September 16, 2025 • 19 mins
At some point in your career, you will be asked how you’ve used AI.
Most candidates will talk about optimizing resumes or practicing interview questions, but what if your answer could be more memorable?
In this episode, I share a deeply personal story about saying goodbye to my beloved cat, Amy Farrah Meowler, and how I turned to ChatGPT for guidance during that difficult time. What I learned goes far beyond grief. It demonstrates how authentic personal experiences can showcase your problem-solving skills and set you apart in today’s competitive job market.
Whether you’re searching for a new role, pursuing a promotion, or looking to clarify your career direction, you’ll discover how to reframe unique experiences with technology into compelling interview responses that highlight creativity, resilience, and leadership.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Why authentic personal stories often make the strongest professional interview answers
- How my experience with ChatGPT during a pet’s end-of-life decision highlighted critical problem-solving skills
- The importance of understanding when and how to share personal experiences in a professional context
- How to use personal AI experiences to demonstrate your ability to think strategically and process information under pressure
- Why memorable interviews often come from moments of genuine authenticity
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If you’re a mid-career professional feeling stuck, undervalued, or uncertain about how to stand out in interviews, this episode will help you think differently about how you showcase your skills and stories.
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John Neral (00:00):
A couple of weeks ago, my husband and I said
goodbye to our cat.
Now, look, she just wasn't anykind of cat.
She was Amy Farrah Meowler,named after our love of the Big
Bang Theory, and I referred toher as my CFO, chief Feline
(00:21):
Officer.
If you work from home, like Ido, having a pet is that extra
companion you have during theday and, admittedly, over the
last couple of weeks our heartshave been broken, but we know we
did the right thing.
She had an inoperable lesion inher jaw and when she couldn't
(00:42):
feed herself anymore, it wastime for us to say goodbye.
So why is this relevant to amid-career podcast?
It's actually quite simple.
I'm going to share with you whyI turned to chat GPT and how,
if I was interviewing for a jobright now, this is how I would
(01:03):
structure that interview answer.
Let's get started.
Hello, my friends, this is theMid-Career GPS Podcast and I'm
your host, John Neral.
I help mid-career professionalslike you find a career they
(01:26):
love, or love the one they have,using my proven four-step
formula.
We hear so much about using AIin our work and in our lives and
how it can help us optimize ourresume and our LinkedIn profile
and help us practice forinterviews, but there comes a
point in time where anyorganization is going to want to
(01:47):
know how are you using it andwhat's the example you're going
to share with them.
That is going to make youperhaps even more memorable.
So let me take you back a coupleof weeks.
A few weeks ago, we knew it wasgetting time to say goodbye to
(02:08):
our cat.
We had consulted with the veton several occasions and we were
given a timeframe of aboutthree to six weeks of palliative
care that we were providing forher at home.
I was away for the weekend at aprofessional bowling tournament
and I was having conversationswith Richard as I was driving to
(02:33):
the tournament and he said tome I think she's getting worse.
I said, okay, what does thatlook like?
And he started giving me someexamples and we talked about how
I was noticing some of that aswell and I said, look, maybe we
should schedule an appointmentwith the vet.
Not entirely sure if it's time,but maybe we should schedule an
(02:57):
appointment with the vet.
So he kindly hopped online.
This was a Saturday and he wasable to schedule an appointment
for the following Friday.
So when I had some time and Igot back in my hotel room, I
opened up my laptop and I wentto chat GPT.
(03:17):
Now, for disclaimer, I do havethe paid version and I upgraded
to the paid version and I do pay$20 a month because there were
some features within that paidversion I wanted to try and
experiment and work with, andone of the things I have been
learning as I've been trying toenhance my skill set with AI is
(03:43):
that it's all about the promptand how things start off.
So I'm going to read for youthe prompt and what I want you
to notice is that this prompt issomewhat extensive.
So here's what I wrote.
This one is difficult for meand I need your help.
(04:04):
We have a 15-year-old cat withan inoperable lesion in her jaw
that is spreading.
Over the past year, she hasgone from 22 pounds to 13 pounds
.
She can only eat soft food,like delectables, and has a very
hard time eating cheese oranything that she used to love,
(04:25):
like popcorn.
She continues to be sweet,loving and wants to be close,
but has also noticed herretreating to the basement and
lying in her favorite chair.
I just don't know when is theright time to euthanize her or
when she will.
Let us know it's time and she'sready to go over the now.
(04:49):
Here was the next part I reallystruggled with.
Additionally, I have a vacationplanned in eight days that I
(05:12):
would have done differently if Icould go back and do it over
again.
So, for example, one of thethings that I normally put in a
chat GPT prompt, I'll say,acting as a.
So, acting as an expertveterinarian, acting as a
veterinarian who specializes insenior cats OK, something to
(05:34):
help frame or tell the AI how Iwant it to be its perspective.
Now, I normally do this and youwill hear in the response that
it's going to give me thatperspective in a few moments.
The vacation piece was hard.
We had planned this.
We're back from vacation andthe plan was Richard was going
(05:59):
to go away and I was going tostay home with the cat and we
were traveling with friends andthings like that down to the
beach and I thought, well, I'lljust stay home with the cat
because it's gonna be too muchfor the pet sitter to take care
of.
So, understandably, I washaving this kind of guilt about
should I, you know, do we endthe cat's life so I can go on
(06:22):
vacation, or where are we atwith everything.
It was really weighing heavilyon my heart, which I'm sure if
you're a pet owner you get right.
So here's what Chad Chepitisaid, and admittedly this first
sentence freaked me out.
John, I can hear how heavy thisfeels for you and I'm sorry
(06:42):
you're facing this.
Okay, I understand that this isan artificial intelligence.
This is a machine.
Okay, I'm not looking for it tobe my therapist.
I'm not looking for it to be mybest friend.
I need information.
So I was a little perplexed athow it came out that at first.
(07:03):
But here's the good stuffMaking end of life decisions for
a beloved pet is one of thehardest parts of sharing life
with them.
I will give you somecompassionate guidance from the
perspective of a veterinarianwho has walked many families
through this Okay Signs.
It may be time.
(07:24):
Cats often tell us in subtleways when their quality of life
is slipping.
Some indicators includedifficulty eating or drinking to
the point of weight loss, orconstant struggle, retreating or
isolating more often thanengaging in their normal
routines.
Signs of pain or distress,drooling, pawing at the mouth,
(07:46):
difficulty grooming, vocalizing,restless pacing, declining
enjoyment of favorite activities, play, snuggles, following you
around.
Hygiene decline unable to groom, coat becoming unkempt.
One tool many vets recommend isthe quality of life scale,
sometimes called the HHHHHMMscale for hurt, hunger,
(08:11):
hydration, hygiene, happiness,mobility, more good days than
bad.
Scoring each from zero to 10can help bring clarity.
Here's what was interestingabout this.
Now my husband is aninformation professional.
He is a third generationlibrarian.
We talk about cross-referencing, chat, gpt and making sure
(08:35):
we're getting reliableinformation and things like that
.
What struck me about this partof the initial response was that
there were things that talkedabout in the signs of pain or
distress that I hadn'tconsidered.
I didn't understand thatrestless pacing was a sign of
distress in cats, and once I sawthat and started seeing her
(08:57):
doing that more once I got home,I was like oh, and then there
was the vocalizing.
I would go to pet her and shewould meh.
I was like okay, we saw thedrooling, we saw the pawing at
the mouth and we started seeingthat happen more frequently.
So, as I'm away, I'm askingRichard these questions Are you
(09:17):
seeing this?
And we had seen her start toretreat to the basement, which
was very dark, and she was justkind of lying in her chair, all
right.
And then here was the partabout about, she'll let you know
.
Sometimes cats make it clear bycompletely refusing food,
withdrawing or showingunmanageable pain.
(09:40):
Oftentimes they don't give aclear sign.
You may need to make the lovingdecision before suffering
escalates.
Choosing euthanasia proactivelyis not selfish.
It's an act of kindness toprevent further decline.
Your vacation it's veryunderstandable.
You're conflicted.
(10:00):
Here are some ways to frame it.
If she's still eating, even iflimited, seems content, sitting
near you and isn't in obviousconstant pain, she may still
have some quality of life.
If her condition is progressingquickly, continued weight loss,
struggling daily with food,isolating more, it may be more
(10:21):
compassionate to let her gobefore you leave.
What often weighs heaviest isthe fear of her declining
suddenly when you're gone.
Way as heaviest is the fear ofher declining suddenly when
you're gone.
If that would cause you guiltor regret, you might lean
towards saying goodbye beforeyour trip.
And then it gave me this whatyou can do Talk with your vet
(10:41):
soon.
They can help you assess herpain, offer palliative support
like pain meds or appetitestimulants and help you decide.
Two, use the quality of lifescale daily to track her comfort
more objectively.
And three, give yourself grace.
There is no perfect time, onlythe best decision you can make
with love and information.
The most important thing isthat you are clearly devoted to
(11:05):
her, whether you let her gobefore your trip or wait a
little longer, while monitoringclosely.
Either choice can be loving.
What matters is that she leavesthis world feeling safe, cared
for and cherished.
And then it offered to create aprintable quality of life
checklist.
So I took all of that and, nojoke, I must have read this at
(11:29):
least 10 times, going throughthis and thinking about things.
But what happened was that Ihad left on a Friday, I got home
on a Sunday and that Monday shetook a pretty severe turn, so
much so to the point that notonly was she refusing food when
(11:52):
we tried to feed her, it justfell out of her mouth.
And we looked at each other andwe said we know we have this
vet appointment on Friday, butit makes no sense to have her
starve until then.
And so we talked about it andagreed, and I made the decision
to call the vet on Tuesdaymorning, which was September 2nd
(12:15):
, and the ironic part was hernine-year gotcha anniversary was
September 3rd.
So I took a lot of things fromthis whole experience, and
here's what I learned.
One it gave me some insightinto a situation that I hadn't
(12:35):
considered.
Two, this was a tool that wewould not have had access to
nine years ago, when we lost ourprevious cat.
And three, what did I learnfrom this experience that is
applicable into this job marketand how I would talk about using
(12:59):
ChatGPT if I were on a jobinterview?
Here's what I want to offer youand what I'd like for you to
consider.
Oftentimes, when we go intointerviews, we may feel like we
have to present everything froma professional experience result
background.
(13:19):
Here's what I did.
And oftentimes, when hiringmanagers and organizations are
trying to assess fit, they wantto know who you are as a person.
Sharing a personal story thatis understandably appropriate
about you, using a tool such asChatGPT, can be extremely
(13:43):
impactful in terms of how youuse this.
Now it is your job and yourresponsibility as the candidate
(14:04):
excuse me to consider thecontext of the question and
whether or not that personalexperience is relevant to share.
So, for example, if you wereasked tell me about a time at
work when you used artificialintelligence to help you be more
efficient, you wouldn't usethis example.
To help you be more efficient,you wouldn't use this example.
But if you're told, if you'reasked rather, tell me about your
(14:26):
familiarity with using ChatGPTor AI.
How have you used it recently?
By all means, that is anopportunity for you to share a
story like this, to bepersonable, to be relatable, to
show how you think and processinformation that is given to you
and, lastly, be memorable in avery authentic and genuine way
(14:53):
by sharing an experience.
And when you finish thatresponse, if I were interviewing
and I were sharing thisparticular story to then share
that response and say is that away you've ever considered using
ChatGPT or have you ever usedChatGPT in that way?
(15:13):
There's a lot of ways you couldtake that dialogue from using
that example to show how youthink and how you process.
And so, in a job market rightnow where companies are taking
longer to hire, they're lookingfor that ideal fit.
(15:36):
Over the last couple of weeks,what have you heard on this
podcast?
So if you've not listened toany of these, I invite you to go
back.
So we're talking about lastweek's episode with Gina Riley
in talking about her experienceas a hiring manager and a
recruiter.
And when you're qualified isn'tenough for you to ultimately
(16:01):
help you get that job the weekbefore, you heard from a former
client of mine, chris Bond, whoshared his experiences in this
job market and applying for over125 positions and then
ultimately getting two joboffers, and the episode before
(16:27):
that, which would have beenepisode 311, which was an FAQ
episode that I shared some ofthe most common or frequently
asked questions I get asked as acareer coach by people looking
in this job market.
So, thinking about all of thisthis is when I I talk about.
This is the story you tell,this is the story you share with
people to let them in on whoyou are, what you do, how you
think, how you feel, how youprocess and, yes, it is a
(16:52):
comfort level.
Some people are not comfortablesharing personal things in
interviews and if you're not,don don't.
But if you have an opportunityto share something you believe
is going to help demonstrate whyyou are a great fit for the
position that showcases how youthink, problem solve and act,
(17:14):
maybe a personal example mayjust be the thing to help you.
Now, if you're looking foradditional help or you're
looking for additional supportaround your leadership and
career journey, I invite you tocheck out my membership, the
Mid-Career GPS MembershipCommunity.
You can find that atjohnnerrellcom forward slash
(17:35):
membership johnnerrellcomforward slash membership we have
office hour calls ask meanything calls, monthly
masterclasses and opportunitiesto post questions for support
and information around yourleadership and career transition
.
So until next time, my friends,do me a favor.
(17:55):
If you have pets at home, givethem an extra head scratch for
me, give them a hug, hold yourfur babies really tight and
remember you will build yourmid-career GPS one mile or one
step at a time, and how you showup matters.
Make it a great rest of yourday.
Thank you for listening to theMid-Career GPS Podcast.
(18:19):
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(18:41):
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Until then, take care andremember how we show up matters.
Thank you.
A couple of weeks ago, my husband and I said
goodbye to our cat.
Now, look, she just wasn't anykind of cat.
She was Amy Farrah Meowler,named after our love of the Big
Bang Theory, and I referred toher as my CFO, chief Feline
(00:21):
Officer.
If you work from home, like Ido, having a pet is that extra
companion you have during theday and, admittedly, over the
last couple of weeks our heartshave been broken, but we know we
did the right thing.
She had an inoperable lesion inher jaw and when she couldn't
(00:42):
feed herself anymore, it wastime for us to say goodbye.
So why is this relevant to amid-career podcast?
It's actually quite simple.
I'm going to share with you whyI turned to chat GPT and how,
if I was interviewing for a jobright now, this is how I would
(01:03):
structure that interview answer.
Let's get started.
Hello, my friends, this is theMid-Career GPS Podcast and I'm
your host, John Neral.
I help mid-career professionalslike you find a career they
(01:26):
love, or love the one they have,using my proven four-step
formula.
We hear so much about using AIin our work and in our lives and
how it can help us optimize ourresume and our LinkedIn profile
and help us practice forinterviews, but there comes a
point in time where anyorganization is going to want to
(01:47):
know how are you using it andwhat's the example you're going
to share with them.
That is going to make youperhaps even more memorable.
So let me take you back a coupleof weeks.
A few weeks ago, we knew it wasgetting time to say goodbye to
(02:08):
our cat.
We had consulted with the veton several occasions and we were
given a timeframe of aboutthree to six weeks of palliative
care that we were providing forher at home.
I was away for the weekend at aprofessional bowling tournament
and I was having conversationswith Richard as I was driving to
(02:33):
the tournament and he said tome I think she's getting worse.
I said, okay, what does thatlook like?
And he started giving me someexamples and we talked about how
I was noticing some of that aswell and I said, look, maybe we
should schedule an appointmentwith the vet.
Not entirely sure if it's time,but maybe we should schedule an
(02:57):
appointment with the vet.
So he kindly hopped online.
This was a Saturday and he wasable to schedule an appointment
for the following Friday.
So when I had some time and Igot back in my hotel room, I
opened up my laptop and I wentto chat GPT.
(03:17):
Now, for disclaimer, I do havethe paid version and I upgraded
to the paid version and I do pay$20 a month because there were
some features within that paidversion I wanted to try and
experiment and work with, andone of the things I have been
learning as I've been trying toenhance my skill set with AI is
(03:43):
that it's all about the promptand how things start off.
So I'm going to read for youthe prompt and what I want you
to notice is that this prompt issomewhat extensive.
So here's what I wrote.
This one is difficult for meand I need your help.
(04:04):
We have a 15-year-old cat withan inoperable lesion in her jaw
that is spreading.
Over the past year, she hasgone from 22 pounds to 13 pounds
.
She can only eat soft food,like delectables, and has a very
hard time eating cheese oranything that she used to love,
(04:25):
like popcorn.
She continues to be sweet,loving and wants to be close,
but has also noticed herretreating to the basement and
lying in her favorite chair.
I just don't know when is theright time to euthanize her or
when she will.
Let us know it's time and she'sready to go over the now.
(04:49):
Here was the next part I reallystruggled with.
Additionally, I have a vacationplanned in eight days that I
(05:12):
would have done differently if Icould go back and do it over
again.
So, for example, one of thethings that I normally put in a
chat GPT prompt, I'll say,acting as a.
So, acting as an expertveterinarian, acting as a
veterinarian who specializes insenior cats OK, something to
(05:34):
help frame or tell the AI how Iwant it to be its perspective.
Now, I normally do this and youwill hear in the response that
it's going to give me thatperspective in a few moments.
The vacation piece was hard.
We had planned this.
We're back from vacation andthe plan was Richard was going
(05:59):
to go away and I was going tostay home with the cat and we
were traveling with friends andthings like that down to the
beach and I thought, well, I'lljust stay home with the cat
because it's gonna be too muchfor the pet sitter to take care
of.
So, understandably, I washaving this kind of guilt about
should I, you know, do we endthe cat's life so I can go on
(06:22):
vacation, or where are we atwith everything.
It was really weighing heavilyon my heart, which I'm sure if
you're a pet owner you get right.
So here's what Chad Chepitisaid, and admittedly this first
sentence freaked me out.
John, I can hear how heavy thisfeels for you and I'm sorry
(06:42):
you're facing this.
Okay, I understand that this isan artificial intelligence.
This is a machine.
Okay, I'm not looking for it tobe my therapist.
I'm not looking for it to be mybest friend.
I need information.
So I was a little perplexed athow it came out that at first.
(07:03):
But here's the good stuffMaking end of life decisions for
a beloved pet is one of thehardest parts of sharing life
with them.
I will give you somecompassionate guidance from the
perspective of a veterinarianwho has walked many families
through this Okay Signs.
It may be time.
(07:24):
Cats often tell us in subtleways when their quality of life
is slipping.
Some indicators includedifficulty eating or drinking to
the point of weight loss, orconstant struggle, retreating or
isolating more often thanengaging in their normal
routines.
Signs of pain or distress,drooling, pawing at the mouth,
(07:46):
difficulty grooming, vocalizing,restless pacing, declining
enjoyment of favorite activities, play, snuggles, following you
around.
Hygiene decline unable to groom, coat becoming unkempt.
One tool many vets recommend isthe quality of life scale,
sometimes called the HHHHHMMscale for hurt, hunger,
(08:11):
hydration, hygiene, happiness,mobility, more good days than
bad.
Scoring each from zero to 10can help bring clarity.
Here's what was interestingabout this.
Now my husband is aninformation professional.
He is a third generationlibrarian.
We talk about cross-referencing, chat, gpt and making sure
(08:35):
we're getting reliableinformation and things like that
.
What struck me about this partof the initial response was that
there were things that talkedabout in the signs of pain or
distress that I hadn'tconsidered.
I didn't understand thatrestless pacing was a sign of
distress in cats, and once I sawthat and started seeing her
(08:57):
doing that more once I got home,I was like oh, and then there
was the vocalizing.
I would go to pet her and shewould meh.
I was like okay, we saw thedrooling, we saw the pawing at
the mouth and we started seeingthat happen more frequently.
So, as I'm away, I'm askingRichard these questions Are you
(09:17):
seeing this?
And we had seen her start toretreat to the basement, which
was very dark, and she was justkind of lying in her chair, all
right.
And then here was the partabout about, she'll let you know
.
Sometimes cats make it clear bycompletely refusing food,
withdrawing or showingunmanageable pain.
(09:40):
Oftentimes they don't give aclear sign.
You may need to make the lovingdecision before suffering
escalates.
Choosing euthanasia proactivelyis not selfish.
It's an act of kindness toprevent further decline.
Your vacation it's veryunderstandable.
You're conflicted.
(10:00):
Here are some ways to frame it.
If she's still eating, even iflimited, seems content, sitting
near you and isn't in obviousconstant pain, she may still
have some quality of life.
If her condition is progressingquickly, continued weight loss,
struggling daily with food,isolating more, it may be more
(10:21):
compassionate to let her gobefore you leave.
What often weighs heaviest isthe fear of her declining
suddenly when you're gone.
Way as heaviest is the fear ofher declining suddenly when
you're gone.
If that would cause you guiltor regret, you might lean
towards saying goodbye beforeyour trip.
And then it gave me this whatyou can do Talk with your vet
(10:41):
soon.
They can help you assess herpain, offer palliative support
like pain meds or appetitestimulants and help you decide.
Two, use the quality of lifescale daily to track her comfort
more objectively.
And three, give yourself grace.
There is no perfect time, onlythe best decision you can make
with love and information.
The most important thing isthat you are clearly devoted to
(11:05):
her, whether you let her gobefore your trip or wait a
little longer, while monitoringclosely.
Either choice can be loving.
What matters is that she leavesthis world feeling safe, cared
for and cherished.
And then it offered to create aprintable quality of life
checklist.
So I took all of that and, nojoke, I must have read this at
(11:29):
least 10 times, going throughthis and thinking about things.
But what happened was that Ihad left on a Friday, I got home
on a Sunday and that Monday shetook a pretty severe turn, so
much so to the point that notonly was she refusing food when
(11:52):
we tried to feed her, it justfell out of her mouth.
And we looked at each other andwe said we know we have this
vet appointment on Friday, butit makes no sense to have her
starve until then.
And so we talked about it andagreed, and I made the decision
to call the vet on Tuesdaymorning, which was September 2nd
(12:15):
, and the ironic part was hernine-year gotcha anniversary was
September 3rd.
So I took a lot of things fromthis whole experience, and
here's what I learned.
One it gave me some insightinto a situation that I hadn't
(12:35):
considered.
Two, this was a tool that wewould not have had access to
nine years ago, when we lost ourprevious cat.
And three, what did I learnfrom this experience that is
applicable into this job marketand how I would talk about using
(12:59):
ChatGPT if I were on a jobinterview?
Here's what I want to offer youand what I'd like for you to
consider.
Oftentimes, when we go intointerviews, we may feel like we
have to present everything froma professional experience result
background.
(13:19):
Here's what I did.
And oftentimes, when hiringmanagers and organizations are
trying to assess fit, they wantto know who you are as a person.
Sharing a personal story thatis understandably appropriate
about you, using a tool such asChatGPT, can be extremely
(13:43):
impactful in terms of how youuse this.
Now it is your job and yourresponsibility as the candidate
(14:04):
excuse me to consider thecontext of the question and
whether or not that personalexperience is relevant to share.
So, for example, if you wereasked tell me about a time at
work when you used artificialintelligence to help you be more
efficient, you wouldn't usethis example.
To help you be more efficient,you wouldn't use this example.
But if you're told, if you'reasked rather, tell me about your
(14:26):
familiarity with using ChatGPTor AI.
How have you used it recently?
By all means, that is anopportunity for you to share a
story like this, to bepersonable, to be relatable, to
show how you think and processinformation that is given to you
and, lastly, be memorable in avery authentic and genuine way
(14:53):
by sharing an experience.
And when you finish thatresponse, if I were interviewing
and I were sharing thisparticular story to then share
that response and say is that away you've ever considered using
ChatGPT or have you ever usedChatGPT in that way?
(15:13):
There's a lot of ways you couldtake that dialogue from using
that example to show how youthink and how you process.
And so, in a job market rightnow where companies are taking
longer to hire, they're lookingfor that ideal fit.
(15:36):
Over the last couple of weeks,what have you heard on this
podcast?
So if you've not listened toany of these, I invite you to go
back.
So we're talking about lastweek's episode with Gina Riley
in talking about her experienceas a hiring manager and a
recruiter.
And when you're qualified isn'tenough for you to ultimately
(16:01):
help you get that job the weekbefore, you heard from a former
client of mine, chris Bond, whoshared his experiences in this
job market and applying for over125 positions and then
ultimately getting two joboffers, and the episode before
(16:27):
that, which would have beenepisode 311, which was an FAQ
episode that I shared some ofthe most common or frequently
asked questions I get asked as acareer coach by people looking
in this job market.
So, thinking about all of thisthis is when I I talk about.
This is the story you tell,this is the story you share with
people to let them in on whoyou are, what you do, how you
think, how you feel, how youprocess and, yes, it is a
(16:52):
comfort level.
Some people are not comfortablesharing personal things in
interviews and if you're not,don don't.
But if you have an opportunityto share something you believe
is going to help demonstrate whyyou are a great fit for the
position that showcases how youthink, problem solve and act,
(17:14):
maybe a personal example mayjust be the thing to help you.
Now, if you're looking foradditional help or you're
looking for additional supportaround your leadership and
career journey, I invite you tocheck out my membership, the
Mid-Career GPS MembershipCommunity.
You can find that atjohnnerrellcom forward slash
(17:35):
membership johnnerrellcomforward slash membership we have
office hour calls ask meanything calls, monthly
masterclasses and opportunitiesto post questions for support
and information around yourleadership and career transition
.
So until next time, my friends,do me a favor.
(17:55):
If you have pets at home, givethem an extra head scratch for
me, give them a hug, hold yourfur babies really tight and
remember you will build yourmid-career GPS one mile or one
step at a time, and how you showup matters.
Make it a great rest of yourday.
Thank you for listening to theMid-Career GPS Podcast.
(18:19):
Make sure to follow on yourfavorite listening platform and,
if you have a moment, I'd loveto hear your comments on Apple
Podcasts.
Visit https://johnneral.
com for more information abouthow I can help you build your
mid-career GPS or how I can helpyou and your organization with
your next workshop or publicspeaking event.
Don't forget to connect with meon LinkedIn and follow me on
social at workshop or publicspeaking event.
Don't forget to connect with meon LinkedIn and follow me on
(18:41):
social at John Neral Coaching.
I look forward to being backwith you next week.
Until then, take care andremember how we show up matters.
Thank you.
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