September 19, 2024 • 26 mins
What happens when a finance professional discovers a hidden talent for refurbishing vintage stereo consoles? Meet Steve Paulet, the driving force behind Groovy Wood Studios, who turned his pandemic-born passion project into a thriving business. From repurposing his old Navy stereo equipment to creating exquisite, functional art pieces, Steve’s journey is nothing short of inspiring. We'll also stroll down memory lane, reveling in the nostalgic allure of mid-century consoles and discussing their revival and rising demand in today’s market.
But there's more! We embark on a musical voyage through Steve’s eclectic tastes – from the timeless jazz and the Beatles to the legendary vibes of Chicago Transit Authority, David Bowie, and Led Zeppelin. Hear how today’s music scene, with influences from younger generations, has reignited a passion for discovering new tunes. The episode takes a heartfelt turn as we delve into stories of music’s healing power, including touching moments at Joey’s Song events that underscore the unifying magic of music. Join us in celebrating the joy and camaraderie fostered through music, and learn how you can support the fight against epilepsy with Joey’s Song.
Visit www.joeyssong.org to learn more about Joey's Song and the work we do and get details on our next set of shows. Also be sure to follow us on all popular social media platforms with our handle @joeyssong
Joey's Song is a federally registered 501(c)3 charity that raises money to fund research into treatments and cures for epilepsy. Joey's Song is 100% volunteer with no paid staff, so we are able to convert more dollars into life saving research.
Our Joey's Song family of artists include Rock N Roll Hall of Famers, Grammy and Emmy winners and Top 40 hitmakers.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey everybody, welcome to the Joey Song Podcast
.
I'm your host, mike Gamal.
For those of you that are newto Joey Song, we're a 501c3
charity that raises money tofund research into treatments
and cures for epilepsy.
We also direct funds to supportpatient services and community
programs as well.
Our fundraising vehicle ismusic.
Every year, we hold a series ofconcerts that feature Rock and
(00:30):
Roll Hall of Famers, grammywinners and Top 40 hit makers.
These amazing artists all cometo Madison, wisconsin, each
January for a festival that wecall Freezing man.
You should know that every oneof the artists that plays at our
event donates their time andtalent.
None of our performers take apenny to join us.
We have no paid staff.
We are a 100% volunteerorganization.
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The next Freezing man isscheduled to take place January
8th through the 11th 2025, withsix amazing shows scheduled over
four days.
To find out more about Joey'sSong, you can find us at our
website, joey'songorg, or followus on social media, where all
of our handles are at Joey'sSong.
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Hey everybody, welcome to theJoey's Song podcast.
Today we are talking with oneof our longtime sponsors and
supporters, steve Paulette.
Steve literally owns thecoolest business on the planet,
bar none.
You will not convince me ofanything else.
Steve owns something calledGroovy Wood Studios and you've
got to hear about it to believeit.
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He has been a longtimesupporter of Joey Song and is a
dear, dear friend of theorganization.
So stick around for myconversation with super cool
business owner, steve Paulette.
Hey everybody, welcome to theJoey's Song podcast, and you
(02:03):
heard in my little pre-recordedintro.
There I'm talking with myfriend, steve Paulette, who has
been a longtime sponsor of JoeySong through several of his
businesses, one of which we'regoing to talk about because it
is easily the coolest business Ihave ever heard of in my whole
life.
And when I first met Steve Iwas so stinking jealous and I
watched it from afar.
And we'll get into all that,but I'll try not to have a bad
(02:24):
attitude going into this.
Steve Paulette, welcome to theJoey Son podcast.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Thanks for having me, mike.
I appreciate it, it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, so we're in the middle of this business.
I've got to start here becauseit's so damn cool.
Sure, please tell the folks andI want to tell the backstory,
because you haven't been doingthis you were in finance in New
York for a long time.
Please tell everybody about thebusiness you built.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah sure, four years ago well, I guess it's five now
at the start of COVID, sittingin my house wanting to pull out
my old stereo equipment.
So I had something to listen toin my living room and I looked
at it and it's the stuff Ibought with my first Navy check
back in 1984.
It's JBL speakers, denonturntable.
And I looked at it and I didn'thave any place to put it and I
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thought, oh man, I'm going to gograb one of those old
mid-century consoles, gut it,throw this in there.
I did just that within the week,grabbed the console off of
Facebook for 20 bucks, put myNavy equipment in there I call
it my Navy equipment because Ihad this great attachment to
this stuff and started listeningto it and it sounded amazing
and it looked way cool.
So, and started listening to itand it sounded amazing and it
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looked way cool.
So by the end of the week Ihave a few friends, neighbors,
looking at it and say this isreally dynamite.
This is really a thing you knowand I didn't know, that was my
reaction when I first heard it.
So I immediately kind of shiftedfor this little side hustle of
buying a console every week,putting equipment into it or
refurbishing it or rebuilding it.
And when you know, by the endof the summer it's this thing
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that's clicking and I'm sellingfive or ten consoles a month.
And I was like oh gosh.
So by fall I got into hereSherman Terrace and it just took
off and, yeah, I call it GroovyWood Studios.
I sat down one day.
What am I going to call thisthing?
It needs a name.
It's not Steve's Wooden Toys,steve's Navy Equipment.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Steve's Radio Shack, so I wrote on a blackboard.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Groovy because of the grooves and the genre of
hippiness, and it is wood.
And to me it's a studio becauseevery single piece is a piece
of art and I just love them fortheir architectural content and
I ran with it.
Groovy Wood Studios has justbeen a thing ever since.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know, we all those of us of a certain age all
grew up with one of those.
I had one, my parents had one,one of those consoles, and back
at a certain age all you had wasrecords to play and while I had
the little tinny one in my room, obviously the speakers were
much nicer on that big console.
So when mom and dad wouldn't behome it was a real treat to be
able to take my queen night atthe opera record and listen to
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it through those big blaringspeakers.
And it had the arm and it wouldfall down and all those
wonderful things about it.
So again in our generationthose were ubiquitous.
We all had one of those darnthings, right?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
yeah, and for for a while there it was kind of touch
and go, as I was finding a fewof them in in garages and estate
sales, and then all of a suddenwe wouldn't find them.
I'm driving all around themidwest and now they're being
cleared out of basements againand either headed to landfill
and we rescue them or I.
There's still so many of themout there in the world that
haven't been dumped yet.
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So yeah, to me that just pointsto it.
It's still a thing.
It's just people looking atbringing them to me to retrofit
for them, and I've got a few inthe shop right now.
In fact, that's half mybusiness is fixing them up for
people that bring them to me, asopposed to us just now buying
them and redoing them now, whenyou do it, do you try to make
them?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm assuming you're just to be.
It depends on what the clientwants.
But are you trying to keep itoriginal or are you update?
You know, like are there CDplayers tucked in there and all
that kind of stuff as well?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So yes, and I base it on two things.
The console speaks to me as towhat it's capable of doing.
Going forward, the originalcomponents are going to work and
be great.
Will they exceed the customer'sexpectations?
If you will, and that's theother half of the picture.
What do they want?
I think half of the consoles,and I did over 800 consoles in
the last four years.
Amazing, put your mind aroundthat I can't either.
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I look at the spreadsheet ofcustomers and deliveries and
it's unbelievable.
But half of that went out astotally original and the other
half went out as customizedhybrid and some of them went out
as totally new modifications,where we put in all new amps,
all new speakers, all neweverything, and the only thing
original is the wood around it.
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So it really turns into what isthe customer want.
A lot of times they bring it tome as to well, what can we get
away with?
And I think by and large theygo out as a hybrid.
Some of the old components workwork and some of the new
components come in and, as youmentioned, yeah, cds are still a
thing.
Yeah, um, we grew up in a tracksound horrible, but I have a
great collection of a tracksthey sound horrible.
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They're horrible to work, yeah,and, and even cassette tapes
were bad and you had to have anumber two pencil to be able to
manage the cassette tape world.
But people in the nostalgic endof it want that nostalgic gear.
So I'm putting in 8-track tapesand certainly reel-to-reel is a
thing, and my brother listensto reel-to-reel all the time.
I listen to reel-to-reel here 2%of the time.
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That's our divide, and I havecustomers that are somewhere
along the spectrum.
Certainly the vinyl resurgencein America, if not the world, is
what's been driving ourbusiness as well as the
resurgence of mid-century, butthe vinyl resurgence is amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know the thing I remember because we all again of
a certain age.
You had an 8-track player inyour car, if nothing else right.
And I know on the handful of8-tracks exactly where the song
would stop mid-turn, to go fromtrack one to track two, or two
to three, or three to four.
You knew it was coming up andyou just wait for it and that
was you know.
You try to explain that to kidsthese days and they just don't
know the hardships we wentthrough to listen to our music.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And see our music.
I can listen to a record in mymind without ever putting one on
and I know track by track, inthe order they go, and anyone
our age typically does thatAbsolutely Kids nowadays just
stream one by one and theirplaylists are all built.
But even like you said, whetherit was a cassette tape or an
8-track tape or vinyl, we knowwhat was next.
I can play Meet the Beatlesfrom front to back and know
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every single track in my mind.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And that was just.
I don't want to turn this intotwo old guys yelling at clouds
here but I was having aconversation with somebody the
other day and trying to explainthe beauty of vinyl, was also
the thrill of opening it up andreading the liner notes too
right, going through and readingthe thank yous and who did what
and so-and-so, played on thisand all that stuff.
And we always knew that the newrecords always came out at
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least I did because I was muchof a dork always came out on
tuesday, so you knew to headdown to the record store on
tuesday.
You are a dork, oh yeah, huge,enormous, and I had a bunch of
them with me that I grew up withand we'd head down, and because
you wanted to get it on thatfirst day, well, and there's
that, that experience.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So you know this because when you walked into the
front of our building younotice a big difference right
away.
This past few months we openedup Groovy Vinyl and that was to
bring back the full connectionof music with the consoles.
Consoles is one thing, and Ialways enabled my customers by
selling them some vinyl that Ihad in my collection, and I met
a retired schoolteacher who waslooking for something to do and
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he's a huge record collector.
So I said, hey, let's just gooff and do this.
Got a couple thousand records,put it out front and Groovy
Vinyl launches off.
So now I really get to tie backthat part of the business which
I only made when I'm deliveringa console and I'm finally given
the chance Now it's amazing tosit and watch these people come
in and they go through the wholeethereal experience of pulling
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a record out of the stack.
Pulling a record out of thesleeve doing the flip.
Oh yeah, looking it over andit's like, oh, I do miss that.
Yeah, I mean I'm a consumer ofrecords as well.
Yeah and um, I mean we do giveeverybody that comes through the
door our little pamphlet thathas all the record stores in the
area on it, because we wantthem.
I can't have every singlerecord right.
I want them to go to the otherstores and get more records and
you know, that's the kind ofpeace, love and joy we
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experience we try to spread.
It's very groovy.
Well, it is.
And you know what?
I put every single one of myrecords, even my personal
collection, up for on yeah andsale.
And people were coming in.
I heard these were your records.
I I said, well, great, only acouple thousand of them were
mine.
I said there's only a fewrecords I'm not selling and
that's the one that Butch Vigsigned for me, the Nirvana album
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.
That's a Joey song.
I have that on my wall.
That's not being sold.
I had them signed too One's atmy son's in his room in the army
in fort wachaka in uh arizonayeah yeah, yeah.
So, uh, you know there's a fewalbums I'm not selling, but
everything else has been outthere.
And when people ask me, how canyou do that, yeah, it's like
I'm just spreading that lovewhile I can, because what am I
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gonna die?
I'm gonna have all theserecords.
So I mean people that arecollecting records.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We've been getting a lot at at estate sales and I
just kind of feel like I don'twant to be that guy yeah, no,
that makes complete sense andthat it, like you said, it ties
in that whole idea of theconsole with the media right,
the razor blades and the razorkind of concept that's why they
come in.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I mean they're experiencing it.
So I just kind of foamingmaking that picture.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Now do you sell them a nickel that they can put on
the on the arm, in case therecord skips too I actually put
in new turntables and have thatwell-adjusted.
Okay, just checking.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
No nickels required.
I guess I should have thatposted.
Maybe there's a T-shirt there.
I think there is Groovy vinyland groovy woods, no nickels
required.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So let's talk about music.
You and I are of the samegeneration and you've mentioned
a lot of my Northern Starsalready.
Right, the the same generationand you've mentioned a lot of my
northern stars already.
Right, the beatles, and I know,as I walk through bowie's in
there and all that other stuff,what are, if you had?
This is a terrible question.
I can't believe I'm going toask this.
If you had to put your mountrushmore up, well, who would be
on your mount rushmore?
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You can be at a bands orindividual artists well, yeah,
so my inspirations go way earlyback.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
My sisters were big into music.
They played every singleinstrument in the band and
orchestra.
As soon as I turned 11, I wasgiven a trombone at Christmas.
I really wanted a trombone.
I was really liking jazz.
So you don't know me and myjazz affection, but when you
walk in you see my trombonehanging in the back window.
There's a reason and it'spointing towards John Coltrane
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and the saxophone on the wall.
That gives you a little bit ofa picture.
But you know, in 64, theBeatles came along and blew my
mind.
The next day I'm outside in thefront yard with the garbage
cans turned over, banging themon the sticks yelling you and
Ringo man, I love you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just screaming, and all myfriends' mothers are looking at
me thinking I'm so cute and Iknew that chick's dug me at that
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point Of course.
Of course.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So obviously I was big into Beatles and, oh man,
big into Chicago TransitAuthority, CTA, not just Chicago
and immediately got turned onto David Bowie, way early on,
for a wide variety of reasons.
That's why you see him on thewall.
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Oh man, I'm about as eclecticas they get.
I'll leave out classical music,you know, but I'm big into
Miles Davis, for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I was going to circle back to jazz, because we'll let
that go.
Oh yeah, when.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I was getting an MRI on my knees last year and you
know, it was 4 in the morningand the guy puts on the
headphones and says, what do youwant to listen to?
And I said, well, miles Daviswould be great.
So they, you know, I'm halfsedated, but they, I get pulled
into the tube and he's gotsomething else on.
So I'm literally knocking onthe tube, I make him pull me.
I said, listen, I don't knowwhat you put on, but that's not
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Miles Davis yeah, if we're gonnado this for the next hour and a
half come on kind of blue ornothing pal so, uh, oh gosh, I
don't know.
The list goes on and on.
There's a stack, so will, and Ihave each our own stacks out
there that we call our choicefor the for each month.
Yeah, and in there right now isbowie and uriah.
Heat and fog.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Hat was my first concert oh yeah, it was my
second.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay, it was my second, and well, they were
leading off for Bach MaturnaOverdrive and that was like my
favorite at that time.
I had the embroidered jacket ofBach Maturna.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Overdrive.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Of course, couldn't get past Led Zeppelin and oh man
, the list goes on and on.
We can be here for two or threehours, in fact, I think Will.
My partner in the groovy vinylpart decided we're going to just
do a podcast because we talkabout this at least weekly when
happy hour starts, yep and takeour deep dives into the things
we like and then the things wediscovered that week all right,
so let's take this in adifferent direction then.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Since you still got one spot on mount rushmore, you
didn't fill music that's beingmade today.
Who are you listening to, orwho of the folks that are making
music and they?
Can be older bands but that arestill putting out new material.
Is there anyone thatparticularly speaks to you?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So you know, I have a couple of Airbnbs in town
groovy Airbnb with consoles init and I have bands that stay
there quite often as they'replaying at the Sylvie and other
venues in town.
So every time they stay there Iget online and I start watching
them so I get a little exposureto that side of it.
We have a record listeningparty tomorrow for a new release
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from California Honey Drops,and I do like that bluesy folksy
.
I didn't used to, but I'm justtrying to expand my mind on it.
You know, I don't know ifthere's anything that I remember
that's overly popular, thatpeople would even know, but boy,
I've got a slate in my, in myplaylist of stuff that I've
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happened upon in the last sixmonths or so.
Yeah, but I'm way fond of.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I have finally, after about 10 years of crossing my
arm and determining that no goodmusic is being made anymore,
thanks to having a 22 year oldson who's a musician, has
introduced me to so much and Ifeel like I wasted all those
years of being sure that goodmusic stopped in about 95, right
, you know um kind of stuff.
So I I'm just always curiousfor folks again of our
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generation that have those sametouch points that I do what it
is today, because I've circledback and for me it's a lot of
what you would call alt-countryis the wrong word but the Jason
Isbells and the SturgillSimpsons and those kind of folks
that are making country musicbut with Chris Stapleton, all
that stuff, and maybe that's oldenough feeling to me, but there
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is good stuff out there stillbeing made.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
For sure.
We come across it all the time.
And then the other thing Ienjoy about my newborn life, now
that I have this vinyl storeout front, is we do deep dives.
Quite often We'll just throw onsomething for the heck of it.
International blows my mind.
It's amazing how much goodinternational music is out there
in Spain and France and Italy.
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I mean, we've heard it over thepast, but now, reigniting that,
it's pretty amazing.
We'll just sit there and saygosh, how have I not listened to
?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
any of this in so long that whole world beat kind
of stuff that's out there.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh it's crazy.
The.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
African filicute and all those people out there.
That yeah, yeah for sure.
And that's the beauty of musicand the worldwide aspect of it.
There's always something youhaven't heard.
I remember back when I was incollege Now I'm going to really
go down a wormhole with you hereRemember when Willie Nelson had
the movie Honeysuckle Rose, Doyou remember that?
And at that point I was arocker.
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That was the music that Ilistened to.
And I read a review in cream oryou know one of those magazines
that you listen to of the albumand it said good music is good
music regardless, you know.
And it went through and it saidwillie nelson makes good music.
And I kind of started torealize that if you're bigoted
towards you know two, if itdoesn't have two guitars, a bass
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, and you know a screaming leadsinger, it's not good.
And that opened up my eyes todoing all that stuff as well.
Going, you know, and there'scrappy music in the genre you
like too.
So just because there's crap insomething else doesn't mean
there's not good stuff in theretoo.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Right.
Well, our parents would alwayssay what the hell is that?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
crap, you're listening to.
Turn that record down.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
My father would always say your radio is broke,
let me buy you another one.
But I lived the same moment youdid In 78, I graduated high
school in New York and I go downto school in Texas.
So I come out of the heavy rockside of it.
In fact I was just talking withWill saying we used to go to
our bars you know where Armandis in New York and we'd see
Twisted Sister before they werereally Twisted Sister I, before
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they were a really twistedsystem.
I said that's the rocker sidethat I grew up with.
And then all of a sudden in 78,we got Saturday Night Fever,
going on the disco era, and Iend up in Texas and they don't
gently take me to countrywestern bars.
There is just nothing else.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
They have two kinds of music country and western.
Both types of music country andwestern.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
In fact, that's what my stacks are called over there.
We don't call it country West.
This is both types yeah, andyou know I was immediately
indoctrinated into all thecountry.
Western stars the Statlerbrothers yeah, and and, and, and
, and, and, and, and, and, and,and, and, and, and, and and.
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Okay, maybe if we turn thisinto a video podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That'll be session number two.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
There are pictures of me in that and with a shaved
head because I was in the Corpsof.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Cadets, oh gosh man.
Oh my goodness, that's a door.
I'm glad we just opened up.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm going to tell you .
Speaker 1 (19:17):
All right.
So let's take it now the reasonthat we're here today, joey's
son.
So For me, you're the idealperson to talk to, because it
combines your business and yourpassion together Absolutely, and
I just I know the answer tothis, but I want everybody
listening to listen to this.
So why is it that an event likeJoey's song resonates with you
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both personally andprofessionally?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
If I never met you, I would be doing this, I just
would.
I just feel like this is likepart of that vibe and groove,
except I didn't have a causethat steered me and spearheaded
me into it, except for you know,I don't want to say love of
people, but you find a cause, acause will come.
(20:03):
You know, if you believe insomething, a cause will come to
you.
But then when I met you andsome of the people on your staff
, it was like there it is.
I want to do this, but I'm notgoing to come gangbusters on
your door like I'm going to bein your face every single day.
Let me start with somesponsorships and do everything I
can do that you ever asked meto.
I think pretty sure you knowanyone that ever came to us like
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would you do this, Would you dothat?
I was like not only would I dothis, and that it's whatever
else.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I can do, this and that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Whatever I can do yeah, you know I believe in your
personal cause for this, Ibelieve in your authenticity for
it and then to do it withsomething that you know music
cures a lot of things.
I took a council down to Texasa year ago.
A friend of mine was recoveringfrom cancer and we weren't sure
(20:53):
he was recovering then.
Yeah, but I said I think musiccures cancer and I brought him a
console.
And I brought him a bunch ofrecords, 50 of my favorite
records Dark Side of the Moon,alan Parsons Project, half my
Bowie collection and wouldn'tyou know he got over cancer now.
He had great doctors and all therest of that.
(21:13):
But I just looked at it like,while you're at home fighting,
recouping whatever it is, here'syour console, yeah, and here's
your music, yeah.
And he hasn't returned thealbums yet.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
That shows he's in really good shape.
He's in really good shape.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
No for sure, we joke about it all the time, but I
always say music cures all, byand large.
This we know.
It's that common language.
The very first day I came intoSherman Terrace I had the door
open and I'm playing music.
I'm sitting outside recoupingfrom moving 28 consoles that day
and a guy walks up.
That was nonverbal and I don'tknow what the rest of his life
(21:50):
was about, but he sat there infront of my door and air
guitared and he looked at me.
That's amazing and it was kindof like gave me this.
I know this song, yeah, and wejust had this conversation yeah,
with air guitar in this.
Yeah, we spoke and off you went.
I just sat there like I'm onthe right thing.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, yeah, when you get that day one man, that a
that's the bluebird flying inthe window.
I mean, that's well.
You know.
You mentioned the cause andeverybody involved, and you know
, one of the things that we talkabout with Joey song is what we
do is deadly serious.
How we do it is not right.
What we're trying to do is stopthe suffering, stop people being
(22:27):
upended, stop young lives beinglost, but we do it in a way, I
think, that befits the spirit ofhaving music at the core of it,
which is that, that freedomthat comes with it, which is
that, um, I'm going to saylaissez-faire, but kind of in
the moment nothing matters in agood way, kind of stuff that
music brings, like your frienddown in texas, the reason you
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can feel like it has a cause andeffect, kind of stuff is
because when you're in thatmoment that we've all have it,
no matter what kind of music youlike, we all know where you go
oh, this is the great part,right?
Whatever it is that you'relistening to, it's this guitar
solo or this vocal when you'rein that moment, nothing else
matters, and I think that'sthat's important.
When you're trying to eradicatethings that are not pleasant,
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like epilepsy that takes lives,or cancer or any of the other
great causes out there.
So I I think you're spot onwith what you're saying and I
wish I could say that it wassome grand plan that I had, but
butch and I stumbled into thisand I'm okay with with that too.
So do you have now you've beento a couple?
Do you have a favorite memoryof the Joey Song events?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Oh, there's so many, you know, so if I rattle off the
top five, that's fine.
I love meeting Butch, havinghim bless a couple of my albums,
love meeting Charlie a fewtimes oh yeah.
Him remembering me screamingover the balcony the year before
bidding on the tackle box.
So it's getting a chance to beup close and personal with them.
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I really loved this past yearand how that kicked off and how
that played out.
I think it was just a beautifulmoment that year.
As I told you this past year,congratulations, it was an
amazing event and I I don't evenbegin to fathom what's going on
in the upcoming year.
I keep looking at the podcastand your announcements.
Yeah, but last year was sospecial and, uh, my friends will
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not long forget that yeah, yeah, there's.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
There's a lot of those one in a, one in a million
moments and if folks arelistening to this podcast, they
know what we're talking about.
But I wish everybody wouldleave with those kind of
memories that you talk about,because that's it, it's the
camaraderie, it's the feeling,it's the oneness, the stage and
the audience.
And it helps when people up onstage are really talented and
it's not you and me up theresinging, because that wouldn't
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be good.
That would clear out a room.
Well, steve Paulette thanks fortaking the time to chat.
I am so envious of Groovy Woods.
You cannot believe I'veexpressed it to you before.
If you are listening to thisand you are of a certain age and
you can tell by the musicalreferences we've made what that
is, check out Groovy Woods,because it is uber cool.
So, steve Paulette, thank youfor your support.
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Thanks for taking the time tochat today.
Mike, thanks for being you man.
Well, that's what I'm stuckwith.
My wife would disagree with youon that, but fair enough.
Thanks everybody.
Stay tuned for another episodenext week.
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Thanks for joining us for theJoey Song podcast.
Remember to visit our website,joeysongorg.
Follow us on all our socialmedia handles which are at Joey
Song.
We'll see you guys at the show.
Oh geez, sorry about the record.
Scratch, wait a minute.
I forgot one thing.
If you want to help us spreadthe word about Joey Song and our
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And write a review.
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And if you wanted to tell a fewfriends about Joey Song in the
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podcast, that would be great aswell.
And, of course, you can visitjoeysongorg and follow us on
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Okay, I think that's it.
We will see you guys at theshow.
Thank you.
Hey everybody, welcome to the Joey Song Podcast
.
I'm your host, mike Gamal.
For those of you that are newto Joey Song, we're a 501c3
charity that raises money tofund research into treatments
and cures for epilepsy.
We also direct funds to supportpatient services and community
programs as well.
Our fundraising vehicle ismusic.
Every year, we hold a series ofconcerts that feature Rock and
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Roll Hall of Famers, grammywinners and Top 40 hit makers.
These amazing artists all cometo Madison, wisconsin, each
January for a festival that wecall Freezing man.
You should know that every oneof the artists that plays at our
event donates their time andtalent.
None of our performers take apenny to join us.
We have no paid staff.
We are a 100% volunteerorganization.
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The next Freezing man isscheduled to take place January
8th through the 11th 2025, withsix amazing shows scheduled over
four days.
To find out more about Joey'sSong, you can find us at our
website, joey'songorg, or followus on social media, where all
of our handles are at Joey'sSong.
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Hey everybody, welcome to theJoey's Song podcast.
Today we are talking with oneof our longtime sponsors and
supporters, steve Paulette.
Steve literally owns thecoolest business on the planet,
bar none.
You will not convince me ofanything else.
Steve owns something calledGroovy Wood Studios and you've
got to hear about it to believeit.
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He has been a longtimesupporter of Joey Song and is a
dear, dear friend of theorganization.
So stick around for myconversation with super cool
business owner, steve Paulette.
Hey everybody, welcome to theJoey's Song podcast, and you
(02:03):
heard in my little pre-recordedintro.
There I'm talking with myfriend, steve Paulette, who has
been a longtime sponsor of JoeySong through several of his
businesses, one of which we'regoing to talk about because it
is easily the coolest business Ihave ever heard of in my whole
life.
And when I first met Steve Iwas so stinking jealous and I
watched it from afar.
And we'll get into all that,but I'll try not to have a bad
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attitude going into this.
Steve Paulette, welcome to theJoey Son podcast.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Thanks for having me, mike.
I appreciate it, it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, so we're in the middle of this business.
I've got to start here becauseit's so damn cool.
Sure, please tell the folks andI want to tell the backstory,
because you haven't been doingthis you were in finance in New
York for a long time.
Please tell everybody about thebusiness you built.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah sure, four years ago well, I guess it's five now
at the start of COVID, sittingin my house wanting to pull out
my old stereo equipment.
So I had something to listen toin my living room and I looked
at it and it's the stuff Ibought with my first Navy check
back in 1984.
It's JBL speakers, denonturntable.
And I looked at it and I didn'thave any place to put it and I
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thought, oh man, I'm going to gograb one of those old
mid-century consoles, gut it,throw this in there.
I did just that within the week,grabbed the console off of
Facebook for 20 bucks, put myNavy equipment in there I call
it my Navy equipment because Ihad this great attachment to
this stuff and started listeningto it and it sounded amazing
and it looked way cool.
So, and started listening to itand it sounded amazing and it
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looked way cool.
So by the end of the week Ihave a few friends, neighbors,
looking at it and say this isreally dynamite.
This is really a thing you knowand I didn't know, that was my
reaction when I first heard it.
So I immediately kind of shiftedfor this little side hustle of
buying a console every week,putting equipment into it or
refurbishing it or rebuilding it.
And when you know, by the endof the summer it's this thing
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that's clicking and I'm sellingfive or ten consoles a month.
And I was like oh gosh.
So by fall I got into hereSherman Terrace and it just took
off and, yeah, I call it GroovyWood Studios.
I sat down one day.
What am I going to call thisthing?
It needs a name.
It's not Steve's Wooden Toys,steve's Navy Equipment.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Steve's Radio Shack, so I wrote on a blackboard.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Groovy because of the grooves and the genre of
hippiness, and it is wood.
And to me it's a studio becauseevery single piece is a piece
of art and I just love them fortheir architectural content and
I ran with it.
Groovy Wood Studios has justbeen a thing ever since.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know, we all those of us of a certain age all
grew up with one of those.
I had one, my parents had one,one of those consoles, and back
at a certain age all you had wasrecords to play and while I had
the little tinny one in my room, obviously the speakers were
much nicer on that big console.
So when mom and dad wouldn't behome it was a real treat to be
able to take my queen night atthe opera record and listen to
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it through those big blaringspeakers.
And it had the arm and it wouldfall down and all those
wonderful things about it.
So again in our generationthose were ubiquitous.
We all had one of those darnthings, right?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
yeah, and for for a while there it was kind of touch
and go, as I was finding a fewof them in in garages and estate
sales, and then all of a suddenwe wouldn't find them.
I'm driving all around themidwest and now they're being
cleared out of basements againand either headed to landfill
and we rescue them or I.
There's still so many of themout there in the world that
haven't been dumped yet.
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So yeah, to me that just pointsto it.
It's still a thing.
It's just people looking atbringing them to me to retrofit
for them, and I've got a few inthe shop right now.
In fact, that's half mybusiness is fixing them up for
people that bring them to me, asopposed to us just now buying
them and redoing them now, whenyou do it, do you try to make
them?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm assuming you're just to be.
It depends on what the clientwants.
But are you trying to keep itoriginal or are you update?
You know, like are there CDplayers tucked in there and all
that kind of stuff as well?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So yes, and I base it on two things.
The console speaks to me as towhat it's capable of doing.
Going forward, the originalcomponents are going to work and
be great.
Will they exceed the customer'sexpectations?
If you will, and that's theother half of the picture.
What do they want?
I think half of the consoles,and I did over 800 consoles in
the last four years.
Amazing, put your mind aroundthat I can't either.
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I look at the spreadsheet ofcustomers and deliveries and
it's unbelievable.
But half of that went out astotally original and the other
half went out as customizedhybrid and some of them went out
as totally new modifications,where we put in all new amps,
all new speakers, all neweverything, and the only thing
original is the wood around it.
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So it really turns into what isthe customer want.
A lot of times they bring it tome as to well, what can we get
away with?
And I think by and large theygo out as a hybrid.
Some of the old components workwork and some of the new
components come in and, as youmentioned, yeah, cds are still a
thing.
Yeah, um, we grew up in a tracksound horrible, but I have a
great collection of a tracksthey sound horrible.
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They're horrible to work, yeah,and, and even cassette tapes
were bad and you had to have anumber two pencil to be able to
manage the cassette tape world.
But people in the nostalgic endof it want that nostalgic gear.
So I'm putting in 8-track tapesand certainly reel-to-reel is a
thing, and my brother listensto reel-to-reel all the time.
I listen to reel-to-reel here 2%of the time.
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That's our divide, and I havecustomers that are somewhere
along the spectrum.
Certainly the vinyl resurgencein America, if not the world, is
what's been driving ourbusiness as well as the
resurgence of mid-century, butthe vinyl resurgence is amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know the thing I remember because we all again of
a certain age.
You had an 8-track player inyour car, if nothing else right.
And I know on the handful of8-tracks exactly where the song
would stop mid-turn, to go fromtrack one to track two, or two
to three, or three to four.
You knew it was coming up andyou just wait for it and that
was you know.
You try to explain that to kidsthese days and they just don't
know the hardships we wentthrough to listen to our music.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And see our music.
I can listen to a record in mymind without ever putting one on
and I know track by track, inthe order they go, and anyone
our age typically does thatAbsolutely Kids nowadays just
stream one by one and theirplaylists are all built.
But even like you said, whetherit was a cassette tape or an
8-track tape or vinyl, we knowwhat was next.
I can play Meet the Beatlesfrom front to back and know
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every single track in my mind.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And that was just.
I don't want to turn this intotwo old guys yelling at clouds
here but I was having aconversation with somebody the
other day and trying to explainthe beauty of vinyl, was also
the thrill of opening it up andreading the liner notes too
right, going through and readingthe thank yous and who did what
and so-and-so, played on thisand all that stuff.
And we always knew that the newrecords always came out at
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least I did because I was muchof a dork always came out on
tuesday, so you knew to headdown to the record store on
tuesday.
You are a dork, oh yeah, huge,enormous, and I had a bunch of
them with me that I grew up withand we'd head down, and because
you wanted to get it on thatfirst day, well, and there's
that, that experience.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So you know this because when you walked into the
front of our building younotice a big difference right
away.
This past few months we openedup Groovy Vinyl and that was to
bring back the full connectionof music with the consoles.
Consoles is one thing, and Ialways enabled my customers by
selling them some vinyl that Ihad in my collection, and I met
a retired schoolteacher who waslooking for something to do and
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he's a huge record collector.
So I said, hey, let's just gooff and do this.
Got a couple thousand records,put it out front and Groovy
Vinyl launches off.
So now I really get to tie backthat part of the business which
I only made when I'm deliveringa console and I'm finally given
the chance Now it's amazing tosit and watch these people come
in and they go through the wholeethereal experience of pulling
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a record out of the stack.
Pulling a record out of thesleeve doing the flip.
Oh yeah, looking it over andit's like, oh, I do miss that.
Yeah, I mean I'm a consumer ofrecords as well.
Yeah and um, I mean we do giveeverybody that comes through the
door our little pamphlet thathas all the record stores in the
area on it, because we wantthem.
I can't have every singlerecord right.
I want them to go to the otherstores and get more records and
you know, that's the kind ofpeace, love and joy we
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experience we try to spread.
It's very groovy.
Well, it is.
And you know what?
I put every single one of myrecords, even my personal
collection, up for on yeah andsale.
And people were coming in.
I heard these were your records.
I I said, well, great, only acouple thousand of them were
mine.
I said there's only a fewrecords I'm not selling and
that's the one that Butch Vigsigned for me, the Nirvana album
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.
That's a Joey song.
I have that on my wall.
That's not being sold.
I had them signed too One's atmy son's in his room in the army
in fort wachaka in uh arizonayeah yeah, yeah.
So, uh, you know there's a fewalbums I'm not selling, but
everything else has been outthere.
And when people ask me, how canyou do that, yeah, it's like
I'm just spreading that lovewhile I can, because what am I
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gonna die?
I'm gonna have all theserecords.
So I mean people that arecollecting records.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
We've been getting a lot at at estate sales and I
just kind of feel like I don'twant to be that guy yeah, no,
that makes complete sense andthat it, like you said, it ties
in that whole idea of theconsole with the media right,
the razor blades and the razorkind of concept that's why they
come in.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I mean they're experiencing it.
So I just kind of foamingmaking that picture.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Now do you sell them a nickel that they can put on
the on the arm, in case therecord skips too I actually put
in new turntables and have thatwell-adjusted.
Okay, just checking.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
No nickels required.
I guess I should have thatposted.
Maybe there's a T-shirt there.
I think there is Groovy vinyland groovy woods, no nickels
required.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So let's talk about music.
You and I are of the samegeneration and you've mentioned
a lot of my Northern Starsalready.
Right, the the same generationand you've mentioned a lot of my
northern stars already.
Right, the beatles, and I know,as I walk through bowie's in
there and all that other stuff,what are, if you had?
This is a terrible question.
I can't believe I'm going toask this.
If you had to put your mountrushmore up, well, who would be
on your mount rushmore?
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You can be at a bands orindividual artists well, yeah,
so my inspirations go way earlyback.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
My sisters were big into music.
They played every singleinstrument in the band and
orchestra.
As soon as I turned 11, I wasgiven a trombone at Christmas.
I really wanted a trombone.
I was really liking jazz.
So you don't know me and myjazz affection, but when you
walk in you see my trombonehanging in the back window.
There's a reason and it'spointing towards John Coltrane
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and the saxophone on the wall.
That gives you a little bit ofa picture.
But you know, in 64, theBeatles came along and blew my
mind.
The next day I'm outside in thefront yard with the garbage
cans turned over, banging themon the sticks yelling you and
Ringo man, I love you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just screaming, and all myfriends' mothers are looking at
me thinking I'm so cute and Iknew that chick's dug me at that
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point Of course.
Of course.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So obviously I was big into Beatles and, oh man,
big into Chicago TransitAuthority, CTA, not just Chicago
and immediately got turned onto David Bowie, way early on,
for a wide variety of reasons.
That's why you see him on thewall.
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Oh man, I'm about as eclecticas they get.
I'll leave out classical music,you know, but I'm big into
Miles Davis, for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I was going to circle back to jazz, because we'll let
that go.
Oh yeah, when.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I was getting an MRI on my knees last year and you
know, it was 4 in the morningand the guy puts on the
headphones and says, what do youwant to listen to?
And I said, well, miles Daviswould be great.
So they, you know, I'm halfsedated, but they, I get pulled
into the tube and he's gotsomething else on.
So I'm literally knocking onthe tube, I make him pull me.
I said, listen, I don't knowwhat you put on, but that's not
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Miles Davis yeah, if we're gonnado this for the next hour and a
half come on kind of blue ornothing pal so, uh, oh gosh, I
don't know.
The list goes on and on.
There's a stack, so will, and Ihave each our own stacks out
there that we call our choicefor the for each month.
Yeah, and in there right now isbowie and uriah.
Heat and fog.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Hat was my first concert oh yeah, it was my
second.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay, it was my second, and well, they were
leading off for Bach MaturnaOverdrive and that was like my
favorite at that time.
I had the embroidered jacket ofBach Maturna.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Overdrive.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Of course, couldn't get past Led Zeppelin and oh man
, the list goes on and on.
We can be here for two or threehours, in fact, I think Will.
My partner in the groovy vinylpart decided we're going to just
do a podcast because we talkabout this at least weekly when
happy hour starts, yep and takeour deep dives into the things
we like and then the things wediscovered that week all right,
so let's take this in adifferent direction then.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Since you still got one spot on mount rushmore, you
didn't fill music that's beingmade today.
Who are you listening to, orwho of the folks that are making
music and they?
Can be older bands but that arestill putting out new material.
Is there anyone thatparticularly speaks to you?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So you know, I have a couple of Airbnbs in town
groovy Airbnb with consoles init and I have bands that stay
there quite often as they'replaying at the Sylvie and other
venues in town.
So every time they stay there Iget online and I start watching
them so I get a little exposureto that side of it.
We have a record listeningparty tomorrow for a new release
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from California Honey Drops,and I do like that bluesy folksy
.
I didn't used to, but I'm justtrying to expand my mind on it.
You know, I don't know ifthere's anything that I remember
that's overly popular, thatpeople would even know, but boy,
I've got a slate in my, in myplaylist of stuff that I've
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happened upon in the last sixmonths or so.
Yeah, but I'm way fond of.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I have finally, after about 10 years of crossing my
arm and determining that no goodmusic is being made anymore,
thanks to having a 22 year oldson who's a musician, has
introduced me to so much and Ifeel like I wasted all those
years of being sure that goodmusic stopped in about 95, right
, you know um kind of stuff.
So I I'm just always curiousfor folks again of our
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generation that have those sametouch points that I do what it
is today, because I've circledback and for me it's a lot of
what you would call alt-countryis the wrong word but the Jason
Isbells and the SturgillSimpsons and those kind of folks
that are making country musicbut with Chris Stapleton, all
that stuff, and maybe that's oldenough feeling to me, but there
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is good stuff out there stillbeing made.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
For sure.
We come across it all the time.
And then the other thing Ienjoy about my newborn life, now
that I have this vinyl storeout front, is we do deep dives.
Quite often We'll just throw onsomething for the heck of it.
International blows my mind.
It's amazing how much goodinternational music is out there
in Spain and France and Italy.
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I mean, we've heard it over thepast, but now, reigniting that,
it's pretty amazing.
We'll just sit there and saygosh, how have I not listened to
?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
any of this in so long that whole world beat kind
of stuff that's out there.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh it's crazy.
The.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
African filicute and all those people out there.
That yeah, yeah for sure.
And that's the beauty of musicand the worldwide aspect of it.
There's always something youhaven't heard.
I remember back when I was incollege Now I'm going to really
go down a wormhole with you hereRemember when Willie Nelson had
the movie Honeysuckle Rose, Doyou remember that?
And at that point I was arocker.
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That was the music that Ilistened to.
And I read a review in cream oryou know one of those magazines
that you listen to of the albumand it said good music is good
music regardless, you know.
And it went through and it saidwillie nelson makes good music.
And I kind of started torealize that if you're bigoted
towards you know two, if itdoesn't have two guitars, a bass
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, and you know a screaming leadsinger, it's not good.
And that opened up my eyes todoing all that stuff as well.
Going, you know, and there'scrappy music in the genre you
like too.
So just because there's crap insomething else doesn't mean
there's not good stuff in theretoo.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Right.
Well, our parents would alwayssay what the hell is that?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
crap, you're listening to.
Turn that record down.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
My father would always say your radio is broke,
let me buy you another one.
But I lived the same moment youdid In 78, I graduated high
school in New York and I go downto school in Texas.
So I come out of the heavy rockside of it.
In fact I was just talking withWill saying we used to go to
our bars you know where Armandis in New York and we'd see
Twisted Sister before they werereally Twisted Sister I, before
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they were a really twistedsystem.
I said that's the rocker sidethat I grew up with.
And then all of a sudden in 78,we got Saturday Night Fever,
going on the disco era, and Iend up in Texas and they don't
gently take me to countrywestern bars.
There is just nothing else.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
They have two kinds of music country and western.
Both types of music country andwestern.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
In fact, that's what my stacks are called over there.
We don't call it country West.
This is both types yeah, andyou know I was immediately
indoctrinated into all thecountry.
Western stars the Statlerbrothers yeah, and and, and, and
, and, and, and, and, and, and,and, and, and, and, and and.
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Okay, maybe if we turn thisinto a video podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That'll be session number two.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
There are pictures of me in that and with a shaved
head because I was in the Corpsof.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Cadets, oh gosh man.
Oh my goodness, that's a door.
I'm glad we just opened up.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm going to tell you .
Speaker 1 (19:17):
All right.
So let's take it now the reasonthat we're here today, joey's
son.
So For me, you're the idealperson to talk to, because it
combines your business and yourpassion together Absolutely, and
I just I know the answer tothis, but I want everybody
listening to listen to this.
So why is it that an event likeJoey's song resonates with you
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both personally andprofessionally?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
If I never met you, I would be doing this, I just
would.
I just feel like this is likepart of that vibe and groove,
except I didn't have a causethat steered me and spearheaded
me into it, except for you know,I don't want to say love of
people, but you find a cause, acause will come.
(20:03):
You know, if you believe insomething, a cause will come to
you.
But then when I met you andsome of the people on your staff
, it was like there it is.
I want to do this, but I'm notgoing to come gangbusters on
your door like I'm going to bein your face every single day.
Let me start with somesponsorships and do everything I
can do that you ever asked meto.
I think pretty sure you knowanyone that ever came to us like
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would you do this, Would you dothat?
I was like not only would I dothis, and that it's whatever
else.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I can do, this and that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Whatever I can do yeah, you know I believe in your
personal cause for this, Ibelieve in your authenticity for
it and then to do it withsomething that you know music
cures a lot of things.
I took a council down to Texasa year ago.
A friend of mine was recoveringfrom cancer and we weren't sure
(20:53):
he was recovering then.
Yeah, but I said I think musiccures cancer and I brought him a
console.
And I brought him a bunch ofrecords, 50 of my favorite
records Dark Side of the Moon,alan Parsons Project, half my
Bowie collection and wouldn'tyou know he got over cancer now.
He had great doctors and all therest of that.
(21:13):
But I just looked at it like,while you're at home fighting,
recouping whatever it is, here'syour console, yeah, and here's
your music, yeah.
And he hasn't returned thealbums yet.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
That shows he's in really good shape.
He's in really good shape.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
No for sure, we joke about it all the time, but I
always say music cures all, byand large.
This we know.
It's that common language.
The very first day I came intoSherman Terrace I had the door
open and I'm playing music.
I'm sitting outside recoupingfrom moving 28 consoles that day
and a guy walks up.
That was nonverbal and I don'tknow what the rest of his life
(21:50):
was about, but he sat there infront of my door and air
guitared and he looked at me.
That's amazing and it was kindof like gave me this.
I know this song, yeah, and wejust had this conversation yeah,
with air guitar in this.
Yeah, we spoke and off you went.
I just sat there like I'm onthe right thing.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, yeah, when you get that day one man, that a
that's the bluebird flying inthe window.
I mean, that's well.
You know.
You mentioned the cause andeverybody involved, and you know
, one of the things that we talkabout with Joey song is what we
do is deadly serious.
How we do it is not right.
What we're trying to do is stopthe suffering, stop people being
(22:27):
upended, stop young lives beinglost, but we do it in a way, I
think, that befits the spirit ofhaving music at the core of it,
which is that, that freedomthat comes with it, which is
that, um, I'm going to saylaissez-faire, but kind of in
the moment nothing matters in agood way, kind of stuff that
music brings, like your frienddown in texas, the reason you
(22:49):
can feel like it has a cause andeffect, kind of stuff is
because when you're in thatmoment that we've all have it,
no matter what kind of music youlike, we all know where you go
oh, this is the great part,right?
Whatever it is that you'relistening to, it's this guitar
solo or this vocal when you'rein that moment, nothing else
matters, and I think that'sthat's important.
When you're trying to eradicatethings that are not pleasant,
(23:14):
like epilepsy that takes lives,or cancer or any of the other
great causes out there.
So I I think you're spot onwith what you're saying and I
wish I could say that it wassome grand plan that I had, but
butch and I stumbled into thisand I'm okay with with that too.
So do you have now you've beento a couple?
Do you have a favorite memoryof the Joey Song events?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Oh, there's so many, you know, so if I rattle off the
top five, that's fine.
I love meeting Butch, havinghim bless a couple of my albums,
love meeting Charlie a fewtimes oh yeah.
Him remembering me screamingover the balcony the year before
bidding on the tackle box.
So it's getting a chance to beup close and personal with them.
(23:56):
I really loved this past yearand how that kicked off and how
that played out.
I think it was just a beautifulmoment that year.
As I told you this past year,congratulations, it was an
amazing event and I I don't evenbegin to fathom what's going on
in the upcoming year.
I keep looking at the podcastand your announcements.
Yeah, but last year was sospecial and, uh, my friends will
(24:20):
not long forget that yeah, yeah, there's.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
There's a lot of those one in a, one in a million
moments and if folks arelistening to this podcast, they
know what we're talking about.
But I wish everybody wouldleave with those kind of
memories that you talk about,because that's it, it's the
camaraderie, it's the feeling,it's the oneness, the stage and
the audience.
And it helps when people up onstage are really talented and
it's not you and me up theresinging, because that wouldn't
(24:43):
be good.
That would clear out a room.
Well, steve Paulette thanks fortaking the time to chat.
I am so envious of Groovy Woods.
You cannot believe I'veexpressed it to you before.
If you are listening to thisand you are of a certain age and
you can tell by the musicalreferences we've made what that
is, check out Groovy Woods,because it is uber cool.
So, steve Paulette, thank youfor your support.
(25:04):
Thanks for taking the time tochat today.
Mike, thanks for being you man.
Well, that's what I'm stuckwith.
My wife would disagree with youon that, but fair enough.
Thanks everybody.
Stay tuned for another episodenext week.
(25:25):
Thanks for joining us for theJoey Song podcast.
Remember to visit our website,joeysongorg.
Follow us on all our socialmedia handles which are at Joey
Song.
We'll see you guys at the show.
Oh geez, sorry about the record.
Scratch, wait a minute.
I forgot one thing.
If you want to help us spreadthe word about Joey Song and our
(25:46):
podcast, there's a few thingsyou can do that are real simple
that will help us.
One of the things you can do isfollow the show wherever you
get your podcast, give us afive-star review I mean, why
wouldn't you?
And write a review.
All of these things help ourpodcast and our cause get more
traction and seen throughout thecommunity.
And if you wanted to tell a fewfriends about Joey Song in the
(26:09):
podcast, that would be great aswell.
And, of course, you can visitjoeysongorg and follow us on
social media.
All of our handles are at JoeySong.
Okay, I think that's it.
We will see you guys at theshow.
Thank you.
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