November 28, 2025 • 21 mins
Your Thanksgiving dinner was ruined because you've stopped thinking for yourself. The political divide isn't just about policy disagreement; it's an ideological rot that has weaponized every aspect of our lives, from the classroom to the courtroom, forcing us to choose a side and abandon critical thought. Today on The Rant Network, we argue that the true crisis isn't the left or the right, but the blind adherence to a party line that turns every conversation into a tribal battle, where "ideology beats math" and pragmatic solutions are sacrificed for dogmatic purity on issues like open borders, parental rights, and economic policy.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:03):
Ah, the post-turkey edition of the Rant Network,
ladies and gentlemen.
And maybe today we'll be talkingabout a few turkey.
Uh, hoping you're for those ofyou of American friends, we hope
you recovered from a day ofchick of turkey and other
things, football, family, andwhatever else that you got.
But you know, what's reallyincredible is that you hear
(00:26):
about during AmericanThanksgiving is families
couldn't get together.
Why?
Because the political divide gotin the way.
Well, we've talked about this inthis rent network a few times
about how families havecompletely lost their minds and
friends have lost their mindsbecause we don't agree.
But you know what is amazingthough is the reason we don't
(00:49):
agree is that the philosophiesthat these parties bring to the
table, the right, the left, itdoesn't matter, actually don't
let us think anymore.
Because if the left says, hey,if the sky is you know blue, and
the right says the sky is green,no matter what you bring to the
table in proof an attitude,can't listen to the other side.
(01:12):
It's frightening what has becomeof us that we've no longer been
able to think critically forourselves.
And when you have a JohnFetterman or another person like
that questioning their party'spolicies and thinkage, ooh,
shit, hits the fan.
Welcome back, ladies andgentlemen.
It's Friday.
We hope you enjoyed your week.
(01:33):
It's the Rant Network.
I'm David Tolmany, StuartBrisgale.
What we do every Monday,Wednesday, Friday, noon Eastern,
simple rant about politics,culture, crazy life, and so much
more.
Over the next 15 or so minutes,we just will take the time to
talk about a topic that reallyresonates in your world, in your
society, amongst your friends.
So sit back as Stuart and I diveinto yet again why people are
(01:57):
screwed up.
And I and I think that at thispoint, Stuart, you know, when I
think about it, somebody accusedme of being a Trumpist.
And I'm like, what does thatmean?
If you agree with Trump, you'rea Trumpist.
And when I said to them, if youmake a statement like that, then
you are a leftist.
(02:18):
And they're like, well, whatdoes that mean?
I said, because the leftbelieves that anything with
Trump is wrong, and therefore,if you are with Trump, you are
wrong.
Why can't you think criticallyfor yourself?
That there are things thatdifferent presidents have done,
different parties have done thatare actually okay.
(02:38):
But no, you have to toe theparty line to such an extent
that you can no longer think foryourself.
Stuart, I don't know what waslike at your Thanksgiving table,
but I'm pretty sure your otherfriends that you have, uh, that
must have been an interesting uhday on Thursday.
SPEAKER_00 (02:55):
You know, it was.
And let me just say, I went forChinese food and I opted out of
turkey this year.
And and and you know what?
I figured there's less politicsin a Chinese food restaurant
than there is at uh at a turkeytable, you know, politics is the
circus, ideology is the script.
(03:20):
You know, like right now, David,um, it's not just America, but
America is suffering from badpolitics.
It's suffering from anideological takeover.
You know, the left side, youknow, holes in power, the right
side, beliefs and controls.
(03:42):
Right?
There's political shifts,ideological drives now
institutions, shapes education,media, justice, and culture.
The West is divided, right?
The foundational beliefs thatyou and I grew up on, David,
(04:02):
they don't exist.
You know, if you're talkingabout Imma Hamas and Israel,
look, the Democratic Party splitideologically, right?
One side calling for theanti-fada for calling the
Israelis an occupying force, youknow, anti-Semitic rhetoric was
(04:29):
being, you know, applauded bythe squad, demogragging the
Jews, right?
You and I spoke about this fromOctober 8th until to maybe a
couple of weeks ago.
We talk we bring it up over andover and over again.
You know, it's it's the largestatrocity since the Holocaust of
(04:53):
modern era.
And you talk about ideologyversus right political, the
inflation, you know, theeconomy, whether or not we're
talking about energyrestrictions, overspending,
(05:14):
drilling policies, like thathurts everyday Americans,
Canadians, for what a price of agallon or a liter of oil costs,
right?
Whether it's going pro-electricor going anti-electric, is this
(05:35):
you know where we need to be,right?
David, let me ask you aquestion.
Do you feel ideological pressurein the meetings that you attend?
No.
Okay.
Let me just ask you anotherquestion.
Let's talk about the crime inAmerica.
Do you believe in the UnitedStates we should have no caste
(05:58):
bail?
No.
Uh, how about prosecutors thatare elected or not elected, that
are appointed for life, that arerefusing to charge people?
No.
How about demoralizing anddefunding police?
No.
Okay.
(06:19):
How about hiding uh schoolgender transitions from parents?
I think it's horrific.
How about DEI?
Remember, we spoke with we wereone of the first people, David,
on talking about DEI in Harvardand where it came from that.
You know, what do you feel aboutDEI?
SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
I think it's completely misguided.
SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
How about the utilization of test scores,
right?
When it comes to school,important, unimportant.
SPEAKER_01 (06:50):
Stuart, test scores are important to a certain
absolutely they're important toa certain extent.
But it again, you know, what arethey used for, how they use for
is a different conversation, buttest scores are important,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (07:03):
Remember, ideological versus politics.
How about teachers in theclassroom?
You're married to one, so am I,and your mother was one.
SPEAKER_01 (07:12):
What's your question?
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
Punish teachers for free speech or not?
SPEAKER_01 (07:17):
No, I think that there's there's a be there's a
there's a line.
I'm a teacher, and I know thatwhat's the power the what can
happen in a classroom if you letpeople go off on their own.
It's very dangerous.
SPEAKER_00 (07:30):
So again, so now we've weaponized the classroom,
we've weakonized the courts.
We weckon is is there notselective prosecution?
SPEAKER_01 (07:41):
I can't wait for the transcript to see this.
The weekonized.
Uh, listen, little bugs bunnythere.
Can you repeat your question?
SPEAKER_00 (07:48):
Sorry.
Do you believe the courts areweaponized?
And then I said, Do you thinkthere's been selective
prosecution in the last eightyears?
SPEAKER_01 (07:57):
I think that the courts have been politicized.
SPEAKER_00 (08:02):
You do?
Yeah.
How about the judges?
Do you think the judges are thejudges are themselves they're
revolting?
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
Listen, when a judge stands there and says, I'm
Republican or Democrat, you'vealready created for yourself a
political angle.
Come on.
SPEAKER_00 (08:15):
And so, in other words, you know, there's they're
active, they're activistrulings, not rulings based off
of law.
And uh not always, but yeah.
Okay.
So as I go down this list that Ihad to generate, right?
(08:36):
Let me ask you another question.
Do you think open borders areour problem?
Yes or no?
Uh yes.
Higher taxes?
Yes.
How about they what was theweakening of national defense
and the incursions that happenedunder the previous
administration?
SPEAKER_01 (08:52):
See, hold on.
Now you're politicizing.
Now you're creating you'reyou're making the political
statement here.
See, this is this is exactlywhat people hate, what what
you're doing right now isbecause you're trying to prove a
point.
SPEAKER_00 (09:03):
Okay, I'm proving the point.
I'm going through it.
Was the national defense of theUnited States weakened in the
last eight years?
Yes.
Okay, how about unaffordabilityof energy?
Apparently, yes.
How about crime in America?
Did that go up or go down?
It went up, and how aboutparental rights?
(09:23):
How about religious freedoms?
How about the deep dark state?
Again, politics versus ideology.
SPEAKER_01 (09:34):
But you see, even the way you phrased it, I don't
know if you're political, you'repoliticizing because if your
question is, do you believe inreligious freedoms?
Yes or no, that's a neutralquestion.
Do I believe in in teachers andfree speech?
That's a neutral question.
Yes or no.
But we as a society want to pullpeople our way, so we lead the
(09:57):
questions.
We're like a lawyer, we'releading them to what we want to
believe.
SPEAKER_00 (10:00):
I'm not leading anybody, I'm just speaking my
mind, David.
Okay.
Let me just go through what Ibelieve are the the green checks
that every American or everyfree western person wants.
They want a secure border.
Yes, no.
How about a strong, strongeconomy?
SPEAKER_01 (10:20):
Apparently, apparently, apparently not.
Well, apparently, there's ablock of people on the left who
believe in open borders, theybelieve and let everybody in.
So not every westerner agreeswith you.
SPEAKER_00 (10:33):
No, I'm I'm saying the majority of Westerners.
SPEAKER_01 (10:36):
I don't agree either.
I don't think that a majoritydo.
Do you think a normal personwants to?
No, no, no, let me rephrase it.
Let me rephrase it.
Let me rephrase it.
Let me rephrase it.
SPEAKER_00 (10:45):
Do you think do you think the understanding of what
a secure border gives and doesnot get?
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
Now you're now your question makes more sense.
Do I think people understandwhat a secure border is?
No, they look at the EU, a lotof them, and they're going,
Look, we're fine, we have openborders, everything's kosher.
And so the people majority, ifyou take Western society,
because you didn't say American,you said Western society, which
does include Western Europe, andthey have open borders, and
they're saying we're okay.
(11:14):
Okay.
So so you just gotta understandis the question is, do you do
you like what do you like?
Do you believe now?
Open borders versus immigration,different story.
But open borders, look, peoplecome and go through the Europe,
no problem, no but no passports.
SPEAKER_00 (11:32):
So again, I'm saying secure border, strong economy.
How about energy independence?
SPEAKER_01 (11:39):
Um again, you've got people who believe that you
parental authority, stop.
You can believe people whobelieve people believe in energy
independence, and again, this iswhere the neutral is.
I don't agree with a lot of thephilosophies, but this is the
message (11:53):
energy independence does not mean oil.
SPEAKER_00 (11:58):
No, of course, I agree.
It doesn't mean oil.
Okay, energy independence meansI'm being unlike on any other.
SPEAKER_01 (12:07):
I think that a majority of people will say to
you, we want to be energyindependent.
How we get there is where theline is divided.
SPEAKER_00 (12:16):
I don't believe that there that people agree on how
to get there because even yousaid oil versus electric is not
the argument, is not theargument being forced to choose,
being forced to choose versushaving free choice and let free
markets dictate like beta versusVHS.
Free markets choose what'sdivided.
Right, let's move on.
(12:37):
We got a few more minutes here.
Parental authority, whereimportant, unimportant?
SPEAKER_01 (12:43):
Where in the classroom, in life, in the
classroom.
Of course.
Listen, Stuart, no, not ofcourse.
Listen, I believe, I believeit's the parents that have to
make the final decision, not theteachers.
That's my personal opinion.
Okay.
unknown (12:57):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (12:58):
So, how about the rule of law?
Do you think those that commitcrimes within a country should
be punished to the fullestextent of the law provides?
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
I think that you got to be careful that words,
because I agree that theapplause should be applied
accordingly, not the fullestextent, because not everything
needs to go to the extreme.
But if you commit a crime, thereis a punishment, there is a
consequence.
We what we've created in thiscountry's in our countries is
I'm not responsible for what Ido.
(13:30):
So therefore, don't I there'ssomebody else to blame for why I
committed a crime?
That's my point.
SPEAKER_00 (13:36):
Okay, but again, so let's the border ideology is is
is not incompetence, right?
If millions of people cross aborder a year, is that not
considered mismanagement?
It's it's directed as a resultof ideological saying borders
that say that borders are racistbecause we want we want to have
(13:59):
this screaming, obvious nationwithout border, then they give
no nation.
SPEAKER_01 (14:04):
Now you're politicizing, you're going down
that political road.
To me, if you're telling mewe're gonna take in a million
people in the United States,which is a small percentage,
Canada is different.
But if you say, because amillion on 40 is different than
a million on 300, but if you'retelling me we're gonna take in a
hundred million people legally,then I'm fine, but not
(14:27):
illegally.
You want to come in on a visa?
No problem.
Your visa expires and you don'trenew it, out you go.
Okay, there is there has to be apre there has to be uh a system,
otherwise it's anarchy.
SPEAKER_00 (14:42):
You know, the left says it can't support this ally
that's under attack becausetheir ideology internally is
tearing the democrats apart.
So campus mobs, congressionalracists activistly chanting
(15:04):
destruction of Israel.
Look at what this ideologicalrot has brought to the political
arena.
SPEAKER_01 (15:11):
Well, here you go.
Here's here's the political,here's how you politicized it.
The way the look to me, whatI've seen is that the left has
embraced a philosophy that theybelieve ties into Islamophobia.
As a result, once you go downthat road, it brings into play
(15:33):
other things.
Now they have an ideologicalproblem.
You brought up actually a reallygood point.
This is the point where theideology is you tell us you
believe in democracy, but you'residing with a terrorist.
You but say you believe in in inyou know in an ally, but in
order to get your point across,you need to create an idea, a
(15:58):
narrative that it's genocidal,that they're causing a famine,
that there are human rightsviolations.
You have to create thatnarrative to justify your
position.
Ergo.
SPEAKER_00 (16:14):
The economy, right?
You're you're you know, let'slook at Mandami.
You're paying for theirfantasies, grocery bills
climbing, gas prices are insane,housing's unaffordable, all
because ideological beats math,right?
The goal is that.
SPEAKER_01 (16:34):
Stop right there, stop right there.
Okay, great comment.
We know housing has becomeunaffordable in New York.
Solution.
We try to create a we try tocreate a free economy system,
which we fix because the curtainfree free economy is not
working, or we impose socialism.
(16:54):
Those are the two ideologies onthe table right now.
And what Mamdani says is I'mgonna fix it with socialism.
Now, if you look at it rightnow, globally, it doesn't work,
it's been tried in variouscountries, and it's created an
even more economic hardships,not prosperity.
(17:15):
So a city like New York that wasbuilt on capitalism, free
market, has gone awry.
It doesn't mean you fix it bybreaking it entirely, or
abandoning it.
SPEAKER_00 (17:28):
Right, right.
So so again, you know,Republicans, you know, stay, you
know, their comment is stoppunishing American workers,
right?
Okay, wait, let's let's let'swrap this up.
SPEAKER_01 (17:39):
We're it's we're already well past our let the
point we started this this thisrant was folks who are on the
left or on the right aren'treally listening to the other
side as well.
Because let's be realistic,okay?
If I were to take a pureconservative that you guys
(18:00):
believe in, a pure conservativein the right, doesn't believe in
free education, doesn't believein free in health in a free in a
public health care system, itthat's what you believe.
That's not what's happening.
At the same time, a pure personon the a Democrat doesn't
(18:21):
believe in everything is undergovernment control.
There are certain things thatare part of the free market, and
that's why these ideologies area little, you know, are are are
misunderstood.
Is that people on the right andpeople on the left on the on the
on the left of center, the rightof center aren't pure there,
they they're still a blend.
(18:42):
When you go further out, that'swhen they start to get a little
stupid.
And the further out you go, theyget even more stupid because
they're so hardcore believingthat they don't even want to
listen.
With all due respect, even tothe right, when you talk about a
clucker Carlson who is nobetter, no better than people on
(19:04):
the left, because his commentsare misguided.
SPEAKER_00 (19:10):
I agree, but you know, David, you know, I think
you're right.
We've got well over the quarterhour.
I'm gonna say wrap it up.
SPEAKER_01 (19:18):
No, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, but don't
touch that music button becauseyou didn't do it right, you
didn't finish this right.
You started this rant right, butyou just went off and wanted to
prove a point, which is theStuart Brisgale way of doing
things.
I'm gonna prove my point, folks.
The question is did you if youhear what Stuart said, all these
questions that are there are theconversation subjects that you
(19:38):
should be talking about at yourdinner table.
Do we believe in defunding thepolice?
As a question.
Should we be defunding?
Let's have a conversation aboutit.
Don't tell me what to do.
Let's have a conversation, prosand cons.
Do you believe that the economy?
Do you believe in open borders?
Have a conversation.
The party you're supportingtoday is political, they're not
(20:00):
real.
A lot of them are just trying toget your vote.
So if you're sitting there todayand you're saying, yes, I'm
gonna believe whatever theRepublicans say is and I'm gonna
blindly follow it, that's asdangerous as the left following
it.
Correct.
You can't.
You must question whether or notthe policies presented make any
sense.
And truth be told, is there arepeople on the right who are
(20:22):
looking at Donald Trump andsaying these tariffs, do they
make sense?
That is the right conversation.
But to say whatever the rightdoes is only right is not
correct either.
And with all due respect,Mamdani, if Mamdani and his
voters would actually not get,you know, like would not worry
about getting voted in, butreally fix New York, then maybe
(20:46):
pieces of socialism could bebrought in.
But to apply all of it as aphilosophy and say we're done, I
think that's scary.
Stuart, I'm gonna give you thelast chance to give me your your
your two cents worth on what Ijust said.
SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
I don't think much of socialism makes much sense.
I have not seen the applicationcontinue in any country with any
amount of time in a positive,refractive way.
SPEAKER_01 (21:14):
Uh Stuart just did not make it.
December.
You know what December means forus?
December means that we're comingin towards the end of the year
and we have our year.
So, folks, if you have anystories that really made your
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Put it in the comments.
(21:35):
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Whether it's on social media orwhether it's on our Facebook
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and we will see you December1st.
Ah, the post-turkey edition of the Rant Network,
ladies and gentlemen.
And maybe today we'll be talkingabout a few turkey.
Uh, hoping you're for those ofyou of American friends, we hope
you recovered from a day ofchick of turkey and other
things, football, family, andwhatever else that you got.
But you know, what's reallyincredible is that you hear
(00:26):
about during AmericanThanksgiving is families
couldn't get together.
Why?
Because the political divide gotin the way.
Well, we've talked about this inthis rent network a few times
about how families havecompletely lost their minds and
friends have lost their mindsbecause we don't agree.
But you know what is amazingthough is the reason we don't
(00:49):
agree is that the philosophiesthat these parties bring to the
table, the right, the left, itdoesn't matter, actually don't
let us think anymore.
Because if the left says, hey,if the sky is you know blue, and
the right says the sky is green,no matter what you bring to the
table in proof an attitude,can't listen to the other side.
(01:12):
It's frightening what has becomeof us that we've no longer been
able to think critically forourselves.
And when you have a JohnFetterman or another person like
that questioning their party'spolicies and thinkage, ooh,
shit, hits the fan.
Welcome back, ladies andgentlemen.
It's Friday.
We hope you enjoyed your week.
(01:33):
It's the Rant Network.
I'm David Tolmany, StuartBrisgale.
What we do every Monday,Wednesday, Friday, noon Eastern,
simple rant about politics,culture, crazy life, and so much
more.
Over the next 15 or so minutes,we just will take the time to
talk about a topic that reallyresonates in your world, in your
society, amongst your friends.
So sit back as Stuart and I diveinto yet again why people are
(01:57):
screwed up.
And I and I think that at thispoint, Stuart, you know, when I
think about it, somebody accusedme of being a Trumpist.
And I'm like, what does thatmean?
If you agree with Trump, you'rea Trumpist.
And when I said to them, if youmake a statement like that, then
you are a leftist.
(02:18):
And they're like, well, whatdoes that mean?
I said, because the leftbelieves that anything with
Trump is wrong, and therefore,if you are with Trump, you are
wrong.
Why can't you think criticallyfor yourself?
That there are things thatdifferent presidents have done,
different parties have done thatare actually okay.
(02:38):
But no, you have to toe theparty line to such an extent
that you can no longer think foryourself.
Stuart, I don't know what waslike at your Thanksgiving table,
but I'm pretty sure your otherfriends that you have, uh, that
must have been an interesting uhday on Thursday.
SPEAKER_00 (02:55):
You know, it was.
And let me just say, I went forChinese food and I opted out of
turkey this year.
And and and you know what?
I figured there's less politicsin a Chinese food restaurant
than there is at uh at a turkeytable, you know, politics is the
circus, ideology is the script.
(03:20):
You know, like right now, David,um, it's not just America, but
America is suffering from badpolitics.
It's suffering from anideological takeover.
You know, the left side, youknow, holes in power, the right
side, beliefs and controls.
(03:42):
Right?
There's political shifts,ideological drives now
institutions, shapes education,media, justice, and culture.
The West is divided, right?
The foundational beliefs thatyou and I grew up on, David,
(04:02):
they don't exist.
You know, if you're talkingabout Imma Hamas and Israel,
look, the Democratic Party splitideologically, right?
One side calling for theanti-fada for calling the
Israelis an occupying force, youknow, anti-Semitic rhetoric was
(04:29):
being, you know, applauded bythe squad, demogragging the
Jews, right?
You and I spoke about this fromOctober 8th until to maybe a
couple of weeks ago.
We talk we bring it up over andover and over again.
You know, it's it's the largestatrocity since the Holocaust of
(04:53):
modern era.
And you talk about ideologyversus right political, the
inflation, you know, theeconomy, whether or not we're
talking about energyrestrictions, overspending,
(05:14):
drilling policies, like thathurts everyday Americans,
Canadians, for what a price of agallon or a liter of oil costs,
right?
Whether it's going pro-electricor going anti-electric, is this
(05:35):
you know where we need to be,right?
David, let me ask you aquestion.
Do you feel ideological pressurein the meetings that you attend?
No.
Okay.
Let me just ask you anotherquestion.
Let's talk about the crime inAmerica.
Do you believe in the UnitedStates we should have no caste
(05:58):
bail?
No.
Uh, how about prosecutors thatare elected or not elected, that
are appointed for life, that arerefusing to charge people?
No.
How about demoralizing anddefunding police?
No.
Okay.
(06:19):
How about hiding uh schoolgender transitions from parents?
I think it's horrific.
How about DEI?
Remember, we spoke with we wereone of the first people, David,
on talking about DEI in Harvardand where it came from that.
You know, what do you feel aboutDEI?
SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
I think it's completely misguided.
SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
How about the utilization of test scores,
right?
When it comes to school,important, unimportant.
SPEAKER_01 (06:50):
Stuart, test scores are important to a certain
absolutely they're important toa certain extent.
But it again, you know, what arethey used for, how they use for
is a different conversation, buttest scores are important,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (07:03):
Remember, ideological versus politics.
How about teachers in theclassroom?
You're married to one, so am I,and your mother was one.
SPEAKER_01 (07:12):
What's your question?
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
Punish teachers for free speech or not?
SPEAKER_01 (07:17):
No, I think that there's there's a be there's a
there's a line.
I'm a teacher, and I know thatwhat's the power the what can
happen in a classroom if you letpeople go off on their own.
It's very dangerous.
SPEAKER_00 (07:30):
So again, so now we've weaponized the classroom,
we've weakonized the courts.
We weckon is is there notselective prosecution?
SPEAKER_01 (07:41):
I can't wait for the transcript to see this.
The weekonized.
Uh, listen, little bugs bunnythere.
Can you repeat your question?
SPEAKER_00 (07:48):
Sorry.
Do you believe the courts areweaponized?
And then I said, Do you thinkthere's been selective
prosecution in the last eightyears?
SPEAKER_01 (07:57):
I think that the courts have been politicized.
SPEAKER_00 (08:02):
You do?
Yeah.
How about the judges?
Do you think the judges are thejudges are themselves they're
revolting?
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
Listen, when a judge stands there and says, I'm
Republican or Democrat, you'vealready created for yourself a
political angle.
Come on.
SPEAKER_00 (08:15):
And so, in other words, you know, there's they're
active, they're activistrulings, not rulings based off
of law.
And uh not always, but yeah.
Okay.
So as I go down this list that Ihad to generate, right?
(08:36):
Let me ask you another question.
Do you think open borders areour problem?
Yes or no?
Uh yes.
Higher taxes?
Yes.
How about they what was theweakening of national defense
and the incursions that happenedunder the previous
administration?
SPEAKER_01 (08:52):
See, hold on.
Now you're politicizing.
Now you're creating you'reyou're making the political
statement here.
See, this is this is exactlywhat people hate, what what
you're doing right now isbecause you're trying to prove a
point.
SPEAKER_00 (09:03):
Okay, I'm proving the point.
I'm going through it.
Was the national defense of theUnited States weakened in the
last eight years?
Yes.
Okay, how about unaffordabilityof energy?
Apparently, yes.
How about crime in America?
Did that go up or go down?
It went up, and how aboutparental rights?
(09:23):
How about religious freedoms?
How about the deep dark state?
Again, politics versus ideology.
SPEAKER_01 (09:34):
But you see, even the way you phrased it, I don't
know if you're political, you'repoliticizing because if your
question is, do you believe inreligious freedoms?
Yes or no, that's a neutralquestion.
Do I believe in in teachers andfree speech?
That's a neutral question.
Yes or no.
But we as a society want to pullpeople our way, so we lead the
(09:57):
questions.
We're like a lawyer, we'releading them to what we want to
believe.
SPEAKER_00 (10:00):
I'm not leading anybody, I'm just speaking my
mind, David.
Okay.
Let me just go through what Ibelieve are the the green checks
that every American or everyfree western person wants.
They want a secure border.
Yes, no.
How about a strong, strongeconomy?
SPEAKER_01 (10:20):
Apparently, apparently, apparently not.
Well, apparently, there's ablock of people on the left who
believe in open borders, theybelieve and let everybody in.
So not every westerner agreeswith you.
SPEAKER_00 (10:33):
No, I'm I'm saying the majority of Westerners.
SPEAKER_01 (10:36):
I don't agree either.
I don't think that a majoritydo.
Do you think a normal personwants to?
No, no, no, let me rephrase it.
Let me rephrase it.
Let me rephrase it.
Let me rephrase it.
SPEAKER_00 (10:45):
Do you think do you think the understanding of what
a secure border gives and doesnot get?
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
Now you're now your question makes more sense.
Do I think people understandwhat a secure border is?
No, they look at the EU, a lotof them, and they're going,
Look, we're fine, we have openborders, everything's kosher.
And so the people majority, ifyou take Western society,
because you didn't say American,you said Western society, which
does include Western Europe, andthey have open borders, and
they're saying we're okay.
(11:14):
Okay.
So so you just gotta understandis the question is, do you do
you like what do you like?
Do you believe now?
Open borders versus immigration,different story.
But open borders, look, peoplecome and go through the Europe,
no problem, no but no passports.
SPEAKER_00 (11:32):
So again, I'm saying secure border, strong economy.
How about energy independence?
SPEAKER_01 (11:39):
Um again, you've got people who believe that you
parental authority, stop.
You can believe people whobelieve people believe in energy
independence, and again, this iswhere the neutral is.
I don't agree with a lot of thephilosophies, but this is the
message (11:53):
energy independence does not mean oil.
SPEAKER_00 (11:58):
No, of course, I agree.
It doesn't mean oil.
Okay, energy independence meansI'm being unlike on any other.
SPEAKER_01 (12:07):
I think that a majority of people will say to
you, we want to be energyindependent.
How we get there is where theline is divided.
SPEAKER_00 (12:16):
I don't believe that there that people agree on how
to get there because even yousaid oil versus electric is not
the argument, is not theargument being forced to choose,
being forced to choose versushaving free choice and let free
markets dictate like beta versusVHS.
Free markets choose what'sdivided.
Right, let's move on.
(12:37):
We got a few more minutes here.
Parental authority, whereimportant, unimportant?
SPEAKER_01 (12:43):
Where in the classroom, in life, in the
classroom.
Of course.
Listen, Stuart, no, not ofcourse.
Listen, I believe, I believeit's the parents that have to
make the final decision, not theteachers.
That's my personal opinion.
Okay.
unknown (12:57):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (12:58):
So, how about the rule of law?
Do you think those that commitcrimes within a country should
be punished to the fullestextent of the law provides?
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
I think that you got to be careful that words,
because I agree that theapplause should be applied
accordingly, not the fullestextent, because not everything
needs to go to the extreme.
But if you commit a crime, thereis a punishment, there is a
consequence.
We what we've created in thiscountry's in our countries is
I'm not responsible for what Ido.
(13:30):
So therefore, don't I there'ssomebody else to blame for why I
committed a crime?
That's my point.
SPEAKER_00 (13:36):
Okay, but again, so let's the border ideology is is
is not incompetence, right?
If millions of people cross aborder a year, is that not
considered mismanagement?
It's it's directed as a resultof ideological saying borders
that say that borders are racistbecause we want we want to have
(13:59):
this screaming, obvious nationwithout border, then they give
no nation.
SPEAKER_01 (14:04):
Now you're politicizing, you're going down
that political road.
To me, if you're telling mewe're gonna take in a million
people in the United States,which is a small percentage,
Canada is different.
But if you say, because amillion on 40 is different than
a million on 300, but if you'retelling me we're gonna take in a
hundred million people legally,then I'm fine, but not
(14:27):
illegally.
You want to come in on a visa?
No problem.
Your visa expires and you don'trenew it, out you go.
Okay, there is there has to be apre there has to be uh a system,
otherwise it's anarchy.
SPEAKER_00 (14:42):
You know, the left says it can't support this ally
that's under attack becausetheir ideology internally is
tearing the democrats apart.
So campus mobs, congressionalracists activistly chanting
(15:04):
destruction of Israel.
Look at what this ideologicalrot has brought to the political
arena.
SPEAKER_01 (15:11):
Well, here you go.
Here's here's the political,here's how you politicized it.
The way the look to me, whatI've seen is that the left has
embraced a philosophy that theybelieve ties into Islamophobia.
As a result, once you go downthat road, it brings into play
(15:33):
other things.
Now they have an ideologicalproblem.
You brought up actually a reallygood point.
This is the point where theideology is you tell us you
believe in democracy, but you'residing with a terrorist.
You but say you believe in in inyou know in an ally, but in
order to get your point across,you need to create an idea, a
(15:58):
narrative that it's genocidal,that they're causing a famine,
that there are human rightsviolations.
You have to create thatnarrative to justify your
position.
Ergo.
SPEAKER_00 (16:14):
The economy, right?
You're you're you know, let'slook at Mandami.
You're paying for theirfantasies, grocery bills
climbing, gas prices are insane,housing's unaffordable, all
because ideological beats math,right?
The goal is that.
SPEAKER_01 (16:34):
Stop right there, stop right there.
Okay, great comment.
We know housing has becomeunaffordable in New York.
Solution.
We try to create a we try tocreate a free economy system,
which we fix because the curtainfree free economy is not
working, or we impose socialism.
(16:54):
Those are the two ideologies onthe table right now.
And what Mamdani says is I'mgonna fix it with socialism.
Now, if you look at it rightnow, globally, it doesn't work,
it's been tried in variouscountries, and it's created an
even more economic hardships,not prosperity.
(17:15):
So a city like New York that wasbuilt on capitalism, free
market, has gone awry.
It doesn't mean you fix it bybreaking it entirely, or
abandoning it.
SPEAKER_00 (17:28):
Right, right.
So so again, you know,Republicans, you know, stay, you
know, their comment is stoppunishing American workers,
right?
Okay, wait, let's let's let'swrap this up.
SPEAKER_01 (17:39):
We're it's we're already well past our let the
point we started this this thisrant was folks who are on the
left or on the right aren'treally listening to the other
side as well.
Because let's be realistic,okay?
If I were to take a pureconservative that you guys
(18:00):
believe in, a pure conservativein the right, doesn't believe in
free education, doesn't believein free in health in a free in a
public health care system, itthat's what you believe.
That's not what's happening.
At the same time, a pure personon the a Democrat doesn't
(18:21):
believe in everything is undergovernment control.
There are certain things thatare part of the free market, and
that's why these ideologies area little, you know, are are are
misunderstood.
Is that people on the right andpeople on the left on the on the
on the left of center, the rightof center aren't pure there,
they they're still a blend.
(18:42):
When you go further out, that'swhen they start to get a little
stupid.
And the further out you go, theyget even more stupid because
they're so hardcore believingthat they don't even want to
listen.
With all due respect, even tothe right, when you talk about a
clucker Carlson who is nobetter, no better than people on
(19:04):
the left, because his commentsare misguided.
SPEAKER_00 (19:10):
I agree, but you know, David, you know, I think
you're right.
We've got well over the quarterhour.
I'm gonna say wrap it up.
SPEAKER_01 (19:18):
No, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, but don't
touch that music button becauseyou didn't do it right, you
didn't finish this right.
You started this rant right, butyou just went off and wanted to
prove a point, which is theStuart Brisgale way of doing
things.
I'm gonna prove my point, folks.
The question is did you if youhear what Stuart said, all these
questions that are there are theconversation subjects that you
(19:38):
should be talking about at yourdinner table.
Do we believe in defunding thepolice?
As a question.
Should we be defunding?
Let's have a conversation aboutit.
Don't tell me what to do.
Let's have a conversation, prosand cons.
Do you believe that the economy?
Do you believe in open borders?
Have a conversation.
The party you're supportingtoday is political, they're not
(20:00):
real.
A lot of them are just trying toget your vote.
So if you're sitting there todayand you're saying, yes, I'm
gonna believe whatever theRepublicans say is and I'm gonna
blindly follow it, that's asdangerous as the left following
it.
Correct.
You can't.
You must question whether or notthe policies presented make any
sense.
And truth be told, is there arepeople on the right who are
(20:22):
looking at Donald Trump andsaying these tariffs, do they
make sense?
That is the right conversation.
But to say whatever the rightdoes is only right is not
correct either.
And with all due respect,Mamdani, if Mamdani and his
voters would actually not get,you know, like would not worry
about getting voted in, butreally fix New York, then maybe
(20:46):
pieces of socialism could bebrought in.
But to apply all of it as aphilosophy and say we're done, I
think that's scary.
Stuart, I'm gonna give you thelast chance to give me your your
your two cents worth on what Ijust said.
SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
I don't think much of socialism makes much sense.
I have not seen the applicationcontinue in any country with any
amount of time in a positive,refractive way.
SPEAKER_01 (21:14):
Uh Stuart just did not make it.
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