The Body's Hidden Language: Body & Emotion Code | Emanuel Zevallos CECP, CBCP, CGEF, CHt - Journey to Well

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, welcome back to the podcast journey to well.
So today I am very excited.
This is someone that we'veactually kind of been following
each other on social media for awhile and I got a body code
session with you, so I'm veryexcited to talk to Emmanuel.
He is a body and emotion codepractitioner, regression

(00:25):
hypnotherapist, and does a lotof work with group healing
within groups all around thecountry, so super excited to
dive into all of that.
Right before we hit record, Iwas telling Emmanuel, I'm going
to let you introduce yourself.
And then I was kind of likeactually this is why and I don't
think I've talked about this onmy podcast before but we can

(00:46):
get very lost and stuck in thetitles and our accolades and our
trainings and ourcertifications and our schooling
and all of those things whichis super important to name, and
that's why I kind of give theyou know gist in the beginning.
But what I'm really interestedin and what I love when I'm on

(01:06):
listening to a podcast is who isthis person that I'm talking to
, or who is this person that I'mlistening to, Not just where
did you go to school, when areyou living, what certifications
did you receive and traininghave you gone through.
So, Emmanuel, I'm so excited tohave you on the podcast.
I'm going to turn it over toyou to introduce yourself,

(01:27):
however you would like to.
Titles non-titles.
Who is Emmanuel?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, thank you so much for inviting me here.
I'm so grateful for you andwhat you do.
I was just complimenting youearlier about the breath work,
and it's such a.
Anything that helps peopleevolve, I feel is very sacred
work, and so I just.
There's probably countlessstories of people that have
shifted because of what you do,so I'm just grateful for what

(01:55):
you do.
For me introduction is I'm justanother brother that loves
people and I truly care.
One of the things that mymother told me when she was a
doctor she says that thedifference between me and other
doctors is that I treat peoplelike they're living, not like
they're dying.
And she was an oncologist andshe said, and she said that

(02:18):
basically is what I believemakes the difference.
And so when I work with people,I don't look at you as a
stranger, I look at you as ifyou were a brother of mine or a
sister of mine, and how muchtenderness, care, compassion,
empathy.
You know what I have with you.
If you were a sibling of mine,it'd be higher than it would

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just be a regular client who islooking for help.
So that's kind of the mindset Ihave whenever I meet with
anybody.
That's why a lot of people whenthey see me, they feel kind of
a nonjudgmental spirit about me,and it's because I'm looking at
them like family, and so Ithink that's how I like to
introduce myself.
But to get technical, I guess,as you mentioned, I do emotion

(03:01):
code, body code work, which is,you know, energy work.
I love it because it's verylogical and some energy work
that I respect.
All of them may look moreesoteric because there's certain
things they're doing with theirhands, but you don't really
know what they're doing.
For me, I love knowing thatthere's trapped emotions in our

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body, that we can locate themlogically through applied
kinesiology, which is muscletesting and removing it from
people.
And my favorite part even isfinding out what age that energy
got stuck in, so you'll be ableto recall certain memories and
say, wow, that's when thishappened.
That's when this happened.
So I do love that logical sidetoo and I love bringing people

(03:44):
to the past.
I feel like we all do it in ourdaily lives.
We are talking with someone,something triggers us and we
take our mental time machinebackwards to some trauma that
makes us reactive and it's notreally us anymore they're
talking to.
And so regression hypnotherapycaught my attention how we can
go back in time and change thedialogue of what happened back

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there.
So I'd also do that as well and, as I mentioned before, I love
working with a collective group.
When people come together andthey all have very similar
intentions, we tend to go indeeper into the subconscious
than if we were just to goone-on-one client.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Love that, love that.
You know that I love talkingabout human design.
So you are a four six sacralgenerator and that four line is
is called the people person, andwe can go into this later.
But I just love that youhighlight group work, because
part of your human designprofile actually is a lot of the

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biggest things that happen foryou until you are through people
that you know and creatingcommunity.
I had a he's actually a realestate agent on my podcast,
probably last year now, but hewas the founder of a networking
group that I was a part of foryears in Jersey City and he has
a four line too and I was likeyou have to have a four line

(05:05):
before I even pulled his chart.
So, anyway, the nerdy part ofme in human design always tries
to like figure out what people'shuman design is before I pull
their charts.
So I love that you also have afour line.
But I love all of the work thatyou do and I love what your mom
was saying about the treatingthem like they are living

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instead of dying, and treatingpeople as humans and friends and
family members and siblings.
Because in a lot of healingwork whether that's a medical,
like Western healing work, likeorthopedic doctor or physician
right or a holistic healerpeople are coming to you and us

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feeling very broken and I mean Iworked with you.
There's parts of me that feelvery broken and I deal with that
and I kind of process throughthat.
But to be approached withsomeone that you feel very
connected to and loved andsupported and really is looking
at you as just this human andthere's just some stuck emotions

(06:12):
here that we need to workthrough or there's maybe some of
that like the regressionhypnotherapy, like maybe there's
these younger versions ofyourself that are showing up
instead of you presently,versions of yourself that are
showing up instead of youpresently.
I think that really does make adifference in the efficacy of
your work.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, I think what you were saying.
To add to it is that one of thethings that I feel is very
pertinent is that if we couldjust kind of rewire our minds
and know that like 80% of thephysical issues you're dealing
with are due to trapped emotionsor emotions that we've stuffed

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in our bodies and you know, Iwas a professional stuffer
myself pretty much my whole life, and so I would know that.
You know, when you know mendon't cry, and we live in a type
of society where we're supposedto keep the emotions in.
Interesting enough, in the bodycode, when I'm working with
someone, there's always a 20%chance they might feel what they

(07:14):
call an echo, and what'sinteresting is that the men that
echo more are the ones thatstuffed it down more.
So what's happening is thatthey might feel the emotion a
little bit stronger than normalwhen they're going after the
healing process, and I have tolet them know that that's what
their body was trying to exudeearly on.

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But now, because you stuffed it, the only way to heal from it
is to feel it now, in thepresent.
But again, that's very rare,but it happens a lot with men,
and so I do let them know that'scalled an echo.
Just go take a walk, you know,go do some frizzy with your dog,
go read a book, do something tokind of get you back in the Zen

(07:55):
state.
But I just I feel, knowing theway you started this podcast and
about classifications, is thatthe more we find out more about
our identity and who we reallyare, our life can be very, very
different.
And the power to go back intime in our mind, the power to
remove these emotions that we'recreating, it's like, again,

(08:17):
just keep learning more aboutyourself, about how your body
truly functions, and not withsome, you know, not with, like
white white coat syndrome toldyou that is the truth Because,
again, they're not used totelling you that emotions got
you to where you're at.
But to get the full healing youneed to know the actual culprit
.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, when it's such a mindset shift to begin to
process, okay, logically I mightnot know what's going on, or
logically I might not remember,like we don't remember anything
before we're two.
Just like our brain isdeveloping so quickly and
processing so so muchinformation that we, if you

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think that you remembersomething before you're two,
typically it's like your parentstelling you a story and you're
like, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely,that happened to me, you know.
So we don't remember anythingbefore we're two.
But even very traumatic eventsand there's so much science
behind this, I know, you knowthis but there's our body, our
brain, kind of shuts down andforgets what trauma occurred,

(09:21):
even in pregnancy and childbirth.
We don't remember the womanlike I don't know you probably
can speak more eloquently aboutthis but we forget the pain of
childbirth because we're meantto reproduce and have more
children and if we rememberedhow bad it was, truly we
probably wouldn't have kidsagain.
So, having that mindset shiftfrom, having that mindset shift

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from, okay, maybe my minddoesn't remember this, but my
body remembers it.
And how can I learn thatcommunication of my body?
Because it's not going to speakin words, it's going to speak
in sensations or pain or chronicproblems or disease right, and
learning that has truly shiftedso much in my life and I am a
chronic overthinker Like I canget so deep in my mind and my

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thoughts and overthinking things, and that's why I found
Breathwork and learning and Ikind of remind this to my
clients in Breathwork Journeysis we don't even have to really
get stuck in the story behind it, and I'm curious to hear your
input on this because I don'tknow how this like aligns in
your work, but how I always leadmy breathwork journeys is we

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don't have to get stuck in thestory.
If your body is shaking a littlebit, if you feel like you need
to cry, if you feel like youneed to scream, if you feel the
sensation like in your elbow andyou just need to kind of like
shake it out or bounce it outand then you feel an emotion
arise, let that emotion passthrough, you Express however you
need to express, but we don'tneed to get stuck in like oh, my

(10:58):
elbow hurts because I broke itwhen I was 10 years old and but
you know like we don't alwaysneed to get.
So how does that show up inyour work and what you do?
Because I know you asked me afew questions and it's so
interesting to remember, likewhat happened to you when you

(11:19):
were six I think you said thislike what happened to you when
you were like six or seven yearsold, and I'm like this, like
what happened to you when you'relike six or seven years old and
I'm like well, my parents gotdivorced at that age a big event
, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So, um, this is so interesting because I used to
have a mantra in our oldpractice it was called coding
alternative and, um, it was like.
It was like talk less, healmore, and that was so that.
So it goes very much along withwhat you're saying.
One of the things also I didnotice too is that one of the

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major, the biggest wars orbattles you will ever have
sometimes is post therapy, let'ssay marriage counseling.
They say the biggest battlehappens on the drive home post
the session.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
So the question is.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
The question is what's happening?
Why does that happen?
I thought it would neutralizecertain things, but what's
actually happening is that whatthat therapist doesn't know is
that they're letting theseenergies bubble to the surface
and there could be like it'salmost like popcorn and the
woman's doing it and the man'sdoing it and what she does is

(12:25):
okay, great.
I'm glad that we talked aboutthis.
Now go about your way andhopefully these things change.
The problem is they're stillbubbling and popping in the body
and they're triggered orthey're feeling a lot of anxiety
.
They want to fight or flight,and now they're stuck in a car
together.
So that's what I call likedanger 101.
You have to.
I believe the future consistsof having two rooms.

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There's the therapy room wheresomeone can talk to you, but
then the next room is a bodycode practitioner that can
literally just say these wordsand say what energies and
emotions came out or are nowsurfacing in your body.
Can we release them now andthen go ahead and start just a
full on, as much as the bodywill release, and then let them
leave, because at that pointthey can feel that peace or

(13:10):
inner joy that they consciouslyreceive, but subconsciously they
feel like they're under attack,and so I think there is in the
beginning.
When I meet with someone new, Ido like to kind of be very
nitpicky about ages and emotions.
As time goes on, they stopcaring about that.
They just want the symptom togo down, and so they want the

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pain to go down.
They want to attract theirsoulmate, they want to make an
extra comment in their bankaccount.
It really doesn't really matterthat much, but I still put it
in anyway, just in case they getcurious about.
Oh, he put it down.
It's like age seven.
You know what was that?
Oh, that was the divorce.
So I do kind of allow them tolike.
They're the ones that choose inthe end if they want to care

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about it or not, but I always doit just in case.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Love that, Love that.
So let's explain a little bitdeeper what the body code, what
the emotion code?
I assume they're two differentthings.
Can you kind of explain that?
I personally feel like I'veheard those words thrown out
multiple times, kind of likehuman design.

(14:15):
Before I became a human designguide I had heard it, you know,
like it's just kind of likepassing in the wind.
So I've heard body code,emotion code quite a few times.
I actually know a few peoplethat are practitioners, but I've
never dove in.
I don't know that I could evenexplain it to someone even after
you were working with me.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
No, it's so.
It's very simple.
So first of all, I'd like tomention that the person who
created it was a chiropractorhimself.
His name is Dr Brad.
He lives probably like 17minutes away from me in St
George, Utah Not that thatmatters, but and your besties.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
That does matter Okay .

Speaker 2 (14:51):
So him and I are pretty good friends, you know,
but sometimes when I tell peopleI flew in his plane, people go
like this guy's a show off.
But it's like we were actuallyflying to some beautiful Native
American territory to like helppeople with addictions.
We weren't just going out tolollygag, you know.
So we're trying to help outsome beautiful people, but what
happens is he.

(15:13):
So what I love about him isthat he has a connection with
the creator, which is reallyimportant.
You know, I feel like allhealing kind of comes from above
.
You know, when we're just kindof conduits or one of the ways
that he receives compliments ofpeople, compliment him he's.
He always responds.
I just work down here and Ilove the way he answers that way
.
And one thing he said was andhe would meet with a lot of

(15:36):
clients, but he would alwayskind of pray or kind of just
connect with above before he metwith them.
So he did it in private and hesaid that sometimes, like once
in a blue moon, he would getthese downloads where he like
knew everything that was wrongwith the person and how to fix
it.
And because he experienced thatonce or twice, he kind of like
yeah, I think I should bet onthat to do that more.

(15:59):
But then he started having somevery complicated cases and he's
like I don't know how to helpthese people.
I'm only a chiropractor, I canonly do so much.
And so then what he did is hestarted getting different
downloads of how the body reallyworks, and I thought for the
longest time emotions came fromthe brain and some do.
But our organs and glands areproducing emotions all the time.

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So, for example, the liverproduces anger, bitterness,
guilt, hatred, resentment.
We all know somebody who's toocaffeinated or maybe drinks way
too much alcohol or robotism notrobotism, I'm just joking, but
too much alcohol, too muchcaffeine, and their liver is
kind of fatty, it's workingextra hard, so it's easy for
them to feel anger, bitterness,guilt, hatred and resentment.

(16:46):
And so you've probably feltthis before, hannah, where
you're maybe very emotional oneday, you're really sad, but then
all of a sudden there's thissort of like cutoff time, like
all of a sudden like somethingin your body tells you OK,
that's enough crying, and it'slike your waterworks kind of
shuts down.
So I've always wondered likewhat is that clock?
Where is that clock that saysenough being angry, enough being

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sad.
But there's a better way to lookat it.
Think of it this way your bodyis producing these emotional
energies the size of a tennisball to a cantaloupe energies
the size of a tennis ball to acantaloupe and it processes
through your skin and then itleaves the stratosphere of your
skin.
Once you've done that, you'vequote unquote finished the cycle
of the emotion or you'veprocessed the emotion and so you

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don't feel that way anymore.
That's why you'll even babiesdo all the time Like they'll be
crying or whatever.
And all of a sudden they'rejust like huh, they're just like
I'm done crying time, likethey'll be crying or whatever.
And all of a sudden they'rejust like huh, they're just like
I'm done crying.
It's like they they process theemotion of crying or sadness or
abandonment and um, but some ofthese emotions get stuck
because they're very heavilycompressed or for whatever
reason.
They just get stuck.
They don't process properly andthat's called the trapped

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emotion.
Um, and we have hundreds ofthese.
And the fact that you mentioned,you know, we don't remember
much when we were two.
You're so spot on.
Our subconscious rememberseverything before two and what
would happen in the womb andwhat happened before the womb,
which is kind of a cool topic totalk about, is kind of like who

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you were before you were born,and that is mentioned in the
body code too.
So through muscle testing ifpeople are watching the video
I'm just pushing down on my armnear my wrist area called
applied kinesiology, and you canask questions and then use a
magnet on what they call thegoverning meridian, which goes
from the upper lip to the backof your spine and it's basically

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the motherboard of all yourmeridians.
And if you put a magnet on therewith love and gratitude and you
have the intention of releasingan emotion three times if it's
yours, 10 times if it'sinherited, then you have the
ability to actually release itfrom someone and then you can
muscle test again.
Did we release that specificemotion?
And your arm will actuallyconfirm it by it being strong,

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and so that's how you do it.
Now I obviously do it longdistance, so I do it what they
call via proxy, and so I do iton behalf of people.
So I do self muscle testing andthen I just use a magnet on
myself and then release it fromsomebody else.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Wow, so interesting.
I have practiced muscle testing.
My mom does energy work.
She's trained in a differentkind of energy work.
Like you said, there's alldifferent kinds, and so she's
done muscle testing on me.
We've also have you ever heardof like using your body as a
pendulum.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Oh yeah, definitely yeah.
So the sway test.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, okay, yeah, so same thing.
I prefer using that.
I don't.
I don't think that I muscletest myself well, but it's also
just because I haven't practicedit.
But I actually worked with achiropractor that does
neuroemotional technique and I'mcurious after I finished saying
what I'm going to say, I'mgoing to ask another question
about that.

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But she did a bunch of muscletesting on me and I was just so
it's so interesting, if you'relistening and you've never tried
muscle testing, go find someoneand then someone that's very
experienced in it Somechiropractors the kind that like
don't crack you, they aretypically trained in it or like

(20:15):
body code, emotion codepractitioners, and try it,
because it's so interesting tofeel like you physically just
can't, you know.
They'll kind of try to like pullyour arm away in a way, like
you kind of have your arm byyour side and they'll pull it
towards them and it's such aninteresting experience to feel
like that strength and thatweakness.

(20:35):
And anyway, my question aboutNET is what are the different?
Have you heard ofneuroemotional technique and, if
so, what are the differences?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Okay.
So unfortunately I haven'theard of it.
It sounds cool and you know,but, like I said, I'm not sure
how that process goes.
And again, there's many ways ofreleasing emotions.
You can do it through prayer,you can do it through meditation
, you could do it through yourbreath work that you do, theta
healing, reiki healing there'sso many different ways.

(21:05):
Again, it's kind of like whatdo you prefer?
And again, what I've noticed iskind of beautiful is that I've
been very fortunate that as soonas I start working with others
that are professionals in theirfield with Reiki or Theta, they
always ask me what the crap areyou using in regards to the
charts?

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And I said I'm using, becauseat first they think I'm doing it
intuitively.
They're like are you justcoming this up with your mind?
And I said no, it's actuallythese charts that I'm saying
left or right, top or bottom,left or right.
I'm just like going throughthese charts with you and
there's over 250 hyperlinks.
So it is the complete takescare of the nervous system,

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circulatory system, spiritualbody, aura, pathogens.
I mean it's supposed to be likethe complete thing.
I mean I've helped people whocouldn't read.
They were dyslexic at age 19,did like one or two sessions she
could read, for the first timeever, people who have

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fibromyalgia finding out thatthe major trauma that happened
was her mom, who took away herbaby when she just had her baby.
And then I had to work my wayback there and I kept finding
age 19, what happened at age 19?
And it was that trauma.
So everything can relate tosome specific trauma in their
life and it's just kind ofcomforting to know, like, yeah,
I knew that caused my issue.

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Right now, like I knew, but Ididn't know it though that's the
part that shocks them is likehow would I know that age?
How would I know that emotionthat they felt?
And it's not me I them is likehow would I know that age?
How would I know that emotionthat they felt?
And it's not me.
I try not to say it's not me,it's really.
Your subconscious recordseverything, every corner.
You've turned, every tearyou've dropped, every person you
broke up with, every heartbreak, every person that's passed
away.
Your subconscious is recordingit 24-7.

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And you don't have to remember.
You can have complete amnesiaand still benefit from a body
code session, so you don't haveto know anything as well.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, which is it which is so relieving?
Because I've I'm someone thathas done a lot of therapy and I
love that example that you gaveand I fully support sign me up
for the therapy session and thengoing and working with a body
code practitioner, because I'vedone that route for a long time
and you can really rehash a lotof this trauma, the ones that

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you remember, and then maybe youremember as you're talking, you
remember more.
But to work with somebody thatworks in an energy field and
learn that your body can again,your body can tell these things.
The body can tell you or thepractitioner what is going on
and how to heal and how torelease, and neuroemotional

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techniques sounds very, verysimilar, except she never used a
magnet on me.
So I'm curious what the magnetdoes.
So I'm curious what the magnetdoes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
The magnet is just so we look cool.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
No, that's not the answer at all.
No, the magnet.
Actually, what it does is, ifyou think about it with a magnet
, you see, if you were to put iton a hotel card, the hotel card
wouldn't work.
If you put it long enough on acomputer and on the data board
and things like that computerwould have some issues
functioning too.
So it's the electric charge,and obviously you're trying to

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extract an emotional energy.
But I feel like the real powerthough, and according to what my
studies is, that it's love andit's gratitude.
Those two are the greatestpowers in your intention.
So, technically and for yourviewers, there's many ways to
release the emotion.
Besides doing the governingmeridian Technically, to kind of

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make your brain kind of stretchout to a different planet and
stratosphere is, you can justuse your mind and say I'm
swiping my head right now, orI'm swiping the governing
meridian, and you can test itlike wow, we got rid of it, so
we don't have to do it.
Also, the edge of yourfingertips have a lot of charge.
You can light up a whole citywith the electric charge in your
body.
So you can just use the tip ofyour fingertips and do it as

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well.
And on your ear is the Chineseacupuncture of a baby in utero.
Technically, if you were tokind of rub the top of your ear
to your bottom, that's likerubbing the back of the spine of
your baby version of yourself.
Um, the last one that Itypically use is my middle
finger, which in Koreanacupuncture is the head and the

(25:32):
spine.
So when I was working with you,I was just doing this, and this
is the same as if I was rubbingyour back here in person, and
so that whichever method reallyworks is really cool.
Back to muscle testing.
If a really fun one that I like, there's a, there's an Asian
one that I really like.
I don't know if you've triedthis.
Maybe, hannah, you want to tryit with me.
So, with you like, pretend,like you just like found a

(25:55):
ladybug and you're like holdingonto her wing.
You wouldn't like smush it toohard.
Right, it's ladybug, andknowing you as a, as a peace
person, you probably wouldn'teven hold onto a ladybug, but
you'd let the ladybug fly, right.
There's a saying where it saysif you like something, you, you,
you pluck it out.
If you, if you love it, leaveit there, but anyway.
So what you do is you you kindof just rub, of, just rub it

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like this, like your indexfinger over your thumb, and say
in your mind, right now and I'mnot going to say it so you can
do it for yourself Okay, in yourmind, just keep saying, like my
name is Hannah, you know, andjust keep spinning it.
Right, you're just lightlygoing in.
It should be pretty smooth,mm-hmm, pretty smooth.
Right, okay, now go ahead andstop it.
Okay Then, pretty smooth, right, okay, now go ahead and stop it

(26:44):
.
Okay, then say your name is bob, and then I want you to spin it
.
So if you notice it's just kindof a little bit stickier, like
it's kind of not as smooth, youknow it's very slight though and
yeah, so so that is a negativeon your body is giving you a
negative response.
So anytime you lie, it's a liedetector test.
If you say, like I'm 13 yearsold, it'll be sticky, it won't

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be smooth.
And so that's how you can gothrough the charts yourself and
say, do I have a trapped emotiongiving me a headache?
And if it's smooth, then likecool, is it in column A or is it
in column B?
And you can, you can literallygo on the emotion code chart
yourself.
The problem is a lot of peopleare nervous that they're being
too biased and so that's whythey hire people like myself who

(27:28):
I don't know who you are and Ihave non-biasness and I've been
doing it for 10 years.
But people can, technically, ifyou buy the emotion code book
forwarded by Tony Robbins.
Technically, if you buy theemotion code book forwarded by
Tony Robbins, you'd have all theinformation you need to do at
least an emotion code session onyourself.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I'm going to buy the book Love Tony Robbins.
I actually went to UPW, I'msure you have too.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I haven't yet, but he never, he never forwards books
and he forwarded the book and heactually invited Brad and Jean,
his wife, to Fiji Island andhim and his wife told them we
believe you're visionaries ofthis earth and we bless your
work.
And his wife gave them ablessing and then he asked for
him to work on all his wholeteam in the Fiji Island house.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
That just says a lot about what they're doing, you
know.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Such a cool.
I'm going to play with that andI totally agree.
Again, coming from theoverthinker, even when I
pendulum myself sometimes I canget a little bit stuck in like
should I be moving forward?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Should I be?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
swaying forward.
Should I be swaying back andreally getting stuck?
I'm going to share this examplewith you just because I feel
like you would appreciate it,and it's a really great
illustration of trusting yourbody.
My mom and I play around allthe time with energy work and
you know all of the things.
So, and I don't even rememberlike why we were talking about

(28:59):
this, but we were kind of Ibelieve it was food sensitivity
or like loving food and hatingfood, and so she was like okay,
write down three or four foodsthat you love and then three or
four foods that you hate andfold them up so you can't see
them, you don't know which paperyou're holding up, and then you

(29:20):
hold one up at a time.
We work.
How we work is we hold thispiece of paper or we hold the
thing up to your solar plexus,and so we one at a time.
I held one paper up, swayedforward or back, so I put it in
the yes or the no pile.
If it's a sway forward, it's ayes for those that are listening
.
If it's a sway back, it's a yesfor those that are listening.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
If it's a sway back, it's a no Kind of like the
stickiness is a no Supernon-biasness going on right now.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Definitely.
That's awesome, absolutely yeah, and when you take yourself out
of it, right your mind out ofit.
So we did all eight.
All four foods that I lovedwere swayed forward.
All four were pushed back, asyou can imagine, and it was just
such a cool example like thatwas a moment that really clicked
in my mind that this is not woo.
I mean, I'm sure that it soundsvery woo woo, but this is

(30:11):
actually the intelligence ofyour body and we don't know,
we're not taught how intelligentour bodies are and we're not
taught that we can.
I think here's a question foryou, because this is how it is
in my head.
I think that we have theseideas that healing is very hard

(30:32):
and it's very long and we'renever fully healed and you know,
like it's a long process andone of the things that, knowing
you a little bit, that I do, itseems that it doesn't.
You don't have that perspectivethat it doesn't have to be
arduous.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, so that I believe a lot of that stuff
comes from early programming.
Because, again back to thewhite coat syndrome, we've given
our power to others and, like Isaid, there's nothing wrong
with white coats, the for heroicfeats, like heroic surgeries,
that you know they're incredible.

(31:13):
I mean, we have the besttechnology to be able to get
your arm back in your socket andyou know you wouldn't want a
body code practitioner if yourarm is on the ground.
So it's like it seems likeyou're kind of upset that your
arm is off.
It's like probably not the best, but the thing is, and so there
is a place.
However, where they fail ispreventative, and where they

(31:36):
fail is almost analyzation ofyour personal lifestyle
emotionally, physically,spiritually.
Who are you being every singleday that is creating this
symptoms in your body?
That's not where they reallylean on and that's because
there's no money in it for them.
So it's an agenda.
My parents are both doctors, soI know them, you know, so it's

(31:57):
an agenda.
My parents are both doctors,you know, so I know.
You know oncologists andhematologists, I know how they
think.
But my mother, again, was justa little bit smarter than my
father.
I can just admit that I haveproof of this.
I have proof.
You know, mom is probablysmiling from up in heaven, but
she tutored him, you know, inUCLA Medical School, and you

(32:19):
don't do that unless you're kindof a little slower than the
woman that you love, you know.
So I hope my past is send thispodcast to my dad to just kind
of give him a little oomph.
You know, in the stomach, butwhat?
The thing that I noticed is thatshe was into you know when,
when and whether she did thisillegally or not in in Kaiser.
She would take people back andbe like hey, let me go test your

(32:41):
urine and see your pH and whattype of food are you eating, and
do you live in a toxicenvironment?
Do you live in a safeenvironment?
If you don't change the thingsthat your lifestyle, then what's
going to happen is you willcome back to my office again.
See, that's a different doctorthan the doctors that we're
seeing nowadays that are justlooking for a temporary band-aid

(33:04):
to increase their residualincome.
And so I think it's sorefreshing now that the reason
why I feel like the holistic ageis coming to, like it's trying
to hit 2%, it's trying to like,you know, everyone's kind of
leaning towards it.
It's not because all of asudden we woke up one day and
said we should be awakened.
It's because our, our babyboomers, were suffering.

(33:24):
That this is, this is a fact.
All the baby boomers thatdepended on the white coats
failed.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
And we, as children, saw them suffer.
So we have no, we have nochoice but to say that didn't
work and I'm not going to buyinto that, because it didn't
work for my mom, didn't work formy dad and they suffered with
health issues when they shouldhave been healthy parents taking
care of me.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
And so I think that really is pain what caused the
awakening, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Wow, it's true.
I mean, that's my experience.
I went to an orthopedic doctorand it was pretty much just pain
meds, you know, and that wasthat was his answer, and
actually the pain meds didn'teven work for me.
So you know, like it's just itwas.
It's incredibly frustrating andthat is one of the reasons I

(34:13):
just had a doctor of acupunctureand oriental medicine on my
podcast and I said the samething.
That's one of the reasons that Istarted this podcast is to be
able to learn from experts intheir field and be able to
introduce these other healingmodalities.
Whether you are in chronic pain, physical pain, emotional pain,

(34:37):
spiritual pain, you just feellike you're stuck at this
plateau in your life.
It doesn't always have to bethis huge pain and that's
something you said preventativecare, like what can I do for
myself now that will serve myfuture self before I get to the
point of a big diagnosis ormedical diagnosis or a big issue

(35:02):
in my life.
And I am so thankful to haveyou on this podcast and have
your expertise in this modality.
That is so interesting and Ilove that you work virtually as
well.
I think that's also somethingthat I had to get through my

(35:23):
mind, but again, my mom does it,so I have a little bit of
experience with it.
But being able to workvirtually and and being able to
you and Jess and I would love totalk about Jess, your wife-
yeah, she's amazing, I'mobsessed.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Behind every good man is a surprised woman and she's
just incredible.
But basically, yeah, and Ithink she did an inner voice
scan for you and one of thethings that caught my attention
is that, if I try to frame thisright, you know if, if, if, if
Rife there's a very famous likekind of physicist, rife, and

(36:01):
like Tesla and like Einstein,all had a baby and made a device
.
Okay, this is how I'm going to.
I'm going to kind of frame it.
It would be that scanner shejust used with you and I really
feel like this is liketechnology from the future.
I mean to be able to scan yourvoice and you have 8,000
frequencies coming from yourvoice and it's telling you which
emotions you overuse, whichones you suppress, and how it's

(36:25):
affecting your body, sending youlike a nine page, 10 page
readout.
Then, not only that, we allknow that binaural beats are
really good to balance the brain, but you go on YouTube and
you'll find very non-personalaudios that are not really for
your emotional ecosystem, and soI love this.

(36:46):
This is very personalizedThrough your 8,000 frequencies.
The scanner is like okay, thisis how I balance this out.
She has problems with beingperfectionist or unconditional
love.
She tends to lean towardsperfectionism.
This note A sharp will lean hertowards unconditional love, and

(37:07):
if she listens to this for 15minutes, you're actually
self-regulating yourself, andthat's something that we do not
have Usually.
I feel all of us, me includedis we tend to go into tantrum
and we don't self-regulateourselves.
And this machine, when youlisten to the audio, it's almost
like you're calming your innerchild and saying they're there,

(37:28):
it's okay, and that's reallywhere tantrums come from is
really inner child issues.
But how do we?
Do we let it out and punch ourhusband?
Do we like kick the cat?
You know, what do we do?
And I think the answer is youhave to go inward and be like
put on headphones, let the beats, balance your brain out and you

(37:48):
come out a better person.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, it was so interesting to get my report.
I mean it all, it all makessense, kind of like when we're
listening to human design stuff.
But my, I'm gonna read minejust just so you can kind of get
an idea.
You gave one example, but mylike keywords were fear versus
confident, repetitive thinkingversus creative thinking which

(38:13):
is so valid for me, creativethinking, which is so valid for
me, suppressed emotion versusself-expression and conditional
love versus unconditional love.
And then it has, you know,obviously, yeah, there's maybe
it's like 15 pages or something,I don't know how long it was,
but it has this really beautifulbreakdown.

(38:33):
And here's the thing I amhealthily skeptical of all of
these things and I think that weshould be skeptical of
everything.
We should be skeptical of whatour doctor tells us to do.
We should be skeptical of ourhuman design chart.
We should be skeptical becausewhen we're skeptical, we are.

(38:54):
When we're openly skeptical,we're curious and we're really
open to how is this actuallyreacting in my body, versus
someone telling me how it shouldbe reacting.
So when Jess sent me the audioclips, which I love, that

(39:14):
there's like different musicthat you can listen to.
And there's the beats, likethere's so much there.
But I played, I woke up and Iwas just kind of in a funk, just
like how we sometimes are, andmy back was hurting because
that's what I'm dealing with.
And I played one of the upbeatbeats and I listened to it for
like 5-10 minutes and I was justkind of going about my day or

(39:38):
my morning and then I just kindof found myself like dancing
which I don't really danceunless I'm like happy and in a
really good mood and pain freeand all the things and I found
myself kind of like bopping tothe music and dancing around and
then I turned the music offwhen, about my day and maybe an
hour later I was like was like,oh, my back really doesn't hurt
as much as when I woke up, andit's that kind of I'm saying

(40:03):
it's skepticism like just try itwithout this expectation of
this is going to heal me or thisis going to fix me, like let me
just try it and see whathappens.
It's literally listening tomusic or literally just like
popping on a call with you andtry it and then see how you feel
, versus again coming in withthis like, oh, this is

(40:26):
definitely not going to work.
And kind of going back to yourmind thing, you said, like you
can kind of imagine that you'reswiping over your governing
meridian.
Our minds are so powerful, socan I just open my mind.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
And you know what?
One of my favorite quotes itsounds kind of funny when I say
it, but it's one of my favoritequotes by T Harv Eker, secrets
of the Millionaire Mind.
He said you're either right oryou're rich, but you can't be
both.
And what that reminds me of isthat a lot of our family and
friends, unfortunately, love tobe right.

(41:04):
This is like their addiction tobe right.
But then they're not reallywinning in the area that they're
right in.
So if they're like all aboutlike health and health and
health, but it's like they'rediabetic, it's like, okay, wait.
Like a health and health andhealth, but it's like they're
diabetic, it's like, okay, wait,how does that work, you know?
And so my, when I read thatbook, I found what I was looking
for is like, look, this is agreat thing.
You should all tell yourselveswhoever's listening to this

(41:24):
podcast, and maybe it's helpingsomeone out is what has what I
believe is right has gotten mehere, and I'm not happy with
certain areas of my life, so Ineed to choose to be wrong so I
can get there, and it'ssomething that I just it's not
easy to do, but just think aboutit, all the things that, like

(41:46):
you think you know everything.
This is your life.
Look around you.
Do you like it?
Do you like every area of it?
If not, there are so manyplaces you can be wrong in so
that you can be rich, and that'skind of like.
So, after age 26, I actuallywent on a hunt to like look for
things that I'm wrong in, andthat's not a normal thing to do,
in fact.

(42:06):
In fact, in my journal I writeKQE, which stands keep
questioning everything.
And it's something that I keepwriting from time to time in my
journal because I'm like if thisis real truth, I should be able
to stomp on it, slap it, throwit around and do everything, and
it'll still be there.
If I have fear that it's nottruth, then I'm not going to
probe it.
So the question is is like goback to all the truths.

(42:30):
You know when was the last timeyou probed it?
And so that kind of again opensup your mind a little bit, and
one time I'll tell you thisreally funny story.
There was this woman thatintroduced me to her husband and
he showed up on a zoom call.
I don't do zoom calls anymore,um, but the he showed up there
and he had his arms crossed,legs crossed, eyes crossed, hair

(42:51):
crossed, ears crossed, and hewas just looking at me and I
just was very blunt.
I'm the kind of guy that justlikes to just put attention to
the grill in the room and I justsay I'm going to guess that
your wife forced you to meetwith me and he's like he's like,
yeah, and I'm like, and youdon't even know what I do he's
like nope, and I'm like, and youprobably don't even want to be

(43:14):
here, he's like nope.
But then this is what I said tohim and it and, by the way, that
guy, I actually worked on hisAchilles area and I lowered his
pain down from like an eight toa two within like 15 minutes.
And that's how.
That's how men bond.
I'll tell you that straight,straightforward.
Men bond when pain goes down,because that's the thing that
bothers them the most is justphysical pain, and they don't

(43:37):
know who to cry to, they don'tknow who to get a hug from, and
I'm the guy.
I'm the guy that's looking forthem.
But what's interesting is thatI told him this.
I said do you know why thiswill work for you today?
And he's like no, why?
I'm like?
Because you showed up, and ifyou had, if this tells me that
you have a mustard seed of faith, and that's all I need to move

(44:02):
a mountain.
And so I told him that and hestayed, and then I worked on him
and then his I started workingwith him and his family.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Wow, thank you for sharing that story.
And isn't it so true?
We just need a mustard seedsometimes.
Sometimes we just need thatlittle, that little twing, that
little pain of.
Maybe this could help me.
Maybe this is something I trulydo believe that universe, god,

(44:31):
our body, whatever you want tocall it like something, guides
you to where you, where you needto be, and maybe landing on
this podcast is exactly whereyou need to be.
And hearing what you heardbecause we don't always soak up
everything that's being said,but hearing what you heard is
exactly what you need to behearing right now, in this
moment.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, and I'll even add this one more thing too If
anyone's listening to thispodcast and you happen to have a
piece of paper, it's kind ofcool to draw this down on a
piece of paper.
What we're very good at iswe're very quick at judging
something and putting it in abox and then putting it away.
We're actually professionals atdoing that.

(45:13):
The problem is that it'sclosing opportunities for you,
and the things that I used tocall a scam when I was younger
have liberated my life more thanever.
You know, I used to.
I used to rag on religion, youknow, but I don't do that
anymore and I've I've opened upmy mind to different faiths and
it's changed me.
I used to rag on people whowork from home and be like, oh,

(45:36):
you guys are in a pyramid scam,but then my wife is like a top
person in one of thosehome-based businesses.
It's changed her life.
So think about another kind ofcool little challenge for you.
What are you making fun ofright now?
That really would be one of thebiggest gates to change your
life.
But anyway, what I wanted to saywas draw in a piece of paper,

(45:58):
draw like an ear, draw a book,draw a group of people together
and basically oh, and then drawan eyeball.
Okay, and one of the thingsthat I tell people is that if

(46:19):
you are, if there is somethingworth looking into and you're
very healthily skeptical, gothrough these four funnels
before making your judgment.
Number one is when people say,oh, no, I don't believe in body
code, blah, blah, blah.
And this is what I would tellthem and I would start with the
eyeball.
I would say you haven't seenwhat I've seen.

(46:41):
And then I would go with the ear, I would say you haven't heard
what I've heard.
And then the book is youhaven't read what I've read.
And then you haven't met thepeople that I've met.
And if you go through thosefour funnels, you'll probably
become a believer in the bodycode.
But until then, unfortunately,you're making too soon of a

(47:01):
judgment and you're actuallystagnating your growth.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, wow.
And how many things do we dothat?
With how many practices can wego through and say I haven't
seen, I haven't seen.
I haven't heard, I haven't read,I haven't worked with these
kinds of people or I haven'tbeen surrounded with these kinds
of people, and and what wouldhappen if I do?
And what do you have to lose?

(47:28):
Okay, so it doesn't do anything, and that's what my mom always
says.
She's like you know, when youtake a medication to help your
fibromyalgia, they have all ofthese side effects that are
going to.
You're going to have at leastone side effect, because that's
like synthetic medication.
You're just going to have sideeffects with energy work.

(47:51):
She's like the worst that'sgoing to happen is you just
don't really feel any different.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Like the worst that's going to happen is you just
don't really feel any different.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
The best that's going to happen is that you feel
incredibly different and youfeel better, and you feel more
vibrant or awake or what I meanwhatever.
You are going to feel less pain.
So that, yeah, and that's whatI really love about these
healing, more holistic healingmodalities is there's really no
side effects besides feelinggood, hopefully.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, or they say that there's nothing.
I think Brad said this once.
I think he said something likethere's nothing to lose except
for trapped emotions.
So I'll take that from him.
But yeah, your mom is very wise, very wise words.
And the thing is is, again, youdo have to put in the work, the
consistency to meet with yourpractitioner.

(48:42):
I meet with clients once a week.
I have I don't usuallytypically share this, but like
there were two people that hadthe C word, let's just say like
C cell and but basically like,yeah, after a few sessions they
didn't have that C word anymore.
I mean, it's.

(49:03):
I haven't even spoken to themon the phone yet, like even when
it was gone, we've only emailedeach other, you know.
And so the future is here rightnow, and the future is we have
to return back to how ourspiritual ancestors used to heal
their bodies.
The only reason why we've againhad to go through a period of

(49:27):
time where medication was thedeal is just because the world
will do that.
It will find ways to kind ofdisempower you and that you're
not that powerful, you're not ason of the creator.
It's trying to push this falseidentity on you.
That's why there's fluoride inthe water.
If you think about it, thatcloses our pineal gland.

(49:49):
What is the greatest connectionto the creator and to ourselves
?
As having our pineal glanddecalcified?
So it's just that point aloneis like, why, if, if the
government was so for us, why isthat in the water right there?
Like they would, probably theyshould provide this amazing Adam

(50:11):
and Eve water that goes throughthere, that makes you number
one younger and then decalcifiesyour pineal gland.
But no, it's something thatlowers your identity and we
become drones, we just becomethese uh kind of zombies and um,
so again, just, you know I cango that's a whole nother seminar
that I won't go into um, youknow, like, like, why do they
take away all these um, very um,you know, um, basically drugs,

(50:34):
to expand the mind back in the50s and 60s.
It's like now look at therevival of that coming now with
ayahuasca and all thesedifferent things.
But they were saying that wasbad and put some sort of
criminal law against it.
So, again, if you keep lookingat the history of what
government shuts down, it'severything anti-identity, it's

(50:55):
not pro-identity.
So just be aware of, like, findpeople that are liberated in
where you are, in some sectionin your life and then follow
them.
There's a saying that sayspeople listen or you buy
someone's opinion, you buy theirlifestyle.
So the question is, who haveyou been buying that?
Maybe you do not want theirlifestyle and kind of start

(51:16):
changing that, those group ofpeople that you listen to?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Wow, amen.
So I'd like to share two thingsabout your human design chart
and then I have a final questionfor you.
So I did mention your humandesign profile.
Uh, so I did mention your humandesign profile, the the four,

(51:40):
six line, which we have twodifferent lines and they're kind
of two different personalitycharacteristics.
Our profile is our personality,so how our personality comes
out in this world, and so thethe cool thing that I wanted to
share about the four linesspecifically being the people.
Person is, like I said earlier,the biggest opportunities and
the most growth that four linesexperience in this life tends to

(52:03):
be through people they know orgroups that they know.
So like maybe you met your wifeyou know through a mutual
friend, or maybe you met Brad oryou were introduced to the
emotion code through a mutualfriend or something like that.
Also absolutely love that youdo group work and I see that

(52:24):
with a lot of four lines not allfour lines, but a lot of four
lines tend to really capture theimportance of group work and
networking and community, whichis really fun.
Four lines tend to be very safein their transitions, so if

(52:46):
they can help it obviously notall transitions you can plan,
but like moving from job to jobor relationship to relationship
or even physically moving yourhouse, like you might find that
you have to really know, like ifwe're imagining you're jumping
from one rock platform toanother, you have to see that
rock platform before you makethe final jump.

(53:08):
Versus myself, I'm a one threeprofile, so I'm kind of that
like just try it and see whathappens just jump without the
parachute umso that's the four line.
The other thing that I waslooking at your chart that I
thought was really cool is wehave all of these energy centers
.
Do you know the chakra system?

(53:28):
Yeah, so it roughly um pulls.
It mirrors the chakra system,except we have nine energy
centers in human design, sevenchakras traditionally.
So one of the energy centers isour emotional center, it's our
solar plexus, which is theemotional center in human design
and all of our centers weeither have, like if you see a

(53:53):
picture of your human designchart, you'll see like a colored
in triangle up here or a whitetriangle like kind of where your
nose and chin would be, andcolored in and not colored in
means you're a defined center orit's an undefined center.
If it's not colored in, there'salso all these numbers around

(54:13):
your center and if you have noneof those numbers colored in,
it's called an open center.
It's completely open and youhave one completely open center
which is your emotion center.
And what I teach in humandesign, what I have learned and
what I truly believe, is thatour open centers, if we have an
open center, that is what we arecreated to learn and process

(54:39):
and like alchemize in our lifeand my open center I have one
also is I have an open rootcenter.
So really learning likegrounding, how to come back to
myself, how to stay groundedit's really important for me to
ground, so seeing yours as theemotional solar reflexes is the
only open one.

(54:59):
I just love that you are in theemotion code and your whole
life journey is about reallyreleasing emotions and
alchemizing your emotions andyour emotional journey and that
just really reflects in yourhuman design chart.
So I had to point that out.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
That's really interesting.
I feel like I feel vulnerable,yeah, like you know, like it's,
it's cool to that.
You know, I'm also very biginto numerology as well and
there's so much, there's so muchtruth in regards to certain
dates and certain times.
You know I was, I was a friendof mine who I'm good friends
with.
He's into numerology and he'slike I'm like my birthday's like

(55:38):
28 and he's like 28.
It's a very kind of likeaffluent number.
You know a lot of, uh, verylike a lot of kings, a lot of
royalty, like they actuallypurposely somehow move dates for
people to be born, like theylike I don't know if it's like a
force uh a baby to come out orwhatever like on the 28th on
purpose, wow, yeah, so I thoughtthat was really fascinating.

(55:59):
You naturally came out on the28th.
He's like so that's, that'sreally interesting, because you
should never worry about likehaving lack and and so, and also
a famous actor that he workswith too.
He was also on the 28th too.
So I thought that was kind ofinteresting.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
So cool yeah.
So many things to learn.
I need to learn more aboutnumerology.
Last question, actually beforelast question where can people
follow up with you?
Where can people learn morefrom you and maybe even schedule
a call with you?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
So the best way is I have a platform that my wife and
I created back on Earth Day Idon't know if it was three years
ago or two years ago, but itwas on Earth Day, that's when we
launched it and it's calledhaveempathyandlovecom and
basically I wanted to do aplatform where people can talk
about anything they want to.

(56:52):
No one's going to ban you,because that was happening to
all my cool holistic friends onFacebook.
They would come out of Facebook.
I'm back, you know, and so Ijust was like man, what like?
They're really screening us andwe're like providing really
good information, and so forpeople who love holistic health
or they provide holistic health,have empathy and love is the
place to go and it's free tojoin, and so in there you can

(57:14):
find me.
You can just inbox me and sayhey, you know, I heard your
podcast with Hannah and I canoffer you a free session.
If you've never done the bodycode before with me, I do offer
a complimentary session for youone person in the household, and
then also I do announcements onmy group healings there too, so
you can kind of stay updated.

(57:35):
And, and the last thing is, onSundays, you get a free healing
for you and your family.
So I really care about this ideacalled Zion, which is like one
heart, one mind and just forfamilies to be united, a place
so spiritual that the creator,if it did come, the career did
come down.
It wouldn't be to do work withyou, it'd be like just to rest

(57:57):
with you and to like enjoy yourcompany.
And so I'm I'm very big on thatbig picture of Zion homes and
so on Sundays I was kind ofgiven this information from
above is like never charge forthis Sunday grounding healing
that goes from 8am to 8pm, andI've never charged ever.
So it's kind of like it's justfree for the family.
The spouse gets healing, thekid gets healing, everyone in

(58:19):
that home does.
So you get 52 healings a yearjust for being there on that
platform.
So yeah, that's.
The best place to find me ishaveempathyandlovecom.
Or if that voice scan soundsinteresting to you with my wife,
which she does, you with mywife, which she does, you can
always inbox her.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Her name is Jessica Zavaios and you can just inbox
her when you get to heal Lovethat, yeah, highly recommend
trying the the voice scan aswell.
It's very a cool experience andreally fun to listen to.
All right, emmanuel.
Last question If you'restanding on a platform and you
had a minute to share anymessage in the world, what would
you share?

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Take some time to learn about how deep you truly
are.
If we're created in the imageof the creator, doesn't it make
sense for us to examine who wereally are?
Whether, again, it's regressionhypnotherapy, whether it's
energy healing, whether it'sgroup healing, or whatever you

(59:21):
do is to make sure that you makeyou like finding out who you
really are as a priority, andthen everything else in your
life just starts to work out.
It's sometimes you have to gointo the cave and then just kind
of do your healing and thencome out differently, and I
honor that.
Wherever you are, whoever'slistening, if you're struggling
with an addiction, if you'restruggling with relationships,

(59:44):
if you're struggling with money,just know that it's probably
not all.
Those energies are even yours.
You probably absorbed it, youprobably inherited it.
That's good news for you.
That's like be easy on yourselfand just do the healing and
then you can change your life ina year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
That has been such a truth in my life.
The more and more that I'velearned about myself and how I
am created and what works for meand what doesn't work for me,
the more life just flows, thehappier I've been, the more
confident, but not that forcedconfidence.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
You know there's a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
The less that I care about what other people think,
and so many things, so manybenefits.
You're never going to lose.
Learning about yourself.
You'll never lose, thank you.
Thank you so much for coming on.
It was such a beautifulconversation.
I appreciate your time.
Thank you, thank you so muchfor coming on.
It was such a beautifulconversation.
I appreciate your time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Thank you for having me here.

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