August 20, 2025 • 54 mins
Holistic health coach Meghan Pherrill (1/3 G center Projector) shares her journey from medication dependence to wellness advocate, emphasizing simple, sustainable health practices. She advocates for a personalized approach to nutrition and movement that focuses on listening to your body's signals rather than following complex rules.
• Starting with small, manageable changes rather than complete lifestyle overhauls
• Finding movement practices that excite you, whether yoga, walking, or strength training
• Simplifying nutrition by cutting out processed foods, refined sugars, and seed oils
• Identifying food sensitivities through methodical elimination and reintroduction
• Limiting health information consumption to avoid overwhelm
• Preparing foods in ways that support better digestion and nutrient absorption
• Trusting your intuition when your body signals something isn't working
• Taking ownership of your health journey instead of following trends
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, welcome back to the podcast journey to well.
So today is a fun one.
We did a little podcast swap,so I was on Megan's podcast a
while back and now I'm havingher on my podcast.
So Megan is our guest today.
She's a holistic health coach,yoga and meditation teacher and
a podcast host of balance, yourlife podcast.
(00:24):
I am super excited to have youAnother.
I was actually just.
I just had a podcast recordingthe other day and I always bring
up my guest, human Design, andshe's also a projector and I was
like I have not had projectorson my podcast, it feels like for
months, and now two back toback.
So Megan's a one three G centeror heart center authority
(00:47):
projector and we are going totalk all about holistic health,
all about simple, effective waysthat we can just stay healthy
and keep our bodies and mindsand spirits functioning at 100%.
So, megan, thank you so muchfor coming on.
I will let you introduceyourself, however you would like
(01:07):
to introduce yourself to ouraudience.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Thank you so much and it was so much fun having you
on my podcast.
At the time we were talkingabout all things human design
when you came on, and a fewweekends ago I just finished
doing at a yoga festival.
I did like an intro to humandesign workshop and it was so
much fun.
Yeah, so, like always happy totalk about human design, it's
like such, such, such my thing.
(01:33):
But, as Hannah was saying, myname is Megan Farrell.
I am a certified yoga andmeditation teacher.
Not only do I teach others likestudents, students online in
studio, I also certified otherteachers who are hoping to kind
of bring this gift to otherpeople.
I'm a wellness content creator,a wellness advocate.
(01:55):
I'm really into holistic healthand I am a top Canadian podcast
host.
So that is kind of me summed upin a nutshell.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know how I missed this, that you are
Canadian.
Like I feel like I must havelooked up your human design when
I was on your podcast and I wasjust pulling your chart the
other day and I was like, oh,she was born in Canada.
And then you're saying, youknow you're visiting family.
Like I don't know how I missedthis, or maybe I just forgot it,
but we love that you are here.
Thank you so much for comingand congratulations on your
(02:26):
success of your podcast.
That's huge.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, thank you very much.
It's been a very long up anddown road.
As I'm sure you can relate,I've been doing this for 2018,
so, like seven years, it's beenreally fun.
Starting out, people were likea podcast, what's a podcast?
And now everyone's like, oh,podcasting.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, cool yeah.
And now I feel like everyonewants to do a podcast, but it's
a lot of work, so I definitelyfeel the success of your podcast
, thank you.
So let's talk nutrition, let'stalk holistic health, let's talk
um, even biohacking a littlebit.
(03:09):
Maybe we'll get there.
I don't know so much about that, but one of the things that I
really appreciate about you andyour platform is a lot of what
your heart is in is makingfitness and lifestyle shifts
that are really simple and easy.
The words and the phrases Ialways use is like easily
(03:31):
digestible and and easy to do,because we can get really
overwhelmed with all of therules, right, like all of the
shoulds.
We should be doing this, weshould be doing that, we we
should be sleeping eight hoursand eating a certain amount of
food and in a type of food, andexercising.
So I'm curious to hear a littlebit about your background.
What got you interested in allof this, what were the pain
(03:54):
points of the story along yourjourney?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And and then we'll get into some some tips and
tricks- yeah, thank you forbringing that up, because it's
something that, even being inthe space myself, you know I
often listen to other podcastsand other doctors and experts.
I have them on my show as welland sometimes even I'm like this
is very overwhelming.
There is a lot of informationto digest and sometimes it's
(04:21):
very complicating and you'rejust like let's just keep the
super simple kind of my.
I'm just like let's just keepthe super simple kind of my.
I'm always like let's go backto basics.
What are the basic things thatwe did, you know ancestrally,
and then bring them into themodern world.
And it's honestly, it's ironicthat I teach these stuff, this
stuff, and then I educate otherson it, because I was not that
(04:44):
person growing up.
Like growing up I had.
I was considered a severeasthmatic.
I was diagnosed very young withobsessive compulsive disorder,
depression and anxiety.
My food of choice was chickenfingers and fries and corn.
Oh, my gosh corn I know If youcould get me to eat like carrots
(05:05):
was like, oh, she's eatingcarrots.
Like, well done.
I was just like not that person.
Even nowadays, you know, it'sfunny for me to eat something
like sourdough bread or sproutedtoast and my mom's like all I
could get you to eat was whiteWonder Bread growing up.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Like this is such a 360.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
White Wonder Bread growing up like this is such a
360 um, and for me it reallystarted not to drag it out too
long.
But I really really struggledin in elementary school and high
school with, with my health,and I was put on all these
antidepressants andanti-anxieties.
I went through three differentones before one actually stuck
with me and I was on the brinkof being suicidal, like I.
(05:49):
You know, I was a self cutterand these medications at this
time came into my life where Iabsolutely needed them.
I never really felt alivethough with them and I never
really felt sad anymore.
I just kind of like zombifiedNutrition mindset.
(06:09):
My emotional well-being wasnever brought up.
It was just, you know, here'ssome pills to take and you know,
to each their own, andsometimes there's a really good
time and place for that,especially if someone is
hovering on that edge of beingsuicidal.
But I just, you know, I slept.
I was sleeping all the time.
At the time I was sleeping like10 hours.
(06:33):
I'd come home from school I'dhave like a two hour nap.
I had no social life because itjust revolved around being
tired all the time.
And when could I get a nap inor sleep all the time, and when
could I get a nap in or sleep?
And it wasn't until I met mynow husband.
But my boyfriend at the time andI was 19, turning 20 a lot of
(06:55):
things happened where mygrandfather, who I absolutely
adored, got incredibly sick andhe was dying.
And when he did eventually passaway, I was so emotionally
distraught that I forgot to takemy medication for like three or
four days.
And my boyfriend husband nowwas like you know, megan, he had
(07:16):
been on this exact samemedication for like a month and
he was like absolutely not, thisstuff sucks and took himself
off of it.
I was on it at this point sincegrade five, like a long time.
And so he had said to me youknow, megan, you can do this
your life.
Like, I'm going to be there foryou, we'll get through it
(07:36):
together.
You know, you've already likethree or four days.
It's kind of been out of yoursystem.
Let's just keep going.
And so I did much to mydoctor's absolute horror, who
found out like weeks, maybe evena month later because I stopped
cold turkey.
It's not recommended to do that, yeah no.
It worked for me.
But you know, I experiencedwithdrawals.
(07:59):
I went through more sleepingthan I'd ever was doing
previously, and but it was justevery single day.
It was like okay, that's onemore day under the belt, two
more days under the belt, threemore days, and I just kind of
kept going.
I was right, I was just at apoint in my life where I was
ready to come off of it.
You know, I remember being notthat I was ready at the time to
(08:21):
have kids, but asking my doctorif I want to have kids, like how
does this work as far as thismedication?
And it was kind of just brushedunder the table like oh well,
lots of people are onantidepressants.
And I remember thinking butthat doesn't answer my question
Like what happens to a growingbaby if I'm on this medication?
Again, not in like I'm planningto do this next year.
(08:42):
It was just always in the backof my head of like how is this
going to affect me later on?
And that's never discussed, atleast not with me and a lot of
people.
I know it like it's in themoment type of medication, but
it's not like what's going tohappen in the future with this.
So once I came off mymedication I was just one, I
wasn't napping anymore and I waskind of like, what do I do with
(09:05):
myself?
Like I have all this time nowto like do things and it sounds
so like woo woo, and I don'tconsider myself religious at all
, but an actual little voice inmy head said try yoga.
And I had done yoga when I wasabout 15 or 16, from my mom had
brought me to it and she thought, at the very least it might
(09:27):
help you with your breathing andasthma and controlling how to
you know so you don't have Iwould have asthma attacks very
easily and very quickly.
And she just thought, you know,sometimes this might buy us
time to get you to the hospitalby learning how to breathe
properly.
And I mean, it was in like adingy basement, unfinished
basement, with a bunch ofmiddle-aged women at the time
(09:48):
and they just never vibed withme and I was like, well, like
yoga, okay, I had this crappylittle mat from that time that I
enrolled.
It was a horrible mat, but youknow, I just I threw on the
first 20 minute yoga flow onYouTube, did it?
It kicked my absolute butt likeI.
(10:09):
I've always been smaller, butlike that, I was not healthy, I
was not fit by any means and Iwas like could barely get
through this flow.
And right from there Icommitted to okay, I'm gonna do
this exact video three times aweek until I master it, and then
I'll move on.
And, you know, three daysbecame four days, four days
(10:29):
became five days.
Slowly it became every singleday.
I noticed these changes in mybody where I thought, you know,
maybe the chicken fingers andfries aren't serving me, maybe I
should include some morevegetables.
But it was slow, like it.
It literally started off howcan I add more vegetables into
my diet?
I wasn't jumping to a new dietor anything, it was just let's
(10:52):
get a few more veggies under thebelt, you know, let's maybe try
something that's not a chickenfinger or fry, and and it slowly
just kind of built from there.
And I, you know, I'm 34 now, sothis has been a really long
time, but I feel I'm now at aplace where I'm very into
nutrition, I'm very intooptimizing my health and all of
that stuff.
(11:12):
But it started off really easyand basic.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, well, and thank you for bringing that up,
because I know we typically liketo share our story when we are
at the end, which, if you're notwatching this video, I'm doing
that in quotes because I don'tthink we ever really arrive
anywhere.
We want to arrive somewhere andso we present our story in this
(11:37):
beautiful little package ofarrival that you know, now I'm
this holistic health coach andyou know I can teach you all
about biohacking and all theselifestyle changes, but we all
started somewhere.
That's something that I reallytaught when I started my YouTube
channel, um, because I startedway before I was ready.
(12:00):
And I started and told myself Iknow it's not going to be
perfect, but we're going tostart and we're going to make
those incremental changes.
And same with nutrition.
It can get very overwhelming,and I'm sure I mean you could
speak so much more eloquentlyabout this but it can get so
overwhelming of I need to changeso many things.
But thank you for sharing theexample of I just wanted to
(12:23):
incorporate more vegetables ormaybe try a food that wasn't my
norm of chicken fingers andfries, and then didn't even
worry about the rest at thattime and just kind of focused on
let me do the same yoga video.
I also love that part of yourstory.
Let me just master the one yogavideo, because I've tried to do
(12:44):
that in the past, of like.
Let me just get what was it.
It was, oh shoot.
What was his name?
Travis, travis, some something.
Yeah, travis Elliott, yes, andhe has this flow and like it
kills my shoulders and I waslike I'm going to do this for a
month, and I mean my mine's nota success story.
I don't think I did it for amonth, but it was the thought
(13:07):
that counts.
Yeah so thank you for makingthat distinction of just kind of
starting starting somewhere.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, so let's kind of dive into that.
So I know that a lot of, like Ialready said, a lot of your
journey and what you started waskind of my tribe listening age
(13:48):
range tends to be like latetwenties and the thirties, or
even like 50, 55, 60s.
So, kind of keeping those inmind, where would we start if
we're feeling like you know whatI'm resonating with, I feel
tired all the time, or I havedepression or anxiety, or maybe
I'm on a medication and there'snothing wrong with that, but
(14:10):
where, where would you recommendkind of, hey, let's dive into
this area?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well, I would say first of all, like if any of
this is speaking to you andresonating with you, there's
absolutely a reason why.
And the first thing, like youknow, there's different ways
that we can take this, but thefirst thing I would say is, when
you get a chance to speak toyour doctor, ask them I'm think
I'm ready to come off of mymedication.
What is the protocol for doingthis?
(14:36):
And if you have a doctor who'slike I don't think you're ready
for this, you know there'sthere's more to this find a new,
new doctor, because thereshould be a doctor that's
willing to help you.
Take the steps back and youknow, for me it was very extreme
, but for some people it's gottabe a very gradual thing.
(14:57):
But if you're like, if you knowin your heart of hearts that
you are ready, there's a doctorout there that will absolutely
help you.
That being said, too, you knowyou can also look at if you have
coverage, because I know you'rein the States it's actually the
same in Canada.
So we do have basic health care.
That's covered.
However, things like functionalmedicine and naturopathic
(15:19):
doctors, they are not covered,so they're out of pocket If you
have the luxury of havinginsurance or some extra money,
see if you can get a panel done.
Sometimes, when we come off ofthis medication, our nutrient
levels are all out of whack andthat can make it really hard to
kind of come off this medication.
But let's say that's not evenan option.
(15:39):
Let's say you're like okay, Ihave a doctor's appointment in a
month, I'll ask them.
Then let's start optimizingthings right now.
What do you feel most called to?
And I say that because if Itell you, well, you got to start
with nutrition, and you're likeI really have no desire to
start there, it's not going tobe sustainable, you're not going
to be excited about it.
So if I'm saying things likemovement or exercise, nutrition,
(16:02):
maybe meditation, and one ofthose things is called to you
start there.
Let's say it's movement andyou're like okay, like I feel
like I'm really called tomovement.
What movement seems exciting toyou Is it?
Is it yoga, is it Pilates, isit weight lifting or weight
training?
Or maybe you're like I don'tknow I, who do you look for
inspiration for online?
(16:22):
And what do they do?
And you know, if you'rewatching some of their content,
maybe you're like I don't know I, who do you look for
inspiration for online and whatdo they do and you know if
you're watching some of theircontent, you're like man, it
looks so cool what the thingsthey do in the gym or those cool
yoga poses start there and youdon't have to.
I'm a very big proponent of Ilove community.
Studios are great.
Studios are not always or gyms.
(16:44):
They're not always costeffective for a lot of people.
Throw on a YouTube channel.
That is exactly how I gotstarted.
I also.
I'm that person who willactually work out from home.
I know some people need tophysically go somewhere and do
it.
That's not me.
I'm like it's hot, it's here.
I don't have to think about,like getting in a car or walking
anywhere or talking.
(17:05):
It's like it's here.
I don't have to think aboutlike getting in a car or walking
anywhere, talking, it's like.
It's super simple.
You can start with 10 to 20minutes of a yoga class, too, or
pilates.
It does not have to be thishour-long thing.
Just get yourself.
You know, as I was saying toyou with the travis, elliot, and
you're like.
You know it might not have beeneloquent, but it's the
intention of just like unrollingyour mat or grabbing a pair of
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running shoes.
You could even start withwalking, put on a podcast, put
on music that feels inspiring toyou and just walk around your
block.
If that's, if that's where youstart, that's absolutely amazing
and that's moving in the rightdirection, and then stick with
that thing.
Like I did yoga for years beforeI was like ready to introduce
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something else.
It became Pilates next, but Imean like years, and maybe
you're like after a few weeksyou don't feel like you're
called to it anymore.
Or you're like let's tryPilates and see if that's that's
something different that I'mvibing with.
Try that.
You can do what I did startwith a couple of videos and
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master them.
Or you can, if you're like thatperson who needs something new,
consistently search for acouple of people.
I mean, I have a YouTubechannel when I was first
starting out yoga with Adrian, Iconsider her very beginner
friendly, but she's awesome toget started with and you can
start with there.
There's other people that Ivery much gravitate towards
(18:31):
online for different types ofyoga classes.
But again like if you just seesomebody online and you're like
I really like their flows, orlike they've talked about
somebody, try out who they'rerecommending or what they teach
and see if that vibes with you,and then, on the flip side, if
it's like meditation ornutrition, just start to get
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curious about what you feelcalled to do.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I love that Yoga with Adrienne, totally agree, love
her.
She has a nice variety of flows, which I feel like is nice.
And and I like the exploration,because sometimes I know I've
done this, I've tried a yogavideo and just been like, oh,
that was just not good.
And then you're like, oh, Idon't want to do yoga on YouTube
(19:20):
anymore.
And it was one person.
That doesn't mean that youdon't like all of the videos and
explore.
Like you said, maybe go to thegym and see how that feels, or
go to a studio and see how thatfeels, or do it at home, because
we all have these differentpreferences, but at least me and
we're both one threes, so maybethat's why we're agreeing.
(19:42):
But I like to explore and tryit out, because I always say
like I don't know if I don'tlike something or if I do like
something until I try it, andthat goes for everything food,
workout classes, exercise,people like I don't you know,
like I don't know until we hangout or I don't know until I
(20:03):
experience it.
That's really the three line inhuman design is learning through
that trial and error andstarting where you feel called
is huge because and thank youfor saying that, because I think
we do, especially as humans wedo give away so much of our
(20:26):
power, right Like I've just tellme what to do and tell me what
the right way to get back inshape is, or gain more energy is
, and it doesn't always work forus, and then we think
something's wrong with us andthat's not the case.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, and I would like going off of that too,
without being overwhelmed by amillion different people online.
If there's one person youresonate with online and you
vibe with everything thatthey're saying, follow some of
their advice.
Like, my husband loves GaryBrekka and if Gary Brekka is
talking about something he'slike I'm gonna do it, like you
(21:04):
know, but that works for himwhere he'll just like give it a
try, give it a shot, andsometimes he's like, meh, not
for me, and other times itbecomes like an obsession with
him.
So the online space isabsolutely great, but I, you
know, there you could also belike, but I follow 20 people
online who talk like, get rid ofthem.
Pick one or two people that youresonate with and if they're
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telling you to do a certainthing and you're vibing with
that, great.
If that feels called to you,give that a shot.
Otherwise, yeah, follow, followwhat.
What interests you follow?
What is kind of making youexcited?
You're like, oh, I feel like Icould give that a try.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, how do we, how do we keep from being completely
overwhelmed in a world where wehave so much information?
And nutrition is a really,really tough one for me.
I remember I took I was not anutrition major in college, but
I just took random classes forcredits that I was interested in
and I took a nutrition classand I remember kind of walking
(22:09):
out and I was like this is themost confusing class because
it's like, you know, eat 20grams of protein but you can't
eat this kind of protein at thistime.
And like, eat these vegetablesbut don't eat those.
And I mean it was like so muchcontraindications in my mind of
like and so much information.
And then you go to like socialmedia and you follow
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nutritionists or dietitians and,like you have so many
contrasting opinions.
So how do we keep from beingcompletely overwhelmed and
finding ourselves in that freezeof indecision?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah Well, let me just say like I completely
understand that I am on acrusade right now.
People are hating on vegetablesand I'm like what?
Why vegetables?
Why do we hate vegetables?
You know, and I get throughthose phases to like personally,
I really do like a lot of whatoh my god, I'm just totally
(23:13):
blanking on his name PaulSaladino talks about.
I also fully do not agree witheverything that he talks about
as far as spinach and kale andall this Like Paul spinach is
not going to kill us and allthis like Paul spinach is not
going to kill us, but I and I do.
I like there's bio.
Individuality absolutely playsa huge role in it.
(23:34):
However, there are some verybasic things that we can start
with Not always easy, but one wecan cut out the processed food,
and I know everybody's like.
Okay, I know that, but reallylook at the processed food that
you're eating.
You would probably be surprisedby how much of it is.
You cut that out and you willmake a massive difference in
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your overall health if you cutout the refined sugar.
Again, look at the back of yourlabels of food ingredients.
Sugar is in almost everything.
It is mind-boggling how muchsugar we consume on a daily
basis.
I love a dessert.
I am a dessert girly.
I can find and I make it allthe time.
(24:16):
I have tons of recipes that Ieither post online or I'm, you
know, sharing in the future andstuff of refined sugar-free
desserts and they are incredible, incredible.
I actually can't eat a lot ofdessert now that has sugar
because it's so overwhelming tomy senses because I've cut it
out.
Yeah, so if we absolutely cutout the seed oils which I think
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most doctors and experts wouldagree are pretty bad for our
health they're very inflammatorywe cut out the processed foods,
we cut out the refined sugars,then you can kind of get curious
from there.
I think those are very easy,basic things, but they can also
get that under your foot for abit, because it might take you a
(24:59):
month to really find food thatdoesn't have that stuff.
If you're replacing it, I'm abig believer of just going back
to the whole foods shopping forfruits and vegetables shopping,
for I personally feel like a lotof us would benefit from
animal-based protein.
I am not here to say you haveto have a steak for breakfast
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and dinner and grass-fed beeffor lunch, but I do think we
should be consuming animal-basedprotein.
That being said, you know likethere are some vegan and
vegetarian dishes I do like, butyou have to be mindful as well,
as a lot of this stuff isfilled with fillers I mean, any
food really is.
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But you know I'm really lookingat things like I avoid soy in a
lot of my food.
It's not always easy, but soyis one of those things that it
is an estrogen mimicker and itcan really kind of cause havoc
in our lives and it's ineverything Seed oils.
(26:02):
I get rid of refined sugars andprocessed foods from there.
You know, I think it's againgetting curious, kind of getting
to know yourself.
If you do not have the luxuryof running labs and just seeing
what food allergies and stuffare, you kind of have to do it
yourself and it can be a littlebit time sensitive and consuming
(26:24):
.
But I'm also like what else arewe doing with our time?
Right, like we want to be?
I think most of us want to feelgood most of the time.
So if I'm eating things thatare not making me feel good, I'm
usually going wonder what it isthat's not making me feel 100%
recognizing to that it canchange.
I used to be absolutely finewith dairy.
(26:44):
Post-pregnancy, my body all ofa sudden is like we don't do
dairy anymore.
Dairy is like a problematic forme.
Now I've done enough healingthat if I eat something once in
a while with it, my body candetox it and kind of get rid of
it.
It's just if I consume it allthe time, even if it's small
amounts, but every single dayfor a little while, it in my
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body appears as skin rashes.
So I know that that's usuallyproblematic for me.
You know a lot of peoplestruggle with gluten.
I think you can get veryoverwhelmed by being like I have
to go gluten free, dairy free,all the frees, dairy free, all
(27:29):
the frees.
But truly like tuning into yourbody and as you cut out certain
things like the refined sugarsand stuff, you will kind of eat
something and start to be likethis doesn't make my body feel
so great.
Or maybe I had a really badbowel movement afterwards.
That's usually as silly as itsounds, an indication that
there's a food sensitivity,there's something more going on.
Or you know, if you've gotreally bad gas afterwards or
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bloating and stuff, these areall indications and signs of
like maybe something's not superkosher going on in our stomach.
You can also simplify things asyou're starting out.
You know, keep it super simple,start with fruits and
vegetables and start with a meatand kind of.
You know, maybe it's just ameat bowl of different
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variations of meat bowl for awhile, until you're like okay,
like I'm ready to introducechicken in.
Maybe there's certainproblematic foods that trigger
you or you've thought in thepast are problematic, that
trigger you or you've thought inthe past are problematic.
I'm also not somebody who doesreally well with raw vegetables.
I know that about myselfbecause I would eat like a salad
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and I would have like not thegreatest gas afterwards.
So I'm somebody who reallygravitates, even in this
blistering heat.
I'm that person who will have asoup.
I love bone broths, I lovecooked vegetables.
Those work for me and that issomething that was just
experimented on and learned.
It was like when I had rawvegetables.
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How did my body feel afterwards?
You know I am putting togetherlike this little food diary
which I know people hear thatand they go oh my God, no, but
truly, you know it's supersimple and it's easy to keep
track of.
And then you know you're notjust going through life trying
to guess all the time.
Well, like, am I gluten free?
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Like, can I eat it, can I not?
Can I eat dairy?
Can I not?
You know, some people do verywell with dairy and some people
don't, and it's really justindividualized and kind of you
kind of have to figure it out onyourself just by experimenting
with different foods.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Thank you for bringing that up, because I do
working with some clients andthen just knowing people
personally, having thatconnection of here's what I ate
Now, here's what I'mexperiencing, first of all,
that's.
That's a practice that I don'teven do perfectly, but
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recognizing, because sometimesit's like hours later and then
you don't think about, oh, I haddairy earlier, maybe that's why
my stomach is upset, or ormaybe that's why my, my belly
hurts as I'm going to bed oreating right before bed.
Right, and not really makingthat connection of I ate a big
meal right before bed, I wonderwhy I'm sleeping so poorly and
(30:21):
really learning the, the, thelanguage of our body and how our
body is speaking, so curioushow that journey was for you,
like, how do you stay consistentin that journey?
How have you found success?
And really paying attention?
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Because that, to me, above allof the tips that we could give
of like eat this or do that, oryou know, biohack this way, that
really is the gold is learninghow our body is responding to
things versus, yeah, go eat asteak for a breakfast for the
next week.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I was kind of thrown into this.
So there was a time where Ijust I just intuitively felt
like, oh, dairy doesn't work forme right now, pulled it out,
noticed a huge difference in mylife.
This was years ago.
I introduced it slowly back in,was okay with it, got pregnant.
I went to hell.
But my, my husband, my baby, mytoddler, has some food and when
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we were trying to figure outwhat was going on with him.
So he had some eczema and thedoctors at the time were like
here's some steroid cream, he'sgonna have to be on medication.
And I was like not acceptingthat, absolutely not, that's not
happening to my child.
So I went to a holisticnutritionalist and I knew just
from being in this field thateczema is an autoimmune response
(31:51):
.
Like anything like that is likethere's something going on in
the body and this, like yourbody, doesn't do things for the
hell of doing.
I'm sorry, can I swear on this?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Your body doesn't do anything, for the hell of doing
it.
It doesn't just decide thatit's going to blow or have
eczema or psoriasis or like it.
There's absolutely a reason whythe body is doing it, I believe
because our body is meant toalways be in homeostasis and
it's always trying to get backto neutral and that homeostasis
state state you know what I'mtrying to say You're right, like
(32:23):
like part in your life.
And so I went to this holisticnutritionalist and she's like
let's take a look at some of thefood allergies that he has.
And then from there we took outthe problematic foods wheat,
dairy gluten at the time,because he was so young, it was
a lot of citrus fruits, becausethat can be really hard on a
(32:46):
baby's digestive system, notnecessarily for adults, but she
was like I was nursing at thetime.
So she was like what he does,you've got to do.
So I took all of that stuff outand it was very simple.
It was like a couple ofvegetables that we could have,
some grass fed, grass-fed, uh,beef, she was happy with that.
(33:08):
Or chicken um, pasture-raisedchicken, um, eggs.
Eggs can also be reallyproblematic for people and they
don't necessarily know that.
And everyone online is tellingyou to eat 12 eggs a day.
So you know, if you have acne,try taking out eggs for a bit
and see if that goes away.
So we took out thequote-unquote, those big foods
(33:29):
for a bit and I was like what doI eat?
Like, yeah, all the stuff Ihave now.
I'm a toast girly and what do Ieat now?
And so you know it was, and itwas things like wheat.
Why wheat?
Because wheat is usuallyheavily sprayed with glyphosate
or herbicides and stuff, so it'snot always the food itself,
(33:52):
it's what we've done to it, yeah, and so I took a lot of that
stuff out, I'm not kidding you.
Within I think it was 11 daysexactly, his eczema disappeared
completely and it wild.
I was like I don't know what todo with my life.
I have no idea what to eatanymore.
Um, but like I just started,this is when, like, I had been
(34:16):
mindful about my food at first,but I really started to get.
I had to get really good abouteating at home and making
everything from scratch.
And, like I said, when you lookat a label of something soy too
that was another big thing wetook out of our, my son's, diet,
because soy is really, reallyproblematic.
Again, it is one of those mostheavily sprayed crops across
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North America.
It's in everything.
So, while a small amount mightbe okay for you, it's just it's
like death by a thousand needles, right, like it's.
It's in everything.
Refined sugar too.
Also.
You know, get rid of that.
So a lot of things that I wasforced to do, but it made me.
When you have no choice but todo these things, it really kicks
(34:58):
your butt into gear, and so youknow it was very simple.
I started off with just likecreating these grass fed grass
finished meatballs.
I was given the OK for whiterice.
So you know I would make whiterice and I would soak it for as
long as possibly can.
Again, when you soak thingslike that, it helps to take down
(35:19):
Not that this is always aproblem for people, but you
might have heard the termlectins can be a problem for
people, which is why some peoplehate spinach.
If you cook these things, if yousprout these things, they
usually take away or at leasteliminate a lot of lectin
problems.
So you know that was, if you'regoing to have rice, you need to
soak it for as long as possible, but then I would cook it in
(35:41):
things like bone broth, which isreally gut healing.
I'm a big believer that if youhave an issue, it's probably
because your guts out of whack.
It just is right Like you getyou.
Also, it does not not benefityou to focus on healing your gut
and like reducing inflammationin your body.
So it really started off withgrass fed grass, finish beef,
(36:05):
bone broth, rice, and you knowhe did really well with things
like broccoli, so I would throwthat in.
I try to focus on healthy fatsand fiber.
We need fiber in our lifepeople, we need those vegetables
, we need things to help geteliminated from our body Protein
.
So you know, I do love a sourceof protein on whatever level
(36:29):
you can get it.
And then it was like kind ofthe carbs afterwards.
And again it doesn'tnecessarily have to be carbs
like horrible carbs, but likesweet potatoes are considered to
be a carb, white rice isconsidered to be a carb, and I
stuck with that same meal indifferent variations for a
really long time until I startedto okay, let's, you know, let's
(36:54):
get creative here, let's let'sdo something more like add a
different vegetable in.
And I think if you focus oneliminating those problematic
foods that I was talking about,you will really notice a
difference.
And then you know, youexperiment.
You take four days to a week.
I like to give myself a weekand you pick one food item that
(37:17):
you're going to introduce backinto your diet.
Maybe it's butter, right, likemaybe you start cooking
something into butter and seeinghow it reacts.
You don't do anything else,just butter.
Four to seven days, you willnotice if your body is reacting
to it.
Right, because it's not alwayslike you said.
It's not always an immediateresponse, but sometimes it's
like I ate it in the morning,something happened at nighttime
(37:40):
and like what's happening here.
But if you have just one fooditem that you've introduced back
, you will automatically be likeoh, that's exactly what it is.
Okay.
If it's butter, then maybe it'sprobably likely a dairy
intolerance or sensitivity.
Pull it back out.
And I would say, pull it backout for a week until the
symptoms reside and then you canstart to introduce something
(38:02):
new.
Maybe it's a citrus fruit,maybe it's a piece of sprouted
toast.
Try to avoid the white wonderbread, if you can help it.
If you're going to have toast,try to do like a sprouted
version of it, or sourdough,right, and then introduce that
back in for four to seven days.
See how your body reacts.
If you don't have a reactionwith that within that family,
(38:26):
try to find some more foods thatyou can introduce and see if
you know.
If you don't have a reaction,you're probably like okay, I'm
probably okay with gluten atthis point or wheat at this
point.
You don't have to introduceevery food group from there, but
pick you know three or fourthings that you can introduce
from that food group and seelike, is it a problem for me or
(38:47):
is it not?
It can be a very long, tedious,you know, journey.
I was just thinking I was likeman.
I did this quote unquoteelimination diet with my son
almost a year ago and there'sfoods that we're just getting
around to introducing because,again, he's a toddler.
So I've had to go really,really slow with him.
He can't always say my stomachhurts or like my throat scratchy
(39:10):
, so it's been me just trying tolike, like, watch him for
different you know signs andsymptoms and stuff.
So it's been really slow.
You don't have to go as slow asthat, but sometimes it is super
slow and I'm a big believerthat when we pull these things
out of our diet and give ourbody a chance to heal again, if
you're dairy sensitive and yougo out once in a while and you
(39:33):
have an ice cream, for mostpeople it's not going to be the
end of the world.
They might get a little bit ofa girly stomach, they might not,
but they'll usually bounce backfrom that.
It's just if it's like dairysensitivity, and we're drinking
milk in our coffee every day.
That's going to be problematic.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, and it's really learning that.
And I love the invitation ofpulling things out for a week
and then reintroducing them for,you know, four to seven days,
because it will show up.
And it's so much easier when wepull one thing out because it's
really hard to be like okay, Iate 10 different things today
(40:12):
between you know my meals anddrinks, and now I need to just
magically pinpoint what isaffecting me or aggravating my
body, and we don't always know.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
So, love, that invitation, I remember.
I remember with thenutritionist.
She'd be like so what do youthink the problem?
Food is, and at the time I wasso proud because I thought he
had a very robust diet.
Right, these are all the foodsthat he eats, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, we went through thelist and took things out.
But and look, if you have themoney or the insurance, get a
(40:46):
test done like bypass all ofthis, so you don't have to spend
the time doing this.
But in case that's not anoption for you, this is another
way to do it.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, yeah, well, and thank you.
I mean because there are somany different options.
We have so many options today,which is a real benefit and we
can really make these smallchanges.
Another thing that you broughtup that I just wanted to kind of
close with before our finalquestions is the way in which we
(41:14):
prepare our food.
I mean, that's a whole otherpodcast, to be honest, but with
the with the rice and soakingthe rice or cooking the spinach
or you know, playing around with, I don't really think that my
body handles raw foods as well,which, honestly, is very.
If you ever like study Ayurvedathat's kind of what they say is
is never eat a raw vegetablebecause it takes your body more
(41:36):
effort to process that and it'sharder on your body than eating
cooked fruits and vegetables.
My mom is very into Ayurveda,so they'll like cook their
apples and, you know, cook datesand make all these.
I mean it's that's a whole,that's a whole podcast, but but
play around with it for youwhere you are.
I love that invitation becauseit's not always.
(41:58):
It doesn't always have to be oh, I can't.
I just can't have spinach,right.
Maybe it's the modality inwhich you're consuming the
spinach, or maybe what you'recooking your spinach, and maybe
you can't have the oil thatyou're cooking your spinach in
or the butter, but you could dolike a grass fed butter or a
tallow or ghee, or maybe you do.
(42:19):
Do you know an avocado oil orolive oil or something like that
?
So so many things to just playaround with, and I love the
verbiage that you use of likecuriosity and explore, and
that's obviously a huge part of,like I said, a huge part of the
three line in human design, butit's it's just such a beautiful
(42:39):
invitation to explore with allof our um lifestyle changes.
This, this everything that wekind of talked about with
nutrition, also can be appliedto movement and fitness, which I
love.
Um, before I ask you lastquestion, and we're going to do
a little bit of human design,but is there anything else that
(43:01):
you really feel like?
This is something that I woulddie on this hill to preach, that
I want to make sure thateveryone hears today.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I would just say, like we were saying with the
social media world, it's bothfabulous.
That's how you and I met.
But if you are consumingcontent and you're like I don't
know what I should be eatingbecause this person has told me
a thousand different things,unfollow them.
Like, truly start to limit whoyou're looking at and like find
(43:32):
one, maybe two people that youcan look to for inspiration and
that you resonate with and thatyou vibe with.
You don't have to consume, likeyou know, like the one three in
my mind.
Like I can do endless amountsof research and be like what do
all the different experts haveto say about this?
Yes, and it's just like there'slike a few people that I look to
(43:53):
for inspiration and other thanthat I'd let the noise in the
background go because it itdoesn't affect me.
It doesn't, at least at thispoint in my life.
I'm not resonating with it.
Maybe later on, but right now,just like, don't listen to all
the noise and truly trust yourintuition If something is
niggling at you or saying like,stop following that person.
(44:15):
Or like stop eating this food,trust that.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
You probably know that I oh gosh, what was I
reading?
I think it was a book, and itwas like you know what works for
you and what doesn't.
It's just our minds that try toconvince us that it does that.
Oh, I could still do this, or Ican still be in this
relationship, or I can keepeating this food.
And you actually know that youcan't.
But it's it's our brains, ourminds, trying to logically talk
(44:41):
us out of it.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Or if you're looking for a sign, that is your sign.
Like that's, that's another one, like, if you're like, if I
should do this, give me a sign.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
It's like you know then you should do it and along
those lines of not gettingcaught.
So let's do a little bit ofhuman design at the end.
Um, one of my favorite thingsthat I love doing is just pull
one little piece of my podcastguests uh chart and share it
with them.
So, since you're kind oftalking about having too much
(45:10):
information, informationoverload you, you might not know
this, I don't know, so I'llhave to.
I'll have to see at the end butwe have two energy centers in
our head in our human designchart.
So I talk a lot about energycenters.
Hopefully by now listeners arelike okay, hannah, stop talking
about energy centers, but I'mobsessed with them.
They teach us so much.
(45:31):
So if this is your first timelistening to an episode of mine,
we have these energy centersthroughout our body.
They roughly, they are pulledfrom the chakra system, so
they're going to look kind oflike the chakra system.
So our first energy center isthe crown, just like the crown
(45:52):
chakra, and then right below itwe have a triangle facing down,
pointing down, and that's ourAjna, or our third eye.
Both of yours are open.
Both of them are undefined.
I'm sorry you do have definedgates in them.
But having that and knowingthat, especially that top, that
crown, energy center beingundefined, how we best move
(46:16):
through the world is by gettinginspiration from other people.
So when we have a defined crownand defined Ajna or just a
defined crown, we might not needto pull as much inspiration
from others.
But I have an undefined crownas well and then I have a
defined Ajna.
So getting on social media and,like you said, finding those
(46:39):
people that I really resonatewith and then pulling
information from them, but thenas I'm processing it down, kind
of navigating and you use theword intuition like navigating
what really sits with you andsticks and what resonates and
then what doesn't.
Because with the undefined oropen centers we can get very
(47:01):
overwhelmed and you have a lotof undefined centers.
You only have two definedcenters.
I'm sure you've reallynavigated this in your life
eloquently.
I mean at this point I'm sureit's like pretty eloquent now
and like a second nature, but wecan get very overwhelmed with
all of the outside opinions andall of the energy and all of the
(47:22):
information.
So I love that you kind of gavethat example or that advice of
find a couple people.
Don't allow yourself to justmindlessly scroll like search
nutritionists and then justscroll through all of the abyss
of nutrition information,because we can get super
(47:45):
overwhelmed.
But having that undefined crown, we still need that inspiration
.
We need, like that's actuallyhow I gain a lot of or I used to
.
I don't so much anymore, butespecially in the beginning of
my journey, I used to like findpeople that I really admired in
human design and looked at likehow are they creating reels, how
are they reaching theiraudience?
(48:06):
And then how can I kind of moldthat information and process it
and use it to make it feel veryHannah and very aligned with my
vision, but still getting thatinformation?
So anyway, that's, that's yourhuman design tip.
I'm sure have you heard, haveyou learned, about energy
(48:26):
centers?
I'm sure you talk a lot aboutthem.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, so it's funny as you were speaking.
So the way that I kind of lookat like the head center is like
people who have it defined tendto I'm not saying this is
applicable to every singleperson, depending on your gates
and stuff, but I find thatthey're a little bit more like
set in their ways and like setin their ideas, whereas, like
with mine being undefined, I'vealways been like I get that
(48:50):
perspective, I get that side ofthings too, and you're like I
like I think this way, but thensomebody will counter it or show
me a different way and I'm likeoh, I never thought of it that
way.
That's a great point, andsometimes I will take that
information.
Other times I'm like I stilldon't necessarily agree or vibe
with that, but I'm glad I heardyour perspective on things.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
That's the kind of way that I've looked at it and
like you were saying I'll take acouple of things from different
people and I make it my own.
So I'm glad you kind of likereiterated that, because I'm
like that's exactly what I do.
Yes, for sure.
Oh, love that, love thataffirmation.
So where can people follow upwith you?
(49:32):
Where can people continue tolearn?
I know that you post a lot ofreally great little hacks and
tips and ideas on your socialmedia, so how can people stay in
contact with you?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, thank you so much for that.
So, across all social mediaplatforms TikTok, youtube,
instagram it's balance by MeganM-E-G-H-A-N.
I have a quite a largefollowing on TikTok, but people
mostly will DM me and chat withme on Instagram, which is
totally cool with me.
I have no problem with that.
I have a quite a largefollowing on TikTok, but people
mostly will DM me and chat withme on Instagram, which is
totally cool with me.
I have no problem with that.
I have some YouTube stuff outthere as well, and then my
(50:05):
podcast is just balance yourlife podcast.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Love that.
Last question is if you werestanding on a stage and you had
one minute to share one messagewith the world, what would that
message be?
Okay.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I think it would be.
You are stronger than youbelieve.
You are capable of more thanyou give yourself credit for and
you have a big life to live.
That is your life.
Don't do it for anybody else.
Don't follow what anyone elseis saying or doing online.
Do things because you want toand because we have one shot at
(50:52):
this life.
Make it fun, make it your own,you know.
I would also also say likehealth to me isn't just a trend
or it allows us to optimize ourlife and to do all the things
that we want to do if we'rehealthy.
If we're sick, we don't get theopportunity to do any of that
(51:12):
stuff.
So I hope that was under aminute.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
That's my little spiel hey, some people go way
over a minute, so you're totallyfine.
No, thank you so much.
That's such a beautifulreminder and we have so much
life to live, and how do youwant to choose to live your life
?
I love that.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, yeah, Thank you for coming.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Megan.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Thank you, Hannah.
Hello, welcome back to the podcast journey to well.
So today is a fun one.
We did a little podcast swap,so I was on Megan's podcast a
while back and now I'm havingher on my podcast.
So Megan is our guest today.
She's a holistic health coach,yoga and meditation teacher and
a podcast host of balance, yourlife podcast.
(00:24):
I am super excited to have youAnother.
I was actually just.
I just had a podcast recordingthe other day and I always bring
up my guest, human Design, andshe's also a projector and I was
like I have not had projectorson my podcast, it feels like for
months, and now two back toback.
So Megan's a one three G centeror heart center authority
(00:47):
projector and we are going totalk all about holistic health,
all about simple, effective waysthat we can just stay healthy
and keep our bodies and mindsand spirits functioning at 100%.
So, megan, thank you so muchfor coming on.
I will let you introduceyourself, however you would like
(01:07):
to introduce yourself to ouraudience.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Thank you so much and it was so much fun having you
on my podcast.
At the time we were talkingabout all things human design
when you came on, and a fewweekends ago I just finished
doing at a yoga festival.
I did like an intro to humandesign workshop and it was so
much fun.
Yeah, so, like always happy totalk about human design, it's
like such, such, such my thing.
(01:33):
But, as Hannah was saying, myname is Megan Farrell.
I am a certified yoga andmeditation teacher.
Not only do I teach others likestudents, students online in
studio, I also certified otherteachers who are hoping to kind
of bring this gift to otherpeople.
I'm a wellness content creator,a wellness advocate.
(01:55):
I'm really into holistic healthand I am a top Canadian podcast
host.
So that is kind of me summed upin a nutshell.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know how I missed this, that you are
Canadian.
Like I feel like I must havelooked up your human design when
I was on your podcast and I wasjust pulling your chart the
other day and I was like, oh,she was born in Canada.
And then you're saying, youknow you're visiting family.
Like I don't know how I missedthis, or maybe I just forgot it,
but we love that you are here.
Thank you so much for comingand congratulations on your
(02:26):
success of your podcast.
That's huge.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, thank you very much.
It's been a very long up anddown road.
As I'm sure you can relate,I've been doing this for 2018,
so, like seven years, it's beenreally fun.
Starting out, people were likea podcast, what's a podcast?
And now everyone's like, oh,podcasting.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, cool yeah.
And now I feel like everyonewants to do a podcast, but it's
a lot of work, so I definitelyfeel the success of your podcast
, thank you.
So let's talk nutrition, let'stalk holistic health, let's talk
um, even biohacking a littlebit.
(03:09):
Maybe we'll get there.
I don't know so much about that, but one of the things that I
really appreciate about you andyour platform is a lot of what
your heart is in is makingfitness and lifestyle shifts
that are really simple and easy.
The words and the phrases Ialways use is like easily
(03:31):
digestible and and easy to do,because we can get really
overwhelmed with all of therules, right, like all of the
shoulds.
We should be doing this, weshould be doing that, we we
should be sleeping eight hoursand eating a certain amount of
food and in a type of food, andexercising.
So I'm curious to hear a littlebit about your background.
What got you interested in allof this, what were the pain
(03:54):
points of the story along yourjourney?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And and then we'll get into some some tips and
tricks- yeah, thank you forbringing that up, because it's
something that, even being inthe space myself, you know I
often listen to other podcastsand other doctors and experts.
I have them on my show as welland sometimes even I'm like this
is very overwhelming.
There is a lot of informationto digest and sometimes it's
(04:21):
very complicating and you'rejust like let's just keep the
super simple kind of my.
I'm just like let's just keepthe super simple kind of my.
I'm always like let's go backto basics.
What are the basic things thatwe did, you know ancestrally,
and then bring them into themodern world.
And it's honestly, it's ironicthat I teach these stuff, this
stuff, and then I educate otherson it, because I was not that
(04:44):
person growing up.
Like growing up I had.
I was considered a severeasthmatic.
I was diagnosed very young withobsessive compulsive disorder,
depression and anxiety.
My food of choice was chickenfingers and fries and corn.
Oh, my gosh corn I know If youcould get me to eat like carrots
(05:05):
was like, oh, she's eatingcarrots.
Like, well done.
I was just like not that person.
Even nowadays, you know, it'sfunny for me to eat something
like sourdough bread or sproutedtoast and my mom's like all I
could get you to eat was whiteWonder Bread growing up.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Like this is such a 360.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
White Wonder Bread growing up like this is such a
360 um, and for me it reallystarted not to drag it out too
long.
But I really really struggledin in elementary school and high
school with, with my health,and I was put on all these
antidepressants andanti-anxieties.
I went through three differentones before one actually stuck
with me and I was on the brinkof being suicidal, like I.
(05:49):
You know, I was a self cutterand these medications at this
time came into my life where Iabsolutely needed them.
I never really felt alivethough with them and I never
really felt sad anymore.
I just kind of like zombifiedNutrition mindset.
(06:09):
My emotional well-being wasnever brought up.
It was just, you know, here'ssome pills to take and you know,
to each their own, andsometimes there's a really good
time and place for that,especially if someone is
hovering on that edge of beingsuicidal.
But I just, you know, I slept.
I was sleeping all the time.
At the time I was sleeping like10 hours.
(06:33):
I'd come home from school I'dhave like a two hour nap.
I had no social life because itjust revolved around being
tired all the time.
And when could I get a nap inor sleep all the time, and when
could I get a nap in or sleep?
And it wasn't until I met mynow husband.
But my boyfriend at the time andI was 19, turning 20 a lot of
(06:55):
things happened where mygrandfather, who I absolutely
adored, got incredibly sick andhe was dying.
And when he did eventually passaway, I was so emotionally
distraught that I forgot to takemy medication for like three or
four days.
And my boyfriend husband nowwas like you know, megan, he had
(07:16):
been on this exact samemedication for like a month and
he was like absolutely not, thisstuff sucks and took himself
off of it.
I was on it at this point sincegrade five, like a long time.
And so he had said to me youknow, megan, you can do this
your life.
Like, I'm going to be there foryou, we'll get through it
(07:36):
together.
You know, you've already likethree or four days.
It's kind of been out of yoursystem.
Let's just keep going.
And so I did much to mydoctor's absolute horror, who
found out like weeks, maybe evena month later because I stopped
cold turkey.
It's not recommended to do that, yeah no.
It worked for me.
But you know, I experiencedwithdrawals.
(07:59):
I went through more sleepingthan I'd ever was doing
previously, and but it was justevery single day.
It was like okay, that's onemore day under the belt, two
more days under the belt, threemore days, and I just kind of
kept going.
I was right, I was just at apoint in my life where I was
ready to come off of it.
You know, I remember being notthat I was ready at the time to
(08:21):
have kids, but asking my doctorif I want to have kids, like how
does this work as far as thismedication?
And it was kind of just brushedunder the table like oh well,
lots of people are onantidepressants.
And I remember thinking butthat doesn't answer my question
Like what happens to a growingbaby if I'm on this medication?
Again, not in like I'm planningto do this next year.
(08:42):
It was just always in the backof my head of like how is this
going to affect me later on?
And that's never discussed, atleast not with me and a lot of
people.
I know it like it's in themoment type of medication, but
it's not like what's going tohappen in the future with this.
So once I came off mymedication I was just one, I
wasn't napping anymore and I waskind of like, what do I do with
(09:05):
myself?
Like I have all this time nowto like do things and it sounds
so like woo woo, and I don'tconsider myself religious at all
, but an actual little voice inmy head said try yoga.
And I had done yoga when I wasabout 15 or 16, from my mom had
brought me to it and she thought, at the very least it might
(09:27):
help you with your breathing andasthma and controlling how to
you know so you don't have Iwould have asthma attacks very
easily and very quickly.
And she just thought, you know,sometimes this might buy us
time to get you to the hospitalby learning how to breathe
properly.
And I mean, it was in like adingy basement, unfinished
basement, with a bunch ofmiddle-aged women at the time
(09:48):
and they just never vibed withme and I was like, well, like
yoga, okay, I had this crappylittle mat from that time that I
enrolled.
It was a horrible mat, but youknow, I just I threw on the
first 20 minute yoga flow onYouTube, did it?
It kicked my absolute butt likeI.
(10:09):
I've always been smaller, butlike that, I was not healthy, I
was not fit by any means and Iwas like could barely get
through this flow.
And right from there Icommitted to okay, I'm gonna do
this exact video three times aweek until I master it, and then
I'll move on.
And, you know, three daysbecame four days, four days
(10:29):
became five days.
Slowly it became every singleday.
I noticed these changes in mybody where I thought, you know,
maybe the chicken fingers andfries aren't serving me, maybe I
should include some morevegetables.
But it was slow, like it.
It literally started off howcan I add more vegetables into
my diet?
I wasn't jumping to a new dietor anything, it was just let's
(10:52):
get a few more veggies under thebelt, you know, let's maybe try
something that's not a chickenfinger or fry, and and it slowly
just kind of built from there.
And I, you know, I'm 34 now, sothis has been a really long
time, but I feel I'm now at aplace where I'm very into
nutrition, I'm very intooptimizing my health and all of
that stuff.
(11:12):
But it started off really easyand basic.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, well, and thank you for bringing that up,
because I know we typically liketo share our story when we are
at the end, which, if you're notwatching this video, I'm doing
that in quotes because I don'tthink we ever really arrive
anywhere.
We want to arrive somewhere andso we present our story in this
(11:37):
beautiful little package ofarrival that you know, now I'm
this holistic health coach andyou know I can teach you all
about biohacking and all theselifestyle changes, but we all
started somewhere.
That's something that I reallytaught when I started my YouTube
channel, um, because I startedway before I was ready.
(12:00):
And I started and told myself Iknow it's not going to be
perfect, but we're going tostart and we're going to make
those incremental changes.
And same with nutrition.
It can get very overwhelming,and I'm sure I mean you could
speak so much more eloquentlyabout this but it can get so
overwhelming of I need to changeso many things.
But thank you for sharing theexample of I just wanted to
(12:23):
incorporate more vegetables ormaybe try a food that wasn't my
norm of chicken fingers andfries, and then didn't even
worry about the rest at thattime and just kind of focused on
let me do the same yoga video.
I also love that part of yourstory.
Let me just master the one yogavideo, because I've tried to do
(12:44):
that in the past, of like.
Let me just get what was it.
It was, oh shoot.
What was his name?
Travis, travis, some something.
Yeah, travis Elliott, yes, andhe has this flow and like it
kills my shoulders and I waslike I'm going to do this for a
month, and I mean my mine's nota success story.
I don't think I did it for amonth, but it was the thought
(13:07):
that counts.
Yeah so thank you for makingthat distinction of just kind of
starting starting somewhere.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, so let's kind of dive into that.
So I know that a lot of, like Ialready said, a lot of your
journey and what you started waskind of my tribe listening age
(13:48):
range tends to be like latetwenties and the thirties, or
even like 50, 55, 60s.
So, kind of keeping those inmind, where would we start if
we're feeling like you know whatI'm resonating with, I feel
tired all the time, or I havedepression or anxiety, or maybe
I'm on a medication and there'snothing wrong with that, but
(14:10):
where, where would you recommendkind of, hey, let's dive into
this area?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well, I would say first of all, like if any of
this is speaking to you andresonating with you, there's
absolutely a reason why.
And the first thing, like youknow, there's different ways
that we can take this, but thefirst thing I would say is, when
you get a chance to speak toyour doctor, ask them I'm think
I'm ready to come off of mymedication.
What is the protocol for doingthis?
(14:36):
And if you have a doctor who'slike I don't think you're ready
for this, you know there'sthere's more to this find a new,
new doctor, because thereshould be a doctor that's
willing to help you.
Take the steps back and youknow, for me it was very extreme
, but for some people it's gottabe a very gradual thing.
(14:57):
But if you're like, if you knowin your heart of hearts that
you are ready, there's a doctorout there that will absolutely
help you.
That being said, too, you knowyou can also look at if you have
coverage, because I know you'rein the States it's actually the
same in Canada.
So we do have basic health care.
That's covered.
However, things like functionalmedicine and naturopathic
(15:19):
doctors, they are not covered,so they're out of pocket If you
have the luxury of havinginsurance or some extra money,
see if you can get a panel done.
Sometimes, when we come off ofthis medication, our nutrient
levels are all out of whack andthat can make it really hard to
kind of come off this medication.
But let's say that's not evenan option.
(15:39):
Let's say you're like okay, Ihave a doctor's appointment in a
month, I'll ask them.
Then let's start optimizingthings right now.
What do you feel most called to?
And I say that because if Itell you, well, you got to start
with nutrition, and you're likeI really have no desire to
start there, it's not going tobe sustainable, you're not going
to be excited about it.
So if I'm saying things likemovement or exercise, nutrition,
(16:02):
maybe meditation, and one ofthose things is called to you
start there.
Let's say it's movement andyou're like okay, like I feel
like I'm really called tomovement.
What movement seems exciting toyou Is it?
Is it yoga, is it Pilates, isit weight lifting or weight
training?
Or maybe you're like I don'tknow I, who do you look for
inspiration for online?
(16:22):
And what do they do?
And you know, if you'rewatching some of their content,
maybe you're like I don't know I, who do you look for
inspiration for online and whatdo they do and you know if
you're watching some of theircontent, you're like man, it
looks so cool what the thingsthey do in the gym or those cool
yoga poses start there and youdon't have to.
I'm a very big proponent of Ilove community.
Studios are great.
Studios are not always or gyms.
(16:44):
They're not always costeffective for a lot of people.
Throw on a YouTube channel.
That is exactly how I gotstarted.
I also.
I'm that person who willactually work out from home.
I know some people need tophysically go somewhere and do
it.
That's not me.
I'm like it's hot, it's here.
I don't have to think about,like getting in a car or walking
anywhere or talking.
(17:05):
It's like it's here.
I don't have to think aboutlike getting in a car or walking
anywhere, talking, it's like.
It's super simple.
You can start with 10 to 20minutes of a yoga class, too, or
pilates.
It does not have to be thishour-long thing.
Just get yourself.
You know, as I was saying toyou with the travis, elliot, and
you're like.
You know it might not have beeneloquent, but it's the
intention of just like unrollingyour mat or grabbing a pair of
(17:27):
running shoes.
You could even start withwalking, put on a podcast, put
on music that feels inspiring toyou and just walk around your
block.
If that's, if that's where youstart, that's absolutely amazing
and that's moving in the rightdirection, and then stick with
that thing.
Like I did yoga for years beforeI was like ready to introduce
(17:48):
something else.
It became Pilates next, but Imean like years, and maybe
you're like after a few weeksyou don't feel like you're
called to it anymore.
Or you're like let's tryPilates and see if that's that's
something different that I'mvibing with.
Try that.
You can do what I did startwith a couple of videos and
(18:09):
master them.
Or you can, if you're like thatperson who needs something new,
consistently search for acouple of people.
I mean, I have a YouTubechannel when I was first
starting out yoga with Adrian, Iconsider her very beginner
friendly, but she's awesome toget started with and you can
start with there.
There's other people that Ivery much gravitate towards
(18:31):
online for different types ofyoga classes.
But again like if you just seesomebody online and you're like
I really like their flows, orlike they've talked about
somebody, try out who they'rerecommending or what they teach
and see if that vibes with you,and then, on the flip side, if
it's like meditation ornutrition, just start to get
(18:52):
curious about what you feelcalled to do.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I love that Yoga with Adrienne, totally agree, love
her.
She has a nice variety of flows, which I feel like is nice.
And and I like the exploration,because sometimes I know I've
done this, I've tried a yogavideo and just been like, oh,
that was just not good.
And then you're like, oh, Idon't want to do yoga on YouTube
(19:20):
anymore.
And it was one person.
That doesn't mean that youdon't like all of the videos and
explore.
Like you said, maybe go to thegym and see how that feels, or
go to a studio and see how thatfeels, or do it at home, because
we all have these differentpreferences, but at least me and
we're both one threes, so maybethat's why we're agreeing.
(19:42):
But I like to explore and tryit out, because I always say
like I don't know if I don'tlike something or if I do like
something until I try it, andthat goes for everything food,
workout classes, exercise,people like I don't you know,
like I don't know until we hangout or I don't know until I
(20:03):
experience it.
That's really the three line inhuman design is learning through
that trial and error andstarting where you feel called
is huge because and thank youfor saying that, because I think
we do, especially as humans wedo give away so much of our
(20:26):
power, right Like I've just tellme what to do and tell me what
the right way to get back inshape is, or gain more energy is
, and it doesn't always work forus, and then we think
something's wrong with us andthat's not the case.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, and I would like going off of that too,
without being overwhelmed by amillion different people online.
If there's one person youresonate with online and you
vibe with everything thatthey're saying, follow some of
their advice.
Like, my husband loves GaryBrekka and if Gary Brekka is
talking about something he'slike I'm gonna do it, like you
(21:04):
know, but that works for himwhere he'll just like give it a
try, give it a shot, andsometimes he's like, meh, not
for me, and other times itbecomes like an obsession with
him.
So the online space isabsolutely great, but I, you
know, there you could also belike, but I follow 20 people
online who talk like, get rid ofthem.
Pick one or two people that youresonate with and if they're
(21:27):
telling you to do a certainthing and you're vibing with
that, great.
If that feels called to you,give that a shot.
Otherwise, yeah, follow, followwhat.
What interests you follow?
What is kind of making youexcited?
You're like, oh, I feel like Icould give that a try.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, how do we, how do we keep from being completely
overwhelmed in a world where wehave so much information?
And nutrition is a really,really tough one for me.
I remember I took I was not anutrition major in college, but
I just took random classes forcredits that I was interested in
and I took a nutrition classand I remember kind of walking
(22:09):
out and I was like this is themost confusing class because
it's like, you know, eat 20grams of protein but you can't
eat this kind of protein at thistime.
And like, eat these vegetablesbut don't eat those.
And I mean it was like so muchcontraindications in my mind of
like and so much information.
And then you go to like socialmedia and you follow
(22:32):
nutritionists or dietitians and,like you have so many
contrasting opinions.
So how do we keep from beingcompletely overwhelmed and
finding ourselves in that freezeof indecision?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah Well, let me just say like I completely
understand that I am on acrusade right now.
People are hating on vegetablesand I'm like what?
Why vegetables?
Why do we hate vegetables?
You know, and I get throughthose phases to like personally,
I really do like a lot of whatoh my god, I'm just totally
(23:13):
blanking on his name PaulSaladino talks about.
I also fully do not agree witheverything that he talks about
as far as spinach and kale andall this Like Paul spinach is
not going to kill us and allthis like Paul spinach is not
going to kill us, but I and I do.
I like there's bio.
Individuality absolutely playsa huge role in it.
(23:34):
However, there are some verybasic things that we can start
with Not always easy, but one wecan cut out the processed food,
and I know everybody's like.
Okay, I know that, but reallylook at the processed food that
you're eating.
You would probably be surprisedby how much of it is.
You cut that out and you willmake a massive difference in
(23:55):
your overall health if you cutout the refined sugar.
Again, look at the back of yourlabels of food ingredients.
Sugar is in almost everything.
It is mind-boggling how muchsugar we consume on a daily
basis.
I love a dessert.
I am a dessert girly.
I can find and I make it allthe time.
(24:16):
I have tons of recipes that Ieither post online or I'm, you
know, sharing in the future andstuff of refined sugar-free
desserts and they are incredible, incredible.
I actually can't eat a lot ofdessert now that has sugar
because it's so overwhelming tomy senses because I've cut it
out.
Yeah, so if we absolutely cutout the seed oils which I think
(24:39):
most doctors and experts wouldagree are pretty bad for our
health they're very inflammatorywe cut out the processed foods,
we cut out the refined sugars,then you can kind of get curious
from there.
I think those are very easy,basic things, but they can also
get that under your foot for abit, because it might take you a
(24:59):
month to really find food thatdoesn't have that stuff.
If you're replacing it, I'm abig believer of just going back
to the whole foods shopping forfruits and vegetables shopping,
for I personally feel like a lotof us would benefit from
animal-based protein.
I am not here to say you haveto have a steak for breakfast
(25:21):
and dinner and grass-fed beeffor lunch, but I do think we
should be consuming animal-basedprotein.
That being said, you know likethere are some vegan and
vegetarian dishes I do like, butyou have to be mindful as well,
as a lot of this stuff isfilled with fillers I mean, any
food really is.
(25:42):
But you know I'm really lookingat things like I avoid soy in a
lot of my food.
It's not always easy, but soyis one of those things that it
is an estrogen mimicker and itcan really kind of cause havoc
in our lives and it's ineverything Seed oils.
(26:02):
I get rid of refined sugars andprocessed foods from there.
You know, I think it's againgetting curious, kind of getting
to know yourself.
If you do not have the luxuryof running labs and just seeing
what food allergies and stuffare, you kind of have to do it
yourself and it can be a littlebit time sensitive and consuming
(26:24):
.
But I'm also like what else arewe doing with our time?
Right, like we want to be?
I think most of us want to feelgood most of the time.
So if I'm eating things thatare not making me feel good, I'm
usually going wonder what it isthat's not making me feel 100%
recognizing to that it canchange.
I used to be absolutely finewith dairy.
(26:44):
Post-pregnancy, my body all ofa sudden is like we don't do
dairy anymore.
Dairy is like a problematic forme.
Now I've done enough healingthat if I eat something once in
a while with it, my body candetox it and kind of get rid of
it.
It's just if I consume it allthe time, even if it's small
amounts, but every single dayfor a little while, it in my
(27:07):
body appears as skin rashes.
So I know that that's usuallyproblematic for me.
You know a lot of peoplestruggle with gluten.
I think you can get veryoverwhelmed by being like I have
to go gluten free, dairy free,all the frees, dairy free, all
(27:29):
the frees.
But truly like tuning into yourbody and as you cut out certain
things like the refined sugarsand stuff, you will kind of eat
something and start to be likethis doesn't make my body feel
so great.
Or maybe I had a really badbowel movement afterwards.
That's usually as silly as itsounds, an indication that
there's a food sensitivity,there's something more going on.
Or you know, if you've gotreally bad gas afterwards or
(27:52):
bloating and stuff, these areall indications and signs of
like maybe something's not superkosher going on in our stomach.
You can also simplify things asyou're starting out.
You know, keep it super simple,start with fruits and
vegetables and start with a meatand kind of.
You know, maybe it's just ameat bowl of different
(28:13):
variations of meat bowl for awhile, until you're like okay,
like I'm ready to introducechicken in.
Maybe there's certainproblematic foods that trigger
you or you've thought in thepast are problematic, that
trigger you or you've thought inthe past are problematic.
I'm also not somebody who doesreally well with raw vegetables.
I know that about myselfbecause I would eat like a salad
(28:37):
and I would have like not thegreatest gas afterwards.
So I'm somebody who reallygravitates, even in this
blistering heat.
I'm that person who will have asoup.
I love bone broths, I lovecooked vegetables.
Those work for me and that issomething that was just
experimented on and learned.
It was like when I had rawvegetables.
(28:57):
How did my body feel afterwards?
You know I am putting togetherlike this little food diary
which I know people hear thatand they go oh my God, no, but
truly, you know it's supersimple and it's easy to keep
track of.
And then you know you're notjust going through life trying
to guess all the time.
Well, like, am I gluten free?
(29:19):
Like, can I eat it, can I not?
Can I eat dairy?
Can I not?
You know, some people do verywell with dairy and some people
don't, and it's really justindividualized and kind of you
kind of have to figure it out onyourself just by experimenting
with different foods.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Thank you for bringing that up, because I do
working with some clients andthen just knowing people
personally, having thatconnection of here's what I ate
Now, here's what I'mexperiencing, first of all,
that's.
That's a practice that I don'teven do perfectly, but
(29:58):
recognizing, because sometimesit's like hours later and then
you don't think about, oh, I haddairy earlier, maybe that's why
my stomach is upset, or ormaybe that's why my, my belly
hurts as I'm going to bed oreating right before bed.
Right, and not really makingthat connection of I ate a big
meal right before bed, I wonderwhy I'm sleeping so poorly and
(30:21):
really learning the, the, thelanguage of our body and how our
body is speaking, so curioushow that journey was for you,
like, how do you stay consistentin that journey?
How have you found success?
And really paying attention?
(30:41):
Because that, to me, above allof the tips that we could give
of like eat this or do that, oryou know, biohack this way, that
really is the gold is learninghow our body is responding to
things versus, yeah, go eat asteak for a breakfast for the
next week.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I was kind of thrown into this.
So there was a time where Ijust I just intuitively felt
like, oh, dairy doesn't work forme right now, pulled it out,
noticed a huge difference in mylife.
This was years ago.
I introduced it slowly back in,was okay with it, got pregnant.
I went to hell.
But my, my husband, my baby, mytoddler, has some food and when
(31:28):
we were trying to figure outwhat was going on with him.
So he had some eczema and thedoctors at the time were like
here's some steroid cream, he'sgonna have to be on medication.
And I was like not acceptingthat, absolutely not, that's not
happening to my child.
So I went to a holisticnutritionalist and I knew just
from being in this field thateczema is an autoimmune response
(31:51):
.
Like anything like that is likethere's something going on in
the body and this, like yourbody, doesn't do things for the
hell of doing.
I'm sorry, can I swear on this?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Your body doesn't do anything, for the hell of doing
it.
It doesn't just decide thatit's going to blow or have
eczema or psoriasis or like it.
There's absolutely a reason whythe body is doing it, I believe
because our body is meant toalways be in homeostasis and
it's always trying to get backto neutral and that homeostasis
state state you know what I'mtrying to say You're right, like
(32:23):
like part in your life.
And so I went to this holisticnutritionalist and she's like
let's take a look at some of thefood allergies that he has.
And then from there we took outthe problematic foods wheat,
dairy gluten at the time,because he was so young, it was
a lot of citrus fruits, becausethat can be really hard on a
(32:46):
baby's digestive system, notnecessarily for adults, but she
was like I was nursing at thetime.
So she was like what he does,you've got to do.
So I took all of that stuff outand it was very simple.
It was like a couple ofvegetables that we could have,
some grass fed, grass-fed, uh,beef, she was happy with that.
(33:08):
Or chicken um, pasture-raisedchicken, um, eggs.
Eggs can also be reallyproblematic for people and they
don't necessarily know that.
And everyone online is tellingyou to eat 12 eggs a day.
So you know, if you have acne,try taking out eggs for a bit
and see if that goes away.
So we took out thequote-unquote, those big foods
(33:29):
for a bit and I was like what doI eat?
Like, yeah, all the stuff Ihave now.
I'm a toast girly and what do Ieat now?
And so you know it was, and itwas things like wheat.
Why wheat?
Because wheat is usuallyheavily sprayed with glyphosate
or herbicides and stuff, so it'snot always the food itself,
(33:52):
it's what we've done to it, yeah, and so I took a lot of that
stuff out, I'm not kidding you.
Within I think it was 11 daysexactly, his eczema disappeared
completely and it wild.
I was like I don't know what todo with my life.
I have no idea what to eatanymore.
Um, but like I just started,this is when, like, I had been
(34:16):
mindful about my food at first,but I really started to get.
I had to get really good abouteating at home and making
everything from scratch.
And, like I said, when you lookat a label of something soy too
that was another big thing wetook out of our, my son's, diet,
because soy is really, reallyproblematic.
Again, it is one of those mostheavily sprayed crops across
(34:36):
North America.
It's in everything.
So, while a small amount mightbe okay for you, it's just it's
like death by a thousand needles, right, like it's.
It's in everything.
Refined sugar too.
Also.
You know, get rid of that.
So a lot of things that I wasforced to do, but it made me.
When you have no choice but todo these things, it really kicks
(34:58):
your butt into gear, and so youknow it was very simple.
I started off with just likecreating these grass fed grass
finished meatballs.
I was given the OK for whiterice.
So you know I would make whiterice and I would soak it for as
long as possibly can.
Again, when you soak thingslike that, it helps to take down
(35:19):
Not that this is always aproblem for people, but you
might have heard the termlectins can be a problem for
people, which is why some peoplehate spinach.
If you cook these things, if yousprout these things, they
usually take away or at leasteliminate a lot of lectin
problems.
So you know that was, if you'regoing to have rice, you need to
soak it for as long as possible, but then I would cook it in
(35:41):
things like bone broth, which isreally gut healing.
I'm a big believer that if youhave an issue, it's probably
because your guts out of whack.
It just is right Like you getyou.
Also, it does not not benefityou to focus on healing your gut
and like reducing inflammationin your body.
So it really started off withgrass fed grass, finish beef,
(36:05):
bone broth, rice, and you knowhe did really well with things
like broccoli, so I would throwthat in.
I try to focus on healthy fatsand fiber.
We need fiber in our lifepeople, we need those vegetables
, we need things to help geteliminated from our body Protein
.
So you know, I do love a sourceof protein on whatever level
(36:29):
you can get it.
And then it was like kind ofthe carbs afterwards.
And again it doesn'tnecessarily have to be carbs
like horrible carbs, but likesweet potatoes are considered to
be a carb, white rice isconsidered to be a carb, and I
stuck with that same meal indifferent variations for a
really long time until I startedto okay, let's, you know, let's
(36:54):
get creative here, let's let'sdo something more like add a
different vegetable in.
And I think if you focus oneliminating those problematic
foods that I was talking about,you will really notice a
difference.
And then you know, youexperiment.
You take four days to a week.
I like to give myself a weekand you pick one food item that
(37:17):
you're going to introduce backinto your diet.
Maybe it's butter, right, likemaybe you start cooking
something into butter and seeinghow it reacts.
You don't do anything else,just butter.
Four to seven days, you willnotice if your body is reacting
to it.
Right, because it's not alwayslike you said.
It's not always an immediateresponse, but sometimes it's
like I ate it in the morning,something happened at nighttime
(37:40):
and like what's happening here.
But if you have just one fooditem that you've introduced back
, you will automatically be likeoh, that's exactly what it is.
Okay.
If it's butter, then maybe it'sprobably likely a dairy
intolerance or sensitivity.
Pull it back out.
And I would say, pull it backout for a week until the
symptoms reside and then you canstart to introduce something
(38:02):
new.
Maybe it's a citrus fruit,maybe it's a piece of sprouted
toast.
Try to avoid the white wonderbread, if you can help it.
If you're going to have toast,try to do like a sprouted
version of it, or sourdough,right, and then introduce that
back in for four to seven days.
See how your body reacts.
If you don't have a reactionwith that within that family,
(38:26):
try to find some more foods thatyou can introduce and see if
you know.
If you don't have a reaction,you're probably like okay, I'm
probably okay with gluten atthis point or wheat at this
point.
You don't have to introduceevery food group from there, but
pick you know three or fourthings that you can introduce
from that food group and seelike, is it a problem for me or
(38:47):
is it not?
It can be a very long, tedious,you know, journey.
I was just thinking I was likeman.
I did this quote unquoteelimination diet with my son
almost a year ago and there'sfoods that we're just getting
around to introducing because,again, he's a toddler.
So I've had to go really,really slow with him.
He can't always say my stomachhurts or like my throat scratchy
(39:10):
, so it's been me just trying tolike, like, watch him for
different you know signs andsymptoms and stuff.
So it's been really slow.
You don't have to go as slow asthat, but sometimes it is super
slow and I'm a big believerthat when we pull these things
out of our diet and give ourbody a chance to heal again, if
you're dairy sensitive and yougo out once in a while and you
(39:33):
have an ice cream, for mostpeople it's not going to be the
end of the world.
They might get a little bit ofa girly stomach, they might not,
but they'll usually bounce backfrom that.
It's just if it's like dairysensitivity, and we're drinking
milk in our coffee every day.
That's going to be problematic.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, and it's really learning that.
And I love the invitation ofpulling things out for a week
and then reintroducing them for,you know, four to seven days,
because it will show up.
And it's so much easier when wepull one thing out because it's
really hard to be like okay, Iate 10 different things today
(40:12):
between you know my meals anddrinks, and now I need to just
magically pinpoint what isaffecting me or aggravating my
body, and we don't always know.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
So, love, that invitation, I remember.
I remember with thenutritionist.
She'd be like so what do youthink the problem?
Food is, and at the time I wasso proud because I thought he
had a very robust diet.
Right, these are all the foodsthat he eats, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, we went through thelist and took things out.
But and look, if you have themoney or the insurance, get a
(40:46):
test done like bypass all ofthis, so you don't have to spend
the time doing this.
But in case that's not anoption for you, this is another
way to do it.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, yeah, well, and thank you.
I mean because there are somany different options.
We have so many options today,which is a real benefit and we
can really make these smallchanges.
Another thing that you broughtup that I just wanted to kind of
close with before our finalquestions is the way in which we
(41:14):
prepare our food.
I mean, that's a whole otherpodcast, to be honest, but with
the with the rice and soakingthe rice or cooking the spinach
or you know, playing around with, I don't really think that my
body handles raw foods as well,which, honestly, is very.
If you ever like study Ayurvedathat's kind of what they say is
is never eat a raw vegetablebecause it takes your body more
(41:36):
effort to process that and it'sharder on your body than eating
cooked fruits and vegetables.
My mom is very into Ayurveda,so they'll like cook their
apples and, you know, cook datesand make all these.
I mean it's that's a whole,that's a whole podcast, but but
play around with it for youwhere you are.
I love that invitation becauseit's not always.
(41:58):
It doesn't always have to be oh, I can't.
I just can't have spinach,right.
Maybe it's the modality inwhich you're consuming the
spinach, or maybe what you'recooking your spinach, and maybe
you can't have the oil thatyou're cooking your spinach in
or the butter, but you could dolike a grass fed butter or a
tallow or ghee, or maybe you do.
(42:19):
Do you know an avocado oil orolive oil or something like that
?
So so many things to just playaround with, and I love the
verbiage that you use of likecuriosity and explore, and
that's obviously a huge part of,like I said, a huge part of the
three line in human design, butit's it's just such a beautiful
(42:39):
invitation to explore with allof our um lifestyle changes.
This, this everything that wekind of talked about with
nutrition, also can be appliedto movement and fitness, which I
love.
Um, before I ask you lastquestion, and we're going to do
a little bit of human design,but is there anything else that
(43:01):
you really feel like?
This is something that I woulddie on this hill to preach, that
I want to make sure thateveryone hears today.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I would just say, like we were saying with the
social media world, it's bothfabulous.
That's how you and I met.
But if you are consumingcontent and you're like I don't
know what I should be eatingbecause this person has told me
a thousand different things,unfollow them.
Like, truly start to limit whoyou're looking at and like find
(43:32):
one, maybe two people that youcan look to for inspiration and
that you resonate with and thatyou vibe with.
You don't have to consume, likeyou know, like the one three in
my mind.
Like I can do endless amountsof research and be like what do
all the different experts haveto say about this?
Yes, and it's just like there'slike a few people that I look to
(43:53):
for inspiration and other thanthat I'd let the noise in the
background go because it itdoesn't affect me.
It doesn't, at least at thispoint in my life.
I'm not resonating with it.
Maybe later on, but right now,just like, don't listen to all
the noise and truly trust yourintuition If something is
niggling at you or saying like,stop following that person.
(44:15):
Or like stop eating this food,trust that.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
You probably know that I oh gosh, what was I
reading?
I think it was a book, and itwas like you know what works for
you and what doesn't.
It's just our minds that try toconvince us that it does that.
Oh, I could still do this, or Ican still be in this
relationship, or I can keepeating this food.
And you actually know that youcan't.
But it's it's our brains, ourminds, trying to logically talk
(44:41):
us out of it.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Or if you're looking for a sign, that is your sign.
Like that's, that's another one, like, if you're like, if I
should do this, give me a sign.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
It's like you know then you should do it and along
those lines of not gettingcaught.
So let's do a little bit ofhuman design at the end.
Um, one of my favorite thingsthat I love doing is just pull
one little piece of my podcastguests uh chart and share it
with them.
So, since you're kind oftalking about having too much
(45:10):
information, informationoverload you, you might not know
this, I don't know, so I'llhave to.
I'll have to see at the end butwe have two energy centers in
our head in our human designchart.
So I talk a lot about energycenters.
Hopefully by now listeners arelike okay, hannah, stop talking
about energy centers, but I'mobsessed with them.
They teach us so much.
(45:31):
So if this is your first timelistening to an episode of mine,
we have these energy centersthroughout our body.
They roughly, they are pulledfrom the chakra system, so
they're going to look kind oflike the chakra system.
So our first energy center isthe crown, just like the crown
(45:52):
chakra, and then right below itwe have a triangle facing down,
pointing down, and that's ourAjna, or our third eye.
Both of yours are open.
Both of them are undefined.
I'm sorry you do have definedgates in them.
But having that and knowingthat, especially that top, that
crown, energy center beingundefined, how we best move
(46:16):
through the world is by gettinginspiration from other people.
So when we have a defined crownand defined Ajna or just a
defined crown, we might not needto pull as much inspiration
from others.
But I have an undefined crownas well and then I have a
defined Ajna.
So getting on social media and,like you said, finding those
(46:39):
people that I really resonatewith and then pulling
information from them, but thenas I'm processing it down, kind
of navigating and you use theword intuition like navigating
what really sits with you andsticks and what resonates and
then what doesn't.
Because with the undefined oropen centers we can get very
(47:01):
overwhelmed and you have a lotof undefined centers.
You only have two definedcenters.
I'm sure you've reallynavigated this in your life
eloquently.
I mean at this point I'm sureit's like pretty eloquent now
and like a second nature, but wecan get very overwhelmed with
all of the outside opinions andall of the energy and all of the
(47:22):
information.
So I love that you kind of gavethat example or that advice of
find a couple people.
Don't allow yourself to justmindlessly scroll like search
nutritionists and then justscroll through all of the abyss
of nutrition information,because we can get super
(47:45):
overwhelmed.
But having that undefined crown, we still need that inspiration
.
We need, like that's actuallyhow I gain a lot of or I used to
.
I don't so much anymore, butespecially in the beginning of
my journey, I used to like findpeople that I really admired in
human design and looked at likehow are they creating reels, how
are they reaching theiraudience?
(48:06):
And then how can I kind of moldthat information and process it
and use it to make it feel veryHannah and very aligned with my
vision, but still getting thatinformation?
So anyway, that's, that's yourhuman design tip.
I'm sure have you heard, haveyou learned, about energy
(48:26):
centers?
I'm sure you talk a lot aboutthem.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, so it's funny as you were speaking.
So the way that I kind of lookat like the head center is like
people who have it defined tendto I'm not saying this is
applicable to every singleperson, depending on your gates
and stuff, but I find thatthey're a little bit more like
set in their ways and like setin their ideas, whereas, like
with mine being undefined, I'vealways been like I get that
(48:50):
perspective, I get that side ofthings too, and you're like I
like I think this way, but thensomebody will counter it or show
me a different way and I'm likeoh, I never thought of it that
way.
That's a great point, andsometimes I will take that
information.
Other times I'm like I stilldon't necessarily agree or vibe
with that, but I'm glad I heardyour perspective on things.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
That's the kind of way that I've looked at it and
like you were saying I'll take acouple of things from different
people and I make it my own.
So I'm glad you kind of likereiterated that, because I'm
like that's exactly what I do.
Yes, for sure.
Oh, love that, love thataffirmation.
So where can people follow upwith you?
(49:32):
Where can people continue tolearn?
I know that you post a lot ofreally great little hacks and
tips and ideas on your socialmedia, so how can people stay in
contact with you?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, thank you so much for that.
So, across all social mediaplatforms TikTok, youtube,
instagram it's balance by MeganM-E-G-H-A-N.
I have a quite a largefollowing on TikTok, but people
mostly will DM me and chat withme on Instagram, which is
totally cool with me.
I have no problem with that.
I have a quite a largefollowing on TikTok, but people
mostly will DM me and chat withme on Instagram, which is
totally cool with me.
I have no problem with that.
I have some YouTube stuff outthere as well, and then my
(50:05):
podcast is just balance yourlife podcast.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Love that.
Last question is if you werestanding on a stage and you had
one minute to share one messagewith the world, what would that
message be?
Okay.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I think it would be.
You are stronger than youbelieve.
You are capable of more thanyou give yourself credit for and
you have a big life to live.
That is your life.
Don't do it for anybody else.
Don't follow what anyone elseis saying or doing online.
Do things because you want toand because we have one shot at
(50:52):
this life.
Make it fun, make it your own,you know.
I would also also say likehealth to me isn't just a trend
or it allows us to optimize ourlife and to do all the things
that we want to do if we'rehealthy.
If we're sick, we don't get theopportunity to do any of that
(51:12):
stuff.
So I hope that was under aminute.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
That's my little spiel hey, some people go way
over a minute, so you're totallyfine.
No, thank you so much.
That's such a beautifulreminder and we have so much
life to live, and how do youwant to choose to live your life
?
I love that.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, yeah, Thank you for coming.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Megan.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
Thank you, Hannah.
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