October 21, 2023 • 14 mins
Ever wondered how to pick the best windows and doors for your home? Well, we've got all the answers! Join us as we decode the world of windows and doors. We kick off with a fun discussion about modern and traditional styles, and offer tips on how to discern your personal preferences. We take the conversation further by comparing aluminum and vinyl windows, examining aspects such as cost and customization. And remember, always pay attention to your HOA regulations and local building codes!
In the latter part of our chat, we shed light on window glass grades. Uncover the secrets of their strengths, the benefits of soundproofing and the value of energy efficiency. The current political climate can greatly affect supply and delivery times, and we delve into the implications of that. Vendor selection is equally critical and we spill the beans on the pros and cons of various options. From choosing the right color frames to selecting the perfect front door, we've got your back. Tune in for an enlightening conversation that not only helps you stay within budget but also enhances the beauty of your abode. Trust us, you won't look at windows and doors the same way again!
For more information call us: (954)667-3JTM or
Email us: jeff@JTMwindowsanddoors.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the JTM Windows podcast.
Designed to impress, engineeredto endure.
Here's your host, jeffTrappanyese.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
One and welcome to Episode number three, the JTM
Windows podcast.
I'm your co-host, Jeremy Wolf.
I'm joined by your host, JeffTrappanyese.
Jeff, how's it going, brother?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's going very good.
Welcome back everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, we were just talking about some customer
preparation.
We're considering window anddoor projects and we're going
over the budgeting aspect whatto do prior to even calling a
contractor.
But we move along here and talka little bit about style and
product considerations when itcomes to window and door project
(00:51):
.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah.
So we figured out how much wehave to spend.
Now we have to figure outwhat's our style.
What do we want to do with ourhouse?
Again, a lot of homes in theBroward and South Palm Beach
area are been around for anumber of years.
The style of the architectoriginally may not be what you
like now.
So the first tip that I have todetermining what your
decorative style is going to beis drive around some
(01:13):
neighborhoods.
See what your neighbors have,see what catches your eye, say I
like that, I don't like that,this is not what I want to go
with.
I think that's one of the besttypes of showrooms that you can
do, as opposed to just going andlooking at a product in a
warehouse and say, oh well, thislooks nice.
You can actually see on similarhome styles what you have in
(01:34):
the area, those types of things.
I've broken down to basicallytwo different styles.
There's a modern style andthere's a traditional style.
Modern styles tend to show moreglass than the more traditional.
Examples of that are likehorizontal rolling windows.
So instead of the windows goingup and down, they go side to
side.
A lot of times you see a majordifference on that when you take
(01:56):
two windows, two up and downwindows or single hung windows
that are side by side, and youput one horizontal roller in its
place, so now you have two bigpieces of glass in that place
and it really makes a hugedifference.
Obviously, sliding glass doorsversus French doors tend to make
it look more modern, cleanerlines casements, which are a
(02:18):
solid piece of window that openson a hinge, so instead of going
up and down, it opens outward.
They're very similar to picturewindows, where you don't have
any seams in the middle, wheretwo pieces of glass have to meet
.
It's one big window, so ittends to open up things quite a
bit more and make it lookcleaner.
(02:39):
With lines, especially thelines of the home, the
traditional style you get intois more that has grids on it.
A lot of times a lot of peopleare really getting away from
that now.
But one of the considerationsthat we have to think about is
what does your HOA require?
If you live in those types ofcommunities, they may say no,
you have to have the grid ones.
(02:59):
Yeah, you have to have the gridones.
So.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I don't know why you'd want that.
I mean, I guess it's playerdependent, if you will.
But why would you want to haveyour view obstructed by grids
when you could have it?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Some people like those styles, so two each.
And they get the same thing withFrench doors versus sliding
glass doors.
And one of the reasons why Ifeel that's traditional is
especially when we're doing alot of entertaining on our back
patios and things like that, andwhen you're dealing with French
doors you have these doors thatkind of open up into the space
(03:30):
versus the sliding glass doorwhich goes side to side, so that
can get a little intrusive intothat entertaining space,
especially if you have a smallerpatio where people are going to
have to walk around it, thingslike that.
So again, I feel that's kind ofwhat more of the traditional
style.
And then, lastly, you havewhite frames, bronze frames and
black frames.
You know bronze and black tendto give you a lot of pop on the
(03:54):
house, especially if you have acontrasting paint color.
So those kind of get loopedinto modern looks.
White is also, you know,depending what the tent that you
go with it, it can also bemodern.
But you know you got to kind ofthink about what fits your bill,
whether it's the white cleanChristmas or, if you like, the
(04:15):
pop of the darker colors,especially when you're looking
at what your gutters look likeor your roof looks like, where
you're picking up on some ofthose accents on the home.
So those are all things to lookaround.
But again, the gist of thestory here for that is again
drive around your neighborhoodsand neighborhoods in your
general area and see what peoplehave been putting in and what
it looks like and what reallycatches your eye, especially
(04:36):
with when we get into frontdoors.
You know there's a lot of new,new products out there, both
aluminum and fiberglass, thathave a lot of different styles
on there.
So you kind of want to thinkabout what you like.
Some people like those big,huge handles, which are great.
I think they look very nice,you know.
But again, functionality andbudget are also dependent on
those those things as well.
(04:57):
So, all right, now we're underproduct selection, now we kind
of got a style.
Now we got to talk about thedifferences.
We have the main, the mainstyle differences that you see
with windows is there's aluminumwindows and there's vinyl
windows.
There's a lot of talk whenyou're dealing with a lot of
sales guys about the benefits ofvinyl they're cleaner, they
(05:20):
don't ever lose their color,yada, yada, yada.
What I tend to find is thatvinyl products, which again are
made out of PVC, in essence are30% more expensive than aluminum
windows and you are sacrificingstrength.
And what I mean by that is whenyou're dealing with a vinyl
frame of a window, superflexible, the moves around a lot
(05:45):
.
You know it's not as rigid aswhat you're going to see with
aluminum.
What the manufacturers have todo in order to make the window
strong enough for hurricane codeis actually use three pieces of
glass versus two for analuminum window.
So in essence, you're alwaysgoing to get an insulated window
with a little with vinyl,because they have to make the
window stronger overall.
(06:05):
So, long story short, I'm not ahuge fan of vinyl, but the one
benefit they do have overaluminum is that you know any
metal that you deal with doestend to absorb some heat.
That can then transfer intoyour house If you have a full
sun on the house, things likethat, even with low e glass.
On aluminum, when you'redealing with a darker frame,
(06:27):
like like bronze, sometimes itcan radiate heat and where that
would stop with vinyl, but thatwould be the only major benefit
I would recommend of the two, Ithink for the strength of frame
and the strength of what you get, or the rigidity of everything
on aluminum frames is much, muchbetter.
(06:48):
Now, same thing applies forentry doors.
When you're dealing with eitherfiberglass or steel entry doors
, a lot of people say, oh well,I've had steel for a long time,
which basically what steel is isjust a steel skin over an
interior of either balsa, woodor or, or sometimes in essence,
(07:09):
cardboard.
That's what a lot of those olddoors that we've had now are are
are made of, and you then youhave like a wood frame for the
jam itself.
That's why they always tend torot or rust and go away.
When you're seeing a fiberglassdoor, the whole panel of the
door, as well as the jam, iscompletely made of a composite
material that is insect proof,waterproof, you know, rock proof
(07:33):
those types of things andthey're much more durable.
So when you see a pricedifference between the two, well
, why is it so much moreexpensive?
Well, you are buying a muchbetter quality product that's
going to last you two to threetimes as long as what you're
going to pay for with the steeldoor.
So, again, things to think aboutthat maybe we don't consider,
and that goes back to short termversus long term term
(07:55):
investment and that type ofstuff.
The third thing to think about,too, is how long are things
taking to come in?
What are the lead times on theproduct?
You know, as opposed to when doI have to do my project?
As it stands right now, thelongest lead times that we have
are for sliding glass doors,which are running about 11 to 12
weeks, which isn't bad.
(08:15):
That number is going to comedown as we come out of season
into, you know, getting intoDecember or January.
So if you're looking to get theproject done before hurricane
seasons here, you don't want towait till the month before
hurricane season to say, oh, I'mready, let's go where it's
going to.
It could take up to two tothree months for some of this
product to come in, sodefinitely something to think
about as well.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, quick question for you about the window, the
glass, the grade of glass forthe windows.
I remember in my in the oldhome I had we did, we did
replace the sliding glass doorsand they put the like missile
grade impact.
It was glass.
I knew nothing about it, I justI was.
That sounds great to me, likewhat are some considerations to
take into account?
Like what?
What level is there a standardlevel that you recommend for all
(08:58):
clients?
Do you recommend a thickerlevel depending on other factors
?
How does that typically work?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
So the main difference you see between
what's existing for signingglass doors, which is what they
call a single pane or one singlepiece of glass that's inside
the frame of the signing glassdoor, hurricane impact glass is
a minimum is going to be twopieces of glass that are
laminated together with a pieceof vinyl in between.
So you're automaticallyincreasing the strength of the
(09:26):
door in that way.
So a lot of people that've beenaround the floor a long time
have gone through a storm Ifthey've ever not put a
protective barrier on top of thesigning glass door and seen the
wind push on their signingglass door glass, it actually
bows in.
I think bow in as much as aninch.
The good news is it's temperedglass so it's relatively strong,
but that's how much windpressure is happening on the
(09:48):
door.
So they make for signing glassdoors they make 716 is kind of
the entry level, so a little bitover, a little bit, just shy of
half an inch thick.
Then they get into 1316.
And then you can get as much aslike an inch, an inch and 16.
Again, I don't feel that whatwe're dealing with down here you
(10:09):
need to get into that 1316, oneinch thick glass.
It's not not going to gain youanything Because, again, it's
all being kind of held in thescrews.
The only thing I would say isthe thicker the glass, the more
sound reduction that you tend tofind.
So if you have a very noisyneighbor and you want to kind of
start to drown out some of thatnoise that you may hear in the
middle of the night, then thethicker glass is going to help
(10:32):
that, or even getting into whatthey call insulated glass, where
there's a gas between.
So then, insulated glass, youend up having two panes of glass
and then you have a gas voidand then you have a third piece
of glass.
But again, that's, that's atopic for another day.
The main thing I would probablytell you is that 716 is a great
(10:53):
product to start with, and thenyou start pumping it up from
there, more so with the windows.
The base point is going to be516.
I always go with arecommendation of 716, because,
again, while both of them aregoing to be rated for 175 mile
per hour winds, the 716 givesyou a lot of ancillary benefits
(11:14):
as well, like sound reductionand things like that, more
insulating factors as well.
So again, there's a lot ofnumbers out there, but once you
start talking to some of thevendors it'll make sense.
You'll have to remember thosenames.
And then last thing would beagain, energy efficiency.
You know keeping what a lot ofpeople from the Northeast are
(11:34):
very sad against why you have tohave insulated, insulated,
insulated glass, because theywant to keep the heat in the
house.
Especially when you're talkingabout a major differential of
the house that you're keeping itas in the 70s and the outside
as it's the 20s.
That's a huge heat differentialthat you have to overcome and
that's where insulated glasscomes in me.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Here we're trying to keep the heat outside the house,
correct, correct.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So I think the best investment there is what you do
with the tinting options thatyou have available to you.
What low e in essence is, andthe big term that's out there is
it's a metallic finish on theoutside of the glass that
reflects the infrared heat ofthe light, which is not visible,
but that's what produces theheat coming in the house.
(12:15):
It reflects about 80 to 85% ofit right back out before it even
comes through that piece ofglass.
So, versus like a normal graytint and things like that.
So those are all importantconsiderations and again, that
can affect the budget as well.
Obviously, the more taint youput on it can bump it up per
window, but nothing significant.
You're probably talking onaverage about $50 a window.
(12:36):
So, and then just to kind ofcircle back around when picking
a vendor of window and door likeI'm a big proponent of PGT and
CGI and Eco because they're madein the state of Florida,
they're made in the country here, versus some other brands that
(12:56):
are made like in Colombia orChina, things like that.
One of the biggest problems Ihave is again just coming out of
COVID.
Reports were shut down andthings like that.
Now we're dealing withpolitical situations where ports
can get shut down again.
If you're waiting on a part oryou're waiting on your window
order for something to eithership out of a port or to come
(13:18):
into one of our ports, that canhold you up very significantly
on top of a lead time that youweren't anticipating, where, if
it's just coming from the WestCoast of Florida or from Medley
or some part of Miami, that's amuch quicker lead time, and if
you need parts, you can get aturn around time much faster.
So also things to think aboutas well.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Very good stuff, All useful information.
Jeff, you are a wealth ofknowledge.
We will get into contractorselection on another segment.
Everyone thank you for tuningin and we will catch you next
time on the JTM Windows podcast.
Take care.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Thanks everyone for joining.
All right Bye.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Thank you for listening to the JTM Windows
podcast.
For more information, contact954-667-3JTN that's 954-667-3586
or email us at jeff atJTMwindowsanddoorscom.
Welcome to the JTM Windows podcast.
Designed to impress, engineeredto endure.
Here's your host, jeffTrappanyese.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
One and welcome to Episode number three, the JTM
Windows podcast.
I'm your co-host, Jeremy Wolf.
I'm joined by your host, JeffTrappanyese.
Jeff, how's it going, brother?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's going very good.
Welcome back everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, we were just talking about some customer
preparation.
We're considering window anddoor projects and we're going
over the budgeting aspect whatto do prior to even calling a
contractor.
But we move along here and talka little bit about style and
product considerations when itcomes to window and door project
(00:51):
.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah.
So we figured out how much wehave to spend.
Now we have to figure outwhat's our style.
What do we want to do with ourhouse?
Again, a lot of homes in theBroward and South Palm Beach
area are been around for anumber of years.
The style of the architectoriginally may not be what you
like now.
So the first tip that I have todetermining what your
decorative style is going to beis drive around some
(01:13):
neighborhoods.
See what your neighbors have,see what catches your eye, say I
like that, I don't like that,this is not what I want to go
with.
I think that's one of the besttypes of showrooms that you can
do, as opposed to just going andlooking at a product in a
warehouse and say, oh well, thislooks nice.
You can actually see on similarhome styles what you have in
(01:34):
the area, those types of things.
I've broken down to basicallytwo different styles.
There's a modern style andthere's a traditional style.
Modern styles tend to show moreglass than the more traditional.
Examples of that are likehorizontal rolling windows.
So instead of the windows goingup and down, they go side to
side.
A lot of times you see a majordifference on that when you take
(01:56):
two windows, two up and downwindows or single hung windows
that are side by side, and youput one horizontal roller in its
place, so now you have two bigpieces of glass in that place
and it really makes a hugedifference.
Obviously, sliding glass doorsversus French doors tend to make
it look more modern, cleanerlines casements, which are a
(02:18):
solid piece of window that openson a hinge, so instead of going
up and down, it opens outward.
They're very similar to picturewindows, where you don't have
any seams in the middle, wheretwo pieces of glass have to meet
.
It's one big window, so ittends to open up things quite a
bit more and make it lookcleaner.
(02:39):
With lines, especially thelines of the home, the
traditional style you get intois more that has grids on it.
A lot of times a lot of peopleare really getting away from
that now.
But one of the considerationsthat we have to think about is
what does your HOA require?
If you live in those types ofcommunities, they may say no,
you have to have the grid ones.
(02:59):
Yeah, you have to have the gridones.
So.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I don't know why you'd want that.
I mean, I guess it's playerdependent, if you will.
But why would you want to haveyour view obstructed by grids
when you could have it?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Some people like those styles, so two each.
And they get the same thing withFrench doors versus sliding
glass doors.
And one of the reasons why Ifeel that's traditional is
especially when we're doing alot of entertaining on our back
patios and things like that, andwhen you're dealing with French
doors you have these doors thatkind of open up into the space
(03:30):
versus the sliding glass doorwhich goes side to side, so that
can get a little intrusive intothat entertaining space,
especially if you have a smallerpatio where people are going to
have to walk around it, thingslike that.
So again, I feel that's kind ofwhat more of the traditional
style.
And then, lastly, you havewhite frames, bronze frames and
black frames.
You know bronze and black tendto give you a lot of pop on the
(03:54):
house, especially if you have acontrasting paint color.
So those kind of get loopedinto modern looks.
White is also, you know,depending what the tent that you
go with it, it can also bemodern.
But you know you got to kind ofthink about what fits your bill,
whether it's the white cleanChristmas or, if you like, the
(04:15):
pop of the darker colors,especially when you're looking
at what your gutters look likeor your roof looks like, where
you're picking up on some ofthose accents on the home.
So those are all things to lookaround.
But again, the gist of thestory here for that is again
drive around your neighborhoodsand neighborhoods in your
general area and see what peoplehave been putting in and what
it looks like and what reallycatches your eye, especially
(04:36):
with when we get into frontdoors.
You know there's a lot of new,new products out there, both
aluminum and fiberglass, thathave a lot of different styles
on there.
So you kind of want to thinkabout what you like.
Some people like those big,huge handles, which are great.
I think they look very nice,you know.
But again, functionality andbudget are also dependent on
those those things as well.
(04:57):
So, all right, now we're underproduct selection, now we kind
of got a style.
Now we got to talk about thedifferences.
We have the main, the mainstyle differences that you see
with windows is there's aluminumwindows and there's vinyl
windows.
There's a lot of talk whenyou're dealing with a lot of
sales guys about the benefits ofvinyl they're cleaner, they
(05:20):
don't ever lose their color,yada, yada, yada.
What I tend to find is thatvinyl products, which again are
made out of PVC, in essence are30% more expensive than aluminum
windows and you are sacrificingstrength.
And what I mean by that is whenyou're dealing with a vinyl
frame of a window, superflexible, the moves around a lot
(05:45):
.
You know it's not as rigid aswhat you're going to see with
aluminum.
What the manufacturers have todo in order to make the window
strong enough for hurricane codeis actually use three pieces of
glass versus two for analuminum window.
So in essence, you're alwaysgoing to get an insulated window
with a little with vinyl,because they have to make the
window stronger overall.
(06:05):
So, long story short, I'm not ahuge fan of vinyl, but the one
benefit they do have overaluminum is that you know any
metal that you deal with doestend to absorb some heat.
That can then transfer intoyour house If you have a full
sun on the house, things likethat, even with low e glass.
On aluminum, when you'redealing with a darker frame,
(06:27):
like like bronze, sometimes itcan radiate heat and where that
would stop with vinyl, but thatwould be the only major benefit
I would recommend of the two, Ithink for the strength of frame
and the strength of what you get, or the rigidity of everything
on aluminum frames is much, muchbetter.
(06:48):
Now, same thing applies forentry doors.
When you're dealing with eitherfiberglass or steel entry doors
, a lot of people say, oh well,I've had steel for a long time,
which basically what steel is isjust a steel skin over an
interior of either balsa, woodor or, or sometimes in essence,
(07:09):
cardboard.
That's what a lot of those olddoors that we've had now are are
are made of, and you then youhave like a wood frame for the
jam itself.
That's why they always tend torot or rust and go away.
When you're seeing a fiberglassdoor, the whole panel of the
door, as well as the jam, iscompletely made of a composite
material that is insect proof,waterproof, you know, rock proof
(07:33):
those types of things andthey're much more durable.
So when you see a pricedifference between the two, well
, why is it so much moreexpensive?
Well, you are buying a muchbetter quality product that's
going to last you two to threetimes as long as what you're
going to pay for with the steeldoor.
So, again, things to think aboutthat maybe we don't consider,
and that goes back to short termversus long term term
(07:55):
investment and that type ofstuff.
The third thing to think about,too, is how long are things
taking to come in?
What are the lead times on theproduct?
You know, as opposed to when doI have to do my project?
As it stands right now, thelongest lead times that we have
are for sliding glass doors,which are running about 11 to 12
weeks, which isn't bad.
(08:15):
That number is going to comedown as we come out of season
into, you know, getting intoDecember or January.
So if you're looking to get theproject done before hurricane
seasons here, you don't want towait till the month before
hurricane season to say, oh, I'mready, let's go where it's
going to.
It could take up to two tothree months for some of this
product to come in, sodefinitely something to think
about as well.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, quick question for you about the window, the
glass, the grade of glass forthe windows.
I remember in my in the oldhome I had we did, we did
replace the sliding glass doorsand they put the like missile
grade impact.
It was glass.
I knew nothing about it, I justI was.
That sounds great to me, likewhat are some considerations to
take into account?
Like what?
What level is there a standardlevel that you recommend for all
(08:58):
clients?
Do you recommend a thickerlevel depending on other factors
?
How does that typically work?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
So the main difference you see between
what's existing for signingglass doors, which is what they
call a single pane or one singlepiece of glass that's inside
the frame of the signing glassdoor, hurricane impact glass is
a minimum is going to be twopieces of glass that are
laminated together with a pieceof vinyl in between.
So you're automaticallyincreasing the strength of the
(09:26):
door in that way.
So a lot of people that've beenaround the floor a long time
have gone through a storm Ifthey've ever not put a
protective barrier on top of thesigning glass door and seen the
wind push on their signingglass door glass, it actually
bows in.
I think bow in as much as aninch.
The good news is it's temperedglass so it's relatively strong,
but that's how much windpressure is happening on the
(09:48):
door.
So they make for signing glassdoors they make 716 is kind of
the entry level, so a little bitover, a little bit, just shy of
half an inch thick.
Then they get into 1316.
And then you can get as much aslike an inch, an inch and 16.
Again, I don't feel that whatwe're dealing with down here you
(10:09):
need to get into that 1316, oneinch thick glass.
It's not not going to gain youanything Because, again, it's
all being kind of held in thescrews.
The only thing I would say isthe thicker the glass, the more
sound reduction that you tend tofind.
So if you have a very noisyneighbor and you want to kind of
start to drown out some of thatnoise that you may hear in the
middle of the night, then thethicker glass is going to help
(10:32):
that, or even getting into whatthey call insulated glass, where
there's a gas between.
So then, insulated glass, youend up having two panes of glass
and then you have a gas voidand then you have a third piece
of glass.
But again, that's, that's atopic for another day.
The main thing I would probablytell you is that 716 is a great
(10:53):
product to start with, and thenyou start pumping it up from
there, more so with the windows.
The base point is going to be516.
I always go with arecommendation of 716, because,
again, while both of them aregoing to be rated for 175 mile
per hour winds, the 716 givesyou a lot of ancillary benefits
(11:14):
as well, like sound reductionand things like that, more
insulating factors as well.
So again, there's a lot ofnumbers out there, but once you
start talking to some of thevendors it'll make sense.
You'll have to remember thosenames.
And then last thing would beagain, energy efficiency.
You know keeping what a lot ofpeople from the Northeast are
(11:34):
very sad against why you have tohave insulated, insulated,
insulated glass, because theywant to keep the heat in the
house.
Especially when you're talkingabout a major differential of
the house that you're keeping itas in the 70s and the outside
as it's the 20s.
That's a huge heat differentialthat you have to overcome and
that's where insulated glasscomes in me.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Here we're trying to keep the heat outside the house,
correct, correct.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So I think the best investment there is what you do
with the tinting options thatyou have available to you.
What low e in essence is, andthe big term that's out there is
it's a metallic finish on theoutside of the glass that
reflects the infrared heat ofthe light, which is not visible,
but that's what produces theheat coming in the house.
(12:15):
It reflects about 80 to 85% ofit right back out before it even
comes through that piece ofglass.
So, versus like a normal graytint and things like that.
So those are all importantconsiderations and again, that
can affect the budget as well.
Obviously, the more taint youput on it can bump it up per
window, but nothing significant.
You're probably talking onaverage about $50 a window.
(12:36):
So, and then just to kind ofcircle back around when picking
a vendor of window and door likeI'm a big proponent of PGT and
CGI and Eco because they're madein the state of Florida,
they're made in the country here, versus some other brands that
(12:56):
are made like in Colombia orChina, things like that.
One of the biggest problems Ihave is again just coming out of
COVID.
Reports were shut down andthings like that.
Now we're dealing withpolitical situations where ports
can get shut down again.
If you're waiting on a part oryou're waiting on your window
order for something to eithership out of a port or to come
(13:18):
into one of our ports, that canhold you up very significantly
on top of a lead time that youweren't anticipating, where, if
it's just coming from the WestCoast of Florida or from Medley
or some part of Miami, that's amuch quicker lead time, and if
you need parts, you can get aturn around time much faster.
So also things to think aboutas well.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Very good stuff, All useful information.
Jeff, you are a wealth ofknowledge.
We will get into contractorselection on another segment.
Everyone thank you for tuningin and we will catch you next
time on the JTM Windows podcast.
Take care.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Thanks everyone for joining.
All right Bye.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Thank you for listening to the JTM Windows
podcast.
For more information, contact954-667-3JTN that's 954-667-3586
or email us at jeff atJTMwindowsanddoorscom.
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