The Quadcast - Prince Covers

Have you ever wondered how Prince's genius extended beyond his own performances and into the music of other iconic artists? On this episode of the Joey Song Podcast, we promise you'll gain a whole new appreciation for Prince's songwriting prowess and its impact on music history. From Cindy Lauper's vibrant rendition of "When You Were Mine" to Chaka Khan's electrifying "I Feel For You," listen as we unpack how Prince's original creations were transformed into chart-topping hits. Each cover not only highlights the artistic versatility of Prince but also showcases the incredible talents of the performers who made these songs their own.

Join us as we take a walk down memory lane into the colorful 80s music scene, spotlighting the magical synergy between Prince and the artists who brought his songs to life. The conversation continues with a humorous twist as we explore the unexpected pseudonym "Christopher" that Prince adopted when writing for the Bangles' "Manic Monday." This playful nod to anonymity didn't stop the song from skyrocketing the Bangles to national fame, blending their distinctive 60s pop sound with Prince’s signature flair. The track's infectious energy and catchy hooks were quintessential to the era, leaving an enduring imprint on pop culture and dance floors alike.

Behind every cover song lies a story of musical re-imagination and interpretation. We shine a light on the Bangles as exceptional interpreters of Prince's work, transforming his compositions with their unique flair while retaining the essence of his genius. Discover the challenges and triumphs of reimagining music from such a legendary artist, and enjoy some lighthearted anecdotes about the fascination with the creative process. As we explore these stories, we also reflect on the Joey Song Podcast's mission of supporting epilepsy research through music, including our cherished Freezing Man festival in Madison, Wisconsin. Join us for a blend of insightful discussions, humorous stories, and a celebration of the timeless legacy of Prince's songwriting.

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Hey everybody, welcome to theQuadcast, the Q-U-A-D-cast.

(01:23):
William and I are with youagain today and we're going to
run through four songs that havea connective tissue to them,
aren't we, william?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yes, and thank you for that spelling lesson right
out of the gate.
Well, you know, as long as it'swithin four letters.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I can usually get pretty close to it.
I'm just happy I didn't pull aquad.
Well, ice used the podcast, Iused that one down.
Yeah, you know, at my age, justhaving the quads work right
Called a victory.
That is yes, yeah.
So, for those of you that haveheard our quadcast before, what

(02:00):
we do is, as I said, we take atheme, whatever it might be
perhaps a writer, perhaps atopic, perhaps a musician and we
weave them together, not likeDonald Trump's weave that's a
different weave that he does butwe weave them together in a
story.
And today, william, what is ourconnective tissue?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
is our connective tissue.
Today, our connective tissue issongs that were written by
Prince and that other peopleperformed successfully.
Really and he had, and all ofthese had pretty big hits with
you could argue, many, if notall the uh big hit was actually
better than the original.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, I, I, I think that means me to say it as a
prince diehard but but you know,as all great writers, sometimes
, um, the genius is in creatinga craft, a song, a concept that
maybe isn't perfect for you.
And then some other I mean bobdylan there you can argue that
probably about it well, that ofcourse't perfect for you.
And then some other I mean BobDylan there you can argue that

(03:06):
probably about it.
Well, that, of course, thatdepends how you feel about Dylan
singing, but that's a wholedifferent topic for a quad cast.
But you could argue that someof most of the Dylan covers are
better than the originals too,because the, the materials there
, and then you can take andexpand it too.
And I think one of the thingsthat we'll probably talk about
is a lot of these songs thatwe're covering today came out of

(03:28):
his pure funk period and theywere embellished by some of the
recording stuff in the in the80s and 90s as well yeah, and
truly.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Part of the genius that you mentioned, I believe,
is him being able to select whowould be an artist that would
take this thing and bring itfive levels above you know, what
his intentions were.
So obviously we'll be gettinginto that as we get going here.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah.
So, that being the case, as wedo when it's appropriate on the
quad cast, we go inchronological order, and so we
are going to do that today and,william, you have the first one.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I do and it is definitely one of my favorites.
The song is when you Were Mineand it was by cindy lauper.
Yep, um, when you were mine wasoriginally recorded by prince
in 1980 off the dirty mind album, which was his third.

(04:34):
And, um, I honestly believe itwas the dirty mind album that
really started getting him a lotof radio play and really
started at least in in theminneapolis area started the
popularity rise.
Obviously he had already putout um his first, one of his

(04:56):
first albums.
Um, we talked about one of hisuh songs from the first album.
Actually I think we will betalking about that as well.
But anyway, when you Were Minereally helped catapult Prince's
name out into the popular souland funk charts.

(05:18):
All of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Again started getting .
Why do you think it wasn'tuntil his third album that it
really took off?
Do you have any theories onthat?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
um, you know, I think it was just more.
That whole album dirty mind wasjust very energetic, very uh,
much of uh.
I don't know if I would saydance, no, no, but just more
energy to it or whatever.
It'd be something you would hearmaybe more like in a club or
something, whereas I feel likethe first two albums were kind

(05:49):
of softer.
Yeah, um, you know, it's likehis whole career tells a story
and this is obviously at thebeginning of it.
But yeah, yeah, fair enough.
I would also say it was a greatprecursor to the next album,
which was 1999, which reallyshot them into fame.
But yeah, when you were mine,when it first came out on Dirty

(06:12):
Mind, it wasn't a single, no,but it just got a lot of radio
play and I think it's one ofthose songs that I think became
a little bit cultish and morepopular as as time went on.
Yeah, kind of the kind of thedeep track thing.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, oh for if you were an aficionado you knew that
song, whereas the the casuallistener might not have.
And it was covered by a handfulof folks.
We're going to talk aboutCindy's cover, but I know Mitch
Ryder and the Detroit Wheels dida cover of it, which that's a
pretty wide expanse from princeto cindy and mitch rider.

(06:52):
So and all in each of thoseversions was great in its own
way, which again is the kind ofthe kernel of the genius in
there.
When you can do it in kind ofthat detroit rock style of mitch
rider, you can do it in thevery 80s cindy lauper, cindy
version, and then obviously thethe funky jam style of prince

(07:14):
well, and I'll throw a fourthone in there, the chris cornell
version, and that's in the umseattle grunge, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
And yeah, another, just absolutely.
It's literally like we'll haveactually all four of those songs
will be on our podcast Spotifyplaylist and it's, it's amazing,
it's the same song.
It literally sounds like fourdifferent songs.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
So let's talk.
Let's talk about, let's talkabout Cindy's version.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yes, what?
When you, when you hear it, itit has a very 80s feel to it,
wouldn't you say, yeah, thewhole that whole album, um,
she's so unusual, uh, had whichhad when you were mine.
Obviously the big songs thatgot the most, um, acclaim, I
believe, were girls just want tohave fun and she bop, yep, but,

(08:07):
um, yeah, it was just, I mean,it's it.
To me it just screams, takesyou right back to 1980, whatever
it was, three, four, yep, um, Idon't know too many more songs
than that album really are.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Typify know of too many more songs than that album
really are.
Typify the 80s, um, as much inboth, both musicality and
fashion, too.
Right, I mean, cindy spawned awhole.
Yes, you know visual art aswell, and I also think you can
argue that she also taughtpeople not to take themselves so
seriously as well.
Right, thinking of I don't knowwe're talking about when you
were mine, but think about theother videos.
Think about girls just want tohave fun with all the wrestlers

(08:52):
in it, and right, um, she bop,which, uh, we'll try to make
this a family version, but that,you know, that's about a very
um, I don't know how you woulddescribe that topic tell us,
mike, what's that about?
yeah, so it's in the samecategory of turning japanese and
if that you don't know um, orblister in the sun by violent

(09:13):
femmes, and I'll leave it atthat but, she brought a very
much, even though she had somevery serious songs and when you
were, mine is a serious song, um, she brings a lightness to it
that really comes through, Ithink yeah, I agree, and just
the like everything she wasdoing, um, especially at that

(09:33):
time, but throughout her wholecareer.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
It's just so.
Her musics are just so catchyand so upbeat and just something
that you and engaging.
Yeah, yeah, that you just keepon when it's on the radio, you
know, turn it up.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Now I know as we go, we're going to go through a few
of the other songs as well, andit's always interesting when.
So Prince had obviously a veryandrogynous image and wrote that
way.
But it's really interestingthat his songs can be covered by
women, not have to change thegender, not have to change the

(10:08):
position, yet they're still veryinteresting, right, cindy's?
Cindy's version of this, youknow, captures a female
perspective on that same thingof not appreciating somebody.
You know, when you were withthem.
We don't really know, is younever doing any of prince song?
Is?
Are they apart?
Because he cheated, he cheated,she cheated, got to and none of

(10:30):
that matters with with herversion of of it as well.
And that's again the the geniusof prince um, one other fun
fact about the song.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Uh, I had the fortune of seeing Prince in concert.
Probably I've tried to do ahead count, but probably
somewhere in the neighborhood of50 times.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Amazing Plus or minus .
I never got to see a blind, soyou're 50 ahead of me.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
And I would say, at best I heard that song in
concert three of the 50 times.
Yeah, um.
However, I did hear it.
At the last time I had theopportunity to see him, which
was at rosemount uh theater, atrosemount horizon, whatever yep

(11:18):
that plays his ball.
That was the the last time Isaw him in concert and he did.
That was his like second tolast song that he played.
I was yeah, that's yeah, ofcourse, not annoying.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Maybe last time I'd see him but yeah, yeah, good
stuff, that's a it's, it's such,um, I'll keep going back to it.
I, I, you know there's the oldjoke that prince is the one guy
in makeup and high heels thatcould steal your girlfriend from
you, right, and but that's allpart of like I said, that the
whole androgyny and both how hecarried himself and how he wrote

(11:50):
, allowed people to do thatinterpretation and it just, you
know, cindy's version is verysynth heavy, right, it's got
that.
I'm sure there it's layered indrum machines.
I'm not expert enough to knowit, but it works.
It works in Prince's slowversion.
Again, I'm going to probablyend up saying that 400 times

(12:13):
during the course of thispodcast, but it just shows the
genius of his songwriting andthe depth thereof.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yep, do you have one other fun fact?
All right, I'm just full ofthem today, I guess.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yes, you are.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I was dating a girl in 1984-ish.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
That is a fun fact.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, it was Congratulations.
Yeah, finally over.
Yeah, anyway, she worked at adry cleaner.
It's the dry cleaner thatPrince went to and he'd bring in
his white you know white puffyshirts.
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, andthere was always like a dozen of

(12:52):
them or whatever.
She stole like two or three ofthem for me, seriously, yeah.
Now the interesting thing isthey were really really, really
small.
As was I at the time, and theywere women's shirts.
They buttoned backwards, yeah,so yeah, well, I.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
If you've ever been to the rock and roll hall of
fame, well, first of all, allthose big pop stars are, all
right, smaller of stature,jaggers, tiny, but you see the
there's.
The last time I was at the rockand roll hall of fame they had
had a whole display on SuperBowl halftimes.
Okay, nice.
And they had Prince's, whateverhe wore at that rain-soaked

(13:31):
Super Bowl and he was a littledude.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh, you mean the one he was the GOAT at, and it was
the greatest halftime.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't know if the exhibit said all of that, but
yes.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, I mean, it's not even close and anyone can.
If you want to get on thedebate stage and debate that
I'll go all day long on that one.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well, who else can summon up the rain?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
And then what I loved was, you know, he and his
dancers were all in high heels.
They described it as like anice rink out there, and they
went and asked him right beforehe went on, cause it really
started coming down, if you wantto cancel it?
Or not perform cause it wassuper dangerous, and he's like

(14:15):
the only thing I want is if hecould turn the rain up harder
make it rain more.
I'm like oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Amazing the man.
The man knew how to make anentrance and an exit and knew
how to do everything in betweenjust right as well.
Truly amazing.
Anything else you want to talkabout with when you Were Mine?
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I want to play it though right now, but I know, oh
, we can play a little bit.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
We'll play a snippet so we don't get in trouble with
the internet gods.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
And then a reminder if you want to hear the whole
song of any of the versions wediscussed, go to our Quadcast
Spotify.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yep, and you will hear it on there.
So a little bit of Prince whenyou were mine, or no, cindy,
when you were mine, and thenwe'll come back on the other
side, all right, I?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
love you more than I did when you were mine.
All right, that was awesomewhen you Were Mine.
Cindy Lauper, that song Couldlisten to that all day long.

(15:34):
Yep.
But we have other songs tolisten to and to break down.
I'm super excited about thisnext one.
You might remember it as itstarts a little bit like
Shaka-kan shaka shaka, shaka,shaka.
Con mike's doing the dance forall those guys don't see us on
the video.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
We're gonna make this a video podcast.
You're very fortunate you'renot seeing it too.
I might add my rapping and yourdancing yeah man, that's a lot
of whiteness for the live showyeah, yikes, yikes.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, no.
So this next song is, I FeelFor you, one of, probably the
one song that really goteverybody's attention about
Prince himself and was reallytaken 10 more levels beyond the
song itself when it was turnedover and recreated by Shaka Khan

(16:25):
.
Mike, what do you got to sayabout Shaka?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Khan.
So back at this was 84.
And at the time I was workingin a nightclub and we, besides
having bands, would have dancenight and, as you may guess,
this was absolutely a staplethis record and the 12 inch
dance remix and all the otherstuff that they used to do back
in the day, and it truly wasgroundbreaking in a million

(16:49):
different ways, and I think partof it was at least for in the
madison, wisconsin area I wasdoing it.
It was because it was chakakhan.
Right, rufus was from chicago.
You may not have known theirwhole catalog, but if, if you
can not tap your toe and get upduring tell me something, me
Something Good, there'ssomething wrong with you,
something wrong with your toe.

(17:09):
Yeah, exactly right.
So there was a predispositiontowards her stuff anyway.
But then in the mainstream, tohave the rap which here's your
quiz, william.
Do you know who's doing thatrap?
The Chaka Khan, chaka Khan,chaka Khan, chaka Khan.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I did and I don't.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Grandmaster Melly Mel , the Furious Five.
The Furious Five.
So now you wouldn't call therap integral to the song, but it
was part of the appeal.
I heard one time Neil Gerardo,pat Benatar's husband and
co-producer, said great songsyou recognize within the first
three or four seconds, which, ifI ever become a major recording

(17:53):
artist, I'm going to keep it inmind.
I'll let.
Yeah, but it was a mixture ofboth organic music and the
synthetic music of 84.
The organic music there's thatkind of that subtle harmonica
part to it.
Do you remember who plays theharmonica on that song?
I don't, it's a little StevieWonder.

(18:15):
Oh, yes, putting the harmonicaon it as well.
So not only do you have thesongwriting of Prince, not only
do you have the powerful vocalsof Chaka Khan.
Do you have the songwriting ofPrince?
Not only do you have thepowerful vocals of Chaka Khan,
but you have all these elementsof Stevie Wonder, grandmaster
Melly Mel, all of these amazingfolks putting it together and
really creating like a stew, ifyou will.

(18:36):
Right, that really wasn't onthe radio in those times, right?
You got to remember the sametime we've got Van Halen and
you've got lots of other stuffon, and then this kind of bolt
from the blue comes out in a waythat's just amazing and that's
why she was nominated for aGrammy in 85 for Best Female
Performance.
But it was a dance floor hit.

(18:57):
And then you layer on top of itbecause you have to remember
the times right, we were seeingmusic as much as we were
listening to it, and there was avideo simple, nothing fancy
showing her dancing around, butin kind of that urban setting.
That just kind of made it work.
And so I got to tell you, likeI said, as being somebody that
was working in the dance clubsat the time, that was absolutely

(19:20):
a staple, at least in middleAmerica yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, that song was, uh, the first one that prince
actually um, that got him on thedick clark show american
bandstand, yeah, yeah yeah, hehad just famously I've never
interviewed before super shyinterview right after that where
he could barely get two wordsout yeah, yeah, yeah which is so

(19:47):
funny to see you know now,after his career once once you
know who it is right.
But yeah that that actuallycatapulted him into the
spotlight and, like I said, uh,earlier, just I think chaka
khan's version took that 10levels further and I think also

(20:08):
helped his career quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I would think so, because I mean, if there was
ever a song that was written forthe dance floor, at least in
the eighties, that was it, youknow, because of all the
elements to it.
And it doesn't hurt to have thatvoice singing your words If're
a songwriter, right, right, Imean she, she can sing with the
best of them and is one of thebest of them.

(20:31):
And it was, uh, it was one ofthose moments in time and and
kind of, as you just referred to, if you could go back now with
history and look back, if you,if we knew what was to come from
prince out of all of that stuff, right, With 1999 coming, and
then obviously Purple Rain andworld dominance, it really was

(20:54):
the sampler, right, it was theappetizer, I think, for the mass
market, for him.
And then you couldn't turnaround without seeing Little Red
Corvette in 1999 and all ofthat other stuff.
It really really is amazingwhen you think about it.
But, like I said, having her,um, it just it was.
It's a perfect combination andthat's where you get that
lightning in a bottle kind ofthing right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
So great song, great um.
Great remake of the song and,yeah, brings you right back to
that years, those early 80syears.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I mean you can just go right back, right, right
right, the dance club, thediscotheque, whatever.
If I hadn't thought about it, Icould figure out this.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
You were dancing in back in the day.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I didn't really dance If I really took the time to
think about it.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Dj spinning the tunes versus dancing to the tunes,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
You know, if I really took the time to think about it
, I could probably remember thesongs that were often played.
Going in and out of that songtoo right, you tended to do the
same thing.
So really, really great, really, really great.
I don't think I have anythingelse to say on it other than it
was I know I mentioned it before, but it's that combination of

(22:08):
both the organic instrumentationplus the obvious electronics
that I can't think of any othersong at the time that was really
mixing those two thingstogether and I just it was
really great.
I guess I've gushed enough.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
There's no doubt about it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
All right.
So let's take a few minutes andlet's listen to a snippet of
Chaka Khan's version of I FeelFor you and, as William will
remind you, if you head over toour Spotify playlist, you can
also hear the Prince originalversion of it as well.
So, chaka Khan, take it away.
I Feel For you, let me rock youthat's all I want to do.

(23:00):
Let me rock you let me rock you,let me rock you, Let me rock
you.
Got the feel for you, the feelfor you.
Oh, I think, speaking of quadcast, William, I think I just
pulled a quad dancing to that.
It's a good thing that this isan audio podcast and not a video
one, because I don't think thefolks at home need to see me

(23:22):
hobbling around the studio.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
You think you're going to need a cast for your
quad oh wow.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to dad joke city.
Here we're here, we're here allday.
Yep, tip your wait staff, stickaround for the midnight show.
It gets a little blue.
So you, you are all very luckyyou didn't see me dancing to
that, but it's, it's such a,it's such a great song and the
production value of it.
Maybe we, you know, we shouldhave my son sam come on everyone

(23:49):
so because he's really intothat production stuff and he
could tell us why that's great.
Maybe we'll, maybe we'll dothat.
We'll do a top 10 produced songslist and I wouldn't be
surprised if that's on it but Iwill also tell you, I would also
tell you, if we did a top 10list of songs that everybody
knows from the 80s and can singand probably has some version of

(24:13):
the album, it would be thisnext song, which is uh, you know
this supposed to be a podcastabout songs written by prince,
but this, apparently song waswritten by a fellow named
christopher yeah, I'm gonna haveto ask.
I'm gonna have you explain thatto me, William.
How did this fit into thepodcast?
This is Manic Monday by theBangles.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Interesting.
We had to shoehorn this song inbecause it is on a technicality
.
There's this gentleman namedChristopher.
He also wore purple.
No um, we will get into that.
Yes, this is Manic Monday.
It is by.
Is by.
Originally written byChristopher aka Prince and

(24:53):
recorded by the Bengals in 1986.
It was definitely one of, asyou said, the defining pop hits
of the 80s.
Easily Off their second album,different Light, which I now
have, my sixth or seventhversion of another copy of the
vinyl.
Please tell me you have aneight track of it somewhere.

(25:15):
I may.
I'm not sure.
I have a box with about 10eight tracks left somewhere, I
don't know.
I've recently moved, I'm notsure where it is also did not
have an eight track player, soI'm not really like in a hurry
to find those either.
Um, but yeah it.
Uh, I don't know if it's fairto say it helped launch the

(25:39):
Bengals career, but it helpedlaunch the Bengals career.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Certainly certainly nationally.
I think at this point they werepretty well established on the
West coast, you know, as part ofthat Paisley underground scene
and all that other stuff thatwas going on there.
But I think it certainlycatapulted them on the national
scene easily.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
This ask a musician um down the road the question of
you know when you're writing asong.
You write a song, you record it, you lay it out there and stuff
.
How does your brain go topicking?
you know who would do reallywell with this yeah, you know

(26:24):
yeah, I mean, how do you getfrom point because, like I'm
thinking about, like, even ifyou wrote a book or you did
anything artistic and you'regoing to have somebody else be
the person that was yep, goingout and presenting that like,
how do you get from point a topoint b?
I just, to me that's absolutelyfascinating, because this is an

(26:44):
absolutely perfect song for thebangles, right, you know?
Right, I mean it.
Just between the song, thevideo, um, you know, it's a,
it's, it's very poppy hooky.
Um, right, just everythingabout it uh, had such a huge,

(27:04):
huge impact on pop culture atthat time.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Well, you know, and I think the other thing, getting
back to your how you interpret asong, whether you're on the
receiving end or the giving end,is, I don't think Prince would
have recorded it with kind ofthat jangly, rickenbacker,
beatle-y sound that the Banglesdid.
Right Now, the keyboards on thesong to me sound like something
prince would do, but the cop,the guitars don't, and and and

(27:30):
certainly the the drum has muchmore of a percussive 60s almost
feel, which was in a lot of thebangles music at that time,
which, again, if, if there was aswear jar for every time, I
said that's the genius ofprince's songwriting, I'd we
could pay for a keg party afterthis.
But that's the genius ofPrince's songwriting is you can

(27:52):
take a song that probably has asoulful genesis and take it and
turn it into a 60s jangly popthing, yet not lose that
keyboard thing.
It's spectacular, it wasabsolutely perfect for them and
I I will um fight anyone if yougot, since we're fighting people

(28:15):
for who is the greatesthalftime thing.
I will also fight anyone whosays to me that, um, the bangles
are not one of the greatestinterpreters of other songs as
well, because whether it's Paul,the Paul Simon covers, that
they did a jewel sheer cover,that they did all of these
amazing songs going down toLiverpool and I'm blanking Kim

(28:38):
Foley song, all these amazingsongwriters.
They would take these songs andliterally make them their own,
and that, and that's what theydid with Prince, which had to be
intimidating as all get out togo.
Oh, you're going to give usthis song you never recorded.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Gulp yeah, yeah and and again.
You've already uh promisedmyself, as well as our listeners
, that I'm not going to be ableto get anywhere near the uh
peterson sisters at the upcomingevent which, by the way, they
will be at in january yeah, no,actually extra security for you,

(29:10):
william to keep right, butmaybe you could uh sneak in a
question for me.
I'll write it on a post-it notefor you so you don't forget.
Um, it would be alsofascinating to like hear how do
you you know, prince the genius,you, when you said how

(29:30):
intimidating that would kind ofbe how do you get that song and
then just reimagine it?
I'd love to hear right like abackstory on that, if there is
one or whatever.
Like how does that?
how did it happen that it justbecomes like, so different and I
, are these people just thattalented that they hear that?
And they're like, oh, if I weredoing that just a little

(29:52):
different, I would do this howdo they get?
To the genius.
That is the remake.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
And again when the person giving you the song is
Prince, right.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Right you.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
The song is prince right it right.
Who at that?
Who at that point was now usingpen names for his song so that
it wouldn't overshadow the cover?
I mean, that's the reason whyhe did release things as the
family or as christopher as allthese other things you know.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Speaking of that, um, let's just see, I have a, a
list, and I did this off the topof my head, without using the
internet, but I have a list ofsome of prince's nicknames and I
want to see how many of thoseyou can, uh, come up.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Well, I think I, I think I've already uh blown my
uh larder on that one, andthere's a phrase I never thought
I'd use in public yeah, um, inwith christopher and the family.
Other than that, I mean I Iknow he was basically the time
and there were some of thoseother things, but I don't think
I know any more other than thosetwo, christopher and the family

(30:57):
well, that's why I'm here, mike.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I'm going to share a couple of them with you.
He, of course, was known to alot of his followers as his
royal badness.
Yep, yep, I mean.
You know, you're a good artistwhen you got.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Absolutely.
Absolutely During the contractissues with Warner Brothers,
when he was walking through lifeas a symbol, oh yeah, that's
when you know and people arekvetching over how do we
pronounce it what most peoplewould you get ignored?
And, yes, everybody was yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, that was the best part.
I thought nobody knew what tocall him, right, like when you
would see him starting aninterview.
They'd be like uh like tonguetied Right, Um, but then it
turned into with that one.
It turned into the artistformerly known.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Later, after that that's because that's that's a
mouthful, that's a long time hewas simply known as Taff Cap,
which is the artist formerlyknown as Prince, the acronym for
that.
He was the Prince of Funk.
Yeah, growing up before he, Ibelieve before he got his

(32:11):
probably not his first guitar,well, maybe before he got his
first guitar.
This was when he was reallyyoung, pre-high school.
His nickname was Skipper and Idon't know the backstory on that
.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Boy, there's got to be a good one.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, got to be a good one We'll have to get our
crack research team on it.
Yeah, our executive producer onthat.
He was known as the high priestof pop.
Yeah, uh, the purple one?
Yeah, um, alexander, nevermind,and I got to do a little bit of
research on that as well.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, I know I do remember how he used her and
what circumstance he used thatone?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I don't.
I do know that alexandero'neill was involved with him in
his band of yep fine folks fromminneapolis at one point there,
but not really sure.
Um, I believe it might havebeen on a shana easton song, but
I'll look that up and okay, allright.
Um, there's camille.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Oh yeah, I did now now that you're saying these
things, they resonate, but Iwouldn't have been able to pull
them out of thin air.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I actually made a a song list with all the songs he
actually sang in the camillevoice yeah, bizarre voice.
Um, jamie, you've heard that.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, reference that in some lyrics.
And, of course, the symbol,which is really just the male
female symbol.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah yeah, quite a few nicknames for for that man.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
You know.
That's when you know you'recool is when even your 24 alter
egos are cool.
That's exactly that's whenyou've reached.
That's when you've reached anew level.
Um, but I think the other thinggetting back to manic monday
and the bangles is it's the.

(34:01):
The beauty of, again of hissongwriting is it's such a
simple concept to write a songright.
This, this stinks, right.
I got to get up.
I was just having a good dream.
You know, last night he or she,whoever I was with, was who
doesn't work Right, cause I haveto be the breadwinner and

(34:21):
employment's down.
I mean, only he can take whatis a mundane, ordinary thing and
turn it into that confectionarythat is so great.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
And the gals in the bangles did such a great job
with it.
They really did.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
They did such a good job that that song catapulted
all the way to number two on theBillboard Hot 100 in the United
States.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
How could it be only number two?
What would possibly?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
keep it up, I know, uh, do you remember what it was?
I know, you know, basicallyyeah I, I do, but I'll I'll.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I won't ruin your surprise.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Tell william I will tell uh, number one.
The whole time it was numbertwo and crawled all the way up
to number two was another songby prince called kiss.
Yeah, amazing, such a brilliantnot that we're talking about
that song today, but what abrilliant song, like it was done
.
And then he goes.
You know what?
Let's take the bass out and seewhat happens.

(35:19):
Yeah, yeah, they're like what.
Yeah, that doesn't make anysense, right yeah, I would have
loved a bit of fly on the wallthere.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, yeah.
First of all, I'm going to tellyou nobody said to him at that
point.
That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yes, they're just thinking that in their head and
then all of a sudden they hearit and they're like, ah, that's
why he's the genius.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
That's why he's the thing you and I have talked
about this as we've beenplanning out these podcasts is.
You know we can do hundreds ofepisodes on Prince.
I would also like to have beena fly on the wall when he was
walking the band through theinstrumentation of when doves
cry.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
No, it's going to be a big,it's going to be a big hit
Really and it was tremendous.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I would also have loved to have been a fly in the
wall in some of the meetingsthat he was having with Warner
Brothers, because from all thedocumentaries and things I've
seen, they were just like whatthe heck do we do with this guy,
other than count the cashthat's coming in the back door
every time he touches something?

(36:25):
But just way, way, way ahead ofhis time?
Uh, I, I don't know.
I I would really like to find,uh, an overall musician, single
person musician, that is moretalented than him right, and I
mean Right.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
No, that could do all of those things.
Have you ever been to PaisleyPark?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
You know, oddly enough, I have not.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
On my bucket list.
I have heard that it's worththe trip.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
They had a lot of shows.
I know he recorded a couple ofthem.
They were called A Piano and aMicrophone where he played yeah
at paisley park, yeah on hisgrand piano and stuff, and he
would literally just play songson the piano and sing yeah for a
show.
And I can't even imagine howawesome that would have been.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
But I yeah, I I'm not gonna name drop, but there's a
a pretty big band that I'mfriends with and they recorded
an album up there and said itwas pretty phenomenal it was all
that, yeah, yeah, um.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
And then, yeah, of course, who wouldn't love to?
Um, get a look, see inside that, that vault, the vault, the
vault, just to see the dearth ofstuff that's rumored to be in
there.
I mean, I've heard anotherlifetime yeah, at least and it's
just.
It's a real shame that hisextended family can't get their

(37:59):
you know what together?
together, yes um and figure out,because I mean I, you know, I
don't know, I don't really knowhow I feel about it, but just
being a fan, I think I thinkfans should have the opportunity
to hear stuff like that, yeahbut the flip side is if he
didn't want it to go.
I mean, who knows what hisintentions were, and whether

(38:21):
you're clear about that, or not.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
this is a great topic and I I would this again.
It could be another podcast,but I'm a Beatles obsessive and
back in the 80s and I thinkthey've figured out how it all
happened, but basically all oftheir stuff leaked out, all the
demos and all the first andeighth, which is why they put

(38:43):
out anthology, and I thinkthey've just they figured out
what had happened.
There was one of theirbiographies the guy that was
putting together their studiodiary book which was coming out,
which is what, what happened oneach day when they were
recording at Abbey road, wassick at the time and so they
would messenger the tapes overand they believe the messenger

(39:05):
would make a stop and they'dcopy all that stuff.
Um, and I eat it up.
I I love, because I have not acreative bone in my body and to
hear you know lennon's firststrumming of you know strawberry
fields oh yeah or you know thethe to the, it just to me.

(39:27):
I'm not an artist, so I don'tknow how I'd feel, but I, I, I
can't imagine for somebody likePrince or McCartney, even if
there was two hours of him doingarm farts you know where you
wouldn't want to at least hearit go.
What was he trying to do withthis?
This?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
right, yeah, the beatles stuff you speak of.
There's um spent some recentdocumentaries on the beatles and
whatnot and it's amazing to me,this many years after they were
doing their thing, that newvideos coming up all the time
and it is so fascinating just tosee them approach writing a

(40:06):
song, the four of them sittingdown and just the banter that
they have back and forth and allthat I mean.
That's that to me.
Maybe it's because I'm gettingold, I don't know, but that to
me is like as exciting as themusic, absolutely.
A lot of cases here in thestories behind how it came to be
To show to show how much I needtherapy.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I once bought a cassette tape, a 90 minute
cassette tape of 23 differenttakes of strawberry fields.
That's all it was on it.
I've got one that's got like 17versions of she said.
She said right, you know so.
So, to get back to yourquestion, I don't know how
Prince would feel about it, butI think once your legacy is

(40:48):
solidified, as you know, a MountRushmore kind of candidate, I
think it's probably okay.
Maybe you don't want the onewhere you know he was half drunk
or whatever and couldn't do it,but I don't I.
I can't imagine that it wouldbe anything but enhancing his
career to hear some of the stuffin the vault, the finished

(41:11):
stuff and then the path fromfirst chords to the final
production.
But that's because I'm a fanand I just would love to hear it
.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, and you know, to that end too, and obviously
depends on the era and stuff.
But like the revolution is theoriginal members of the band the
revolution are still together,still performing.
Yeah, um, so if there were somesongs that weren't a hundred
percent finished, you know,maybe they get involved or right

(41:41):
right, you know, actually Idon't think there's any.
I'm sure there's.
I'm not thinking of one or two,but very few of the musicians
in his orbit that he played withthat aren't still performing.
So, yeah, you know, which is alittle different than, like when
the Beatles had those two songs.

(42:01):
They were looking to finish up,but they did have Lennon's
voice that they could use and,by the way, I thought were
thought were magnificent.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, those, those songs yeah, well, and I'm a, and
I'm a huge beatles guy and andpaul is my mozart.
But I don't believe for asecond that they didn't get a
little help from ai on those,because those last couple, those
last couple songs came from thesame tapes that um free as a
bird and real love came fromwell that's what I was talking

(42:32):
about.
Those two songs, oh yeah, Ithought, and then they did this
most recent one.
Whether it's not now and then,or whatever, right, right, yeah,
yeah, a couple years ago yeah,and, and they declared that no,
no, no, there was just bettertechnology to separate the
vocals.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, which man yeah I don't know and I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I don't particularly care, because it's his song.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, I'm the kind of guy that would do arm farts and
think it's awesome, so I yeah,I totally, completely agree, and
I just uh, you know these, Imean I guess we're we're picking
.
We're talking about Prince andthe Beatles right now.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Right, right, yeah, can't we talk about?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
goat moment here.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Can we talk about some better musicians in that?
So you are a Minnesota boy, yougrew up in the area.
You have to have a story or twoof Prince, besides the your
girlfriend in the shirts, uh, uh, and, and keep in mind, we're
probably going to do Prince inabout 10, 10 more episodes going

(43:33):
forward, but is there one storythat you would want to tell
about Prince?
Sure Brush with greatness or anamazing moment?
You saw him 50 times.
You had to have seen something.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I mean there's.
There's so many.
I'll tell two.
One will be very quick.
Um, one was he was playing.
They had the um special olympicsworldwide special olympic, like
olympics was at the metrodome,um, where I was working, and I
was working for the twins andvikings at the time and I knew

(44:06):
prince was going to berehearsing and we could just
walk the twins and Vikings atthe time and I knew Prince was
going to be rehearsing and wecould just walk from our office
up to the field and hang out andwatch him.
So I'm standing there, I'm a 16, 17 years old standing there by
myself out on the fieldwatching Prince rehearse.
He's yelling at people and, um,everybody's laughing cause he's

(44:28):
so short, you know, and justlike whatever.
There weren't that many peoplethere and all of a sudden, this
woman walks up and is standingright next to me and I'm
completely into this rehearsaland she looks over and she goes
he's awesome, isn't he?
And I look back at her and I'mlike, like I couldn't speak.

(44:48):
It was.
It was Kirstie Alley in hercheers days.
Oh, she was there, just like Idon't know.
Sure I don't know if she hadpart.
That was part of the openingceremonies.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, who knows, who knows yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Whoa, I mean, I was.
I was a boy, that was 17.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, and after that you were 19.
Yes, I get it Exactly.
Yes, so there's that.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
But my absolute favorite one.
I just started a new jobdowntown Minneapolis.
We're going to Timberwolves aTimberwolves game and I was with
a colleague of mine and we wentout to dinner beforehand and my
company had rented a suite.
I just started there, so I'm alittle bit nervous.
Hadn't even met everybody I wasworking with and we're walking

(45:33):
from the dinner to the arenawhere the Timberwolves play.
And we walked by this buildingand it was a recently opened
Glam Slam Prince's Bar, yeah,downtown in the Warehouse
District, which has no doors andno windows, by the way, or had
yeah.
So we're standing out in frontof it like wondering what does

(45:53):
it look like inside?
It's obviously it was locked.
Sure, maybe we'll wait a coupleminutes Just see if it, if it
opens, just to peek inside, justout of curiosity.
Well, we're standing therewaiting for about 15 minutes and
all of a sudden there's likethree or four people that are
also standing there waitingbehind us and we're sort of
forming a line.

(46:13):
I'm like whatever, nobody,nobody seemed to know what was
going on and we just I mean itwas beautiful out and we just
were standing there talking,hanging out, and then a guy
comes out out, a bouncer fromthe bar and he goes just to let
you know.
Now there's probably maybe 10people out there milling around

(46:34):
just to let you know he's.
He's playing tonight.
It's going to be $10 to get in.
Um doors are gonna open in ahalf hour, okay so we're like oh
shoot, what do we do?
yeah, gotta, I got the workthing.
Yeah me, me more so than her,because she had been with the
company for a while.

(46:55):
I'm like I don't know if I canskip out on the work thing.
You know I don't get in trouble.
She's like I'm not going backthere.
Um, we did find out you had topay ten dollars.
We're gonna originally we'regonna buy tickets, just get like
10, 15 tickets and see ifanyone wanted to come back with
us, but you literally had to payand walk in.
Uh, long story short, it turnsout it was a rehearsal for his

(47:18):
upcoming tour, which I want tosay was the alphabet street tour
, and he played.
Um, the first set was aboutthree hours.
There was a lot of starting andstop.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
The first set was three.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
First set the first set.
Yeah, you heard me right.
Three straight hours too.
No, no breaks, nothing otherthan occasionally.
He would start and stop songsbecause it was a practice and it
was the first time they wereplaying some of them, so you'd
be, like you know, turn the onthe one, you know, yeah, yeah
whatever right and um.
So that was awesome.

(47:52):
It was really cool and fun.
Oh and, by the way, there wasonly I don't remember how many
people they let in, but let'ssay it's a bar bar that could
easily hold 300 people.
Maybe they let in 100 and juststop, god private concert
basically.
So I literally could walk up andI did walk up to the bar, get a
drink, walk from there to thestage, put my drink on the stage

(48:15):
and go to the bathroom and comeback and my drink would still
be on this.
I mean, it was like that.
Yeah, it was.
I'm not, it was.
It was like watching somebodywho no one's ever heard of.
And then he ends, he thankseveryone, he apologizes for all

(48:36):
the starting and stopping.
He was explaining about thepractice and just how they're
still learning parts of thesongs and stuff.
And then he said if you don'tmind, I'm going to take a quick
10-minute break and then I'mgoing to come back and play the
hits.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
And were people complaining?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
They said no, don't yeah no, yeah, I got to go.
It's already 9.30, 10.
I got to jump.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I got to catch the last quarter of the Timberwolves
game.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I'm like I didn't even realize.
I'm like, oh my God, he hasn'tplayed like anything off of you
know, the 1999 or Purple Rain oranything yet you know.
And then it just started.
It was like, oh my God, I don'teven believe this.
You know it was just because ofthe lack of people there.
The uh, you know that would beone If you could get a tape of

(49:30):
that one right off the board.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I was just going to say that those are the, those
are the ones that you, ifthey're not going to open the
vaults, then give us that.
Right, Right, yeah, Cause I Iwould assume all that stuff was
recorded because if he found anymagic he would want to
recapture it Absolutely.
Yeah, this is probably not thething.
We'll save it for a future one.

(49:52):
But I know you know the story.
You probably know the story ofpurple rain and that riff, the
solo.
There's a, there's some videoson that, that show the extended
version that was recorded thatnight and the expression that
was not part of the thing, andhe finds it during the show and
you can see the look you know.
So I would assume, and that'swhat they use too, right Right.

(50:16):
Exactly, and there's some videosthat will show you right where
it was cut and right where itcame back in it.
Miraculous, but I would assumethat he recorded all that stuff.
I think they recordedeverything.
Yeah, miraculous, but I wouldassume that he recorded all that
stuff.
I think they recordedeverything, yeah.
So so if you're listening up inpaisley park and I'm sure they
are if you could just go aheadand release the live you know

(50:37):
the rehearsals we'll take that.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
if you're not going to open the vault yeah, and if,
if it would be easier for you,mike and I will come up there
you could give us a quick tour,because we've never been before.
Well, we'll pay for it, even,sure, yeah whatever, yeah yeah,
and then you could just give usthe stuff there.
We'll have a small truck withus right.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Trust us, we'll take good care of it we'll take good
care of it.
Yeah well, I knew you'd have tohave some good print stories oh
, I have many more.
Many do well, I think we canfind other reasons for him to be
our topic in some futurequadcast.
So, why don't we take a minuteand listen to Sue and Vicki and
Debbie and Michael sing ManicMonday, and then, when we come

(51:16):
back, we'll do our fourth songof the quadcast, and I think
there'll be some goodconversation around this as well
.
So, vicki, sue, debbie, take itaway Bangles Manic Monday
already made.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
It's just another manic monday.
That song excites me so muchfor this upcoming event that we

(52:03):
have coming up in January.
Mike, do you want to tell us alittle bit about Joey's Song,
the dates please?

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Oh sure.
So for those of you that arenew to all of this, vicki
Peterson and Debbie Petersonfrom the Bengals are Joey's Song
regulars, so they come everyyear and play our benefit.
And this year we have expandedJoey's song and the Bangles.
Vicky and Debbie are going todo a full Bangles set during the

(52:30):
week leading up to the Joey'ssong concert on January 11th.
So on January 10th Vicky andDebbie, along with Jane Weidland
from the Go-Go's yes, rock andRoll Hall of Famer, jane
Weidland from the Go-Go's andGail Greenwood, the bass player
from Belly, are going to performa full Bangles set with all
these Bangles songs and all theBangles hits, and some of them

(52:54):
like in a lot of cases, likelast year when we had them and
they came and played.
They played Hero Takes a Fall,which is a Bangles song that
Vicki wrote but never sangbecause it was a Sue song.
So last year she sang it livefor the first time ever at our
little thing, and I think you'llprobably see more of that this
year in January when Vicki andDebbie and the friends play an

(53:18):
evening of bangle songs.
It's going to be freaking great.
So, joeysongorg, to get yourtickets I would suggest you get
them quickly, because they justwent on sale this week and I
don't think they're going to besitting around long.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
And I am working on something.
I haven't completely baked itall out yet, but something for
our show, uh, as a, you know,like a, a prize that people can
apply to win.
I again working on thelogistics, but it's.
It's basically going to be whento be win a dream date with Sir
William.
At the event.
It'll be what I'd like to callalmost VIP-like event.

(53:53):
We'll get to maybe meet somepeople not Vicki and Debbie,
because I've been banned, yep,although the person who would be
my date.
We might be able to side.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
That would be fine.
We can get them past security.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
They could maybe meet with them or whatever.
But we'll get that all buttonedup down the road.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Instead of VIP, it would be SIP, a somewhat
important person.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Or an almost important person, an AIP.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Adjacent important person.
Yes, an AIP, there you go, yeah.
Adjacent important person.
Yeah, there's so many thingsthat we can do with this.
That would be great.
Yeah, we're still flushingthrough the deets on there, but
thank you for giving me thechance to talk about it.
If you are a Bengals fan, thiswill be a one-off that you will
never see again, and the gueststhat will be joining them will

(54:45):
make it really special.
I'll take it a step further.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
If you're a music fan , this is an event you'll never
be able to see again.
Even if you were there lastyear with me or with Mike, you
won't be able to see that showagain, and it'll be different
this year and it's kind of likethis is the greatest show on
earth.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
So it's not the circus, but it's the greatest
show on earth.
So it's not the circus, butit's the greatest show on earth.
Well, backstage it can be kindof a circus, but that's for
another podcast, right?
So what do we have for our lastsong, sir william, in our song
and boy.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Last night I um hosted a a um an event to raise
money for the alz Alzheimer'sfoundation, yep, which you
thought maybe would have helpedme a little bit, but I can't
remember the horse.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Nothing compares to you.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
My favorite, okay, I knew it was right there, I was
on the tip of my tongue.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
No, that was it was actually a perfect setup, so
some of the money you raisedlast night will be going towards
you.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Towards research.
For me down the road.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yes, Nothing compares to you Such an absolutely great
, great song.
You know what I think I made amistake earlier in the show you
did and I wasn't going tocorrect you.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Yes, okay, the Chris Cornell comment.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Yeah, it was kind of late night last night at this
event.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Yeah, yeah, so that'd be Chris Cornell, who sings
another version of NothingCompares to you.
Yeah, as well as our nextartist that we'll be introducing
here that took a song writtenby Prince and turned it into a
worldwide smash and also thelaunch point of her career, and
that would be my sister fromacross the pond, sinead O'Connor

(56:37):
.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I will not do my Irish accent.
I will save you all on that.
I can't imagine there's anybodythat listens to this song and
watches that video that isn'tmoved.
And it's another example almostthe opposite of what we were
talking about with what bothChaka Khan and with what the

(57:00):
Bangles did.
Sinead basically stripped thisdown as opposed to built it up
like it.
If you hear the Prince original, which is available online, you
can hear it.
I think it's on that originalCD where he did a lot of it's
called Prince Originals.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
It's also going to be on our Spotify list.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
His version is bombastic a little bit.
I don't know if it's bombastic,but there's boom, boom, boom,
boom kind of stuff to it andit's.
It's more of a powerful, asonically powerful, where hers
is more emotionally powerful.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Hers is very sparse.
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
You know, and that's, that's the difference.
And the video is just basicallya headshot.
I haven't gone back to look atit to see if it's a continual
headshot or not.
I think it is, but it justthat's it.
It's basically her lip syncingthe words to it and by the end
there's tears coming down herface and it's amazing.

(57:58):
I think the thing for me aboutboth this song and, for the 95th
time, the genius of prince, isthe song without any lyrical
change.
There's a few little tweaksthat shenaid makes to.
It works as a.
In my interpretation, prince'sversion is he screwed up and

(58:21):
lost the girl.
That's that my interpretation.
Sinead's version to me is shewas cheated on and someone left
her.
Exact same song, exact samelyrics, everything else about it
, but the way that it's arrangedand the vocal performance and
all that.
I don't know if that's right ornot.
I don't know if that's whatPrince was thinking or that was

(58:42):
what Sinead was thinking, butthat to me is you know, know,
prince is like I really screwedup, and so now I just go out
every night and I sleep all daybecause I really should have
done better and hers is why didyou leave me?
And I'm stranded and I'mfloundering.
And again, that's that's thebeauty of great songwriting.
I mentioned it earlier when wewere talking about Manicay plus.

(59:05):
There's nothing complicatedabout any part of this song.
There's nothing complicatedabout the lyrics.
Nothing compares to you.
That's basically it and it.
It carries more power andemotion than some you know
extremely complex wording, andthat's that's.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
That's the power of it yeah, her voice is just so I
can't think of a like haunting,like yes, good way absolutely
love.
I'm actually going to play itright after we hang up probably
that in a little emperor'sclothes, just for you know, for
fun.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
But yeah, there is a, a shakiness in her voice that
there is on everything.
If you listen to Mandinga andsome of her other um hits, that
really hits hard on this songand I I it's not that kind of
you know what the kids do todaywith the gravering and all that

(01:00:04):
other stuff it's, it's subtle inher voice yeah and it just it.
It packs more emotion than justabout anything you.
You can, you can do, but again,if you, if seeing that close up
of her face we've said thisbefore in those days you would
see the music as well as hear it, right, and that you can't
watch that video and not bemoved.

(01:00:25):
You just can't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
It's impossible.
Do you think she's more knownfor that or for her antics on
Saturday Night Live?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Well, yeah, good question.
It depends on how you definewell-known In the music
community.
She's admired for her antics,not because you agree or
disagree with what she did, butthe fact that she stood by her
principles, knowing it wouldruin her career, at least here
in the U?
S and in lots of places in theworld.
For those that don't know, uh,a performance on Saturday night

(01:00:58):
live.
She pulled out a picture of thePope at the time.
I think it was John Paul thesecond said something about
fighting the real power, orsomething like that, which is
amazing when you understand thatshe was an ordained minister.
I don't know if at the time butbecame one.
So religion I don't know if youknow this or not, but in
Ireland it's a pretty big deal.

(01:01:19):
I don't know if you know that ornot, william, I sure do yeah,
I'm sure you do, and so sheripped it up on TV and it caught
.
You know they cut away and itwasn't planned and everything.
So I know in the music businessshe is admired for taking a
stand in a community wherethat's very important and

(01:01:39):
praised, right.
That's the whole idea of beingan artist to present.
Now in the greater community.
She's probably known forripping up a picture of the Pope
because it's a stunt and we alllike controversy and all that
other stuff.
So I don't know, I don't knowthat probably those probably
level each other out on whatshe's better known for.

(01:02:00):
But I know I will tell you thatwhen she passed last year year
before, I don't remember exactlywhen it was and we were putting
together the Joey song playlist, it was not even a question.
Whether we would do nothingcompares to you.
It was going to happen, becauseI know that everybody on that
stage felt that way.
Yeah, I think, by the way, for afuture show is somebody writing

(01:02:24):
all these down, cause I thinkwe've come up with eight
different topics today.
I know I will.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I'm gonna write.
Oh, by the way, nobody's gonnaenjoy this except you, but I
have a quad cast oh, binder wowwith the logo and I'm saving all
the show notes, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
We're like watching this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
We're like big boys, william.
I was watching this documentarythe other night.
It was John Gruden, thefootball coach, yes, and he his
wife, was so sick and tired ofhim having his friends over
talking about watching like gamefilm and just talking football
and stuff.
She's like you got to get thiscrap out of our house.

(01:03:09):
So he said, fine, I'm going torent a place then.
So he went and rented abuilding.
He's got like all thesedifferent rooms.
He's got the green bay packerroom, the san francisco yeah,
everywhere he worked and he goesin there for different things,
but he has these binders withevery game plan he's ever
written and he walks up to theshelf and he pulls out.

(01:03:31):
This is the, this is the gamethat uh, so-and-so got hurt, was
it mckowski got?

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
hurt and then far came in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Yeah, yeah you know, and then, and then he never,
never went back out after that.
And you know, I mean he's likegot the whole, like all the
plays right there and I was justlike that's pretty cool, I'm
going to do that with our show.
Um, so I will.
Yeah, so I'll write this down.
But anyway, I don't know if wecan weave this in and if it even
makes any sense, but I wouldlove to have a show where we

(01:04:00):
talked about the topic of whatwas I asking about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Sinead and ripping up the pictures of the Pope.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
The topic about musicians and their platform.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
And how they used it, for good or evil.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Obviously, the most biggest recent example was
Taylor Swift endorsing acandidate for president and like
what kind of impact that may ormay not have.
Right, I would just be.
I'd be fascinated to have aconversation with you, whether
it's on the show or not, but Ijust think it's a very, very
interesting time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
There's been a handful that we could just do
saturday night live on itself.
Because, uh, elvis costellovery famously got banned for
like 20 years because he didn'tplay the song he was supposed to
and went into radio radio andso, yeah, that that's a, that
that's a great topic.
That would be a, that would bea fun one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
I mean it's, it's to me it's uh like I won't get into
how I totally feel, but there'sso many of these artists that
and it's high risk for them,especially given today's world.
Like you too, you know there'sa political side to every one of
their shows springsteen, right,you know a lot of these guys
and it's kind of like I franklyit doesn't bother me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
I you know, I don't care what side somebody's on, if
they do it.
Well, for me it's the opposite.
For me, I just feel like if Iknow that somebody is not of a
persuasion that appeals to me, Idon't get mad.
I just don't listen or watch orgo to or buy tickets to, as

(01:05:42):
opposed to getting all up inarms and I can give you the list
of all the folks right now thatI you know you couldn't pay me
to go see but as opposed totrying to cancel them if.
If people want to go see TedNugent, God bless, you just stay
away from me, Right, and andand.
So that's okay and that's wherewe get back to.

(01:06:04):
And now we're really going to gooff quick, tangent.
Here.
It's OK to differ with somebodyon it.
It's when there's a violentundertone to it or an enemy
flavor to it, which Ted's aperfect example of.
It's not just that he's aconservative, Ed, it's that he's
also violent and you know allthe gun nut.

(01:06:25):
It's that he's also violent andyou know all the gun nut.
Well, yeah, that's a wholenother topic.
So I'm, I'm with you.
That would be, that would be afun topic to do.
Um, and shenaid is a perfectexample of somebody that decided
to stick with it and knowingthe cost right and is so
talented.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
I mean, that's another.
There's so many sides to thatwhole topic.
Absolutely other side is whatrisk are you putting your career
in right, going that you knowgoing so far?
right right yeah, michael jordanfamously right the republicans

(01:07:03):
buy sneakers too, right, and soI'm not really gonna let people
know which way I'm leaning orwhatever, which I agree with,
and I was actually my thought.
When everybody was calling fortaylor swift to endorse kamala
harris, I was thinking, well,they're you know, republicans,

(01:07:24):
listen to your music too.
But I sort of feel like she'simmune to that, like she's
bigger than that, like I don'tthink it matters at all.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Yeah.
And and and, realistically,most of the entertainment
business is of a progressivepersuasion.
Anyway, we know the ones thataren't um, because they're on
Fox news every three hours,because there's like seven of
them they're certainly notperforming at the republican
conventions or anything.
No, and I will not be other thanlee greenwood yeah, and I will

(01:07:54):
not be ripping off my shirt likethe hulkster.
Um, so I, yeah, I it's a, it'sa.
It's easier for me to take alook at it because I know most
of the folks who I admireartistically probably are in
sync with me on a lot of thethings that are important to me.
And let's be honest, let's calla spade a spade.

(01:08:16):
Here is we have the issues areusually around social issues,
not around fiscal kind of stuff.
Ted Nugent and I aren'tdisagreeing on tariffs or fiscal
policy, on funding publiceducation, right.
So there's a whole element tothat that makes it much more
personal than just disagreeingon how we fund hot lunches,

(01:08:38):
right, you know.
But so anyway, we've digressedand now we've lost half of our
audience because I know, butthey'll.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
They're still sticking with us because they're
really curious as to are wedone?
Do we have more songs?

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Could there be more Loopingback, because we are running up
against time?
And next to Prince's and thenthe Chris Cornell version, as
you mentioned, are threeversions of the same song that

(01:09:11):
hits you three different ways,have three different
perspectives.
You can craft multiple storiesaround the perspective of the
singer without changing a singlelyric or the melody, by just
playing with the arrangement andthe emphasis on the vocals.
And that's again where geniuscomes from.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
And just to hammer that point home um, as uh, you
know, you and I both learned onour last show, I believe we we
both have DJ in our blood andeverybody knows when you're
putting together like a, aplaylist or something that
you're going to be sharing withothers, you don't put the same
song three times in a row onyour list, unless you're

(01:09:53):
somebody's going to hit randomor whatever right right, right,
those three songs you couldactually play back to back to
back and probably would evenwant to as a little social
experiment because, they are sodifferent with the exact same
words, but they bring you to.
They bring me to differentplaces every time, absolutely,

(01:10:14):
and I love all three of them,and that's that's pretty rare
too to usually a favor oneversion over the other or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
But right I I'm.
I'm completely with you on that.
I don't know if I've mentionedit yet, on this, but I think
Prince was a heck of asongwriter I don't know if I've
mentioned that or not.
Heck of a musician too.
Yeah, this to me is yourstarting point If you really
want the not the starting pointof his career, but if you really
want to take a look at whatgreat songwriting is and simple

(01:10:42):
songwriting.
Take all three versions thatwe've talked about, play them
and make a note of how they hityou, and then you will see why
it's genius.
On a song who's basically says14 times nothing compares to you
, which is not that we've allfelt that way.
It's not that deep of asentiment.
He hasn't gone in and pulledyour chakra out and found the

(01:11:04):
meaning of life.
But man, it's something else,sure is it sure is.
Something else.
Well, william, I have a feelingthat this will not be the last
time we talk about Prince RogersNelson in our podcast, because
we haven't even really gone intohis versions of songs or his
B-sides or any of that stuff.
But I have a feeling you and Icould talk Prince all day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, I think it's going to be tough to narrow that
next show down to four songs,but you know we'll come up with
another hook and make it.
You know four songs that beginwith the letter Q or something
yeah right, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
I think that's it Exactly.
So all right, william, thanksfor hanging with the queue like
in quadcast.
Did you mean that I did?

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
yes, you radio guy, you're pulled quadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
That's exactly it.
Well, with that I'm going to goice my pulled quadcast down and
stick with us.
Come back soon.
We've got more on the way.
William's going to get thatbinder of his out and we're
going to start taking notes.
That's right, I'm going to letyou close us down here, William.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yes, please, if you haven't heard this message yet
please, please, please, go tojoeysongorg, where you can
purchase tickets.
Yet today they're online onsale, ready to go.
They're going to be gone soon.
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They're going to be gone soon.
I mean, we're not at the threatof being out yet because they
just went on sale not too longago, but you're going to want to

(01:12:32):
get on there and do it and justbuy it for the whole week, you
know just have one real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
I have one real quick question for you.
But what if people they'vealready bought their joey song
tickets but want to keep up withthe quad cast?
How or where would they do that?
Oh great question, mike.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Great question, thank you.
Recently you launched aFacebook page.
Yep, if you go onto Facebookand simply type in the new
buzzword that's trending allover Twitter, all over Quad cast
, that's Q-U-A-D-C-A-S-T.
Just like it sounds.
That's one-U-A-D-C-A-S-T.
Just like it sounds.
That's one place to find us.
Well, actually, there will be alink to each of our shows there

(01:13:14):
, so follow us on the socials,yeah, wherever you listen to
podcasts.
Again, you're going to want tojust type in Quadcast with a Q
and you'll find us.
You'll find us right there,we're starting new things every
single day.
So you know, we might even be onTikTok.
If one of us can figure out howto use that, I wouldn't hold
your breath.
It's not going to be me, but no, no, no One of our.

(01:13:36):
Maybe we'll get one of ourminions to figure that out for
us.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Where is my staff?
Yeah, the research department.
Yeah, that crack research staffwilliam.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Thanks so much.
We'll talk to you everybodysoon.
Thanks for listening to thequadcast.
I can eat my dinner in a fancyrestaurant, but nothing.
I said nothing compares to you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Thanks for joining us for the Joey Song Podcast.
Remember to visit our website,joysongorg.
Follow us on all our socialmedia handles, which are at Joey
Song.
We'll see you guys at the show.
Oh geez, sorry about the recordscratch.
Wait a minute.
I forgot one thing.
If you want to help us spreadthe word about Joey Song and our

(01:14:47):
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One of the things you can do isfollow the show wherever you
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All of these things help ourpodcast and our cause get more
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And if you wanted to tell a fewfriends about Joey's Song in

(01:15:10):
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And, of course, you can visitjoey's songorg and follow us on
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Okay, I think that's it.
We will see you guys at theshow.