Jamie and Audrey are finally diving into a conversation about photos and videos. As they explore this topic, Jamie shares an encounter he had with another Andriod to Apple switcher and his intriguing reasons for making the switch. This encounter adds excitement to their discussion, which soon turns to sharing photos and videos through text messaging and the different protocols and formats involved.
Their attention then shifts to the challenge of transferring their Android Photo Library to Apple. The first step is deciding where to store their all-important master copies. This leads them to a valuable conversation about backups versus syncing data, cloud storage versus local storage, and strategies for recovering from unexpected events. Jamie then shares a fascinating concept—the Rule of 3 and 3, an intriguing rule of thumb for backing up your data.
Jamie takes on the role of an expert guide, explaining the true benefits of the Apple Universe and how becoming “Apples to Apples simplifies the entire process.
Impressed by Jamie's insights, Audrey accepts the challenge to watch the All The Basics course and share her progress. Excitement fills the air as they embark on their individual journeys, ready to conquer the world of photo and video transfer.
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Jamie (00:00):
Hey everybody, welcome to J Mac fixes everything. I'm
Jamie Pollak from royalwise.com.
Welcome to the fifth episode ofJ. Mac fixes everything or the
switcher we were calling itmaking the switch from Android
to Apple. This week, Audrey andI finally begin the conversation
about transferring photos andvideos from her old Android to
her new iPhone. We also have ourfirst person on the street
interview of another switcherand ask them why did they switch
(00:23):
we discuss sharing photos andvideos through text messaging
and defining what a blue messagemeans, as opposed to messages
that turn green. And I go overbackups versus syncing data,
storing the master copies of ourphotos or other data cloud
storage versus local storage andrecovering from natural and
maybe not so natural disasters.
(00:43):
This is followed by the ideathat learners don't really know
what they don't know. And we doknow what you don't know. And
also the fact that growth orlearning can be kind of
uncomfortable and painful. Sohow do we deal with that
ultimately, I break down theapple universals built in
process of using the iCloudPhoto Library on multiple Apple
devices to achieve our goals andhow it simplifies the entire
process. And then finally,Audrey accepts my challenge to
(01:05):
go watch the iPhone iPad all thebasics course. And then a next
episode she's gonna come backand report did she learned
anything and it wasn't worth hertime. So we're super excited to
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Jamie (03:00):
So hey, everybody, welcome. I'm Jamie pollack. My
company's Royalwise Find usonline@royalwise.com another
episode of switching from Appleto Android from Android to Apple
ups. I said that exactly. Makingthe switch the switcher I've
been changing the name everyweek. Now we're switching from
Android to Apple. Audrey's withme like always. Hi, Audrey. How
(03:23):
you doing? How's it gone?
Audrey (03:25):
Going? Great.
Jamie (03:26):
Wonderful. So I did a little research on a couple of
things. And I got to kind ofjust follow up on from the last
episode or the lastconversation. When I asked it to
Apple is an Android to Apple orAndroid to iPhone, that that
question. You know, Android isan all encompassing term, it
talks about the software and thehardware. So when you say
(03:47):
Android, you kind of know it'san Android phone. And you know,
it's the Android operatingsystem. And so if I say iPhone,
and I'm not talking about both,I say Apple I am. So I think the
correct term is Android toApple, because it's this this
full platform package to thisfull platform package. Would you
agree that that's probablyright.
Audrey (04:04):
You're the expert. But yeah, it sounds right to me.
Jamie (04:06):
What do you get back?
It's going to be that or Androidto Apple iPhone, which is kind
of redundant. So I don't know ifthat's the thing, another
correction just because I alwayswant to make sure that I'm
correct or if I'm wrong, I'mwilling to admit it. Is I talked
to another Android person whoswitched to somebody who we
might sneak into a later episodeand said yes, androids did do
(04:28):
occasionally have SD cards aslot for your SD card not a SIM
card. And I when you said youknow I had I had a SD card in my
phone for storing my photos. Icould just pull the card out and
pull the photos off of the card.
I made the bad assumption thatit was a SIM card and it's not
(04:51):
that androids do have a SIM cardfor cellular service and then a
micro SD for swappable harddrivespace which is complete Really
alien to Apple like iPhone neverhas had it never will have it.
Right. And so there's some
Audrey (05:06):
smallest floppy disk on the planet, right? Yeah.
Jamie (05:10):
And then for our audience members that don't know what a
floppy disk is. So when you'rein Microsoft Office, there's the
save icon, that's still a floppydisk looks like a floppy disk in
Word, right? But then it's funnybecause the younger kids don't
know what it is like, that meanssave. Why does that little icon
mean save? Because it's theshape of a floppy disk. They
(05:32):
don't know what that is. Andalso, was it a five and a
quarter inch or three and a halfinch? You know, because floppy
disks used to be big and floppy.
They became small and hardplastic. And so even the term
floppy disk is quite accuratefor what they were when they
ended. Anyway, let's check inwith Audrey, how are you doing?
How's the iPhone? How's thestuff
Audrey (05:55):
is good? Actually, I spoke to a friend of mine
recently, who has decided tomake the switch for security
reasons. And of course, youknow, my husband being you know,
the wonderful helper that he isis like trying to give them tips
and whatever. And I'm like, oh,no, no, no, you just you just
need Jamie. Just trust me onthis, you need to
Jamie (06:18):
be WJ D. Well, Jamie do that's, that's what we'd like to
hear. Well send them my way. I'mhappy to help
Audrey (06:25):
them training it start to finish right here, take
Jamie (06:27):
some classes, we'll start publishing, we'll start
publishing this series that canwatch this and learn a whole
bunch of great stuff, for sure.
Well, I want to start off withsomething this week, I had a
great experience with my furnacewas being serviced. And so Jason
from sunset heating came over toservice my air conditioning and
(06:48):
my furnace and made a commentthat he had switched from
Android to Apple A few yearsago. And I interviewed him and
asked him to share his storywith me. And so let me get this
up here. And I'm going to showit to you. And then that's going
to kind of kick off ourconversation for today. So hey,
Jamie, here, I'm with Jason fromsunset heating and cooling, He
came to serve as my furnace andmy air conditioning. And he told
(07:10):
me that he switched from Androidto Apple A few years ago and had
a very specific reason why, whydid you switch to Apple to
iPhone?
Unknown (07:19):
My reason being was my kids were in competitive sports,
I would take video and textvideo to family members, I
couldn't make it to the sportingevents and the picture quality
downgraded, I'd have to trim thevideo. And then when I switched
to the iPhone, the iPhone wouldsend perfect quality, same
(07:39):
quality as I was filming, peoplecould see it. And that signified
a fuzzy version. And that's whyI switched the media is way
better on iPhone and
Jamie (07:48):
an Android. There you go.
And you said you weren't sure ifthey ever fixed that or not?
Unknown (07:51):
Yeah, I don't know. I looked into it. At the time. It
was a issue with Android. Theynever fixed it was a known
issue. You could search onlineand Right, right. Right,
exactly. And after I switched,you know, I'm so happy my
iPhone. I'll never go back toAndroid,
Jamie (08:05):
as we love to hear.
Thanks, Jason. So there you haveit. What do you think about
that?
Audrey (08:10):
Oh, wow. Yeah, I can totally relate. I can relate to
that in a huge way. My husbandwould send me videos all the
time. His favorite capture wouldbe like a rare bird that hit our
bird feeder. And it would alwayscome in to my Android all
pixelated and just a teeny tinymess. And he's like, Did you see
(08:31):
that thing? And I'm like, uh,yeah, what are we excited about?
Jamie (08:38):
But what you're talking about was he was taking the
video on an iPhone and thensending it to you on the Android
and it was showing up funny. Soone of the things Apple just
recently, I think two years ago,changed their compression from
regular like JPEG compressionand mov compression to H E IC
and HV see compression, which isan AI just last week, of course,
(09:02):
I was saying how Apple's opensource and not proprietary. I
don't know if these are, I don'tthink their proprietary
compression formats, but theyare superior. We're getting much
better compression for video andphotos when you're using the
Photos app and you're using theApple camera natively. But when
you share or export, they've gotto convert to mov or convert to
(09:23):
jpg so that they're universal.
Because other platforms don'tuse H E IC or HEV C. So that's
actually something that's moreadvanced. And it's something
we're dealing with in the Appleworld where occasionally
somebody will send somebodysomething and it will be the
wrong file. You'll download itwithout converting it and it'll
be the wrong format and won'twork. You know, but Jason's
issue was he would record it onthe Android send it to the Apple
(09:45):
people and it would just alwaysbe fuzzy. He said it would just
always be pixelated and fuzzy.
Audrey (09:51):
So it was actually in reverse happening.
Jamie (09:53):
For him. It was he was on an Android and he sent it out to
other people and it didn't itdidn't look good. Wow. So he
said now that he's gone to Appleit's and you know you hear me
almost every week I say applesto apples is one thing and
apples to oranges this in othervideos let's I mean this will
just mention this real quickbefore we jump into your
questions and what we want tosolve for you this week. videos
(10:14):
get big. That video I just tookof Jason was one minute and it
was 120 megabytes. Right so I'mnot emailing that to anybody
right or five Meg's right if Iwere five Meg's and emails
complaining, but I could textmessage it to anybody because
text messaging doesn't care.
Specifically, if you're usingApple met the Messages app and
you're using iMessages, which isApple's Wi Fi based message
(10:37):
sending system okay,
Audrey (10:40):
what's the difference?
What's what's the difference?
Jamie (10:44):
That's why That's why I love having you here to ask
those hard questions.
Audrey (10:50):
Like okay, everything that you just said I'm like what
that means.
Jamie (10:57):
Traditional text messaging is called SMS SMS text
messaging cellular Verizon ATand T T Mobile, right. And it's
actually stands for Simple Mailsending protocol, Simple Mail
sending. And so that's on youriPhone, the messages that turn
green are people that are notusing Apple's iMessage system,
they're using an Android device,and it's coming into your AT and
(11:18):
T or Verizon or T mobilecellular service. So
traditional.
Audrey (11:22):
Yeah, I noticed when I changed to an iPhone, right?
We're like, oh, my gosh, you'rean
Jamie (11:30):
iPhone, you get a message. And it turns in, it
turns blue, right? That bluetext message bubbles, means it's
coming from an Apple devicecoming on to an Apple device. So
basically, the blue messages aresending from apple to apple
through what it's called theiMessage. Service. Apple's
iMessage is
Audrey (11:49):
okay, so blue is another iPhone, green is an Android,
Jamie (11:53):
blue is apples to apples, and green is anything but as
everything else. Okay, right. SoSo blue is apples to apples, and
green is apples to oranges. No,we'll just use my terminology
that I keep keep drilling on.
And so if it's a blue thread,and you know, it's apples to
apples, then I mean, you couldsend a gigabyte video, and it
would eventually make its waythrough because it's going over
(12:16):
Wi Fi and uploading to themessages server and download
into the other phone. And we'renot getting dinged on, like an
email server where it's like,oh, booth in five to 10
megabytes, I'm going to be like,too much, I'm going to reject
your message. Right now theproblem we run into, and I think
we've mentioned this oncebefore, but I think it's what
people suffer from his messageshas never been good at
(12:38):
compressing video or compressingphotos. And so when you text
message, somebody have photo,and it turns blue, that's apples
to apples. It's full size, it'slike the whole five megabyte
file, it's the whole sevenmegabyte file doesn't compress
it down to 200 kilobytes, thatmost sending, like a photo that
you send should go down to underhalf a meg like you don't on a
tiny screen, you don't need thathigh resolution, you don't need
(13:00):
all that the file size, right?
So like, even when you email yousay, he would say well drop down
the size, right? Make it make itmedium or small, or don't send
actual size, I don't need tosend them a five meg file, I
just want them to see it. Now ifthe other person is going to
like print it, or especially ifthey're going to professionally
print it, you want them to havethe actual size, the full size,
and that's why you wouldn'temail something to the print
(13:23):
shop. Right? You're gonna uploadit somewhere.
Audrey (13:26):
This must be the reason why so many designers are Apple
people. At least that was myobservation. It's part of
Jamie (13:34):
it. It's part of that Apple's known. Yeah, I mean,
Apple is known for their graphicability and their support of
graphical artistry. They'vealways been known as the play
the platform for graphicalartistry. I don't think this
message is issue is why, youknow, I mean, anybody, a
Photoshop file is going to be agig five gigs, you know, you've
(13:56):
got to upload and download thatto a server somewhere, you're
not going to text message those.
Audrey (14:01):
That's so much business is conducted on smartphones
these days. So I imagine there'ssomebody somewhere that's
thinking, Oh, my gosh, I usethis all the time. You didn't
realize Apple was making itpossible for me.
Jamie (14:14):
Also, for end users for you as an iPhone end user right
now the the thing that I teachpeople or that I run into when
I'm supporting people, is likethey're running out of hard
drive space, and they're notsure why. And then I look on
their laptop or their phone andI look through what's taking up
their harddrive space. And theirmessages app is like 20
gigabytes, 30 gigabytes, becausetheir text messaging videos or
(14:38):
text messaging photos, andmessages has never been good at
compressing those or reducingthe size on sin they send the
actual size, and it bloats andfloats and blows and blows
messages isn't the best way toshare photos and videos in the
Apple universe. It is making aniCloud shared album and the
Photos app and putting thingsinto that sheet. or an album and
(15:00):
inviting people to share thatalbum, you know, and so that the
iCloud Photo Library can managethe compressing and the size and
you know, but people textmessage photos to each other all
the time, that's the way to doit. There actually is a setting
now on iPhone in the settingsunder I think it's under
messages where you can say,compress images when I send them
(15:23):
like you can actually tell it todo, but for the last 10 years
now, like it's just like fullsize, and it just goes crazy. So
when I try it, but let me let mejump in there and see if I see
it. And if so I'll bring it upto show it on the screen or
whatever. But um, okay, and itmight be Have you upgraded to
the new operating system? Idon't know. I don't know.
Audrey (15:44):
Okay, I think I know, I think you told me how to look
though. So I'm going to mysettings. And I'm finding my
little user person.
Jamie (15:52):
No, you're gonna go to settings and then general and a
software update.
Audrey (15:56):
Oh, okay. Yeah, SEO is already off track. Lather, rinse
repeat process people I'm justsaying right now you cannot just
know it. Once you've heard it.
Jamie (16:06):
You gotta get it's got to be repetitive, you got to do it
over and over. So softwareupdate, it's gonna check. I'm
running iOS 16.0. That's thecurrent version that I heard
16.1 or 16. Point 0.1 is out orcoming out very soon. I'm not
seeing it yet. But I know thatthere's some bug fixes that have
come out.
Audrey (16:22):
I have not yet upgraded to iOS 16.
Jamie (16:26):
Yeah, well, it'd be a good idea to do it. Um, there's
a couple of cool features. I'mgonna be doing my what's new
class in two weeks. But I editeda text message, I sent a text
message that had a typo. Iedited the typo as if we were in
Slack or something like that. Itwas very cool. That's awesome.
So I deleted a text message thatwasn't valid, because I sent the
text and I had a typo. I sent asecond text, like the Asterix
(16:47):
and then the correction to theto the typo, that I went back
and said, Well, I can edit themessage now. So I edited the
message and then deleted thesecond the correction message.
And then it warned me if theother person hasn't upgraded to
iOS 16. They're not going to seeall this. Oops. Oh, right. So it
still comes back to are we onthe same operating system? Are
we on the same platform?
Audrey (17:07):
So just take that again, slow down just for a second? My
brain, right? Like, you deleteda message and you're on 16. But
but I'm on 15.7? Yeah, I'm notgoing to see that message at
all.
Jamie (17:21):
No, they can't take it off of the other phone yet. So
you will have gotten the wrongone. Right, you remove it, I
can't remove it from your phonebecause you're not on iOS 16. So
it's not it's not on both endsjust yet. You know, that
actually makes a lot of sense.
Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna scrolldown a little bit to get this
other thing. I'm gonna go tomessages, and then go to the
very bottom here and see whereit says low quality image mode?
(17:43):
Oh, yeah. Okay, right, turn thaton. And now all of a sudden
messages isn't going to send afull size or actual size, it's
going to lower the quality ofthe image. Because again, I'm
not sending my text messages topeople, so they can publish my
pictures. I just want them tosee them.
Audrey (18:01):
Okay, you were in Settings, and then message
Jamie (18:04):
messages, and then went all the way to the bottom of
messages to find the low qualityimage option.
Audrey (18:10):
I am not seeing messages under settings. So I wonder if
it's different on mine. Now
Jamie (18:14):
tell me what it says at the very top of the entire thing
in black? What does it say atthe top of the screen?
Audrey (18:19):
Well, okay, so I was in general, right? So you're gonna
hit the
Jamie (18:23):
blue left pointing arrow to go back up a level? Oh, yeah.
Okay, you're just out at the topof the hierarchy.
Audrey (18:28):
This seat because I was checking like if I was upgraded
or not.
Jamie (18:32):
Right. So that's in my level two class and my
navigating apps class, that'swhat we talk about is like, how
to tell if I'm at the top ofhierarchy. Right pointing arrows
mean, go down into left pointingarrows mean go up out of saying
is I haven't graduated yet?
Well, but you haven't even takena while to take all the basics.
Take level one, level two, levelthree. I mean, again, you're not
(18:55):
taking the classes, you're justlike, I know enough, I'm
intuitive. I'm gonna make itwork. This is absolutely normal.
Nobody wants to sit down andtake a two hour class, they
think I can just figure it out.
And I'm not going to waste mytime. But I'll tell you, if you
take my two hour class, you comeout of these one hour sessions
going, you cleared up so muchfor me, the NSA, how do we do
(19:16):
and you're like, I cannotbelieve how many different
things that I didn't understand.
You just explained to me. AndI'm gonna take the class and
I'll explain everything, likefrom the foundation up, right,
but nobody wants to do that. ButI'm telling you, it'll save you
time in the long run. You know,even if you know 80% of the
class, you'll get three thingsout of it that you didn't know
that'll change.
Audrey (19:38):
I go and take those and then I come back to the
switcher. And I'll be like, Oh,no, no, no, that's not what my
tutor said. And by the way,you're arguing with yourself.
Jamie (19:46):
Maybe you don't even need you don't need the switch. You
don't need the the switcherpodcast or webcast. If you take
those classes, you'd alreadyknow all this stuff. So yeah,
you would ruin you would ruinour web series if you actually
went and did that. So nevermind.
So we talked a little bit aboutsending text messages difference
between eye messages and SMS,the blue and the green. But
(20:08):
really, the bigger conversationis photos and videos, how to
deal with them. What's theirformat? And for you, and for
this topic, it's switching.
Right? It's it's I'm moving fromAndroid on to Apple.
Audrey (20:23):
Hey, Emily, I just tore off the band aid and was like,
Oh, my gosh, Jamie, I'mbleeding.
Jamie (20:30):
Right? Well, you're bleeding. That's why you put the
bandaid on, right. But I toreoff the band and my stitches
came off with it or something.
No more scab or something, Idon't know. I've got a dress.
Another topic that is paramountto where we're going. And you're
not going to like I'm reachingfor another band aid. I'm going
to just shred shred that scabwith this conversation. When we
(20:53):
first talked about this. And youasked me, I said, Well, you're
on an Android, right? You've gota Google account. Google is the
cloud based service that Androidis use, so that you can have
your contacts, your calendar,syncing with whatever other
devices that you have. And withan Android and a Google account,
(21:14):
you have Google Photos. And sowhat's the question as well? Do
you have your photos in yourGoogle Photos area? So they are
also syncing in the cloud? Andsaved on you said, No, I don't
trust that. I don't I didn't Idon't do it that way. Then my
question or my responses, ofcourse. Okay. So you're plugging
in and manually pulling thingsor importing onto a computer
(21:34):
somewhere, and then you're kindof picking and choosing? I want
this to come off the phone, Iwant to leave this on the phone.
And so that's a manual process.
That's not autumn automatic. I'man automatic magic. Oh, you
Audrey (21:51):
should coin that one.
Jamie (21:52):
I have? No, that's a common common term. Right? We
like things to workautomatically, like that's,
that's what we want isautomatically technology. That's
all autumn automatic. This is abase philosophical debate on how
do you want to use thetechnology? You know, are you
(22:14):
willing to move forward intousing the technology the way it
was designed to be used? Or youdid it this way forever, and
you're just want to continuewith what you know. And you're
not going to adapt? And you'renot going to learn? And you're
going to just try to forcethings into a process that you
(22:36):
understand.
Audrey (22:37):
Oh, why do I feel like this is a trick question.
Jamie (22:43):
I don't mean it personally, it's not. It's not a
part of it. Let me start. Let meback up a little bit. This is
not a personal thing. This isnot just you. This is human
nature. And we keep coming backto that our first episode was a
motion. How do you feel? Right?
Is it working? And how do youfeel about it? Because how we
feel about technology dictateshow we use it. I just had this
(23:04):
conversation with my marketingguy. I have a project I should
have had done six months ago,I've been dragging my feet, we
sat down and got it done and ahalf an hour. Right? Because he
held my hand. And when I hit awall, I'm like, Well, look, it's
this, this or this, and thatI've got three or four choices.
And I it's complicated, and Iquit. And when I sat by myself,
(23:24):
every time I tried to do this,this task, I quit. To complicate
it more than I want to take ondon't care. Right? But with
HIMS, they're going oh, no,wait, wait, look at this, click
this, I will do it like this.
Okay, now you're done. Right.
And we got a complex task donein less than an hour. Because I
(23:44):
didn't give up based on the factthat I didn't want to have to
learn and or it was toocomplicated. You know, it's not
first. So it's not you, it'severybody. In this specific
scenario, you do have multipleoptions on how photos on your
iPhone interacts with yourcomputer, right? Or how do you
organize? And how do you storeand I kind of mentioned this as
(24:08):
a whole half an hour to an hourconversation, because there's
literally a dozen differentlittle pieces and decisions and
desires and whatever. And thefact that you don't have an
Apple computer is just acomplication, because you can't
just use the iCloud PhotoLibrary and have everything on
your phone on your laptop. We'vetalked about that when you go
apples to apples, it's designedin a certain way that just
(24:31):
simplifies life. And when we goapples to oranges, we've got to
figure out how to work. That'sthat's that's the basic point of
what I'm pointing out is thatwe're going to appeal this on
you and I'm going to help youthrough this. But we're taking
the hard road.
Audrey (24:45):
And that's a hard road.
It's a hard road. Oh are you inin anticipation of this
conversation about you know,where, where is my data started
to, you know, again, going backto my Android like a little
looking through all the photos,where are they? How can I push
them over to my iPhone? Now? Howdo I get them there? I have so
(25:06):
many tools available to me. AndI'm not sure which tool is the
best one. Honestly, we touchedon Google Drive and Google
Photos and kind of syncing thatway and trying to get that then
somehow over to the iPhone, thenthere's, you know, the Microsoft
stuff, OneDrive, and all that.
(25:28):
It's just like, one tool afteranother. And actually, I ran
into the issue of, ooh, I thinkI've got things in multiple
places.
Jamie (25:37):
Oh, man, where's my data everywhere, right? It's
everywhere. And
Audrey (25:41):
it's messy. And so now I'm having to really kind of
make some decisions and figurethat out. Yep.
Jamie (25:47):
Yeah. Yeah. So well, that's apples to apples. Life is
simple. All the other things.
But bottom lines, you've got alibrary of photos on an Android
device, and you need themsomeplace else that's
accessible. Bottom line. In myopinion, Cloud is not
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necessarily your best option.
Audrey (26:17):
Oh, I'm so glad you said that.
Jamie (26:20):
Okay, so we find this before, but let's make sure that
we define it now. Because youjust mentioned there's all these
tools, and I'm not sure which iswhich. Google Drive a cloud
OneDrive, iCloud iCloud Drive. Imean, you know, I found drive
cloud, iCloud Photo Library, acloud, right? Those are all
cloud
Audrey (26:40):
checking your cellular provider to like they have
Jamie (26:43):
Verizon will happily give you a storage area for photos.
Comcast, oh, yeah, we gotstorage for you. Everybody's
good storage, Amazon, oh, mygod, Amazon's like, Hey, we got
prime storage. Our caveats, whatwe need to watch out for what we
don't want is for our data to bereformatted. As we move them
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from point A to point B, we wantthem to happening? No, no, not
necessarily, but it can. Imentioned earlier that in photos
natively on your phone andphotos, if you take a picture,
it's an H IEC. But if you exportit, it will be a JPEG upon upon
export. Meaning that the libraryitself may have one format.
Audrey (27:28):
But they function it's not just
Jamie (27:32):
by import export, I'm going to export these photos and
are my settings correct so thatthey don't get mangled as I do
that? So the first question thatwe answer is, where am I going
to have my master copies?
Where's my big collection, I'mgoing to tell you what I even
tell people in the apples toapples world, but I think it
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applies here too. Just so youknow, in the perfect apple
world, I have a laptop ordesktop I've got my iPhone and
my iPad and I've got my iCloudarea. These are the things that
I'm dealing with. I've got theiCloud Photo Library turned on
on all of my devices. But I getto choose device by device
whether that device is optimizedor has full resolution versions
of everything on it. So for myiPhone and my iPad, I'm saving
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space by optimizing the libraryon the mobile devices. iCloud
storage doesn't have an option,you can optimize that that's
always going to be fullresolution. But if I take like a
high def 4k video on my phone,it's like five gigabytes. After
I finished recording it, it willmove up into the iCloud storage
area, and then optimize on myphone. So I only have a
(28:38):
thumbnail, and it will free upthat five gigs of space on my
phone for me, it will optimizethe phone. And when I want to
watch it again, I tap it, I waitfor it to download then I watch
it iPhones and iPads I encouragethe configuration of optimizing
on my laptop or desktop. I don'tlike to optimize. I also buy two
terabyte hard drives, sorry, oneterabyte two terabyte hard
drives, so I have enough room. Ithink it's important that
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somewhere in your home, you havea computer with all of your
photos and videos in fullresolution. So you have a copy
of them with you. That's not aniCloud, and it's not internet
dependent. You understand what Imean by that?
Audrey (29:16):
I think I do. And I'll just kind of tag on to I don't
know if I shared this with youor not but my mother in law her
house burned down. She lost allof her physical photos, all of
them. So the entire family gottogether and you know put
together a Google Drive whateverand started scanning the photos
(29:36):
that they had that theyremembered she had they had
copies
Jamie (29:39):
of things that they got texted or just anything they had
anywhere but now we have a
Audrey (29:43):
resource to be able to print those again and we've
printed num numbers have themand we've been able to get more
photos on her new walls, youknow, you know so it's a big
deal.
Jamie (29:55):
So, here's here's why.
Yeah, this is this is okay. Wetalked about backups. A backup
is different from a cloudversion, I have this in the
cloud, I have it backed up,cloud isn't backed up. Because
if I delete it here, it deletesit there deletes it everywhere.
Cloud syncing very Yeah,exactly. Deletion sync. That's
not a backup, a backup means Ilost and I want it back. So it's
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we do talk about disasterscenarios. And we talked about
backing things up, and you justhad the perfect scenario is, in
my scenario, I have a fullresolution version in the cloud
of all my photos and videos. Ialso have a full resolution
version on my laptop here at thehouse. And that covers me in one
way, which is if the house burnsdown, if somebody comes in and
(30:39):
steals a laptop, I have thecloud version, I buy a new
laptop, I download it. Theopposite scenario is the
earthquake comes and theInternet goes away for a month,
and I can't get to my cloudversion. Maybe the internet goes
away forever, maybe Armageddon,right. So I need a local copy of
them too. So these two things,and I need them backed up. in
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multiple places, too. I need onelocal backup on a local hard
drive that sits next to mycomputer, and then a second
cloud backup. That's not asinking style backup, but a
backup backup. That means I cango back a month and find things
I'm missing. So we useBackblaze, but like Carbonite,
Backblaze, things like that.
(31:22):
Right. And so now all of asudden, I've got my Time Machine
Backup, local hard drive backup,my computer's got a full
resolution copy. So these areboth full resolution copies.
iCloud has a full resolutioncopy. And Backblaze has a full
resolution copy. And my iPhoneand iPad have optimized versions
thumbnails smaller, right, butnot not that I could use to
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recover from. And I mentioned,this is a half an hour 45 minute
conversation because of howcomplex this can be. And
Audrey (31:52):
I'm gonna add questions to my question.
Jamie (31:56):
And I just want to make sure that everybody listening,
and you knows, we haven't evenstarted talking about the
switch. I'm just talking about,like how to cover your butt in
the Apple world. We're stilltalking apples to apples. And
it's it's that that much for meto train non switchers. That's
it's that much. And I'm not evendone training, the training. I
mean, I've got a five hourtraining course for photos
(32:20):
alone, I've got a two hourbackup class, you know what I
mean? There is plenty to knowand learn about how to keep your
data safe, know where it is, andrecover from disasters. But it
comes back down to this questionof where's my master copy what
formats it in? Because we talkedabout backups, there's also the
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three and three rule we everheard of the three and three
rule for backups. You want yourmost important stuff. And three
formats are like fit not notlike JPEG versus non JPEG, but I
mean, physical formats, right ona CD, on a floppy drive, right
burn to a DVD on an externalhard drive. And you want to
(33:02):
revisit those formats everythree years. Because, you know,
I had an amazing musiccollection when I was a kid. And
it was on a track. Yeah. Andthen when that went away, I
bought all the albums since Igot this huge album collection,
but then I needed a cassettetape. So I got all the cassette
tapes, and then I needed them onCDs. And now my laptop doesn't
(33:23):
even have a CD player.
Audrey (33:28):
Times have changed,
Jamie (33:31):
right? But then I was really into movies. And so I got
a VCR. And the beta was thething, beta weight. Beta wasn't
the thing. VHS was the thing.
Right? Yeah. And so I've got allthese external hard drives, and
I've got all these photobackups. And I'm in really good
shape, because I made sure I'vegot like great hard drives, and
they're USB, and now my laptoponly has USB C adapters or
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ports.
Audrey (33:57):
So what's the recommended three that you got?
For me right now, since we'retalking about it?
Jamie (34:03):
We've got already talked about you know, I mean, you've
got your master copy that's onthe computer loud. You've got
it, you've got a cloud backup,and you've got a local external
hard drive backup.
Audrey (34:14):
And that's not the same thing as the computer or it is.
Jamie (34:17):
The computer's the master copy. Okay, right. So that's
kind of consider that that isone out of three. Like that's a
copy of it. Okay, you got asecond copy on the external hard
drive and a third copy in thecloud.
Audrey (34:28):
Okay, okay. Yeah, I'm good. I got it.
Jamie (34:31):
Right. And if you want to burn it to a DVD, great, but on
my laptop doesn't have a DVDplayer anymore does yours? No,
you know, my desktop
Audrey (34:39):
does but but not so much.
Jamie (34:42):
Just the complexity, letting something like Time
Machine, back it up so that it'san incremental backup is
different from me dragging anddropping it so that it's a
carbon clone type of backup.
Right, like anything thatincrementally backs up could
blow up and not work where butif I drag and drop it It's only
backed up at that moment. Andanything I changed doesn't get
pulled into it either. So that'sa whole nother conversation
(35:04):
about that. So let's get off ofthat part of it. Like, right
back up some stuff. That shouldbe a conversation, but we just
had it. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Sowe're moving slowly toward how
do we help Audrey get her herphotos off her phone and onto
her iPhone. That's ultimatelywhat we want to address here.
(35:25):
I'm going to very quickly justgo through the easiest scenario
that I would recommend, andyou're going to shoot holes in
it or tell me whether it will orwill not work in your situation.
Okay. You are a PC user.
Therefore, I would plug myAndroid phone into that PC and
use whatever tool Microsoftgives me, which I believe is
(35:47):
their Microsoft images area. Andyou plug it in and it says, Hey,
there's an external camera ordrive that's got photos, can I
import them? And you say importthem and they all come back
Audrey (35:57):
covered? Like I yeah, you're speaking my language.
Step one,
Jamie (36:01):
so. So let's now eliminate that and say that your
question is, how do I get an offthe Android onto the iPhone?
Because it's not on the Androidanymore? It's on the Microsoft
computer. Step one. Yes. Now,how do I get it from my
Microsoft computer?
Audrey (36:18):
Yeah, how do I how do I put it in my phone?
Jamie (36:22):
So the other could the next question comes this
Microsoft computer, using theMicrosoft images area is now
your master copy of all yourphotos and videos. So are you
going to be pulling off of youriPhone and putting them in there
to our ultimate goal is one biglibrary of everything in one
(36:45):
place. You know, is that notyour goal?
Audrey (36:48):
It is but now I'm like thinking coke. Okay, so we know
that these apples.
Jamie (36:55):
Everybody, I want you to hear that. I'm thinking I've got
her thinking ultimately, as atrainer,
Audrey (37:02):
have these really funny, you know,
Jamie (37:05):
port, lightning ports, lightning, or it's called
lightning. I don't have all theterminology. That's okay. That's
called a lightning port. Yeah.
Audrey (37:12):
But it's, you know, so now I'm like, Okay, do I even
have a connector for that sothat I can like, remove them?
Jamie (37:20):
Do you charge? Do you charge your iPhone? You plug it
in and charge it? Yeah. Where'sthat cable? Yeah, got it right
here. plugged into a brick likethis at the end of it. Um,
Audrey (37:31):
well, right now it's plugged into my battery. This
giant battery backup for my PC.
Jamie (37:38):
Right. But you can unplug this USBC from that, right?
Yeah, you can plug that intoyour PC.
Audrey (37:44):
Yeah, well, that work.
It's apples to oranges. USB isUSB, but it's Apple stuff going
into well.
Jamie (37:53):
So this is. Yeah. Yeah.
So So Apple and Microsoft workthe same way when it comes to
cameras. Okay, so let me justsay this real quick.
Audrey (38:04):
This is so confusing.
Oh, no, that's USBC.
Jamie (38:07):
That's USB C to lightning. Does your laptop have
USB C on it?
Audrey (38:13):
Um, no, but I think my No.
Jamie (38:16):
Okay, so then we're, again, formatting issue where
it's like, I have USB on mylaptop, but I have a USBC cable.
You should be able to get acable like this that has USB on
the other end that can plug intoyour laptop. You can get them
anywhere. I'll see. I'll have
Audrey (38:32):
one of those in my truck. Actually, yeah,
Jamie (38:34):
I'll send you one. Okay, no, I've
Audrey (38:36):
got one. I've got one.
Right. But yeah,
Jamie (38:39):
okay. So,
Audrey (38:41):
you know, you've stopped with this crap.
Jamie (38:45):
It's so complicated. I quit. Right? I don't understand
that. I didn't explain thatscenario earlier at all. It's so
complicated. I'm done. Okay, soback to the main point that I
don't care if it's an Applelaptop, or a Windows laptop.
Both of them have the mechanismwhere if you plug in anything
that's got a camera on it, theMicrosoft images or the Apple
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photos is going to say, oh, acamera, digital camera, and
external storage device withimages on it. How would you like
me to handle this? Got it. Sojust like you plug your Android
into your Windows machine, andit says, Hey, there's photos
here. Do you want me to put themin the Microsoft images area?
You plug in your Apple iPhone,guess what the Microsoft images
(39:28):
thing is gonna say, hey, there'sa camera with photos and
storage. Well, how do you wantme to handle this? Right? Right
but, but but but, but alwaysthere's but the complication is
if your iPhone is optimizing theimages and putting the full
resolution on the cloud andoptimizing the local ones on the
phone to save storage, you maynot be able to just simply
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import them.
Audrey (39:51):
And is that what we covered before about low res?
Jamie (39:54):
That's the low res low res Well, no photos we talked
about messages Message, the lowquality image setting was in
messages. That's what we'retalking about. Oh, okay, it's
different, is I'll pull this upand show this to you make sure
you know what we're talkingabout here. Okay, so I'm on my
iPhone again, I'm going to gointo the settings application.
(40:17):
At the very top, I'm gonna gointo where it says Apple,
iCloud, all that stuff. I'mgonna go into the iCloud area of
this, I'm going to go into thephotos area of this. And right
here it says, optimize theiPhone storage or keep download
and keep originals,
Audrey (40:31):
trying to I'm trying to compare my settings to yours
because I'm like, do Iunderstand this optimized iPhone
storage is checked,
Jamie (40:39):
okay. So for you and your situation, if you have a big
enough hard drive, and you couldkeep the originals on the phone,
then you would always know thatyou can plug the phone into the
PC and just import and deleteoff the phone. And you've you've
put it into your master libraryon the PC.
Audrey (40:57):
Okay, so hear me out, make sure I'm thinking straight.
I physically plug into thisAndroid, get the photos on my
desktop, then I physically pluginto my iPhone and get a copy of
the photos to my iPhone. They'regoing to be optimized on my
iPhone, but they are going toremain whole on my PC. Is that
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correct?
Jamie (41:21):
Close. Okay, but you're you're already going in the
opposite flow than what I'mtalking about?
Audrey (41:27):
Of course, because the oranges are opposite.
Jamie (41:31):
No, you're just you're ahead. You're ahead of me. Okay,
you've got your end goal inmind. And I'm trying to give you
a full picture. All right. Myquestion to you. So now you see
where you can say optimized ornot optimized? That's all I
wanted you to see in thissituation. Okay, got it. Got it.
(41:51):
The question that I asked youis, are you now going to take
the photos and videos on youriPhone and move them onto the
PC? So they ever in your masterlibrary?
Audrey (42:03):
Are we talking like automatically that that's what I
want to have happened? There's,
Jamie (42:08):
there's no way to automatically do that. Because
you've already said I don't wantto use a cloud. I want to plug
in I want to manually import. Sowhen you were on your Android,
Audrey (42:18):
is it too late to say that might be changing my mind
about the cloud?
Jamie (42:24):
I warned you two or three episodes ago that I was going to
be a good influence. You werelike, are you going to make me
and I said no, I'm not going tomake you I'm going to educate
you until you know enough tomake a good decision for
yourself. Oh, no, I'm fickle.
Well, but this is let's addressthis is learning. This is the
(42:44):
progression. This is if youdon't know what you don't know,
how can you make a gooddecision? If you don't know
something? How can you make agood decision? If you don't know
what you need to know, meaningyou don't know what you don't
know. I know I personally knowwhat you don't know.
Audrey (43:02):
And now I know.
Jamie (43:06):
Like, I know that you don't know this. And I also know
you've made decisions withoutcertain reback.
Audrey (43:11):
Right, so three backups.
One of the three is the cloud.
So now I'm like okay, well, Ihave to change my mind about all
this.
Jamie (43:20):
Two backups, one master copy, two backups and one cloud
sync. It's it's a lot. It's alot more. Right. So ultimately,
you're trying to figure out aflow. But again, we've taken the
android phone out of it becausebecause you've already put
everything on the Android gotpulled down onto the laptop if
(43:40):
you want to now have thediscussion how do I get from the
laptop to the iPhone? We can gostraight to that
Audrey (43:44):
your question is am I going to then put my photos and
such on to the laptop from theiPhone?
Jamie (43:52):
In my opinion, let's go back to some of the foundation
in my opinion. Everybody shouldhave full resolution version
somewhere in their home in casethere is an earthquake and the
Internet goes away and if youriPhone is optimized for photos
and videos, the only fullresolution versions you have or
an iCloud
Audrey (44:13):
Okay, right. Yeah,
Jamie (44:15):
and that's why I showed you right oh, that's I told you
this maybe this is two episodes.
This is complicated. Okay. So onyour iPhone, you could say don't
optimize, keep full keep fullresolution versions on my phone
and put full resolution versionsin the cloud. Okay, and
therefore I can plug my phoneinto my PC and just import Okay,
and even say import to the PCand delete from the phone to
(44:39):
save my phone space. The Deletefrom the phone the deletion will
sync to the iCloud and you'llsave iCloud space to
Audrey (44:47):
automatically Yeah.
Jamie (44:49):
If you import into the your PC from your iPhone and
tell it to delete upon import,it will delete it from the
phone's iCloud Photo Library.
Therefore, deleting it from theiCloud version two
Audrey (45:00):
Yikes, you got to be careful. You got to know what
you carry. Oh my gosh, okay.
Okay.
Jamie (45:07):
So for your situation, I personally, if I was going to
use a PC and an iPhone, Iwouldn't optimize the photos and
videos on my iPhone.
Audrey (45:16):
But aren't full resolution copies go into iCloud
Jamie (45:21):
they are. But in this scenario, if you have optimized
on your phone and fullresolution in the cloud, and the
earthquake comes and theInternet goes away, you are
separate from your fullresolution version,
Audrey (45:31):
I think I'm following this train of thought. So what I
need to do is, log into iCloudon my PC and download to my
computer.
Jamie (45:41):
That's another option.
That's one, you have to you haveto you have two options. One is
to keep full resolution on yourphone and then just plug it in
and import like you used to fromyour Android. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Okay. Right. Your second optionwould be yes, go to icloud.com
and download out of the cloud.
(46:02):
But then you've also got todownload and then put where they
belong, and then go and delete.
And, you know, it's a lot ofsteps. Now, in the same sense to
get your photos that are on yourPC. Now, onto your iPhone, you
have one of the options is to goto icloud.com and just push them
up into the library and they'llsink back down to
Audrey (46:22):
your phone. Yeah, that's what I need to do.
Jamie (46:25):
And that might be the easiest and the quickest.
Audrey (46:27):
It's definitely one of them. One of the things that I
need to do, because like I said,when I'm just I'm sorting
through this, I'm on my couch.
And this is funny, because, youknow, looking over my husband,
and he's like, Oh, you got anApple ID? And I'm like, why?
Yes, I do.
Jamie (46:43):
And I know what it does.
Audrey (46:45):
Jamie has made me smart.
You know, so it's just like,it's kind of funny these
conversations now. But thereality is, is I still have to
figure out how to combine andmake my master copy master
library, or that I understand myflow so that I know where my
master copies are. And I knowwhere my backup copies
Jamie (47:10):
are, right? And what's on the iPhone, is neither you could
drop your iPhone into theriverlea
Audrey (47:17):
the least reliable space,
Jamie (47:19):
you drop your iPhone into the
Audrey (47:21):
river that goes with us every
Jamie (47:23):
right. And that's why having the iCloud Photo Library
turned on and having fullresolution in the cloud is
great, right? Because you canalways buy a new phone, turn it
back on and get everything back.
And you've recovered from thatdisaster scenario. Yeah,
Audrey (47:37):
okay. Okay, I'm gonna try. I'm gonna get myself dialed
in before the next one. I'mgonna be like, Jamie, my data, I
know where it is.
Jamie (47:49):
So quick question. Are they quick? Nothing. I told you
nothing. Nothing in thisconversation? Is a quick answer.
Because there's just layers ofcomplexity and decisions to be
made and things to consider. Areyou going to try to keep like,
kind of like, oh, I want myfavorite pictures on my phone.
(48:11):
So I can like show them to myfriends when I'm out. And about
course,
Audrey (48:14):
right? Favorites option, right? And we all love
Jamie (48:17):
but you put a little heart on it. That becomes a
favorite. It shows up in yourfavorite album. Yes. Right. Are
you then going to import? You'regoing to have them on the PC
too, though. Right. So you'rethere in your master library,
but they're also on your phone?
Audrey (48:31):
I think so. Yeah.
Because, you know, I like to,you know, make creative things
with photos. And you know,
Jamie (48:38):
and the phone the phone, the phone does memories now and
it makes slideshows for youbased on your favorite memories
and some really cool things youprobably don't even know about
yet. On the iPhone photos area.
Audrey (48:47):
I was exploring. I saw some of that looks pretty cool.
Jamie (48:51):
So how, how are you? How are you in your master library
on your PC? How are you going tokeep things separated on? I
don't know. You already know theyou already know the question.
I'm thinking about this already,aren't you files, it's just
separate files, right? How am Ikeeping everything that's
archived versus my activelibrary that I want to have on
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my phone all the time. And Iknow that the act of library on
my phone is in the masterlibrary and active on my phone.
Audrey (49:22):
It's like a brain twister.
Jamie (49:25):
A little it's a little challenging to guide me through.
We're going to talk about itnext time because we're almost
out of time I am going to goahead and turn the screw on you.
Okay, in the Apple world with myMacBook Pro, my iCloud Drive and
my iPhone iCloud Photo Library.
I have all of my photos on allof my devices
Audrey (49:49):
in there already favorited aren't they their
favorite? Oh my Lord.
Jamie (49:54):
And if I if I cared to clean it out and delete
duplicates, or delete multipleLike I took six copies to get
the one good one I could, I'veprobably got 5000 memes. I've
just pulled off a Facebookbecause I thought they were
funny or pertinent, right? Imean, I've got 150 gigs of
photos and videos in the cloud150 of gigs of photos and videos
(50:16):
on my laptop because they'reboth not optimized. And then my
phone and my iPad have optimizedversions of those libraries. So
they're only about 30 gigs,because they're only
representing my 150 Gig library.
And I don't have to do any ofthe work you're doing. Ah, okay.
I don't mean to solve thewounds.
Audrey (50:36):
It is a little bit. It's a little salty. It's in there
too, I think because thisburden,
Jamie (50:41):
but and I'm not doing it because I'm against Android, or
I'm against Microsoft. But thisis the advantage the apple
universe when you when you jointhe whole universe, when your
apples to apples. Yeah,
Audrey (50:54):
I hear it. Touching at a time, though,
Jamie (50:59):
and I am happy. I'm more than happy to spend this time
with you and talk about what itis and why it's complicated. And
what are the little tweakypoints? And if you wanted to do
it this way, how to do I know, Ido know how to do it. I just
don't know why anybody would?
Gotcha. Did I say that out loud?
I'm
Audrey (51:18):
so sorry. It was kind of
Jamie (51:25):
but it comes back to what we just talked about is that you
don't know what you don't know,you don't know, what you're up
against at certain times of thisjourney of this process. Right?
I need a good phone, I want theright features, I want something
that's going to work and not becomplicated. Right? And
(51:47):
unfortunately, Money solves theproblem money at it. And we can
like make it easier for you.
Audrey (51:52):
Sometimes.
Jamie (51:54):
You know, but this is the crux of it. This is the number
one switcher issue. Right? Andit took us five episodes of like
kind of, you know, fiddlingaround and talking about not
answering different questions orwhatever. The iPhone is the
(52:16):
number one digital camera on theplanet more photos are taken
with iPhones than any othercamera. In the last five years.
Nobody's nobody touches them.
More photos and videos are takenwith iPhones and any other
digital cameras barely exist.
And people don't buy Canondigital cameras anymore. They
just don't exist. You know,they're out there. They exist.
scuze me but nobody, you know,your average person is smiling
(52:38):
when all your photographyprofessionals are buying them.
And it's because Apple's madethis work. Right. And as I said,
about halfway through thisconversation, it already took me
20 minutes just to explain theapples to apples side fit. Yeah.
And now another 20 minutes, wrapyour brain around with another
(52:59):
20 minutes. And we've talkedapples to oranges. And we're
only halfway through that. Yeah.
Right. Really, really, because Imean, I've given you and I'm
gonna say this for now, I'vegiven you just enough
information to be verydangerous. If you walk away from
this conversation ago, I knowenough, I'm going to start
implementing you'll probablyscrew it up. I hate to say it
like that.
Audrey (53:19):
Well, you know, I'm an implementer.
Jamie (53:21):
I know you're an implementer. But you're here.
But again, it's not personal.
It's everybody. It's anybody.
Yes, yes. It's people that liketech, you like tech, you want to
play with it. Nobody wants tospend this money and not do it.
Not use it not go for it. Yeah,that's right. Yeah, but but but
one of the things I hope we'veproven in this episode or this
(53:42):
conversation, is that it iscomplicated enough. That if you
tried to do it by yourself,you're gonna, you're gonna cause
damage, you're gonna make itworse. If you don't get some
education around it, you're notmaking good decisions. Right?
Yeah. And you'll have to undoit, or do it a second, third,
(54:04):
fourth time or, you know,there's there's just layers of
that. And that is what makesswitching hard. I mean, bottom
line, that's why switching ishard, right, is that we think we
know or we can at least into itand figure it out. But we do
need help. We need somewhere toturn and you hear me kind of
harass Audrey about like she'spart of my company and she has
not watched any of my trainingvideos
Audrey (54:26):
needed to yet.
Jamie (54:29):
We've we've had at least two things today that you didn't
know that are in my first fourhours of training. If you were
to do my iPhone and iPad, allthe basics and my iPhone, iPad,
navigating apps class, rightwhen you were in settings, and
you're like I don't see messagesand I have to say look for the
left pointing blue arrow at thetop left because you're inside
(54:51):
of general and you need to goback up a level to settings.
Yeah, you
Audrey (54:55):
got that on that one.
But now you said I can't golooking
Jamie (54:59):
for You can, what I'd love is if you were to just go
take that one first two hourclass, and then come back and
report back to us as much as youfigured out already. Did you
learn enough in that class toreally make it worth your time?
Yeah. Okay. And if you'd bewilling to in the next before,
you know, next next episode ortwo, just go watch that two hour
(55:20):
class, even you can do in 20minute chunks, half hour chunks,
watch it over a week or two orwhatever time you have, but
watch this the all the Basicsclass and come back and tell me
did you learn worthwhile stuff?
Or, you know, was it like, Okay,I'm already I'm already past
that. Give me some feedback.
Audrey (55:35):
Okay, I will happy to Okay. I know I'll learn stuff.
And then I'll be like, Oh, no,no, that's not what he was
talking about. Yeah. Anydifference between this
operating system and operating?
Jamie (55:49):
It might be a versioning issue. It's always a versioning
issue. Any last questions for methis week, just to clarify what
we did talk about.
Audrey (55:57):
I think if I even try to open that can of worms, it's
gonna get shut down. So I'mgonna reserve my question.
Jamie (56:03):
Okay, when you've got a list and we'll pick this back
up, and we'll go deeper intocertain aspects of this topic
next time around.
Audrey (56:09):
Yeah, sounds great.
Jamie (56:11):
Okay, um, Jamie, come visit us. royalwise.com Audrey
is always thank you for beingsuch a good sport and really
taking us through all of thisstuff. Because really, it's not
easy, and, but it's fun. Okay,visit royalwise.com Go take some
classes the Royalwise owls areaon demand web based learning
(56:31):
solution, and we will see you inthe next episode of switching
from Android to Apple. Thanks.
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about transferring photos andvideos from her old Android to
her new iPhone. We also have ourfirst person on the street
interview of another switcherand ask them why did they switch
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and defining what a blue messagemeans, as opposed to messages
that turn green. And I go overbackups versus syncing data,
storing the master copies of ourphotos or other data cloud
storage versus local storage andrecovering from natural and
maybe not so natural disasters.
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what they don't know. And we doknow what you don't know. And
also the fact that growth orlearning can be kind of
uncomfortable and painful. Sohow do we deal with that
ultimately, I break down theapple universals built in
process of using the iCloudPhoto Library on multiple Apple
devices to achieve our goals andhow it simplifies the entire
process. And then finally,Audrey accepts my challenge to
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episode she's gonna come backand report did she learned
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Jamie (03:00):
So hey, everybody, welcome. I'm Jamie pollack. My
company's Royalwise Find usonline@royalwise.com another
episode of switching from Appleto Android from Android to Apple
ups. I said that exactly. Makingthe switch the switcher I've
been changing the name everyweek. Now we're switching from
Android to Apple. Audrey's withme like always. Hi, Audrey. How
(03:23):
you doing? How's it gone?
Audrey (03:25):
Going? Great.
Jamie (03:26):
Wonderful. So I did a little research on a couple of
things. And I got to kind ofjust follow up on from the last
episode or the lastconversation. When I asked it to
Apple is an Android to Apple orAndroid to iPhone, that that
question. You know, Android isan all encompassing term, it
talks about the software and thehardware. So when you say
(03:47):
Android, you kind of know it'san Android phone. And you know,
it's the Android operatingsystem. And so if I say iPhone,
and I'm not talking about both,I say Apple I am. So I think the
correct term is Android toApple, because it's this this
full platform package to thisfull platform package. Would you
agree that that's probablyright.
Audrey (04:04):
You're the expert. But yeah, it sounds right to me.
Jamie (04:06):
What do you get back?
It's going to be that or Androidto Apple iPhone, which is kind
of redundant. So I don't know ifthat's the thing, another
correction just because I alwayswant to make sure that I'm
correct or if I'm wrong, I'mwilling to admit it. Is I talked
to another Android person whoswitched to somebody who we
might sneak into a later episodeand said yes, androids did do
(04:28):
occasionally have SD cards aslot for your SD card not a SIM
card. And I when you said youknow I had I had a SD card in my
phone for storing my photos. Icould just pull the card out and
pull the photos off of the card.
I made the bad assumption thatit was a SIM card and it's not
(04:51):
that androids do have a SIM cardfor cellular service and then a
micro SD for swappable harddrivespace which is complete Really
alien to Apple like iPhone neverhas had it never will have it.
Right. And so there's some
Audrey (05:06):
smallest floppy disk on the planet, right? Yeah.
Jamie (05:10):
And then for our audience members that don't know what a
floppy disk is. So when you'rein Microsoft Office, there's the
save icon, that's still a floppydisk looks like a floppy disk in
Word, right? But then it's funnybecause the younger kids don't
know what it is like, that meanssave. Why does that little icon
mean save? Because it's theshape of a floppy disk. They
(05:32):
don't know what that is. Andalso, was it a five and a
quarter inch or three and a halfinch? You know, because floppy
disks used to be big and floppy.
They became small and hardplastic. And so even the term
floppy disk is quite accuratefor what they were when they
ended. Anyway, let's check inwith Audrey, how are you doing?
How's the iPhone? How's thestuff
Audrey (05:55):
is good? Actually, I spoke to a friend of mine
recently, who has decided tomake the switch for security
reasons. And of course, youknow, my husband being you know,
the wonderful helper that he isis like trying to give them tips
and whatever. And I'm like, oh,no, no, no, you just you just
need Jamie. Just trust me onthis, you need to
Jamie (06:18):
be WJ D. Well, Jamie do that's, that's what we'd like to
hear. Well send them my way. I'mhappy to help
Audrey (06:25):
them training it start to finish right here, take
Jamie (06:27):
some classes, we'll start publishing, we'll start
publishing this series that canwatch this and learn a whole
bunch of great stuff, for sure.
Well, I want to start off withsomething this week, I had a
great experience with my furnacewas being serviced. And so Jason
from sunset heating came over toservice my air conditioning and
(06:48):
my furnace and made a commentthat he had switched from
Android to Apple A few yearsago. And I interviewed him and
asked him to share his storywith me. And so let me get this
up here. And I'm going to showit to you. And then that's going
to kind of kick off ourconversation for today. So hey,
Jamie, here, I'm with Jason fromsunset heating and cooling, He
came to serve as my furnace andmy air conditioning. And he told
(07:10):
me that he switched from Androidto Apple A few years ago and had
a very specific reason why, whydid you switch to Apple to
iPhone?
Unknown (07:19):
My reason being was my kids were in competitive sports,
I would take video and textvideo to family members, I
couldn't make it to the sportingevents and the picture quality
downgraded, I'd have to trim thevideo. And then when I switched
to the iPhone, the iPhone wouldsend perfect quality, same
(07:39):
quality as I was filming, peoplecould see it. And that signified
a fuzzy version. And that's whyI switched the media is way
better on iPhone and
Jamie (07:48):
an Android. There you go.
And you said you weren't sure ifthey ever fixed that or not?
Unknown (07:51):
Yeah, I don't know. I looked into it. At the time. It
was a issue with Android. Theynever fixed it was a known
issue. You could search onlineand Right, right. Right,
exactly. And after I switched,you know, I'm so happy my
iPhone. I'll never go back toAndroid,
Jamie (08:05):
as we love to hear.
Thanks, Jason. So there you haveit. What do you think about
that?
Audrey (08:10):
Oh, wow. Yeah, I can totally relate. I can relate to
that in a huge way. My husbandwould send me videos all the
time. His favorite capture wouldbe like a rare bird that hit our
bird feeder. And it would alwayscome in to my Android all
pixelated and just a teeny tinymess. And he's like, Did you see
(08:31):
that thing? And I'm like, uh,yeah, what are we excited about?
Jamie (08:38):
But what you're talking about was he was taking the
video on an iPhone and thensending it to you on the Android
and it was showing up funny. Soone of the things Apple just
recently, I think two years ago,changed their compression from
regular like JPEG compressionand mov compression to H E IC
and HV see compression, which isan AI just last week, of course,
(09:02):
I was saying how Apple's opensource and not proprietary. I
don't know if these are, I don'tthink their proprietary
compression formats, but theyare superior. We're getting much
better compression for video andphotos when you're using the
Photos app and you're using theApple camera natively. But when
you share or export, they've gotto convert to mov or convert to
(09:23):
jpg so that they're universal.
Because other platforms don'tuse H E IC or HEV C. So that's
actually something that's moreadvanced. And it's something
we're dealing with in the Appleworld where occasionally
somebody will send somebodysomething and it will be the
wrong file. You'll download itwithout converting it and it'll
be the wrong format and won'twork. You know, but Jason's
issue was he would record it onthe Android send it to the Apple
(09:45):
people and it would just alwaysbe fuzzy. He said it would just
always be pixelated and fuzzy.
Audrey (09:51):
So it was actually in reverse happening.
Jamie (09:53):
For him. It was he was on an Android and he sent it out to
other people and it didn't itdidn't look good. Wow. So he
said now that he's gone to Appleit's and you know you hear me
almost every week I say applesto apples is one thing and
apples to oranges this in othervideos let's I mean this will
just mention this real quickbefore we jump into your
questions and what we want tosolve for you this week. videos
(10:14):
get big. That video I just tookof Jason was one minute and it
was 120 megabytes. Right so I'mnot emailing that to anybody
right or five Meg's right if Iwere five Meg's and emails
complaining, but I could textmessage it to anybody because
text messaging doesn't care.
Specifically, if you're usingApple met the Messages app and
you're using iMessages, which isApple's Wi Fi based message
(10:37):
sending system okay,
Audrey (10:40):
what's the difference?
What's what's the difference?
Jamie (10:44):
That's why That's why I love having you here to ask
those hard questions.
Audrey (10:50):
Like okay, everything that you just said I'm like what
that means.
Jamie (10:57):
Traditional text messaging is called SMS SMS text
messaging cellular Verizon ATand T T Mobile, right. And it's
actually stands for Simple Mailsending protocol, Simple Mail
sending. And so that's on youriPhone, the messages that turn
green are people that are notusing Apple's iMessage system,
they're using an Android device,and it's coming into your AT and
(11:18):
T or Verizon or T mobilecellular service. So
traditional.
Audrey (11:22):
Yeah, I noticed when I changed to an iPhone, right?
We're like, oh, my gosh, you'rean
Jamie (11:30):
iPhone, you get a message. And it turns in, it
turns blue, right? That bluetext message bubbles, means it's
coming from an Apple devicecoming on to an Apple device. So
basically, the blue messages aresending from apple to apple
through what it's called theiMessage. Service. Apple's
iMessage is
Audrey (11:49):
okay, so blue is another iPhone, green is an Android,
Jamie (11:53):
blue is apples to apples, and green is anything but as
everything else. Okay, right. SoSo blue is apples to apples, and
green is apples to oranges. No,we'll just use my terminology
that I keep keep drilling on.
And so if it's a blue thread,and you know, it's apples to
apples, then I mean, you couldsend a gigabyte video, and it
would eventually make its waythrough because it's going over
(12:16):
Wi Fi and uploading to themessages server and download
into the other phone. And we'renot getting dinged on, like an
email server where it's like,oh, booth in five to 10
megabytes, I'm going to be like,too much, I'm going to reject
your message. Right now theproblem we run into, and I think
we've mentioned this oncebefore, but I think it's what
people suffer from his messageshas never been good at
(12:38):
compressing video or compressingphotos. And so when you text
message, somebody have photo,and it turns blue, that's apples
to apples. It's full size, it'slike the whole five megabyte
file, it's the whole sevenmegabyte file doesn't compress
it down to 200 kilobytes, thatmost sending, like a photo that
you send should go down to underhalf a meg like you don't on a
tiny screen, you don't need thathigh resolution, you don't need
(13:00):
all that the file size, right?
So like, even when you email yousay, he would say well drop down
the size, right? Make it make itmedium or small, or don't send
actual size, I don't need tosend them a five meg file, I
just want them to see it. Now ifthe other person is going to
like print it, or especially ifthey're going to professionally
print it, you want them to havethe actual size, the full size,
and that's why you wouldn'temail something to the print
(13:23):
shop. Right? You're gonna uploadit somewhere.
Audrey (13:26):
This must be the reason why so many designers are Apple
people. At least that was myobservation. It's part of
Jamie (13:34):
it. It's part of that Apple's known. Yeah, I mean,
Apple is known for their graphicability and their support of
graphical artistry. They'vealways been known as the play
the platform for graphicalartistry. I don't think this
message is issue is why, youknow, I mean, anybody, a
Photoshop file is going to be agig five gigs, you know, you've
(13:56):
got to upload and download thatto a server somewhere, you're
not going to text message those.
Audrey (14:01):
That's so much business is conducted on smartphones
these days. So I imagine there'ssomebody somewhere that's
thinking, Oh, my gosh, I usethis all the time. You didn't
realize Apple was making itpossible for me.
Jamie (14:14):
Also, for end users for you as an iPhone end user right
now the the thing that I teachpeople or that I run into when
I'm supporting people, is likethey're running out of hard
drive space, and they're notsure why. And then I look on
their laptop or their phone andI look through what's taking up
their harddrive space. And theirmessages app is like 20
gigabytes, 30 gigabytes, becausetheir text messaging videos or
(14:38):
text messaging photos, andmessages has never been good at
compressing those or reducingthe size on sin they send the
actual size, and it bloats andfloats and blows and blows
messages isn't the best way toshare photos and videos in the
Apple universe. It is making aniCloud shared album and the
Photos app and putting thingsinto that sheet. or an album and
(15:00):
inviting people to share thatalbum, you know, and so that the
iCloud Photo Library can managethe compressing and the size and
you know, but people textmessage photos to each other all
the time, that's the way to doit. There actually is a setting
now on iPhone in the settingsunder I think it's under
messages where you can say,compress images when I send them
(15:23):
like you can actually tell it todo, but for the last 10 years
now, like it's just like fullsize, and it just goes crazy. So
when I try it, but let me let mejump in there and see if I see
it. And if so I'll bring it upto show it on the screen or
whatever. But um, okay, and itmight be Have you upgraded to
the new operating system? Idon't know. I don't know.
Audrey (15:44):
Okay, I think I know, I think you told me how to look
though. So I'm going to mysettings. And I'm finding my
little user person.
Jamie (15:52):
No, you're gonna go to settings and then general and a
software update.
Audrey (15:56):
Oh, okay. Yeah, SEO is already off track. Lather, rinse
repeat process people I'm justsaying right now you cannot just
know it. Once you've heard it.
Jamie (16:06):
You gotta get it's got to be repetitive, you got to do it
over and over. So softwareupdate, it's gonna check. I'm
running iOS 16.0. That's thecurrent version that I heard
16.1 or 16. Point 0.1 is out orcoming out very soon. I'm not
seeing it yet. But I know thatthere's some bug fixes that have
come out.
Audrey (16:22):
I have not yet upgraded to iOS 16.
Jamie (16:26):
Yeah, well, it'd be a good idea to do it. Um, there's
a couple of cool features. I'mgonna be doing my what's new
class in two weeks. But I editeda text message, I sent a text
message that had a typo. Iedited the typo as if we were in
Slack or something like that. Itwas very cool. That's awesome.
So I deleted a text message thatwasn't valid, because I sent the
text and I had a typo. I sent asecond text, like the Asterix
(16:47):
and then the correction to theto the typo, that I went back
and said, Well, I can edit themessage now. So I edited the
message and then deleted thesecond the correction message.
And then it warned me if theother person hasn't upgraded to
iOS 16. They're not going to seeall this. Oops. Oh, right. So it
still comes back to are we onthe same operating system? Are
we on the same platform?
Audrey (17:07):
So just take that again, slow down just for a second? My
brain, right? Like, you deleteda message and you're on 16. But
but I'm on 15.7? Yeah, I'm notgoing to see that message at
all.
Jamie (17:21):
No, they can't take it off of the other phone yet. So
you will have gotten the wrongone. Right, you remove it, I
can't remove it from your phonebecause you're not on iOS 16. So
it's not it's not on both endsjust yet. You know, that
actually makes a lot of sense.
Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna scrolldown a little bit to get this
other thing. I'm gonna go tomessages, and then go to the
very bottom here and see whereit says low quality image mode?
(17:43):
Oh, yeah. Okay, right, turn thaton. And now all of a sudden
messages isn't going to send afull size or actual size, it's
going to lower the quality ofthe image. Because again, I'm
not sending my text messages topeople, so they can publish my
pictures. I just want them tosee them.
Audrey (18:01):
Okay, you were in Settings, and then message
Jamie (18:04):
messages, and then went all the way to the bottom of
messages to find the low qualityimage option.
Audrey (18:10):
I am not seeing messages under settings. So I wonder if
it's different on mine. Now
Jamie (18:14):
tell me what it says at the very top of the entire thing
in black? What does it say atthe top of the screen?
Audrey (18:19):
Well, okay, so I was in general, right? So you're gonna
hit the
Jamie (18:23):
blue left pointing arrow to go back up a level? Oh, yeah.
Okay, you're just out at the topof the hierarchy.
Audrey (18:28):
This seat because I was checking like if I was upgraded
or not.
Jamie (18:32):
Right. So that's in my level two class and my
navigating apps class, that'swhat we talk about is like, how
to tell if I'm at the top ofhierarchy. Right pointing arrows
mean, go down into left pointingarrows mean go up out of saying
is I haven't graduated yet?
Well, but you haven't even takena while to take all the basics.
Take level one, level two, levelthree. I mean, again, you're not
(18:55):
taking the classes, you're justlike, I know enough, I'm
intuitive. I'm gonna make itwork. This is absolutely normal.
Nobody wants to sit down andtake a two hour class, they
think I can just figure it out.
And I'm not going to waste mytime. But I'll tell you, if you
take my two hour class, you comeout of these one hour sessions
going, you cleared up so muchfor me, the NSA, how do we do
(19:16):
and you're like, I cannotbelieve how many different
things that I didn't understand.
You just explained to me. AndI'm gonna take the class and
I'll explain everything, likefrom the foundation up, right,
but nobody wants to do that. ButI'm telling you, it'll save you
time in the long run. You know,even if you know 80% of the
class, you'll get three thingsout of it that you didn't know
that'll change.
Audrey (19:38):
I go and take those and then I come back to the
switcher. And I'll be like, Oh,no, no, no, that's not what my
tutor said. And by the way,you're arguing with yourself.
Jamie (19:46):
Maybe you don't even need you don't need the switch. You
don't need the the switcherpodcast or webcast. If you take
those classes, you'd alreadyknow all this stuff. So yeah,
you would ruin you would ruinour web series if you actually
went and did that. So nevermind.
So we talked a little bit aboutsending text messages difference
between eye messages and SMS,the blue and the green. But
(20:08):
really, the bigger conversationis photos and videos, how to
deal with them. What's theirformat? And for you, and for
this topic, it's switching.
Right? It's it's I'm moving fromAndroid on to Apple.
Audrey (20:23):
Hey, Emily, I just tore off the band aid and was like,
Oh, my gosh, Jamie, I'mbleeding.
Jamie (20:30):
Right? Well, you're bleeding. That's why you put the
bandaid on, right. But I toreoff the band and my stitches
came off with it or something.
No more scab or something, Idon't know. I've got a dress.
Another topic that is paramountto where we're going. And you're
not going to like I'm reachingfor another band aid. I'm going
to just shred shred that scabwith this conversation. When we
(20:53):
first talked about this. And youasked me, I said, Well, you're
on an Android, right? You've gota Google account. Google is the
cloud based service that Androidis use, so that you can have
your contacts, your calendar,syncing with whatever other
devices that you have. And withan Android and a Google account,
(21:14):
you have Google Photos. And sowhat's the question as well? Do
you have your photos in yourGoogle Photos area? So they are
also syncing in the cloud? Andsaved on you said, No, I don't
trust that. I don't I didn't Idon't do it that way. Then my
question or my responses, ofcourse. Okay. So you're plugging
in and manually pulling thingsor importing onto a computer
(21:34):
somewhere, and then you're kindof picking and choosing? I want
this to come off the phone, Iwant to leave this on the phone.
And so that's a manual process.
That's not autumn automatic. I'man automatic magic. Oh, you
Audrey (21:51):
should coin that one.
Jamie (21:52):
I have? No, that's a common common term. Right? We
like things to workautomatically, like that's,
that's what we want isautomatically technology. That's
all autumn automatic. This is abase philosophical debate on how
do you want to use thetechnology? You know, are you
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willing to move forward intousing the technology the way it
was designed to be used? Or youdid it this way forever, and
you're just want to continuewith what you know. And you're
not going to adapt? And you'renot going to learn? And you're
going to just try to forcethings into a process that you
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understand.
Audrey (22:37):
Oh, why do I feel like this is a trick question.
Jamie (22:43):
I don't mean it personally, it's not. It's not a
part of it. Let me start. Let meback up a little bit. This is
not a personal thing. This isnot just you. This is human
nature. And we keep coming backto that our first episode was a
motion. How do you feel? Right?
Is it working? And how do youfeel about it? Because how we
feel about technology dictateshow we use it. I just had this
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conversation with my marketingguy. I have a project I should
have had done six months ago,I've been dragging my feet, we
sat down and got it done and ahalf an hour. Right? Because he
held my hand. And when I hit awall, I'm like, Well, look, it's
this, this or this, and thatI've got three or four choices.
And I it's complicated, and Iquit. And when I sat by myself,
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every time I tried to do this,this task, I quit. To complicate
it more than I want to take ondon't care. Right? But with
HIMS, they're going oh, no,wait, wait, look at this, click
this, I will do it like this.
Okay, now you're done. Right.
And we got a complex task donein less than an hour. Because I
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didn't give up based on the factthat I didn't want to have to
learn and or it was toocomplicated. You know, it's not
first. So it's not you, it'severybody. In this specific
scenario, you do have multipleoptions on how photos on your
iPhone interacts with yourcomputer, right? Or how do you
organize? And how do you storeand I kind of mentioned this as
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a whole half an hour to an hourconversation, because there's
literally a dozen differentlittle pieces and decisions and
desires and whatever. And thefact that you don't have an
Apple computer is just acomplication, because you can't
just use the iCloud PhotoLibrary and have everything on
your phone on your laptop. We'vetalked about that when you go
apples to apples, it's designedin a certain way that just
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simplifies life. And when we goapples to oranges, we've got to
figure out how to work. That'sthat's that's the basic point of
what I'm pointing out is thatwe're going to appeal this on
you and I'm going to help youthrough this. But we're taking
the hard road.
Audrey (24:45):
And that's a hard road.
It's a hard road. Oh are you inin anticipation of this
conversation about you know,where, where is my data started
to, you know, again, going backto my Android like a little
looking through all the photos,where are they? How can I push
them over to my iPhone? Now? Howdo I get them there? I have so
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many tools available to me. AndI'm not sure which tool is the
best one. Honestly, we touchedon Google Drive and Google
Photos and kind of syncing thatway and trying to get that then
somehow over to the iPhone, thenthere's, you know, the Microsoft
stuff, OneDrive, and all that.
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It's just like, one tool afteranother. And actually, I ran
into the issue of, ooh, I thinkI've got things in multiple
places.
Jamie (25:37):
Oh, man, where's my data everywhere, right? It's
everywhere. And
Audrey (25:41):
it's messy. And so now I'm having to really kind of
make some decisions and figurethat out. Yep.
Jamie (25:47):
Yeah. Yeah. So well, that's apples to apples. Life is
simple. All the other things.
But bottom lines, you've got alibrary of photos on an Android
device, and you need themsomeplace else that's
accessible. Bottom line. In myopinion, Cloud is not
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necessarily your best option.
Audrey (26:17):
Oh, I'm so glad you said that.
Jamie (26:20):
Okay, so we find this before, but let's make sure that
we define it now. Because youjust mentioned there's all these
tools, and I'm not sure which iswhich. Google Drive a cloud
OneDrive, iCloud iCloud Drive. Imean, you know, I found drive
cloud, iCloud Photo Library, acloud, right? Those are all
cloud
Audrey (26:40):
checking your cellular provider to like they have
Jamie (26:43):
Verizon will happily give you a storage area for photos.
Comcast, oh, yeah, we gotstorage for you. Everybody's
good storage, Amazon, oh, mygod, Amazon's like, Hey, we got
prime storage. Our caveats, whatwe need to watch out for what we
don't want is for our data to bereformatted. As we move them
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from point A to point B, we wantthem to happening? No, no, not
necessarily, but it can. Imentioned earlier that in photos
natively on your phone andphotos, if you take a picture,
it's an H IEC. But if you exportit, it will be a JPEG upon upon
export. Meaning that the libraryitself may have one format.
Audrey (27:28):
But they function it's not just
Jamie (27:32):
by import export, I'm going to export these photos and
are my settings correct so thatthey don't get mangled as I do
that? So the first question thatwe answer is, where am I going
to have my master copies?
Where's my big collection, I'mgoing to tell you what I even
tell people in the apples toapples world, but I think it
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applies here too. Just so youknow, in the perfect apple
world, I have a laptop ordesktop I've got my iPhone and
my iPad and I've got my iCloudarea. These are the things that
I'm dealing with. I've got theiCloud Photo Library turned on
on all of my devices. But I getto choose device by device
whether that device is optimizedor has full resolution versions
of everything on it. So for myiPhone and my iPad, I'm saving
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space by optimizing the libraryon the mobile devices. iCloud
storage doesn't have an option,you can optimize that that's
always going to be fullresolution. But if I take like a
high def 4k video on my phone,it's like five gigabytes. After
I finished recording it, it willmove up into the iCloud storage
area, and then optimize on myphone. So I only have a
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thumbnail, and it will free upthat five gigs of space on my
phone for me, it will optimizethe phone. And when I want to
watch it again, I tap it, I waitfor it to download then I watch
it iPhones and iPads I encouragethe configuration of optimizing
on my laptop or desktop. I don'tlike to optimize. I also buy two
terabyte hard drives, sorry, oneterabyte two terabyte hard
drives, so I have enough room. Ithink it's important that
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somewhere in your home, you havea computer with all of your
photos and videos in fullresolution. So you have a copy
of them with you. That's not aniCloud, and it's not internet
dependent. You understand what Imean by that?
Audrey (29:16):
I think I do. And I'll just kind of tag on to I don't
know if I shared this with youor not but my mother in law her
house burned down. She lost allof her physical photos, all of
them. So the entire family gottogether and you know put
together a Google Drive whateverand started scanning the photos
(29:36):
that they had that theyremembered she had they had
copies
Jamie (29:39):
of things that they got texted or just anything they had
anywhere but now we have a
Audrey (29:43):
resource to be able to print those again and we've
printed num numbers have themand we've been able to get more
photos on her new walls, youknow, you know so it's a big
deal.
Jamie (29:55):
So, here's here's why.
Yeah, this is this is okay. Wetalked about backups. A backup
is different from a cloudversion, I have this in the
cloud, I have it backed up,cloud isn't backed up. Because
if I delete it here, it deletesit there deletes it everywhere.
Cloud syncing very Yeah,exactly. Deletion sync. That's
not a backup, a backup means Ilost and I want it back. So it's
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we do talk about disasterscenarios. And we talked about
backing things up, and you justhad the perfect scenario is, in
my scenario, I have a fullresolution version in the cloud
of all my photos and videos. Ialso have a full resolution
version on my laptop here at thehouse. And that covers me in one
way, which is if the house burnsdown, if somebody comes in and
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steals a laptop, I have thecloud version, I buy a new
laptop, I download it. Theopposite scenario is the
earthquake comes and theInternet goes away for a month,
and I can't get to my cloudversion. Maybe the internet goes
away forever, maybe Armageddon,right. So I need a local copy of
them too. So these two things,and I need them backed up. in
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multiple places, too. I need onelocal backup on a local hard
drive that sits next to mycomputer, and then a second
cloud backup. That's not asinking style backup, but a
backup backup. That means I cango back a month and find things
I'm missing. So we useBackblaze, but like Carbonite,
Backblaze, things like that.
(31:22):
Right. And so now all of asudden, I've got my Time Machine
Backup, local hard drive backup,my computer's got a full
resolution copy. So these areboth full resolution copies.
iCloud has a full resolutioncopy. And Backblaze has a full
resolution copy. And my iPhoneand iPad have optimized versions
thumbnails smaller, right, butnot not that I could use to
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recover from. And I mentioned,this is a half an hour 45 minute
conversation because of howcomplex this can be. And
Audrey (31:52):
I'm gonna add questions to my question.
Jamie (31:56):
And I just want to make sure that everybody listening,
and you knows, we haven't evenstarted talking about the
switch. I'm just talking about,like how to cover your butt in
the Apple world. We're stilltalking apples to apples. And
it's it's that that much for meto train non switchers. That's
it's that much. And I'm not evendone training, the training. I
mean, I've got a five hourtraining course for photos
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alone, I've got a two hourbackup class, you know what I
mean? There is plenty to knowand learn about how to keep your
data safe, know where it is, andrecover from disasters. But it
comes back down to this questionof where's my master copy what
formats it in? Because we talkedabout backups, there's also the
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three and three rule we everheard of the three and three
rule for backups. You want yourmost important stuff. And three
formats are like fit not notlike JPEG versus non JPEG, but I
mean, physical formats, right ona CD, on a floppy drive, right
burn to a DVD on an externalhard drive. And you want to
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revisit those formats everythree years. Because, you know,
I had an amazing musiccollection when I was a kid. And
it was on a track. Yeah. Andthen when that went away, I
bought all the albums since Igot this huge album collection,
but then I needed a cassettetape. So I got all the cassette
tapes, and then I needed them onCDs. And now my laptop doesn't
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even have a CD player.
Audrey (33:28):
Times have changed,
Jamie (33:31):
right? But then I was really into movies. And so I got
a VCR. And the beta was thething, beta weight. Beta wasn't
the thing. VHS was the thing.
Right? Yeah. And so I've got allthese external hard drives, and
I've got all these photobackups. And I'm in really good
shape, because I made sure I'vegot like great hard drives, and
they're USB, and now my laptoponly has USB C adapters or
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ports.
Audrey (33:57):
So what's the recommended three that you got?
For me right now, since we'retalking about it?
Jamie (34:03):
We've got already talked about you know, I mean, you've
got your master copy that's onthe computer loud. You've got
it, you've got a cloud backup,and you've got a local external
hard drive backup.
Audrey (34:14):
And that's not the same thing as the computer or it is.
Jamie (34:17):
The computer's the master copy. Okay, right. So that's
kind of consider that that isone out of three. Like that's a
copy of it. Okay, you got asecond copy on the external hard
drive and a third copy in thecloud.
Audrey (34:28):
Okay, okay. Yeah, I'm good. I got it.
Jamie (34:31):
Right. And if you want to burn it to a DVD, great, but on
my laptop doesn't have a DVDplayer anymore does yours? No,
you know, my desktop
Audrey (34:39):
does but but not so much.
Jamie (34:42):
Just the complexity, letting something like Time
Machine, back it up so that it'san incremental backup is
different from me dragging anddropping it so that it's a
carbon clone type of backup.
Right, like anything thatincrementally backs up could
blow up and not work where butif I drag and drop it It's only
backed up at that moment. Andanything I changed doesn't get
pulled into it either. So that'sa whole nother conversation
(35:04):
about that. So let's get off ofthat part of it. Like, right
back up some stuff. That shouldbe a conversation, but we just
had it. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Sowe're moving slowly toward how
do we help Audrey get her herphotos off her phone and onto
her iPhone. That's ultimatelywhat we want to address here.
(35:25):
I'm going to very quickly justgo through the easiest scenario
that I would recommend, andyou're going to shoot holes in
it or tell me whether it will orwill not work in your situation.
Okay. You are a PC user.
Therefore, I would plug myAndroid phone into that PC and
use whatever tool Microsoftgives me, which I believe is
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their Microsoft images area. Andyou plug it in and it says, Hey,
there's an external camera ordrive that's got photos, can I
import them? And you say importthem and they all come back
Audrey (35:57):
covered? Like I yeah, you're speaking my language.
Step one,
Jamie (36:01):
so. So let's now eliminate that and say that your
question is, how do I get an offthe Android onto the iPhone?
Because it's not on the Androidanymore? It's on the Microsoft
computer. Step one. Yes. Now,how do I get it from my
Microsoft computer?
Audrey (36:18):
Yeah, how do I how do I put it in my phone?
Jamie (36:22):
So the other could the next question comes this
Microsoft computer, using theMicrosoft images area is now
your master copy of all yourphotos and videos. So are you
going to be pulling off of youriPhone and putting them in there
to our ultimate goal is one biglibrary of everything in one
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place. You know, is that notyour goal?
Audrey (36:48):
It is but now I'm like thinking coke. Okay, so we know
that these apples.
Jamie (36:55):
Everybody, I want you to hear that. I'm thinking I've got
her thinking ultimately, as atrainer,
Audrey (37:02):
have these really funny, you know,
Jamie (37:05):
port, lightning ports, lightning, or it's called
lightning. I don't have all theterminology. That's okay. That's
called a lightning port. Yeah.
Audrey (37:12):
But it's, you know, so now I'm like, Okay, do I even
have a connector for that sothat I can like, remove them?
Jamie (37:20):
Do you charge? Do you charge your iPhone? You plug it
in and charge it? Yeah. Where'sthat cable? Yeah, got it right
here. plugged into a brick likethis at the end of it. Um,
Audrey (37:31):
well, right now it's plugged into my battery. This
giant battery backup for my PC.
Jamie (37:38):
Right. But you can unplug this USBC from that, right?
Yeah, you can plug that intoyour PC.
Audrey (37:44):
Yeah, well, that work.
It's apples to oranges. USB isUSB, but it's Apple stuff going
into well.
Jamie (37:53):
So this is. Yeah. Yeah.
So So Apple and Microsoft workthe same way when it comes to
cameras. Okay, so let me justsay this real quick.
Audrey (38:04):
This is so confusing.
Oh, no, that's USBC.
Jamie (38:07):
That's USB C to lightning. Does your laptop have
USB C on it?
Audrey (38:13):
Um, no, but I think my No.
Jamie (38:16):
Okay, so then we're, again, formatting issue where
it's like, I have USB on mylaptop, but I have a USBC cable.
You should be able to get acable like this that has USB on
the other end that can plug intoyour laptop. You can get them
anywhere. I'll see. I'll have
Audrey (38:32):
one of those in my truck. Actually, yeah,
Jamie (38:34):
I'll send you one. Okay, no, I've
Audrey (38:36):
got one. I've got one.
Right. But yeah,
Jamie (38:39):
okay. So,
Audrey (38:41):
you know, you've stopped with this crap.
Jamie (38:45):
It's so complicated. I quit. Right? I don't understand
that. I didn't explain thatscenario earlier at all. It's so
complicated. I'm done. Okay, soback to the main point that I
don't care if it's an Applelaptop, or a Windows laptop.
Both of them have the mechanismwhere if you plug in anything
that's got a camera on it, theMicrosoft images or the Apple
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photos is going to say, oh, acamera, digital camera, and
external storage device withimages on it. How would you like
me to handle this? Got it. Sojust like you plug your Android
into your Windows machine, andit says, Hey, there's photos
here. Do you want me to put themin the Microsoft images area?
You plug in your Apple iPhone,guess what the Microsoft images
(39:28):
thing is gonna say, hey, there'sa camera with photos and
storage. Well, how do you wantme to handle this? Right? Right
but, but but but, but alwaysthere's but the complication is
if your iPhone is optimizing theimages and putting the full
resolution on the cloud andoptimizing the local ones on the
phone to save storage, you maynot be able to just simply
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import them.
Audrey (39:51):
And is that what we covered before about low res?
Jamie (39:54):
That's the low res low res Well, no photos we talked
about messages Message, the lowquality image setting was in
messages. That's what we'retalking about. Oh, okay, it's
different, is I'll pull this upand show this to you make sure
you know what we're talkingabout here. Okay, so I'm on my
iPhone again, I'm going to gointo the settings application.
(40:17):
At the very top, I'm gonna gointo where it says Apple,
iCloud, all that stuff. I'mgonna go into the iCloud area of
this, I'm going to go into thephotos area of this. And right
here it says, optimize theiPhone storage or keep download
and keep originals,
Audrey (40:31):
trying to I'm trying to compare my settings to yours
because I'm like, do Iunderstand this optimized iPhone
storage is checked,
Jamie (40:39):
okay. So for you and your situation, if you have a big
enough hard drive, and you couldkeep the originals on the phone,
then you would always know thatyou can plug the phone into the
PC and just import and deleteoff the phone. And you've you've
put it into your master libraryon the PC.
Audrey (40:57):
Okay, so hear me out, make sure I'm thinking straight.
I physically plug into thisAndroid, get the photos on my
desktop, then I physically pluginto my iPhone and get a copy of
the photos to my iPhone. They'regoing to be optimized on my
iPhone, but they are going toremain whole on my PC. Is that
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correct?
Jamie (41:21):
Close. Okay, but you're you're already going in the
opposite flow than what I'mtalking about?
Audrey (41:27):
Of course, because the oranges are opposite.
Jamie (41:31):
No, you're just you're ahead. You're ahead of me. Okay,
you've got your end goal inmind. And I'm trying to give you
a full picture. All right. Myquestion to you. So now you see
where you can say optimized ornot optimized? That's all I
wanted you to see in thissituation. Okay, got it. Got it.
(41:51):
The question that I asked youis, are you now going to take
the photos and videos on youriPhone and move them onto the
PC? So they ever in your masterlibrary?
Audrey (42:03):
Are we talking like automatically that that's what I
want to have happened? There's,
Jamie (42:08):
there's no way to automatically do that. Because
you've already said I don't wantto use a cloud. I want to plug
in I want to manually import. Sowhen you were on your Android,
Audrey (42:18):
is it too late to say that might be changing my mind
about the cloud?
Jamie (42:24):
I warned you two or three episodes ago that I was going to
be a good influence. You werelike, are you going to make me
and I said no, I'm not going tomake you I'm going to educate
you until you know enough tomake a good decision for
yourself. Oh, no, I'm fickle.
Well, but this is let's addressthis is learning. This is the
(42:44):
progression. This is if youdon't know what you don't know,
how can you make a gooddecision? If you don't know
something? How can you make agood decision? If you don't know
what you need to know, meaningyou don't know what you don't
know. I know I personally knowwhat you don't know.
Audrey (43:02):
And now I know.
Jamie (43:06):
Like, I know that you don't know this. And I also know
you've made decisions withoutcertain reback.
Audrey (43:11):
Right, so three backups.
One of the three is the cloud.
So now I'm like okay, well, Ihave to change my mind about all
this.
Jamie (43:20):
Two backups, one master copy, two backups and one cloud
sync. It's it's a lot. It's alot more. Right. So ultimately,
you're trying to figure out aflow. But again, we've taken the
android phone out of it becausebecause you've already put
everything on the Android gotpulled down onto the laptop if
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you want to now have thediscussion how do I get from the
laptop to the iPhone? We can gostraight to that
Audrey (43:44):
your question is am I going to then put my photos and
such on to the laptop from theiPhone?
Jamie (43:52):
In my opinion, let's go back to some of the foundation
in my opinion. Everybody shouldhave full resolution version
somewhere in their home in casethere is an earthquake and the
Internet goes away and if youriPhone is optimized for photos
and videos, the only fullresolution versions you have or
an iCloud
Audrey (44:13):
Okay, right. Yeah,
Jamie (44:15):
and that's why I showed you right oh, that's I told you
this maybe this is two episodes.
This is complicated. Okay. So onyour iPhone, you could say don't
optimize, keep full keep fullresolution versions on my phone
and put full resolution versionsin the cloud. Okay, and
therefore I can plug my phoneinto my PC and just import Okay,
and even say import to the PCand delete from the phone to
(44:39):
save my phone space. The Deletefrom the phone the deletion will
sync to the iCloud and you'llsave iCloud space to
Audrey (44:47):
automatically Yeah.
Jamie (44:49):
If you import into the your PC from your iPhone and
tell it to delete upon import,it will delete it from the
phone's iCloud Photo Library.
Therefore, deleting it from theiCloud version two
Audrey (45:00):
Yikes, you got to be careful. You got to know what
you carry. Oh my gosh, okay.
Okay.
Jamie (45:07):
So for your situation, I personally, if I was going to
use a PC and an iPhone, Iwouldn't optimize the photos and
videos on my iPhone.
Audrey (45:16):
But aren't full resolution copies go into iCloud
Jamie (45:21):
they are. But in this scenario, if you have optimized
on your phone and fullresolution in the cloud, and the
earthquake comes and theInternet goes away, you are
separate from your fullresolution version,
Audrey (45:31):
I think I'm following this train of thought. So what I
need to do is, log into iCloudon my PC and download to my
computer.
Jamie (45:41):
That's another option.
That's one, you have to you haveto you have two options. One is
to keep full resolution on yourphone and then just plug it in
and import like you used to fromyour Android. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Okay. Right. Your second optionwould be yes, go to icloud.com
and download out of the cloud.
(46:02):
But then you've also got todownload and then put where they
belong, and then go and delete.
And, you know, it's a lot ofsteps. Now, in the same sense to
get your photos that are on yourPC. Now, onto your iPhone, you
have one of the options is to goto icloud.com and just push them
up into the library and they'llsink back down to
Audrey (46:22):
your phone. Yeah, that's what I need to do.
Jamie (46:25):
And that might be the easiest and the quickest.
Audrey (46:27):
It's definitely one of them. One of the things that I
need to do, because like I said,when I'm just I'm sorting
through this, I'm on my couch.
And this is funny, because, youknow, looking over my husband,
and he's like, Oh, you got anApple ID? And I'm like, why?
Yes, I do.
Jamie (46:43):
And I know what it does.
Audrey (46:45):
Jamie has made me smart.
You know, so it's just like,it's kind of funny these
conversations now. But thereality is, is I still have to
figure out how to combine andmake my master copy master
library, or that I understand myflow so that I know where my
master copies are. And I knowwhere my backup copies
Jamie (47:10):
are, right? And what's on the iPhone, is neither you could
drop your iPhone into theriverlea
Audrey (47:17):
the least reliable space,
Jamie (47:19):
you drop your iPhone into the
Audrey (47:21):
river that goes with us every
Jamie (47:23):
right. And that's why having the iCloud Photo Library
turned on and having fullresolution in the cloud is
great, right? Because you canalways buy a new phone, turn it
back on and get everything back.
And you've recovered from thatdisaster scenario. Yeah,
Audrey (47:37):
okay. Okay, I'm gonna try. I'm gonna get myself dialed
in before the next one. I'mgonna be like, Jamie, my data, I
know where it is.
Jamie (47:49):
So quick question. Are they quick? Nothing. I told you
nothing. Nothing in thisconversation? Is a quick answer.
Because there's just layers ofcomplexity and decisions to be
made and things to consider. Areyou going to try to keep like,
kind of like, oh, I want myfavorite pictures on my phone.
(48:11):
So I can like show them to myfriends when I'm out. And about
course,
Audrey (48:14):
right? Favorites option, right? And we all love
Jamie (48:17):
but you put a little heart on it. That becomes a
favorite. It shows up in yourfavorite album. Yes. Right. Are
you then going to import? You'regoing to have them on the PC
too, though. Right. So you'rethere in your master library,
but they're also on your phone?
Audrey (48:31):
I think so. Yeah.
Because, you know, I like to,you know, make creative things
with photos. And you know,
Jamie (48:38):
and the phone the phone, the phone does memories now and
it makes slideshows for youbased on your favorite memories
and some really cool things youprobably don't even know about
yet. On the iPhone photos area.
Audrey (48:47):
I was exploring. I saw some of that looks pretty cool.
Jamie (48:51):
So how, how are you? How are you in your master library
on your PC? How are you going tokeep things separated on? I
don't know. You already know theyou already know the question.
I'm thinking about this already,aren't you files, it's just
separate files, right? How am Ikeeping everything that's
archived versus my activelibrary that I want to have on
(49:13):
my phone all the time. And Iknow that the act of library on
my phone is in the masterlibrary and active on my phone.
Audrey (49:22):
It's like a brain twister.
Jamie (49:25):
A little it's a little challenging to guide me through.
We're going to talk about itnext time because we're almost
out of time I am going to goahead and turn the screw on you.
Okay, in the Apple world with myMacBook Pro, my iCloud Drive and
my iPhone iCloud Photo Library.
I have all of my photos on allof my devices
Audrey (49:49):
in there already favorited aren't they their
favorite? Oh my Lord.
Jamie (49:54):
And if I if I cared to clean it out and delete
duplicates, or delete multipleLike I took six copies to get
the one good one I could, I'veprobably got 5000 memes. I've
just pulled off a Facebookbecause I thought they were
funny or pertinent, right? Imean, I've got 150 gigs of
photos and videos in the cloud150 of gigs of photos and videos
(50:16):
on my laptop because they'reboth not optimized. And then my
phone and my iPad have optimizedversions of those libraries. So
they're only about 30 gigs,because they're only
representing my 150 Gig library.
And I don't have to do any ofthe work you're doing. Ah, okay.
I don't mean to solve thewounds.
Audrey (50:36):
It is a little bit. It's a little salty. It's in there
too, I think because thisburden,
Jamie (50:41):
but and I'm not doing it because I'm against Android, or
I'm against Microsoft. But thisis the advantage the apple
universe when you when you jointhe whole universe, when your
apples to apples. Yeah,
Audrey (50:54):
I hear it. Touching at a time, though,
Jamie (50:59):
and I am happy. I'm more than happy to spend this time
with you and talk about what itis and why it's complicated. And
what are the little tweakypoints? And if you wanted to do
it this way, how to do I know, Ido know how to do it. I just
don't know why anybody would?
Gotcha. Did I say that out loud?
I'm
Audrey (51:18):
so sorry. It was kind of
Jamie (51:25):
but it comes back to what we just talked about is that you
don't know what you don't know,you don't know, what you're up
against at certain times of thisjourney of this process. Right?
I need a good phone, I want theright features, I want something
that's going to work and not becomplicated. Right? And
(51:47):
unfortunately, Money solves theproblem money at it. And we can
like make it easier for you.
Audrey (51:52):
Sometimes.
Jamie (51:54):
You know, but this is the crux of it. This is the number
one switcher issue. Right? Andit took us five episodes of like
kind of, you know, fiddlingaround and talking about not
answering different questions orwhatever. The iPhone is the
(52:16):
number one digital camera on theplanet more photos are taken
with iPhones than any othercamera. In the last five years.
Nobody's nobody touches them.
More photos and videos are takenwith iPhones and any other
digital cameras barely exist.
And people don't buy Canondigital cameras anymore. They
just don't exist. You know,they're out there. They exist.
scuze me but nobody, you know,your average person is smiling
(52:38):
when all your photographyprofessionals are buying them.
And it's because Apple's madethis work. Right. And as I said,
about halfway through thisconversation, it already took me
20 minutes just to explain theapples to apples side fit. Yeah.
And now another 20 minutes, wrapyour brain around with another
(52:59):
20 minutes. And we've talkedapples to oranges. And we're
only halfway through that. Yeah.
Right. Really, really, because Imean, I've given you and I'm
gonna say this for now, I'vegiven you just enough
information to be verydangerous. If you walk away from
this conversation ago, I knowenough, I'm going to start
implementing you'll probablyscrew it up. I hate to say it
like that.
Audrey (53:19):
Well, you know, I'm an implementer.
Jamie (53:21):
I know you're an implementer. But you're here.
But again, it's not personal.
It's everybody. It's anybody.
Yes, yes. It's people that liketech, you like tech, you want to
play with it. Nobody wants tospend this money and not do it.
Not use it not go for it. Yeah,that's right. Yeah, but but but
one of the things I hope we'veproven in this episode or this
(53:42):
conversation, is that it iscomplicated enough. That if you
tried to do it by yourself,you're gonna, you're gonna cause
damage, you're gonna make itworse. If you don't get some
education around it, you're notmaking good decisions. Right?
Yeah. And you'll have to undoit, or do it a second, third,
(54:04):
fourth time or, you know,there's there's just layers of
that. And that is what makesswitching hard. I mean, bottom
line, that's why switching ishard, right, is that we think we
know or we can at least into itand figure it out. But we do
need help. We need somewhere toturn and you hear me kind of
harass Audrey about like she'spart of my company and she has
not watched any of my trainingvideos
Audrey (54:26):
needed to yet.
Jamie (54:29):
We've we've had at least two things today that you didn't
know that are in my first fourhours of training. If you were
to do my iPhone and iPad, allthe basics and my iPhone, iPad,
navigating apps class, rightwhen you were in settings, and
you're like I don't see messagesand I have to say look for the
left pointing blue arrow at thetop left because you're inside
(54:51):
of general and you need to goback up a level to settings.
Yeah, you
Audrey (54:55):
got that on that one.
But now you said I can't golooking
Jamie (54:59):
for You can, what I'd love is if you were to just go
take that one first two hourclass, and then come back and
report back to us as much as youfigured out already. Did you
learn enough in that class toreally make it worth your time?
Yeah. Okay. And if you'd bewilling to in the next before,
you know, next next episode ortwo, just go watch that two hour
(55:20):
class, even you can do in 20minute chunks, half hour chunks,
watch it over a week or two orwhatever time you have, but
watch this the all the Basicsclass and come back and tell me
did you learn worthwhile stuff?
Or, you know, was it like, Okay,I'm already I'm already past
that. Give me some feedback.
Audrey (55:35):
Okay, I will happy to Okay. I know I'll learn stuff.
And then I'll be like, Oh, no,no, that's not what he was
talking about. Yeah. Anydifference between this
operating system and operating?
Jamie (55:49):
It might be a versioning issue. It's always a versioning
issue. Any last questions for methis week, just to clarify what
we did talk about.
Audrey (55:57):
I think if I even try to open that can of worms, it's
gonna get shut down. So I'mgonna reserve my question.
Jamie (56:03):
Okay, when you've got a list and we'll pick this back
up, and we'll go deeper intocertain aspects of this topic
next time around.
Audrey (56:09):
Yeah, sounds great.
Jamie (56:11):
Okay, um, Jamie, come visit us. royalwise.com Audrey
is always thank you for beingsuch a good sport and really
taking us through all of thisstuff. Because really, it's not
easy, and, but it's fun. Okay,visit royalwise.com Go take some
classes the Royalwise owls areaon demand web based learning
(56:31):
solution, and we will see you inthe next episode of switching
from Android to Apple. Thanks.
Bye. Hey, do you know why theiPhone was wearing glasses?
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