it also includes family love and friendship love as well,
because your love doesn't just go to companionship.
You want to have a soulful love with anybody that's in your vicinity,

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that travels with you, that works with you, that lives with you,
that you share yourself with. Okay.
Yes. I mean, that's a good segue because I feel the same way.
Like, you know, love is, the soulful love is not just, like you said, companionship.
So my question is, why was Teresa and Christine so vital to Cynthia's journey?

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They were vital in terms of family. I lived in Jacksonville with my grandmother,
who I thought was, or Cynthia thought was, her mother.
And when she moved from Jacksonville to Philadelphia, she thought she was leaving

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because her grandmother thought she was a little fast.
And she wanted to get her away from the boys in Jacksonville.
So she brought her to Philadelphia.
But once she got there, that's when she realized that the whole premise of the
move was to, because she was sick and she felt that I should be with my real
family now, my real mother.

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And that's why she found out that the mother was there.
And she couldn't quite grasp being in this whole new environment. garment.
So she had to find someone that she could relate to and that's where Teresa came in at.
That's an interesting piece. And then with Christine, she was a college.

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She was Cynthia's college friend.
They kind of met. They were both kind of walking through campus and lost.
So they connected on those terms and then they became friends ever since.
And then when she met her family, Christine's family just took her in as if
she was always there. Embracing.

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And she just embraced her. Yeah. And they just became a family and she felt
good with that and she became a vital part of her life. Back on.
I know this is a fiction, but it has a lot of personal sides to it.
Yeah. So, the story of Cynthia, is that your story?

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Yes. Okay. So, in reading that and understanding that, there are many people
who were raised by their grandparents.
Many. There's a lot of people who were raised by their grandparents. Yeah.
And can you share a bit of what it was like to find out, if you can, if you can share that?
Can you share a bit of what it was like when you found out that your grandmother

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wasn't your mom, but your grandmother? What was that like for you?
But it was devastating at first because it changed your whole world. Right.
And then you realize that, yes, a lot of people are raised by their family members,
grandmothers, aunts, uncles.

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You have that. That's not something that doesn't exist.
But in this case, it was more so that you were raised with your grandmother,
but you didn't know that you were raised with your grandmother.
That's the essence of that knowledge. So once that knowledge became a part of

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you, then it was harder because you felt like you met more siblings.
So it's not like you wasn't the only one. So it's like you're raising all of
these other children and then you still have this one and you're not.
So that makes it hard to come back and jump into that environment.

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It's not like everybody was raised by somebody different in the family.
It was just you. Just you. So a bit of isolation in a sense.
Yes, very much so. Yeah, that's major. T, my bad. Go ahead. Okay.
What made you want to write this book? I mean, I know you said it started off
as poems and it kind of flew from there, but what made you really want to like

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just write a book and just throw it out there?
It became therapy for me, a lot with dealing with past history.
I was able to put it paper to pen, pen to paper, and it kind of released some of that frustration.
It's kind of released some of that anger that was there from the whole point. Right.

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And then I'm going to say that love always had this idea of what I thought it would be.
OK. So being able to write it down and then realize that a lot of these things
that you were always fantasizing about or dreaming about were actually coming to a reality.
Gave you another purpose to say, okay, I want to put this down to pen,

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to paper, so other people can read this and they can see that those dreams can come true.
Very nice. I know. Right? I know. I know.
I mean, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And were you afraid to write this story?
I mean, what was the point in your life when you said, you know what?

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I need to write this and put it in a book?
I wasn't afraid initially. Okay. One, that it wouldn't be what I was trying
to do, that it would be the book that I wanted it to be.
But as the more I wrote, the more I saw it happening, the more I realized that
this could be a good book.

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And the fear just evaporated and it just became enjoyable.
Okay. And I just had fun just writing it for the rest of that is,
you know, a mixture of fiction and experience.
When you bring it together, you're like, oh, did I just write that?
Right. And, you know, I say, you know, that that didn't happen,

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but it could have happened. You know, this fantasy was there,
you never thought it could be there, but it's a fantasy that you can make real.
Because a lot came from TV, certain shows that you watch, you had that fear
of doing those certain things.
But then you say, okay, well, if I want to make it real, I need to try it.

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So that helped to make the book easier to write. So if I say I want to have
this little thing where I drive up and down the highway in boomerang,
but if you don't experience it, when you write it, you can't feel what you're writing.
So with the experience of it, it helped me to feel what I was writing to make it more real.

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So with that being said, did you go to different places, different environments?
Yes. And from there you...
Yes, the club scene.
He was partying in the club. You're getting down over there,
Mr. Sender. Is that what was going down?
He was in the party. Yeah, going into the club.

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Not being out there, you know, raising kids and being married and not being in that scene.
And then by the time you go back to it, you're kind of like out of the loop of things.
So, you know, the first experience was you got to dress with me.
Like a deer headlight so what's going on here you know why is no one asking

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me to dance and it's well maybe because you dress like you you know looking
for your husband in the club,
that's a no-no right she must be looking for somebody when she's dressed only
thing missing is the bonding on her head, right?
I get it. I definitely get it.

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And during that time, a lot of folks were doing the booty dance and you turn
around and I'm like, no. That ain't me.
I'm a cup of tea. I'm two-stepping over here.
So, you know, I go over on the quiet side where the older folks are sitting
and let these young folks have their space over here. She was doing research.

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That's all she was doing.
That's market research that's what she did yeah you had
to do that research if you want to feel what you write
for sure so that your readers can feel what
you're writing because they could say i did the
same thing when i was in the club same thing happened to me yeah you know it
makes it more real for the reader yeah don't look for your mate in the club

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y'all please they might be there but they might not be there and and we in the
club so in some way shape or form something's jaded so So just make sure that
you don't look for that person in the club. They not listen.
You need to be sober because you're not sober. You'll make some mistakes. My bad.
I didn't find my soulmate in the club. Thank God. Right.

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I mean, many people have, many people have, but I'm just saying. Right. Right.
I'm going to read a passage to you. Now, I would like for you to explain what
this passage might mean.
And this isn't a passage from the book, but this is something I saw that was written about the book.
So I'm going to read this to you. You tell me what this means or what it means to you.
May this work remind the readers that love, that there is love that does not require perfection.

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When you hear that, as far as perfection, a lot of us feel like love has to
be perfect. It has to be a perfect thing.
But often it has to be perfect for us instead of perfect for what we might think love is.
That's true. So from your experience and even from your writing,
what does that statement mean to you? The perfectionist. the perfection of it.

(21:57):
I would say that that means that, like you said, the two individuals that are
in that relationship see their own perfection of that relationship.
It's not based on what other people think.
It's not based on what society thinks. It's based on what the two of you think

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that you're giving to each other.
And that makes your union what it should be in your mind.
Yeah. And you leave the outside out of it.
And I think you're hitting home on something because I think a lot of times
we get into relationships and we think about what it portrays in society.

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How this person or these people have to be in this relationship according to
what society says these people should be.
And I think, like you said, it has to be perfection within those two individuals.
With those two individuals. And how they feel about each other.
And that's the perfection of it. Their own union. Exactly. Their own union.

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I'm digging that, Mr. Senta. I like that a lot. I mean, I'm a hopeful romantic,
not a hopeless romantic, a hopeful romantic.
So I can say that, you know, thinking about the concept of the book,
what it's about and and never giving up on that love, never giving up to to to know that it's there.

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The one word that stands out from the title for me is soulful.
Yes. Exactly. What's soulful? What is it?
What is, why did you title it finding a soulful love instead of finding love? Love.
You don't just feel that love in your heart. You feel it in your spirit.
That's, that's the difference there is in, is in your spirit.

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You still feel you, you, You feel something just sort of flows through you when
you're in that person's presence.
You can still feel like day one, day 20, they still feel the same.
Year one, year 20, it still feels the same.

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You haven't changed your heart or your spirit just because he or she may do
something that you don't like. It's just all part of the relationship.
It's all part of that union. You are there to please your mate and your mate is there to please you.
And you're not trying to compete with each other.

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You're just being together and doing what you think she enjoys and what she thinks he enjoys.
You're looking at each other and not at yourself.
Definitely. Definitely. I love it. T, my bad. Go ahead, sis. Okay.
Let me see. Have you found your soulful love partner yet?

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Yes. You there? I have. How does that feel?
I see him today as I saw him day one.
Okay. When I see that he calls, it brightens up my day.
There are times when it feels like when I'm at stress, especially with work,

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it's almost like he knows when i'm
in that mode and he can text me
something that just puts a smile on my face and just makes everything better
so and that's after being together for several years okay and i still get like
butterflies when i'm around him i still just want to just Just grab them and

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hold them and not let them go.
I love it. And this is 20 years later. I love it. That's kind of awesome.
If you can find that mate.
If you out there and you need to find that. That's what you need to find.
I don't care. Don't scroll on Instagram for this. You got to find that type
of love, that soulful love. Man, I'm telling you. Let me tell you.

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Let me tell you. It's definitely not what other people think. Okay.
It's only what you think. It's only what you feel and what you are giving in that relationship.
You're not even looking to say, if I give him this, will he give me that?
I'm just giving what my heart wants to give and he will receive it or not receive it.

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And if he's receiving it, then you know it's good. Okay.
That's for sure. Sure. It does. Yes. Ms. Johnson, what challenges,
if any, did you have when writing your book?
The challenge was at the beginning, you know, with the fear of writing in the
first place, not thinking that I could write a book to start.

(26:58):
Like, you know, where do you start? You know, what's your plot?
Are you going to be able to come up with this? What do you have to do to make all this happen?
And being a hermit, it wasn't that easy because you had to come out of your shell to do a little bit.
So it was the fear was there. But once I got comfortable with it,

(27:19):
I think by the time I got to the,
I guess it's like chapter 15, where I started talking about the companionship love,
then that part just kind of flowed. So then it became easy.
The girls club that we that is in the book that that part was fun because,

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you know, you like hanging out with your girlfriends because we have we have
girls meetings and outings every now and then.
And you see how much fun and it's enjoyable.
So the experience started happening and everything started flowing.
It was just it was easy. Yeah, it was easy. It was very easy after that.
Once you get past it and you'd be surprised, as long as you have a creative

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mind, you can write a book.
The creativity is definitely there. I think I may write one.
That's real. You'll be surprised at how you can just take one sentence of something
that you enjoy and you can turn that into a couple of pages.

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Because you can just make it more creative and expand on a thought.
Thought it's like i always say like when i'll be writing writing lyrics it
takes one bar and next thing you know you got a whole song yeah and
so it's it's the it's the the jump start remember i tell you this morning let
me jump my brain let me get my brain jumping yeah let me get my brain jumping
because that creative you got to tap into that creative side of yourself yes

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one of the things i wanted to know you know okay i wasn't stalking you but i
was doing some research on you yeah and i know you're very family or she said
she saw i'm over here liking stuff let me
like this yes I like
that too but one of the things I noticed
is that you're very family oriented and and you have a you have a base within
your family the family you created yes and my my question is what was the response

(29:17):
of your family after you wrote this book what what did they what did they feel
once they saw the responses from what from from the book itself what did they say Well,
they were good because I didn't say anything that they would be, they were mad about.
Okay. So my youngest son, he just didn't want to see a whole lot of sex.

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Because he still thinks mom is supposed to be mom. Yeah. Well,
you ain't never going to change, right? Yeah, that's not going to change for him.
He was okay when he realized that it wasn't a dirty, dirty.
According to Miss Pam, it's coming. The next one comes. Now that one he probably
won't read. See where Miss Pam done started. Right.

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He's still a mama's boy, so he's still protective. So, you know,
he didn't want to know that mom had relationships.
But my friends enjoyed reading it. And the family, when they read it,
they just felt like I had a lot going on.
And they would say, okay, we didn't know that this was part of your emotion.

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So they consider it to be a telltale story.
Because, you know, being in the family and being based on experiences,
they can see where they all fall into it.
Oh, that's what that was. But, you know, what's interesting about that is that
there are some aspects of my own mother's life that I wish I knew.
Relationships or whatever it is, I wish I had known some of those experiences

(30:54):
that she went through because I think I would understand her better.
That's true. You know, so. You would. Even though I know your son is probably
like, you know, Mom, I don't want to hear all this.
But we don't share a lot with our children about things that we think that they
don't need to know about.
And sometimes when you reveal yourself to him he kind of be like a shock value

(31:16):
like oh mom I didn't even know that,
And so did you receive a lot of, a lot of, mom, I had no clue.
Yes. Okay. I did have a lot of that.
You know, we didn't know that you, you know, you, you went through this,
even though we know that a lot of it is expanded and that it didn't all exactly
happen to you, but it was the, the core of it that did.

(31:38):
Yeah. And then they saw that and they were like, oh, okay. But my youngest,
he doesn't want to know stuff about me, but he has no problems telling me everything about his son.
Guess what happened? You ain't going to believe this. Guess what happened? Like my ears, my ears.

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Sometimes I think he forgets that I'm not your friend. I didn't need to know all of that.
Yeah. So with my siblings,
you know, by not growing up with them and they when you're in a gathering and
they're talking about all their experiences that they had, you do feel isolated

(32:21):
because you wasn't there to experience that as well.
And then it kind of brings back up those emotions. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, no matter how old we get, I think those things still stay,
particularly with family.
I mean, my story wasn't like yours exactly, but I have a whole side of my family I don't know.

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I don't know who they are. I mean, I do know I know them. I know who they are
as face and last name and everything, but I don't know them.
Right right and you know like
you said you would come around them and they would have these experiences that you
weren't a part of and it wouldn't make you feel like man it's
kind of weird like i know we blood family but i
don't really know you i don't know you yeah you know and and i guess it's just

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to some extent having having even based in the story but having people outside
of the family that you create or you make your family or you're taking in or
something out of like gives you a different understanding of.
Who you are. Yes. I love my family that I have created in my life these days.

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They are beautiful people. Yeah. And they're there for you. Your core.
What you've created. What you know you need for yourself.
And yeah, I mean, I speak on that all the time because it's critical.
You have to create places and people or you have to create spaces with people
that not just beneficial, but pour into you and add value to who you are and

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appreciate you for who you are.
And I can see that that piece in the story was a critical aspect in terms of
just you kind of looking at things differently.
Yes. They, they, they accepted me for who I am and not for who they wanted me
to be. They just took me as I was.
So you, so it makes it more genuine.

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Definitely. Definitely. T. Okay. So how long did it take you to write this book?
It took about a year to write it because, you know, I was working.
So I did have to put it down here and there.
Then there were times when the parts that would come up, that would be very

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emotional because there's a lot of emotion in the book as well.
So during those times, you had to step back.
Take a break. Take a break, get yourself back, and then you can come back and
finish working on it. Okay.
Yeah. And then because it's emotional, it's fun.
There are some tears. Right. And there's some you go girl. Oh,

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yeah. A lot of you go girl.
Okay. So that's about a year. Okay.
Okay. And then I guess my next question is, because this all happened a while
ago, so why now versus why not then?

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I guess I can say I wasn't in that place.
I didn't have someone to inspire me
to write a book because no one's ever suggested to me that I write a book.
So I've had relationships and I've
given them poems, but no one's never accepted them the way that he did.

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So that gave me that encouragement because he inspired me to do it.
He encourages a lot of things that I do.
So that gave me the strength to go ahead and do that.
He was my main supporter. Yeah.
It's nice to be heard. Yes, he heard me. Yeah, he did.

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He did. So, yeah, he's the first person that just said, you should write a book.
And, you know, I was already enjoying life at that point.
So I said, why not? Give it a try. There you go.
That's a wow. What is the message in the book? The message in the book is that love is out there.

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Don't give up. Don't put yourself in situations that doesn't give you love,
that you feel you have to do it because you have no choice.
You do have a choice and you should, one, love yourself.
And once you love yourself and you know what you want to give of yourself,

(36:54):
then you can go ahead and find that love that you're looking for.
It's not it's it's only hard if you don't love yourself and if you accept what
you don't want to accept you might want to do a few speaking engagements.
Tell her right and had a book there as well,

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oh yeah by the way if you're looking for miss lucinda i got her email for you
okay yeah it's it's it's it's an experience it's just that you don't have to
settle I realized that I did not have to settle. You learn.
Your experiences, your history, your past is your experience.
And you're supposed to learn from your experience.

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You're not supposed to keep thriving on what's not good.
You're supposed to take that and move to what's better for it.
But, you know, you said something because people can go through through relationships
or even through family and have traumatic experiences and, you know, be hurt by it.
And I'm never doing that again. They could have that kind of philosophy.

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I'm never doing that again. Like, I will never do that again.
And sometimes I think I generally think people want to be loved and people want
to give love in a general kind of sense. They do.
And as much as people talk about, you know, I'm cool by myself. I'm fine.
Sometimes that's true. But sometimes sometimes there's there is a need for companionship.

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I think God put us on a planet to be alone, to be alone. I don't I just don't
I don't believe that. Right. So I was always fascinated just by.
That if you really want to find love, you won't give up on it.
No matter how the experiences that you've had, the hurt that you've been through,
the trauma that you've been through, you still won't give up on it.
You still won't give up on it. If you really want to find that person in your

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life, you can be good by yourself. You can.
I'm not saying you can't, but we all want to be loved.
Right. And sometimes you can even be in that love and don't know it because,
again, you're too busy, you know, listening to what other people say about their relationship.
So you're trying to base yours on that. Or you're too busy saying,

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OK, the little things that really doesn't mean that much, you emphasize on them.
And then the person that you're with will get to a point where they're like, I've done all I can do.
You still want to be this way because of what outside influence is bringing to you.

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And you end up losing somebody that's good.
That's why you can also find that sometimes that person that you were with 10
years ago that you left because of all the pettiness.
You realize you're going through a couple of relationships and they're not working out.
And then you can end up being back with that person because you realize all

(39:54):
the stuff that you was doing was causing that person not to be with you at that time.
But now you have grown and you can see the importance of it.
And then you can kind of bring yourself back together because you do see a lot
of relationships out there that reunite after so many years.
Because you know what? Like I say all the time, you know, people ask me,

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oh, did you ever regret such and such a relationship? And I'm like,
no, each relationship that I've been in have all been learning lessons.
There's a song, Eric Robeson. Okay.
He has a song. Find a love, find a way, find a love.
The other one that says, if it wasn't for all my past love, let me to you. Is that past paradise?

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She turned me on to that song when i was
doing i was doing a interview a
zoom interview and that was then they asked me for a song and she sent me that
song and i listened to it and when you listen to it it literally tells you that
you know all the past failures i've had led me to you Would you say that,

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you know, just based on your experience, your lens,
would you say that finding a soulful love is different based on generations
or based on your experience?
Experience. Experience. I would say more experience.
With generations, I think things change based on generations,

(41:31):
again, because you're looking at what other people were doing. Okay.
You know, you say, okay, back in the day, you know, it was okay for the word submissive to be used.
Oh, for sure, back in the day. Yeah, back in the day it was okay.

(41:55):
The same thing yeah that they were doing back then but
you just don't want that word it's a trigger to be
it's a trigger yep but you are taking care
of your man so but just don't call me submissive point taken time point just
remember just remember don't don't call it submissive time it's not in my vocabulary

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i am removing it just don't use the word yeah but i can still take care Yeah,
you like my grandma took care of my grandfather.
Definitely. They had no problems with that word. We seem to have a problem with it.
I mean, I don't know why we have a problem with it, but I guess we do, don't we? Yeah, we do.
Major. Society has changed. Yeah. And that 50-50 thing.

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Oh, for sure. You don't like the 50-50 either? I'm just saying,
you know, I grew up in an era where, you know, the men used to be the breadwinners
and the moms stay home with the children.
And the moms tended to the house. And now it's mom and dad both have jobs.
Mom and dad both have to tend to the house and tend to the children.

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So, yeah, it's a 50-50 situation now. But back in the day, it all fell on the
breadwinner, who most likely was the father.
You want to know why? Because bread cost 50 cent back then.
That's why. Yeah. It was a whole little different time. A whole little situation.
You know, I say 50 cent. It probably was a quarter to a nickel to a quarter
back then. Ooh, stop. Lessons. It's called Lessons. It's called Lessons. Okay.

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Lessons. Yeah. That's love, man. Oh, look at this. This is the kind of stuff I live for, right?
Mrs. Cinder, you okay over here? You good? I'm fine. Fantastic. Fantastic.
We're going to take a quick break. Okay. All right. We're going to take a quick
break. We're going to come back, have some more stuff.
Have some more Miss Lucinda Johnson talking about her book, Finding a Soulful
Love. Yes. I am enjoying this, family. I really love this. This is dope.

(43:48):
This is kind of something I love talking about. But I'm just saying I got so
many more questions coming to my mind right now. So just bear with me.
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about her book Finding a Soulful Love remember
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at gmail.com and as we come
back from break I wanted to make sure that we got some listeners out there so
shout out to all the listeners we love y'all for chiming in and texting in and
telling us what's going on this
is great to hear so T what you got for us yes T I have maybe four more.

(46:03):
Pages of things that have been said about miss lucinda johnson let's read them
should i read all four of them or just two at a time give me two give me two
yes all right so this one here,
she'll figure out who it is by the time i'm finished with it this must be good.

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Okay have you ever met a person and asked a question who did i just meet like really who Who was that?
Lucinda Johnson is that person. Her energy is unmatched in a good way.
She's the type of person that floats into a room with her own theme music.
I call her Flight of the Bumblebee.

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You look forward to her presence because you know you're guaranteed to have a great conversation.
And with that comes some knee-slapping laughter. Okay?
She is awesome. I'm happy to say I know her. That's my girl.
That's Lucinda Johnson.
Okay? I wish her nothing but the best, sprinkled with glitter,

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butterflies, and cotton candy.
Everyone needs a Miss Lucinda in their life.
Sincerely, your girlfriend Lady T Oh you?
Cause I know she like the butterflies I knew it
was her when she said butterflies If she said butterfly or
buttercup I would have been like I know what that is If she said buttercup then

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I definitely would have known I would have known exactly who that was Yeah cause
we got another person that love butterflies too She makes my day She comes in
and She always got a smile for you You walk past her desk and it's like,
okay, it's going to be a good day.
And then you sit in the office and you're getting a little frustrated when I
don't have my significant other making me feel good.

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I can go out to her desk and we can smile, we can laugh, and we can just go back and get back at it.
She's very good with that. When I say flight of the bumblebee,
this one in the office, oh my goodness.
She's all over the place. But I love it. It is, like I said,
great energy unmatched.

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Love it. Thank you. You're very welcome. And then I have another one here.
And this one is from Eunice.
Here we go. You reached out to her too. Eunice says,
Lucinda is a very kind-hearted, selfless, and thoughtful person.
She's always willing to always give her assistance no matter what or the cost.

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Lucinda creates a very comfortable working environment with her laughter she's
such a pleasure to have as management get her book and you'll see her sensitive side sincerely unis,
shout out to unis yeah that's right we love shout out to unis we love all the
people who have wrote who wrote in with great great admiration for for miss

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lucinda i think i think sometimes you don't know what people think of you you
just you know you're just yourself and you just walk around you do you.
You don't know the impact you make in their lives.
I'm sure you're sitting here listening to this like... Are we serious right now?
I'm telling you, if I could tell y'all, normally we describe stuff visually for you, but she...

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She's sitting right here, and I can look at her and tell that this is touching her emotionally.
But she's such a wonderful person. And you deserve all the love.
If you exuding that love, you deserve all that love back. And that's what I
love. I love this. I thank them all.
I mean, like, when I sent you guys, I put out a mass email, and I was like,

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Ms. Lucinda is going to be on a radio show.
And I would just like for you guys to just give me a small statement,
something small about Ms. Lucinda.
Man, when I told you, I was just like, I asked for a small statement.
I was like, hold on, I'm going to have to narrow this down. Let me see if I
can chop this in half. You know what I mean? Yeah.
And these emails were coming back to back, back to back, back to back.

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And I was like, I said a small statement.
So, yeah, for somebody who is looking for a soulful love, you have a family
of love at the consortium.
They are my family, too. Yeah, they are. Yes, they are.
I didn't get a job there. Is that kind of love over there? Yeah.
They might go, got to go apply because, you know, where I'll be at,
they don't give me no love like that. They be looking at me crazy.

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Well, I ain't no one that I'm like, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying. Where I was previously.
Yeah, to come to 3751, you have to come as family. Yeah.
Because that is a family environment there. And we won't have it any other way.
That's good. Because if I'm with you for eight hours of the day,
we need to be family. You better be. We need to be family.

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So, can I start with another question? go right here okay oh wait a minute wait
a minute look like the phone's blowing,
let's see let's see how we do I don't know we gonna get this pop and we gonna
see what happens let's go sis go right ahead go right ahead ask your question ask my question,
Would you like your book to be turned into a movie? I would.

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Okay. I can see certain phases of it, and I can see that it would be a good
movie. I think it would really be a good movie.
Okay, so if you had a choice, who would you want to be playing the character of Cynthia?
Of Cynthia, they would have to be feisty.

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I think, hmm.
I would say Kerry Washington would be a good one. Really? Because I was thinking Angela Bassett.
She would be good, too. Yeah, but I like Kerry Washington. Yeah,
I like Kerry because I've seen her feistiness. I've seen how she can be.
I've watched Angela Bassett. She was feisty in the Tyler Perry movie that I saw her in.

(51:58):
And I see her now on 9-1-1.
But she's more conservative than one there.
But Kerry's always been feisty. She's been my girl. I just think,
what's the movie where Angela Bassett throws the match into the car and the car blows up?
Oh, that was the one with Whitney Houston. Yes. Yeah. When it's the four of them.

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That ain't Stella Got a Groove Bag. What's that one? No, not Stella.
What is it? What is it? Oh, it's a good one, too.
Waiting to Exhale. Waiting to Exhale. Yes. Waiting to Exhale.
She was very good at it. Yeah. So this means I said Angela Bassett.
You know what I mean? How she just walks about.
You know what I mean? Yes. She was very good at it. I mean, yeah,
but okay, I see your Kerry Washington.

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I see that. Yeah, I see that. Okay.
Nice. Nice. Good answer. I'm going to go to bed.
What was your feeling like when you completed the book and you knew that this
is it, publish it, let's go. What was that feeling like?
When I finished the book, I felt really, I felt really proud that I did this,

(53:04):
had this accomplishment.
I praise God for it because it was a talent that he gave me that I didn't know I had.
So you have to give all praise to him. So that was the first part.
And then once I was able to get it to a publisher, because it's self-published,

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once I was able to get it to someone there, I was like, okay.
So they liked the book. They had to read the book to be willing to take that chance.
So that made me feel good as as
well wow so it was
it was a great accomplishment okay it's a
very big accomplishment very big oh no it's real big i mean you go from the

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stages of it everyone knows you don't no one knows the process that you went
through with it but to finish it and then self publish it and then get it published
and then just from where you from there to now i'm sure it's It's like, wow.
So it blows your mind. Yes. Even now as I read the reviews that people have

(54:09):
out there on Amazon and Goodreads, they are some very good reviews and they see the book.
They read it and they feel it. Like they're part of that story from all the reviews I've seen,
which is the very next thing that makes me feel that the accomplishment that I made in this was great.

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You're not just reading just like, you know, just something.
They can see, they see what, the reader is getting exactly what I want the reader
to get out of the book, to be able to see that things can be what you want them to be.
I mean, speaking on that, can you share a bit about what your book signing was
like? What that experience was like for you?

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Yes. The last book signing I had was the Saturday before Mother's Day.
Okay. That was a big accomplishment. I sold 25 books at that signing.
Yeah. I had a conversation with several people because they were just reading
the synopsis of the book, Drew Conversations.

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So that was good that was good it was it was very good and it was it was very
satisfying see don't don't let
me write a book i was about to ask you i would like to write a book any,
suggestions recommendations as far as i can say you just have to have that creative mind.

(55:41):
And if you want the your readers to feel what you write you want to make sure
that you write from some experience because that gives you more.
What's the word I'm looking for when you're writing from munition,
more ammunition. Yes. And, and it,

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It can enhance your writing as well because you're like, okay, I've done that.
Now, let me sit and think. Put some smiles on your face too because,
you know, depending on what you're writing about, you know.
Oh, okay, you know what? And then you say, you know, I can expand on that.
Let me add to this because and then I can go out and do it and see if it,

(56:25):
you know, if it really works that way.
There are some pieces in the book where in relationships.
The small things that we take for granted, like, you know, or shouldn't be making
a big deal out of like leaving the cap off to take this.
I hear a lot of people can have a big fight over something like that.

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When all you really need to do is just, you know, that's who that person is.
Why am I going to, if he keeps doing it, that's obviously that person is.
And if he keeps doing it, maybe he gets a, you know, maybe he gets some kind
of joy out of me putting that topic on there. It makes them feel some kind of
way that, you know, you do it.
Because you never know what little things somebody else might like when you

(57:08):
think it's, like, you know, not important.
Right. You know, some things just...
Makes people feel like you can tell tt over there
i'm sorry i apologize because the first thought that came
to my head is when you are in a fresh
relationship and you first move in together and he
leaves the toilet seat up and you go to the bathroom in the middle of the night

(57:31):
and you almost fall in the toilet and you're like how many times have i asked
him to put the toilet seat down and then after a while you realize i just need
to turn that light on and just put it down again no zombie walking into the
barricade in the middle of the night
she need to teach a class bro put that light in there,

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put your flashlight on on your phone check it out make sure you're good I'm
good all clear for a woman that is not a good experience in the middle of the night,
and you know you're going to keep doing it it's like oh my goodness let me just
take a minute sit down down.
He's going back in the room.

(58:12):
The technology they might come Maybe just pop him in the head and you say you did it again.
Kudos to Brian because he finally got it.
No chemical kit or nothing like that. No chemistry set.
She said pop him in the head. There you go. Especially when he's asleep.
What was that for? You'll have to see that. I got you. They got smart refrigerators,

(58:34):
smart stoves. They'll be coming out with a smart toilet.
They got smart toilets. Put the seat down and see what's going on.
Okay. My next question, how has becoming an author changed you?
Well, it hasn't changed me. Really? No, I'm still the same.

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I just feel like another accomplishment has been made in my life. Very satisfying one.
So my next question, contrary to what Pam wants me to write,
it won't be that it won't be that hardcore.

(59:22):
Well, the next book would like a part two or something totally different or
you can't give that up yet.
I can't give that. All right. OK. I can't give that up yet.
I'm not quite sure which angle I want to take it in yet, but the thoughts are
there. So I've started writing, but I just, you know, haven't decided if I want
to take what I've written so far and expand it in a different direction.

(59:45):
Will your sons be able to read the second book?
Let's see if I work with Pam. No.
Shout out to Miss Pam. And it won't just be that. It won't be through the office either.
I feel you on that. Yeah, it would definitely have to be under an alias name,

(01:00:07):
a pseudonym, if I did something that core.
Okay. All right. Can I go to church for a little bit? Real quick? Can we go to church?
I want to read something real quick. Okay. 1 Corinthians chapter 13. Oh.
And someone's like, what is that? You should see her face right now.

(01:00:27):
You should see her face. you know i
always saw some stuff in the bible just be all like doom and
gloom praise god okay but this this
particular thing i saw i thought was critical love is patient
love is kind it does not envy
it does not boast it is not proud it does not dishonor others it is not self-seeking

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it is not easily angered and keeps no records of wrongs can you say it better
yeah yeah i mean i I got that from your page.
That's where I pulled that from. It hit me home.
I mean, I look at this and I can relate to it so much because it's true.

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As you get older and as you learn these things, I think when we're younger,
we're fast-paced. We're going to have it right away, right now,
right now, right now, right now.
But I definitely believe love is patient. Very patient. And it's kind. It's kind.
And it does not envy. It does not boast. It is not proud.
It does not dishonor others. And it's not self-seeking.

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It's not easily angered. And it keeps no record of wrongs.
So that last part I love too. Keeps no record of wrongs.
If you love me, don't be bringing up stuff four years that happened four years ago.
And be like, you know, you remember you did X, Y, Z. If you love me. I'm just saying.
People in church talk about, I love him, but remember what he did back five years ago?

(01:01:56):
I mean, unless I did something real bad, you know what I'm saying?
I'm just saying. If it was, you know, by accident, I popped a tire,
you know what I'm saying? By accident.
Don't hold that against me forever, you know what I mean?
But, Mr. Senator, let me ask you. It's almost like you got a weapon in your
back pocket. No, that's the thing. They always have a weapon in their back pocket.
And they pull it out any time. I'm going to get you. I'm going to get you. I'm just saying.

(01:02:18):
See, look at T. T, no. Look, I'm going to change my whole body position. She's one of them.
Look, I got a black and white composition book. She has to. She's like,
oh, yeah, I'm going to jot this down.
In 2007, Monday, 8 p.m. April 17th.
You were wearing blue jeans and a black shirt. Remember that?
With your Nike Jordans. Remember you had that on?

(01:02:39):
Do you remember that day? Because what had happened was.
You said. We're very good at that. Yes. Yeah, we remember.
Oh, yeah. Your memory of the elephant. I mean, you thought I was joking when
I said I have a black and white composition book? No, I knew you have a black
and white composition book.
I didn't think you was joking. I knew you. That was dead serious. For sure.
Look, this is why Miss Lucinda is like my new best friend. Because I was like,

(01:03:01):
oh, really? You can write a book about something? Listen. Hold on. Let me see.
How do I edit my phone? Don't start now. Don't get tea started. What do I do?
How do I go about it? Get tea started now. That black composition book turned
into a chemistry set. We can't have that these days.
Honey, I got a story to tell. Because there is no, don't hold anything against me, no wrongdoings.
That does become hard for a lot, male and female, because you won't let it go.

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You say you do. But you don't. But you really don't.
When something happens and you don't especially if something happens and you can't really,
make it to be what you
want it to be to get to that person because it really wasn't that big in the
first place you're going to go back in your your bag of tricks and pull something

(01:03:53):
out because you got to win and that's when you bring it to the floor now but
see hold hold hold hold She talking about something, she talking, Mrs.
Lucinda, now this is from the mouth of a woman.
She said, you gotta win, right?
And you women know, and I'm not gonna say you women, it's a general statement,
a blanket statement, I'm not trying to go there, but we have a woman...

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Telling us be careful with your words brother listen please just be careful
he's already on him right listen so before my phone start blowing up and being all kind of crazy no.
I'm going to start my car right now what's going to happen before my before
my phone is blowing up and people calling me and texting me and all kind of
stuff but she said it though see he he's he's a good man he already know that

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one special phrase I pay attention and listen.
Pay attention and listen. Yeah, you pay attention and listen?
Just pay attention and listen.
When they say rule of thumb, don't say nothing. Just pay attention and listen.
Just don't say nothing. She could be completely wrong. Just don't say nothing.
That's the reason why I have my four C's. You know what I mean?
The care, the commitment, consistency, the compromise.

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Those four C's get you through a lot. These are the same women that we talk
about when they want to compromise, but don't want to do 50-50.
Well 50 50 is hard for some people you know because
everybody can't bring 50 50 to the table well see
like i don't mind compromising yeah so it all
depends on what we're compromising about yeah is it
is it is it really a 50 50 though i don't i don't believe not it's not i i don't

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believe in that no that it's not a 50 50 it's the two of you being in a union
together and each other is accepting what the other person has to offer.
Yes. I cook, you can cook. If you don't cook, you do something else.
We make it work when we're working together.

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Right. Yeah. And that's the communication. It's consistency. That's care.
That's compromise. Look, I'll make all of the sides.
You go ahead and grill and you make the meats. You know? Now, if I wash, you dry.
That's the way it's supposed to be, though. You would think.

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You know each other and you're working to do what pleases the other person.
Right. I think as long as we're not making a relationship about ourselves, then we're good.
That's the key. That's the key. You make your relationship for the other person.
Yes. And if that other person is receiving it, they're going to automatically

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come back to you with the same way. For sure.
And it just works. For sure. It just works. For sure.
I have a question. Okay. So, you know, a lot of times we think men are not into
love and sensitivity and that kind of thing.
Ms. Lucinda, what has been the response from your male readers in reference to your book?

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I had a couple of guys that have come up to my table that have purchased a book
and they walked away and they glanced through it.
And then I actually had some that had come back and said, I glanced through your book.
And the only thing that they really point out in there is that how do I get
someone to let the little things go?

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Oh, I'm sorry.
We're in the love lounge with miss lucinda johnson listen if you need a call call us,
so hold on if they need to call what's the number what's the number if they
want to call oh man i don't even have my phone listen the ready call call you
okay well you tell tell call you she's like i ain't giving that my number,

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No, I'm saying whoever that is, tell them to call you. Okay.
Well, we're having difficulties with the radio station's phone,
so please forgive us on that. Okay.
Yeah, but they want to give it to their wives.
They just look at the book, and a couple of them have said that,
I think I have a soulful love.

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I think my wife will enjoy reading the book.
So they've been positive. I had a close friend of mine, he read the book and
he said he normally don't read romance novels.
Yes. But because I wrote the book, he read it and he thought it was awesome.
See? It is definitely a page turner. It is definitely a page turner.

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But you're hitting something though. Because I always felt like there's a stereotype
about men that we don't like romantic movies.
So we don't like to be romantic or we don't like love or we're not into that or that ain't our forte.
Take that's not the truth it's not
the truth at all and if anything sometimes we we
even read stuff to learn more about our partner you know what i mean it just

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just to educate yourself in terms of that and please don't believe everything
that you read in the magazine maximum no i don't read that stuff yeah please
don't that stuff is toxic that's that's not that's that's not gonna be legitimate
i mean that's that outside end yeah no you don't let that outside you know,
And ladies, please don't go by the questions that they have in the back of the
Cosmic College magazine.

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Do not base your relationship off of stuff you see on Instagram or anything. Or any kind of magazine.
Because you're going to be up the creek if that's the case. Your score was a 12.
I don't think we're compatible. Are we compatible? No. According to the magazine.
Because you put sugar in your grits. Yeah, I think with my relationship with,

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My, my man, he actually taught me more about love than I did him.
He taught me more. I learned more from him.
I learned that softness, that, that kindness, how to accept love because I had

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a lot of anger and a lot of disappointments in relationships before I got there.
So he was kind, he was patient. And he was gentle.
And I think I can honestly say he taught me how to love. Yeah.
Sound like a music song. I love that. That's exactly what I love.
Hold on. Did you get those lyrics? Y'all got those lyrics? Did you write those

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lyrics down? That's a song right there.
That's what I'm just saying. That is a song. Yeah. Yeah. That's a music song,
y'all, too. That teach me how to love. That's the thing.
But I love the fact that she said that from her experience, it was her mate,
her partner that taught her how to love.
A lot of times you don't hear that from men you know a lot of women even say

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that that that they learned it from their man or their partner like you don't
hear that a lot that's that is a rare.
Occurrence yeah so i love it
i i feel like that's that's the key like i'm i'm the type of person where
i would hope that my partner would would learn some
things from me in some kind of way and i would learn some things from her so that
it could be a easy coexistence not

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a not a difficult one right you know yeah like brian
and i we've been in this relationship for 28
years i've known him since 1990
he was my high school sweetheart i actually ended up marrying my high school
sweetheart so like how crazy is that but from knowing him since i was a teenager
to getting together as a serious couple in our 20s and now i'm not in my 20s

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anymore i was gonna say you You said 28 years?
28 years. And we've been in this relationship for 28 years.
That's it. But you can just imagine some of the things that we did when we were
in our 20s versus where we are now.
Totally, totally different. And I'm still surprised that he still is married to me.

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I'm surprised that I didn't scare him because if anybody know me,
I'm part crazy. Yeah, so, you know what I mean?
And, you know, like people see Brian and they say to him, blink twice if you need help.
Brian, bro, I hope you're OK over there, bro. Just just know we pray for you.

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But, you know, it's relationships are they're not hard. They just take a lot of work.
You know what I mean? And you have to consistently be willing to work on a relationship
in order for it to be what you need it to be or be what you want it to be. Which is a soulful life.
Right. And I always say we work. And when we're at the office or wherever we

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are, we are giving that job our all.
Everything to make sure you don't lose it. Right. You are working.
Right. you need to do the same thing in your relationship if it's worth having.
Did y'all see y'all hear that i told you did you hear what she just said,
like that that that is the the epitome of

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what she needs to be said we we put so much
emphasis on our job we give so much time and energy to our
job but sometimes we don't give the same energy to
our relationships because you could lose that job tomorrow but
what's your relationship going to be you know how
is that how is that going to sustain itself like you say you do all you can not
to lose your job but you don't really care about losing a relationship

(01:13:22):
at least at least a but there's one one that you want
to keep right you know somebody make you mad but i don't care i'm out peace
yeah but it's it's did you work at it right and some sometimes i think some
people People get so wrapped up in their work career that they forget how to balance their life.

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And, you know, it's just like, we get it. That's your job.
But here as well. And I don't want you to blink and I'm gone. So. Yeah.
Work out of balance. Learn how to give your hours while you're at work,
but also learn how to give some hours when you're not at work.
And it can't always be about work all the time. You have to be mindful that

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you are in a relationship.
I think some people just get so caught up with just being at work all the time.
And even when they're off work, they're still thinking about work and they're
ignoring the person that's in front of them. I had that issue.
I had. You just said had. Yeah, keyword had. I had that issue.
We kind of know how to set it down where he does. Cause I, I do get wrapped

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up in the work being the controller and whatnot.
And if I keep going on, he'll just shut it down. And then I know that I've gone too far.
So it's like that sign. You need to shut it down and you, and then I can focus
on what's in front of you.
I always talk about that. That's a critical, a critical point.
I had to tell my, my partner, Hey, tell me when I'm going crazy.

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Cause I will go down a rabbit hole. and stay in the rabbit hole
and be like just going in circles not circles but just
i gotta do this i gotta knock that out i gotta do this next thing
i do i call that person and i'm she's sitting right next to me like that's not
good i shouldn't do that i mean that's so it's something that you had to work
on in terms of just really like we work at work yeah you know that's when you're

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working together you know i i see where you're headed and i don't want you headed in that direction.
So I'm going to be there and help you and bring you back to where you need to be.
For sure. Yeah, for sure. Like I, I could sense it consistently remind Brian
to take time for himself because if he's no good to me, then he's not going to be any good at work.

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And so sometimes I had to remind him, like.
I created a man cave for you. So go ahead and embrace and enjoy the man cave
that I've created for you. Take some time out for yourself.
You know what I mean? Just don't bring the video games into the bedroom.
But I mean, and you, you have a curfew.
Don't make me come and get you, you know, but he got a time limit on that man

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cave, but he has a man cave, but he has a man cave. He gives him his space.
Yeah. I give him his space. But don't get carried away with it. Yeah.
Yeah. You better knock on the door. You're just not going to do it.
Two o'clock. Hey. Hey. Homeboy. It's time to go.
It's time to go. I'm almost done. I'm almost done. All right.
Finish that game up. Come on. Two o'clock.

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Yeah. So, I mean, but, you know,
like, I think that people really need to find, like, a happy balance.
And if you do it the right way, you can have it all.
You can. Yeah. You can have it all. For sure. Yeah. I feel like I have it all right now.
Hey. I ain't mad at it. I'm going to come over there and get some of that rubbing on you.

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You know what I mean? Rubbing shoulders. What you got? What you got?
That's 20 years right there. I need that. Keep it extended. You know what I mean?
But Ty, you got something more? You all right? Yes, yes.
Just rebooting over here. I got you. Go ahead, T. Should I read some of the
stuff that I have here? Okay.
Okay. So like I had stated earlier, Miss Lucinda has fans.

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Okay. She said apparently, that's right.
That's right, apparently she does. Now, like I had stated earlier,
I asked people for a small statement and I ended up with a whole page.
So I'm just going to read what I have in front of me.
Okay. And this comes from Roselle.
Okay. So Roselle says, Miss Lucinda Johnson was one of the first people I met

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when I started at the consortium.
She was very open and welcomed me. Within just a week of working in the office,
I found out a couple of things about her. Here's my short list.
Yeah, okay. She actually made a list.
Number one, as a controller, she is serious about her receipts and saving money for the company.

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Okay? Because that's what she do. She's right about that.
If it's not a necessity, she's not going for it.
Play with your mama okay that's
what she said I'm just reading what's here in front of me okay
number two she is a published author if you have not read Finding a Soulful

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Love please proceed directly to Amazon and get it you will not be disappointed
oh okay number three she spoils her grandkids I do yeah,
if you not if you have not heard an episode a story about Isaiah.
You're living under a rock. So apparently she talks about Isaiah a lot.

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Shout out to Isaiah. Jeremiah.
But she has here Isaiah. So we're going to say with Jeremiah.
Shout out to Jeremiah. Yeah. Shout out to Jeremiah.
Roselle, we're going to talk about that later on. Okay. And number four.
I love number four. She says, her shoe game is unmatched.
My boo's going to love that one. That beatbox on my shoes.

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She says, she probably has a different pair of shoes to match each outfit.
It is so very true. Oh, my goodness.
Seriously, though. She's firm, but gives grace.
She's serious, but has a great sense of humor. And she will always respectively
tell you what's on her mind. That is very true.

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Okay. I have been working with Lucinda for a little over a year.
And I have to say that she has consistently shown herself to be an inspirational
person that is part of the consortium family.
Oh, Roselle, that's so sweet. Yes. Shout out to Roselle.
Okay. I don't know if I should read the last one or should I save it for later?

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Save the last one. We're going to read it.
Save the best for last. Save the last one. I think I know who it's from. Yes.
Our favorite person. We're definitely going to save the last one.
We got to put that in there. I'm so overwhelmed with them all.
They're no worse. I just don't have the words.

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Yeah. Oh, you got to see the shoe game though. I mean, I see her today.
Like, she says shoes. I'm like, oh, yeah, I can see.
She puts her stuff together very well. She's shoe gamers. Very nice.
They are so sweet. They really are.
So let me ask you this. We've talked a lot about your writing, your poetry.

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Besides your writing, what else do you like to do? What else?
What's the other talents that you have?
Hmm. Well, actually, outside of my writing, I am a TV addict.
Love it. What's your favorite show? Yeah, right. Oh, my God.
Mondays is NCIS night. OK. OK.

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Tuesdays is 9-1-1. OK. Chicago. Chicago on Wednesdays. Yes.
FBI on Thursdays. Yes. Wow. Why do I know that?
Law and Order on Thursdays. Law
and Order on Thursdays. It's SWAD and Blue Blood on Fridays. Okay. Wow.
Yes, those are my shows. And then we watch a lot of movies. We do a lot of good movies.

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Right now we're watching Dark Matter. Okay. Yeah, that's good.
We're checking that out. So the other series should be on this week.
But we do a lot of movies. We love movies.
I'm more of a TV network person, though. But those are my shows.
The comedy has to come in there to kind of break it up a little bit,

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you know, with that balance.
Yeah. It has to come in there because I am an emotional person too.
So sometimes I can bring tears to my eyes, equalizer. Oh, yeah. That's a favorite.
What's your favorite? The last two episodes where Queen Latifah and the detective
decided to get together.
And then they brought tears to my eyes. Like, finally.

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Right. Right, but then in the end, they end up not being together.
So, you know, yeah, but I love those episodes.
Suspense. Yeah, keep it going. Keep it going. Yeah. That's what's up. I'm not watching those.
I'm watching Oxygen for your men, you know, crime shows.
Yeah, Oxygen always got them crime shows. Yeah. And crazy shows. Like, what in the world?

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Yeah, love it. Yeah, TV fanatic. And then I like to travel, going on vacations.
When was the last place you went?
The last place I went was, I went to Dubai and Thailand with my sister family.
And I went to Florida, getting ready to go to Martha Vineyards. Okay.

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Definitely. What was Thailand like? Thailand was nice.
I love Dubai more. Okay. But Thailand was nice.
We went on boat rides in Dubai.
We went on a desert ride in the buggies. Oh, that was fun. That was awesome.
But it was all nice.

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Dubai is beautiful. It's really beautiful. We always have good times where we go.
We was doing something every day. I was keeping up with the youngins.
Love you. Yeah, I went scuba diving for the first time. That was scary but fun because I can't swim.
But I got out there in the ocean because I had to have that experience.

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Is, but my sister, she kept an eye on me.
So when she knew it was time for me to come out the water, she told them to
take me out the water. Take you out. Go get out the water.
Yeah, they kept an eye on me. They're a real knit group that we were with. But it was fun.
So traveling is another one I like. And then, of course.

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My grandbabies, my son, grandson Jeremiah, he goes to Cab Calloway School of
the Arts and he likes to dance.
So he just was in a competition last week.
Yeah. So he had fun with that.
Yeah. He was at Mama's Parade in January.
Yes, he was. Yeah. Yeah, he was in the Mama's Parade. So he enjoys dance.

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Yeah. Tell him to keep that up. Yeah. The arts is great. I was a theater kid
myself. So it's, it creates a lot of confidence for you and it allows you to
find out talents you didn't have.
And you embrace that, particularly at a young age, you get older, it pays off.
Yes. And he, and he is, he's loving it. Yeah.

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He truly is. And I'm also a great grandmother.
You're a great grandma? For sure. Of twin girls. Of twin girls.
Really? Yeah. Yeah. They're twin girls.
That's awesome. I enjoy spending time with the family. Mom, grandmom, and great-grandmom.
And great-grandmom. That's dope. And author. And author. And author.
And executive. And executive.

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It's a lot. Titles. More titles. More titles. It's a lot.
But she handled it with such style and grace. Yeah. For sure.
And she makes it look so easy.
I have help. Okay. Yeah, I have help. Yeah. My significant other, he helps a lot.

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I can honestly say he contributes to a lot of my happiness right now because he keeps me balanced.
And I can see that I've done so much. And it feels good.
That's great to hear. I'm over here glowing because I'm like,
just to hear her say that at, you know.

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From what she might have experienced previously, like, that's such a great feeling to have.
That's such a great feeling. I can honestly say from the fantasies that I've
had that he helped make them a reality.
It added to that joy. The fact that that person learned who I was added to that.

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So now I feel like there's nothing I can't do because he gives me that encouragement to do that.
So in writing, finding a soulful love was easy to write at that point because
I was getting everything I needed to feel like I had that soulful love.
So I didn't write a book about something that I didn't know.

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It was about what I was feeling and what I learned and what I now know.
So even, even though. It took a while to get there, but I got there.
Even though you use the word fantasy, you actually manifested that for your life.
This is what you were craving and this is what you received.
And I end up getting that. And you end up getting that. I end up getting that. That's a testament.

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I always tell people, don't give up. If what you want, you might not find,
don't give up on it because you will find it.
Yes, you will. You will find it. Yes, you will. Do not give up.
I'm still working on that eight bedroom house.
Still working on that eight bedroom house. still working on a eight bedroom
house i got a shovel for the last things i put out there
so i'm not gonna say what i'm working on i told you brother watch what you say

(01:27:19):
watch what you say words have power especially when they're listening and i
run my mouth so i'd be like i better watch what i say eight bedroom house eight
bedroom house have you thought about taking the book.
Finding a soulful love and making it an audiobook or better yet making it a
podcast series for each chapter so you can do the readings never thought about podcasts.

(01:27:45):
It can be done. I have thought about the audios lately because I did notice
that when I had my last book signing,
there were several people that said that they don't do hard copies anymore. They just do audio.
Although a couple of them did say that they would go ahead and support me and
they did purchase the book. But they said they do audio.

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So several people would say if you get it on audio, you might be able to even,
you know. Expand it some more. Yeah.
But America, please, please stop being light. Read a book. Pick up a book and read it.
I know it's easy for us to listen, but pick up a book and read it.
It's different. These books are heavy.

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You want me to hold a book for hours on end and read?
Yeah. I mean, you can put you can read it on your pad. You can read it on.
You can read it on. You have a Kindle. You got Kindles. You got iPads.
You can read these books. These aren't, you know, I'm, but you know,
some people like to get audio stuff. I understand.
I understand. I'm a, I'm a reader. That's why I'm, I read, I read too much as people would say. Yeah.

(01:28:51):
I had a big collection of books too.
I gave them all away. I guess I got to a point where I was like,
I know everything in the books and I just, let me just get this information
to somebody else that can use it. You know? So I set a table outside, set free.
Everybody's just coming past, grabbing the books. books my neighbor's
like you kind of deep man some deep

(01:29:13):
stuff i've learned some
things from you in the ology physiology okay astral
theology all that stuff i'm just saying i mean you know i'm him
telling me about apple seeds was enlightening for me thank you
no we don't tell her no more time don't give
her no more fuel time i'll put you down with the uh circadian

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in rhythm clock one day that's a
good one the stuff you know bro the stuff you know listen
we're gonna take a little radio radio id you listen to wpeb radio
88.1 fm 95.1 fm west philadelphia family
we are sitting here interviewing miss lucinda johnson author
of finding a soulful love i can't

(01:29:55):
tell you how honored i feel to be sitting next to
her this is our first interview with the author so you
actually you're actually cracking the seal for us in terms
of of expanding what we do and and interviewing other types of of creators i'm
honored to be invited listen you you i wanted to make sure when we talked to

(01:30:15):
you it was definitely about the book but definitely about your life as well
because i value the wisdom that you've gained through your experience.
And, you know, some of the things you've even said as a man, I can appreciate.
And I think about just the, the understanding you have today that allows you

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to speak the way that you do.
It gave me kind of like, see, I knew I wasn't wrong.
I knew I wasn't wrong. She might think she always right, but I knew I wasn't wrong.
That's why we just stay quiet, right, Ty? Exactly, my brother.
Don't be going home and saying, listen to say it. You never know,

(01:31:01):
though. Get me in trouble.
You never know. Yeah. but no it is it is on audio yeah it's not audio yeah it's
on amazon for sure okay i was listen i'm one of the types to be like when someone
comes in and i i can appreciate so much of what you,

(01:31:23):
what you put into the book your story some of it is definitely something stuff
that you've created as well but the foundation and the core of it is you yes
although it might be a fiction
novel it's one of those things where this is fiction
but based on a true story you know what i'm saying and
and that's kind of stories i like because because

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they're real they're authentic that's sometimes the idea in
my head it's actually a real story and i feel like the realness and the authentic
nature of it allows people to to gravitate towards it and feel like this is
me i'm reading i'm reading about myself as well i might be reading the story
from cynthia's point of view, but I'm reading about myself as well.

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I know you probably had a lot of people say that to you. I've read a lot of reviews that said that.
I mean, the connection with the people directly is so impactful.
It's so impactful. How do you even feel about just like, because I mean,
we do stuff all the time, right? We'll do a show, just do the show.
We put our work in, go hard, do our research, do a show, and then it comes out

(01:32:28):
the way it comes out. And people are just like, yo, that show was great.
What is that like for you? You sat down, you had a vision, you wrote your book.
And then now today, it's like, wow.
It's still wow. Yeah. Yeah, it's still wow because it's still hard to believe
sometimes that I actually wrote a book.

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That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And it's going the way that it's going.
It might not have made me a millionaire, but I know that when people are reading
it, which is the most important part, is that the readers are getting what I've said.
And the readers can look at it and they can
use that look at those experiences and

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use that for themselves to see
if you know yeah you know you know she's right because
we always arguing about this toothpaste thing
and in the end i end up putting the top on it anyway
so why bother i'm just gonna just go ahead
and put it in because that's that's just him is it
worth it pick your battles yes that's what

(01:33:32):
it is picky battles is it really is it really worth going through
there you have to pick your battles some battles are
hard to pick and some people just want
to pick every battle oh no you not i'm gonna tell you how i feel some battles
itself leave that battle don't don't do that now it's uh it's um it's still

(01:33:54):
unbelievable sometimes to me that i managed to write this book.
And even as I sat and started writing the next one, it still.
It's still exciting for me to know that I can still take a thought and run with
it, you know, and then just be like, okay, this is something that I'm going to experience.

(01:34:18):
You know, something that you see that you want to try for yourself or I saw
this, can this really be real?
And if it can be real, I can feel it and then I can write it so other people
can feel it when they read it.
Well, you know, it's good when they keep on asking you, is there a part two
and will there be another book? You know, you've done an excellent job. Thank you.

(01:34:42):
Thank you. I think when there's the scene in there where Cynthia wanted to experience
the jacket and the lingerie on the road.
So you're doing it. So the whole time, like, you know, making sure that this
is going to work when I write it. Is it going to feel, is the reader going to

(01:35:03):
feel it and say, I'm going to do it.
I have to experience it. So, but the whole time I'm doing it,
I'm around the highway and I'm riding. I'm like, my hands are tight on that wheel.
And I'm like going the speed limit.
I'm like, please don't let me get pulled over. Please don't let me get pulled
over. Ma'am, please step out the vehicles.

(01:35:23):
Okay, ma'am. Are you sure?
Yeah. And then you go back and then you can write from that experience and it
makes you smile while you're writing and it's therapy and it's relaxing.
You said something that was key. The therapy part.
I think sometimes we don't realize that sometimes we'll go talk to somebody

(01:35:47):
like a therapist and we'll go to sessions and we'll have sessions.
But the creative part of us allows us to dive a little deeper into our healing and our therapy.
And I mean I can I can attest to that just from
writing music or even talking about stories
on the podcast there's so much that you
can gain from the work that you do which is why

(01:36:08):
I even feel like you know I don't want to go to church again but I feel like
sometimes God puts this on your heart because he might say hey you might not
have healed from this but I have a way for you too right and this is going to
be actually better than actually sitting down talking to somebody This is going
to be more beneficial to you to get this out.
You can feel the release of it. Yes. Just kind of just flowing out in your writing.

(01:36:33):
Yes. And you can feel better for it after that. Like, wow, I feel so much better. I can let that go.
Because, you know, like you say, a lot of people just talking at you when you're
telling them things. They just talk it back at you.
It's really you that have to experience it and feel it and let it go. Yeah.

(01:36:55):
That takes a lot. It does. It does. It's not an easy thing.
Because, you know, like I think all the time, like when you write a book and
you put yourself out there, it's not only your story, but you're telling everybody
else's story who you've met.
And you know what I mean? Who came in contact with, you know,

(01:37:17):
so it's like you're telling your story, but you're telling their story as well.
Yeah. But you're telling your story through your eyes. Right. You know?
Right what what is your part there's a lot of writers out there
because people have diaries and
they just don't know that that is their
book yeah and they just don't realize that they

(01:37:38):
can take that diary and turn it into
a book yeah well do you still write poems yes
and have you ever considered to just write a a book full of poetry yeah no i
hadn't thought about that you should to be or not to be that is the question
you ever thought about you ever thought about you ever thought about recording

(01:37:59):
your poems and putting them behind some music no that would be nice.
Guys are giving me ideas oh yeah oh yeah wait no listen no don't start talking
to me about ideas i'll i'll come out my rabbit hole and be like you know what
you can do you can try this.
But this is the red yeah right dog but i
mean like i think i think how people

(01:38:22):
receive the work is is
a vital key in connecting with them so you
know like sometimes poetry when you read it it
might not have the same meaning unless you have a voice behind it
that's true and that voice can actually articulate more through
the words to i guess put emphasis in

(01:38:43):
certain places brings out certain aspects of it
just to make it stronger so that's saying like it would be dope to actually
hear your poetry and and listen
right put it behind some music and really vibe with it
you know like it's almost like sometimes people can make them like affirmations for
themselves and and and things that
they can use for themselves and learn from i love poetry

(01:39:04):
i love poetry i'm not i'm never gonna say i'm a poet because
i'm not but i know putting words
together you can create a very interesting dynamic
with understanding people and how they relate to
it um poetry poetry can touch your
heart if you allow it to if you feel deep enough
about it poetry can also make you angry you know what i mean so it there's there's

(01:39:29):
different things and nowadays poetry is not like it used to be you know poetry
is actually becoming more mainstream in terms of people people putting themselves
out there a lot more people are putting Yeah.
I don't know. You don't know? Have you ever considered to just do like an open
mic night and just read your poems? No.

(01:39:51):
Is that another idea, T? Yeah. I'm just saying. We live in Philadelphia.
We're going to call it the Love Lounge with Lucinda Johnson.
That's what I'm saying, though.
Got to say it in a deep voice. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Lucinda Johnson.
Had to say it like that. Yeah, right.
It was a deep voice. Got to say it with a snap of the fingers. Hey.

(01:40:15):
Uh-huh. I'm telling you. I ain't got my beret, but I'll wear one that day.
I'll tell you that much. And everybody, we're all blank.
Turtlenecks. Let me get my turtleneck out. I think of all the ideas and suggestions,
I think the one that I would be more comfortable starting with would be the
podcast for just reading certain chapters of the book. I can see that.

(01:40:41):
I think that'd be dope. Because then I'm by myself. Yeah, I think that'd be really dope.
You can sit there, tune the world out, put your headphones on and read your
chapters yeah that sounds like a nice you probably could even also talk about
when you when and how you wrote the chapters i was driving down the street,
and i was sitting in front of this car and all of a sudden it hit me and this
is the chapter how that one came to be yeah where

(01:41:04):
i was watching something on tv
and say you know what so you're gonna be up
late tonight like you know what like i know that
gave you some time to go to sleep baby time to go to sleep what was
the reaction from your soulful love after the book was completed he was very

(01:41:27):
proud he enjoyed reading it and he he's waiting for me to start my second book Yeah,
but he was very, very proud of me.
Yes, he was. That's great. Yeah, even as I tell him about the reviews and whatnot,
he just gives me even more encouragement that, you know, if I can read a review

(01:41:53):
and be like, oh, they say he was, and he can be like.
Well, that, that is what you're doing. That's an awesome review.
You know, just really, I'm really
proud to see that people are seeing your book the way that they see.
And it still just gets that encouragement with those reviews.
Like, you know, if I don't think it's that awesome, he's like,

(01:42:14):
you don't realize how these reviews have been.
And they, they, they are really great. They are really great.
He said, don't let her swell your head up.
Because I shared when I shared a couple of reviews that I got from within the last three weeks.
Within the last three weeks, there have been some new reviews out on Amazon.

(01:42:36):
So when I shared those went out, he was like, wow. Yeah.
Those are really good reviews.
See? I'll be the type. My baby, she an author, bro.
Right. She put that work in. Y'all know about that? That's what I'm saying.
Lucinda Johnson. That's my girl. I'm telling you. I don't know her.
They say Lucinda Johnson, okay? That's my people. That's my love, all right?

(01:43:01):
Yeah, because he's done that. We've been out, and he's talked about the book,
and the next thing you know, and it's been in the bars around guys,
and they saying, you know, they buying the book.
Yep. I'd be the same way. Hey, hey, you ain't heard? Hey, bro.
Here, here's a link. Go ahead and buy it. I don't know who that is. Right.
Right. because sometimes he would just say she's an author and

(01:43:21):
i'd be like that's what i'm saying talk you
up oh yeah she's all proud of
you proud of you that's that's love that's love i
mean that's you know that's how i was you know what i mean i was like oh my
god fellas you gotta have her on the show you know and it's like who is she
i was like she's lucinda johnson that's the way she was oh no we're gonna interview
author jimmy that's what we're interviewing we're gonna interview author she

(01:43:44):
wrote a book we're gonna this is we're interviewing what what's going on like
i'm like Like, what? Tell me what? What's going on?
But I can honestly say that, you know, you're a true blessing for coming on with us tonight.
And sharing your novel, it's also sharing your personal story with us, too.
I always say, you know, as and you know, this sharing is not easy.

(01:44:08):
We become we're exposed. We're vulnerable. And sometimes it can be scary.
Sometimes it could be it can make you feel like I'm not comfortable with this.
But the fact that you did it tonight, we overwhelmingly greatly appreciate you.
And I appreciate being here and you guys made
me feel very comfortable you really did it was

(01:44:29):
alright we were nice I
was nervous you guys really made me feel at home that's all we ask I tell guests
all the time they nervous I'm like don't worry about it you'll be just fine
and I understand people have their hesitancies and they're like oh well I don't
know but you coming on tonight is a true blessing I mean,

(01:44:50):
we were talking about your book,
but we talked about so much more about love and relationships and the importance
of having the outside world not affect your relationship.
Yes. And how you have to think about what makes the two of you work more than
what makes society think you're working.

(01:45:12):
And like I said, I appreciate that so much because that's what I create.
That's what I want for my relationship I don't want the outside world to dictate
how we go right you know I want it to be how we want it to be,
and you know I can see that you're an example of that and you know you said
several times thank you I'm very happy with where I'm at and that's that's the feeling you want yes.

(01:45:39):
That's the feeling you want no matter where you are in life that's the feeling
you want so with that being said we got one more yes one more one more one more
small statement one more small statement from from from the man himself yes
shout out to him i'll give a shout out when you're done see go ahead.
Okay here we go and i i think at this you know when i finish this we will all

(01:46:04):
know who this is from so here we go lucinda joined us through attempt agency
during a critical period of our agency.
We had serious financial issues, so serious that we could not afford to continue to pay them.
Of course, that meant that Lucinda could not continue her employment with us.

(01:46:28):
Rather than be placed with another organization, she chose to stay with us as a volunteer.
Wow. And has been with us ever since.
Our relationship is unlike any other. I have with any other co-workers.
We trust her. We trust her judgment.

(01:46:48):
She is right by my side when important financial decisions must be made.
She puts our employees and their families first.
She makes sure we manage our finances with integrity.
I don't know where we would go without her. I don't know who I would be without her.
Peace and love. Ladies and gentlemen, who are we speaking in reference to? Mr. John White Jr.

(01:47:13):
Shout out to John White Jr. Shout out to the squad. Shout out to the squad.
I cannot believe you did this. I cannot.
So, Miss Lucinda, I'm going to give you this. This is for you to keep. That is your keepsake.
That is all. I don't even know if I can look at them the more.

(01:47:34):
Without crying or I just I'm just so appreciative of how they all feel.
It just makes you You just feel warm. It's still warm all over.
And that's the emotional side of New York. Love it.
It is just beautiful. Yeah, it's going to be nice tomorrow.

(01:47:57):
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's going to be real nice. That's going to be really nice.
And again, I appreciate the comfort that you guys gave me this evening.
Yeah. And being here to talk about my book.
Finding a Soulful Love. Finding a Soulful Love. Amazon.
Amazon. Yeah. So where can they find it? Let's make sure we let people know.

(01:48:18):
Finding a Soulful Love can be found on Amazon, Goodreads, Barnes and Nobles,
and the Reading Glass bookstore.
Okay. And how can people find out more about you?
I'm working on a website. It's called Blissful Lovejoy.
Okay. And it'll be up and running soon. And they will be able to send any comments

(01:48:44):
they have about any books that they read. And I can also be emailed at belovedbelovedatyahoo.com.
Okay.
And any social media platforms?
I am on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.
Okay. And on Facebook, who are you on Facebook? Facebook.

(01:49:06):
I guess you just type in Lucinda Johnson and you should be able to find me. Okay. Yes.
Yeah, you type in Lucinda Johnson and the book cover comes up and you'll find
her right there. Yeah, a soulful love.
It came right up. I did a lot of Lucinda Johnson stuff there. Yeah.
Yeah, I have met a couple of people that actually are named Lucinda.

(01:49:27):
I actually met because it's not a common name.
But yeah, Lucinda Johnson, finding a soulful love.
Okay. Amen. anything you want to say to miss johnson before thank you thankful
you came out this evening,
i'm going to take a few clips from this because you said some serious things
oh yeah she did dropping gems dropping bars as you say i might have to put some

(01:49:50):
music behind it and send it to her right yeah that's listen for sure see thank
you yeah and then you guys should check out the Eric Robeson lesson.
Oh yeah, we will. I know that song.
It's a very good song. It has meaning.
Definitely. Yeah. I like to listen to music that still has meaning behind it.

(01:50:11):
Are we, us in this room? Yeah, that's, that's our forte. For sure.
Ty, you're going to send me that music. Gotcha, gotcha.
Miss Lucinda, thank you for coming. Thank you for inviting me.
Yeah, that's, I'm heading any other way.
Yeah. Woo. Well, I mean, on that note, like I said, I greatly appreciate you

(01:50:33):
tonight for coming and sharing your story, giving your testimony,
telling your truth and sharing it with the world.
I love this because this is what we seek.
This is what our goals are. We set out to do a show and you want people to feel
like they're making an impact in other people's lives.

(01:50:54):
Lives so i greatly appreciate you coming on tonight and
remember family go out please go find a
finding a soulful love go get it go read it leave a
comment let the people know what you think contact missile sender please go
do it and i want to send a special thank you to the whole family at the consortium
incorporated yes they are our avid supporters we greatly appreciate all of you

(01:51:17):
out there if you're listening bottom of our hearts for my team we greatly appreciate
Appreciate y'all so much.
But on that note, we're going to end the show right here.
We thank y'all for listening to Jimmy Bond's podcast right here on WPEB,
88.1 FM, 95.1 FM, West Philadelphia.
Fam, that's going to wrap the show. We want to thank you for listening to Jimmy
Bond's podcast on Philadelphia Radio.
We ask you to leave your comments and questions at 844-844-1244.

(01:51:42):
Again, that's 844-844-1244. You can also email us at jimmibondspodcasts at gmail.com.
Again, that's jimmybondspodcasts at gmail.com. That's j-i-m-m-y-b-o-n-d-s podcast at gmail.com.

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