August 27, 2025 • 53 mins
Paul Fishman isn't your typical stylist. As an "image alchemist" & 2/4 Sacral MG, he's revolutionizing the relationship between personal style and self-expression through a holistic approach that begins from within. In this conversation, Paul reveals the three pillars of his Image Alchemy practice—style, systems, and strategy—that help entrepreneurs & public-facing individuals align their inner mission with their external presentation.
What makes Paul's approach unique is his integration of Human Design principles into the styling process. He explains how understanding your authority type influences decision-making around purchases and how different energy types approach their wardrobes differently. For manifesting generators who thrive on change, flexibility might be key, while generators might find joy in signature pieces that consistently bring satisfaction.
The conversation reaches its most transformative point when Paul introduces the concept of being "the solution" for your clients. By asking yourself how that solution shows up and speaks, you shift focus from personal identity to the value you provide.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, welcome back to the podcast journey.
To well, I realized that Inever actually introduced my
name and I'm like my whole brandis myself.
So my name is Hannah, if thisis your first time listening to
the podcast, and I am joinedtoday with Paul Fishman.
He is a stylist and imagealchemist and I haven't had a
(00:24):
personal stylist on my podcast.
Technically, years ago I had astylist on my YouTube channel,
but this is a really funconversation to have today, paul
, so thank you so much forcoming on.
I'm super excited for ourconversation.
I'm gonna let you introduceyourself.
One of the other things that Iabsolutely love about you is
(00:44):
that you are also into humandesign.
So Paul is a 2-4 sacralmanifesting generator and we're
going to talk all about humandesign and even maybe how we can
integrate that with ourpersonal style.
Like, how would we even do that?
So super excited to chat withyou, paul.
Give your brief introductionwhenever you would like to share
(01:04):
.
There's no right or wrong here,but who is Paul Fishman?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, hannah, thank you so much for having me and
I'm so excited for thisconversation.
Who is Paul Fishman?
Paul Fishman is a multifacetedentrepreneurial soul, here to
empower and inspire anyone whofeels called to be empowered,
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inspired by me, to align theirinner mission and values and
just passion with how they showup in the world physically,
emotionally, mentally,spiritually.
And I do that through myfoundational 360 degree holistic
(01:50):
styling program, image Alchemy,which is alchemizing your
internal with your external andusing tools like strategy,
mindset and styling to optimizeyour personal brand and how you
speak before you even say a word.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh, I love that how you speak before you say a word.
I love this conversationalready.
So when we were chatting beforewe hit record a couple, well,
when we kind of connected acouple weeks ago, uh, you shared
that you have these threepillars of your business of
(02:31):
image alchemy, um, style,systems and strategy.
One of the things that I lovethe most about your approach is
really learning and and kind ofdiving into and excavating
what's going on inside and thenusing, I would assume, a system
to transform that internal intookay.
(02:53):
So how am I going to dress, howam I going to accessorize, how
am I going to show up for myselfand, and, I guess, with myself?
So, dive in a little bit tothose three pillars and then I
really want to get into likethat internal and external stuff
.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Sure.
Well, I think that the best wayto share how these pillars
impact a human is to share alittle story about a current
client that I'm working with.
And then there was a potentialclient that came to me because
they had met my current clientand she is so my client.
(03:36):
She is a high powered attorneyand she we've been working
together for over a year, so youhave to imagine that when she
came to me she was ready toup-level her style.
And she came to me because shewas attracted to my energy and
how I present myself on socialmedia and we connected over the
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fact that she really loved thecolor pink and she really loved
to dress in suits but didn'twant to be this stuffy lawyer.
So I started kind of diggingdeeper into who she is and we
really got to know like thesystems that she already has in
place for her day-to-day life,and from there I optimized with
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a strategy of dressing in a waythat presented her as someone to
take seriously but also allowedher to step into her joy as an
emotional generator.
So we use the human design.
So anyway, long story longer.
She's at an event and she'sreally embodied with who she is
and she's wearing this amazingoutfit and this other person
(04:46):
walks up to her and says I needyour outfit, like I love it so
much.
How do I get it?
And she said let me give youPaul's information.
This person reaches out to meand says, hey, I want to order
this.
And I said, okay, we shouldprobably have a conversation
first, because I want to makesure that you'll be able to hold
the energetics of showing up inthis really bright suit.
(05:10):
Okay, so essentially, what I'mgetting at here is my client.
She's really embodied herselfto the point where she felt so
confident that the clothesweren't wearing her.
She was wearing the clothesherself, to the point where she
felt so confident that theclothes weren't wearing her.
She was wearing the clothes andthis other potential client
rushed into the clothing pieceand we got her the entire outfit
(05:34):
.
She puts it on and she says Ican't wear this.
I can't do it Like I can't walkout of the house looking like
this.
And it didn't give her thefeelings or the same result that
it gave my current client.
So that to say the reason thatI have these three pillars is to
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really optimize how we show upin clothing and optimize how we
show up as human beings withoutskipping the very valuable steps
, which is the inner work, and Ijust think it's really
important to know that, like,you can wear whatever you want,
but you really have to want towear it and you have to
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understand the why behind thewant.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That's deep, hmm.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Hmm, that's deep, it's true, because a lot of
times, and especially in thisculture where we're kind of like
conditioned to be consumersthrough social media, through
advertising, through celebrityculture, seeing a celebrity wear
something being like oh my gosh, I want to wear that, I want to
.
You know, I think actuallysomething that's really
interesting to talk about is,especially for me as a man, like
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underwear ads.
Like I look at this, like veryripped man wearing this skimpy
pair of underwear and I'm justlike if I were the underwear,
I'm going to look like that.
And then I buy the underwear, Iput it on and I'm just like,
wow, I look nothing like thatphoto.
That was probably Photoshopped.
We have no idea when was thelast time that model ate
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something, drank any water,because all of the modeling
industry in itself.
So we're encouraged if we buythis, you're going to look this
way, or if you buy this, you'regoing to feel this way, and
really it sets us up forcontinuous failure and
continuous searching for more.
So, again, what I do in myprogramming is I allow my
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clients to understand who theywant to be and who they are
before we even put a piece ofclothing on, because I'm getting
the clothes to support thevision and not the other way
around.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, I remember when I worked with the stylist that
I had on my YouTube channel.
One of the most importantthings that I brought from that
experience was similar to whatyou're talking about.
When we see celebrities or wesee models, even on the websites
(08:09):
we don't I know, I didn'tnotice their body type
necessarily you just say you seesomething and you're like, oh
my gosh, they look amazing inthat.
Or even their skin tone,because I know we all have
different skin tones and certaincolors look better on us than
others, and this is, I guess,more of like the fine details.
(08:32):
But the connection is we don'tspend a lot of time thinking
about how would that actuallylook on me?
I'm looking at this model andsaying they look amazing in it.
Or the underwear model and like,oh my gosh, now I'm going to
look that hot.
And then you put that on and itis very discouraging because
you don't get the result thatyou are hoping for, that you
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were thinking that you would get, and then you're right.
Then we kind of get stuck inthat.
Let me continue consumingrather than taking a pause, and
I like your approach of reallydiving into what am I looking to
showcase and why am I choosing?
(09:17):
So is this like colors, styles,fabrics, what?
What is it really that we'rekind of diving into?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So my you know, my ideal client that I work with is
going to be an entrepreneur, apublic speaker, a creator,
someone who is in the spotlight,who maybe uses social media to
share about their business andalso is very public facing or
client facing, and because ofwith that, I always keeping in
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mind, like you, as someone who'soffering a service, you are
offering a solution to someone'sproblems and we want to show up
as a solution, and we want toshow up as a solution fully
embodied.
So, ultimately, what I do is Iget underneath the desire to
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wear the fancy suit, wear thefancy dress, have the really
expensive handbag as to why doyou think that that is going to
help you be your ideal client'ssolution?
And then we really it's justthis.
Why like and a lot of people,same exact response as you Hmm,
I don't know actually.
Yeah, this is a great.
(10:35):
Wow, you just blew up my entireworld, paul, in that one
statement.
So, if you can relate toHannah's, so, if you can relate
to Hannah's, hmm, a, you're notalone and B, it's a great like,
just start noticing, when youcan't finish that sentence, why
do I think that having thisfancy handbag is going to solve
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my problems?
Well, we know why because ofthe marketing from that, but
like more.
So how is that going to allowme to be the solution to other
people's problems?
Well, we know why.
Because of the marketing fromthat, but like more.
So how is that going to allowme to be the solution to other
people's problems?
If it's going to allow you toshow up more confidently, that
checks a box for me.
If it's going to allow you tonot worry about what other
people are thinking of you andkind of calm that anxiety,
especially if you're new tobeing public facing, that checks
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the box for me and then we canuse that to kind of like ease
the tension and the anxiety.
But we really really really digdeep into why the fear of other
people's opinions gets in theway of us being our most
authentic selves and really ourbiggest mission.
Why the anxiety of steppinginto a room where no one knows
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us to introduce ourselves andour services is so anxiety
provoking for so many of us.
Like that worrying becauseanxiety is just worrying about
things we can't control.
So what are those things thatyou're worried about controlling
through this mask of wardrobingthat might not even align If I
walk into a room and I know thatmy wardrobe.
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I spent $10,000 on it, then noone is going to judge me.
Well, sorry, if you're walkinginto the room and that's your
motive for spending that muchmoney, no one is going to
witness you in your truebrilliance.
That much money, no one isgoing to witness you in your
true brilliance.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
They're just going to be picking up on that energy.
That's such a good point.
I really love that.
I'm so curious how youincorporate human design,
because all of my little humandesign nerd people human design
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nerd people pieces of me arelike oh you, like we could look
at someone's like ego center.
Is their ego center defined orundefined?
Or you know even their well?
Anyway, yeah, I'm I'm socurious because there's so many
ways that I could take it, buthow?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
do you?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
incorporate human design with your clients.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
The easiest way for me to incorporate is with the
authority, with decision-makingis really where we start,
especially if someone doesn'tunderstand their human design.
Clearing the way for how wemake decisions about the clothes
we're going to purchase, whenwe either when we put them on
during a fitting or when we'relooking at photos that I'm
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sending over in a lookbookSacral authorities are going to
be way different than emotionalauthorities.
You know, most of my clientsare generators, just because,
for some reason, that's that'show it comes, so I'm grateful
for that I have.
My husband is a splenicauthority and I don't I don't
dress him, he dresses himselfbecause you know, like we just
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we just allow him to do his ownthing.
He's also projector, so hedoesn't have time.
He doesn't have time for amanifesting generator to try and
boss him around when it comesto dressing.
But when it comes to that, likethe primary thing is like
emotional authorities can getreally, really excited really
quickly and nine times out of 10, if we take that first
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excitement and we ordersomething or we make a decision
there, they're not going to feelthe same as if we look at
something, take the excitement,ride the wave and make the
decision the next day, two dayslater, three days later, like
that, to me, is the sweet spotand it's acknowledging and
giving space for those decisions.
(14:35):
It's encouraging the trustbecause again and I'm sure I'm
preaching to the choir here youknow that if you're trusting
your authority, you really can'tgo wrong, and also it's just
teaching people how to use theirauthority.
So I'm sure you're like, oh,but what about like energy types
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?
And really I think that theenergies and profiles can be
valuable in the way we dress.
But it can get a little bit moremuddy when I have like a
manifesting generator as aclient.
I know that we're not going tobe building a wardrobe that's
going to be a forever wardrobebecause it's always going to
like there's going to be need tobe a pivot.
(15:17):
Like I used to be really allabout bright colors, really
trendy, like street wear.
Now I'm all about like I usedto always have my nails painted
all these different colors.
One day I woke up and I wasjust like no, no, no.
Like I'm in my soft girl eranow, like I'm playing nails like
suits, like maybe a fun shoe orlike accessory, but I'm not
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that same person.
But when it comes to like agenerator if we just follow joy
and the joy factor can beconsistent, because if we find
the things that continuouslybring joy, they won't
necessarily change, especiallyif we're consistently reframing
and reconnecting with that joy.
(15:59):
You know, a suit is a suit is asuit, and one of my clients is a
generator, loves wearingsuiting, and we've probably done
20 suits together and I don't.
It's just like the keeping, likemaybe we started with one
designer and then moved to amade to measure or you know, a
custom suit here, maybe anexclusive colorway, maybe a
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different, unique way to do apinstripe, but it's always going
to be a suit because so, andthen I've, I've yet to.
I think that like with a, withlike a reflector, if you're
dressing a reflector very muchlike chameleon, very much like a
mirror, so it it feels asthough, like the reflectors that
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I know very much, aren'tembodied in their own identity
because they're just here toliterally be mirrors, so they
normally are going to bedressing like the people that
they're surrounding and that, uh, I don't necessarily know if a
reflector would be like havebenefit within, and unless
there's complete, like opencenters, because then it's like
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we can't make a decision so youjust need someone to make the
decisions for you yeah, yeah,yeah, which I mean my sister's a
reflector.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I don't know if I told you that so this would be
interesting to have her listenand then hear her opinion.
I, witnessing her dressingthrough the years, like she's
kind of evolved.
She was more of a tomboy whenshe was younger and you know,
(17:36):
now she wears like a lot morenot that she always wears
dresses, but she'll dress morefemininely sometimes.
But also, as you're saying that, I'm kind of chuckling because
I just give her all of myclothes that I don't want
anymore and that's what shewears.
So yeah, I guess that kind ofmakes sense with the reflector.
(17:57):
What about projectors?
I'm curious.
I know that you said you mostlywork with generators and
mani-gens.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, it just tends to happen that way, because
generators and mani-gens aremore often than not like these
super self-driven entrepreneurswho are looking to be top level,
like projectors, just like wantto be napping all day long and
like be invited.
And with a projector, I seethem really dressing for comfort
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and dressing for ease, becausethe transition from like nap
time to their very small batteryreserve of three hours, which
is pretty much the consistenttimeline I've seen with the
projectors, I know it's justlike it has to be easy,
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comfortable and or it's like Iknow that I'm only wearing it
for an hour and it's going toreally allow to give me energy,
because projectors don't createtheir own energetics.
So it's like if we know that,like, for example, if a
projector loves wearing likebright colors, more than likely
it's because those colorsenergize people in the room and
they can suck that energy rightback in.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, Super interesting.
I think one of the things thatI share all the time about human
design is one of the gifts ofhuman design is that you're so
funny with the, with themanifesting generators, because
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it's true, like I definitelylike to change up my style,
although I will say I'm prettyconsistently just neutrals.
I've been very consistent andneutrals for years now.
But knowing that and then usingthat information, even when
you're purchasing new items ofclothing and when you're like
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what are my staples that I wantto spend a lot of money on, and
then the extra things like howmuch do I want to invest in this
Because I know that it mightnot be something that I wear all
the time or for a long periodof time I can imagine that
there's just so much benefit inlearning these little pieces.
And, of course, going back tothe authority I think you and I
(20:23):
really connected on that when wehad our other conversation of
that.
Really to me, is like the meatand potatoes, like one of the
most, if not the most importantpiece of human design is to
learn your authority and learnhow you make decisions, and that
can be applied into literallyeverything and you're just
proving that, that even how youare going about, um, deciding if
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this is a piece of clothing oror a style tool that you want to
continue to use, or that thatis going to work for you, or
something that you want.
Because we can get very excitedor drawn into the marketing.
No matter what you are, even ifyou're a sacral authority or
you know a reflector that hasthe lunar authority you're we
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all get drawn into that, themarketing tactics, and oh, I
should get this and then I'mgoing to look like that and all
of that.
So, anyway, so I'm very curiousabout the whole.
If we can touch back on theinternal piece.
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I'm curious what, diving intothe why, what are other ways
that we can begin right now thatlisteners that I can begin to
explore?
Like, what are other questionsbesides just why?
Like, why do you want to showup this way?
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Or why are you getting thispurse, and how is that going to
fulfill this you showing up foryour clients?
What are some other questionsthat can continue to help us
dive into the internal-ness ofourselves and how we want?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
to show up externally .
Well, I think that the firstplace to always start is just
noticing.
Noticing that you want to know,like you want to ask these
questions, right, that thequestion that you just asked,
like noticing, if there's likean internal spark like ooh, yeah
, what do I do next, how do Iunlock that next step.
(22:32):
And that's like a lot of peopleskip the noticing part, because
the noticing is the trueinternal validation of, yes, I
want more of this.
Ooh, this feels a little bitoff.
Ooh.
And the thing is is, once whenwe're asleep to it, it doesn't
matter.
But the second you wake up tothe fact that when maybe
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something doesn't go right inyour business or you have an
argument with a partner, you'regoing to some sort of
consumption, whether it's togoing to the store and buying a
new bag, charm, which is you'rea collector, but you're
collecting these things andusing collector as this kind of
mask for the fact that you'rebuying something when you don't
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feel a certain way.
And we're looking for thatinstant dopamine rush and that
hit of like ooh, I got something.
I feel fulfilled, wait, void isstill there.
So it's noticing is the firststep and giving yourself
permission to be okay in thatplace, which is really
uncomfortable.
It's very, very uncomfortableto start noticing and witnessing
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yourself filling voids withconsumption, and that's why what
I do is like this, always likethis, like head-butting, this
duality of just like, yes, Iwant you to purchase new things
and more, and also I want you tosit with what you already have
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and acknowledge that thosethings got you to a certain
place.
So I want to take an example ofan entrepreneur, because that's
my sweet spot, that's who Ilove to work with, because
entrepreneurs are mission-based,service-based.
We're taking risks on ourselvesalready, so why not take a risk
on how we present ourselves tothe world?
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So, for example, if you're anentrepreneur and maybe you're a
digital entrepreneur, so youhave an offering that you share
on social media, maybe you're apublic speaker, maybe you're a
content creator and you'relooking to do brand deals, you
again get to be the solution forthe client, your ideal client's
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problem.
You better be a solution.
How can you embody being thesolution?
So the first question, ofcourse, is what is the solution
that I'm embodying?
Like me, every morning I wakeup and I am the solution.
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I am the solution.
Today, I am the solutionBecause I mean, it feels so
amazing to be someone else'ssolution, like I'm going to
solve someone's problems.
So what's the problem?
How can I be the solution?
I'm the solution.
What does that solution looklike?
What does that solution embody?
It takes the pressure off ifyou take your being out of it,
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right, like, how does thesolution show up?
How does the solution speak?
What type of content does thesolution create?
Speak, what type of contentdoes the solution create?
And it makes it also a loteasier, because then you can
figure out if you're reallyaligned with that answer, if
you're really aligned with beingthe solution.
And that's the mistake that Ithink a lot of people make they
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rush into a solution thatdoesn't feel aligned with who
they are.
And I'm preaching to, I'm likespeaking to myself right now,
especially as a manifestinggenerator.
I feel like we rush intoeverything, but it's all but.
But it's like teaching us Right.
And my, my splenic projectorhusband rolls his eyes every
time.
I'm like I have an idea.
He was just like relax, are yousure that this idea is correct?
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And I was like well, it's notabout being correct, it's about
it's the next iteration ofgetting me to the next place.
I'll get to the place.
Finally, like I'll find, I'llget to the destination
eventually, but it's.
It's going to look like this so,so I'm going to push pause,
because I tend to do this thingwhere I never really answer the
question, so, but I just likespeak.
So, yes, I've, I've said a lot.
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Let's digest it.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I was so there for you and, to be frank, I don't
even remember the question.
I was just like absolutely.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
That's what I do too.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
What I was thinking.
It was like I need to takenotes.
I'm going to go back and listento this episode and take notes
of what is the solution Like?
What is the solution?
I am the solution, first of all.
Love that Like.
Let's just reflect on that.
That's such an empoweringthought to have and such a great
(27:04):
reminder of our why, if you arethe solution to what you're
like, you know as a coach, rightFor myself.
So what solution am I providingto my client?
And then I love that reflectionof then.
Let me sit back and also noticethe answer to that question and
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see if it aligns with me.
Is the solution that mybusiness currently providing?
Is that aligned with who I am?
Is that correct?
What?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I'm saying so far, yeah.
And that's where Image Alchemywas born, because I was strictly
a stylist and I focused onwomen's shoes and accessories
and I was unboxing shoes onsocial media, driving massive
amounts of volume in sales.
And then I'd have the samepeople coming back to me over
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and over again for every day,buying a pair of shoes for me,
and I'm like hold on, the pairyou ordered yesterday hasn't
even arrived yet.
What are we doing?
What are we actually doing?
And then I have the courage andthe bravery to step in and be
like hey, I've got a questionfor you.
What are we hoping these shoesare going to do for you?
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And and like it also takes likea very gentle approach, Like
that's the abridged version, butlike I'm like.
I'm like gently prodding andpoking.
And and then, when I startedexpanding into clothing and
wardrobing, there was this onewoman that I had been working
(28:37):
with for a long time and she wasthe queen of like, sending me a
screenshot of like a celebritywearing something being like I
want that outfit.
And I'd send it to her.
And then she'd be like it's notworking for me.
I'd be like, okay, send it onback and we'll figure it out.
And then one day I was justlike why isn't it working?
Because you sent me a photo andyou look like a bombshell in
(29:00):
that.
So what's going on?
And she said, paul, I feel likeI'm a little girl in my
mother's clothing.
I feel like no one is going totake me seriously wearing this.
Like they're thinking what isshe doing, walking into the room
wearing this?
And I was like, oh, oh.
So there's the self-worth,there's the belonging wound.
(29:23):
The worthiness wound is inthere, because you have the
goods but you don't think thatyou do.
So I said, would you be open toa weekly call?
Let's dissect this, let's getyou to a place where you're
going to feel so amazing wearingthese clothes.
And she said, yeah, let's do it.
And not only was that sohealing for me because it was
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the first time that I closed acoaching client by a text
message and not having to do acoaching discovery call and
everything but also it felt soaligned.
And then, five months later,she's investing in her business,
doing things that she neverthought she would ever do.
She realized that she was theblock, the bottleneck with her
(30:07):
dreams.
She was the one creating allthe chaos and the anxiety in her
life.
Everything else it wasn't anexternal issue at all.
When she thought it was, I waslike look at you, noticing that
you're the one who just createdall that drama.
Like, look at you, next memberof Real Housewives of Beverly
Hills, you know.
And she was like, oh my gosh, Iwould never want to be on that
(30:28):
show.
I was like your life is thatshow because of you.
And she was just like okay,call me out, call me out.
So, okay, no, I'm calling youin with love and gratitude for
your willingness to do this work.
So from there we got to a place,three months in, where I was
like okay, now it's time to sendyou clothes, now it's time to
actually embody the version ofyourself, because you understand
(30:51):
that you are the boss and allthese clothes aren't going to be
purchased in vain.
They're going to be purchasedbecause you actually are ready
to show up as the version ofthis woman who actually wears
the clothes.
And that's the entire reasonthat I could not say no to this
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work, because prior to this, Iwas a self-love coach and I was
focused primarily on that pieceof the life coaching path and it
was always so heartbreaking forme because asking people who
don't love themselves to investin themselves was never an easy.
It was an uphill battle fromday one, and you and I you can
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probably relate that, like innerwork, coaching is the most
rewarding but also the mostchallenging to market, because
it's like no, I'd much ratherbuy the $5,000 handbag that
invest that amount in along-term coaching program,
because something is instant andI don't have to do anything
except press pay and get excitedfor the package to come.
(31:56):
So I merged the two, where I'mjust like by the way, did you
see how much we spent last weekon clothes?
This investment is less thanthat and it's going to help you
feel even more confident wearingthose clothes and they go.
Oh yeah, when you put it thatway, bring me up.
Oh yeah, when you put it thatway, bring me up.
So, but it's also takes a veryembodied, willing human to say,
(32:21):
yeah, I want to actually feelempowered in what I'm wearing.
And I know that I need supportand I'm willing to do the work
and I'm willing to heal my innerchild and play around and do
like that inner work beforeputting on the fancy clothes or
even like it doesn't have to beexpensive.
(32:41):
I work with high level, high networth entrepreneurs who have
the funds.
But if you're like Paul, bananaRepublic is my top of the line
Great, we can do that too.
The line Great, we can do thattoo.
Like there's.
There's nothing saying youcan't show up embodied, because
I wear an ASO suit some dayswhich costs under $300.
(33:03):
And people are like oh, my God,is that Cuccinelli?
And I'm like nope, and myconfidence is, and that's the.
That's the thing.
It doesn't matter the label, itdoesn't matter what you're
wearing.
It's the same way when you'rescrolling and you're like, ooh,
I love that.
Wait, it's H&M.
Why is it H&M?
Oh, it's because of thepositioning, it's because of the
model, it's because of theconfidence, it's because of the
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styling, it's because of all ofthese things and, granted, those
clothes don't make the man.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
The man make the clothes.
I mean, wrap it up, drop themic right there, like that's it.
That's the whole.
We spend so much money onclothes, jewelry, shoes,
whatever it is because we wantmaybe what's in the picture,
whether that is photoshopped, orthe model maybe is actually has
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done the work.
And you know, is we want, wewant the confidence, we want the
embodiment, and we have thisbelief that it's if I have the
thing, then I have theconfidence.
And that is so profound thatit's the other way around.
When we have the confidence, Imean you could arguably show up
(34:28):
in anything and make it lookgood.
And it's not so much about thebrand or whatever else it is.
Yeah, it's about how do I feelin that, which is kind of like a
reverse, like what I keep kindof coming back to is kind of
(34:51):
like what came first, thechicken or the egg?
Right, because it's it's.
My question is can we reverse,engineer this and do it the
other way, asking ourselves whydon't I feel confident in this
coat right now, or what you know?
(35:12):
Whatever it is in this coatright now, or whatever it is
jean jacket right now, can weask ourselves, can we start
there in our wardrobe Like whatare the pieces?
that I don't feel aligned withand don't feel confident in, and
then dissect it that way, ofcourse, why not?
Is it the same?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
outcome.
It's like the Marie Kondomethod.
Does this bring me joy?
Like going through, you know?
Does this bring me joy?
Like going through everythingin wardrobe?
Does this bring me joy?
Yes, no, it's an instant.
Of course, again, with theauthority it's not always
instant, and I think that withthese blanket sacral, like ways
that we're told to do things,that's not it.
So I always, like anyone I workwith, I want to know their
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human design, because it informsme of how to communicate and
work with them.
But outside of that, thisreverse engineering is my
favorite thing to do.
Your goal is to have a privatejet.
Okay, let's reverse engineerthat.
How do we make that happen?
How do we get you in the roomswith the clients who are going
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to pay you to support thatinvestment?
How are we going to get you tofeel embodied enough and
confident enough to know thatyou are worthy of making that
investment?
And continuously calling thatin right, and those are like
scary things.
Because, no, I just want it.
Okay Again, why?
Why do you want it?
Because, right now, at leastfor people who are far away from
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that goal, the why is probablybecause I want to feel the way
that I think it's going to makeme feel by having that private
jet.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
So sorry.
Oh, exactly, I'm picking up myphone because I needed to pull
up your human design, becauseyou just gave me.
Can I share something?
That you may or may not havealready discovered.
We have a manifestation processand you're either a specific
manifester or a non-specificmanifester.
(37:05):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I'm a non-specific, you are a non-specific, so.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I just made this connection.
You keep saying why, why, why,why, why.
And I'm like I've said thisbefore because I did a workshop
on manifesting, on ourmanifestation type, and we're
talking all about so I like toteach a little bit on my podcast
.
So I know you probably knowthis.
But for those that haven'tstudied their manifestation type
(37:31):
, if you're a specificmanifester, you do really well
with specifics.
So, instead of like I want tomake a hundred grand of oh, I'm
sorry, instead of I want to makea lot of money this year, I
want to make a hundred grandthis year.
Or instead of like I just wantto call in new clients this
(37:52):
month, I want to call in threenew clients this month.
That's a specific manifestor.
A non specific manifestor isthe opposite and it's very
focused on the why and thefeeling.
So, instead of I want to callin three new clients this month,
in three new clients this month, it's I want to call in clients
(38:19):
that feel very aligned thatreally here and are so eager to
learn about my specific process,whatever that is or you know,
nonspecific.
Like buying a car I want to.
I want to drive a car that Ifeel very safe and secure in,
rather than I want a NissanRogue, whatever.
And I think that, with all ofthis said, there's such a
(38:42):
balance, because I do agree withyou that we need to dive into
the why and the why behind.
Why do you want three clientsinstead of five new clients?
And so I think the process thatwe can excavate this
information and digest thisinformation is going to look
(39:03):
just a little bit different foreach manifestation type.
And you just, I don't knoweverything that you're saying.
I'm like he's a nonspecificmanifester and then I had to
just double check and make surethat I wasn't, you know,
completely off.
But but why?
And the feeling like fornonspecific?
I'm a specific and sometimes Iwish that I was a nonspecific.
(39:23):
We often wish that we were theopposite.
But the feeling behind why youare calling something in is so
important for the non-specificmanifestors not that it's not
for the specifics, but there'slike just slight differences.
Um, almost, maybe we can be alittle bit more.
(39:44):
I don't know, maybe it's justbecause I'm so like logical and
I get very in my head but yeah,like why do I want three?
Or?
Or you can reverse engineer itLike you want a yacht, okay, so
how many clients.
How much?
How much do you need to bringin a month?
And then, how many clients?
Does that mean a month?
And that's your answer of howmany clients you're bringing in,
(40:05):
versus I just willy nilly, wantthree new clients Anyway.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I don't know if you've ever like dove into that
with that's deep human designand that's like maybe more, not
like expert level, but that'slike at least intermediate level
that we don't have to get into.
But for those of us that likeor maybe are looking for that,
one other thing that might clicklike sometimes it's an energy
(40:33):
type, sometimes it's the profile, sometimes it's the
manifestation type that just isthat like.
Let me get my foot in the door.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, I definitely sometimes wish that I was a
specific manifester because I'llbe like.
I'm like, oh, for example, atthe beginning of this week, like
last minute, I flew from NewYork to LA to meet a client for
a fitting and basically to havedinner with her because she was
having like a challenging timein her life and I was like I
(41:05):
didn't know why, but I was likeI gotta go, like I gotta go.
I was on the plane, I wasbooking my flight and I was like
, why are you spending all thismoney to go across the country
for less than 48 hours to havedinner with someone?
And I was just like, gotta go,gotta do it, gotta go.
And it's like and then, when Iwas there, and I was like
(41:27):
walking on Rodeo, I was sippingmy Air One smoothie which, like,
for some reason, just likechanges my life.
Every time I'm in Air One, I'mjust like, oh, why, why do I?
I love it here so much and I'malways almost about to become a
member, even though, like, Irarely go there.
I'm like, yes, charge me $200so I can save 5% please.
But it's just, it's theembodiment of like, the person,
(41:48):
the version, and five years agoall I wanted was to be the type
of person who could just pick upand go go somewhere, leave like
, fly, you know, have a reasonto travel to New York or LA or
London, and so that why for mewas just that was the desire.
And then I'm sitting and I'mlike, oh, I've made it, that
(42:12):
piece.
So it's giving also, likewithin manifestation and also
just being a human.
I think it's those noticingmoments that are really
important as well, like givingourselves permission to actually
celebrate that we did it andnot just looking for the next
thing.
And that's.
I think that specific and youcorrect me if I'm wrong, but
(42:33):
specific manifestors might be alittle bit better at being like
ooh, I hit the thing because Iwas specific about it and I knew
I wanted it.
The goal is the goal, I made it, whereas non-specific I'm just
like it's a feeling, it's all afeeling, and I do look at that
and it's interesting becausemost of my clients are
(42:54):
non-specific and emotional.
So that's why I also leandeeply into the why and the
feeling, because it's all aboutthe feeling and it's all about
like.
This morning I texted a client.
I was like, how are you feelingabout this?
She was like I don't know and Isaid, okay, that's great, we're
not making any decisions.
Neutral is better than likeelated or like really sad in the
(43:17):
specifics that we're workingthrough right now.
So it's, it's all.
It's really, really fun toincorporate human design in
coaching.
It also, I think, makes iteasier.
You know, it unlocks a lot andhelps us resonate a little bit
more with with not only ourindividuality, but the best way
(43:37):
way to be ourselves and tonavigate.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
And yeah, yeah, I definitely agree and I agree
with you actually I've neverthought about that with the
specifics, um, specific,specific versus non-specific and
like celebrating, but thatdefinitely does make sense,
being able to be like, oh yeah,I got the three, or I got.
You know, I got to fly to LA.
(44:02):
I saw that post I don't know ifit was a story post or an
Instagram.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I think it was story yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Oh, okay, cause I'm going to tell people to go back
and read it.
It was beautiful, but I mean,what a fun reminder to to
continue to notice, notice theplaces in your life where you
are sitting in what you oncewanted to call into your life
and taking that time to be like,yeah, yeah, that was.
That's actually pretty doperight now, proud of myself you
(44:33):
know.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
You know that post was really about taking a chance
on yourself.
And also, you never know, youknow and that's another piece
about being aligned it's it'sthe the client that I was out
there visiting saw a post that Iput on Instagram.
That like tanked.
It was just like no, like noone saw but this one random
(44:54):
person who wasn't following me,and because of that, like we
started having a conversationand connected and now like
they're my ride or die, you know, and and it's it's one of those
things where you just neverknow, you know, post the content
, even though it's cringe, likeshare, because you never know
who you're impacting.
And that's the the biggestblessing about being a creator.
(45:19):
It's the biggest blessing aboutbeing an entrepreneur is the
impact that you have, becausefor me, it's the biggest
blessing about being anentrepreneur is the impact that
you have, because for me, it'sso fulfilling to have that type
of impact.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
And if it's coming from an aligned place, like
often a lot of the posts that Imake, I'm also talking to myself
and I'm posting for myself.
And yes, I am posting itbecause I believe in what I'm
saying and I'm you know, I'mhopeful that it reaches someone
and changes their perspective or, you know, intrigues them.
(45:52):
But if it's coming from analigned place, I think that it's
always.
The answer is always yes, makethat, make that post or share
that, because you don't know whoit's touching and you don't
know who it's going to reach andif it's, if it's just that one
person, you don't I mean, that'sa great example.
You don't know that one person,it could be huge.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
The other thing that I'd say about content creation
and really this whole concept ofbeing the solution.
It can get a littleoverwhelming because it's like I
want to be the solution foreveryone the people that follow
me, the people who don't followme, the people who might see my
post and I think that can getlike we can get a little too big
(46:33):
picture with it.
So my recommendation would bebe the solution for your warm or
hot audience, not your coldaudience.
Focus on the people who alreadyknow you, because I sometimes
get into my head and I'm like oh, if I post this and someone new
sees it, they're not going tounderstand, or, or I'm going to
have to like do this expansivecaption or like have this, like
story highlights that explainseverything about who I am.
(46:56):
Instead of that, like you wantpeople who are following you and
like loving your, you as anentire brand to to be your
client, not necessarily like.
Every once in a while I'll get aperson who's just like oh,
heard you on a podcast, sign up.
But I think a podcast isdifferent, but I've never like.
(47:18):
I saw that one story and Iinstantly signed up because that
story was also promoting mycreator profit blueprint
masterclass, which is happeningnext week, and that was almost
like it was doing my best to tiein.
I'm in a manifesting generatorpivot as well, so it's like I
have all these followers who arefollowing me for unboxing shoes
(47:39):
and I'm pivoting into talkingabout just like, more about
image alchemy, more about beinga creator and how to monetize
the solution that you'reoffering to everyone.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
So, anyway, I love that.
So, speaking of your Instagram,I love it obviously.
So where can people find youand watch your journey and all
of this pivoting unfold, andwhere can people connect with
you?
Speaker 2 (48:11):
So you can find me on Instagram, TikTok at
PaulXLuxury, Because I believethat luxury is a collaboration
and luxury gets to be defined bythe person who is experiencing
it.
So that's why I thought ofmyself as a collaboration with
luxury.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
I love that and of course I will link that down
below so people can follow.
So last question I have one,two three, four,45 different
questions.
You say you seem very good atthe flow and fun, so pick a
number one through five and thiswill be our last question for
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Three three.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
What does living alignment feel like in your body
and feel free to bring in humandesign, or really, just what
does living?
How do you know that you areliving in alignment?
What somatically shows you thatyou're living in alignment?
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I think it's a cocktail of peace and energy,
like electricity, yes, and thatis punctuated by my new puppy,
hazel barking.
So when some I always believethat, like when you hear loud
noises or things are trackingtrying to get you to hone in and
(49:32):
listen, don't.
Don't listen to thedistractions.
Get comfortable with hearingwhat is in front of you.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
I couldn't even hear it, so maybe it was just
listening so hard, or maybe itdidn't.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Or maybe it's just all the noise canceling things I
have going on Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
I mean we would assume that the technology that
we buy works.
Thank you so much, paul.
This was such a funconversation.
There's so many little tidbitsthat I hope really resonated and
I know will resonate, andpieces that I'm going to take.
I always love having people onmy podcast that I'm like, wow, I
got so much like newinformation and inspiration.
(50:11):
So thank you for being soinspiring.
Thank you for showing up asyourself and showing up for your
people in this world in such abeautiful and authentic way, and
I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Thank you so much for having me.
I really enjoyed my time.
Hello, welcome back to the podcast journey.
To well, I realized that Inever actually introduced my
name and I'm like my whole brandis myself.
So my name is Hannah, if thisis your first time listening to
the podcast, and I am joinedtoday with Paul Fishman.
He is a stylist and imagealchemist and I haven't had a
(00:24):
personal stylist on my podcast.
Technically, years ago I had astylist on my YouTube channel,
but this is a really funconversation to have today, paul
, so thank you so much forcoming on.
I'm super excited for ourconversation.
I'm gonna let you introduceyourself.
One of the other things that Iabsolutely love about you is
(00:44):
that you are also into humandesign.
So Paul is a 2-4 sacralmanifesting generator and we're
going to talk all about humandesign and even maybe how we can
integrate that with ourpersonal style.
Like, how would we even do that?
So super excited to chat withyou, paul.
Give your brief introductionwhenever you would like to share
(01:04):
.
There's no right or wrong here,but who is Paul Fishman?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, hannah, thank you so much for having me and
I'm so excited for thisconversation.
Who is Paul Fishman?
Paul Fishman is a multifacetedentrepreneurial soul, here to
empower and inspire anyone whofeels called to be empowered,
(01:29):
inspired by me, to align theirinner mission and values and
just passion with how they showup in the world physically,
emotionally, mentally,spiritually.
And I do that through myfoundational 360 degree holistic
(01:50):
styling program, image Alchemy,which is alchemizing your
internal with your external andusing tools like strategy,
mindset and styling to optimizeyour personal brand and how you
speak before you even say a word.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh, I love that how you speak before you say a word.
I love this conversationalready.
So when we were chatting beforewe hit record a couple, well,
when we kind of connected acouple weeks ago, uh, you shared
that you have these threepillars of your business of
(02:31):
image alchemy, um, style,systems and strategy.
One of the things that I lovethe most about your approach is
really learning and and kind ofdiving into and excavating
what's going on inside and thenusing, I would assume, a system
to transform that internal intookay.
(02:53):
So how am I going to dress, howam I going to accessorize, how
am I going to show up for myselfand, and, I guess, with myself?
So, dive in a little bit tothose three pillars and then I
really want to get into likethat internal and external stuff
.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Sure.
Well, I think that the best wayto share how these pillars
impact a human is to share alittle story about a current
client that I'm working with.
And then there was a potentialclient that came to me because
they had met my current clientand she is so my client.
(03:36):
She is a high powered attorneyand she we've been working
together for over a year, so youhave to imagine that when she
came to me she was ready toup-level her style.
And she came to me because shewas attracted to my energy and
how I present myself on socialmedia and we connected over the
(03:57):
fact that she really loved thecolor pink and she really loved
to dress in suits but didn'twant to be this stuffy lawyer.
So I started kind of diggingdeeper into who she is and we
really got to know like thesystems that she already has in
place for her day-to-day life,and from there I optimized with
(04:22):
a strategy of dressing in a waythat presented her as someone to
take seriously but also allowedher to step into her joy as an
emotional generator.
So we use the human design.
So anyway, long story longer.
She's at an event and she'sreally embodied with who she is
and she's wearing this amazingoutfit and this other person
(04:46):
walks up to her and says I needyour outfit, like I love it so
much.
How do I get it?
And she said let me give youPaul's information.
This person reaches out to meand says, hey, I want to order
this.
And I said, okay, we shouldprobably have a conversation
first, because I want to makesure that you'll be able to hold
the energetics of showing up inthis really bright suit.
(05:10):
Okay, so essentially, what I'mgetting at here is my client.
She's really embodied herselfto the point where she felt so
confident that the clothesweren't wearing her.
She was wearing the clothesherself, to the point where she
felt so confident that theclothes weren't wearing her.
She was wearing the clothes andthis other potential client
rushed into the clothing pieceand we got her the entire outfit
(05:34):
.
She puts it on and she says Ican't wear this.
I can't do it Like I can't walkout of the house looking like
this.
And it didn't give her thefeelings or the same result that
it gave my current client.
So that to say the reason thatI have these three pillars is to
(05:55):
really optimize how we show upin clothing and optimize how we
show up as human beings withoutskipping the very valuable steps
, which is the inner work, and Ijust think it's really
important to know that, like,you can wear whatever you want,
but you really have to want towear it and you have to
(06:16):
understand the why behind thewant.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That's deep, hmm.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Hmm, that's deep, it's true, because a lot of
times, and especially in thisculture where we're kind of like
conditioned to be consumersthrough social media, through
advertising, through celebrityculture, seeing a celebrity wear
something being like oh my gosh, I want to wear that, I want to
.
You know, I think actuallysomething that's really
interesting to talk about is,especially for me as a man, like
(06:47):
underwear ads.
Like I look at this, like veryripped man wearing this skimpy
pair of underwear and I'm justlike if I were the underwear,
I'm going to look like that.
And then I buy the underwear, Iput it on and I'm just like,
wow, I look nothing like thatphoto.
That was probably Photoshopped.
We have no idea when was thelast time that model ate
(07:08):
something, drank any water,because all of the modeling
industry in itself.
So we're encouraged if we buythis, you're going to look this
way, or if you buy this, you'regoing to feel this way, and
really it sets us up forcontinuous failure and
continuous searching for more.
So, again, what I do in myprogramming is I allow my
(07:33):
clients to understand who theywant to be and who they are
before we even put a piece ofclothing on, because I'm getting
the clothes to support thevision and not the other way
around.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, I remember when I worked with the stylist that
I had on my YouTube channel.
One of the most importantthings that I brought from that
experience was similar to whatyou're talking about.
When we see celebrities or wesee models, even on the websites
(08:09):
we don't I know, I didn'tnotice their body type
necessarily you just say you seesomething and you're like, oh
my gosh, they look amazing inthat.
Or even their skin tone,because I know we all have
different skin tones and certaincolors look better on us than
others, and this is, I guess,more of like the fine details.
(08:32):
But the connection is we don'tspend a lot of time thinking
about how would that actuallylook on me?
I'm looking at this model andsaying they look amazing in it.
Or the underwear model and like,oh my gosh, now I'm going to
look that hot.
And then you put that on and itis very discouraging because
you don't get the result thatyou are hoping for, that you
(08:55):
were thinking that you would get, and then you're right.
Then we kind of get stuck inthat.
Let me continue consumingrather than taking a pause, and
I like your approach of reallydiving into what am I looking to
showcase and why am I choosing?
(09:17):
So is this like colors, styles,fabrics, what?
What is it really that we'rekind of diving into?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So my you know, my ideal client that I work with is
going to be an entrepreneur, apublic speaker, a creator,
someone who is in the spotlight,who maybe uses social media to
share about their business andalso is very public facing or
client facing, and because ofwith that, I always keeping in
(09:52):
mind, like you, as someone who'soffering a service, you are
offering a solution to someone'sproblems and we want to show up
as a solution, and we want toshow up as a solution fully
embodied.
So, ultimately, what I do is Iget underneath the desire to
(10:13):
wear the fancy suit, wear thefancy dress, have the really
expensive handbag as to why doyou think that that is going to
help you be your ideal client'ssolution?
And then we really it's justthis.
Why like and a lot of people,same exact response as you Hmm,
I don't know actually.
Yeah, this is a great.
(10:35):
Wow, you just blew up my entireworld, paul, in that one
statement.
So, if you can relate toHannah's, so, if you can relate
to Hannah's, hmm, a, you're notalone and B, it's a great like,
just start noticing, when youcan't finish that sentence, why
do I think that having thisfancy handbag is going to solve
(11:00):
my problems?
Well, we know why because ofthe marketing from that, but
like more.
So how is that going to allowme to be the solution to other
people's problems?
Well, we know why.
Because of the marketing fromthat, but like more.
So how is that going to allowme to be the solution to other
people's problems?
If it's going to allow you toshow up more confidently, that
checks a box for me.
If it's going to allow you tonot worry about what other
people are thinking of you andkind of calm that anxiety,
especially if you're new tobeing public facing, that checks
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the box for me and then we canuse that to kind of like ease
the tension and the anxiety.
But we really really really digdeep into why the fear of other
people's opinions gets in theway of us being our most
authentic selves and really ourbiggest mission.
Why the anxiety of steppinginto a room where no one knows
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us to introduce ourselves andour services is so anxiety
provoking for so many of us.
Like that worrying becauseanxiety is just worrying about
things we can't control.
So what are those things thatyou're worried about controlling
through this mask of wardrobingthat might not even align If I
walk into a room and I know thatmy wardrobe.
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I spent $10,000 on it, then noone is going to judge me.
Well, sorry, if you're walkinginto the room and that's your
motive for spending that muchmoney, no one is going to
witness you in your truebrilliance.
That much money, no one isgoing to witness you in your
true brilliance.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
They're just going to be picking up on that energy.
That's such a good point.
I really love that.
I'm so curious how youincorporate human design,
because all of my little humandesign nerd people human design
(12:49):
nerd people pieces of me arelike oh you, like we could look
at someone's like ego center.
Is their ego center defined orundefined?
Or you know even their well?
Anyway, yeah, I'm I'm socurious because there's so many
ways that I could take it, buthow?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
do you?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
incorporate human design with your clients.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
The easiest way for me to incorporate is with the
authority, with decision-makingis really where we start,
especially if someone doesn'tunderstand their human design.
Clearing the way for how wemake decisions about the clothes
we're going to purchase, whenwe either when we put them on
during a fitting or when we'relooking at photos that I'm
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sending over in a lookbookSacral authorities are going to
be way different than emotionalauthorities.
You know, most of my clientsare generators, just because,
for some reason, that's that'show it comes, so I'm grateful
for that I have.
My husband is a splenicauthority and I don't I don't
dress him, he dresses himselfbecause you know, like we just
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we just allow him to do his ownthing.
He's also projector, so hedoesn't have time.
He doesn't have time for amanifesting generator to try and
boss him around when it comesto dressing.
But when it comes to that, likethe primary thing is like
emotional authorities can getreally, really excited really
quickly and nine times out of 10, if we take that first
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excitement and we ordersomething or we make a decision
there, they're not going to feelthe same as if we look at
something, take the excitement,ride the wave and make the
decision the next day, two dayslater, three days later, like
that, to me, is the sweet spotand it's acknowledging and
giving space for those decisions.
(14:35):
It's encouraging the trustbecause again and I'm sure I'm
preaching to the choir here youknow that if you're trusting
your authority, you really can'tgo wrong, and also it's just
teaching people how to use theirauthority.
So I'm sure you're like, oh,but what about like energy types
(14:57):
?
And really I think that theenergies and profiles can be
valuable in the way we dress.
But it can get a little bit moremuddy when I have like a
manifesting generator as aclient.
I know that we're not going tobe building a wardrobe that's
going to be a forever wardrobebecause it's always going to
like there's going to be need tobe a pivot.
(15:17):
Like I used to be really allabout bright colors, really
trendy, like street wear.
Now I'm all about like I usedto always have my nails painted
all these different colors.
One day I woke up and I wasjust like no, no, no.
Like I'm in my soft girl eranow, like I'm playing nails like
suits, like maybe a fun shoe orlike accessory, but I'm not
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that same person.
But when it comes to like agenerator if we just follow joy
and the joy factor can beconsistent, because if we find
the things that continuouslybring joy, they won't
necessarily change, especiallyif we're consistently reframing
and reconnecting with that joy.
(15:59):
You know, a suit is a suit is asuit, and one of my clients is a
generator, loves wearingsuiting, and we've probably done
20 suits together and I don't.
It's just like the keeping, likemaybe we started with one
designer and then moved to amade to measure or you know, a
custom suit here, maybe anexclusive colorway, maybe a
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different, unique way to do apinstripe, but it's always going
to be a suit because so, andthen I've, I've yet to.
I think that like with a, withlike a reflector, if you're
dressing a reflector very muchlike chameleon, very much like a
mirror, so it it feels asthough, like the reflectors that
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I know very much, aren'tembodied in their own identity
because they're just here toliterally be mirrors, so they
normally are going to bedressing like the people that
they're surrounding and that, uh, I don't necessarily know if a
reflector would be like havebenefit within, and unless
there's complete, like opencenters, because then it's like
(17:06):
we can't make a decision so youjust need someone to make the
decisions for you yeah, yeah,yeah, which I mean my sister's a
reflector.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I don't know if I told you that so this would be
interesting to have her listenand then hear her opinion.
I, witnessing her dressingthrough the years, like she's
kind of evolved.
She was more of a tomboy whenshe was younger and you know,
(17:36):
now she wears like a lot morenot that she always wears
dresses, but she'll dress morefemininely sometimes.
But also, as you're saying that, I'm kind of chuckling because
I just give her all of myclothes that I don't want
anymore and that's what shewears.
So yeah, I guess that kind ofmakes sense with the reflector.
(17:57):
What about projectors?
I'm curious.
I know that you said you mostlywork with generators and
mani-gens.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, it just tends to happen that way, because
generators and mani-gens aremore often than not like these
super self-driven entrepreneurswho are looking to be top level,
like projectors, just like wantto be napping all day long and
like be invited.
And with a projector, I seethem really dressing for comfort
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and dressing for ease, becausethe transition from like nap
time to their very small batteryreserve of three hours, which
is pretty much the consistenttimeline I've seen with the
projectors, I know it's justlike it has to be easy,
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comfortable and or it's like Iknow that I'm only wearing it
for an hour and it's going toreally allow to give me energy,
because projectors don't createtheir own energetics.
So it's like if we know that,like, for example, if a
projector loves wearing likebright colors, more than likely
it's because those colorsenergize people in the room and
they can suck that energy rightback in.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, Super interesting.
I think one of the things thatI share all the time about human
design is one of the gifts ofhuman design is that you're so
funny with the, with themanifesting generators, because
(19:36):
it's true, like I definitelylike to change up my style,
although I will say I'm prettyconsistently just neutrals.
I've been very consistent andneutrals for years now.
But knowing that and then usingthat information, even when
you're purchasing new items ofclothing and when you're like
(20:00):
what are my staples that I wantto spend a lot of money on, and
then the extra things like howmuch do I want to invest in this
Because I know that it mightnot be something that I wear all
the time or for a long periodof time I can imagine that
there's just so much benefit inlearning these little pieces.
And, of course, going back tothe authority I think you and I
(20:23):
really connected on that when wehad our other conversation of
that.
Really to me, is like the meatand potatoes, like one of the
most, if not the most importantpiece of human design is to
learn your authority and learnhow you make decisions, and that
can be applied into literallyeverything and you're just
proving that, that even how youare going about, um, deciding if
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this is a piece of clothing oror a style tool that you want to
continue to use, or that thatis going to work for you, or
something that you want.
Because we can get very excitedor drawn into the marketing.
No matter what you are, even ifyou're a sacral authority or
you know a reflector that hasthe lunar authority you're we
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all get drawn into that, themarketing tactics, and oh, I
should get this and then I'mgoing to look like that and all
of that.
So, anyway, so I'm very curiousabout the whole.
If we can touch back on theinternal piece.
(21:31):
I'm curious what, diving intothe why, what are other ways
that we can begin right now thatlisteners that I can begin to
explore?
Like, what are other questionsbesides just why?
Like, why do you want to showup this way?
(21:53):
Or why are you getting thispurse, and how is that going to
fulfill this you showing up foryour clients?
What are some other questionsthat can continue to help us
dive into the internal-ness ofourselves and how we want?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
to show up externally .
Well, I think that the firstplace to always start is just
noticing.
Noticing that you want to know,like you want to ask these
questions, right, that thequestion that you just asked,
like noticing, if there's likean internal spark like ooh, yeah
, what do I do next, how do Iunlock that next step.
(22:32):
And that's like a lot of peopleskip the noticing part, because
the noticing is the trueinternal validation of, yes, I
want more of this.
Ooh, this feels a little bitoff.
Ooh.
And the thing is is, once whenwe're asleep to it, it doesn't
matter.
But the second you wake up tothe fact that when maybe
(22:55):
something doesn't go right inyour business or you have an
argument with a partner, you'regoing to some sort of
consumption, whether it's togoing to the store and buying a
new bag, charm, which is you'rea collector, but you're
collecting these things andusing collector as this kind of
mask for the fact that you'rebuying something when you don't
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feel a certain way.
And we're looking for thatinstant dopamine rush and that
hit of like ooh, I got something.
I feel fulfilled, wait, void isstill there.
So it's noticing is the firststep and giving yourself
permission to be okay in thatplace, which is really
uncomfortable.
It's very, very uncomfortableto start noticing and witnessing
(23:42):
yourself filling voids withconsumption, and that's why what
I do is like this, always likethis, like head-butting, this
duality of just like, yes, Iwant you to purchase new things
and more, and also I want you tosit with what you already have
(24:04):
and acknowledge that thosethings got you to a certain
place.
So I want to take an example ofan entrepreneur, because that's
my sweet spot, that's who Ilove to work with, because
entrepreneurs are mission-based,service-based.
We're taking risks on ourselvesalready, so why not take a risk
on how we present ourselves tothe world?
(24:24):
So, for example, if you're anentrepreneur and maybe you're a
digital entrepreneur, so youhave an offering that you share
on social media, maybe you're apublic speaker, maybe you're a
content creator and you'relooking to do brand deals, you
again get to be the solution forthe client, your ideal client's
(24:45):
problem.
You better be a solution.
How can you embody being thesolution?
So the first question, ofcourse, is what is the solution
that I'm embodying?
Like me, every morning I wakeup and I am the solution.
(25:05):
I am the solution.
Today, I am the solutionBecause I mean, it feels so
amazing to be someone else'ssolution, like I'm going to
solve someone's problems.
So what's the problem?
How can I be the solution?
I'm the solution.
What does that solution looklike?
What does that solution embody?
It takes the pressure off ifyou take your being out of it,
(25:26):
right, like, how does thesolution show up?
How does the solution speak?
What type of content does thesolution create?
Speak, what type of contentdoes the solution create?
And it makes it also a loteasier, because then you can
figure out if you're reallyaligned with that answer, if
you're really aligned with beingthe solution.
And that's the mistake that Ithink a lot of people make they
(25:46):
rush into a solution thatdoesn't feel aligned with who
they are.
And I'm preaching to, I'm likespeaking to myself right now,
especially as a manifestinggenerator.
I feel like we rush intoeverything, but it's all but.
But it's like teaching us Right.
And my, my splenic projectorhusband rolls his eyes every
time.
I'm like I have an idea.
He was just like relax, are yousure that this idea is correct?
(26:07):
And I was like well, it's notabout being correct, it's about
it's the next iteration ofgetting me to the next place.
I'll get to the place.
Finally, like I'll find, I'llget to the destination
eventually, but it's.
It's going to look like this so,so I'm going to push pause,
because I tend to do this thingwhere I never really answer the
question, so, but I just likespeak.
So, yes, I've, I've said a lot.
(26:31):
Let's digest it.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I was so there for you and, to be frank, I don't
even remember the question.
I was just like absolutely.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
That's what I do too.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
What I was thinking.
It was like I need to takenotes.
I'm going to go back and listento this episode and take notes
of what is the solution Like?
What is the solution?
I am the solution, first of all.
Love that Like.
Let's just reflect on that.
That's such an empoweringthought to have and such a great
(27:04):
reminder of our why, if you arethe solution to what you're
like, you know as a coach, rightFor myself.
So what solution am I providingto my client?
And then I love that reflectionof then.
Let me sit back and also noticethe answer to that question and
(27:25):
see if it aligns with me.
Is the solution that mybusiness currently providing?
Is that aligned with who I am?
Is that correct?
What?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I'm saying so far, yeah.
And that's where Image Alchemywas born, because I was strictly
a stylist and I focused onwomen's shoes and accessories
and I was unboxing shoes onsocial media, driving massive
amounts of volume in sales.
And then I'd have the samepeople coming back to me over
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and over again for every day,buying a pair of shoes for me,
and I'm like hold on, the pairyou ordered yesterday hasn't
even arrived yet.
What are we doing?
What are we actually doing?
And then I have the courage andthe bravery to step in and be
like hey, I've got a questionfor you.
What are we hoping these shoesare going to do for you?
(28:17):
And and like it also takes likea very gentle approach, Like
that's the abridged version, butlike I'm like.
I'm like gently prodding andpoking.
And and then, when I startedexpanding into clothing and
wardrobing, there was this onewoman that I had been working
(28:37):
with for a long time and she wasthe queen of like, sending me a
screenshot of like a celebritywearing something being like I
want that outfit.
And I'd send it to her.
And then she'd be like it's notworking for me.
I'd be like, okay, send it onback and we'll figure it out.
And then one day I was justlike why isn't it working?
Because you sent me a photo andyou look like a bombshell in
(29:00):
that.
So what's going on?
And she said, paul, I feel likeI'm a little girl in my
mother's clothing.
I feel like no one is going totake me seriously wearing this.
Like they're thinking what isshe doing, walking into the room
wearing this?
And I was like, oh, oh.
So there's the self-worth,there's the belonging wound.
(29:23):
The worthiness wound is inthere, because you have the
goods but you don't think thatyou do.
So I said, would you be open toa weekly call?
Let's dissect this, let's getyou to a place where you're
going to feel so amazing wearingthese clothes.
And she said, yeah, let's do it.
And not only was that sohealing for me because it was
(29:45):
the first time that I closed acoaching client by a text
message and not having to do acoaching discovery call and
everything but also it felt soaligned.
And then, five months later,she's investing in her business,
doing things that she neverthought she would ever do.
She realized that she was theblock, the bottleneck with her
(30:07):
dreams.
She was the one creating allthe chaos and the anxiety in her
life.
Everything else it wasn't anexternal issue at all.
When she thought it was, I waslike look at you, noticing that
you're the one who just createdall that drama.
Like, look at you, next memberof Real Housewives of Beverly
Hills, you know.
And she was like, oh my gosh, Iwould never want to be on that
(30:28):
show.
I was like your life is thatshow because of you.
And she was just like okay,call me out, call me out.
So, okay, no, I'm calling youin with love and gratitude for
your willingness to do this work.
So from there we got to a place,three months in, where I was
like okay, now it's time to sendyou clothes, now it's time to
actually embody the version ofyourself, because you understand
(30:51):
that you are the boss and allthese clothes aren't going to be
purchased in vain.
They're going to be purchasedbecause you actually are ready
to show up as the version ofthis woman who actually wears
the clothes.
And that's the entire reasonthat I could not say no to this
(31:11):
work, because prior to this, Iwas a self-love coach and I was
focused primarily on that pieceof the life coaching path and it
was always so heartbreaking forme because asking people who
don't love themselves to investin themselves was never an easy.
It was an uphill battle fromday one, and you and I you can
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probably relate that, like innerwork, coaching is the most
rewarding but also the mostchallenging to market, because
it's like no, I'd much ratherbuy the $5,000 handbag that
invest that amount in along-term coaching program,
because something is instant andI don't have to do anything
except press pay and get excitedfor the package to come.
(31:56):
So I merged the two, where I'mjust like by the way, did you
see how much we spent last weekon clothes?
This investment is less thanthat and it's going to help you
feel even more confident wearingthose clothes and they go.
Oh yeah, when you put it thatway, bring me up.
Oh yeah, when you put it thatway, bring me up.
So, but it's also takes a veryembodied, willing human to say,
(32:21):
yeah, I want to actually feelempowered in what I'm wearing.
And I know that I need supportand I'm willing to do the work
and I'm willing to heal my innerchild and play around and do
like that inner work beforeputting on the fancy clothes or
even like it doesn't have to beexpensive.
(32:41):
I work with high level, high networth entrepreneurs who have
the funds.
But if you're like Paul, bananaRepublic is my top of the line
Great, we can do that too.
The line Great, we can do thattoo.
Like there's.
There's nothing saying youcan't show up embodied, because
I wear an ASO suit some dayswhich costs under $300.
(33:03):
And people are like oh, my God,is that Cuccinelli?
And I'm like nope, and myconfidence is, and that's the.
That's the thing.
It doesn't matter the label, itdoesn't matter what you're
wearing.
It's the same way when you'rescrolling and you're like, ooh,
I love that.
Wait, it's H&M.
Why is it H&M?
Oh, it's because of thepositioning, it's because of the
model, it's because of theconfidence, it's because of the
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styling, it's because of all ofthese things and, granted, those
clothes don't make the man.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
The man make the clothes.
I mean, wrap it up, drop themic right there, like that's it.
That's the whole.
We spend so much money onclothes, jewelry, shoes,
whatever it is because we wantmaybe what's in the picture,
whether that is photoshopped, orthe model maybe is actually has
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done the work.
And you know, is we want, wewant the confidence, we want the
embodiment, and we have thisbelief that it's if I have the
thing, then I have theconfidence.
And that is so profound thatit's the other way around.
When we have the confidence, Imean you could arguably show up
(34:28):
in anything and make it lookgood.
And it's not so much about thebrand or whatever else it is.
Yeah, it's about how do I feelin that, which is kind of like a
reverse, like what I keep kindof coming back to is kind of
(34:51):
like what came first, thechicken or the egg?
Right, because it's it's.
My question is can we reverse,engineer this and do it the
other way, asking ourselves whydon't I feel confident in this
coat right now, or what you know?
(35:12):
Whatever it is in this coatright now, or whatever it is
jean jacket right now, can weask ourselves, can we start
there in our wardrobe Like whatare the pieces?
that I don't feel aligned withand don't feel confident in, and
then dissect it that way, ofcourse, why not?
Is it the same?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
outcome.
It's like the Marie Kondomethod.
Does this bring me joy?
Like going through, you know?
Does this bring me joy?
Like going through everythingin wardrobe?
Does this bring me joy?
Yes, no, it's an instant.
Of course, again, with theauthority it's not always
instant, and I think that withthese blanket sacral, like ways
that we're told to do things,that's not it.
So I always, like anyone I workwith, I want to know their
(35:53):
human design, because it informsme of how to communicate and
work with them.
But outside of that, thisreverse engineering is my
favorite thing to do.
Your goal is to have a privatejet.
Okay, let's reverse engineerthat.
How do we make that happen?
How do we get you in the roomswith the clients who are going
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to pay you to support thatinvestment?
How are we going to get you tofeel embodied enough and
confident enough to know thatyou are worthy of making that
investment?
And continuously calling thatin right, and those are like
scary things.
Because, no, I just want it.
Okay Again, why?
Why do you want it?
Because, right now, at leastfor people who are far away from
(36:34):
that goal, the why is probablybecause I want to feel the way
that I think it's going to makeme feel by having that private
jet.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
So sorry.
Oh, exactly, I'm picking up myphone because I needed to pull
up your human design, becauseyou just gave me.
Can I share something?
That you may or may not havealready discovered.
We have a manifestation processand you're either a specific
manifester or a non-specificmanifester.
(37:05):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I'm a non-specific, you are a non-specific, so.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I just made this connection.
You keep saying why, why, why,why, why.
And I'm like I've said thisbefore because I did a workshop
on manifesting, on ourmanifestation type, and we're
talking all about so I like toteach a little bit on my podcast
.
So I know you probably knowthis.
But for those that haven'tstudied their manifestation type
(37:31):
, if you're a specificmanifester, you do really well
with specifics.
So, instead of like I want tomake a hundred grand of oh, I'm
sorry, instead of I want to makea lot of money this year, I
want to make a hundred grandthis year.
Or instead of like I just wantto call in new clients this
(37:52):
month, I want to call in threenew clients this month.
That's a specific manifestor.
A non specific manifestor isthe opposite and it's very
focused on the why and thefeeling.
So, instead of I want to callin three new clients this month,
in three new clients this month, it's I want to call in clients
(38:19):
that feel very aligned thatreally here and are so eager to
learn about my specific process,whatever that is or you know,
nonspecific.
Like buying a car I want to.
I want to drive a car that Ifeel very safe and secure in,
rather than I want a NissanRogue, whatever.
And I think that, with all ofthis said, there's such a
(38:42):
balance, because I do agree withyou that we need to dive into
the why and the why behind.
Why do you want three clientsinstead of five new clients?
And so I think the process thatwe can excavate this
information and digest thisinformation is going to look
(39:03):
just a little bit different foreach manifestation type.
And you just, I don't knoweverything that you're saying.
I'm like he's a nonspecificmanifester and then I had to
just double check and make surethat I wasn't, you know,
completely off.
But but why?
And the feeling like fornonspecific?
I'm a specific and sometimes Iwish that I was a nonspecific.
(39:23):
We often wish that we were theopposite.
But the feeling behind why youare calling something in is so
important for the non-specificmanifestors not that it's not
for the specifics, but there'slike just slight differences.
Um, almost, maybe we can be alittle bit more.
(39:44):
I don't know, maybe it's justbecause I'm so like logical and
I get very in my head but yeah,like why do I want three?
Or?
Or you can reverse engineer itLike you want a yacht, okay, so
how many clients.
How much?
How much do you need to bringin a month?
And then, how many clients?
Does that mean a month?
And that's your answer of howmany clients you're bringing in,
(40:05):
versus I just willy nilly, wantthree new clients Anyway.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I don't know if you've ever like dove into that
with that's deep human designand that's like maybe more, not
like expert level, but that'slike at least intermediate level
that we don't have to get into.
But for those of us that likeor maybe are looking for that,
one other thing that might clicklike sometimes it's an energy
(40:33):
type, sometimes it's the profile, sometimes it's the
manifestation type that just isthat like.
Let me get my foot in the door.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, I definitely sometimes wish that I was a
specific manifester because I'llbe like.
I'm like, oh, for example, atthe beginning of this week, like
last minute, I flew from NewYork to LA to meet a client for
a fitting and basically to havedinner with her because she was
having like a challenging timein her life and I was like I
(41:05):
didn't know why, but I was likeI gotta go, like I gotta go.
I was on the plane, I wasbooking my flight and I was like
, why are you spending all thismoney to go across the country
for less than 48 hours to havedinner with someone?
And I was just like, gotta go,gotta do it, gotta go.
And it's like and then, when Iwas there, and I was like
(41:27):
walking on Rodeo, I was sippingmy Air One smoothie which, like,
for some reason, just likechanges my life.
Every time I'm in Air One, I'mjust like, oh, why, why do I?
I love it here so much and I'malways almost about to become a
member, even though, like, Irarely go there.
I'm like, yes, charge me $200so I can save 5% please.
But it's just, it's theembodiment of like, the person,
(41:48):
the version, and five years agoall I wanted was to be the type
of person who could just pick upand go go somewhere, leave like
, fly, you know, have a reasonto travel to New York or LA or
London, and so that why for mewas just that was the desire.
And then I'm sitting and I'mlike, oh, I've made it, that
(42:12):
piece.
So it's giving also, likewithin manifestation and also
just being a human.
I think it's those noticingmoments that are really
important as well, like givingourselves permission to actually
celebrate that we did it andnot just looking for the next
thing.
And that's.
I think that specific and youcorrect me if I'm wrong, but
(42:33):
specific manifestors might be alittle bit better at being like
ooh, I hit the thing because Iwas specific about it and I knew
I wanted it.
The goal is the goal, I made it, whereas non-specific I'm just
like it's a feeling, it's all afeeling, and I do look at that
and it's interesting becausemost of my clients are
(42:54):
non-specific and emotional.
So that's why I also leandeeply into the why and the
feeling, because it's all aboutthe feeling and it's all about
like.
This morning I texted a client.
I was like, how are you feelingabout this?
She was like I don't know and Isaid, okay, that's great, we're
not making any decisions.
Neutral is better than likeelated or like really sad in the
(43:17):
specifics that we're workingthrough right now.
So it's, it's all.
It's really, really fun toincorporate human design in
coaching.
It also, I think, makes iteasier.
You know, it unlocks a lot andhelps us resonate a little bit
more with with not only ourindividuality, but the best way
(43:37):
way to be ourselves and tonavigate.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
And yeah, yeah, I definitely agree and I agree
with you actually I've neverthought about that with the
specifics, um, specific,specific versus non-specific and
like celebrating, but thatdefinitely does make sense,
being able to be like, oh yeah,I got the three, or I got.
You know, I got to fly to LA.
(44:02):
I saw that post I don't know ifit was a story post or an
Instagram.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I think it was story yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Oh, okay, cause I'm going to tell people to go back
and read it.
It was beautiful, but I mean,what a fun reminder to to
continue to notice, notice theplaces in your life where you
are sitting in what you oncewanted to call into your life
and taking that time to be like,yeah, yeah, that was.
That's actually pretty doperight now, proud of myself you
(44:33):
know.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
You know that post was really about taking a chance
on yourself.
And also, you never know, youknow and that's another piece
about being aligned it's it'sthe the client that I was out
there visiting saw a post that Iput on Instagram.
That like tanked.
It was just like no, like noone saw but this one random
(44:54):
person who wasn't following me,and because of that, like we
started having a conversationand connected and now like
they're my ride or die, you know, and and it's it's one of those
things where you just neverknow, you know, post the content
, even though it's cringe, likeshare, because you never know
who you're impacting.
And that's the the biggestblessing about being a creator.
(45:19):
It's the biggest blessing aboutbeing an entrepreneur is the
impact that you have, becausefor me, it's the biggest
blessing about being anentrepreneur is the impact that
you have, because for me, it'sso fulfilling to have that type
of impact.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
And if it's coming from an aligned place, like
often a lot of the posts that Imake, I'm also talking to myself
and I'm posting for myself.
And yes, I am posting itbecause I believe in what I'm
saying and I'm you know, I'mhopeful that it reaches someone
and changes their perspective or, you know, intrigues them.
(45:52):
But if it's coming from analigned place, I think that it's
always.
The answer is always yes, makethat, make that post or share
that, because you don't know whoit's touching and you don't
know who it's going to reach andif it's, if it's just that one
person, you don't I mean, that'sa great example.
You don't know that one person,it could be huge.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
The other thing that I'd say about content creation
and really this whole concept ofbeing the solution.
It can get a littleoverwhelming because it's like I
want to be the solution foreveryone the people that follow
me, the people who don't followme, the people who might see my
post and I think that can getlike we can get a little too big
(46:33):
picture with it.
So my recommendation would bebe the solution for your warm or
hot audience, not your coldaudience.
Focus on the people who alreadyknow you, because I sometimes
get into my head and I'm like oh, if I post this and someone new
sees it, they're not going tounderstand, or, or I'm going to
have to like do this expansivecaption or like have this, like
story highlights that explainseverything about who I am.
(46:56):
Instead of that, like you wantpeople who are following you and
like loving your, you as anentire brand to to be your
client, not necessarily like.
Every once in a while I'll get aperson who's just like oh,
heard you on a podcast, sign up.
But I think a podcast isdifferent, but I've never like.
(47:18):
I saw that one story and Iinstantly signed up because that
story was also promoting mycreator profit blueprint
masterclass, which is happeningnext week, and that was almost
like it was doing my best to tiein.
I'm in a manifesting generatorpivot as well, so it's like I
have all these followers who arefollowing me for unboxing shoes
(47:39):
and I'm pivoting into talkingabout just like, more about
image alchemy, more about beinga creator and how to monetize
the solution that you'reoffering to everyone.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
So, anyway, I love that.
So, speaking of your Instagram,I love it obviously.
So where can people find youand watch your journey and all
of this pivoting unfold, andwhere can people connect with
you?
Speaker 2 (48:11):
So you can find me on Instagram, TikTok at
PaulXLuxury, Because I believethat luxury is a collaboration
and luxury gets to be defined bythe person who is experiencing
it.
So that's why I thought ofmyself as a collaboration with
luxury.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
I love that and of course I will link that down
below so people can follow.
So last question I have one,two three, four,45 different
questions.
You say you seem very good atthe flow and fun, so pick a
number one through five and thiswill be our last question for
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Three three.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
What does living alignment feel like in your body
and feel free to bring in humandesign, or really, just what
does living?
How do you know that you areliving in alignment?
What somatically shows you thatyou're living in alignment?
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I think it's a cocktail of peace and energy,
like electricity, yes, and thatis punctuated by my new puppy,
hazel barking.
So when some I always believethat, like when you hear loud
noises or things are trackingtrying to get you to hone in and
(49:32):
listen, don't.
Don't listen to thedistractions.
Get comfortable with hearingwhat is in front of you.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
I couldn't even hear it, so maybe it was just
listening so hard, or maybe itdidn't.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Or maybe it's just all the noise canceling things I
have going on Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
I mean we would assume that the technology that
we buy works.
Thank you so much, paul.
This was such a funconversation.
There's so many little tidbitsthat I hope really resonated and
I know will resonate, andpieces that I'm going to take.
I always love having people onmy podcast that I'm like, wow, I
got so much like newinformation and inspiration.
(50:11):
So thank you for being soinspiring.
Thank you for showing up asyourself and showing up for your
people in this world in such abeautiful and authentic way, and
I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Thank you so much for having me.
I really enjoyed my time.
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