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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And so when you have a stronger mind, so you just can
like manifest anything that youwant easier and you attract
everything that you, you knowyou're vibing at.
So if you're at a low vibration, then that's what you're going
to keep attracting, and ifyou're at a higher vibration,
you're going to be able to trackwhat you want, right.
(00:20):
So it's like practicing thatand people think about
manifestation is like oh, howcome I never see those results?
It's like, well, because youhaven't really taken the time
and actions to do that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Like yeah, hey, girlfriend, welcome to Journey
to Limitless podcast.
Together on the show, we're ona mission to build belief in
ourselves and live a life offreedom, despite what tries to
hold us back.
I'm your host court, anempowerment coach, travel
enthusiast and a chronic illnesswarrior who, over the last
seven years, has built a lifethat I'm so obsessed with and
(00:53):
proud of.
But it definitely has not comeeasy.
So on the show, we're going tokeep it real as we talk about
adapting positive mindsetsthrough hardship, taking action
towards our dreams and findingpeace and freedom from hustle,
culture and chronic stress.
Are you with me?
Let's get going on your ownjourney to limitless.
Welcome back to another episodeof the podcast.
(01:13):
Thank you for joining.
I'm Courtney, and I'm soexcited that you're here because
we have Kathy Mao on thepodcast.
Kathy is the host of the Igniteyour Power with Kathy Mao
podcast and she also createdthis concept called the Bliss
Soft Life, and that's reallywhat she's here to talk with us
about today.
So the Bliss Soft Life is thisconcept that Kathy has really
(01:34):
embodied over the last few yearsof trying to heal her
endometriosis and can be able toconceive, and she didn't want
to let her endometriosis stopher from becoming a mom and also
just living a more empoweringlife.
So this episode, kathy, isgoing to dive all into what it
means to live a Bliss, soft Life, which we talked a lot about
(01:57):
building resiliency, manifestingyour desires and being more
authentic to yourself, whichalso touched on spirituality,
because you kind of have to haveboth.
In order to be your authenticself, you have to have a sense
of yourself, which that comesthrough really a spirituality
journey.
So I think you're going toreally love this episode.
(02:18):
Kathy and I had such anempowering conversation and we
really connected in this episodeand it was just such a great
way to connect with her throughthis podcast and be able to
share this conversation with you.
So if you end up loving thisepisode which I'm sure that you
will you can go ahead and take ascreenshot of you listening and
you can tag us in yourInstagram stories.
So I am at Journey2Limitlessunderscore and Kathy's Instagram
(02:41):
is kathymau.
So that's k-a-t-h-ym-o-u and,like I said, we always just
appreciate you letting us knowthat you tune in and letting us
know what you took away from theepisode.
So definitely take a screenshotand tag us.
That way we can both say thankyou for spreading the message,
so let's go ahead and jump rightin.
(03:01):
Welcome, kathy, toJourney2Limitless podcast.
I'm so excited that you're heretoday, and I'm really excited
to learn more about your storyand how you have gotten to where
you are today in your journey.
So thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Thank you for having me.
I'm so excited to be here andto share what I've been through,
so thank you again.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I know today we're going to be talking a lot
about your concept of the blisslife and before we get into that
, I would just love if you canjust share with us your story
like how, like what, have youovercome, the challenges that
you've overcome and how you havegotten to where you are today.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes.
So in 2019, I got married and Igot married late, like in my
30s.
So I wanted to have kids rightwhen I got married and I thought
it was going to be easy, justlike my sisters.
They both tried once and thenthey got their kid.
So I thought that was going tobe the case but it was complete
opposite.
Like I suffered with infertilityfor two years with my husband
(04:07):
and I was just so out of tunewith my body because I like in
the healthcare system you know,they just give women birth
control.
As a young girl, I've alwayshad crazy periods, etc.
And so through my infertilityjourney, I finally got diagnosed
with endometriosis.
So it's like a chronic illnessthat I'll always have and it
(04:30):
takes at least 10 to 12 years toget a diagnosis, but for me it
took 20 years because I was justso out of tune.
So, with suffering withinfertility, I became very
depressed and I was just at thelowest point in my life that I
never thought I would be,because I'm a very cheerful
person, like pretty positive,optimistic, and I was just not
(04:51):
me.
I didn't even know who I was,and so after two years of like
trying, and every month I wouldset myself up for disaster, like
taking pregnancy tests and thenI'll obviously getting negative
test results for two yearsstraight, was just so like
messing up with your mind thatfinally my sister, my twin
(05:11):
sister like told me somethingthat I needed to hear and not
something that I wanted to hear,but she was like Kathy, are you
doing everything in your powerto actually make this happen for
you?
And I was like thinking tomyself like, wow, why would you
say this to me at this time?
But that's what I needed tohear.
And I thought about and I waslike actually, no, I'm not, I'm
(05:32):
just stuck in this victimmindset of like the world is
against me, everything sucks,like life is terrible.
And then I was like actually Ididn't.
I wasn't like eating the best,I wasn't taking care of myself,
I wasn't maximizing my fertility, you know, and seeing
specialists.
So I empowered myself.
(05:55):
And then I was like, okay, therehas to be some way to overcome
these things or infertility.
So I found a specialist, I wentthrough IVF.
I even just like went toacupuncturists and then I went
on a bean protocol.
I just like Google to holisticways and I just like somehow
(06:15):
found the bean protocol I don'tknow if you've heard of it, but
it's just like you eat a bunchof fiber to help, like, get rid
of the toxins, becauseendometriosis is like kind of
your hormones are imbalanced andinflammation in your body, and
so finally, like a year of juststraight up empowering myself,
like learning, putting thingsinto action, changing my
(06:38):
lifestyle, and then boom, rightwhen I was trying to give up.
So I did try IVF and then I gota laparoscopy the same year, in
2021.
And I got a miscarriage and Ijust felt so low again after my
IVF the first round.
So the husband and I stoppedjust for one month and we got
(07:00):
pregnant, naturally, rightbefore our second round of IVF.
So I knew in that moment intime that everything that I did
for the whole year of empoweringmyself, it gave me the results
that I was wanting to be a mom.
So it was a hard journey, but Iknow that, after going through
(07:20):
this, that anybody can do this.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Right, and I love what you said about like you
kind of had that reality check.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Oh, it was maybe in your mind.
You thought that you were doingeverything and everything that
you could do.
But then someone was, like youknow, kind of checked you and
kind of realized and like,actually there's probably a lot
more that I could be doing itwithin my mindset, within my day
to day living.
A lot of times it's it's it'slooking at things from a
holistic standpoint that canreally change our life.
(07:48):
And I've you know from having alot of people on this podcast
you are sharing their stories ofchronic illness.
Like chronic illness does nothave to be something that you
have to be a victim of.
Like you can through change.
I mean.
I mean that's a lot of mindsetchange in order to change your
daily life, but there's ways toto empower yourself through it.
(08:10):
And, yes, the fact that youconceived naturally like that
just goes to show the hard workthat you dedicated yourself to
for a year.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, thank you.
And that's the thing is in ourhealthcare system we're taught,
like you know, you're supposedto take all these medications
etc and rely on the healthcaresystem and I mean they're great
for certain things, but reallyit's everybody's different,
their body is different.
But you have to get to knowyourself and what works for you.
(08:37):
And the holistic approach isawesome because you really get
to the root of the problem.
And you know, through myjourney, that's how I found out
I had endometriosis and then Itackle my endometriosis, which
helped with my infertility, andlike everything's combined, you
know like your mindset, yourphysical body and your emotional
, like everything's combined.
(08:59):
And through this journey it'slike, wow, that's why it's
called the holistic approachright, it's the whole body
approach.
So it's such a beautiful thingto learn and through my journey
I just loved how I became awhole different person and I
learned to really love myself,to take care of myself, and you
(09:19):
know how my body actuallyfunctions.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, it is just wild the transformation that happens
when you start to really takecare of yourself mind, body,
spirit in a holistic sense, likeyou really do become a whole
different person.
I can see that in my ownjourney of navigating chronic
illness, like I look at myselfnow and who I was prior to
diagnosis.
Also, I don't know if you canrelate to this, but like the
(09:45):
grieving process of realizingthat you had endometriosis, like
I'm sure that that in itselfwas a really difficult thing to
accept, right, and you likelywish that you could go back to
the time in your life when youdidn't have it right.
But then now I went throughthat with my ulcerative colitis
and now I look and I'm likeactually I wouldn't go back to
(10:06):
the life that I had prior to mychronic illness because it
really changed me into theperson that I've always really
wanted to be, someone who caresabout their mind, body, soul,
right.
So it's just wild thetransformation, the personal
development that can happenthrough a chronic illness
diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yes, it's so true, and it's crazy how you have to
go through that transition tolearn, and having a chronic
illness makes you really takecare of yourself.
You learn self-love andself-care, and that's something
that people with chronic illnesshave to learn and do, which is,
you know, crucial, and it'sactually good for us and now we
(10:49):
get to teach it to other people.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, because you can't hate yourself to healthier
life, right Like, you deserveto feel better.
You deserve to live the lifethat you really want to and it's
through, yes, learning how tocare for yourself in a more
holistic sense, learning how togive yourself compassion, and
not putting the blame onyourself, because I know a lot
(11:12):
of times, when it comes to adiagnosis, we can sometimes be
like, oh, I should have beendoing this, or oh, I should have
been doing that, or I failed atthis, and it can really mess
with our self-worth andself-confidence.
But it's like coming at it froma self-compassion lens, like
you don't know, unless you havethat realization and really just
(11:33):
coming at things from aself-compassion lens and really
can grow through self love, youcan really grow an immense
amount of self love for yourself.
Yes, yeah, exactly, yeah, so,yeah, so, um, like I said, we're
today, we're really going to betalking about your bliss soft
life concept.
Uh, so I first just want toknow, like what, what is bliss
(11:54):
soft life and how has itpersonally transformed your life
?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So the bliss soft life if you think about the two
terms, by itself so blissful,what do you think?
You know, like contentment,happiness, and then like soft,
is like something really easygoing right.
So when you have this bliss offlife, you're living in your
full power, where you trust inthe universe, you trust in
(12:18):
yourself, you're so confidentthat life is just so blissful
and easy when you realize this.
And so this is how it my blissoff life came about because I
grew up living a hard, reallylet hard, lifestyle because my
parents were immigrants and theycame here and I just thought
that everything was, you know,full of lack and you have to
(12:40):
earn everything through the hardway.
But after having my chronicillness and diagnosis, like, I
had to learn to slow down, tocare of myself and, just like
trust in the divine and thespirit, you know my spiritual
side, which is a huge piece thatI never tapped into.
So the bliss soft life is justknowing that you know the
(13:03):
universe and that we're so like,we're so infinite beings here
on earth, like for a mission,and just knowing that and
trusting in the universe you'lllive this bliss off life.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I love the concept of, I mean, really in a
chronic illness diagnosis andreally any time that you're
going through hardship, I justtruly like to think about, like
this is my soul's path.
I am not handed anything andthe person listening to this is
not handed anything that youcannot handle, right, that
you're not handed anything thatyou cannot overcome and not get
(13:38):
through.
And I think, definitely whenyou're, when you're handed a
difficult circumstance, whenyou're handed a diagnosis, a lot
of times the only thing that wecan do, one of the best things
that we can do, is start to leaninto that trust that, hey, this
is happening for me in somesense, even if right now I don't
completely understand it.
I trust that I will and I'mtrust that I'm being guided in
(14:00):
the direction that I'm supposedto go.
Yeah, so.
I love that that's like one ofthe key components of your bliss
, soft life, because I thinkthat also does bring the bring
the softness to it of like, hey,I get to relax and yes, yeah,
I'm taken care of yes, exactly,it's that mindset.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Right, that's the mindset piece that you really
have to overcome and stop likelistening to your ego mind and
like how everything's like, youknow, not the way you want, and
you're always in this lackmindset.
But when you're in the bliss,soft life, you're like so
empowered, you just trusting,and you're just like confident
in yourself and the universe andyou're just like, okay, I got
(14:39):
this and I kind of just liketrust and it's, it's supposed to
be easy, like you know, becauseit's not.
Yeah, you're not resisting,you're just letting it flow,
like positive energy is flowingto you yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So I know that there may be someone on the other side
of this who is like, okay, thisis a great concept.
How would you help someonestart to really embody this
bliss, soft life concept?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
so we're all at different journeys in our life,
but the main thing if you reallywant to start it is to start
changing your mindset.
That's like one key component.
So if you're always in like thisvictim mindset, that everything
is against you, it's going tobe really hard to live this
lifestyle because you're goingto have to really tap into the
(15:25):
spiritual, divine and tap intoyour spirituality and get to
really know yourself.
So self-love and self-care iscrucial and so taking the time
to meditate or, you know, beingquiet with yourself and a lot of
us since we live in afast-paced world, right, we're
(15:46):
always like watching tv or onour phones or just like never
really quieting ourselves toreally get to know ourselves and
trust me, I know this because Ilived that life and actually
quieting your mind is gonnareally get to know yourself.
And then when you understandwhat makes you happy, that's
(16:07):
when magic happens, becauseyou're vibing at a higher
vibration.
So everything is energy in life.
And if you're at a lowvibration like when depression,
like I was in my depressed state, like everything negative
happened because I was in thatfrequency but when you're loving
yourself and you're confidentand you know, your mindset is
(16:28):
just so strong and you know thatyou can overcome anything and
you trust in the divine.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Like dude, you're just vibing at a high vibration
and your life is just so mucheasier yeah, I was at a
conference recently calledempower her live and we were
talking about, like, self-worth,like I think, a lot of times
when, like I said, chronicillness, hardship, a lot of
times that can diminish ourself-worth, right, but I think
(16:55):
that you can use this concept ina lot of different senses.
So, um, what one of the speakerssaid, jamie Kern Lima is like,
a lot of times, when you are inthat negative space, a lot of
times it's not just like it'snot bombarding yourself with
like toxic positivity, like youcan't give yourself an
affirmation of like I'm the bestever, when, like, maybe that's
not true, that doesn't feel truefor you right now.
(17:16):
Right, so you can't likebombard yourself with toxic
positive positivity, but you canfind something to replace that
negative thought.
That is just a step, a stepabove it.
Like it's not, it's not likethe full negative, it's like
what's something that you canlean into of.
That's like, um, like I likelet's say what I'm trying to do.
You understand what I'm tryingto say yeah.
(17:37):
I totally get it like not sayinglike, oh, I'm the best ever,
but it's like I'm doing the bestthat I can, yes, versus like I
suck, like I suck, no, I'm doingthe best that I can.
Instead of saying like I'm thebest ever, like maybe you're not
at that point right now, butyou can replace that really
negative talk with somethingjust a little, you know, just
I'm a little bit more positive,right, yes.
So I think that could always belike a really great step to
(17:59):
kind of start with the start,switching the the negative
self-talk around a bit exactlybeing aware that you have that
negative self-talk too.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yes, yes, being aware is one of the key pieces.
A lot of us aren't aware ofwhere of like, where we are in
life and what our surroundingsis, and like how your thought
process is, you know, and sowhen you start getting to know
yourself, that's when, like, youknow, you're like, you're like,
you're like, you're like,you're like, you're being aware
and you're understanding, like,whoa, this is what actually
(18:28):
truly makes me happy.
It's so crazy because a lot ofpeople that I talk to don't even
know what really makes themhappy.
They think they know, theythink they're like people
pleasing, like, oh, making otherpeople happy is really making
me happy.
But no, that's not it.
You're just people pleasing,because you're taught that.
But what truly makes you happy?
Right, like going out to theocean and seeing animals?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
like that makes you true, you know what is it, yeah,
yeah, getting quiet enough toreally tune into yourself and a
lot of times, yeah, like whatyou said, is the people pleasing
?
Like a lot of times, that'slike your mind, that's your mind
telling you what is true, likewhat is true for you, but, like,
I think, getting quiet andlistening to your own intuition,
listening to your own body islike, yeah, that's the way right
(19:16):
.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Exactly exactly, and a lot of us don't tap into our
power.
So when you're living a blissoff life, you're just this
powerful being and you know it.
So it's like following yourintuition, your gut feeling, and
you're, and you just know it athousand percent.
That's like truly who you are.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah.
So let's say okay.
So a little bit more likespecifically about the
principles.
I think we kind of touched onthis throughout your explanation
of it, but just kind of divinginto each of the
transformational principles ofbliss off life, Like what are,
like the set aspects of thebliss off life and kind of
laying them out.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So the aspects is, like you know learning how to
really be resilient and you know, when life throws you hardships
, you have to know that you'regoing to be able to overcome it.
You're going to trust inyourself, like, yes, okay, this
is what the human experience is.
(20:17):
We're here to learn things.
And so if you have that mindset, knowing that it's going to get
better and this is a lifelesson that I'm learning then
you know that you're going to beable to overcome it and then
you're going to learn from itand grow and up level yourself,
and then you're going to keepgrowing and then keeping the
best version of yourself, andthen you're just going to be
(20:40):
able to live like the true,authentic you that you're
supposed to be.
So another principle is, likeyou know authenticity, like
being your true self, what makesyou truly happy, like we kind
of touched upon that and when,again, like I feel like a lot of
people don't really know theirauthentic self and what truly
makes them who they are.
(21:00):
But and a lot of us don't evenknow what our life purpose is,
but I think we both know,because after going through
something huge, like we kind ofget a spiritual awakening or
some type of awakening to learn,and it forces us to be this way
now that we get to be on thisplatform and teach people.
So, actually being yourauthentic self, you'll know,
(21:23):
like, what your life purpose isand you're just going to be
truly happy with life whenyou're in this stage of
authenticity and not like peoplepleasing or you know working on
, you know setting your ownboundaries, et cetera.
So being your authentic self isone of the key pieces and just
accepting your quirkiness andyour, you know individuality and
(21:47):
it's so crazy that you know, inour society we're taught to be
like.
You know let's all be the same.
It's actually no, what makes usdifferent is what makes us
shine.
So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So I'm kind of curious like, oh, go ahead.
So sorry, go ahead no it's okay.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I was going to say in the last pieces, like you know,
doing manifestation, mindfulmanifestation, is another key
piece into the bliss of lifethat we can kind of talk about.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, I think the next thing that I just want to
ask you about is like living amore authentic life.
That can be really challenging,like you said, because of
people pleasing, because ofother people's opinions, because
of I mean just the way thatsociety is really like.
It can be really overwhelmingand really scary to start to
(22:39):
really own yourself and shareyourself.
So I'm just curious how hasyour journey looked with really
stepping into being who you areand not being ashamed to be the
fully expressed version ofyourself?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, so I grew up being an ESL kid and I was shy,
I didn't talk and, like youwould not know, that's that used
to be me.
But when I learned to be moreconfident in myself and I knew
that I had a life purpose, totalk about this bliss of life,
that I knew that this was mypurpose, it wasn't about me.
(23:13):
So when you're like learningabout authenticity, it's like
you're not.
It's not all about you andeverybody's like I guess your
mindset's not all about yourself.
It's about servicing others,and so you're so confident and
happy with life.
That and that point.
It's not all about yourself.
(23:33):
It's like how can you be aservice, how can you help other
people?
And that's correlates with howit makes you happy, if that
makes sense 100%, and I canrelate to you with being the shy
girl.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's kind of wild because you have a podcast as
well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, so we both have podcasts and, like I just
always think about if people Iguarantee you, people from high
school, probably, like Courtneyhas a podcast.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I literally was always like Courtney.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
you're so.
People were always likeCourtney.
You're so shy, like I was knownas the shy girl, and now I'm
like.
Now I'm sharing some of mydeepest secrets and stories on a
podcast.
And I'm like it is true,because when you start to
understand what your purpose is,you can't not show up and share
your purpose.
Yes, your purpose has to belouder than your fear, like my
(24:22):
business coach said, like youhave to.
It's like there's times onsocial media I'm sure you've had
this experience too where youkind of want to go back into
that shy girl space.
It's like, oh my gosh, I'msharing myself.
This is really scary.
I don't know what to do.
I don't want people to judge meand it's like, but there's
someone on the other side ofthis who, like, needs to see my
example, who needs to hear thisstory, who is in this experience
(24:45):
, who just wants to know thatthey're not alone, right?
So we have to show up for theperson who could be impacted by
us showing up in our purpose and, yeah, just like allowing our
purpose to be louder than ourfear, and I can really relate to
you and like your purposereally got you out of your shy
girl shell, like me.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yes, I know I love it .
I would never know that aboutyou?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
No, I was so shy Like it's like why on, how shy I was
.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That's so great.
Same I.
You know I was.
Just I never talked cause I wasan ESL kid, so I just didn't
want to be made fun of, so Ijust never talked, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I just didn't.
I don't know.
I just felt like I didn't haveanything that I wanted to share
Right.
I feared a lot of judgment.
People always felt different.
I always felt like I was goingto live a different life and I
just felt like I couldn't relateto people and I just didn't
know what to say.
I just was like I don't know.
People were intimidating to meand I was just like I'm just
(25:46):
gonna not like keep to myself.
And yeah, it's just wild thetransformation that I've had in
my own life, but it was reallythrough learning about myself
right.
Yeah, and really stepping intothat purpose and just not, yeah,
just letting your purpose belouder than your fear.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And isn't that amazing when you step into that
power and not let fear or yourego get in the way.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, Now it's like wild that I have a whole podcast
about that.
I'm like who am I?
How did I become this person?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You're you, finally, you know, stepped in your
spiritual higher self is like ohmy gosh.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
finally, Courtney, you remember why you're here on
earth, yeah, doing, yeah, it'sso true, right?
Because a lot of times, throughconditioning, we get so far
away from ourselves through theway that you know society is
supposed to be, yeah, divinginto our spirituality.
By getting quiet, by listeningto ourselves, we come back home,
to our truth.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yes, and it's so crazy because this bliss soft
life concept came when I tappedinto my spiritual side and then,
um, I believe that my higherself gave me this idea and I was
like what is crazy, cause I wasjust having coffee and then
it's just like they're like youneed to just preach about the
bliss soft life and I was likewhoa.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, that's kind of how it was with me with Journey
to Limitless of like.
This name came through and Iwas just like, okay, I'm
supposed to share about myjourney of chasing my dreams.
And then, you know, things gotmessy with having chronic
illness, and it was always thislike root of like we do not have
to be held back by ourcircumstances, right, and now,
(27:28):
like, I went through some recenthardship, um, you know, over
the last few months, and my thisconcept of being on this
Journey to Limitless literallygot me through right.
So it's something that evenourselves, who are the
facilitators of our movements,like it's always a reminder for
us too, cause it can be so easyto, kind of, you know, get back
(27:51):
into our old spirals and our oldstories and everything.
But it's like, hey, like, no,like you're on a Journey to
Limitless, this is hardshipsgoing to happen, you can be
resilient, you can stillmanifest your dreams and, um,
you know, we got to get.
We got to get ourselves back ontrack sometimes too.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So, yes, yeah, exactly yeah.
And then that's why your higherpurpose and the purpose and
knowing yourself helps you getback on track.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, so, um, the last part of the bliss life that
you were just talking abouttowards the end of that was
manifestation.
Yeah, so can you share somepractical, or, yeah, some
practical tips, um, for mindfulmen?
Ah, I can't talk.
No, no worries.
Um, so the last part of thebliss life, uh, which is what
(28:37):
you're talking about towards theend, there was about
manifestation.
So how can individualsincorporate mindful
manifestation into their dailylives to create positive change.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So mindful manifestation is a powerful,
powerful practice, right.
So it aligns your thoughts,beliefs and actions to
consciously create the rereality you desire.
And so you need to have, like,a stronger mindset to start
manifesting the things that youwant.
So earlier I kind of mentioned,like, if you're in a depressed
(29:08):
state and so like, in thisvictim mindset, it's going to be
hard for you to manifestanything that you want because
you're at a low vibration, right.
So you have to start practicingmindful practices to get your
mind thinking differently.
And so obviously you kind oftouch upon this too.
Like you know, you can't say,oh, I want.
Or, like you know, if you'redepressed and then you're going
(29:30):
to say, oh, I'm so great andpowerful, like you know, it's
not going to coincide.
You have to like do a babysteps out of time at where you
are in life.
So, say, if you're at adepressed state and then you got
to practice mindfulness, howare you going to get out of this
depressed state?
And so what I teach my clientsis to practice gratitude.
So you can't you, you can'tlike be great.
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So gratitude is like a highervibrational thing and their
opposites right Of depression.
So you're either in a gratefuland happy state or you're in
this depressed state.
So I told people to practicegratitude and just this easy
practice like saying threethings you're grateful for
before you go to sleep, or likewhen you right, when you wake up
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or any time in the day when youfeel like it, it'll just raise
your vibration, like just babysteps like that, and you know it
helps change your mindset.
And you know you it's just kindof like a.
It's like a when you're trainingfor something right, when
sports, like how do people, howdo people train for, like,
(30:34):
running a marathon, they takebaby steps.
They're not going to do a, youknow a mile in like whatever if
they never ran before, right?
So taking those baby steps, dothat with your mind because it's
a muscle.
So doing practices like evenjournaling, you know, just
expressing anything to make yourmind like be aware of yourself
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and, you know, maybe eventalking to other people, like
coaches too, it can help youbring awareness and help build
your mindset and keep making itstrong.
And so when you have a strongermindset, you just can like
manifest anything that you wanteasier and you attract
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everything that you you knowyou're vibing at.
So if you're at a low vibration, then that's what you're going
to keep attracting, and ifyou're at a higher vibration,
you're going to be able to trackwhat you want Right.
So it's like practicing that,and people think about
manifestation as like, oh, howcome I never see those results?
It's like, well, because youhaven't really taken the time
(31:37):
and actions to do that.
Like, yeah, I'm like, forexample, me I wanted a child and
then in my victim mindset andfor two years I was just crying
all day and then I was like, Iwant a baby.
So badly and it never happenedbecause, you know, was I doing
anything about it?
No, but when I literally tookthat whole year to do and
(31:57):
practice everything, like youknow, to change my mindset and
to, like, change my lifestyle,like boom, it happened for me.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
You were on your way of becoming a woman who could,
who could conceive a child.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
We're on the way of like setting up your life, like
to be a healthier woman, so youcan make that happen.
Right, like I think a lot oftimes manifestation is taking
the steps and the direction ofbecoming the people that we want
to be.
Yes, right and yes.
I think having gratitude is oneof the best ways to start
raising your vibration, and itdoesn't have to be like you know
.
I know when you're in a in adepressed state, like you know,
(32:32):
you're not going to very easilyfind things to be grateful for,
because a lot of times we thinkit has to be these like massive,
big things.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
But it can literally be.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I'm so grateful that I have a roof over my head.
Yes, I'm so grateful that thesun is shining today.
I'm so grateful that my dog ishere.
Like it can be these tinythings that can just shift,
shift your energy, and such a itreally truly does come down to
the tiny things and I think alot of times it is putting
yourself in the energy of likewhat you want to feel as well.
(33:00):
Like, if you are wanting tocreate more freedom, more joy in
your life, you have to spendtime doing even the tiny things
that can bring you just aglimmer of that Right and really
noticing like, wow, I feelfreedom right now.
Wow, I feel joyful watchingthis TV show, I feel joyful
listening to my favorite song.
Like you have to put yourselvesin the environment of things
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that bring you joy on thatsmaller level and that will
create more of that in your life?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yes, Exactly, Exactly .
And then you know it getsbetter and stronger and stronger
.
And then you're just like, ohmy gosh, and then you just
develop into the person thatyou've been wanting to be and
you know you really have tofollow your gut and intuition.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, and manifestation isn't just like
talking about it like you did.
You had to take the steps inorder for it to happen, like,
yes, you were manifesting it,but because you were also taking
the steps toward that beingyour reality too, it's not
manifesting it and doing nothing.
Yeah, manifesting requiresaction, exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Right Aligned action, exactly.
And I think that's a lot of thebiggest mistakes.
When people think aboutmanifestation, they're just like
I visualized it.
Why isn't it popping up?
And I'm like well, did you takesteps towards that action?
Like, or your manifestation,like you know, you don't have to
make it so hard or difficult,but you know, like, doing little
(34:23):
baby steps, like towards it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And something that I just want to share here is like
your manifestation again, you donot have to do all of the work.
Yes, I just want to say thisvery clearly Like I have, I'm
not going to okay.
So I have been wanting to buy atiny house for nine years and I
have this opportunity landingin my lap right now where I am
(34:51):
going to be taking the stepstowards buying it.
But it didn't happen because ofme putting in all this action.
It was just I honestly justkept meeting people, I kept
putting myself out there, I kepttalking about it.
That's taking action Doesn'tmean that you have to go put a
down payment on somethingbecause the opportunity now has
landed in my lap and I'm likeliterally freaking out about it.
(35:11):
So I'm like, wow, I manifestedthis.
So do not think thatmanifesting is you have to take
all of the action.
It's just always keeping it inyour mind and talking about it.
Um, maybe it is even likeputting yourself out there.
You never know the people thatcan come into your life, the
opportunities that can, that cancome into your life, and always
just trusting that it willhappen and not putting a
(35:32):
timeline on it.
This is the thing that I havebeen really turned off with when
it comes to goals.
I love goal setting and I thinkit can give us direction, but I
think sometimes, when itdoesn't happen on the timeline
that we want to, we give up alltogether.
Like I said, this is a nineyear dream that is manifesting
in my life right now and I nevergave up on it.
And if I would have been hungup of like, oh, I want this tiny
(35:53):
house by the time I'm 25 yearsold, I would have been way upset
about it long time ago.
I'm now 29 and it's manifesting.
You know, we can't hold ontothe timelines, right.
Exactly Just trusting that themanifestations will happen and
not not losing hope.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
You know yes, exactly , not losing hope, that's a key
piece.
I love that.
That's what you shared.
It's true, because, same waywith my house, like when I just
let go and I just trusted andput it out there like, um, I
didn't make like crazy actionsteps or anything.
We just kind of looked athouses here and there and when I
stepped into the house that Ilive in now, I just stepped in
(36:29):
and was like, oh my God, this ismy house, I feel it.
And then boom, like two monthslater they're like, oh, we'll
take, accept your offer and thisis your house.
So it's kind of like you know,trusting in the divine, that
everything is is for your highergood.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And not not think a lot of the big pieces.
People always think about thathow, like, how is it going to
happen?
Like everybody's stuck on that.
No, let go of the how.
Just picture the end resultsand then letting, like your
spirit guides or whatever theuniverse, like you know, there's
just so many directions, thattons and thousands of directions
(37:05):
.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Just let it happen, you know right, and I think a
lot of times it's our ego thattells us the timeline like it's
a logical mind to be like thisneeds to happen by this time and
this time it's like, actuallythat's not how your life is
going to go, right, and you cankind of miss opportunities when
you're so hung up on how thingsare supposed to happen.
(37:26):
Instead, knowing what you want,keep putting yourselves in the
space where you can have theopportunities for it to happen,
but not being so tied to ithappening on your timeline.
Right, yes, exactly, yeah, likeknowing your direction but
being free and it will happen.
Yeah, yes, yeah, so let's see.
(37:50):
Wrapping up, so for anyonelistening who may be going
through any of their ownchallenges, what advice would
you offer them to find more joy,resilience and fulfillment in
their life?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I would start giving this big piece of advice of self
love and doing self care,because we do not do enough of
this and these self care andself love are two separate
things.
Like everything, everybodythinks self care is the same
thing as self love, but it's notso.
Self love is like the emotionalpiece, right?
(38:23):
So like that feeling that youlove somebody.
Like you have a kid, you loveyour kid or pet or family right,
you have to give that emotionback to yourself.
And when I ask people that I'mlike, do you ever give yourself
self love?
They're like, yeah, I go give amassage or, like you know,
workout, or I'm like those areself care things and that's a
huge piece.
And a lot of us don't loveourselves, right?
(38:45):
Yeah, we're so disconnected.
So when you know you are likeliving the bliss of love, you
love yourself, you're soconfident and you just practice
this daily, like now you knowwhat I do?
I give myself hugs.
I literally go like this andgive myself hugs and this starts
raising your vibrations, juststarts making magic happen for
you, because you know you'reliving life for yourself and
(39:07):
your sole purpose.
So the key piece is to startloving yourself and then doing
self care practices, likenourishing your body with food
right, or like with healthyfoods and moving your body those
are self care things and a lotof us don't do that too right
and learning what makes youhappy, and these two things are
(39:30):
literally life changing.
And then I guess, in any statein life of where you're at, you
know maybe, like if you're superdepressed or if just like
you're so sick of life, orsomething you tap into your own
power, like and your self loveand self care, that's when
things will start changing foryou.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, I think everything's always rooted in
self love, like self love isyour ability to carry yourself
through and go after your dreams.
You love yourself enough to notgive up on yourself.
You love yourself enough tospeak to yourself kindly.
You love yourself enough tolike, yeah, just like, yeah, I
mean nourishing yourself, caring, like, really taking care of
(40:11):
yourself.
But it's a lot deeper than that.
It's the way that you talk toyourself.
It's the way that you believethat your dreams are possible.
Right, it's believing inyourself.
Yes, it's really really deep,and I really love that you're
saying that that's the firststep, because I truly believe
that, yes, when we can catapult,when we not catapult, when we
can cultivate a really strongsense of self love, like that is
(40:32):
really where, when shifthappens in life.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, exactly Right.
So when you know having chronicillness, that's what we had to
learn self care and self love.
And then boom, like it keeps,you know, leading you into your
life purpose.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, and I can see that in my own journey of like.
When I was first diagnosed withall sort of colitis back in
2019, I had no self love, like Iwas shaming myself for being
diagnosed.
I was shaming myself in alldirections.
And then the flare that I hadlast year, I just remember
feeling that sense of like we'regoing to get through this, like
I love you, I'm so sorry thatyou're that.
Like I was talking to my colon.
(41:08):
I was like I'm so sorry that,like this is happening, I love
you and like we're going to getthrough this.
Beautiful and it's just thatshift.
That's, that's the work thatI've done on myself over the
last few years.
And, yeah, just seeing thatshift happen.
And, yeah, self love, reallylike carries you through
everything in life.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, it really does.
And one, one big thing I do formyself now.
I used to never do.
It's kind of weird, but I givemyself hugs and I'm like I love
you.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
You're so amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I do too.
Yeah, oh, I love that.
Okay cool.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of usdon't, but it's such a great
practice, right, Don't you feelgood?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Oh, yeah, oh yeah, I gave myself a hug recently when
I was going through a difficultthing and I was like it's okay,
like you got this yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
I love that.
So you know, doing that self,self love practice and it's just
beautiful.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah.
So do you have a song or anaffirmation that you go to when
you need the reminder that youare limitless?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yes, of course I always.
I have an affirmation that Ilove using.
I just say I am powerful andI'm this amazing, infinite being
, and I will get through this.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, yeah, I just think, yeah, having these
powerful, I can't tell if I'mcutting you off or not.
No, no, okay, I thought maybe Iheard you talking the.
Yeah, it's kind of glitching alittle bit, but yeah, I just
think, always having anaffirmation in your back pocket
that you can go to when, when,maybe some things are, some
(42:41):
things are hitting the faninstead of going down that
spiral of victim mentality orfear right.
Turning back to love of like Iam powerful, I can get through
this, Like this is challenging,but I got my.
I always go to, I have this one.
I say like I got my back, Ihave my back, Like oh, okay, I
love that, yeah, so, yeah, yeah.
So this was a really amazingconversation, kathy.
(43:04):
Thank you so much for yourinsight and your wisdom today,
but before we hop off, can youjust share what you're excited
about and then, where thelisteners can find you, to
connect with you?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yes, so I'm excited about actually writing my book
about the bliss of life.
I, yes, so I'm like in theprocess of writing it and then
trying to get it published.
So I'm excited.
So I'll keep you guys postedabout that in the future.
You guys can find me more on atmy website, at KathyMaocom, or
on Instagram at my handle isKathy Mao, and yeah, you could
(43:40):
just reach out to me and bothplaces and yeah, I'll just be so
happy to connect.
If you even have any questions,like, I'm always down to answer
them or help in any way.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah Well, thank you again, kathy, and I look forward
for the listeners to hear thisand we'll chat soon.
Yeah, okay.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
It means so much to me thatyou're here and that you're
taking the time to listen to thepodcast.
If you found this episode to bevaluable to you, it would mean
so much to me if you shared itwith your friends, who you think
(44:14):
could also really benefit fromthis message.
You can take a screenshot ofyou listening and tag me in your
Instagram stories.
I am at journey to Lemilisunderscore.
That also gives me the chanceto connect with you and say
thank you.
So until next week, I hope thatyou have an amazing week ahead
of you and I'll talk to you then.
And so when you have a stronger mind, so you just can
like manifest anything that youwant easier and you attract
everything that you, you knowyou're vibing at.
So if you're at a low vibration, then that's what you're going
to keep attracting, and ifyou're at a higher vibration,
you're going to be able to trackwhat you want, right.
(00:20):
So it's like practicing thatand people think about
manifestation is like oh, howcome I never see those results?
It's like, well, because youhaven't really taken the time
and actions to do that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Like yeah, hey, girlfriend, welcome to Journey
to Limitless podcast.
Together on the show, we're ona mission to build belief in
ourselves and live a life offreedom, despite what tries to
hold us back.
I'm your host court, anempowerment coach, travel
enthusiast and a chronic illnesswarrior who, over the last
seven years, has built a lifethat I'm so obsessed with and
(00:53):
proud of.
But it definitely has not comeeasy.
So on the show, we're going tokeep it real as we talk about
adapting positive mindsetsthrough hardship, taking action
towards our dreams and findingpeace and freedom from hustle,
culture and chronic stress.
Are you with me?
Let's get going on your ownjourney to limitless.
Welcome back to another episodeof the podcast.
(01:13):
Thank you for joining.
I'm Courtney, and I'm soexcited that you're here because
we have Kathy Mao on thepodcast.
Kathy is the host of the Igniteyour Power with Kathy Mao
podcast and she also createdthis concept called the Bliss
Soft Life, and that's reallywhat she's here to talk with us
about today.
So the Bliss Soft Life is thisconcept that Kathy has really
(01:34):
embodied over the last few yearsof trying to heal her
endometriosis and can be able toconceive, and she didn't want
to let her endometriosis stopher from becoming a mom and also
just living a more empoweringlife.
So this episode, kathy, isgoing to dive all into what it
means to live a Bliss, soft Life, which we talked a lot about
(01:57):
building resiliency, manifestingyour desires and being more
authentic to yourself, whichalso touched on spirituality,
because you kind of have to haveboth.
In order to be your authenticself, you have to have a sense
of yourself, which that comesthrough really a spirituality
journey.
So I think you're going toreally love this episode.
(02:18):
Kathy and I had such anempowering conversation and we
really connected in this episodeand it was just such a great
way to connect with her throughthis podcast and be able to
share this conversation with you.
So if you end up loving thisepisode which I'm sure that you
will you can go ahead and take ascreenshot of you listening and
you can tag us in yourInstagram stories.
So I am at Journey2Limitlessunderscore and Kathy's Instagram
(02:41):
is kathymau.
So that's k-a-t-h-ym-o-u and,like I said, we always just
appreciate you letting us knowthat you tune in and letting us
know what you took away from theepisode.
So definitely take a screenshotand tag us.
That way we can both say thankyou for spreading the message,
so let's go ahead and jump rightin.
(03:01):
Welcome, kathy, toJourney2Limitless podcast.
I'm so excited that you're heretoday, and I'm really excited
to learn more about your storyand how you have gotten to where
you are today in your journey.
So thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Thank you for having me.
I'm so excited to be here andto share what I've been through,
so thank you again.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I know today we're going to be talking a lot
about your concept of the blisslife and before we get into that
, I would just love if you canjust share with us your story
like how, like what, have youovercome, the challenges that
you've overcome and how you havegotten to where you are today.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes.
So in 2019, I got married and Igot married late, like in my
30s.
So I wanted to have kids rightwhen I got married and I thought
it was going to be easy, justlike my sisters.
They both tried once and thenthey got their kid.
So I thought that was going tobe the case but it was complete
opposite.
Like I suffered with infertilityfor two years with my husband
(04:07):
and I was just so out of tunewith my body because I like in
the healthcare system you know,they just give women birth
control.
As a young girl, I've alwayshad crazy periods, etc.
And so through my infertilityjourney, I finally got diagnosed
with endometriosis.
So it's like a chronic illnessthat I'll always have and it
(04:30):
takes at least 10 to 12 years toget a diagnosis, but for me it
took 20 years because I was justso out of tune.
So, with suffering withinfertility, I became very
depressed and I was just at thelowest point in my life that I
never thought I would be,because I'm a very cheerful
person, like pretty positive,optimistic, and I was just not
(04:51):
me.
I didn't even know who I was,and so after two years of like
trying, and every month I wouldset myself up for disaster, like
taking pregnancy tests and thenI'll obviously getting negative
test results for two yearsstraight, was just so like
messing up with your mind thatfinally my sister, my twin
(05:11):
sister like told me somethingthat I needed to hear and not
something that I wanted to hear,but she was like Kathy, are you
doing everything in your powerto actually make this happen for
you?
And I was like thinking tomyself like, wow, why would you
say this to me at this time?
But that's what I needed tohear.
And I thought about and I waslike actually, no, I'm not, I'm
(05:32):
just stuck in this victimmindset of like the world is
against me, everything sucks,like life is terrible.
And then I was like actually Ididn't.
I wasn't like eating the best,I wasn't taking care of myself,
I wasn't maximizing my fertility, you know, and seeing
specialists.
So I empowered myself.
(05:55):
And then I was like, okay, therehas to be some way to overcome
these things or infertility.
So I found a specialist, I wentthrough IVF.
I even just like went toacupuncturists and then I went
on a bean protocol.
I just like Google to holisticways and I just like somehow
(06:15):
found the bean protocol I don'tknow if you've heard of it, but
it's just like you eat a bunchof fiber to help, like, get rid
of the toxins, becauseendometriosis is like kind of
your hormones are imbalanced andinflammation in your body, and
so finally, like a year of juststraight up empowering myself,
like learning, putting thingsinto action, changing my
(06:38):
lifestyle, and then boom, rightwhen I was trying to give up.
So I did try IVF and then I gota laparoscopy the same year, in
2021.
And I got a miscarriage and Ijust felt so low again after my
IVF the first round.
So the husband and I stoppedjust for one month and we got
(07:00):
pregnant, naturally, rightbefore our second round of IVF.
So I knew in that moment intime that everything that I did
for the whole year of empoweringmyself, it gave me the results
that I was wanting to be a mom.
So it was a hard journey, but Iknow that, after going through
(07:20):
this, that anybody can do this.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Right, and I love what you said about like you
kind of had that reality check.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Oh, it was maybe in your mind.
You thought that you were doingeverything and everything that
you could do.
But then someone was, like youknow, kind of checked you and
kind of realized and like,actually there's probably a lot
more that I could be doing itwithin my mindset, within my day
to day living.
A lot of times it's it's it'slooking at things from a
holistic standpoint that canreally change our life.
(07:48):
And I've you know from having alot of people on this podcast
you are sharing their stories ofchronic illness.
Like chronic illness does nothave to be something that you
have to be a victim of.
Like you can through change.
I mean.
I mean that's a lot of mindsetchange in order to change your
daily life, but there's ways toto empower yourself through it.
(08:10):
And, yes, the fact that youconceived naturally like that
just goes to show the hard workthat you dedicated yourself to
for a year.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, thank you.
And that's the thing is in ourhealthcare system we're taught,
like you know, you're supposedto take all these medications
etc and rely on the healthcaresystem and I mean they're great
for certain things, but reallyit's everybody's different,
their body is different.
But you have to get to knowyourself and what works for you.
(08:37):
And the holistic approach isawesome because you really get
to the root of the problem.
And you know, through myjourney, that's how I found out
I had endometriosis and then Itackle my endometriosis, which
helped with my infertility, andlike everything's combined, you
know like your mindset, yourphysical body and your emotional
, like everything's combined.
(08:59):
And through this journey it'slike, wow, that's why it's
called the holistic approachright, it's the whole body
approach.
So it's such a beautiful thingto learn and through my journey
I just loved how I became awhole different person and I
learned to really love myself,to take care of myself, and you
(09:19):
know how my body actuallyfunctions.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, it is just wild the transformation that happens
when you start to really takecare of yourself mind, body,
spirit in a holistic sense, likeyou really do become a whole
different person.
I can see that in my ownjourney of navigating chronic
illness, like I look at myselfnow and who I was prior to
diagnosis.
Also, I don't know if you canrelate to this, but like the
(09:45):
grieving process of realizingthat you had endometriosis, like
I'm sure that that in itselfwas a really difficult thing to
accept, right, and you likelywish that you could go back to
the time in your life when youdidn't have it right.
But then now I went throughthat with my ulcerative colitis
and now I look and I'm likeactually I wouldn't go back to
(10:06):
the life that I had prior to mychronic illness because it
really changed me into theperson that I've always really
wanted to be, someone who caresabout their mind, body, soul,
right.
So it's just wild thetransformation, the personal
development that can happenthrough a chronic illness
diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yes, it's so true, and it's crazy how you have to
go through that transition tolearn, and having a chronic
illness makes you really takecare of yourself.
You learn self-love andself-care, and that's something
that people with chronic illnesshave to learn and do, which is,
you know, crucial, and it'sactually good for us and now we
(10:49):
get to teach it to other people.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, because you can't hate yourself to healthier
life, right Like, you deserveto feel better.
You deserve to live the lifethat you really want to and it's
through, yes, learning how tocare for yourself in a more
holistic sense, learning how togive yourself compassion, and
not putting the blame onyourself, because I know a lot
(11:12):
of times, when it comes to adiagnosis, we can sometimes be
like, oh, I should have beendoing this, or oh, I should have
been doing that, or I failed atthis, and it can really mess
with our self-worth andself-confidence.
But it's like coming at it froma self-compassion lens, like
you don't know, unless you havethat realization and really just
(11:33):
coming at things from aself-compassion lens and really
can grow through self love, youcan really grow an immense
amount of self love for yourself.
Yes, yeah, exactly, yeah, so,yeah, so, um, like I said, we're
today, we're really going to betalking about your bliss soft
life concept.
Uh, so I first just want toknow, like what, what is bliss
(11:54):
soft life and how has itpersonally transformed your life
?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So the bliss soft life if you think about the two
terms, by itself so blissful,what do you think?
You know, like contentment,happiness, and then like soft,
is like something really easygoing right.
So when you have this bliss offlife, you're living in your
full power, where you trust inthe universe, you trust in
(12:18):
yourself, you're so confidentthat life is just so blissful
and easy when you realize this.
And so this is how it my blissoff life came about because I
grew up living a hard, reallylet hard, lifestyle because my
parents were immigrants and theycame here and I just thought
that everything was, you know,full of lack and you have to
(12:40):
earn everything through the hardway.
But after having my chronicillness and diagnosis, like, I
had to learn to slow down, tocare of myself and, just like
trust in the divine and thespirit, you know my spiritual
side, which is a huge piece thatI never tapped into.
So the bliss soft life is justknowing that you know the
(13:03):
universe and that we're so like,we're so infinite beings here
on earth, like for a mission,and just knowing that and
trusting in the universe you'lllive this bliss off life.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I love the concept of, I mean, really in a
chronic illness diagnosis andreally any time that you're
going through hardship, I justtruly like to think about, like
this is my soul's path.
I am not handed anything andthe person listening to this is
not handed anything that youcannot handle, right, that
you're not handed anything thatyou cannot overcome and not get
(13:38):
through.
And I think, definitely whenyou're, when you're handed a
difficult circumstance, whenyou're handed a diagnosis, a lot
of times the only thing that wecan do, one of the best things
that we can do, is start to leaninto that trust that, hey, this
is happening for me in somesense, even if right now I don't
completely understand it.
I trust that I will and I'mtrust that I'm being guided in
(14:00):
the direction that I'm supposedto go.
Yeah, so.
I love that that's like one ofthe key components of your bliss
, soft life, because I thinkthat also does bring the bring
the softness to it of like, hey,I get to relax and yes, yeah,
I'm taken care of yes, exactly,it's that mindset.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Right, that's the mindset piece that you really
have to overcome and stop likelistening to your ego mind and
like how everything's like, youknow, not the way you want, and
you're always in this lackmindset.
But when you're in the bliss,soft life, you're like so
empowered, you just trusting,and you're just like confident
in yourself and the universe andyou're just like, okay, I got
(14:39):
this and I kind of just liketrust and it's, it's supposed to
be easy, like you know, becauseit's not.
Yeah, you're not resisting,you're just letting it flow,
like positive energy is flowingto you yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So I know that there may be someone on the other side
of this who is like, okay, thisis a great concept.
How would you help someonestart to really embody this
bliss, soft life concept?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
so we're all at different journeys in our life,
but the main thing if you reallywant to start it is to start
changing your mindset.
That's like one key component.
So if you're always in like thisvictim mindset, that everything
is against you, it's going tobe really hard to live this
lifestyle because you're goingto have to really tap into the
(15:25):
spiritual, divine and tap intoyour spirituality and get to
really know yourself.
So self-love and self-care iscrucial and so taking the time
to meditate or, you know, beingquiet with yourself and a lot of
us since we live in afast-paced world, right, we're
(15:46):
always like watching tv or onour phones or just like never
really quieting ourselves toreally get to know ourselves and
trust me, I know this because Ilived that life and actually
quieting your mind is gonnareally get to know yourself.
And then when you understandwhat makes you happy, that's
(16:07):
when magic happens, becauseyou're vibing at a higher
vibration.
So everything is energy in life.
And if you're at a lowvibration like when depression,
like I was in my depressed state, like everything negative
happened because I was in thatfrequency but when you're loving
yourself and you're confidentand you know, your mindset is
(16:28):
just so strong and you know thatyou can overcome anything and
you trust in the divine.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Like dude, you're just vibing at a high vibration
and your life is just so mucheasier yeah, I was at a
conference recently calledempower her live and we were
talking about, like, self-worth,like I think, a lot of times
when, like I said, chronicillness, hardship, a lot of
times that can diminish ourself-worth, right, but I think
(16:55):
that you can use this concept ina lot of different senses.
So, um, what one of the speakerssaid, jamie Kern Lima is like,
a lot of times, when you are inthat negative space, a lot of
times it's not just like it'snot bombarding yourself with
like toxic positivity, like youcan't give yourself an
affirmation of like I'm the bestever, when, like, maybe that's
not true, that doesn't feel truefor you right now.
(17:16):
Right, so you can't likebombard yourself with toxic
positive positivity, but you canfind something to replace that
negative thought.
That is just a step, a stepabove it.
Like it's not, it's not likethe full negative, it's like
what's something that you canlean into of.
That's like, um, like I likelet's say what I'm trying to do.
You understand what I'm tryingto say yeah.
(17:37):
I totally get it like not sayinglike, oh, I'm the best ever,
but it's like I'm doing the bestthat I can, yes, versus like I
suck, like I suck, no, I'm doingthe best that I can.
Instead of saying like I'm thebest ever, like maybe you're not
at that point right now, butyou can replace that really
negative talk with somethingjust a little, you know, just
I'm a little bit more positive,right, yes.
So I think that could always belike a really great step to
(17:59):
kind of start with the start,switching the the negative
self-talk around a bit exactlybeing aware that you have that
negative self-talk too.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yes, yes, being aware is one of the key pieces.
A lot of us aren't aware ofwhere of like, where we are in
life and what our surroundingsis, and like how your thought
process is, you know, and sowhen you start getting to know
yourself, that's when, like, youknow, you're like, you're like,
you're like, you're like,you're like, you're being aware
and you're understanding, like,whoa, this is what actually
(18:28):
truly makes me happy.
It's so crazy because a lot ofpeople that I talk to don't even
know what really makes themhappy.
They think they know, theythink they're like people
pleasing, like, oh, making otherpeople happy is really making
me happy.
But no, that's not it.
You're just people pleasing,because you're taught that.
But what truly makes you happy?
Right, like going out to theocean and seeing animals?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
like that makes you true, you know what is it, yeah,
yeah, getting quiet enough toreally tune into yourself and a
lot of times, yeah, like whatyou said, is the people pleasing
?
Like a lot of times, that'slike your mind, that's your mind
telling you what is true, likewhat is true for you, but, like,
I think, getting quiet andlistening to your own intuition,
listening to your own body islike, yeah, that's the way right
(19:16):
.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Exactly exactly, and a lot of us don't tap into our
power.
So when you're living a blissoff life, you're just this
powerful being and you know it.
So it's like following yourintuition, your gut feeling, and
you're, and you just know it athousand percent.
That's like truly who you are.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah.
So let's say okay.
So a little bit more likespecifically about the
principles.
I think we kind of touched onthis throughout your explanation
of it, but just kind of divinginto each of the
transformational principles ofbliss off life, Like what are,
like the set aspects of thebliss off life and kind of
laying them out.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So the aspects is, like you know learning how to
really be resilient and you know, when life throws you hardships
, you have to know that you'regoing to be able to overcome it.
You're going to trust inyourself, like, yes, okay, this
is what the human experience is.
(20:17):
We're here to learn things.
And so if you have that mindset, knowing that it's going to get
better and this is a lifelesson that I'm learning then
you know that you're going to beable to overcome it and then
you're going to learn from itand grow and up level yourself,
and then you're going to keepgrowing and then keeping the
best version of yourself, andthen you're just going to be
(20:40):
able to live like the true,authentic you that you're
supposed to be.
So another principle is, likeyou know authenticity, like
being your true self, what makesyou truly happy, like we kind
of touched upon that and when,again, like I feel like a lot of
people don't really know theirauthentic self and what truly
makes them who they are.
(21:00):
But and a lot of us don't evenknow what our life purpose is,
but I think we both know,because after going through
something huge, like we kind ofget a spiritual awakening or
some type of awakening to learn,and it forces us to be this way
now that we get to be on thisplatform and teach people.
So, actually being yourauthentic self, you'll know,
(21:23):
like, what your life purpose isand you're just going to be
truly happy with life whenyou're in this stage of
authenticity and not like peoplepleasing or you know working on
, you know setting your ownboundaries, et cetera.
So being your authentic self isone of the key pieces and just
accepting your quirkiness andyour, you know individuality and
(21:47):
it's so crazy that you know, inour society we're taught to be
like.
You know let's all be the same.
It's actually no, what makes usdifferent is what makes us
shine.
So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So I'm kind of curious like, oh, go ahead.
So sorry, go ahead no it's okay.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I was going to say in the last pieces, like you know,
doing manifestation, mindfulmanifestation, is another key
piece into the bliss of lifethat we can kind of talk about.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, I think the next thing that I just want to
ask you about is like living amore authentic life.
That can be really challenging,like you said, because of
people pleasing, because ofother people's opinions, because
of I mean just the way thatsociety is really like.
It can be really overwhelmingand really scary to start to
(22:39):
really own yourself and shareyourself.
So I'm just curious how hasyour journey looked with really
stepping into being who you areand not being ashamed to be the
fully expressed version ofyourself?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, so I grew up being an ESL kid and I was shy,
I didn't talk and, like youwould not know, that's that used
to be me.
But when I learned to be moreconfident in myself and I knew
that I had a life purpose, totalk about this bliss of life,
that I knew that this was mypurpose, it wasn't about me.
(23:13):
So when you're like learningabout authenticity, it's like
you're not.
It's not all about you andeverybody's like I guess your
mindset's not all about yourself.
It's about servicing others,and so you're so confident and
happy with life.
That and that point.
It's not all about yourself.
(23:33):
It's like how can you be aservice, how can you help other
people?
And that's correlates with howit makes you happy, if that
makes sense 100%, and I canrelate to you with being the shy
girl.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's kind of wild because you have a podcast as
well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, so we both have podcasts and, like I just
always think about if people Iguarantee you, people from high
school, probably, like Courtneyhas a podcast.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I literally was always like Courtney.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
you're so.
People were always likeCourtney.
You're so shy, like I was knownas the shy girl, and now I'm
like.
Now I'm sharing some of mydeepest secrets and stories on a
podcast.
And I'm like it is true,because when you start to
understand what your purpose is,you can't not show up and share
your purpose.
Yes, your purpose has to belouder than your fear, like my
(24:22):
business coach said, like youhave to.
It's like there's times onsocial media I'm sure you've had
this experience too where youkind of want to go back into
that shy girl space.
It's like, oh my gosh, I'msharing myself.
This is really scary.
I don't know what to do.
I don't want people to judge meand it's like, but there's
someone on the other side ofthis who, like, needs to see my
example, who needs to hear thisstory, who is in this experience
(24:45):
, who just wants to know thatthey're not alone, right?
So we have to show up for theperson who could be impacted by
us showing up in our purpose and, yeah, just like allowing our
purpose to be louder than ourfear, and I can really relate to
you and like your purposereally got you out of your shy
girl shell, like me.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yes, I know I love it .
I would never know that aboutyou?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
No, I was so shy Like it's like why on, how shy I was
.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That's so great.
Same I.
You know I was.
Just I never talked cause I wasan ESL kid, so I just didn't
want to be made fun of, so Ijust never talked, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I just didn't.
I don't know.
I just felt like I didn't haveanything that I wanted to share
Right.
I feared a lot of judgment.
People always felt different.
I always felt like I was goingto live a different life and I
just felt like I couldn't relateto people and I just didn't
know what to say.
I just was like I don't know.
People were intimidating to meand I was just like I'm just
(25:46):
gonna not like keep to myself.
And yeah, it's just wild thetransformation that I've had in
my own life, but it was reallythrough learning about myself
right.
Yeah, and really stepping intothat purpose and just not, yeah,
just letting your purpose belouder than your fear.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And isn't that amazing when you step into that
power and not let fear or yourego get in the way.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, Now it's like wild that I have a whole podcast
about that.
I'm like who am I?
How did I become this person?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You're you, finally, you know, stepped in your
spiritual higher self is like ohmy gosh.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
finally, Courtney, you remember why you're here on
earth, yeah, doing, yeah, it'sso true, right?
Because a lot of times, throughconditioning, we get so far
away from ourselves through theway that you know society is
supposed to be, yeah, divinginto our spirituality.
By getting quiet, by listeningto ourselves, we come back home,
to our truth.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yes, and it's so crazy because this bliss soft
life concept came when I tappedinto my spiritual side and then,
um, I believe that my higherself gave me this idea and I was
like what is crazy, cause I wasjust having coffee and then
it's just like they're like youneed to just preach about the
bliss soft life and I was likewhoa.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, that's kind of how it was with me with Journey
to Limitless of like.
This name came through and Iwas just like, okay, I'm
supposed to share about myjourney of chasing my dreams.
And then, you know, things gotmessy with having chronic
illness, and it was always thislike root of like we do not have
to be held back by ourcircumstances, right, and now,
(27:28):
like, I went through some recenthardship, um, you know, over
the last few months, and my thisconcept of being on this
Journey to Limitless literallygot me through right.
So it's something that evenourselves, who are the
facilitators of our movements,like it's always a reminder for
us too, cause it can be so easyto, kind of, you know, get back
(27:51):
into our old spirals and our oldstories and everything.
But it's like, hey, like, no,like you're on a Journey to
Limitless, this is hardshipsgoing to happen, you can be
resilient, you can stillmanifest your dreams and, um,
you know, we got to get.
We got to get ourselves back ontrack sometimes too.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
So, yes, yeah, exactly yeah.
And then that's why your higherpurpose and the purpose and
knowing yourself helps you getback on track.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, so, um, the last part of the bliss life that
you were just talking abouttowards the end of that was
manifestation.
Yeah, so can you share somepractical, or, yeah, some
practical tips, um, for mindfulmen?
Ah, I can't talk.
No, no worries.
Um, so the last part of thebliss life, uh, which is what
(28:37):
you're talking about towards theend, there was about
manifestation.
So how can individualsincorporate mindful
manifestation into their dailylives to create positive change.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
So mindful manifestation is a powerful,
powerful practice, right.
So it aligns your thoughts,beliefs and actions to
consciously create the rereality you desire.
And so you need to have, like,a stronger mindset to start
manifesting the things that youwant.
So earlier I kind of mentioned,like, if you're in a depressed
(29:08):
state and so like, in thisvictim mindset, it's going to be
hard for you to manifestanything that you want because
you're at a low vibration, right.
So you have to start practicingmindful practices to get your
mind thinking differently.
And so obviously you kind oftouch upon this too.
Like you know, you can't say,oh, I want.
Or, like you know, if you'redepressed and then you're going
(29:30):
to say, oh, I'm so great andpowerful, like you know, it's
not going to coincide.
You have to like do a babysteps out of time at where you
are in life.
So, say, if you're at adepressed state and then you got
to practice mindfulness, howare you going to get out of this
depressed state?
And so what I teach my clientsis to practice gratitude.
So you can't you, you can'tlike be great.
(29:53):
So gratitude is like a highervibrational thing and their
opposites right Of depression.
So you're either in a gratefuland happy state or you're in
this depressed state.
So I told people to practicegratitude and just this easy
practice like saying threethings you're grateful for
before you go to sleep, or likewhen you right, when you wake up
(30:13):
or any time in the day when youfeel like it, it'll just raise
your vibration, like just babysteps like that, and you know it
helps change your mindset.
And you know you it's just kindof like a.
It's like a when you're trainingfor something right, when
sports, like how do people, howdo people train for, like,
(30:34):
running a marathon, they takebaby steps.
They're not going to do a, youknow a mile in like whatever if
they never ran before, right?
So taking those baby steps, dothat with your mind because it's
a muscle.
So doing practices like evenjournaling, you know, just
expressing anything to make yourmind like be aware of yourself
(30:55):
and, you know, maybe eventalking to other people, like
coaches too, it can help youbring awareness and help build
your mindset and keep making itstrong.
And so when you have a strongermindset, you just can like
manifest anything that you wanteasier and you attract
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everything that you you knowyou're vibing at.
So if you're at a low vibration, then that's what you're going
to keep attracting, and ifyou're at a higher vibration,
you're going to be able to trackwhat you want Right.
So it's like practicing that,and people think about
manifestation as like, oh, howcome I never see those results?
It's like, well, because youhaven't really taken the time
(31:37):
and actions to do that.
Like, yeah, I'm like, forexample, me I wanted a child and
then in my victim mindset andfor two years I was just crying
all day and then I was like, Iwant a baby.
So badly and it never happenedbecause, you know, was I doing
anything about it?
No, but when I literally tookthat whole year to do and
(31:57):
practice everything, like youknow, to change my mindset and
to, like, change my lifestyle,like boom, it happened for me.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
You were on your way of becoming a woman who could,
who could conceive a child.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
We're on the way of like setting up your life, like
to be a healthier woman, so youcan make that happen.
Right, like I think a lot oftimes manifestation is taking
the steps and the direction ofbecoming the people that we want
to be.
Yes, right and yes.
I think having gratitude is oneof the best ways to start
raising your vibration, and itdoesn't have to be like you know
.
I know when you're in a in adepressed state, like you know,
(32:32):
you're not going to very easilyfind things to be grateful for,
because a lot of times we thinkit has to be these like massive,
big things.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
But it can literally be.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I'm so grateful that I have a roof over my head.
Yes, I'm so grateful that thesun is shining today.
I'm so grateful that my dog ishere.
Like it can be these tinythings that can just shift,
shift your energy, and such a itreally truly does come down to
the tiny things and I think alot of times it is putting
yourself in the energy of likewhat you want to feel as well.
(33:00):
Like, if you are wanting tocreate more freedom, more joy in
your life, you have to spendtime doing even the tiny things
that can bring you just aglimmer of that Right and really
noticing like, wow, I feelfreedom right now.
Wow, I feel joyful watchingthis TV show, I feel joyful
listening to my favorite song.
Like you have to put yourselvesin the environment of things
(33:22):
that bring you joy on thatsmaller level and that will
create more of that in your life?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yes, Exactly, Exactly .
And then you know it getsbetter and stronger and stronger
.
And then you're just like, ohmy gosh, and then you just
develop into the person thatyou've been wanting to be and
you know you really have tofollow your gut and intuition.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, and manifestation isn't just like
talking about it like you did.
You had to take the steps inorder for it to happen, like,
yes, you were manifesting it,but because you were also taking
the steps toward that beingyour reality too, it's not
manifesting it and doing nothing.
Yeah, manifesting requiresaction, exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Right Aligned action, exactly.
And I think that's a lot of thebiggest mistakes.
When people think aboutmanifestation, they're just like
I visualized it.
Why isn't it popping up?
And I'm like well, did you takesteps towards that action?
Like, or your manifestation,like you know, you don't have to
make it so hard or difficult,but you know, like, doing little
(34:23):
baby steps, like towards it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And something that I just want to share here is like
your manifestation again, you donot have to do all of the work.
Yes, I just want to say thisvery clearly Like I have, I'm
not going to okay.
So I have been wanting to buy atiny house for nine years and I
have this opportunity landingin my lap right now where I am
(34:51):
going to be taking the stepstowards buying it.
But it didn't happen because ofme putting in all this action.
It was just I honestly justkept meeting people, I kept
putting myself out there, I kepttalking about it.
That's taking action Doesn'tmean that you have to go put a
down payment on somethingbecause the opportunity now has
landed in my lap and I'm likeliterally freaking out about it.
(35:11):
So I'm like, wow, I manifestedthis.
So do not think thatmanifesting is you have to take
all of the action.
It's just always keeping it inyour mind and talking about it.
Um, maybe it is even likeputting yourself out there.
You never know the people thatcan come into your life, the
opportunities that can, that cancome into your life, and always
just trusting that it willhappen and not putting a
(35:32):
timeline on it.
This is the thing that I havebeen really turned off with when
it comes to goals.
I love goal setting and I thinkit can give us direction, but I
think sometimes, when itdoesn't happen on the timeline
that we want to, we give up alltogether.
Like I said, this is a nineyear dream that is manifesting
in my life right now and I nevergave up on it.
And if I would have been hungup of like, oh, I want this tiny
(35:53):
house by the time I'm 25 yearsold, I would have been way upset
about it long time ago.
I'm now 29 and it's manifesting.
You know, we can't hold ontothe timelines, right.
Exactly Just trusting that themanifestations will happen and
not not losing hope.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
You know yes, exactly , not losing hope, that's a key
piece.
I love that.
That's what you shared.
It's true, because, same waywith my house, like when I just
let go and I just trusted andput it out there like, um, I
didn't make like crazy actionsteps or anything.
We just kind of looked athouses here and there and when I
stepped into the house that Ilive in now, I just stepped in
(36:29):
and was like, oh my God, this ismy house, I feel it.
And then boom, like two monthslater they're like, oh, we'll
take, accept your offer and thisis your house.
So it's kind of like you know,trusting in the divine, that
everything is is for your highergood.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And not not think a lot of the big pieces.
People always think about thathow, like, how is it going to
happen?
Like everybody's stuck on that.
No, let go of the how.
Just picture the end resultsand then letting, like your
spirit guides or whatever theuniverse, like you know, there's
just so many directions, thattons and thousands of directions
(37:05):
.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Just let it happen, you know right, and I think a
lot of times it's our ego thattells us the timeline like it's
a logical mind to be like thisneeds to happen by this time and
this time it's like, actuallythat's not how your life is
going to go, right, and you cankind of miss opportunities when
you're so hung up on how thingsare supposed to happen.
(37:26):
Instead, knowing what you want,keep putting yourselves in the
space where you can have theopportunities for it to happen,
but not being so tied to ithappening on your timeline.
Right, yes, exactly, yeah, likeknowing your direction but
being free and it will happen.
Yeah, yes, yeah, so let's see.
(37:50):
Wrapping up, so for anyonelistening who may be going
through any of their ownchallenges, what advice would
you offer them to find more joy,resilience and fulfillment in
their life?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I would start giving this big piece of advice of self
love and doing self care,because we do not do enough of
this and these self care andself love are two separate
things.
Like everything, everybodythinks self care is the same
thing as self love, but it's notso.
Self love is like the emotionalpiece, right?
(38:23):
So like that feeling that youlove somebody.
Like you have a kid, you loveyour kid or pet or family right,
you have to give that emotionback to yourself.
And when I ask people that I'mlike, do you ever give yourself
self love?
They're like, yeah, I go give amassage or, like you know,
workout, or I'm like those areself care things and that's a
huge piece.
And a lot of us don't loveourselves, right?
(38:45):
Yeah, we're so disconnected.
So when you know you are likeliving the bliss of love, you
love yourself, you're soconfident and you just practice
this daily, like now you knowwhat I do?
I give myself hugs.
I literally go like this andgive myself hugs and this starts
raising your vibrations, juststarts making magic happen for
you, because you know you'reliving life for yourself and
(39:07):
your sole purpose.
So the key piece is to startloving yourself and then doing
self care practices, likenourishing your body with food
right, or like with healthyfoods and moving your body those
are self care things and a lotof us don't do that too right
and learning what makes youhappy, and these two things are
(39:30):
literally life changing.
And then I guess, in any statein life of where you're at, you
know maybe, like if you're superdepressed or if just like
you're so sick of life, orsomething you tap into your own
power, like and your self loveand self care, that's when
things will start changing foryou.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, I think everything's always rooted in
self love, like self love isyour ability to carry yourself
through and go after your dreams.
You love yourself enough to notgive up on yourself.
You love yourself enough tospeak to yourself kindly.
You love yourself enough tolike, yeah, just like, yeah, I
mean nourishing yourself, caring, like, really taking care of
(40:11):
yourself.
But it's a lot deeper than that.
It's the way that you talk toyourself.
It's the way that you believethat your dreams are possible.
Right, it's believing inyourself.
Yes, it's really really deep,and I really love that you're
saying that that's the firststep, because I truly believe
that, yes, when we can catapult,when we not catapult, when we
can cultivate a really strongsense of self love, like that is
(40:32):
really where, when shifthappens in life.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, exactly Right.
So when you know having chronicillness, that's what we had to
learn self care and self love.
And then boom, like it keeps,you know, leading you into your
life purpose.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, and I can see that in my own journey of like.
When I was first diagnosed withall sort of colitis back in
2019, I had no self love, like Iwas shaming myself for being
diagnosed.
I was shaming myself in alldirections.
And then the flare that I hadlast year, I just remember
feeling that sense of like we'regoing to get through this, like
I love you, I'm so sorry thatyou're that.
Like I was talking to my colon.
(41:08):
I was like I'm so sorry that,like this is happening, I love
you and like we're going to getthrough this.
Beautiful and it's just thatshift.
That's, that's the work thatI've done on myself over the
last few years.
And, yeah, just seeing thatshift happen.
And, yeah, self love, reallylike carries you through
everything in life.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, it really does.
And one, one big thing I do formyself now.
I used to never do.
It's kind of weird, but I givemyself hugs and I'm like I love
you.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
You're so amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I do too.
Yeah, oh, I love that.
Okay cool.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of usdon't, but it's such a great
practice, right, Don't you feelgood?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Oh, yeah, oh yeah, I gave myself a hug recently when
I was going through a difficultthing and I was like it's okay,
like you got this yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
I love that.
So you know, doing that self,self love practice and it's just
beautiful.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah.
So do you have a song or anaffirmation that you go to when
you need the reminder that youare limitless?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yes, of course I always.
I have an affirmation that Ilove using.
I just say I am powerful andI'm this amazing, infinite being
, and I will get through this.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, yeah, I just think, yeah, having these
powerful, I can't tell if I'mcutting you off or not.
No, no, okay, I thought maybe Iheard you talking the.
Yeah, it's kind of glitching alittle bit, but yeah, I just
think, always having anaffirmation in your back pocket
that you can go to when, when,maybe some things are, some
(42:41):
things are hitting the faninstead of going down that
spiral of victim mentality orfear right.
Turning back to love of like Iam powerful, I can get through
this, Like this is challenging,but I got my.
I always go to, I have this one.
I say like I got my back, Ihave my back, Like oh, okay, I
love that, yeah, so, yeah, yeah.
So this was a really amazingconversation, kathy.
(43:04):
Thank you so much for yourinsight and your wisdom today,
but before we hop off, can youjust share what you're excited
about and then, where thelisteners can find you, to
connect with you?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yes, so I'm excited about actually writing my book
about the bliss of life.
I, yes, so I'm like in theprocess of writing it and then
trying to get it published.
So I'm excited.
So I'll keep you guys postedabout that in the future.
You guys can find me more on atmy website, at KathyMaocom, or
on Instagram at my handle isKathy Mao, and yeah, you could
(43:40):
just reach out to me and bothplaces and yeah, I'll just be so
happy to connect.
If you even have any questions,like, I'm always down to answer
them or help in any way.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah Well, thank you again, kathy, and I look forward
for the listeners to hear thisand we'll chat soon.
Yeah, okay.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
It means so much to me thatyou're here and that you're
taking the time to listen to thepodcast.
If you found this episode to bevaluable to you, it would mean
so much to me if you shared itwith your friends, who you think
(44:14):
could also really benefit fromthis message.
You can take a screenshot ofyou listening and tag me in your
Instagram stories.
I am at journey to Lemilisunderscore.
That also gives me the chanceto connect with you and say
thank you.
So until next week, I hope thatyou have an amazing week ahead
of you and I'll talk to you then.
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