September 19, 2024 • 36 mins
Ever wondered how the power of music can change lives? Join us as we explore Joey's Song, a charity making a significant impact in the epilepsy community through music. Our guests, Chloe Homan and Crystal Ketterhanger, share their incredible journeys and contributions to Madison, Wisconsin. Chloe reveals her transition from corporate America to creating a thriving business with 600,000 followers focused on curly hair care. Together, we uncover the essential role of community support, influencers, and local leaders in the success of Joey's Song and its hallmark event, the Freezing Man festival.
Imagine a space where technology meets spirituality, and human intuition is celebrated as a superpower. We delve into this fascinating intersection, discussing how modern advancements like Web3 are resonating with our innate capabilities. The conversation emphasizes the importance of building and nurturing communities during these transformative times, drawing parallels to the co-creative spirit that fuels Joey's Song benefit concerts. Through personal stories and reflections, we underline the collective growth and mutual learning that are crucial in our rapidly evolving world.
Get ready for some behind-the-scenes insights as we discuss the exciting and meticulous journey of organizing a week-long concert series featuring iconic bands like The Bangles, Belly, and Portugal. The Man. From the camaraderie among artists and fans to the impactful educational aspects of Joey's Song, we capture the essence of what makes these events special. We also share unforgettable live concert moments that showcase the magic of spontaneous performances and audience interactions. To wrap up, we encourage you to support Joey's Song by engaging with our content and joining us at future events to continue making a difference in the fight against epilepsy.
Visit www.joeyssong.org to learn more about Joey's Song and the work we do and get details on our next set of shows. Also be sure to follow us on all popular social media platforms with our handle @joeyssong
Joey's Song is a federally registered 501(c)3 charity that raises money to fund research into treatments and cures for epilepsy. Joey's Song is 100% volunteer with no paid staff, so we are able to convert more dollars into life saving research.
Our Joey's Song family of artists include Rock N Roll Hall of Famers, Grammy and Emmy winners and Top 40 hitmakers.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey everybody, welcome to the Joey Song Podcast
.
I'm your host, mike Gamal.
For those of you that are newto Joey Song, we're a 501c3
charity that raises money tofund research into treatments
and cures for epilepsy.
We also direct funds to supportpatient services and community
programs as well.
Our fundraising vehicle ismusic.
Every year, we hold a series ofconcerts that feature Rock and
(00:30):
Roll Hall of Famers, grammywinners and Top 40 hit makers.
These amazing artists all cometo Madison, wisconsin, each
January for a festival that wecall Freezing man.
You should know that every oneof the artists that plays at our
event donates their time andtalent.
None of our performers take apenny to join us.
We have no paid staff.
We are a 100% volunteerorganization.
(00:52):
The next Freezing man isscheduled to take place January
8th through the 11th 2025, withsix amazing shows scheduled over
four days.
To find out more about Joey'sSong, you can find us at our
website, joey'songorg, or followus on social media, where all
of our handles are at Joey'sSong.
(01:19):
Hey everybody, welcome to theJoey's Song podcast.
So, on this episode, it'sreally interesting as Joey Song
continues to grow.
It's not just our artists, it'snot just the people that come
to the show.
It's the greater communityaround the Madison area that
helps us grow, whether it's oursponsors or community leaders or
influencers.
And today we're going to talkto a couple ladies who are I
(01:42):
guess I don't know if thecategory is influencers or not,
but I'm old, so that's what Iget to call them.
So Chloe Holman and CrystalKellerhanger are both here and
they're going to talk abouttheir businesses.
They're going to talk a littlebit about Joey Song and the
Madison community.
It's a really interestingconversation with a couple
ladies who have made their ownway in the business community
(02:02):
and have created really, reallyinteresting brands and really,
really interesting communities.
So stick around for myconversation with Chloe and
Crystal.
Hey everybody, it's Mike Amol.
Welcome to the Joey SongPodcast.
(02:23):
We are continuing in our seriesof talking to the folks in the
Joey Song ecosystem theinfluencers, the sponsors, the
artists, just about everybodythat has anything to do with
Joey Song.
I'm really pleased today tohave Chloe and Crystal with me.
They have vowed we will spendmost of the time talking about
fashion until they saw how I wasdressed and realized you may as
(02:43):
well talk to the dogs aboutstaying off the furniture,
because I have nothing to add tothis with my sweatshirt on, but
Chloe and Crystal welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Thank you for having us.
We're excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yes thank you, Mike Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So this is the first time.
So we are talking toinfluencers in the Madison area
and, through our mutual friendJoanna Burrish, is how we are
here talking today and as we'vegrown Joey's song to let me sit
down as I say the six concertsover four days.
So yeah, yeah, well, that's oneway to say I've got a few.
(03:15):
I've got a few other adjectivesfor it exciting is not one of
them um, we realize that wereally need to reach out to the
community, and so Joanna, who ison our board and has been an
ardent supporter, when we'retalking about who else can we
talk to and get into theecosystem, literally.
When I was doing her podcast acouple of weeks ago, I don't
even think we had finished andshe was pulling out her phone
(03:36):
texting you guys, we've got toget Chloe.
Crystal yeah, that's her.
So it may even be at the end ofthe last podcast, I don't know.
But before we go into that,let's talk a little bit about
each of you and what you do fora living or for fun or for
anything, what you want to tellfolks, chloe since you're on my
left first here, why don't youstart?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Perfect, happy to so.
Hi, I'm Chloe Homan.
I have a couple businesses, sowe'll start with the one that
came first, which goes with theinfluencer side, which is frizz
and frills.
I created that back in 2018.
So I've been doing that forwhat?
Six years now, and so thatwhole side is all about curls.
(04:20):
I teach people how to lovetheir curls, how to style them,
what products to use.
We do some reviews over there,and then a little bit of
lifestyle content as well, andso we've built a community of I
think, at this point, rightaround 600,000 across.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Unbelievable.
Wow.
I've got colics, but I don'tthink that would Wow 600,000.
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, it's crazy, right, there's a lot of curlies
in this world.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
If somebody had told you back when you were starting
it in 2018, I mean, we all dreamof success but, I can't imagine
that
Speaker 2 (04:54):
600,000 was in your uh no, because when I started it
I was working, you know, incorporate America.
I was in business to business,sales, and what I was missing
was the creative side.
I I hadn't been in thatcreative side pretty much, uh,
for work, and since, likecollege, when I studied graphic
design and advertising, yeah,and so I was like, you know, I
(05:17):
just really want to, you know,get that part of me filled
absolutely.
And so I was like, well, youknow, blogging was a thing at
that time especially, and so Iwas like I'll start a blog and
I'll you know, do the Instagramthing and I'll just do that on
the side as like a little hobbyproject and to feed your
creative, exactly, yeah.
Yeah.
So I was like, okay, I'll dothat.
And then it wasn't about.
Like three months later I waslike you know what?
(05:39):
I think I could do this as abusiness.
And so I I started to pedal tothe metal.
I was working 80 hour weeks,you know, working my full-time
job doing that.
Seeing if I could make thatwork, less than a year later,
quit my full-time job wentfull-time with it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That was going to be my next question is when did,
when were you able to make theleap from?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, so about a year , so that was yeah, right about
a year after I had you know justkind of like dipped my toe into
it, so that would have beenfall of 2019 that I left
corporate.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Just as COVID's about to hit.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Just as COVID, yes, which was terrifying, oh man,
yeah, it was already terrifyingin the fall and then six months
later, not knowing whether youknow my contracts were going to.
You know, stay up or stayhonored, right and luckily, what
ended up happening with COVIDis a lot of online shopping.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
And therefore a lot of brands then wanted to hire
influencers to help get the wordout about their you know
products and brands, and so itactually ended up catapulting my
business.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Just as Amazon's business was catapulted.
You know many businesses didduring that time.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And a lot of us are still completely addicted to not
leaving the house if we wantsomething Absolutely and having
it delivered the next day, likewell, this is pretty convenient
and easy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I didn't know this Exactly, so so, yeah, so that's
really where uh, uh, Fris andFrills started.
And then in 2021, in Novemberof 21, is when we launched
Curlfriend Collective, whichreally was based off of Frizz
and Frills and that community.
And so I'm wearing, if you guyscan see, you know, I'm wearing
(07:19):
one of our products.
It's only an audio podcast,it's okay, it's okay, I'll
forgive you, it's only an audiopodcast.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's okay.
It's okay, I'll forgive you.
See, if we had done that,they'd have to look at my hair.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Okay, so we need to get you a Curlfront Collective
headband.
Yes, See I knew there was areason I was doing this.
My husband's already trying toget us to start men's athletic
headbands or something I knowRight.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So maybe a future project.
I'll tell you a story aboutthat in a second Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
So with the curls, I knew from my community on frizz
and frills that there was areally a missing product set
that was not only really goodfor the curls and not going to
cause damage, breakage, all ofthat, but also something that
was cute and was fashionable and, um, you know, really fit all
(08:10):
of those things marketed tocurls.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, so function and style Exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Function and style and quality.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Actually good quality products, and so I was like I
think we have something herethat my community needs, and so
we just started it out with twodifferent scrunchies and a scarf
, so three products in Novemberof 21.
And now we have probably 60plus SKUs and we're growing at
(08:40):
almost 100% rate.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We're doubling our yeah this year and we're just
about to hit our third yearanniversary.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Got some really exciting stuff coming this fall
and into next year.
So some things I can't speakabout.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But some very exciting things, and we're now
on our we're on our own websiteas well as on Amazon to as of
this year, and so we havephenomenal scrunchies, all made
from silk mulberry silk sothere's a difference between
silk and like satin.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'll pretend I understand.
It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So basically, silk is the material.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Satin is the weave.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, okay, I actually understand that.
Hey, perfect, yeah, look Okay,I actually understand that Yay
perfect.
Yeah, look at me.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So when people say silk satin, that means that it's
actually made from silk whichis a natural fiber and woven in
a satin weave, got it.
But a lot of people will thinkthat satin, just when it's
labeled as satin, means thatit's silk Silk.
But in reality there's satinpolyester.
That it's silk, but in realitythey're satin polyester.
And polyester is actually madefrom petroleum, aka plastic
(09:48):
which means it will never leaveour world.
So we wanted to make somethingthat was not only the quality
which has a lot of beneficialqualities in that fabric but
also is better for ourenvironment, sustainable right.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yes, it's sustainable yes.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So we chose.
That was what we wanted to godown the road with, and our
customers have been justabsolutely phenomenal.
We have a phenomenalrepurchasing rate.
We love serving the curlycommunity and, yeah, we're
excited to see what happens nextyear.
Well, you are the poster childfor take a leap and let me tell
you, constantly, living on theedge, it feels like it sounds
(10:26):
like you may have backed awayfrom the edge a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Sounds like things are pretty successful these days
.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Thank you so.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I want to tell you my male headband story because I
may have your first celebrityendorser.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay, tell me, get us in contact.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So, John Resnick from Goo Goo Dolls is playing our
benefit this year.
And John is known for his hair,and most women have the same
reaction that crystals have.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You know what I'm saying, Johnny.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And he and I were down at they were playing
Summerfest this year and he andI were talking and getting ready
for the thing and I had one ofthese in my hair.
For those at home, I'm wearingbasically a paper clip in my
hair.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's like one of those headbands.
That's like the zigzag that youhave in the 90s?
Yes, and it like combs throughthe front, which is when you
have this kind of a rat's nestis all you can do.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's perfect and so John and I were talking and we
were talking and all of a suddenhe stopped and he goes where
did you get that?
Because he says, when he's onstage, because his hair is kind
of similar to mine, it fallsdown into his face and all that.
So I just sent him the Amazonlink for the cheapo one I got
here.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But maybe John Resnick at Goo Goo Dolls can be
your first celebrity endorser.
Okay, this is now on the 2025trajectory.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
In January at the Joey Song Benefit.
I'll get you guys together andyou've got your celebrity
endorser.
Perfect Done, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Perfect Done.
Yes, my husband will be sohappy because he literally for
the last two months is like so amen's headband, what do we do?
He's got curls too.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
He's not wrong, I don't have curls, but I have
hair that gets in my face andjust something.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I see some texture in there.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
There is actually when it gets long, does it?
Yeah, I know, all right,crystal, you're up, tell us
about you and what you're doinghi, yeah, I'm crystal k.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Many know me as shamama because I'm the founder
of soul tech sanctum, which is a21st century spiritual
community.
When really I founded it a fewyears ago, after going down the
rabbit hole of AI, I reallystarted reading and studying
everything I could on AI and itreally put me through a dark
night of the soul because itchanged everything.
(12:34):
How so.
I mean, when you really look, Icall AI man-made gods with
superpowers.
You're not wrong, I'm not wrong.
It changes everything, and itchanges everything fast, yes and
so, and that was like digestingthat.
When you really take that in,it's a lot to.
It changes, it reprogramseverything within you, even to
(12:55):
understand where we're going,where we're at Right, and even
our relation to other beings.
I mean it just it goes wild.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Right, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So that was really challenging but I kind of came
out of it, finally realizingthat technology is natural, it's
really what we do with it andactually that technology is
actually an external reflection,especially where it's going
right now with Web3.
It's an external reflection ofthe superpowers we've always had
in our soul technologies,immortality, be know, you know,
(13:27):
be able to create your ownreality, like all these things.
It goes on and on.
So I realized, and then I alsostarted seeing that, like in all
the spiritual calendars andeven in all the oral traditions
and a lot of indigenoustraditions, they talk about this
time right now, that we are athere now and that it's an
evolutionary time.
It's a, it's a quantum leap forhumanity and the earth.
(13:51):
And I realized that in that, inthese evolutionary times, we
must come together in community.
We need community again.
We need our power tools likesacred medicines and crystals,
and we need 21st centuryspiritual skills.
And I call it the thrive or dietimes.
There's no more survival.
You're either thriving orthere's heaven and there's hell.
(14:12):
Now it's like the great divide.
You can see that in theinequality gap.
You can see it everywhere.
It's getting faster, worse andworse.
You can actually see theexponential rate that I was
talking about for a while.
With technology, with even chat, gpt, it's exponential.
(14:32):
It's not an airplane taking off, computer technology is not
doubling in speed anymore, it'sit's just going straight up and
it gets wild and disorienting.
And so, um, so, yeah, sobuilding a spiritual community,
community that's doing reallywell, um, and yeah, so that's
what I do.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So you provide what the, and forgive me if I use
weird terms because I'm not withit.
You provide, like, the tools tohelp people understand deal.
Yeah, I have no vocabulary.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, no, so we work.
So basically we provide a lotof gatherings, ceremonies, skill
building, access to sacredmedicines like Cambo.
So I serve medicine like cambo,which is a deeply cleansing and
rebalancing medicine.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So, um, yeah, like that okay, so you give people
different tools to use dependingon where they are in the
process.
If they're like my dad, who's88 and still can't answer his
cell phone probably needs evenmore help, right right and
really it's the community too.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
The way I see it too, it's the community too.
The way I see it too, it's thetime of co-creation.
It's a time of coming togetherand learning from each other.
So it's not really about, like,learning from me per se.
It's really about learning fromthe community, because we're
all waking up, all of oursuperpowers are coming online.
You know of intuition andwhatnot, and so and I really see
a lot of that actually inJoey's song with the co-creation
and the community, I feel likewhat was really palatable about
(15:57):
Joey's song was that it reallyfelt like a family.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Oh, yes, I could talk , yeah, the stories I could tell
you about the back conversationbetween the artists that's even
going on now for January.
You know people that knew ofeach other but didn't know each
other are now deep friends andthey're working to collaborate
on it.
Yeah, that is.
That is absolutely true, whichI think is what I'm so
(16:22):
passionate about Joey's song,cause I can like feel that and
that is my big passion ingeneral is co-creation and
community, and it is sobeautiful.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And then what you are all feeling, we all feel in the
the audience, like it is sopalatable and it's so fun, like
the whole concert.
It's not just the music, it'sthe vibe, it.
You can tell that everybody ishaving a blast, both the fans
that know all the artists, andthe artists themselves, who get
to work with their favoriteartists like it's just so cool
(16:51):
and there's nothing like it no,that I.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I won't do any false modesty.
No, there's nothing.
I will say it wasn't anythingplanned I I'll tell the quick
origin story of how what joeysung is developed.
So we originally started out byselling cds.
You gotta put your mind back to2010, back when people which is
, of course, right around thetime when the world decided they
were never going to pay foranother piece of music again
(17:16):
unless they paid 004 cents perstream.
So the CDs didn't go very well,but we would hold a benefit
concert, a CD release party, andthose went fine and, like the
rest of the music business, Ifigured out that you make more
money now unless you're peoplewe refer to by one name taylor,
beyonce, bruce, those people youmake more money off of the live
(17:38):
performance than you do offrecorded music.
So fast forward a little bit.
Butch.
Butch big and his band playedthe know-it-all boyfriends,
played a show at the majesticand he had done a some press the
beginning of the week and,being the good pt barnum
advocate that he is, he said Ithink it was duck moe or rob
thomas, one of the one of thecolumn.
And, being the good PT Barnumadvocate that he is, he said I
think was duck mo or Rob Thomas,one of the one of the
(17:59):
columnists.
He said you know, you neverknow who's gonna show up at a
know-it-all boyfriend show.
So of course my phone's goingcrazy because think of all the
people that butch has workedwith, whether it's Dave Grohl or
Billy Corgan or Billy JoeArmstrong from Green Day or you
know, and they're all going.
So who's show?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
And I had no idea he had done this.
Everybody's on the edge oftheir seat, and I was too, and
so I.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I hadn't had a chance because it was the week of the
show and I was super busyafterwards.
So after the show, it wasSeptember and we were sitting
outside at Jenna's plug in forChristie's place, outside
sitting at Jenna's afterwardshaving a beer, and I having a
beer, and I told him the story.
I said man, you wasted half aday for me by me having to
answer the phone.
We both kind of laughed andsaid you know, it's the salesman
in me.
And we both stood sat there fora good 30 seconds because
(18:42):
neither one of us is very brightand we were tired and had a few
beers in this.
We both kind of looked at eachother and said that's a really
good idea.
So we decided so.
The next year we invited somefriends some of his friends to
come and play and now since thenit has just snowballed into
this because now we have friendsof friends.
Like you know, chriscollingwood was there in 2019
(19:05):
and he's the one that recruitedk hanley and k recruited gail
and tanya and they're the onesthat got us to the bangles and
all this other stuff.
So it truly is.
Now I'm doing much lessrecruiting of artists than I
used to do, because my artistsdo it for me, because they're
like and I understand they'veall got to come and see it
before they're going to do it.
Just to make sure I've made thejoke before that.
(19:26):
It's not.
You know, butch playing awashboard and me playing a comb
and tissue paper, right?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
That it's a.
Thing.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But once they do, it's like I like I've got people
you know, they all want to come.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, it's good beauty and community right
that's where it all started wascommunity that's right and
that's why the fun that, yeah,you're mentioning comes through,
and that's right, very clearand I love how you are really
leaning into that side of it now, like even from last year's
concert or two years ago to thislast year's concert.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You know, now you have the Battle of the Bands and
you're really into it, not justbeing a concert, but really
being an experience and fun foreverybody.
You could tell the band werehaving a blast during that
battle well, I'll tell you thestory.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, you guys are great here.
I was like you're interviewingme.
That started after the one twoyears ago was we're walking out
after the show and I was withTanya Donnelly and Gail
Greenwood and Kay Hanley, whowere such an injection of energy
into the whole thing that yearthat they came in.
That took the thing into a nextlevel.
And as they're walking out Ithink it was Gail, because
(20:29):
usually Gail's the one that saysthis kind of stuff she's.
We got to put together theknow-it-all girlfriends and all
four of us just kind of stoppedand looked at each other and
went yes, we do and that wasabsolutely the highlight of last
year that battle of the bandsand of course as always, the
girls took it to the next levelwith the signs Falling asleep on
(20:50):
the monitors when theknow-it-all boyfriends were
playing Like this is so boring.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And they were commenting how like we
Midwesterners are too nice.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And we were just so nice.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And we were, like you know, during the battle.
It was pretty funny yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, all of this and maybe this gets to the genesis
of your business all this isbecause of what the community
has done.
I'm just in the middle of itand trying to keep all the
plates spinning.
For those of you old enough toremember the Ed Sullivan show,
right, all the plates, all theplates spinning.
But it's all these good ideasthat come in and it's about
executing them.
So it's it is.
(21:26):
It's a ton of fun.
It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And we're so excited to see the growth that's
happened this year.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I'm sure it's a lot to plan I can only imagine Any
teasers you can give us, yes,Well, so we are doing five kind
of call them regular concertsthe week leading up to it.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Wow, so many of the bands the Bangles, belly,
portugal, the man, silver Sun,pickups, laura Jane, the Know it
All Boyfriends are all going todo full concerts the week
leading up to it.
So between the Sylvia and theMajestic, we're going to do?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Oh yes, I did see that on the lineup.
The Majestic is going to bepart of it.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It's part of it too.
So we're going to have thesebig bands in these small venues
and then everybody's going tostick around for Saturday and
still do the big hoopla thing, Ilike to pretend like it's oh my
God, what a burden.
But actually it's not going tobe.
It's not like I'm doing sixversions of that Saturday night.
It's going to be more of the.
(22:27):
You guys go out, do your set,which I think will be great,
because you know I'm lookingaround here to make sure
nobody's listening.
But obviously all the artistsare going to be in town all week
, right and so, and we staggeredthem.
So the shows at the Majesticare going to be matinee shows, 5
to 7.30.
And then the shows at theSylvia at Night are going to be
8, so everybody can go toeverything.
(22:48):
Well, they're all going to beat each other's shows.
So I think it's going to turninto about six mini Joey song
things.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That's so exciting, that is fun when I was talking
to some of them about travel.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, you're not playing until friday, so you
don't have to come in untilthursday.
Like yeah, but what if we misssomething?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
there's a huge thing of fomo going through all the
community aspects.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Right, there is people wanting to be a part of
the entire thing it isabsolutely true.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Let's talk a little bit about charity and giving
back, though, because there's amillion charities, all of them
worthwhile.
I have said, you know, when Ifirst started joey song and was
recruiting sponsors, I would atfirst kind of get offended not
offended, but kind of grumpywhen somebody would say no.
And then I realized thesebusinesses get hit five ways
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till sunday and we're no betterthan Gigi's Playhouse or Special
Olympics or Alzheimer'sAssociation.
You guys, I'm sure, get hit alot too, especially with your
position as influencers andcommunity leaders as well.
What is it when you're lookingfor a cause to get behind?
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What are some of the thingsother than just the cause?
Because, like I said, we're nobetter than the American Cancer
Society or, like I said, gigi'sPlayhouse or Gio's Garden.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
What resonates with you guys when you're looking at
something to get behind Well,not to hit on it again but I
think community is a big pieceof it, and also that there's a
local piece, and so I do feelthat Joeyey song hits that in
multiple, multiple areas yeahand and there's also an
educational piece that youprovide at these shows that I
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personally didn't know muchabout epilepsy before the the
one I attended two, two yearsago now um, when that one a year
and a half ago right, yeah, butum, you know, I I just thought,
you know, as most peopleprobably think, that it's like
oh okay, I know it's somethingwith you have a seizure.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You fall down on the floor.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know that there there's something that you know
triggers it.
Yeah, and that's pretty whatmuch all I knew and I loved that
there was so much educationadded to the show.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, in a way that didn't take away from this
Correct.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So smooth and interesting, exactly,
interesting, exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, um, I really appreciate, appreciate how much
you all give.
Like you know, sometimes youget invited to things and it's
like you know we'll feed you acouple two appetizers.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know Two appetizers.
Yeah, right, you know $200.
And here's a drink chicken.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, he'susually worth it Right Now.
Where's the money?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I mean, you guys are giving so much it's like wait
who's giving to?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
who here Like really?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I mean, the value is insane, and then, on top of that
, the fact that it goes towardssomething is just incredible.
You just feel so good abouteverything.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Well, so your point about community?
Now I'm going to put a pitch infor the artist.
I don't know if you guys knowthat or not, but to the folks at
home, none of those artiststake a penny for the performance
.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Wow, I didn't know that.
That is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
So I don't know, wow, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And they all come in four or five days ahead of time,
so I don't know what, but therecord.
But it's not two beers and aham sandwich, which is what he
gets from me.
So that's the other thing tokeep in mind.
And now that I've extended it,I mean these folks are going to
be coming in on Tuesday orWednesday and staying till
Sunday and none of them aretaking a penny for it.
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So that gets back to that senseof community that you're
talking about, and they're stilltrying to recruit other people.
Hey come to Madison when it'ssuper cold and not get paid
anything it's gonna be amazingyeah it's gonna be so great,
you're gonna sing everybodyelse's songs, but for some
reason for some reason it workswell, that also is probably an
ode to you, mike as well as muchas you probably don't want to
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toot your own horn I'll toot,toot it for you seriously it's
incredible what you created well, thank you, it's all
indivisible package right allthe stuff.
I've got great artists now thatyou know so many of them that we
talked about Kay and Butch thatare in, I mean in all in, kind
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of all in, and that helps too.
And it does help when a charityis focused on kids.
That's always kind of an extrasoft spot for us.
So it does all kind of worktogether.
All right, we've touched on ita little bit, but talk about so.
You were at the one two yearsago.
Talk about your favorite Joeysong memory, or is there
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something in that?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
evening.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
It doesn't even have to be something that happened on
stage, but something in it thatresonates.
I'm going to ask you next,crystal maybe I go first.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I was there last year , yeah, I mean there were a lot
of moments, like the sing-alongswith Corey Chisel are always
just like epic everybody's justswaying and singing and hugging
and loving life, and then andsinging and hugging and all that
life, and then, honestly,charlie Barron's singing.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I know that was one of my favorite experiences too,
right.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Like.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Charlie.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Barron's singing, because you know we get them on
social media and stuff, but wedon't get them singing and then
they're always just hilarious,like they're just rolling.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
But see, that's the thing.
We can make fun of ourselves,if anybody else makes fun of us
yeah yeah, but since Charlie'sone of us, he can make fun of
Wisconsin and all that otherstuff.
He's one of us.
He's one of us.
He's just a kid from Fond duLac.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Well, and it's funny for me because I'm from
California- so I feel like Ilearn a lot about Midwesterners
through Charlie Barron Likeliterally.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I'm like, oh yeah, that's the way my husband talks
all the time I get it now.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's a Midwest thing, it is Like the drink fridge.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
We got one.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
We got a fridge for the garage.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
My husband, literally just filled it with drinks.
I was like what is this?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
This is for my batch cooking.
No, I did it, it's a total.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Midwest thing.
Just as much as you need acheese drawer, she's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
She's not wrong, she's not wrong at all.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So yes, I love Charlie Barron's and singing
along and just all the classicsthat come on where, like,
everybody just gets all riled upand honestly, seeing the super
fans in the audience you canjust tell like they are just
like so happy.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And that's kind of what I was going to say too,
with the interaction with theaudience, that's something you
don't always get with everysingle concert type you attend
to, so being able to getinvolved and there's always
something to interact, you'renot sitting right, you are very
much, so you're standing you'redancing, you're enjoying, you're
singing, singing along, whetherit's somebody that you know
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with or a new artist that youhaven't heard before.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, and I feel like I hadn't really realized it
until now that we're reflectingon it.
But it's a very big venue, butit feels so intimate.
And I just realized it's thecommunity, it's the family feel,
it's that interaction.
The Sylvie is a beautiful thing.
Yes, it is.
They have like it's thatinteraction.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
The Sylvie is a beautiful thing.
Yes, it is, they have doneeverything right at that place.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I think the other part of it that keeps you I
don't want to say guessing, butengaged is.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
You never know what's going to come next either what
song are they going to do or?
Who's going to walk out, or youknow when we go see any of our
favorite artists you know the 42songs that they're going to do,
or?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
you know, whatever it is, oh, he hasn't played born
to run, yet bruce has got toplay that or whatever it is with
this.
You don't know and to be honest, and I'll whisper it in the
microphone, sometimes the bandsdon't know what they're playing
next that's right.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Wasn't there a spinny thing last year?
We had to play what was fun.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
But that's a beautiful thing, it was so fun
and it creates more excitementwith on the stage and in crowd.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I'll tell you two quick stories, because I have no
musical talent whatsoever,really.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
This is actually surprising.
I am totally surprised.
You got the hair for it.
What's going on?
I'm just a poser.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I'm just a poser, you fit right in.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, that's it.
I can talk the talk.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That's all I can do, but I can't sing the words.
My son's got all the talent.
I don't have any of the talent.
Two moments that show howamazing these folks are.
Several years ago 2019, so thelast show we did at the
Barrymore and again, big news weactually rehearsed that year.
We had never done that beforethe band actually rehearsed.
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So we rehearsed the day before,been rehearsing all day and
everybody was kind of closing upand Alex Drossert, the guy that
plays keyboards for all theband, started playing the riff
from Drive the car song.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Who's?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Gonna Drive you Home.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know that one.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
And he says he has no musical talent and he started
playing the riff and everybodyjust kind of stopped for a
second, started unpacking theirgear.
Corey literally pulled up thelyrics on his phone.
They went through it one timeand said we should do that
tomorrow night.
What Ran through it one timewas not on the list.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's talent.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Then the other one was two years ago, the one that
you would have been at.
We had Dave Perner from SoulAsylum and they had done Take
the Skinheads Bowling at the endof the Soul Asylum set.
But when they were rehearsingit, Butch obviously got in his
head that we should do more.
Dave Lowery is in Cracker andCamper Van Beethoven those are
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both his bands and so the nightbefore Butch had maybe had one
too many whiskeys and wasrunning around going, we got to
do that song low by Cracker, hey, hey, hey.
Like being low that song.
Yes, that was Friday night.
The show was the next day.
They ran through it insoundcheck and killed it.
Wow, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
They and killed it.
Wow yeah, that's awesome.
So these, they've got to beloving that flexibility.
That's got to be so satisfyingfor them at that talent level
because they know they can pullit off, and for you to give them
that freedom.
And then we feel thatspontaneity too.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And how excited they are.
It's not like they did it athousand times already and this
is their thousandth concert, andthere's two elements to that.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
There's the this moment will never happen again
side of it right because likewhen they did take the skinheads
bowling, it was perner onvocals and chris collingwood
from phones, and wayne on guitarand butch on drums and freedy
and gail and tanya singing back.
I mean that that combination,even if dave perner sings, take
the skinheads bowling some othertime, it's not going to be that
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configuration right.
So it's that it's never goingto happen again.
And then it's the when they goout on the road they play the
same set every night, you know,and so I think it's a
combination of both of thosethings that hopefully the
audience feels, because, youknow, the artists are like
little kids.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
We definitely feel it , you know.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I agree yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Because the artists are like little kids.
We definitely feel it.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I agree Again, just serendipity and it's evolved.
But I think that is part ofwhat makes it fun.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And like nothing else .
That's the thing.
You can't find this anywhereelse.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I've never been to a fundraising event that is like
Joey's.
There is nothing like it.
Genuinely.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And there's a reason why you have such an incredible
turnout even a concert likeconcerts are like this either
like on both sides of it, you'regetting complete originality
and value, like fun, it's just.
The list goes on and on.
Thank you, agreed, it's a goodwork very pleased with where
it's going.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I'm really glad that you guys are on our side, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I'm excited to see where it's going too.
Yeah, I know we're excited forthis year.
Yeah, we'll see where it'sgoing how long that can hold up.
Oh, you got this.
Let's put that hair back in aponytail.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Well, once I get one of those new male scrunchies.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
See, we'll get you.
See, you do need a scrunchie.
I'm going to get, I'll tie itback, but that's putting it up.
Okay, I don't man, I don't manbun it.
If that's what you're asking,okay, okay, but you just like
we'll pull it back.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Pull it back because it gets in because I like my
food and, if it gets in, my yeah, yeah, it's a whole it's a
whole therapy session that I.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I can't afford your rates.
We do have microphones.
Yeah, yeah, I can't.
I'm so into that.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Chloe and Crystal.
Thank you so much for the chattoday.
Thanks for being there for usand thanks for being excited
about Joey's Song.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
And thank you for what you do.
Thank you for having us.
We're excited for this inJanuary.
Yeah, we are too All right,everybody.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's the end of this Joey's Song podcast.
Stick around, something new iscoming next week.
Thanks for joining us for theJoey Song Podcast.
Remember to visit our website,joysongorg.
Follow us on all our socialmedia handles, which are at Joey
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Song.
We'll see you guys at the show.
Oh geez, sorry about the recordscratch.
Wait a minute.
I forgot one thing.
If you want to help us spreadthe word about Joey's song in
our podcast, there's a fewthings you can do that are real
simple that will help us.
One of the things you can do isfollow the show wherever you
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get your podcast, give us afive-star review I mean, why
wouldn't you and write a review.
All of these things help ourpodcast and our cause get more
traction and seen throughout thecommunity.
And if you wanted to tell a fewfriends about Joey Song and the
podcast, that would be great aswell.
And, of course, you can visitjoeysongorg and follow us on
(35:56):
social media.
All of our handles are at JoeySong.
Okay, I think that's it.
We will see you guys at theshow.
Hey everybody, welcome to the Joey Song Podcast
.
I'm your host, mike Gamal.
For those of you that are newto Joey Song, we're a 501c3
charity that raises money tofund research into treatments
and cures for epilepsy.
We also direct funds to supportpatient services and community
programs as well.
Our fundraising vehicle ismusic.
Every year, we hold a series ofconcerts that feature Rock and
(00:30):
Roll Hall of Famers, grammywinners and Top 40 hit makers.
These amazing artists all cometo Madison, wisconsin, each
January for a festival that wecall Freezing man.
You should know that every oneof the artists that plays at our
event donates their time andtalent.
None of our performers take apenny to join us.
We have no paid staff.
We are a 100% volunteerorganization.
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The next Freezing man isscheduled to take place January
8th through the 11th 2025, withsix amazing shows scheduled over
four days.
To find out more about Joey'sSong, you can find us at our
website, joey'songorg, or followus on social media, where all
of our handles are at Joey'sSong.
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Hey everybody, welcome to theJoey's Song podcast.
So, on this episode, it'sreally interesting as Joey Song
continues to grow.
It's not just our artists, it'snot just the people that come
to the show.
It's the greater communityaround the Madison area that
helps us grow, whether it's oursponsors or community leaders or
influencers.
And today we're going to talkto a couple ladies who are I
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guess I don't know if thecategory is influencers or not,
but I'm old, so that's what Iget to call them.
So Chloe Holman and CrystalKellerhanger are both here and
they're going to talk abouttheir businesses.
They're going to talk a littlebit about Joey Song and the
Madison community.
It's a really interestingconversation with a couple
ladies who have made their ownway in the business community
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and have created really, reallyinteresting brands and really,
really interesting communities.
So stick around for myconversation with Chloe and
Crystal.
Hey everybody, it's Mike Amol.
Welcome to the Joey SongPodcast.
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We are continuing in our seriesof talking to the folks in the
Joey Song ecosystem theinfluencers, the sponsors, the
artists, just about everybodythat has anything to do with
Joey Song.
I'm really pleased today tohave Chloe and Crystal with me.
They have vowed we will spendmost of the time talking about
fashion until they saw how I wasdressed and realized you may as
(02:43):
well talk to the dogs aboutstaying off the furniture,
because I have nothing to add tothis with my sweatshirt on, but
Chloe and Crystal welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Thank you for having us.
We're excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yes thank you, Mike Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So this is the first time.
So we are talking toinfluencers in the Madison area
and, through our mutual friendJoanna Burrish, is how we are
here talking today and as we'vegrown Joey's song to let me sit
down as I say the six concertsover four days.
So yeah, yeah, well, that's oneway to say I've got a few.
(03:15):
I've got a few other adjectivesfor it exciting is not one of
them um, we realize that wereally need to reach out to the
community, and so Joanna, who ison our board and has been an
ardent supporter, when we'retalking about who else can we
talk to and get into theecosystem, literally.
When I was doing her podcast acouple of weeks ago, I don't
even think we had finished andshe was pulling out her phone
(03:36):
texting you guys, we've got toget Chloe.
Crystal yeah, that's her.
So it may even be at the end ofthe last podcast, I don't know.
But before we go into that,let's talk a little bit about
each of you and what you do fora living or for fun or for
anything, what you want to tellfolks, chloe since you're on my
left first here, why don't youstart?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Perfect, happy to so.
Hi, I'm Chloe Homan.
I have a couple businesses, sowe'll start with the one that
came first, which goes with theinfluencer side, which is frizz
and frills.
I created that back in 2018.
So I've been doing that forwhat?
Six years now, and so thatwhole side is all about curls.
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I teach people how to lovetheir curls, how to style them,
what products to use.
We do some reviews over there,and then a little bit of
lifestyle content as well, andso we've built a community of I
think, at this point, rightaround 600,000 across.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Unbelievable.
Wow.
I've got colics, but I don'tthink that would Wow 600,000.
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, it's crazy, right, there's a lot of curlies
in this world.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
If somebody had told you back when you were starting
it in 2018, I mean, we all dreamof success but, I can't imagine
that
Speaker 2 (04:54):
600,000 was in your uh no, because when I started it
I was working, you know, incorporate America.
I was in business to business,sales, and what I was missing
was the creative side.
I I hadn't been in thatcreative side pretty much, uh,
for work, and since, likecollege, when I studied graphic
design and advertising, yeah,and so I was like, you know, I
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just really want to, you know,get that part of me filled
absolutely.
And so I was like, well, youknow, blogging was a thing at
that time especially, and so Iwas like I'll start a blog and
I'll you know, do the Instagramthing and I'll just do that on
the side as like a little hobbyproject and to feed your
creative, exactly, yeah.
Yeah.
So I was like, okay, I'll dothat.
And then it wasn't about.
Like three months later I waslike you know what?
(05:39):
I think I could do this as abusiness.
And so I I started to pedal tothe metal.
I was working 80 hour weeks,you know, working my full-time
job doing that.
Seeing if I could make thatwork, less than a year later,
quit my full-time job wentfull-time with it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That was going to be my next question is when did,
when were you able to make theleap from?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, so about a year , so that was yeah, right about
a year after I had you know justkind of like dipped my toe into
it, so that would have beenfall of 2019 that I left
corporate.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Just as COVID's about to hit.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Just as COVID, yes, which was terrifying, oh man,
yeah, it was already terrifyingin the fall and then six months
later, not knowing whether youknow my contracts were going to.
You know, stay up or stayhonored, right and luckily, what
ended up happening with COVIDis a lot of online shopping.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
And therefore a lot of brands then wanted to hire
influencers to help get the wordout about their you know
products and brands, and so itactually ended up catapulting my
business.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Just as Amazon's business was catapulted.
You know many businesses didduring that time.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And a lot of us are still completely addicted to not
leaving the house if we wantsomething Absolutely and having
it delivered the next day, likewell, this is pretty convenient
and easy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I didn't know this Exactly, so so, yeah, so that's
really where uh, uh, Fris andFrills started.
And then in 2021, in Novemberof 21, is when we launched
Curlfriend Collective, whichreally was based off of Frizz
and Frills and that community.
And so I'm wearing, if you guyscan see, you know, I'm wearing
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one of our products.
It's only an audio podcast,it's okay, it's okay, I'll
forgive you, it's only an audiopodcast.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's okay.
It's okay, I'll forgive you.
See, if we had done that,they'd have to look at my hair.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Okay, so we need to get you a Curlfront Collective
headband.
Yes, See I knew there was areason I was doing this.
My husband's already trying toget us to start men's athletic
headbands or something I knowRight.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So maybe a future project.
I'll tell you a story aboutthat in a second Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
So with the curls, I knew from my community on frizz
and frills that there was areally a missing product set
that was not only really goodfor the curls and not going to
cause damage, breakage, all ofthat, but also something that
was cute and was fashionable and, um, you know, really fit all
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of those things marketed tocurls.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, so function and style Exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Function and style and quality.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Actually good quality products, and so I was like I
think we have something herethat my community needs, and so
we just started it out with twodifferent scrunchies and a scarf
, so three products in Novemberof 21.
And now we have probably 60plus SKUs and we're growing at
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almost 100% rate.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We're doubling our yeah this year and we're just
about to hit our third yearanniversary.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Got some really exciting stuff coming this fall
and into next year.
So some things I can't speakabout.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But some very exciting things, and we're now
on our we're on our own websiteas well as on Amazon to as of
this year, and so we havephenomenal scrunchies, all made
from silk mulberry silk sothere's a difference between
silk and like satin.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'll pretend I understand.
It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So basically, silk is the material.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Satin is the weave.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, okay, I actually understand that.
Hey, perfect, yeah, look Okay,I actually understand that Yay
perfect.
Yeah, look at me.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So when people say silk satin, that means that it's
actually made from silk whichis a natural fiber and woven in
a satin weave, got it.
But a lot of people will thinkthat satin, just when it's
labeled as satin, means thatit's silk Silk.
But in reality there's satinpolyester.
That it's silk, but in realitythey're satin polyester.
And polyester is actually madefrom petroleum, aka plastic
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which means it will never leaveour world.
So we wanted to make somethingthat was not only the quality
which has a lot of beneficialqualities in that fabric but
also is better for ourenvironment, sustainable right.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yes, it's sustainable yes.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So we chose.
That was what we wanted to godown the road with, and our
customers have been justabsolutely phenomenal.
We have a phenomenalrepurchasing rate.
We love serving the curlycommunity and, yeah, we're
excited to see what happens nextyear.
Well, you are the poster childfor take a leap and let me tell
you, constantly, living on theedge, it feels like it sounds
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like you may have backed awayfrom the edge a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Sounds like things are pretty successful these days
.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Thank you so.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I want to tell you my male headband story because I
may have your first celebrityendorser.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay, tell me, get us in contact.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So, John Resnick from Goo Goo Dolls is playing our
benefit this year.
And John is known for his hair,and most women have the same
reaction that crystals have.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You know what I'm saying, Johnny.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And he and I were down at they were playing
Summerfest this year and he andI were talking and getting ready
for the thing and I had one ofthese in my hair.
For those at home, I'm wearingbasically a paper clip in my
hair.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's like one of those headbands.
That's like the zigzag that youhave in the 90s?
Yes, and it like combs throughthe front, which is when you
have this kind of a rat's nestis all you can do.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's perfect and so John and I were talking and we
were talking and all of a suddenhe stopped and he goes where
did you get that?
Because he says, when he's onstage, because his hair is kind
of similar to mine, it fallsdown into his face and all that.
So I just sent him the Amazonlink for the cheapo one I got
here.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But maybe John Resnick at Goo Goo Dolls can be
your first celebrity endorser.
Okay, this is now on the 2025trajectory.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
In January at the Joey Song Benefit.
I'll get you guys together andyou've got your celebrity
endorser.
Perfect Done, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Perfect Done.
Yes, my husband will be sohappy because he literally for
the last two months is like so amen's headband, what do we do?
He's got curls too.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
He's not wrong, I don't have curls, but I have
hair that gets in my face andjust something.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I see some texture in there.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
There is actually when it gets long, does it?
Yeah, I know, all right,crystal, you're up, tell us
about you and what you're doinghi, yeah, I'm crystal k.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Many know me as shamama because I'm the founder
of soul tech sanctum, which is a21st century spiritual
community.
When really I founded it a fewyears ago, after going down the
rabbit hole of AI, I reallystarted reading and studying
everything I could on AI and itreally put me through a dark
night of the soul because itchanged everything.
(12:34):
How so.
I mean, when you really look, Icall AI man-made gods with
superpowers.
You're not wrong, I'm not wrong.
It changes everything, and itchanges everything fast, yes and
so, and that was like digestingthat.
When you really take that in,it's a lot to.
It changes, it reprogramseverything within you, even to
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understand where we're going,where we're at Right, and even
our relation to other beings.
I mean it just it goes wild.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Right, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So that was really challenging but I kind of came
out of it, finally realizingthat technology is natural, it's
really what we do with it andactually that technology is
actually an external reflection,especially where it's going
right now with Web3.
It's an external reflection ofthe superpowers we've always had
in our soul technologies,immortality, be know, you know,
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be able to create your ownreality, like all these things.
It goes on and on.
So I realized, and then I alsostarted seeing that, like in all
the spiritual calendars andeven in all the oral traditions
and a lot of indigenoustraditions, they talk about this
time right now, that we are athere now and that it's an
evolutionary time.
It's a, it's a quantum leap forhumanity and the earth.
(13:51):
And I realized that in that, inthese evolutionary times, we
must come together in community.
We need community again.
We need our power tools likesacred medicines and crystals,
and we need 21st centuryspiritual skills.
And I call it the thrive or dietimes.
There's no more survival.
You're either thriving orthere's heaven and there's hell.
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Now it's like the great divide.
You can see that in theinequality gap.
You can see it everywhere.
It's getting faster, worse andworse.
You can actually see theexponential rate that I was
talking about for a while.
With technology, with even chat, gpt, it's exponential.
(14:32):
It's not an airplane taking off, computer technology is not
doubling in speed anymore, it'sit's just going straight up and
it gets wild and disorienting.
And so, um, so, yeah, sobuilding a spiritual community,
community that's doing reallywell, um, and yeah, so that's
what I do.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So you provide what the, and forgive me if I use
weird terms because I'm not withit.
You provide, like, the tools tohelp people understand deal.
Yeah, I have no vocabulary.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, no, so we work.
So basically we provide a lotof gatherings, ceremonies, skill
building, access to sacredmedicines like Cambo.
So I serve medicine like cambo,which is a deeply cleansing and
rebalancing medicine.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So, um, yeah, like that okay, so you give people
different tools to use dependingon where they are in the
process.
If they're like my dad, who's88 and still can't answer his
cell phone probably needs evenmore help, right right and
really it's the community too.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
The way I see it too, it's the community too.
The way I see it too, it's thetime of co-creation.
It's a time of coming togetherand learning from each other.
So it's not really about, like,learning from me per se.
It's really about learning fromthe community, because we're
all waking up, all of oursuperpowers are coming online.
You know of intuition andwhatnot, and so and I really see
a lot of that actually inJoey's song with the co-creation
and the community, I feel likewhat was really palatable about
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Joey's song was that it reallyfelt like a family.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Oh, yes, I could talk , yeah, the stories I could tell
you about the back conversationbetween the artists that's even
going on now for January.
You know people that knew ofeach other but didn't know each
other are now deep friends andthey're working to collaborate
on it.
Yeah, that is.
That is absolutely true, whichI think is what I'm so
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passionate about Joey's song,cause I can like feel that and
that is my big passion ingeneral is co-creation and
community, and it is sobeautiful.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And then what you are all feeling, we all feel in the
the audience, like it is sopalatable and it's so fun, like
the whole concert.
It's not just the music, it'sthe vibe, it.
You can tell that everybody ishaving a blast, both the fans
that know all the artists, andthe artists themselves, who get
to work with their favoriteartists like it's just so cool
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and there's nothing like it no,that I.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I won't do any false modesty.
No, there's nothing.
I will say it wasn't anythingplanned I I'll tell the quick
origin story of how what joeysung is developed.
So we originally started out byselling cds.
You gotta put your mind back to2010, back when people which is
, of course, right around thetime when the world decided they
were never going to pay foranother piece of music again
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unless they paid 004 cents perstream.
So the CDs didn't go very well,but we would hold a benefit
concert, a CD release party, andthose went fine and, like the
rest of the music business, Ifigured out that you make more
money now unless you're peoplewe refer to by one name taylor,
beyonce, bruce, those people youmake more money off of the live
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performance than you do offrecorded music.
So fast forward a little bit.
Butch.
Butch big and his band playedthe know-it-all boyfriends,
played a show at the majesticand he had done a some press the
beginning of the week and,being the good pt barnum
advocate that he is, he said Ithink it was duck moe or rob
thomas, one of the one of thecolumn.
And, being the good PT Barnumadvocate that he is, he said I
think was duck mo or Rob Thomas,one of the one of the
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columnists.
He said you know, you neverknow who's gonna show up at a
know-it-all boyfriend show.
So of course my phone's goingcrazy because think of all the
people that butch has workedwith, whether it's Dave Grohl or
Billy Corgan or Billy JoeArmstrong from Green Day or you
know, and they're all going.
So who's show?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
And I had no idea he had done this.
Everybody's on the edge oftheir seat, and I was too, and
so I.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I hadn't had a chance because it was the week of the
show and I was super busyafterwards.
So after the show, it wasSeptember and we were sitting
outside at Jenna's plug in forChristie's place, outside
sitting at Jenna's afterwardshaving a beer, and I having a
beer, and I told him the story.
I said man, you wasted half aday for me by me having to
answer the phone.
We both kind of laughed andsaid you know, it's the salesman
in me.
And we both stood sat there fora good 30 seconds because
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neither one of us is very brightand we were tired and had a few
beers in this.
We both kind of looked at eachother and said that's a really
good idea.
So we decided so.
The next year we invited somefriends some of his friends to
come and play and now since thenit has just snowballed into
this because now we have friendsof friends.
Like you know, chriscollingwood was there in 2019
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and he's the one that recruitedk hanley and k recruited gail
and tanya and they're the onesthat got us to the bangles and
all this other stuff.
So it truly is.
Now I'm doing much lessrecruiting of artists than I
used to do, because my artistsdo it for me, because they're
like and I understand they'veall got to come and see it
before they're going to do it.
Just to make sure I've made thejoke before that.
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It's not.
You know, butch playing awashboard and me playing a comb
and tissue paper, right?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
That it's a.
Thing.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But once they do, it's like I like I've got people
you know, they all want to come.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, it's good beauty and community right
that's where it all started wascommunity that's right and
that's why the fun that, yeah,you're mentioning comes through,
and that's right, very clearand I love how you are really
leaning into that side of it now, like even from last year's
concert or two years ago to thislast year's concert.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You know, now you have the Battle of the Bands and
you're really into it, not justbeing a concert, but really
being an experience and fun foreverybody.
You could tell the band werehaving a blast during that
battle well, I'll tell you thestory.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, you guys are great here.
I was like you're interviewingme.
That started after the one twoyears ago was we're walking out
after the show and I was withTanya Donnelly and Gail
Greenwood and Kay Hanley, whowere such an injection of energy
into the whole thing that yearthat they came in.
That took the thing into a nextlevel.
And as they're walking out Ithink it was Gail, because
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usually Gail's the one that saysthis kind of stuff she's.
We got to put together theknow-it-all girlfriends and all
four of us just kind of stoppedand looked at each other and
went yes, we do and that wasabsolutely the highlight of last
year that battle of the bandsand of course as always, the
girls took it to the next levelwith the signs Falling asleep on
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the monitors when theknow-it-all boyfriends were
playing Like this is so boring.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And they were commenting how like we
Midwesterners are too nice.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And we were just so nice.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And we were, like you know, during the battle.
It was pretty funny yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, all of this and maybe this gets to the genesis
of your business all this isbecause of what the community
has done.
I'm just in the middle of itand trying to keep all the
plates spinning.
For those of you old enough toremember the Ed Sullivan show,
right, all the plates, all theplates spinning.
But it's all these good ideasthat come in and it's about
executing them.
So it's it is.
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It's a ton of fun.
It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And we're so excited to see the growth that's
happened this year.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I'm sure it's a lot to plan I can only imagine Any
teasers you can give us, yes,Well, so we are doing five kind
of call them regular concertsthe week leading up to it.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Wow, so many of the bands the Bangles, belly,
portugal, the man, silver Sun,pickups, laura Jane, the Know it
All Boyfriends are all going todo full concerts the week
leading up to it.
So between the Sylvia and theMajestic, we're going to do?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Oh yes, I did see that on the lineup.
The Majestic is going to bepart of it.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It's part of it too.
So we're going to have thesebig bands in these small venues
and then everybody's going tostick around for Saturday and
still do the big hoopla thing, Ilike to pretend like it's oh my
God, what a burden.
But actually it's not going tobe.
It's not like I'm doing sixversions of that Saturday night.
It's going to be more of the.
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You guys go out, do your set,which I think will be great,
because you know I'm lookingaround here to make sure
nobody's listening.
But obviously all the artistsare going to be in town all week
, right and so, and we staggeredthem.
So the shows at the Majesticare going to be matinee shows, 5
to 7.30.
And then the shows at theSylvia at Night are going to be
8, so everybody can go toeverything.
(22:48):
Well, they're all going to beat each other's shows.
So I think it's going to turninto about six mini Joey song
things.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That's so exciting, that is fun when I was talking
to some of them about travel.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, you're not playing until friday, so you
don't have to come in untilthursday.
Like yeah, but what if we misssomething?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
there's a huge thing of fomo going through all the
community aspects.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Right, there is people wanting to be a part of
the entire thing it isabsolutely true.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Let's talk a little bit about charity and giving
back, though, because there's amillion charities, all of them
worthwhile.
I have said, you know, when Ifirst started joey song and was
recruiting sponsors, I would atfirst kind of get offended not
offended, but kind of grumpywhen somebody would say no.
And then I realized thesebusinesses get hit five ways
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till sunday and we're no betterthan Gigi's Playhouse or Special
Olympics or Alzheimer'sAssociation.
You guys, I'm sure, get hit alot too, especially with your
position as influencers andcommunity leaders as well.
What is it when you're lookingfor a cause to get behind?
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What are some of the thingsother than just the cause?
Because, like I said, we're nobetter than the American Cancer
Society or, like I said, gigi'sPlayhouse or Gio's Garden.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
What resonates with you guys when you're looking at
something to get behind Well,not to hit on it again but I
think community is a big pieceof it, and also that there's a
local piece, and so I do feelthat Joeyey song hits that in
multiple, multiple areas yeahand and there's also an
educational piece that youprovide at these shows that I
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personally didn't know muchabout epilepsy before the the
one I attended two, two yearsago now um, when that one a year
and a half ago right, yeah, butum, you know, I I just thought,
you know, as most peopleprobably think, that it's like
oh okay, I know it's somethingwith you have a seizure.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You fall down on the floor.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know that there there's something that you know
triggers it.
Yeah, and that's pretty whatmuch all I knew and I loved that
there was so much educationadded to the show.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, in a way that didn't take away from this
Correct.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So smooth and interesting, exactly,
interesting, exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, um, I really appreciate, appreciate how much
you all give.
Like you know, sometimes youget invited to things and it's
like you know we'll feed you acouple two appetizers.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know Two appetizers.
Yeah, right, you know $200.
And here's a drink chicken.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, he'susually worth it Right Now.
Where's the money?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I mean, you guys are giving so much it's like wait
who's giving to?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
who here Like really?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I mean, the value is insane, and then, on top of that
, the fact that it goes towardssomething is just incredible.
You just feel so good abouteverything.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Well, so your point about community?
Now I'm going to put a pitch infor the artist.
I don't know if you guys knowthat or not, but to the folks at
home, none of those artiststake a penny for the performance
.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Wow, I didn't know that.
That is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
So I don't know, wow, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And they all come in four or five days ahead of time,
so I don't know what, but therecord.
But it's not two beers and aham sandwich, which is what he
gets from me.
So that's the other thing tokeep in mind.
And now that I've extended it,I mean these folks are going to
be coming in on Tuesday orWednesday and staying till
Sunday and none of them aretaking a penny for it.
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So that gets back to that senseof community that you're
talking about, and they're stilltrying to recruit other people.
Hey come to Madison when it'ssuper cold and not get paid
anything it's gonna be amazingyeah it's gonna be so great,
you're gonna sing everybodyelse's songs, but for some
reason for some reason it workswell, that also is probably an
ode to you, mike as well as muchas you probably don't want to
(26:37):
toot your own horn I'll toot,toot it for you seriously it's
incredible what you created well, thank you, it's all
indivisible package right allthe stuff.
I've got great artists now thatyou know so many of them that we
talked about Kay and Butch thatare in, I mean in all in, kind
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of all in, and that helps too.
And it does help when a charityis focused on kids.
That's always kind of an extrasoft spot for us.
So it does all kind of worktogether.
All right, we've touched on ita little bit, but talk about so.
You were at the one two yearsago.
Talk about your favorite Joeysong memory, or is there
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something in that?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
evening.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
It doesn't even have to be something that happened on
stage, but something in it thatresonates.
I'm going to ask you next,crystal maybe I go first.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I was there last year , yeah, I mean there were a lot
of moments, like the sing-alongswith Corey Chisel are always
just like epic everybody's justswaying and singing and hugging
and loving life, and then andsinging and hugging and all that
life, and then, honestly,charlie Barron's singing.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I know that was one of my favorite experiences too,
right.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Like.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Charlie.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Barron's singing, because you know we get them on
social media and stuff, but wedon't get them singing and then
they're always just hilarious,like they're just rolling.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
But see, that's the thing.
We can make fun of ourselves,if anybody else makes fun of us
yeah yeah, but since Charlie'sone of us, he can make fun of
Wisconsin and all that otherstuff.
He's one of us.
He's one of us.
He's just a kid from Fond duLac.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Well, and it's funny for me because I'm from
California- so I feel like Ilearn a lot about Midwesterners
through Charlie Barron Likeliterally.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I'm like, oh yeah, that's the way my husband talks
all the time I get it now.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's a Midwest thing, it is Like the drink fridge.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
We got one.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
We got a fridge for the garage.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
My husband, literally just filled it with drinks.
I was like what is this?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
This is for my batch cooking.
No, I did it, it's a total.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Midwest thing.
Just as much as you need acheese drawer, she's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
She's not wrong, she's not wrong at all.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
So yes, I love Charlie Barron's and singing
along and just all the classicsthat come on where, like,
everybody just gets all riled upand honestly, seeing the super
fans in the audience you canjust tell like they are just
like so happy.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And that's kind of what I was going to say too,
with the interaction with theaudience, that's something you
don't always get with everysingle concert type you attend
to, so being able to getinvolved and there's always
something to interact, you'renot sitting right, you are very
much, so you're standing you'redancing, you're enjoying, you're
singing, singing along, whetherit's somebody that you know
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with or a new artist that youhaven't heard before.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, and I feel like I hadn't really realized it
until now that we're reflectingon it.
But it's a very big venue, butit feels so intimate.
And I just realized it's thecommunity, it's the family feel,
it's that interaction.
The Sylvie is a beautiful thing.
Yes, it is.
They have like it's thatinteraction.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
The Sylvie is a beautiful thing.
Yes, it is, they have doneeverything right at that place.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I think the other part of it that keeps you I
don't want to say guessing, butengaged is.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
You never know what's going to come next either what
song are they going to do or?
Who's going to walk out, or youknow when we go see any of our
favorite artists you know the 42songs that they're going to do,
or?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
you know, whatever it is, oh, he hasn't played born
to run, yet bruce has got toplay that or whatever it is with
this.
You don't know and to be honest, and I'll whisper it in the
microphone, sometimes the bandsdon't know what they're playing
next that's right.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Wasn't there a spinny thing last year?
We had to play what was fun.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
But that's a beautiful thing, it was so fun
and it creates more excitementwith on the stage and in crowd.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I'll tell you two quick stories, because I have no
musical talent whatsoever,really.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
This is actually surprising.
I am totally surprised.
You got the hair for it.
What's going on?
I'm just a poser.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I'm just a poser, you fit right in.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, that's it.
I can talk the talk.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That's all I can do, but I can't sing the words.
My son's got all the talent.
I don't have any of the talent.
Two moments that show howamazing these folks are.
Several years ago 2019, so thelast show we did at the
Barrymore and again, big news weactually rehearsed that year.
We had never done that beforethe band actually rehearsed.
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So we rehearsed the day before,been rehearsing all day and
everybody was kind of closing upand Alex Drossert, the guy that
plays keyboards for all theband, started playing the riff
from Drive the car song.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Who's?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Gonna Drive you Home.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know that one.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
And he says he has no musical talent and he started
playing the riff and everybodyjust kind of stopped for a
second, started unpacking theirgear.
Corey literally pulled up thelyrics on his phone.
They went through it one timeand said we should do that
tomorrow night.
What Ran through it one timewas not on the list.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's talent.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Then the other one was two years ago, the one that
you would have been at.
We had Dave Perner from SoulAsylum and they had done Take
the Skinheads Bowling at the endof the Soul Asylum set.
But when they were rehearsingit, Butch obviously got in his
head that we should do more.
Dave Lowery is in Cracker andCamper Van Beethoven those are
(32:00):
both his bands and so the nightbefore Butch had maybe had one
too many whiskeys and wasrunning around going, we got to
do that song low by Cracker, hey, hey, hey.
Like being low that song.
Yes, that was Friday night.
The show was the next day.
They ran through it insoundcheck and killed it.
Wow, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
They and killed it.
Wow yeah, that's awesome.
So these, they've got to beloving that flexibility.
That's got to be so satisfyingfor them at that talent level
because they know they can pullit off, and for you to give them
that freedom.
And then we feel thatspontaneity too.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And how excited they are.
It's not like they did it athousand times already and this
is their thousandth concert, andthere's two elements to that.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
There's the this moment will never happen again
side of it right because likewhen they did take the skinheads
bowling, it was perner onvocals and chris collingwood
from phones, and wayne on guitarand butch on drums and freedy
and gail and tanya singing back.
I mean that that combination,even if dave perner sings, take
the skinheads bowling some othertime, it's not going to be that
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configuration right.
So it's that it's never goingto happen again.
And then it's the when they goout on the road they play the
same set every night, you know,and so I think it's a
combination of both of thosethings that hopefully the
audience feels, because, youknow, the artists are like
little kids.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
We definitely feel it , you know.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I agree yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Because the artists are like little kids.
We definitely feel it.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I agree Again, just serendipity and it's evolved.
But I think that is part ofwhat makes it fun.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And like nothing else .
That's the thing.
You can't find this anywhereelse.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I've never been to a fundraising event that is like
Joey's.
There is nothing like it.
Genuinely.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And there's a reason why you have such an incredible
turnout even a concert likeconcerts are like this either
like on both sides of it, you'regetting complete originality
and value, like fun, it's just.
The list goes on and on.
Thank you, agreed, it's a goodwork very pleased with where
it's going.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I'm really glad that you guys are on our side, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I'm excited to see where it's going too.
Yeah, I know we're excited forthis year.
Yeah, we'll see where it'sgoing how long that can hold up.
Oh, you got this.
Let's put that hair back in aponytail.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Well, once I get one of those new male scrunchies.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
See, we'll get you.
See, you do need a scrunchie.
I'm going to get, I'll tie itback, but that's putting it up.
Okay, I don't man, I don't manbun it.
If that's what you're asking,okay, okay, but you just like
we'll pull it back.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Pull it back because it gets in because I like my
food and, if it gets in, my yeah, yeah, it's a whole it's a
whole therapy session that I.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I can't afford your rates.
We do have microphones.
Yeah, yeah, I can't.
I'm so into that.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Chloe and Crystal.
Thank you so much for the chattoday.
Thanks for being there for usand thanks for being excited
about Joey's Song.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
And thank you for what you do.
Thank you for having us.
We're excited for this inJanuary.
Yeah, we are too All right,everybody.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's the end of this Joey's Song podcast.
Stick around, something new iscoming next week.
Thanks for joining us for theJoey Song Podcast.
Remember to visit our website,joysongorg.
Follow us on all our socialmedia handles, which are at Joey
(35:14):
Song.
We'll see you guys at the show.
Oh geez, sorry about the recordscratch.
Wait a minute.
I forgot one thing.
If you want to help us spreadthe word about Joey's song in
our podcast, there's a fewthings you can do that are real
simple that will help us.
One of the things you can do isfollow the show wherever you
(35:34):
get your podcast, give us afive-star review I mean, why
wouldn't you and write a review.
All of these things help ourpodcast and our cause get more
traction and seen throughout thecommunity.
And if you wanted to tell a fewfriends about Joey Song and the
podcast, that would be great aswell.
And, of course, you can visitjoeysongorg and follow us on
(35:56):
social media.
All of our handles are at JoeySong.
Okay, I think that's it.
We will see you guys at theshow.
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