October 13, 2025 • 18 mins
Celebrating the return of hostages without asking what comes next is the most dangerous illusion of all. Many in the world rejoices at the safe return of innocent lives, and rightly so—families are whole again, and a moment of humanity has broken through the darkness. Yet beneath the joy lies a harder truth: the region remains a tinderbox, with unresolved grievances, fragile ceasefires, and world leaders worrying more about voters in the home rather than seek peace. The question isn’t just how we celebrate today, but whether we have the courage to confront tomorrow.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:04):
Wow, it's morning.
It's noon.
It's morning and noon somewhere.
I think in Israel.
All right.
Well, let's sort of figure outwhere we're going.
You know, on Friday, we kind ofwent over what was going to go
(00:26):
on today, and it seems that itwent on with literally without a
hitch.
You have the president of theUnited States, half of the
American top cabinet, and theyare all getting awards and
speaking uh for the second timenow in Israel, now at Jerusalem.
You know, you cannot imagine theemotions that are running
(00:52):
through those that have waitedfor the loved ones for a very,
very, very long time.
You don't understand theemotions of a people that have
been waiting for someone else'sloved ones to come home today,
which in the Israeli Jewish wayis they all were waiting for
(01:17):
their loved ones to come home.
Why did I break that sentenceapart?
I think that David may sort ofgrab, hopefully, gravitate to
that, because it is the peopleof Israel, the Jews of the
world, on how we are allinterconnected and we are all
(01:38):
one.
Welcome everybody to the RantNetwork.
How's that for a twister, Mr.
Solomon?
Uh, this is your go-to podcastfor unapologetic discussions
hosted by David Solomon andmyself, Stuart Briscoe.
As we tackle a diverse range oftopics, candid conversation,
bold opinions, whether we'rebreaking down the latest
headlines, exploring culture,debating politics, delving into
complexities of modern life,this is a podcast for every
(02:02):
perspective.
So grab a seat and uh buckle upbecause this should be another
thought-provoking podcast.
Uh, David, 20 are free, and herewe are wondering what's next.
And we know that the presidentof the United States is flying
(02:24):
to Egypt on the beast to makeplans for what phase two should
be shaped and whom should beshaping it.
But it seems rather curious thattwo of the main players have
been left out of that meeting,David.
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
All right, let's take a step back.
And if what Stuart was saying,if you were like so many Jews
and Israelis yesterday or a fewhours ago, you were up till
practically dawn waiting to seethose 20 faces return.
Uh, Stuart, I couldn't make itpast 3 a.m.
local time.
(03:06):
I saw the first seven getreleased.
Um, with, as you said, withoutuh let's call it a Hamas-like
hitch.
There were no ceremonies, therewere no fanfare, there was no
none of what we saw in the past.
And for the first time, youknow, we held our breath,
Stuart.
We held our breath collectivelyas a c as a nation.
(03:27):
And I'm saying a Jewish nation,Israeli nation.
And as the day progressed, theamount of people getting into
hostage square exploded.
Now, on the weekend, in case youmissed it, Steve Whitkoff, uh
Mr.
Kushner and his wife IvankaTrum, Jared Kushner, were also
at um hostage square, givingjust saying a few words in
(03:52):
English.
Half a million people, between400 and 500,000 people were
there.
And if you could understand thatIsrael is all of nine million
people, so you can only imaginethe just do the math of what it
could be like in your communityif you had that kind of that
kind of reaction.
But people are coming in fromall over the country, they
wanted to be part of a history,a positive history.
(04:14):
Two years ago, to the date onthe Hebrew calendar of the
October 7th massacre thatstarted on the Jewish holiday of
Shmeny at Sevet.
That's how many, how how whenthese hostages come home.
Jews, Israelis were eitherwatching it on live stream,
catching it on the news,wherever they were, they were
(04:35):
live, it didn't make adifference.
Everyone was tuned into this tosee 20 faces come home.
Because 28, unfortunately,another 28 had died.
And as of course, as of thismorning, only four of the 28
dead have been returned.
There's a whole question of howthe balance may or may ever not
(04:56):
come home.
But Stuart, the beauty is thatthis that I've been wearing now
for close to two years, Stuart,can come off.
They're home.
This is the first time in twoyears, and that is the elation
that every Jew Israeli with aheart has has today.
And as they look to the nextstep, as you say, the peace,
(05:18):
this is now the question, is nowwhat's at stake.
Because this is not an Israeliterritory per se.
Yes, by technically, this wecould call the Gaza Strip and
the West Bank Israeli territory,but I don't want to get into
that.
Is where Palestinians want tolive.
And this is where thePalestinians can't seem to live
without peace without peace.
They do it's terror.
(05:39):
There's no economics, theeducation is has was just filled
with hate, as we've talked onnumerous occasions, and the
world is getting together underDonald Trump with Donald Trump
leading the charge.
As I'm reading this here, alsoformer Prime Minister Tony Blair
will be leading this whole ideaof creating a Gaza redevelopment
(05:59):
until the reformed Palestinianauthorities prepare to take
over.
Apparently, this Trump-ledeconomic development is gonna
see and attract internationalinvestment.
Qatar?
Saudi Arabia?
If you're in the real estategame, this could be very
interesting.
I don't know.
But what's happening here,Stuart, is now the next phase.
(06:22):
The world tried to force aPalestinian state a scant month
ago by doing this dumb dumbdeclaration of the United
Nations.
That was the way all thinking.
The so-called conventionalwisdom, and I use that very
sarcastically, because I don'tthink that there is any wisdom
(06:43):
behind the people who made aunilateral declaration, because
that it was just throwing shitinto the wind.
But here is Donald Trump saying,uh-uh, because that doesn't give
Israel security, that doesn'tbring stability to the Middle
East, that just brings in a newfaction, a new problem, and the
same old hatred, and the cyclecontinues.
(07:05):
The big fear Israelis have, allthe while looking east to Iran
and going, whoa, whoa, whoa,we're focusing on these guys,
but what about those guys?
And while Iran will say thatthey support this deal, it's all
bullshit because they don't carefor the Palestinians.
Because if they cared for thePalestinians, they wouldn't have
(07:26):
fired arbitrary rockets thatlanded in the West Bank.
Nobody, like whatever.
And if Egypt and Jordan andLebanon and Syria and all those
others really cared about thePalestinians, they would have
let them into their country,which they did not.
What's about to happen here,Stuart, is is this crazy thing
that Israel and Hamas are notinvited to this, which is not a
(07:49):
terrible thing.
At first I thought, why not?
But Israel actually shouldn'tlet Trump run it.
Because Trump has succeeded atsomething that nobody else has.
Nope.
And this is another opportunity,Stuart.
I think that with Donald Trump,you know, the president of
peace, that's what they calledhim, Stuart.
President of peace.
I know the Nobel committeedoesn't think so.
SPEAKER_00 (08:10):
Well, actually, that that that's actually a misnomer
and a mistake.
That he was in presidence in 15days over the deciding period,
because January 25th is when allnominations have to be sent in
based off of material facts.
So all what he did in his secondterm, which I believe and agree
with you totally, was definitelyearned that prize.
(08:34):
He wasn't actually a realcandidate of that.
So I know I know that I knowthat like I just want to correct
that.
SPEAKER_01 (08:43):
I uh you can correct me all you want, but you know
the problem, Miss Stuart?
Yep, it doesn't matter.
Nope, you know, the exceptionshave been made and things have
been done for the Nobel Prize.
Stuart Stuart, I'm not talkingabout the Nobel Peace Prize, I'm
talking about in general, otherthings people are willing to
(09:04):
bend rules because this is asuper exceptional situation.
But here's what's here's thething, Stuart, and I'm gonna
pump this back to you.
I think this is a crazyalliance.
I think that you know, the lasttime we saw this was when Bill
Clinton tried to bring in abunch of countries together to
fight Saddam Hussein in Iraq totry to create this weird
alliance.
(09:25):
Um this was a at the time it wasa military alliance to defend,
you know, the region.
And again, Clinton told Israelstay out of it, we'll take care
of you.
And at the time, Israel said,uh, yeah, but no.
This time I'm curious, Stuart,what's this alliance gonna cook
up?
Because you know, the presidentof Indonesia doesn't want
(09:46):
Israelis on his on his territorybecause the world gymnastics
tournament is gonna be there,and he doesn't want Jews there.
So, really, Stuart, what is theworld gonna actually?
SPEAKER_00 (09:58):
So I I I was gonna go cooking down that path.
So, thanks for the tea up.
You know, reality is UnitedNations was created on the heels
of the end of World War II, andthat became one of the biggest
centers of hate that exists inthe world.
So I do share David's uhoptimism over what might come,
(10:24):
uh, and if you can't tell, I'mbeing very sarcastic, that may
come of this new alliance, uh,this new group that's gonna
dictate what goes on in thatstrip called the Gaza Strip.
Now, I I can tell you thatwhat's changed now, and where
(10:45):
the Indonesian leader I thinkhas issues, is that the form of
of religion that they're tryingto promote is the seventh
century.
Let's understand where thesepeople are coming from and where
their ideology is sort ofremained for now.
I'm hopeful, because I like tobe the optimist sometimes, very
(11:09):
rarely, but in this time, thatmaybe the world will shift its
ideology from the seventhcentury BC to make it somewhere
towards the modern era.
Again, we've shown pictures,David.
We've talked about what theoasis in the Middle East looked
like in 1965.
(11:31):
And we've shown what it lookslike today.
It's a regressive society.
And you know, society seems togo down that path every so many
hundreds of years until it getsa snap and pivots to the future.
And maybe this is thatopportunity where the world may
(11:53):
actually move forward.
Yes, the Qataris have been atthe center of evil for a very
long time, and now they seem tohave found themselves a seat of
a table of peace.
Does that mean the leopardschanged its stripes?
Probably not.
But you got to be hopeful atsome point because what did we
(12:13):
gain?
We gained our 20 lives back, wegained 20 bodies or will gain 20
bodies back.
We will have called this issue agood armistice because that's
all this is.
It's a ceasefire.
It is not a peace of any kind.
If you followed the news, whichit clearly wasn't very popular,
(12:37):
Hamas was going through thestrip, murdering and killing
anyone that they thought or wasin their path that was for this
peace arrangement.
And I gotta tell you, the vacuumthat's occurring in Gaza Strip
(12:57):
is probably as dangerous as thevacuum that occurred when the
Ayatollah Khomeini took power inIran.
Everyone thought that was goingto be peace and the corruption
was going to end, and yet thatbecame the birth of the
seventh-century religion thatthe Ayatollah chairs.
(13:19):
But, you know, we are here todaycelebrating the lives that have
been returned.
We talked about it on Friday inanticipation of today, and today
it's a reality.
It's historic.
It is a dawn that could be a newMiddle East.
Does that mean it's going tostart today?
(13:41):
Does that mean the ripple, thestone in the pond will start
today?
Maybe.
If you're a Jew in the world,you're hopeful.
If you're an enemy of the state,you're doubtful.
SPEAKER_01 (13:57):
David?
Stuart, you know what you justsaid was very interesting
because what you just what youwhat you I don't want to dwell
on this too much.
We'll leave that for anotherrant.
But the haters came out, Stuart,in full force in many, many
areas saying London, thestruggle hasn't ended.
(14:17):
And that's the interestingthing, is now that the two years
later, now all of you who weredoubting us and calling us crazy
and saying that's not true.
These are pro-Palestinian,they're not.
What you're seeing here is notpeople who are pursuing peace,
pursuing death.
And Stuart, I gotta tell you,I've heard this in many corners
in Canada, in the United States,in the West, it still has to be
(14:39):
a one-state solution, accordingto them.
These haters don't want peace inthe region.
The amazing thing is, Stuart, isif you look forward, if you look
at areas historically thatrevived itself through
economics, the societies werebetter.
But if you can't explain topeople, if people don't
(15:00):
understand what the benefits areand what's going on here, it
ain't gonna work.
And if people are not gonna bewilling to embrace change, it's
not gonna work.
And the problem is, Stuart, thatHamas has already deployed
itself back into the into theinto Gaza.
We saw thousands of themimmediately rushing.
They uh they again, instead ofshowing, you know, dressed up in
(15:22):
military garb as they weresupposed to per the Geneva
Convention, they walked aroundin civilian clothing, they
renamed themselves the GazaSecurity Force, not Hamas, and
they shot and killed people whothey thought were traitors,
including an influencer who fortwo years was land-based in
Israel, which is hilarious inits own right.
(15:42):
And yet, what is the futuregonna hold?
Future cannot be positive ifonly one side wants it.
It's you know, this is amarriage of inconvenience.
I get it.
I I get it.
No, you know, both sides are aremad at the other, I get it, and
I'm being very, you know, cheekyabout the like the way I'm
(16:04):
saying it.
But here we go again.
Hamas is threatening again, theyhave learned nothing, they're
playing games again, thecountdown to the next Jewish
massacre has already begun.
That's what they're putting outthere into social media, into
into the people.
They've learned nothing.
(16:25):
So the only thing I could say toMr.
Trump and the people who aregoing to Shah almost to do this
in Egypt don't give in to theterrorists, don't be naive.
Qatar has pulled the wool overyour eyes and has somehow got
you to believe that they'repeacemakers.
Sure.
Okay.
(16:46):
Turkey, who's been calling, youknow, Ardogan has been calling
for Israel's destruction, sure.
You've got a bunch of people whohate Israel at that table.
Trump's shown he can support andbe a leader for Israel.
Now the question is with all ofthose haters at the table,
Stewart, what's gonna come out?
(17:06):
Because Israel, every timeIsrael takes a first step, she
gets hurt.
This time she didn't take afirst step.
And she's still gonna get hurtbecause Hamas is redeployed.
Hamas continues to demand, evenduring these little hostages,
they played games who should bereleased to the last second.
They reneged on this deal untilthey got their arm twisted.
(17:30):
Stuart, I hope and pray that thefuture of the region is quiet.
Peace, hopefully, maybe one day,but let's hope for some quiet.
SPEAKER_00 (17:41):
And that brings us to another podcast to a close.
We truly appreciate you joiningin.
We're here every Monday,Wednesday, Friday noon Eastern,
except when we don't want to.
Catch us on our website, catchus on all the verticals.
Yep, David.
We want to be here.
All right, take care, guys.
See you real soon.
Wednesdays, chopping on theblock too.
(18:03):
Take care.
Wow, it's morning.
It's noon.
It's morning and noon somewhere.
I think in Israel.
All right.
Well, let's sort of figure outwhere we're going.
You know, on Friday, we kind ofwent over what was going to go
(00:26):
on today, and it seems that itwent on with literally without a
hitch.
You have the president of theUnited States, half of the
American top cabinet, and theyare all getting awards and
speaking uh for the second timenow in Israel, now at Jerusalem.
You know, you cannot imagine theemotions that are running
(00:52):
through those that have waitedfor the loved ones for a very,
very, very long time.
You don't understand theemotions of a people that have
been waiting for someone else'sloved ones to come home today,
which in the Israeli Jewish wayis they all were waiting for
(01:17):
their loved ones to come home.
Why did I break that sentenceapart?
I think that David may sort ofgrab, hopefully, gravitate to
that, because it is the peopleof Israel, the Jews of the
world, on how we are allinterconnected and we are all
(01:38):
one.
Welcome everybody to the RantNetwork.
How's that for a twister, Mr.
Solomon?
Uh, this is your go-to podcastfor unapologetic discussions
hosted by David Solomon andmyself, Stuart Briscoe.
As we tackle a diverse range oftopics, candid conversation,
bold opinions, whether we'rebreaking down the latest
headlines, exploring culture,debating politics, delving into
complexities of modern life,this is a podcast for every
(02:02):
perspective.
So grab a seat and uh buckle upbecause this should be another
thought-provoking podcast.
Uh, David, 20 are free, and herewe are wondering what's next.
And we know that the presidentof the United States is flying
(02:24):
to Egypt on the beast to makeplans for what phase two should
be shaped and whom should beshaping it.
But it seems rather curious thattwo of the main players have
been left out of that meeting,David.
SPEAKER_01 (02:45):
All right, let's take a step back.
And if what Stuart was saying,if you were like so many Jews
and Israelis yesterday or a fewhours ago, you were up till
practically dawn waiting to seethose 20 faces return.
Uh, Stuart, I couldn't make itpast 3 a.m.
local time.
(03:06):
I saw the first seven getreleased.
Um, with, as you said, withoutuh let's call it a Hamas-like
hitch.
There were no ceremonies, therewere no fanfare, there was no
none of what we saw in the past.
And for the first time, youknow, we held our breath,
Stuart.
We held our breath collectivelyas a c as a nation.
(03:27):
And I'm saying a Jewish nation,Israeli nation.
And as the day progressed, theamount of people getting into
hostage square exploded.
Now, on the weekend, in case youmissed it, Steve Whitkoff, uh
Mr.
Kushner and his wife IvankaTrum, Jared Kushner, were also
at um hostage square, givingjust saying a few words in
(03:52):
English.
Half a million people, between400 and 500,000 people were
there.
And if you could understand thatIsrael is all of nine million
people, so you can only imaginethe just do the math of what it
could be like in your communityif you had that kind of that
kind of reaction.
But people are coming in fromall over the country, they
wanted to be part of a history,a positive history.
(04:14):
Two years ago, to the date onthe Hebrew calendar of the
October 7th massacre thatstarted on the Jewish holiday of
Shmeny at Sevet.
That's how many, how how whenthese hostages come home.
Jews, Israelis were eitherwatching it on live stream,
catching it on the news,wherever they were, they were
(04:35):
live, it didn't make adifference.
Everyone was tuned into this tosee 20 faces come home.
Because 28, unfortunately,another 28 had died.
And as of course, as of thismorning, only four of the 28
dead have been returned.
There's a whole question of howthe balance may or may ever not
(04:56):
come home.
But Stuart, the beauty is thatthis that I've been wearing now
for close to two years, Stuart,can come off.
They're home.
This is the first time in twoyears, and that is the elation
that every Jew Israeli with aheart has has today.
And as they look to the nextstep, as you say, the peace,
(05:18):
this is now the question, is nowwhat's at stake.
Because this is not an Israeliterritory per se.
Yes, by technically, this wecould call the Gaza Strip and
the West Bank Israeli territory,but I don't want to get into
that.
Is where Palestinians want tolive.
And this is where thePalestinians can't seem to live
without peace without peace.
They do it's terror.
(05:39):
There's no economics, theeducation is has was just filled
with hate, as we've talked onnumerous occasions, and the
world is getting together underDonald Trump with Donald Trump
leading the charge.
As I'm reading this here, alsoformer Prime Minister Tony Blair
will be leading this whole ideaof creating a Gaza redevelopment
(05:59):
until the reformed Palestinianauthorities prepare to take
over.
Apparently, this Trump-ledeconomic development is gonna
see and attract internationalinvestment.
Qatar?
Saudi Arabia?
If you're in the real estategame, this could be very
interesting.
I don't know.
But what's happening here,Stuart, is now the next phase.
(06:22):
The world tried to force aPalestinian state a scant month
ago by doing this dumb dumbdeclaration of the United
Nations.
That was the way all thinking.
The so-called conventionalwisdom, and I use that very
sarcastically, because I don'tthink that there is any wisdom
(06:43):
behind the people who made aunilateral declaration, because
that it was just throwing shitinto the wind.
But here is Donald Trump saying,uh-uh, because that doesn't give
Israel security, that doesn'tbring stability to the Middle
East, that just brings in a newfaction, a new problem, and the
same old hatred, and the cyclecontinues.
(07:05):
The big fear Israelis have, allthe while looking east to Iran
and going, whoa, whoa, whoa,we're focusing on these guys,
but what about those guys?
And while Iran will say thatthey support this deal, it's all
bullshit because they don't carefor the Palestinians.
Because if they cared for thePalestinians, they wouldn't have
(07:26):
fired arbitrary rockets thatlanded in the West Bank.
Nobody, like whatever.
And if Egypt and Jordan andLebanon and Syria and all those
others really cared about thePalestinians, they would have
let them into their country,which they did not.
What's about to happen here,Stuart, is is this crazy thing
that Israel and Hamas are notinvited to this, which is not a
(07:49):
terrible thing.
At first I thought, why not?
But Israel actually shouldn'tlet Trump run it.
Because Trump has succeeded atsomething that nobody else has.
Nope.
And this is another opportunity,Stuart.
I think that with Donald Trump,you know, the president of
peace, that's what they calledhim, Stuart.
President of peace.
I know the Nobel committeedoesn't think so.
SPEAKER_00 (08:10):
Well, actually, that that that's actually a misnomer
and a mistake.
That he was in presidence in 15days over the deciding period,
because January 25th is when allnominations have to be sent in
based off of material facts.
So all what he did in his secondterm, which I believe and agree
with you totally, was definitelyearned that prize.
(08:34):
He wasn't actually a realcandidate of that.
So I know I know that I knowthat like I just want to correct
that.
SPEAKER_01 (08:43):
I uh you can correct me all you want, but you know
the problem, Miss Stuart?
Yep, it doesn't matter.
Nope, you know, the exceptionshave been made and things have
been done for the Nobel Prize.
Stuart Stuart, I'm not talkingabout the Nobel Peace Prize, I'm
talking about in general, otherthings people are willing to
(09:04):
bend rules because this is asuper exceptional situation.
But here's what's here's thething, Stuart, and I'm gonna
pump this back to you.
I think this is a crazyalliance.
I think that you know, the lasttime we saw this was when Bill
Clinton tried to bring in abunch of countries together to
fight Saddam Hussein in Iraq totry to create this weird
alliance.
(09:25):
Um this was a at the time it wasa military alliance to defend,
you know, the region.
And again, Clinton told Israelstay out of it, we'll take care
of you.
And at the time, Israel said,uh, yeah, but no.
This time I'm curious, Stuart,what's this alliance gonna cook
up?
Because you know, the presidentof Indonesia doesn't want
(09:46):
Israelis on his on his territorybecause the world gymnastics
tournament is gonna be there,and he doesn't want Jews there.
So, really, Stuart, what is theworld gonna actually?
SPEAKER_00 (09:58):
So I I I was gonna go cooking down that path.
So, thanks for the tea up.
You know, reality is UnitedNations was created on the heels
of the end of World War II, andthat became one of the biggest
centers of hate that exists inthe world.
So I do share David's uhoptimism over what might come,
(10:24):
uh, and if you can't tell, I'mbeing very sarcastic, that may
come of this new alliance, uh,this new group that's gonna
dictate what goes on in thatstrip called the Gaza Strip.
Now, I I can tell you thatwhat's changed now, and where
(10:45):
the Indonesian leader I thinkhas issues, is that the form of
of religion that they're tryingto promote is the seventh
century.
Let's understand where thesepeople are coming from and where
their ideology is sort ofremained for now.
I'm hopeful, because I like tobe the optimist sometimes, very
(11:09):
rarely, but in this time, thatmaybe the world will shift its
ideology from the seventhcentury BC to make it somewhere
towards the modern era.
Again, we've shown pictures,David.
We've talked about what theoasis in the Middle East looked
like in 1965.
(11:31):
And we've shown what it lookslike today.
It's a regressive society.
And you know, society seems togo down that path every so many
hundreds of years until it getsa snap and pivots to the future.
And maybe this is thatopportunity where the world may
(11:53):
actually move forward.
Yes, the Qataris have been atthe center of evil for a very
long time, and now they seem tohave found themselves a seat of
a table of peace.
Does that mean the leopardschanged its stripes?
Probably not.
But you got to be hopeful atsome point because what did we
(12:13):
gain?
We gained our 20 lives back, wegained 20 bodies or will gain 20
bodies back.
We will have called this issue agood armistice because that's
all this is.
It's a ceasefire.
It is not a peace of any kind.
If you followed the news, whichit clearly wasn't very popular,
(12:37):
Hamas was going through thestrip, murdering and killing
anyone that they thought or wasin their path that was for this
peace arrangement.
And I gotta tell you, the vacuumthat's occurring in Gaza Strip
(12:57):
is probably as dangerous as thevacuum that occurred when the
Ayatollah Khomeini took power inIran.
Everyone thought that was goingto be peace and the corruption
was going to end, and yet thatbecame the birth of the
seventh-century religion thatthe Ayatollah chairs.
(13:19):
But, you know, we are here todaycelebrating the lives that have
been returned.
We talked about it on Friday inanticipation of today, and today
it's a reality.
It's historic.
It is a dawn that could be a newMiddle East.
Does that mean it's going tostart today?
(13:41):
Does that mean the ripple, thestone in the pond will start
today?
Maybe.
If you're a Jew in the world,you're hopeful.
If you're an enemy of the state,you're doubtful.
SPEAKER_01 (13:57):
David?
Stuart, you know what you justsaid was very interesting
because what you just what youwhat you I don't want to dwell
on this too much.
We'll leave that for anotherrant.
But the haters came out, Stuart,in full force in many, many
areas saying London, thestruggle hasn't ended.
(14:17):
And that's the interestingthing, is now that the two years
later, now all of you who weredoubting us and calling us crazy
and saying that's not true.
These are pro-Palestinian,they're not.
What you're seeing here is notpeople who are pursuing peace,
pursuing death.
And Stuart, I gotta tell you,I've heard this in many corners
in Canada, in the United States,in the West, it still has to be
(14:39):
a one-state solution, accordingto them.
These haters don't want peace inthe region.
The amazing thing is, Stuart, isif you look forward, if you look
at areas historically thatrevived itself through
economics, the societies werebetter.
But if you can't explain topeople, if people don't
(15:00):
understand what the benefits areand what's going on here, it
ain't gonna work.
And if people are not gonna bewilling to embrace change, it's
not gonna work.
And the problem is, Stuart, thatHamas has already deployed
itself back into the into theinto Gaza.
We saw thousands of themimmediately rushing.
They uh they again, instead ofshowing, you know, dressed up in
(15:22):
military garb as they weresupposed to per the Geneva
Convention, they walked aroundin civilian clothing, they
renamed themselves the GazaSecurity Force, not Hamas, and
they shot and killed people whothey thought were traitors,
including an influencer who fortwo years was land-based in
Israel, which is hilarious inits own right.
(15:42):
And yet, what is the futuregonna hold?
Future cannot be positive ifonly one side wants it.
It's you know, this is amarriage of inconvenience.
I get it.
I I get it.
No, you know, both sides are aremad at the other, I get it, and
I'm being very, you know, cheekyabout the like the way I'm
(16:04):
saying it.
But here we go again.
Hamas is threatening again, theyhave learned nothing, they're
playing games again, thecountdown to the next Jewish
massacre has already begun.
That's what they're putting outthere into social media, into
into the people.
They've learned nothing.
(16:25):
So the only thing I could say toMr.
Trump and the people who aregoing to Shah almost to do this
in Egypt don't give in to theterrorists, don't be naive.
Qatar has pulled the wool overyour eyes and has somehow got
you to believe that they'repeacemakers.
Sure.
Okay.
(16:46):
Turkey, who's been calling, youknow, Ardogan has been calling
for Israel's destruction, sure.
You've got a bunch of people whohate Israel at that table.
Trump's shown he can support andbe a leader for Israel.
Now the question is with all ofthose haters at the table,
Stewart, what's gonna come out?
(17:06):
Because Israel, every timeIsrael takes a first step, she
gets hurt.
This time she didn't take afirst step.
And she's still gonna get hurtbecause Hamas is redeployed.
Hamas continues to demand, evenduring these little hostages,
they played games who should bereleased to the last second.
They reneged on this deal untilthey got their arm twisted.
(17:30):
Stuart, I hope and pray that thefuture of the region is quiet.
Peace, hopefully, maybe one day,but let's hope for some quiet.
SPEAKER_00 (17:41):
And that brings us to another podcast to a close.
We truly appreciate you joiningin.
We're here every Monday,Wednesday, Friday noon Eastern,
except when we don't want to.
Catch us on our website, catchus on all the verticals.
Yep, David.
We want to be here.
All right, take care, guys.
See you real soon.
Wednesdays, chopping on theblock too.
(18:03):
Take care.
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