September 15, 2025 • 20 mins
When did celebrating murder become a political statement? The assassination of a young father and husband Charlie Kirk reveals a disturbing double standard in America: politicians pour fuel on the fire with impunity, while ordinary people lose their jobs for reacting online. The tragic event has exposed the raw, ugly truth about our fractured society and the hypocrisy in our civic discourse. Whether it’s selective outrage over national tragedies or the unchecked power of influencers across the political spectrum, we must ask ourselves: what will it take for America to find its conscience?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Oh boy, david, it is Monday andyou know what Sanity hasn't
(00:29):
stopped.
You know, I live in a statewhere it's called at will, which
means I can fire you for anyreason.
You're fired.
Florida, I can fire you becauseyou're gay, believe it or not.
(00:49):
In Florida, I can fire youbecause you wore a blue shirt
and glasses.
This is an at-will state.
Many people work for companiesthat have moral clauses, work
(01:12):
for companies that have moralclauses.
Others are just in shock overwhat people have actually been
on the record and said.
You know, when you got peoplelike AOC Crockett, bernie
Sanders and the likes of NancyPelosi that gush vitriol, hate,
or like Gavin Newsom, try anddeny it.
This is where we are at in apolitical scene, but the
(01:39):
difference between thesepoliticians and you is that you
don't have the right to saywhatever you want, believe it or
not?
Should crockett, aoc, talib,bernie?
I don't know.
Anyways, guys, welcome to therat network.
(02:01):
This is a go-to podcast, unfil,unapologetic discussion hosted
by David Solomon and myself,stuart Briscoe.
We tackle a diverse range oftopics with candid conversation,
bold opinions, whether we'rebreaking down the latest
headlines or exploring popculture, debating politics or
delving into complexities ofmodern life.
This is a platform for everyperspective, so grab a seat,
(02:24):
settle in.
This is going to be a wild ride.
David, we had tragedy in thiscountry where a young man,
father of two, founder of one ofthe largest organization,
grassroots companies thatspecifically was out to capture
(02:48):
the minds of young adolescents.
You know, like the balshem tov,like abraham, they worked with
the youth.
Yes, I know david's eyes andears lift up when I mention the
Baal Shem Tov.
The Baal Shem Tov is thefounder of the history of the
(03:10):
Hasidic movement, one of thereligious movements of American
and European Jewry.
And why am I bringing up thesetwo examples about a Christian?
Because what they had in commonwas they went after to allow
(03:31):
and provide a forum for theyouth.
It was all about the youth,whether it's talking with their
parents in a tent trying toconvince them and talk to them,
or going to a college campus.
This seems rather genuine.
Whether you agree or disagreewith Charlie.
(03:51):
I never met Charlie, like manyof you.
We've seen his podcast, hissnips, seen some longer
interviews on news networks and,whether you agree or disagree,
charlie never raised his voice,never yelled at anyone and just
talked.
(04:11):
And for whatever reason, peopleare out there saying great,
he's dead.
Almost like kill the next onenow.
Who's next?
Let's get a hit list Soundscrazy.
Who would think that any groupwould applaud in their jobs at
(04:40):
work and expect the same as aCrockett, a Tlaib or a Sanders
and many, many others on thisvitriol left side of the aisle
David?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, stuart, I got to tell you there's one thing
that's going to freak you out,probably is that I disagree with
one little thing.
You said Wow, only one.
Bernie Sanders actually tookthe high road on this one.
I got to tell you I have norespect for Bernie Sanders.
I don't agree with BernieSanders.
I think that Bernie Sanders iswhat he is and I expressed it
(05:19):
many times on this rant myopinion.
I've never called for BernieSanders death.
I've never asked anyone to gokill him.
I never asked anybody to gocancel him.
And last week, right after theCharlie Kirk passing the
assassination, if you watch thevideo he put out, that's what
(05:40):
politicians should be doing.
He denounced it.
He denounced all violence.
He's part of the problem.
Yes, I'm not disagreeing, buthe went.
He took the high road, ahardcore lefty who realized what
is at stake, and he called forthe end of it.
But I didn't hear that from alot of other ones.
(06:00):
Instead, I heard high fives,praise, divisive words,
instigator, agitator.
I heard all these words againand again and again and again
from the politicians, fuelingand stoking people.
And, like you said, stuart,politicians can say what they
want because they're okay.
They don't have to worry aboutit, even if you accuse a
(06:22):
president of rape and otherthings.
These politicians are insulatedto a point.
But they could say and do whatthey want.
They don't have to beaccountable.
The only accountability is atthe ballot box.
That's it.
But, like Stuart said, you andI don't have that you could say
what you want.
(06:43):
If you think that Charlie Kirkshould be assassinated, then,
aside from taking a good look inthe mirror and asking yourself
what the hell is wrong with you,if your employer finds out, as
hundreds of stories that haveleaked out have come out and
said, yes, these people havelost their job is because you're
(07:05):
immoral.
And why would I want you in mycompany?
I don't care what Stuart justsaid about the state of Florida.
It's irrelevant To me.
What's relevant is if youbelieve that someone should be
shot for their beliefs.
I don't want you in my company,I don't want you near me.
And it was funny, stuart If youlook on social media, there's a
(07:29):
guy screaming and freaking outover the fact that Microsoft
fired him for supporting CharlieKirk's death, and you know what
the irony of it all is.
He claims he was the one whohelped build the DEI department
in Microsoft, and I found thathysterical because the I in DEI
(07:50):
is inclusion, not exclusion.
Inclusion.
And he's upset.
Look what I did.
And now I'm being punished forcelebrating the murder of a
conservative.
He doesn't see the irony inanything that he said.
People are screaming and yellingthat they can't.
Now they've lost their job, andhow dare their employer take
away their livelihood?
(08:10):
You are celebrating the removalof a human being from earth.
Who is gonna take care of MrsKirk and her children?
You're celebrating it.
You don't get the right to dothat.
There are teachers, pilots,servers in restaurants all kinds
of people are losing their joband they're freaking out over
(08:32):
that Because they're seeingpeople like AOC, like Elizabeth
Warren who I'm surprised youdidn't go after her continuing
the vitriol, not seeing the factthat they're part of the
problem, as are right-wingconservatives.
There are a lot of them outthere who are doing it.
I'm not saying that they're not.
(08:52):
Both sides of the aisle have acertain amount of guilt.
But where's the stop?
Where's the end?
Where's the realization?
Oh, it's because guys like BobVillan, a fucking piece of shit
of a radical lefty performer,goes on stage and says Kirk
should rest in piss.
Good that he's dead.
His pronouns are was and were.
And people are cheeringCheering these people.
(09:22):
If you think that this person'sdeath is worthy, there's
something wrong with you Now,stuart.
Charlie Kirk wrote in a post onApril 7th and I'm going to quote
it Assassination culture isspreading on the left.
48% of liberals say it would beat least somewhat justified to
murder Elon Musk.
55% said the same about DonaldTrump.
(09:44):
Remember these same people oneyear ago, after Trump was nearly
killed in Butler, pennsylvania,celebrated the attempt, but
we're disappointed that the guydidn't finish the job.
This is immoral.
This is wrong.
This is massive brainwashing.
(10:05):
This has to stop.
Do you not see where this isgoing?
Because tomorrow morning, ifsome radical right-wing guy does
that to a left-wing, I mean,look, bill Maher, stephen A
Smith and a variety of others.
(10:26):
Chris Cuomo all came out, andthese are all left.
Chris Cuomo all came out, andthese are all lefties.
These are all liberals,democrats.
They said we can't continuethis, it has to stop, and they
appealed to both sides to stop.
Instead, they stoke.
They continue to stoke.
There's no call for calm,stuart.
(10:50):
I got to tell you I'm amazedhow they're saying, saying oh,
donald trump has to stop andthen you'll see, we'll stop.
What the hell is that?
That is the biggest load ofshit I've ever heard, because
nothing donald trump has done in10 years has been good.
So suddenly, now, if donaldtrump stops his rhetoric, you're
stopping your rhetoric.
You call that leadership.
No, true leadership would havebeen and I don't care if it's
Republican or Democrat wouldhave called for both sides of
(11:12):
the aisle to say we got to stop,we got to stop, we got to stop.
Stuart, politicians, influencersneed extra security.
Okay, guys like Ben Shapiro, aconservative, who's gone to
campuses, who's gone to perform,has to hire security.
He said it himself.
Others have had that security.
(11:33):
You and I going to synagogueneed to have extra security.
Next week we'll have hordes ofsecurity, because this is what
has gone on with all the vitriolIf you don't stop it somewhere,
it's just going to get worse.
If you don't stop it somewhere,it's just going to get worse.
And, stuart, I know I've goneon, but I can't get it out of my
(11:58):
head.
What person celebrates themurder of another person?
That person in my mind.
You are so immoral you don'tdeserve it.
Yeah, David.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So we spoke a couple days ago about judges, on how
they have to be removed fromoffice, and we have to stand up
and be vocal about the distrustthat they've caused.
We spoke about following it,the death of char, which again
is a loss, and fueling tens ofthousands of people to join an
(12:33):
organization which isn't goingto go anywhere.
In fact, I believe, as I saidalso in the last broadcast, that
they'll canonize and they willmartyr Charlie Kirk.
But you know, what else is justamazing is that there are going
to be more in the field thanever before.
(12:56):
When Floyd died, a convictedfelon who was in the process of
committing a crime wastragically murdered.
There were billions of dollarsof riots all over the country.
You had BLM movements,politicians taking the knee.
So, warren Pelosi, schumer,let's go back to just a few days
(13:23):
ago.
The murder of an icon was takenfar too early from this earth.
David, were there any riots inthe street?
No, that was it.
Was there any call?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
for retribution?
No, but interestingly enough,did you see the vigil last week?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yep Quiet vigil disrupted by Another individual
who just so happens to bewearing the same monogram
t-shirt that the allegedmurderer was wearing, which I
find it actually amazing thatthe media hasn't grabbed that
(14:03):
note.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
No, they don't want to to stewart.
The left media doesn't want togo there because it exposes the
truth stewart you know what thetruth is.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They are going to likely link this back to a
single organization, which mayor may not be funded by the
likes of Soros or Rothschild andothers.
In fact, I don't see acondemnation letter from-.
(14:34):
You're not going to, stuart,you're not going to.
So, again, now that we knowpeople that are politicians,
that are literally more thanlikely going to be linked behind
these organizations, maybe it'stime that we, the people, use
the laws on the books and clearthe table of these people's
(15:00):
reach and touch.
How well you.
Well, you know what, stuart,I'm going to tell you.
You see, david, you're anex-media person.
Skydance has just gottenpermission to take over CBS.
So what Skydance will likelyand includes CNN will likely
reformat both those networks andsomeone else will pop up in
(15:23):
another.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Stuart, today, media is not what you think it is.
You know it's wrong.
The media, it's not thetraditional media, that is the
only problem.
You are ignoring online all ofthese ex-media folks who now
launch their own podcasts thathave followers Okay, from Megyn
(15:44):
Kelly to Chris Cuomo to others.
They have their own podcast.
They do it and say what theywant.
No one stops them, no one editsthem, and they say what they
want and they have their sheepfollowing them.
And even Tucker Carlson andCandace Owens, who are on the
far right, who should also beremoved, who are promoting
(16:05):
vitriol and hate andanti-Semitism and the like,
funded, by the way, allegedly byQatar, and all these things you
tell me how do?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
you stop.
You know the difference betweena CBS and NBC and a Chris Cuomo
.
You know what the difference is.
David, what Stuart?
They don't have the billions ofdollars to fight a war steward,
I'm gonna tell you, you got it,you, you.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You do not clearly spend time listening to these
podcasters.
You don't realize the reachthat they have.
They're helping to stoke thisproblem because there's no one
stopping them, editing, vettingthem.
They could say what they wantwithout any facts, without any
substance, and they will havethousands and thousands and
(16:52):
thousands and thousands offollowers.
And I know you want to wrapthis up, stuart, but I ain't
letting you do it.
I'm not letting you stop here,because people need to
understand that the only way tostop this hate and this violence
is to cut those people off.
But they won't.
And so if Sundance takes overCBS, so what?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And CNN?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
So what?
So what?
Look, don Lamont was fired fromCNN, has his own podcast, has
his own followers.
It doesn't stop.
Today, mass media isn't what itused to be.
Now these guys are all on theirpodcasts, like you and me,
spreading the word on socialmedia unvetted.
(17:39):
No one cares, no one checks, noone's going to check.
Why would you check Don Lamont?
He was a media guy.
None of them are being checked,stuart, and whatever they say
goes, and they're part of theproblem.
They've indoctrinated andhelped to indoctrinate this hate
and I'm serious From CandaceOwen and Tucker Carlson on the
(18:00):
hard right all the way to thefolks on the hard left.
They're the ones that are theproblem.
They're the ones that have tobe cut off.
And unless Donald Trump putsout a law that prohibits it
which would be almost impossibleto hold people to, how are you
going to stop them?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, you know, david , you're right, but I have faith
, something that I have more oftoday than I did yesterday.
There wasn't guns in the street, there wasn't civil war, and
(18:38):
you know what?
There is bow.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That took this man's life might be the tipping point
to get rid of the aocs, to getrid of the talibs you know,
david, I hope, I hope you'reright, but the problem is
stewart when a politician cansay and do and I've ranted about
it with that when you weren'taround that rashida talib stood
(19:03):
up and called for, you know, toannih, annihilate Israel and
death.
She really basically alluded todeath to Jews, and no one said
a word about her.
And Congress won't censor her.
I don't see it happening,stuart, I think you guys, I
don't think I hate to say this Idon't know what it's going to
(19:23):
take for you to wake up.
If 9-11 didn't do it for you,what will?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Great, great, great statement.
And on that note, david, I'mgoing to wrap it up.
All right, everybody, thanksfor coming in and joining us.
Every Monday, wednesday, fridaynoon, easter, david and I duel
it out, cutting the latestheadlines in a thought-provoking
, honest conversation.
Don't forget, please PM us,message us, share us.
(19:52):
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Please share them in your feeds.
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Be counted.
See you later.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Oh boy, david, it is Monday andyou know what Sanity hasn't
(00:29):
stopped.
You know, I live in a statewhere it's called at will, which
means I can fire you for anyreason.
You're fired.
Florida, I can fire you becauseyou're gay, believe it or not.
(00:49):
In Florida, I can fire youbecause you wore a blue shirt
and glasses.
This is an at-will state.
Many people work for companiesthat have moral clauses, work
(01:12):
for companies that have moralclauses.
Others are just in shock overwhat people have actually been
on the record and said.
You know, when you got peoplelike AOC Crockett, bernie
Sanders and the likes of NancyPelosi that gush vitriol, hate,
or like Gavin Newsom, try anddeny it.
This is where we are at in apolitical scene, but the
(01:39):
difference between thesepoliticians and you is that you
don't have the right to saywhatever you want, believe it or
not?
Should crockett, aoc, talib,bernie?
I don't know.
Anyways, guys, welcome to therat network.
(02:01):
This is a go-to podcast, unfil,unapologetic discussion hosted
by David Solomon and myself,stuart Briscoe.
We tackle a diverse range oftopics with candid conversation,
bold opinions, whether we'rebreaking down the latest
headlines or exploring popculture, debating politics or
delving into complexities ofmodern life.
This is a platform for everyperspective, so grab a seat,
(02:24):
settle in.
This is going to be a wild ride.
David, we had tragedy in thiscountry where a young man,
father of two, founder of one ofthe largest organization,
grassroots companies thatspecifically was out to capture
(02:48):
the minds of young adolescents.
You know, like the balshem tov,like abraham, they worked with
the youth.
Yes, I know david's eyes andears lift up when I mention the
Baal Shem Tov.
The Baal Shem Tov is thefounder of the history of the
(03:10):
Hasidic movement, one of thereligious movements of American
and European Jewry.
And why am I bringing up thesetwo examples about a Christian?
Because what they had in commonwas they went after to allow
(03:31):
and provide a forum for theyouth.
It was all about the youth,whether it's talking with their
parents in a tent trying toconvince them and talk to them,
or going to a college campus.
This seems rather genuine.
Whether you agree or disagreewith Charlie.
(03:51):
I never met Charlie, like manyof you.
We've seen his podcast, hissnips, seen some longer
interviews on news networks and,whether you agree or disagree,
charlie never raised his voice,never yelled at anyone and just
talked.
(04:11):
And for whatever reason, peopleare out there saying great,
he's dead.
Almost like kill the next onenow.
Who's next?
Let's get a hit list Soundscrazy.
Who would think that any groupwould applaud in their jobs at
(04:40):
work and expect the same as aCrockett, a Tlaib or a Sanders
and many, many others on thisvitriol left side of the aisle
David?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, stuart, I got to tell you there's one thing
that's going to freak you out,probably is that I disagree with
one little thing.
You said Wow, only one.
Bernie Sanders actually tookthe high road on this one.
I got to tell you I have norespect for Bernie Sanders.
I don't agree with BernieSanders.
I think that Bernie Sanders iswhat he is and I expressed it
(05:19):
many times on this rant myopinion.
I've never called for BernieSanders death.
I've never asked anyone to gokill him.
I never asked anybody to gocancel him.
And last week, right after theCharlie Kirk passing the
assassination, if you watch thevideo he put out, that's what
(05:40):
politicians should be doing.
He denounced it.
He denounced all violence.
He's part of the problem.
Yes, I'm not disagreeing, buthe went.
He took the high road, ahardcore lefty who realized what
is at stake, and he called forthe end of it.
But I didn't hear that from alot of other ones.
(06:00):
Instead, I heard high fives,praise, divisive words,
instigator, agitator.
I heard all these words againand again and again and again
from the politicians, fuelingand stoking people.
And, like you said, stuart,politicians can say what they
want because they're okay.
They don't have to worry aboutit, even if you accuse a
(06:22):
president of rape and otherthings.
These politicians are insulatedto a point.
But they could say and do whatthey want.
They don't have to beaccountable.
The only accountability is atthe ballot box.
That's it.
But, like Stuart said, you andI don't have that you could say
what you want.
(06:43):
If you think that Charlie Kirkshould be assassinated, then,
aside from taking a good look inthe mirror and asking yourself
what the hell is wrong with you,if your employer finds out, as
hundreds of stories that haveleaked out have come out and
said, yes, these people havelost their job is because you're
(07:05):
immoral.
And why would I want you in mycompany?
I don't care what Stuart justsaid about the state of Florida.
It's irrelevant To me.
What's relevant is if youbelieve that someone should be
shot for their beliefs.
I don't want you in my company,I don't want you near me.
And it was funny, stuart If youlook on social media, there's a
(07:29):
guy screaming and freaking outover the fact that Microsoft
fired him for supporting CharlieKirk's death, and you know what
the irony of it all is.
He claims he was the one whohelped build the DEI department
in Microsoft, and I found thathysterical because the I in DEI
(07:50):
is inclusion, not exclusion.
Inclusion.
And he's upset.
Look what I did.
And now I'm being punished forcelebrating the murder of a
conservative.
He doesn't see the irony inanything that he said.
People are screaming and yellingthat they can't.
Now they've lost their job, andhow dare their employer take
away their livelihood?
(08:10):
You are celebrating the removalof a human being from earth.
Who is gonna take care of MrsKirk and her children?
You're celebrating it.
You don't get the right to dothat.
There are teachers, pilots,servers in restaurants all kinds
of people are losing their joband they're freaking out over
(08:32):
that Because they're seeingpeople like AOC, like Elizabeth
Warren who I'm surprised youdidn't go after her continuing
the vitriol, not seeing the factthat they're part of the
problem, as are right-wingconservatives.
There are a lot of them outthere who are doing it.
I'm not saying that they're not.
(08:52):
Both sides of the aisle have acertain amount of guilt.
But where's the stop?
Where's the end?
Where's the realization?
Oh, it's because guys like BobVillan, a fucking piece of shit
of a radical lefty performer,goes on stage and says Kirk
should rest in piss.
Good that he's dead.
His pronouns are was and were.
And people are cheeringCheering these people.
(09:22):
If you think that this person'sdeath is worthy, there's
something wrong with you Now,stuart.
Charlie Kirk wrote in a post onApril 7th and I'm going to quote
it Assassination culture isspreading on the left.
48% of liberals say it would beat least somewhat justified to
murder Elon Musk.
55% said the same about DonaldTrump.
(09:44):
Remember these same people oneyear ago, after Trump was nearly
killed in Butler, pennsylvania,celebrated the attempt, but
we're disappointed that the guydidn't finish the job.
This is immoral.
This is wrong.
This is massive brainwashing.
(10:05):
This has to stop.
Do you not see where this isgoing?
Because tomorrow morning, ifsome radical right-wing guy does
that to a left-wing, I mean,look, bill Maher, stephen A
Smith and a variety of others.
(10:26):
Chris Cuomo all came out, andthese are all left.
Chris Cuomo all came out, andthese are all lefties.
These are all liberals,democrats.
They said we can't continuethis, it has to stop, and they
appealed to both sides to stop.
Instead, they stoke.
They continue to stoke.
There's no call for calm,stuart.
(10:50):
I got to tell you I'm amazedhow they're saying, saying oh,
donald trump has to stop andthen you'll see, we'll stop.
What the hell is that?
That is the biggest load ofshit I've ever heard, because
nothing donald trump has done in10 years has been good.
So suddenly, now, if donaldtrump stops his rhetoric, you're
stopping your rhetoric.
You call that leadership.
No, true leadership would havebeen and I don't care if it's
Republican or Democrat wouldhave called for both sides of
(11:12):
the aisle to say we got to stop,we got to stop, we got to stop.
Stuart, politicians, influencersneed extra security.
Okay, guys like Ben Shapiro, aconservative, who's gone to
campuses, who's gone to perform,has to hire security.
He said it himself.
Others have had that security.
(11:33):
You and I going to synagogueneed to have extra security.
Next week we'll have hordes ofsecurity, because this is what
has gone on with all the vitriolIf you don't stop it somewhere,
it's just going to get worse.
If you don't stop it somewhere,it's just going to get worse.
And, stuart, I know I've goneon, but I can't get it out of my
(11:58):
head.
What person celebrates themurder of another person?
That person in my mind.
You are so immoral you don'tdeserve it.
Yeah, David.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So we spoke a couple days ago about judges, on how
they have to be removed fromoffice, and we have to stand up
and be vocal about the distrustthat they've caused.
We spoke about following it,the death of char, which again
is a loss, and fueling tens ofthousands of people to join an
(12:33):
organization which isn't goingto go anywhere.
In fact, I believe, as I saidalso in the last broadcast, that
they'll canonize and they willmartyr Charlie Kirk.
But you know, what else is justamazing is that there are going
to be more in the field thanever before.
(12:56):
When Floyd died, a convictedfelon who was in the process of
committing a crime wastragically murdered.
There were billions of dollarsof riots all over the country.
You had BLM movements,politicians taking the knee.
So, warren Pelosi, schumer,let's go back to just a few days
(13:23):
ago.
The murder of an icon was takenfar too early from this earth.
David, were there any riots inthe street?
No, that was it.
Was there any call?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
for retribution?
No, but interestingly enough,did you see the vigil last week?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yep Quiet vigil disrupted by Another individual
who just so happens to bewearing the same monogram
t-shirt that the allegedmurderer was wearing, which I
find it actually amazing thatthe media hasn't grabbed that
(14:03):
note.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
No, they don't want to to stewart.
The left media doesn't want togo there because it exposes the
truth stewart you know what thetruth is.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They are going to likely link this back to a
single organization, which mayor may not be funded by the
likes of Soros or Rothschild andothers.
In fact, I don't see acondemnation letter from-.
(14:34):
You're not going to, stuart,you're not going to.
So, again, now that we knowpeople that are politicians,
that are literally more thanlikely going to be linked behind
these organizations, maybe it'stime that we, the people, use
the laws on the books and clearthe table of these people's
(15:00):
reach and touch.
How well you.
Well, you know what, stuart,I'm going to tell you.
You see, david, you're anex-media person.
Skydance has just gottenpermission to take over CBS.
So what Skydance will likelyand includes CNN will likely
reformat both those networks andsomeone else will pop up in
(15:23):
another.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Stuart, today, media is not what you think it is.
You know it's wrong.
The media, it's not thetraditional media, that is the
only problem.
You are ignoring online all ofthese ex-media folks who now
launch their own podcasts thathave followers Okay, from Megyn
(15:44):
Kelly to Chris Cuomo to others.
They have their own podcast.
They do it and say what theywant.
No one stops them, no one editsthem, and they say what they
want and they have their sheepfollowing them.
And even Tucker Carlson andCandace Owens, who are on the
far right, who should also beremoved, who are promoting
(16:05):
vitriol and hate andanti-Semitism and the like,
funded, by the way, allegedly byQatar, and all these things you
tell me how do?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
you stop.
You know the difference betweena CBS and NBC and a Chris Cuomo
.
You know what the difference is.
David, what Stuart?
They don't have the billions ofdollars to fight a war steward,
I'm gonna tell you, you got it,you, you.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You do not clearly spend time listening to these
podcasters.
You don't realize the reachthat they have.
They're helping to stoke thisproblem because there's no one
stopping them, editing, vettingthem.
They could say what they wantwithout any facts, without any
substance, and they will havethousands and thousands and
(16:52):
thousands and thousands offollowers.
And I know you want to wrapthis up, stuart, but I ain't
letting you do it.
I'm not letting you stop here,because people need to
understand that the only way tostop this hate and this violence
is to cut those people off.
But they won't.
And so if Sundance takes overCBS, so what?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And CNN?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
So what?
So what?
Look, don Lamont was fired fromCNN, has his own podcast, has
his own followers.
It doesn't stop.
Today, mass media isn't what itused to be.
Now these guys are all on theirpodcasts, like you and me,
spreading the word on socialmedia unvetted.
(17:39):
No one cares, no one checks, noone's going to check.
Why would you check Don Lamont?
He was a media guy.
None of them are being checked,stuart, and whatever they say
goes, and they're part of theproblem.
They've indoctrinated andhelped to indoctrinate this hate
and I'm serious From CandaceOwen and Tucker Carlson on the
(18:00):
hard right all the way to thefolks on the hard left.
They're the ones that are theproblem.
They're the ones that have tobe cut off.
And unless Donald Trump putsout a law that prohibits it
which would be almost impossibleto hold people to, how are you
going to stop them?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, you know, david , you're right, but I have faith
, something that I have more oftoday than I did yesterday.
There wasn't guns in the street, there wasn't civil war, and
(18:38):
you know what?
There is bow.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That took this man's life might be the tipping point
to get rid of the aocs, to getrid of the talibs you know,
david, I hope, I hope you'reright, but the problem is
stewart when a politician cansay and do and I've ranted about
it with that when you weren'taround that rashida talib stood
(19:03):
up and called for, you know, toannih, annihilate Israel and
death.
She really basically alluded todeath to Jews, and no one said
a word about her.
And Congress won't censor her.
I don't see it happening,stuart, I think you guys, I
don't think I hate to say this Idon't know what it's going to
(19:23):
take for you to wake up.
If 9-11 didn't do it for you,what will?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Great, great, great statement.
And on that note, david, I'mgoing to wrap it up.
All right, everybody, thanksfor coming in and joining us.
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