February 4, 2024 • 13 mins
When Kristen faced a daunting health diagnosis, her world seemed to topple, but through faith, she found an unexpected source of resilience. Her story is a testament to the power of perseverance and a cornerstone of our heartfelt discussion on navigating life's tumultuous seas. In this episode, we lay bare the often-unspoken truth: life's trials spare no one, righteous or otherwise. Yet, it's not about seeking a life devoid of problems but finding solace in the promise of divine support. Drawn from the wisdom of Psalms and Isaiah, our conversation turns personal as we share narratives of struggle and the discovery that prayer and unwavering faith can be the instruments of profound personal growth and fortitude.
Reflecting on the extraordinary faith of Horatio Spafford, we unravel the myth that we are only given what we can bear. Instead, we shed light on the idea that it's through God's strength we find the ability to endure and emerge stronger. Challenging the 'It Gets Better' sentiment, we emphasize the significance of welcoming life's challenges as mechanisms for building a more resilient self. We discuss how children who gradually face adversity often grow into well-adjusted adults, illustrating the importance of not shying away from life's tests. Our episode culminates with an open invitation to listeners to seek companionship and strength in their spiritual walk, reinforcing that the journey of faith is marked not by the absence of storms but by the courage to sail through them.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, good evening everybody, and welcome to
another edition of the Jordanand Christian record show.
Tonight's topic is facinglife's problems, and I use the
word facing very deliberately,because there are some problems
we think we can avoid and someproblems you want to go to the
side of, and maybe some problemsyou want to push on somebody
else.
But, honestly, most of life'sreal serious problems, we just
have to face them.
We cannot run away from them,and so we're going to talk about
(00:22):
that tonight.
But before we do, kristin, goahead and pray for everybody,
please.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, lord, even when we don't feel like we are
making any progress, the truthis that we have already overcome
in you.
Because you have overcome, youhave the victory, and there's
the blood of the Lamb and theword of our testimony to prove
it.
God, we thank you for thehealing that has already come.
(00:46):
We thank you for therestoration.
We thank you for thebreakthrough.
Lord, I just pray for anyoneright now who's just facing a
wall where they don't know whatthey're going to do next.
God, that you would give themthe wisdom and the peace that
passes understanding, and wethank you for it In Jesus' name,
amen.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know, I love opening the show with your
prayers because I feel like evenif we give a whole message here
and have a whole conversationand nobody agrees with anything
that we say, at least they'vegotten the benefit of your
prayer to start and the call tosalvation at the end.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So good job is always sweet.
Thank you, honey.
Well, at least you can't reallymess up a prayer if your heart
is right.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Right, that's right.
Yeah, all right.
So today's Bible verse andwe're going to start with Bible
verses for now on, because Ithink it's important Today's
verse is Psalms 3419, which saysmany are the afflictions of the
righteous, many are theafflictions of the righteous,
but the Lord delivers him out ofthem all.
So you know, I heard JoyceMeyer say one time, kristen,
that she knows that if she doesa message on prosperity or she
(01:40):
does a message on love orfinding the right person, those
will get tons of views, right.
But if she does a message onrighteousness, telling people
how to live, right, okay.
Or if she does a message onafflictions, well, nobody wants
to hear those.
And she knows that those arethe podcasts that'll get the
fewest views.
Those are the books that aren'tgoing to sell.
So you know, we know whatpeople want to hear, but I think
people have to face the realitythat becoming a Christian
(02:02):
doesn't mean you're not going tohave any problems.
In fact, it means you're goingto have many afflictions okay,
but that God's going to carryout of them.
So, kristen, why don't youstart by telling us, I mean,
what is this about and how do wedeal with this?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, I just really feel this is really relevant
right now to my life, becauseI've been going through this
annoying little health crisisand I just feel like God, how
long is this going to persist?
How long is this?
I mean, I'm just so fed up, I'mso discouraged, and God spoke
to my heart and he said how longis it going to persist?
(02:34):
Well, have you persisted inprayer like you used to?
And I was kind of reallyconvicted by that because I
thought back to other times inmy life where I had gone through
things and I just put my faceto the carpet and prayed through
every single day.
I was praying every day, I wasbelieving every day.
(02:57):
I said this is the day.
And I think back to those timesand, yeah, there were
difficulties that I didn't wantto go through the difficulty
again, but what came out of that?
I wouldn't have traded thatexperience for anything because
the intimacy I got with God, thefaith building exercise, and I
have to remember that goingforward.
(03:17):
You know, life has thosechallenges.
You're either going into acrisis, in a crisis or coming
out of a crisis, but truly,that's why we hold on to the
Lord, because we don't have tolive in that place.
We can live above it, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, you know.
Isaiah 41-10 says do not fear,I'm with you, do not be dismayed
, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and helpyou.
I will uphold you with myrighteous right hand.
So there's two parts of thatright.
There's the last part, whereGod is saying I will uphold you
with my righteous right hand, Iwill protect you.
Okay, I'll be with you but rightbefore that he says I will
strengthen you.
In other words, he doesn't sayI'm gonna prevent every, every
(03:55):
bad thing that you can think offrom happening to you.
Things are gonna happen to you,but I'm gonna make you stronger
, I'm gonna use these things tobuild you up as a person.
And it's just like, you know,with weight training.
I mean, god's goal is to makeyou more capable.
Well, you don't become morecapable by lifting light weights
.
You become more capable bylifting the heavy weights and
then you're able to lift, youknow, increasingly heavy ones.
(04:15):
Now, nobody really wants to hearthat.
We want to hear that everythingis gonna go right.
All the time we snap ourfingers, just like Jesus cured
people of leprosy and blindness.
All that we have to do is, youknow, we open the Bible and we
read the right prayer, like it'sa book of spells or something,
and abracadabra, all of ourproblems go away.
And I think one of thefrustrations that people have is
that when they say the rightprayer and they, you know, rest
(04:38):
on faith for five minutes andthe problem doesn't solve itself
, then they say, well, it'sChristianity stuff.
This doesn't work.
I mean, you know, I could be anon-Christian and still have
this problem.
You know how is this helping me.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I came up with a saying a couple of years ago God
knows the need beneath the needwe think we need, and basically
what I mean by that is we havea legitimate need.
But even beyond that, god doesnot only solve that, but he goes
deeper.
Sometimes there's a deeper,underlying thing that we don't
even realize and recognize, andwe need to learn to trust him.
(05:13):
But he's also cultivating thisdependency because in life there
is always going to be a deficit.
We have a God-shaped hold inour heart for a reason, but even
on the outside there's alwaysgoing to be a deficit.
You might be okay with yourfinances, but you might have a
health thing going on.
You might have a be okay inthose areas, but you might have
(05:35):
a relationship thing going on,or it could be more than one
thing at a time.
That happens too.
But the point is God does thatso he can fill those things and
he can be glorified in them.
I firmly believe that it's justan amazing thing that he does.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You know, I told you, I think earlier before we
started this taping, that wecould very easily have just
called this episode why God?
Because we go through so manythings in life and it's very
easy to say God.
Why is this happening to me?
And you know that a friend ofmine, age 30, healthy young
woman, christian, just died thispast week, just woke up one day
(06:12):
and had a stroke and justdropped dead.
And you know, you and I knowpeople who are sick and people
who have died early and wherethey find out that their kid has
a disease or something likethat, and it's very easy to ask
why.
And that's the great temptationand this is going to sound very
bizarre what I'm about to say,but you know, I can't find any
place in the Bible where anybodyasked God why, other than Job?
(06:32):
Okay, and Job was stifflyrebuked.
What you find is that the peoplewho are able to overcome these
things and the book of Psalms isall about this are the people
who they're going through stuffand they say yet, god, I'm going
to praise you, okay, though myRedeemer slay me, yet I know
that he lives.
That's actually what Job saysearlier on in the book, before
he becomes more dismayed.
(06:54):
You know, the Bible says theLord inhabits the praises of his
people, and so the challenge iswhen you go through something
like this, can you still praiseGod?
Okay, the Bible says bethankful in all things.
In all things, rejoice.
One of the more bizarre episodesin the Bible, christian, is
when I believe it's Paul andPeter are taking prisoner and
(07:14):
they're beaten to within an inchof their lives and they walk
away and they're praising Godfor this because they've
suffered for his glory.
And I think, man, that's alevel of faith that I don't know
how I would ever manifest it.
How do you go through the worstthing in life and praise God?
And yet, if you're using this,if you're using this awful
experience that you're having tostrengthen yourself, but also
(07:35):
to get closer to God and buildup that relationship, then you
are beginning the process andyou're going through the process
of overcoming this thing, andit doesn't mean that the bad
thing might not happen, onlythat God's purpose for that bad
thing happening is going to befulfilled in your life.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, it's like when Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego
were in the fire.
They knew God would deliverthem, but they said, even if you
don't I call it the even iffaith, even if God, I know you
can do this, but even if andthat's that is a mature level of
Christianity that, hey, listen,we're not perfect people.
So even when you think you'vereached that level, it's like
(08:13):
you're always stretched andyou're always.
You have those remembrancestones to remember what God did,
and then you have to go back tothat place.
I think of the man who wrote.
I think his name is Horatio Icould be wrong about that and I
forget his last name.
I want to say Algier, but Idon't think that's right.
But the man who wrote it IsWell With my Soul.
The story behind that is thathe wrote that song when his wife
(08:38):
and daughters, his entirefamily, they were all killed in
a shipwreck.
And he wrote that song it IsWell With my Soul.
And if you listen to thoselyrics, it's just mind blowing
what you talk about beingchallenged in your faith and
saying, wow God, how could thisperson?
But it's that thing that wecan't do in our own strength.
(08:59):
That's the answer.
It's never in our own strength,it's his strength.
Remember when you said to mewhen people say, god doesn't
give you more than you canhandle, well, it's not more than
you can handle, it's not morethan he can handle, right.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
God doesn't give you more than he can handle.
You know, I told you one timeand we did a podcast on this
about this advertising campaigna few years ago about 10, 15
years ago and it was called itGets Better and it was targeted
towards teenage kids who were atrisk of suicide because of
bullying for whatever reason.
Ok, and the idea was well,don't worry about the bullying
now, because life gets betterand you know, you just have to
(09:34):
get through this one rough patch.
And I thought, man, you aresetting people up for failure if
that's what you're telling them.
Because I gotta tell you, likenobody likes going through the
teenage drama and the highschool nonsense.
But that is nothing compared toyou know real life consequences
when you're a kid.
I mean, I understand they'rekids who have, you know, rough
upbringings.
But if you're like a middleclass kid, you know what happens
in your life.
You get a bad grade on a test.
Well, guess what?
(09:55):
You're not going to lose yourjob, you're not going to lose
your house, you're not going togo without eating that night
because of that.
There's no real consequences.
If you get sick, you're probablynot terminally ill, your
parents are probably still bothalive, that sort of thing.
But when you get older, rightthen you face real trials and
real tribulations.
And if you've gotten to thatpoint with the expectation that
life is just going to get easierand instead you haven't used
(10:17):
your troubles in the past tomake yourself stronger, ok, well
, you're setting yourself up forfailure because you're not
going to have the spiritual andmental muscles you need to deal
with life.
Life gets harder, you know,with age.
But the idea is those of us wholive successful lives, we
become stronger with age so thatwe can get through those things
.
Ok, and then not just getthrough them but persevere and
(10:38):
help other people do the samething.
That's the whole point.
It's not just us gettingstronger for ourselves, us
getting stronger so that we canhelp other people who are going
through the same thing.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's right.
Actually, that causes me tothink on all of those studies
that people have done about howkids or who have been growing up
have had to overcomedifficulties and challenges in
life incrementally, how muchbetter they are adjusted to the
real world when they're adultsthan people who have had every
(11:09):
protective thing that have neverhad, you know like lived inside
a bubble.
And then they hit the realworld and like, oh my goodness,
I don't know how to deal withthis.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, it's almost like you know.
I saw that thing the day about.
You know a lot of animals thatdo, is.
It was bears, wasn't it?
These bears grew up incaptivity and they're real
friendly with other people, butthen they couldn't be released
into the wild because theycouldn't, you know, feed
themselves or anything.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, that was not that guy.
That guy was like sleeping withthe bears, which I would not
ever not sleeping with you.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Know, like he was laying.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, he was.
He was like in their den andand cuddled up next to the bears
.
Oh, my goodness, that's not.
Not.
That's the wrong kind of trust,the trust in God, not that a
bear is not going to kill you.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
We were doing well before I got us off topic.
Good job, All right.
Kristin, why don't you say thecall salvation?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh well, lord, if you know, if anyone here who's
listening has never receivedJesus, this is the time to do it
.
Just follow after me, dearJesus.
I ask you into my heart,forgive me of my sins.
I make you my Lord and Saviorand I will follow you all the
days of my life.
If you prayed that prayer, justsend us a message or write a
(12:20):
comment or something so that weknow, so we can help you get
started in your walk of faithand be encouraged.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
All right, guys.
Thanks for watching.
We'll see you again next week,as always.
In the meantime, be blessed andbe a blessing Bye.
Alright, good evening everybody, and welcome to
another edition of the Jordanand Christian record show.
Tonight's topic is facinglife's problems, and I use the
word facing very deliberately,because there are some problems
we think we can avoid and someproblems you want to go to the
side of, and maybe some problemsyou want to push on somebody
else.
But, honestly, most of life'sreal serious problems, we just
have to face them.
We cannot run away from them,and so we're going to talk about
(00:22):
that tonight.
But before we do, kristin, goahead and pray for everybody,
please.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, lord, even when we don't feel like we are
making any progress, the truthis that we have already overcome
in you.
Because you have overcome, youhave the victory, and there's
the blood of the Lamb and theword of our testimony to prove
it.
God, we thank you for thehealing that has already come.
(00:46):
We thank you for therestoration.
We thank you for thebreakthrough.
Lord, I just pray for anyoneright now who's just facing a
wall where they don't know whatthey're going to do next.
God, that you would give themthe wisdom and the peace that
passes understanding, and wethank you for it In Jesus' name,
amen.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know, I love opening the show with your
prayers because I feel like evenif we give a whole message here
and have a whole conversationand nobody agrees with anything
that we say, at least they'vegotten the benefit of your
prayer to start and the call tosalvation at the end.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So good job is always sweet.
Thank you, honey.
Well, at least you can't reallymess up a prayer if your heart
is right.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Right, that's right.
Yeah, all right.
So today's Bible verse andwe're going to start with Bible
verses for now on, because Ithink it's important Today's
verse is Psalms 3419, which saysmany are the afflictions of the
righteous, many are theafflictions of the righteous,
but the Lord delivers him out ofthem all.
So you know, I heard JoyceMeyer say one time, kristen,
that she knows that if she doesa message on prosperity or she
(01:40):
does a message on love orfinding the right person, those
will get tons of views, right.
But if she does a message onrighteousness, telling people
how to live, right, okay.
Or if she does a message onafflictions, well, nobody wants
to hear those.
And she knows that those arethe podcasts that'll get the
fewest views.
Those are the books that aren'tgoing to sell.
So you know, we know whatpeople want to hear, but I think
people have to face the realitythat becoming a Christian
(02:02):
doesn't mean you're not going tohave any problems.
In fact, it means you're goingto have many afflictions okay,
but that God's going to carryout of them.
So, kristen, why don't youstart by telling us, I mean,
what is this about and how do wedeal with this?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, I just really feel this is really relevant
right now to my life, becauseI've been going through this
annoying little health crisisand I just feel like God, how
long is this going to persist?
How long is this?
I mean, I'm just so fed up, I'mso discouraged, and God spoke
to my heart and he said how longis it going to persist?
(02:34):
Well, have you persisted inprayer like you used to?
And I was kind of reallyconvicted by that because I
thought back to other times inmy life where I had gone through
things and I just put my faceto the carpet and prayed through
every single day.
I was praying every day, I wasbelieving every day.
(02:57):
I said this is the day.
And I think back to those timesand, yeah, there were
difficulties that I didn't wantto go through the difficulty
again, but what came out of that?
I wouldn't have traded thatexperience for anything because
the intimacy I got with God, thefaith building exercise, and I
have to remember that goingforward.
(03:17):
You know, life has thosechallenges.
You're either going into acrisis, in a crisis or coming
out of a crisis, but truly,that's why we hold on to the
Lord, because we don't have tolive in that place.
We can live above it, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, you know.
Isaiah 41-10 says do not fear,I'm with you, do not be dismayed
, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and helpyou.
I will uphold you with myrighteous right hand.
So there's two parts of thatright.
There's the last part, whereGod is saying I will uphold you
with my righteous right hand, Iwill protect you.
Okay, I'll be with you but rightbefore that he says I will
strengthen you.
In other words, he doesn't sayI'm gonna prevent every, every
(03:55):
bad thing that you can think offrom happening to you.
Things are gonna happen to you,but I'm gonna make you stronger
, I'm gonna use these things tobuild you up as a person.
And it's just like, you know,with weight training.
I mean, god's goal is to makeyou more capable.
Well, you don't become morecapable by lifting light weights
.
You become more capable bylifting the heavy weights and
then you're able to lift, youknow, increasingly heavy ones.
(04:15):
Now, nobody really wants to hearthat.
We want to hear that everythingis gonna go right.
All the time we snap ourfingers, just like Jesus cured
people of leprosy and blindness.
All that we have to do is, youknow, we open the Bible and we
read the right prayer, like it'sa book of spells or something,
and abracadabra, all of ourproblems go away.
And I think one of thefrustrations that people have is
that when they say the rightprayer and they, you know, rest
(04:38):
on faith for five minutes andthe problem doesn't solve itself
, then they say, well, it'sChristianity stuff.
This doesn't work.
I mean, you know, I could be anon-Christian and still have
this problem.
You know how is this helping me.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I came up with a saying a couple of years ago God
knows the need beneath the needwe think we need, and basically
what I mean by that is we havea legitimate need.
But even beyond that, god doesnot only solve that, but he goes
deeper.
Sometimes there's a deeper,underlying thing that we don't
even realize and recognize, andwe need to learn to trust him.
(05:13):
But he's also cultivating thisdependency because in life there
is always going to be a deficit.
We have a God-shaped hold inour heart for a reason, but even
on the outside there's alwaysgoing to be a deficit.
You might be okay with yourfinances, but you might have a
health thing going on.
You might have a be okay inthose areas, but you might have
(05:35):
a relationship thing going on,or it could be more than one
thing at a time.
That happens too.
But the point is God does thatso he can fill those things and
he can be glorified in them.
I firmly believe that it's justan amazing thing that he does.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You know, I told you, I think earlier before we
started this taping, that wecould very easily have just
called this episode why God?
Because we go through so manythings in life and it's very
easy to say God.
Why is this happening to me?
And you know that a friend ofmine, age 30, healthy young
woman, christian, just died thispast week, just woke up one day
(06:12):
and had a stroke and justdropped dead.
And you know, you and I knowpeople who are sick and people
who have died early and wherethey find out that their kid has
a disease or something likethat, and it's very easy to ask
why.
And that's the great temptationand this is going to sound very
bizarre what I'm about to say,but you know, I can't find any
place in the Bible where anybodyasked God why, other than Job?
(06:32):
Okay, and Job was stifflyrebuked.
What you find is that the peoplewho are able to overcome these
things and the book of Psalms isall about this are the people
who they're going through stuffand they say yet, god, I'm going
to praise you, okay, though myRedeemer slay me, yet I know
that he lives.
That's actually what Job saysearlier on in the book, before
he becomes more dismayed.
(06:54):
You know, the Bible says theLord inhabits the praises of his
people, and so the challenge iswhen you go through something
like this, can you still praiseGod?
Okay, the Bible says bethankful in all things.
In all things, rejoice.
One of the more bizarre episodesin the Bible, christian, is
when I believe it's Paul andPeter are taking prisoner and
(07:14):
they're beaten to within an inchof their lives and they walk
away and they're praising Godfor this because they've
suffered for his glory.
And I think, man, that's alevel of faith that I don't know
how I would ever manifest it.
How do you go through the worstthing in life and praise God?
And yet, if you're using this,if you're using this awful
experience that you're having tostrengthen yourself, but also
(07:35):
to get closer to God and buildup that relationship, then you
are beginning the process andyou're going through the process
of overcoming this thing, andit doesn't mean that the bad
thing might not happen, onlythat God's purpose for that bad
thing happening is going to befulfilled in your life.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, it's like when Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego
were in the fire.
They knew God would deliverthem, but they said, even if you
don't I call it the even iffaith, even if God, I know you
can do this, but even if andthat's that is a mature level of
Christianity that, hey, listen,we're not perfect people.
So even when you think you'vereached that level, it's like
(08:13):
you're always stretched andyou're always.
You have those remembrancestones to remember what God did,
and then you have to go back tothat place.
I think of the man who wrote.
I think his name is Horatio Icould be wrong about that and I
forget his last name.
I want to say Algier, but Idon't think that's right.
But the man who wrote it IsWell With my Soul.
The story behind that is thathe wrote that song when his wife
(08:38):
and daughters, his entirefamily, they were all killed in
a shipwreck.
And he wrote that song it IsWell With my Soul.
And if you listen to thoselyrics, it's just mind blowing
what you talk about beingchallenged in your faith and
saying, wow God, how could thisperson?
But it's that thing that wecan't do in our own strength.
(08:59):
That's the answer.
It's never in our own strength,it's his strength.
Remember when you said to mewhen people say, god doesn't
give you more than you canhandle, well, it's not more than
you can handle, it's not morethan he can handle, right.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
God doesn't give you more than he can handle.
You know, I told you one timeand we did a podcast on this
about this advertising campaigna few years ago about 10, 15
years ago and it was called itGets Better and it was targeted
towards teenage kids who were atrisk of suicide because of
bullying for whatever reason.
Ok, and the idea was well,don't worry about the bullying
now, because life gets betterand you know, you just have to
(09:34):
get through this one rough patch.
And I thought, man, you aresetting people up for failure if
that's what you're telling them.
Because I gotta tell you, likenobody likes going through the
teenage drama and the highschool nonsense.
But that is nothing compared toyou know real life consequences
when you're a kid.
I mean, I understand they'rekids who have, you know, rough
upbringings.
But if you're like a middleclass kid, you know what happens
in your life.
You get a bad grade on a test.
Well, guess what?
(09:55):
You're not going to lose yourjob, you're not going to lose
your house, you're not going togo without eating that night
because of that.
There's no real consequences.
If you get sick, you're probablynot terminally ill, your
parents are probably still bothalive, that sort of thing.
But when you get older, rightthen you face real trials and
real tribulations.
And if you've gotten to thatpoint with the expectation that
life is just going to get easierand instead you haven't used
(10:17):
your troubles in the past tomake yourself stronger, ok, well
, you're setting yourself up forfailure because you're not
going to have the spiritual andmental muscles you need to deal
with life.
Life gets harder, you know,with age.
But the idea is those of us wholive successful lives, we
become stronger with age so thatwe can get through those things
.
Ok, and then not just getthrough them but persevere and
(10:38):
help other people do the samething.
That's the whole point.
It's not just us gettingstronger for ourselves, us
getting stronger so that we canhelp other people who are going
through the same thing.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's right.
Actually, that causes me tothink on all of those studies
that people have done about howkids or who have been growing up
have had to overcomedifficulties and challenges in
life incrementally, how muchbetter they are adjusted to the
real world when they're adultsthan people who have had every
(11:09):
protective thing that have neverhad, you know like lived inside
a bubble.
And then they hit the realworld and like, oh my goodness,
I don't know how to deal withthis.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, it's almost like you know.
I saw that thing the day about.
You know a lot of animals thatdo, is.
It was bears, wasn't it?
These bears grew up incaptivity and they're real
friendly with other people, butthen they couldn't be released
into the wild because theycouldn't, you know, feed
themselves or anything.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, that was not that guy.
That guy was like sleeping withthe bears, which I would not
ever not sleeping with you.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Know, like he was laying.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, he was.
He was like in their den andand cuddled up next to the bears
.
Oh, my goodness, that's not.
Not.
That's the wrong kind of trust,the trust in God, not that a
bear is not going to kill you.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
We were doing well before I got us off topic.
Good job, All right.
Kristin, why don't you say thecall salvation?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh well, lord, if you know, if anyone here who's
listening has never receivedJesus, this is the time to do it
.
Just follow after me, dearJesus.
I ask you into my heart,forgive me of my sins.
I make you my Lord and Saviorand I will follow you all the
days of my life.
If you prayed that prayer, justsend us a message or write a
(12:20):
comment or something so that weknow, so we can help you get
started in your walk of faithand be encouraged.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
All right, guys.
Thanks for watching.
We'll see you again next week,as always.
In the meantime, be blessed andbe a blessing Bye.
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