#243 | Adrenochrome Unveiled with Paranoid American - Juan on Juan

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joined the telegram, call into the show. Oh, I haven't
done a call in show in a minute. I haven't
really been plugging it all that much. But I think
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six four six zero six. Call in, let us know
what you think about this episode. Call me to tell
me I'm gay or a shill or something whatever. Who cares?
But joining us today is the one, the only shill
Master himself, the paranoid American, the gayest of the gays.

(02:38):
What's up, dude?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I made you say that. You probably don't even realize that,
but I implanted shill Master into your head, did you
I did? Yeah? I was. I was saying it quietly
before we started, and you said it. So it worked.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh I fell for your trap.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
You've hitting yu gi oh trap card. So before we
get into it, dude, where can people find your work,
your podcast, your YouTube channel, anything you want to plug?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Just go to Paranoid American dot com We got comics
and toys and stickers and all that stuff, and I
got a podcast. So I guess if you're listening to podcasts,
just search for Paranoid American and it'll come up right on.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
And for those listening right now on the RSS feed
or I'm probably gonna do like a little intro on
YouTube for this, but this will more than likely ninety
nine point eight percent chance will not make it on
YouTube because of what we're going to be talking about today.
We're gonna be talking about adrenochrome, so I might have

(03:38):
to even censor that for the intro for the YouTube.
So if you're listening to this, and make sure to
check out the link if you want to watch the video,
because Thomas is going to be doing a presentation and
he's also gonna be snorting adrenochrome live for us today.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Now that's for my on your show. Well you cut
out there, dude, I'm doing that on my Patreon. I'm
not doing that.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well, okay, you shill all right. Anyways, if you want
to watch this video, it's probably not going to be
on YouTube. It's going to be on Rumble, So go
check it out on there. And again welcome. So where
do you want to begin, Thomas, because this is a
topic that I remember I called you. I don't know
what I had called you for, and I was asking.
I was like, so what is in the actual cause?

(04:27):
Right now, people are all you can go on Google
and search adrenochrome and you can buy some of it
on there, right, Like, that's the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
But then, why didn't I think of that? Geez, I've
been all this time. I had no idea you could
just go online and search for a word and click
on random links.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well, that's what we're gonna talk about today. What is
the stuff online that they're selling? What is the real stuff?
Where did this begin? Is it fake? Is it gay?
Is it fake and gay? Where do we start? Dude?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I guess I'll start with if anyone can get a
hold of real pure adrenochrome, reach out to me. I
will do it live on a live stream. Got no
qualms about it, But don't send that fake Ali express
Ali Baba powdered red salt stuff. And yeah it technically

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it's a drenochrome, but it's believe it's a variation called
semi carbazochrome, which means they mix it with a salt
to make it shelf stable. But when you do that,
it loses all of its sort of like psychedelic properties.
So it's just a waste of time and money and
effort for everybody.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
So let's see here we go here, let's go shopping.
You can you can get a dreno tone for.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Ye. Well, so it does matter, so the letters have
it has to be adrean of chrome and not some
other branded derivative of it. And if you just search
for you know, Ali Express or something, probably find some
of the advertisements for it. They have them in laboratories

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here in the States too, So I've followed these things
all the way to their logical ends, every single link
anyone's ever sent me here. The main issue you run
into is that they're going to ask you for lab credentials.
So I have gotten confirmed from a DEA agent that
these are A drenochrome is not a federally scheduled substance,

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so it's not a felony. The DEA will not come
after you for having or possessing or even sending a drenochrome,
but the fact that you have to have lab credentials
in order to get it. That makes a little bit
dicey for the people that have that access, because usually
to get lab access you have to sign some version

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of a hippocratic oath that says, you know, do no harm.
And I think that if someone were to go to
your boss, if you've got one of these lab passes
and said, hey, your employee just use their credentials to
buy a drenochrome for some weirdo conspiracy theorist to snort
on a live stream, that might put their job in jeopardy.
But it is not a legal jeopardy. So let me

(07:21):
just make that very clear. If you can get access
to real adrenochrome, I'm here for it. I will do it.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
So the fact that you need and do they say
why because it's a control Is it a controlled substance
of sort? Is it on some sort of Am I
going to be on a list now for googling this stuff?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Or what I mean? Those two things don't have to
be related to be true. Yes, but I think that
you don't necessarily need LAB credentials. Is just the only
place you can get most of a drenochrome in a
pure form that would actually be psychedelic in some capacity.
The only places that really you can get it from

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would be labs, so they just have a blanket policy.
They don't just interact with normal consumers, they interact with labs,
so they would send it to you if you've got
those kind of credentials. It sorts out the riff raff,
I think, but I've got confirmation. And that also doesn't
state to the laws very single state. It's very possible
that there are other states out there that explicitly list

(08:25):
adrenochrome as being some kind of a banned substance. But
again it's it's outside the purview of the DEA, and
as far as I'm aware, it's nowhere on Florida legislation.
So it gets complicated. And the reason that I looked
this far into is because someone did reach out to
me on Twitter. I had a post that went viral,
got like fifteen million views, and there was, you know,

(08:47):
a self proclaimed scientist, big NASA shill, and he said, well, hey,
you know, put up or shut up, I can get
you adrenochrome. So then I was like, oh man, what happened?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Wait what you asked for in that post? Were you
because I think I did see it, but were you
asking people for it.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
No, definitely not. Someone was just trying to make that point. Look,
any any idiot can just order it online. Whyn't you
just do it? So then I had to like put
all my toys down and explain it very slowly to
this you know scientist too, know that semi carbazochrome. And
even if you do send me the link, I've called
those companies, I've wrote them, the emails I've done, I've

(09:24):
jumped through all the hoops, and then it always ends
up with that lab credentials. Well, I've got lab credentials.
So at that point, I was just thinking, logically, if
you know, a cop shows up and we're in the
parking lot of a Walmart and he's handing a drenochrome
over to me and I'm giving him money, does anyone
go to jail? And if so, for how long? And
what laws have we broke in? And can I own

(09:46):
firearms anymore? Like these are real questions that were going
through my head. So I tracked all of that down.
And it's legal, it's legal to possess, it's legal to use.
It's just not a very known drug. And I'm sure if,
like say, I popularized it by doing a live stream
when I was like, well this works. Now everyone's trying
to get it. Uh, maybe that could spur legislation, because

(10:08):
it turns out most of the time they don't like
people having fun with chemicals.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
All right, So for those that haven't heard of adrenal chrome,
let's talk about what it actually is from a chemical stace.
So here we have the the uh, you know, apart
from the conspiracies. Then we can get into the conspiracy stuff.
But can you break it down for us exactly what
it is from a from a chemical standpoint, Not the hey,

(10:38):
they peel the faces off of children and then wear
it and then drink the drift.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's different. That's a that's an extraction process allegedly. So
the chemical of adrenochrome, it's as simple as this. If
you had a pen full of epinephyrine. He had one
of those EpiPens that people get for anaphylactic shock or
beast things or you know, oversies or whatever. This is

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something that it's a clear liquid and it's been used forever.
It's been used for over one hundred years at this point. Now,
if you let it sit for a really long time,
it'll degrade. It'll oxidize and that adrenaline will start to
decompose and turn into adrenochrome. And you can tell if
that's happened because your EpiPen will now have a pink

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que to it. So, in fact, that was one of
the very first names for adrenochrome as people were figuring
out what it was. It was also known as pink
adrenaline because of this effect with the epipen's expiring and
starting to turn pink. So I mean, in its most
basic form, adrenochrome is simply adrenaline that has decomposed, usually

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in the body or out of the body, and slightly
turns into this pink and then a red, and then
maybe a brown and then like a dark black hue,
all depending on how how long it's been exposed at
room temperature to oxygen.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay, and I'm seeing here what you were talking about.
The so it turns here that reddish, pinkish hue.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
And that's what that little window is for on EpiPens.
It's to let you check the color because if it
goes anywhere other than clear, you're supposed to just throw
it out. Now, the reports that were coming in was
I think post world War two, soldiers were reporting hallucinations
in mass, at least in such a consistent way that

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eventually just regular pattern recognition, they realized, oh, when these
EpiPens start to go bad, these soldiers report seeing and
hearing things. It was fairly mild, it went away pretty quickly,
and they still got some of the adrenaline they needed
in the EpiPen, so it was really like, leave those
ones for later. But if you're at war and you

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don't know when the next batch of EpiPens are coming in,
you're taking those pink adrenaline shots because you still need
the leftover epinephrin that's still in them. So this is
where a lot of it sort of started, and it
dovetails into mkulture research. But let me let me stop
there before we get too crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
WHOA Okay, So an EpiPen is adrenaline, So it's you
take it, and then there's people taking it during wars
to get what to get hyped up on the stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
To keep no. No, Typically it's going to be for
some sort of an allergic reaction what people would typic
typically need an EpiPen for. There's also sort of like
biochemical agents that you might run into in warfare, and
this is ways. But yeah, just by doing a straight
injection of epinephrine, you're no longer relying on your body's

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endocrine system to generate a massive amount of adrenaline. It's
just immediately in your system, ready to go right off
the bat. So I mean that the possibilities are somewhat
endless for what you'd use it for. I don't think
it's a known or advocated purpose to like, let's just
get jacked, let's go, let's rush into the battlefield and

(14:05):
come on, guys, everyone hate your EpiPens. It's usually more
of a preventative or like a reactionary use of you
got stung by a bunch of bees or ants or
something again, like an anaphalactic shock kind of deal, I believe.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
And where do they get the adrenaline from these EpiPen
Do they create it or do they harvest it from people? So,
from what I understand, because I'm gonna be clear, do
I know nothing other than the baseline. And this is
why I find it so interesting, because I know nothing
other than the baseline stuff of Hey, they don't deal

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with the regular people. They only deal with the elites
and other accredited labs that are using this stuff, and
that's why you're only able to get it between a
select few people. Right. So that's the only thing that
I know of the frazzle drip, which you said is
an extraction process, and the whole conspiracy video of Hillary
Clinton with what's her name, Uma something or.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Other, Humah Aberdeen, Huma Abedin.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Wasn't she married to Wiener?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah? She was?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
That See that connection there is weird to me.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
And that's where the frazzle drip comes from, because allegedly
it was a folder on his hard drive inside of
another folder called Life Insurance and there was a file
called frazzled dot rip on it, or you could read
it across as frazzle drip. That's the rumor. The rumor
was that it was found on one of Wiener's laptops

(15:31):
and it had a picture of Huma and Hillary taking
some girl's face off, and I guess allegedly using that
process to extract the drip a lot of I mean,
it was like a really dark footage. Apparently it's lost
forever now even though it's a freaking video and nothing
that really gets lost, but it's just like a slender
Man level conspiracy theory folklore at this point, but that's

(15:56):
that's where it comes from. And yeah, it's all related.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, like a creepy pasta lost footage type of thing.
And I love the people who go around online talking
about that they've seen it, like oh, I've seen I
remember seeing this back and blah blah blah. It's like, oh,
so you're admitting to what because wasn't it like a
kid that they were doing that too? Wasn't like yeah,
but I don't I see, I don't.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I didn't see it, and I've only heard like the
stories of people that have seen it, and I don't
believe it was anything overtly sexual. I think it was
just straight up ripping some kid's face off, which I mean,
if you want to classify this pornography, that's out you
than anybody.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
At least child abuse, right right, Yeah, I guess. I
mean if I was, you know, if somebody was to
rip their kids' face off, I would at least want
them put in jail for the rest of their lives
for child abuse and maybe perhaps murder. But and then
the whole connection with Wiener and that allegedly the New
York I think the the head guy there, didn't he

(16:57):
kill himself? And also when they talking about how heinous
it was what they found on that laptop that it
made him like physically throw up.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, I mean that. Where again, we're getting into like
Tim Ballard QAnon level of claims here as to you know,
the specifics of why someone would exit stage left early, uh,
and what they might have seen on this video. Now
we're almost talking about the ring right, like it's a
video and seven days later, you know you will die
almost like a vital destination, Like what can you just

(17:27):
show this video to someone and they turned maybe, But
but before we get too much on a tangent on
the weird Frazzle Drip video and what might may or
may not have been on it. It's a common claim
that comes up in this adrenochrome conspiracy realm that you
somehow have to torture someone specifically like a young kid.

(17:48):
Kid is all right, let's just see what Snope says.
I don't. I can't rest it until I see what
Snope says.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, we can just shut this episode down right, Thank
you guys for tuning in, and this time, yes, this
is over. Fact check dot Org no evidence of horrific
Clinton video. This was twenty eighteen, So I don't.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I mean, I you know me well enough that I'm
probably more of a shill skeptic than most people from
the hip, which is why I think my research on
adrenochrome is more important than many other people. I'll just
say it out loud, because I do come from an
absolute skeptic standpoint. So so let me and you care

(18:30):
about the truth with a capital T, correct, Yeah, the
one that you have to pay money for in Patreon.
But that's the one that I care about.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, And if you're listening to this, then you know
anyone listening right now cares about the truth, the real truth.
We got the capital T. Yeah, with the capital team
not with mine.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Actually has two capital t's in it, the first one
and the one at the end, so it's it's double
it's double capital T truth.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Here you go, pull over screen.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
So so let me let me finish on the note
on this frazzle drip thing. The claim is that you
got a torture a young kid and that somehow their
body produces either more adrenochrome, which doesn't make sense, or
it's more potent, which also doesn't make sense. So let
me let me just NodD those two claims. A to
produce more the size of a child's adrenaline glands that

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are on the top of your kidneys. Interestingly enough, one
is a shape of a pyramid, the other one's a
crescent moon. But these, yeah, that's actually true.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
That's the shape of what. Let me look that up.
Shape of you have.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
You have two adrenal glands. One is on top of
each kidney. On one of your kidneys, your adrenal gland
has a pyramid shape, and on the other kidney that
the adrenal gland looks like a crescent moon. This has
been knowns for since the Middle Ages, since they started
picking people apart and looking for this stuff. I just
learned that now, So so that that is fascinating in

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my mind. You've got a pyramid and a crescent moon
that regulates part of your endocrine system for generating adrenaline
and therefore a dream of But here's one of the
problems with that claim about harvesting it from kids is
that it is incredibly inefficient. So here here's an analogy
though that I like to bring up, is that you

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can go to a fancy restaurant where you spend two
thousand dollars and they just give you these little amuse
bouche entries. Right, they fit the entire meal on one
spoon bite and you eat that bite, and you get
like six of them, and you spend like a thousand
or two thousand dollars. That's not efficient. You're not gonna
keep yourself and your family fed on that. If the

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kids are clamoring because they just got home from soccer practice,
you're not gonna be like, all right, everyone, load up,
we're gonna spend one thousand dollars each on a moose boosh.
But that doesn't mean that people don't sit down and
go to these boutique restaurants and have these world class
Michelin chefs prepare them weird esoteric meals that you know
afterwards they still need to go and get like a

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pizza or something because they're not full from it that,
but they still do that. So, yeah, it's absolutely possible
there's someone out there harvesting adrenaline, specifically from kids, the
same way that you would go to a high end
restaurant or something like an invite only reservation, but at
a massive scale, there's really no reason that you would
want to do that, and you don't need them to

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be alive. There's no real claim of potency, mainly because
adrenochrome is a isolated chemical, so there's it's not like
weed or like tobacco or alcohol where there's like a proof, right,
if you can get pure alcohol just straight like you
get ethanol alcohol, right, that's a very specific kind of

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a chemical substance, and you can get like ninety nine
percent pre or eighty nine percent here, depending on what
you need it for exactly. But a drenochrome, if you're
talking about it in chemical terms, it's just a substance
no different than ethyl ethynyl alcohol. Or someone's not going
to be like how potent is your ethynyol alcohol wealth

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where we both are operating with ninety percent alcohol, then
it's the exact same sort of substance. There's no difference
in potency between that. So I don't think there's any
real claim to fear or childhood or anything would have
to do with a potency. And then finally, where do
they actually get it from. We already have a widespread

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sort of like livestock factory supply chain that's already established
and cows have much larger adrenal glands than people. In fact,
compared to the ratio of all other animals, cows still
have some of the biggest ones. So in the early
nineteen hundreds to nineteen thirties, pretty much all of the
adrenaline and adrenochrome was pretty much coming from animals that

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were already being experimented on. So this would been cows, pigs, rabbits, technically,
anything with an adrenal gland you can get adrenaline from
and therefore adrenochrome. Fish, lizards, babies with their faces torn
off like, these are all potential sources, but they're very
inefficient sources.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
So this would this would make sense as to why
the whole cow abduction phenomenon is right where they go
and they mutilate these cows, but usually they don't. Are
they some are missing organs? Right they touch?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I mean, I guess, But you wouldn't need to abduct
a cow because cows are already part of this massive
sort of like meat packing processing industry we've got in
this country. And I don't think that there's a lot
of chefs out there that are like, give me your
finest adrenal glands. They go perfect with this meal. It's
basically something that would have no other known use except

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for industry research. So, and I'm talking nineteen hundreds, nineteen
thirties now today in twenty twenty five, you can technically
derive adrenaline and a drenochrome by proxy through petrochemicals, meaning
you can take petroleum, you can take rude oil, and
through a series of different chemical steps you could in

(24:05):
theory and provably, there's research that already shows that they've
created epinephrine from petrochemicals. So at that point you can
even have yourself some vegan adrenochrome.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Whoa dude, that that's pretty well. So you would say,
aside from a cow, what is the most efficient animal
or thing to use for adrenochrome? How about a whale?
Has anyone ever done a whale? That's a huge animal.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
It's possible. I just again, like the the amount of
effort it would take to go and hunt down a
whale and then extract the whales adrenal glands and then
process them. You'd probably still have way more luck with
just our existing factory farming output, right.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Adrenal, So yeah, I'm looking for an adrenal gland of
a humpback whale. That'd be crazy. You think this is
what Croley was pointing at with this. It looks like
his little hat that he wears.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
You know, it's not actually a hat. This this is
also a fun fact that that's a robe. It's just
the way that he's wearing the top of his robe
and it has the emblem on it. Everyone thinks that
it's this pyramid hat. It's not. It's a freaking Filama robe,
you know, because you have one, right, I mean, I've
got some custom made yes, nice?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay, okay. So is this perhaps why the petroleum industry
is so big because we have guys right like John D.
Rockefeller who were at the forefront of pushing this industry
that at one point was or is still. I mean,
we use petroleum in all and pretty much all products

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till this day.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Bro Well, the claim here isn't that petroleum was just
a way to get to making adrenochrome. I think it's
more of a case in point that a drenochrome does
not need to be harvested from kids, let alone animals,
and that almost anything we can't essentially synthesize from petrochemicals.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, no, I get what you're saying that, but some
people like it the good old fashioned way, dude, you
know you know what I'm saying, Like they want I
don't want to read my books on a tablet. I
want to read my books physically.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Right, you want to pop a straw right into a
baby's head and suck the adrenochrome right out like a
caprice son.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I'm sure that. Unfortunately, there are some people who are
probably into it. So do you believe in this hole?
Because this is a huge conspiracy, bro, This is like
a he one of the main ones that people really
get into, that the elites are running these pedophilia, child
molestation rings, whatever you want to call it, and that

(26:48):
part of the reason that they do that is to
extract this adrenochrome. Stuff like this is the one of
the holy grails of conspiracies. And I want to just
peel apart the layers to why some people believe it.
And there is some I'm not saying that they're do
you believe that they're doing it?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think that it's very reasonable to think they are
doing something like that, but I think it's unreasonable to
think that the end product of that is because they're
looking for a drenochrome. Yeah, like all of those can
be true, but I don't think it would be the
same things like do you think that going out and
spending one thousand dollars on six spoonfuls of some master

(27:28):
is that because you were hungry? Money's not an issue, right,
But it has nothing to do with your hunger. It
has everything to do with you want to go through
this exclusive experience that feels like you got to live
through something that no one else ever has, or that
only a small number of people, or that somehow it's
going to activate some taste buds that no other meal

(27:50):
has ever activated for you. It's all about expanding your
sort of life experience. So if the question is reframed
as do you think rich people and people that have,
you know, enormous amounts of political and financial capital, do
you think that they do extreme things with their money
to test the limits of like their own life experience

(28:11):
and and sort of like mentality. Yeah, of course people
do that. So it's no crazier than jump It's almost
like take a sip out of this straw in a
baby's head, or jump out of this airplane there's probably
some people that will be like, I'll go with the straw, like,
out of all things being equal, I'll take a little
sip instead of jumping out of a plane. Yet people
do both of those.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
You think this guy's taking a drenochrome.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I don't. Well, I think that that guy probably knows
about some of the research that went into this, specifically
something called the adrenochrome hypothesis, because al Albert Hoffman or
sorry Hoffner, Hoffner actually has a theory. Who is that
that the closer he's he's the guy that Hoffner and

(28:58):
Smithy's are two of the names that put it two
and two together as to pink adrenaline. Was this a
drenochrome stuff? And they started testing a drenochrome specifically for
the first time. We're gonna get into that on this adrenochrome.
That guy you're showing, he's probably aware of some of
that work, because that work talks about how family lines
might have survived the bubonic plague and might have survived

(29:21):
all sorts of other nationwide pandemics, and that might be
related to a drenochrome in a very indirect way.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Sounds kind of racist and anti semitic in some sort
of way.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, well as as all good conspiracy theories should be.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, so whatever, who cares. This guy's a weirdo. He
looks fake, he looks like an AI generated character. And
I think he called his son like, he called him
something weird because he takes his son's plasma. I think
it was.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, you called him blood boys blood Yeah, oh man,
that's so bizarre, dude. There was an episode of the
show Silicon Valley by Mike jo the guy behind Beavis
and Buted, And this is almost a decade old now,
but there was a feature like one of the seasons
kind of focused on this guy, Gavin Belson, who is

(30:11):
I believe was supposed to kind of be like a
Bill Gates character that had a blood boy that would
follow him around he went. He went and found like
a seventeen year old quarterback at a high school, like
some kid that was, you know, getting all the records
and would just pay him money to come over and
just do blood transfusions while they were in and stuff.
So this is not a new concept. This has been

(30:32):
around forever, and you can wind it up back to
like Elizabeth Bathory, which I think I do in this
presentation that.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Like a lady that bathed in the blood.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Of young girls and maids and everything else. So there
there's an interesting I guess the crux of this too,
is that I think the most rational way to look
at a drenochrome. It's almost like a scientific substitute for
blood libel, or for vampirism, or for cannibalism, all of
the super natural elements that are associated usually with drinking

(31:03):
blood or bathing in blood or eating people. If you
were to remove all of the supernatural and like the
religious connotations to that, you kind of have this chemical
adrenochrome that can still represent all of those things, but
without having to believe in ancient Sumerian magic or anything
supernatural at all.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Actually, which, of course blood libel is right speaking of
anti semitic, this is very anti semitic, So be careful
what you say on this episode. Thomas.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well, I thought we're already just on rumble.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
So yeah, oh you're right. Yeah, welcome.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
So it's always, it's always to talk about blood libel
because that's going to be the crux of part of
this presentation. So strap like strap in, buckle up, all right,
let's do it. Strap in strap on, So like this
one is called what is adrenochrome? It was originally put
together for Bohemian Grove, although time constraints and tech strains,

(32:01):
it was limited to like a forty minute version. So
I'll be able to go in a little bit more
detail on this one, do it so? Okay? So here,
let me get rid of all the boring and the
like scientific stuff first, So if anyone wants to look
up anything that I'm talking about, I don't hide my sources.
I don't shoot from the hip. I've I got the
receipts for everything, even the things that I maybe say

(32:23):
and quickly breeze over hit in the comments or whatever.
I have got sources for every single claim made into this.
So nineteen twenty three there was a paper that was
published and they were talking about a deep color of
adrenaline based solutions left at room temperature for twenty four hours.
And this is important that they concluded the more deeply

(32:45):
colored solutions were less active. In other words, adrenochrome breaks
down at room temperature. This is one of the reasons
why you can't just order it online and it shows
up in the mail from China or Boston. Wherever the
hell you got it from it that salted version. I've
got more on this, but it really needs to be aqueous.
It needs to be the second it goes from adrenaline,

(33:07):
goes from clear to slightly pink, you need to have
that store it at negative twenty degrees so that it
no longer decomposes and it stays at that state. So
I'll explain more of that when we get into it.
But here's the very first research paper that I could find.
They don't name it at this point, no one's calling

(33:28):
it adrenochrome, but here's someone observing it actually being synthesized
out of adrenaline. In nineteen twenty three, nineteen thirty four,
this is gonna get fun. The Scottish Rite Supreme Council,
Northern Jurisdiction. They get together and this guy on the
right here he decides the Melvin B. Johnson, he was

(33:51):
the head the thirty third degree Supreme Right Commander Illuminati
confirmed exactly. He he decides that the Scottish Rite has
got all these war chests, they got all this money,
and they want to invest it into something noble that
would align with what Scottish Right believes and what they
ended up targeting was this concept called dementia preycox, which,

(34:15):
if you know what dementia means, this is when grandma
and grandpa gets old and they forget your name, and
maybe it's Alzheimer's, or maybe they're just like wandering around
talking to ghosts. Maybe it turns into schizophrenia. All of
those things combined into one category would have been dementia
prey coocks. But that prey cox part that roughly translates

(34:36):
to like early onset dementia. So what they were interested
in is, Okay, grandma and grandpa start, you know, sun sundowning.
That's something that's been going on since human history. But
if it happens to your twenty year old son or
your twelve year old son, well, now you're concerned because
that that is not as typical. And also it means

(34:57):
that all of the money and the land and the
power that you want to pass down to your kids,
if your kids already schizophrenic and already got dementia, it's
posing a real problem. And this was happening more often,
and especially these elite families that had all this money
and had all these resources. So this is one way
of attacking that let's say, like, let's figure out what

(35:19):
the hell is happening with this dementia precox and see
if we can even figure out a solution for it.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
So the early onset of this a group of mental illnesses,
I guess you could call it, right.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, it's basically skitz a if you just needed to
throw like one label on it. But any anything that
would relate to schizophrenia, Alzheimer's, multiple personality, disassociative identity, dementia,
any sort of mental illness that was persistent would get
thrown under this very massive label of dementia precox.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
But you see how this looks right with the whole
the Scottish right funding this sort of stuff, Well, you
tell me how does it?

Speaker 3 (36:04):
How does it look?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's not a good look because so so.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Let me let me just act like the complete bumpkin
idiot pro Mason here. But I guess on the pro side,
they saw a very real issue that was affecting young
kids and said how can we solve this? And sort
of being mentalists and figuring out how the mind works
itself is kind of their thing. That's kind of what

(36:30):
the Masons and the Scottish rite in particular Yeah, so
this kind of fits directly in their wheelhouse. And Melvin B.
Johnson over here, he figures, if we can make a
dent in this issue, if we can partially solve schizophrenia
or early onset dementia, this dementia praecox, then it would
be a great lasting legacy for how the Masons have improved,

(36:54):
you know, the humankind like you know, forever, if if
we can get some sort of leeway on this one
particular issue that has been plaguing humanity for thousands of
years documented again, and this is.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Part of what a lot of people who are pro Masonic. Hey,
I've heard a lot of the arguments for Masonry is
we help the community. We're actually good people. We're trying
to transform right the quite literally reality in the world
through good things. But then you could see how this
would look for a regular layman person who's blaming the

(37:31):
California fires or the fog or the drones and the illuminati,
Freemasons or.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
A regular layman. Is that a regular a schizophrenic conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I think that a majority of people who are here,
I think that the regular people, and by regular people
talking about people who don't research, and they just read
off a headlines.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
They don't care about the capital T no capital T.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I think that at least ninety percent of them believe
in the Illuminati or something.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
And okay, well pull up that study. That's an interesting one,
that that ninety.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Now let's look it up. Though, let's look it up
because ohd.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
No, funny enough. I actually have that in my presentation
here towards the end, there was a survey that shows
why this particular topic of a dreamo chrome is terrifying
to sort of news organizations.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
All right, so, okay, this is AI so whatever, but
I'm sure I could pull up the link for it.
In a twenty nineteen survey, nine percent of the respondents
strongly believed in the conspiracy theory that the Illuminati secretly
controlled the world. Thirty seven percent of respondents strongly disbelieved
in this theory in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
So nine percent. So we were one and ten. Yeah,
I was only off by by forty percent. Yeah, that's
not a big big deal.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
All right, So this is August twelve, twenty twenty four.
To what extent do you believe in the conspiracy theory
that the Illumini secretly control the world. And this was
is not going to show me. Okay, it's not going
to show me. There was twelve hundred responds. So let's see,
we can download this hold on. I have to sign
up for this stupid thing I.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Want to do. Though, if you believe that Illuminati control
the world, that doesn't also imply that you think that's
good or bad, that it's an afarious thing or not
an afarious thing.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, but I think the wording illuminatis secretly control the world,
I think that gives it already like a sort of
negative connotation, like, oh, who are these people? Why are
they secretly controlling the world?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Maybe, I mean, but you can flip that and say,
do you believe that Freemasons secretly controlled the American Revolution?
And I think that's almost a historical fact at this point,
that's not even conspiracy theory that if there was no
Freemasonry in America, there likely would have not been a
United States of America because all of like even the
culpeper secret sort of plans with Washington. I don't think

(39:58):
any of that would have would have happened. All of
the sons of Liberty that happened in Boston, if you
go and do one of those historical tours, they bring
you to like three or four lodges. Most of them
were just taverns that met after hours, and this is
where they planned on how they would basically start and
continue the American Revolution. So, I mean, just as a
counterpoint to that, a secret group of people unless you

(40:21):
also believe America is evil and never should have existed.
Is that your Is that your impression? Oh?

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I don't know, I wasn't listening to what you just said, right, No,
that's that's normal. So Illuminati twenty three percent according to
a survey this is in twenty sixteen, twenty three percent
of Americans believe in in the Illuminati in the New
World Order. So it's bumped up to twenty three percent,
which is a quarter of the people. I mean, that's
that's all. Well, depending on the size of this survey,
of course, if it's you know, it's a controlled group.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
But yeah, okay, So that's how it looks though, is
that you've got a small group of influential people, yes,
that are controlling the world, and now they are spearheading
this dementia pree Cox research. Sure, yes, so this was
the guy that gets put in charge of this initiative

(41:11):
of looking intomentia. Praecox is a guy named doctor Nolan
Lewis who has some absolutely insane backstory. I won't get
into all the tangents, but he was a consultant at
the Nuremberg War crimes trials where he concluded which Nazis
were sane and which were insane and who could go
through the trial. He was the guy that got to

(41:31):
decide that. He also has a whole lot of research
part of this program that got funded through giving children
meth Like young delinquent kids that were having problems in
school or having behavioral problems would give them meth amphetamine.
And this is where we get Riddlin and all of
the other sort of ADHD drugs. It all comes from

(41:54):
this particular initiative, this dementia precox initiative. It dovetails with
all of that. So adderall and all that stuff correct, adderall, Riddlin,
they're all basically forms of myth. And they used to
give it to just troubled kids and they were like,
oh wow, when we hop these kids up on myth,
they do significantly better in school, way better than placebo
would indicate so.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, I took adderall in high school. I wrote, like,
I don't know how many how long I'm an essay,
I wrote, I wrote an essay, and then I went,
I cleaned my entire house and I changed all the
light bulbs in the house to that day.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
So if you take even more, you can start seeing things.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Well okay, So this guy was also part of that
initial testing of getting kids hooked on this stuff. When
you go and they diagnose your child with adheah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
It's it's a it's a complex story to weave here,
but simplicity it just looks though Thomas and look at it. Well,
so doctor Nolan, yeah, I see how this looks. Doctor
Nolan Lewis, I don't believe was a freemason. He was
funded by Freemasons, and he was the one put in
charge of this entire initiative. I'm not he confirmed. So

(43:09):
here here's where I think the first time the word
adrenochrome gets defined. I mean, there was a few people
that kind of hit on this around the same time.
Like one of these desire forms that are like manifesting
in physical reality, you know, like an idea gets into
one guy's head and he gets into twenty guys heads.
But this is the first documented one that seems the

(43:31):
most credible and US based. So if it's a US scientist,
I give it more credit. Automatically, adrenaline induces a vigorous
oxygen uptake when added in low concentrations. Bab bah bah
bah bah. But he's talking about a red colored oxidation product, adrenochrome.
So here's ninety seven green and Richter paper. They actually

(43:53):
name this adrenochrome. This is the first time that you
see this word anywhere in scientific.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Sort of interesting which acts as a respiration carrier. What
does that mean?

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Well, he's talking about adrenochrome as though it can continue
carrying like oxygen. I assume because adrenaline is oxidized to adrenochrome,
meaning as it's reacting with oxygen, then it continues. I
don't believe that they understood what they were looking at

(44:29):
at this point. This is mostly just the first time
that it gets noticed in a laboratory setting. There was
a slightly earlier observation.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Of this one.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
It was a guy that was doing experiments on rabbits coincidentally,
and he noticed that this clear liquid that was coming
from the adrenals would turn red and then purple as
soon as it hit the air. But he also didn't
give it a name. He just said that it was
changing to this color. So these guys green and Rich
there they come up with the name adrenochrome, which literally

(44:58):
means the color, which is chrome, the color of the adrenals.
So adrena chrome means adrenal color. So that's that's this
observation of this clear liquid turning into a red liquid.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Okay. And cellar respiration is the process by which biological
fuels are broken down in the presence of hydrogen acceptor
such as oxidant, to drive the production of adenocene trifostate ATP,
which stores chemical energy in a biologically accessible form, so
again to kind of speed up the transfer we could

(45:31):
say transfer of energy and cells.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
I mean, well, it's the natural process of your body,
you know, taking this very impotent substance of adrenaline and
then morphing it and changing it into things that.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
It's more useful for, like antiaging.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
There is there is some of that. Actually, there is
some anti Let's let's let's keep going. Let's keep going.
So here's this is one of hundreds of articles but
I just the point I want to prove here is
that adrenochrome this isn't from nineteen forty two. A lot
of people be like, oh, this is just something that
like these doctors knew about, or like no one was

(46:11):
ever talking about this. It only got popular in the
nineteen nineties, or you know, with like like a Fear
and Loathing movie or something that's not true either. This
is from a publication called the Montana Oil and Mining Journal.
It's literally about oil and mining, and yet they have
an article about adrenochrome and a easy chemical reaction turns

(46:34):
adrenaline in test tubes into a dark red powder known
as a drenochrome. It is not in the least poisonous.
It can be synthesized. A drawback is difficulty to make
it keep long. So here even in a magazine article
made for miners, they were reporting on this new substance

(46:55):
called adrenochrome that can't sit out for very long otherwise
it loses its potency. So when people again are like
just ordered on Alibaba, just snort this stuff that you
can order online, like even the miners in nineteen forty
two knew that that wasn't the kind that you wanted.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
So why do they sell the particular powdered form. One
is that to be able to run sort of some
other tests on it, or.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah, it's for easier transport, easier research. If you wanted
to see how adrenochrome, say, reacts to another chemical, then
you can do that without having to keep this oqueous
form at below room temperature levels. And then also there
are plenty of like, not many people see the medical

(47:40):
or practical use in the psychedelic effects of adrenochrome, mainly
because they already have LSD and DMT and psilocybe, and
there's so many others that are more manageable, easier to synthesize,
have probably more potent, more specific effects that you can document.
So adrenochrome is just a lot of work for not

(48:01):
a lot of payoff if you compare it to all
those other options. That's my interpretation of it.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Because you'd have to extract it from the person excreting
the adrenaline, and then you'd have to.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Use it right away for drum and then you got
to like, yeah, then the mess.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
So essentially you'd extract it and then if you were
let that sit for twenty four hours at room temperature,
then that would be the adrenochrome right when it starts
to get ripe, right.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Right, And I think after twenty four hours it's mostly aert.
You're losing almost all of the potency. So really, and
what they do too, is you don't have to just
let it sit out in the air. That would be
a natural way that you could observe this happening, which,
by the way, if you do that, it's a green fluorescence,
meaning that if you turn all the lights off as

(48:48):
adrenaline turns into adrenochrome, it glows freaking green, which is
also wild to even consider. But in the laboratory setting,
even the earlier test, the way they would synthesize a
drenochrome is they would add silver iodide. I believe this adrenaline.
What's up?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
So is Hollywood hiding this and all our all?

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yes, Limer is basically a drenochrome. He's a glowing ball
of a drenochrome.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Dude, it's all making sense, bro.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I'm glad you put I'm glad you put that together.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
We're gonna bust this spide open. That's why you have
one here in your room. I'm onto you, dude.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I just if you notice every once in a while
that it looks like you too. What was another caprice son?
I believe for a high sea box. Right, that was
all about just popping the straw into kids.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
That's all that was about, all right, all right, here
we go, just making connections as we go. All right.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
So in nineteen fifty two, So again, it started in
nineteen thirty fours when the Scottish rey decided to actually
start cutting some checks to look into this a drenochrome issue.
Nineteen fifty two is the first time they get this
comprehensive report. And this is, in my mind, this is
one of the most interesting parts of all the research

(49:59):
I've done it on drenochrome. This is doctor Abram Hoffer,
and he's writing about his frustration with all of his
other colleagues because he says the second controversy controversy which
must be an unusual one in science, is that every
paper published so far on a drenochrome shows that it's

(50:22):
psychologically active and changes behavior in man and animals. That's unequivocal.
He says right there that it is psychologically active and
it causes change in man and animal, and then he
says a curiosity resulted in many who had worked with
a drenochrome provided data it was hallucinogenic, while several who

(50:45):
had not studied a drenochrome insisted it was not.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
So.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
In other words, he's the one that's actually experimenting with
a drenochrome. He's taking it himself, he's giving it to
his friends. He gave it to him, and his friends
would give it to their wives and they would have
house parties and test the drenochrome. They gave it the pigeons,
like seriously makes dogs. Yeah, it's all all fully documented,
the amount that he took, the things that they were seeing.

(51:10):
He had a whole spreadsheet on like who saw what,
who had auditory, who had visual hallucinations. Everything. So this
guy unequivocally is stating it is a hallucinogenic drug. Yet
everyone that he was coming across and his peers in
the scientific realm, they were constantly trying to disprove him.
And when he would ask them where their receipts were,

(51:31):
he's like, look, I got I got the documentation, i'd
got these studies, I got my wife right now, what's that?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
So he's like, you want some right now, brother, we'll
do it right, I know.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
He's telling them, like, I can prove it. I've been
doing it. All the other people that I work with
that have been doing it can all attest to this.
And everyone else that has nothing to do with the drenochrome.
They're not researching it. They're just like, no, that sounds
like BS to me, man, And that's it. And that's
the end of the conversation. And he gets really frustrated
with this because it keeps happening over and over. This

(52:02):
is where I feed into some of the conspiracy, like
what are they suppressing? Well, in nineteen fifty two, we
are already beyond Operation or Project Chatter from the Navy,
which turns into Bluebird, which turns into Art to Choke
and MK Ultra. That ball is rolling. So I'm thinking

(52:23):
that at this time in nineteen fifty two, he releases this,
the military and the OSS and the CIA are already
familiar with all these psychedelic drugs and they're keeping it
under wraps.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Is right before the MK ultrous. So according to this,
Katar began in nineteen fifty three. This is nineteen fifty two.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Right, Yeah, Because because mk Ultra lineage kind of starts
with Project Chatter in the Navy and then Bluebird and
then eventually morphs into Mkulture. And I believe Chatter was
like forty seven or so. I mean, it's basically all
post World War two, and once all this happens, That's
the only thing that makes sense to me after every
thing I've read, is that the reason his colleagues were

(53:03):
denying his research that he had proof of is because
they realized it might have just been a chemical that
slipped through the cracks, or that even more likely because
it's not something that you have to synthesize in a lab.
Like anyone that has adrenaline can potentially have a drenochrome,
and that everyone right now, me and you have a
drenochrome in our blood. So how do you really make

(53:25):
that illegal?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Right?

Speaker 3 (53:26):
How do you make that a controlled substance if it's
already in our blood to begin with?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Okay, do you think that they might have gotten it
from the Nazis?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Got what a drenochrome? Like?

Speaker 2 (53:39):
The concept? So right now, like I'm reading about here,
you have the Edgewood Arsenal human experiments from nineteen forty
eight to nineteen sty.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I think we knew way way before World War Two,
and it didn't require Edgewood arsenal and that's where Frank
Olsen was at, which is one of the things that
bleue mk ultra wide open. What happened is that we
already knew about mescaline because Native Americans used it. You
could order it by mail as late as the eighteen eighties,

(54:09):
I believe directly from all sorts of people across the country.
Adrenaline was first synthesized in a lab in nineteen oh
one by a Japanese guy that I always make his
name up. It's like Takashami or something, but he actually
synthesized it in a lab in New York City, and
from there they start realizing how similar adrenaline is to

(54:32):
mescaline and to a whole host of other psychedelics. So
in that is I think where they already knew. They
already knew that there was potentially a drug that was
derived from adrenaline. And since adrenaline has found the connecting
the dots, there is a way that you could get
something from somebody's blood that would make you have hallucinogenarians.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
This is the stuff that's found in that one.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
What's the peyote.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've known people who have taken
this sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yes, So they're all based on these things called indoles.
Like the simplest version of this is that adrenaline and
mescaline and psilocybin an LSD and even I believe cocaine
and meth, like, all these different drugs, they kind of
all fit the same lock, right, they all fit like
the same keyhole. They're slightly different keys, they're slightly different shape,

(55:28):
but they can all fit into this lock. And once
they discover this, they realize that it's sort of this
interchangeable substance that can use on that anything that reacts
to or produces adrenaline will be affected by this. Fish, lizards, spiders, humans, anybody.
So that's really And in this report here, I've got

(55:49):
this quote and it says, again, this is him being
frustrated with his peers trying to disprove his work constantly,
and he says, as we will show later, it's likely
that the extensive use of a drenochrome semi carbezide by
surgeons drive in part from its euphorian properties, and not
because it's a major chemostatic chemical. As they think this

(56:14):
semi carbazide this is I believe one of those other
forms of a drenochrome where they salt it and they
make it shelf stable and it loses some of its
psychological active properties. So if they already had this shelf
stable version and they were testing that, maybe that's why
all of this peers were saying no, no, you know,

(56:34):
you're making all this psychedelic stuff up because they weren't
testing it on pure aqueous adream on with.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
A capital T. So this do was onto the truth
right hapital T and everybody else was just a shill.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
So here's the lineage of how how do we know?
Why are we talking about a drenochrome right now? And
I would say psychedelics in general, And all roads lead
back to Oltus Huxley's Doors of Perception nineteen fifty because
in the exact same page that he talks about mescaline
for the first time, he also lists a drenochrome right

(57:08):
next to it. And the reason that he even knows
about adrenochrome is because he got his mescaline from I
believe it was Humphrey Osmond, another colleague of doctor Abram
Hoffer and Osmond. As he gave him the mescaline, was
also telling him about all these other things they were
looking into, one of them being a drenochrome. So Altus
Huxley knows about adrenochrome. Nineteen fifty seven. Only three years later,

(57:33):
this is when Robert Gordon Wasason's work for allegedly the Cia,
where he goes to Mexico and South America and all
over the world finding magic mushrooms. He found Salvia de venerum.
These make their way into the public sphere through Time
Life magazine because friends with a guy named Henry Luce
who's in the Sentry Club. He was a Skull and

(57:54):
Bones member. Anyways, he confirmed, we wouldn't have heard about
out As Huxley if it weren't for this Time Life magazine,
because this is the one that the housewives are reading.
This is the one that's in the grocery store, like
everyone is familiar with it once it comes out on
Time Life magazine. Whereas Outis Huxley would have been way

(58:15):
more niche. This would have been just like writers and
poets and artists and just sir freakos. Yeah, then we've
got in nineteen fifty eight, a year after Life magazine
came out. Carry Grant in his biography, he talks about
nineteen fifty eight he meets this doctor called doctor Oscar Janniger,

(58:36):
or they called him doctor Oz. And he was like
this doctor to Hollywood, to all the celebrities, and you
could pay him in nineteen fifty eight dollars two hundred
dollars and he would give you LSD and let you
kind of trip out under his guy. And no one
really had access to this, No one really knew exactly
what it was. Yet it came through Hollywood. First, it

(58:58):
was the military and then Hollywood. So there's a pipeline here.
And the reason I'm bringing this up is because even
in drenochrome, theories tend to revolve around politics, military, and Hollywood. Right,
So here we've got all three sort of detailed, just
in the initial psychedelic Revolution. And then as we keep going,

(59:20):
nineteen fifty nine is this movie called The Tingler with
Vincent Price. It's the first time that I believe that
LSD was ever featured in a motion picture film. Again,
this is before most people even knew what it was,
and the premise of the Tingler was that he would
give people so much LSD that it would make them

(59:42):
create so much paranoia and fear that it became a
physical manifestation that an actual what looks like a weird
sort of leech slash caterpillar slug thing would develop inside
of their body, like on their spinal cord, and that
if you gave them enough LSD and you invoked enough fear,
maybe through torture or punishment or anything, that you could

(01:00:05):
actually take this physical Tingler alien sort of like demonic
life form and extract it from the person and kind
of harvest it. So in my mind, this is perhaps
where some of this like frazzle drip style theories they
are kind of come from this movie The Tingler, which
is the sort of thing, use a psychedelic drug torture

(01:00:25):
someone until it gets to such a large extreme that
you're physically extracting pure fear from them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
So they would extract a you saw, like a worm
alien type of thing out of them, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Then yeah, you'd give them LSD, you'd freak them out,
you'd scare them, and then if you scare them enough,
the fear would turn into what originally would seem like
a tumor, but then it would be like moving around
inside your body and they could extract it. It was
this thing that would wrap itself around your spinal cord
that was then like creating and feeding off of your fear.

(01:00:58):
So this whole idea of like a demonic entity or
some alien being like Neo and the matrix not your fear, yeah,
thing kind of like matrix style. WHOA. So that I
think this is some of the DNA of like why
is adrenochrome and these psychedelics mixed with torture and fear
and frazzle drip?

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
But how many people know about this particular thing though, dude,
not I mean a tangler.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
It's it's literally the first major Hollywood movie that talks
about LSD twenty five. So anyone that's a Hollywood snob,
movie writers, anyone that's a fan of Vincent Price, Like,
if you like horror movies, if you're creating and producing
and writing horror movies, you probably know about the tangler.
And this was also one of the original movies that

(01:01:41):
would be shown with with percepto, which now they call
it like four D cinemas where you know, the seats
move around and they shake or maybe like some mist
weole spray in your face to like emulate smell. Well,
that was sort of like they have that now in
the movie theater you go to, like and Imax. They
might have that. They were doing those same things in

(01:02:03):
nineteen fifty nine, only that they would make the seat
buzz a little bit, it would like shake or maybe
it did shock you, Yeah, and in order to make
it feel like you yourself were being affected by this
like Tingler entity, you know, inside your body. So I
don't think that this is like a sleeper hit that

(01:02:23):
no one would have heard of now that it's a
nineteen fifty nine movie and we're talking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
That's what Percepto in five years.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
First picture in Percepto when the screen screams, you'll scream
two if you value your life. So that's what you're
talking about about. The whole immersive experience type of thing
like the Bugs Life ride that you do at Disney
where it pokes you through the seat and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
You ever exactly. So this was the first time they
did this on a mass scale. It's got Vincent Price,
who was a Hollywood, you know, sort of major name
when it came to herror and the first time you
see LSD or any psychedelic publicly advertised as such on
the screen. So those three things combined, I feel set

(01:03:07):
a huge ball in motion when it comes to like
the adrenochrome theories.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Which stimulated spine tingling sensations reference on screen with electrically
rigged theater seats that would mildly shock audiences during the
bigger scares whoa dude.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
So you would feel like you're actually going through the
same thing you're seeing on the screen, which are these evil,
demonic alien entities in your body feeding off of your fear.
Your seat would vibrate and it would shock you, and
that would be like the creature now feeding off of
your fear off your spinal column.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
This insane mythology was conceived by screenwriter Rob White when
he found himself studying centipede specimens around the time all
this Huxy encourage him to experiment with LSD.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
There's again all roads lead back to Aldus Huxley Man
when it comes through adrenochrome in particular, Wow, and I
won't get too much in a Naked Lunch. But Naked
Lunch by William Burns is another example of a writer
that had all sorts of deep inside access MK ultra
and psychedelic experiments that were going on way before they

(01:04:11):
got into the public sphere. Naked Lunch is the proof
of this one. And Naked Lunch he talks about a
doctor Benton, I think, and he's the guy that coined
the concept twilight Zone. You know, like the scary TV
show or the surreal off twilight Zone. Well that was
actually a name that he gave a process when he
would shock his patients into comas. He would do insulin

(01:04:37):
shot comas and they would come back out of it
and describe this weird twilight Zone. So again all this
like writing and sort of paranormal conspiracy style shows, they
all kind of come from the same place. The very
first time we see a drenochrome on the main screen
is nineteen sixty two Clockwork Orange because make it onto

(01:04:58):
the Milk Launch the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Aliens of Niga where they're drinking from their skulls. That
movie's trippy as well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
So it takes from nineteen thirty four until about nineteen
sixty two, so it takes just under thirty years a
full generation before a drenochrome starts to edge its way
into pop culture and then it's kind of all over
from there. It starts building its own like legends behind it.

(01:05:29):
So we just have a brief reference. It says drencrome
because they talk in this different dialect in Clockwork Orange.
So drencrome is a drenochrome. And there's proof that the
original writer of the book, Anthony Burgess, he was a
huge fan of Outus Huxley, so he hears about adrenochrome
from Outus Huxley as well. Again, everything kind of comes

(01:05:53):
from Huxley, and Huxley got it from Humphrey Osmon.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
So in Clockwork Orange also has what's his face, the
one that everyone always talked, Stanley Kubrick, So he was
the whole there's a lot of conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
And he decided to include that detail in the movie.
I mean, there was plenty of things that didn't get
included and got changed, but this is one that he
kept specifically, that dren crome. So yeah, anddirectly, Stanley Kubrick
is the one that first brought adrenochrome to the masses.
Although you might not even know what the hell you're
looking at, you just see dread crome in the background. Okay,

(01:06:28):
what does that mean? Unless you also read Doors of Perception,
you would have absolutely no idea what that meant until
right here. So by nineteen sixty seven, probably because of
Clockwork Orange, now people are writing stories about adrenochrome. Specifically.
One of them is by Terry Southern. He wrote on
Easy Rider, which is that biker movie with Dennis Hopper

(01:06:52):
and a bunch of other kind of classic actors, about
these this motorcycle gang that's taken psychedelics and going across
the country. Well, he also wrote and he worked for
Saturday Night Live, I believe too. He wrote a short
story called Blood of a Wig and essentially it's about
these guys that break into an insane asylum because they

(01:07:13):
understand if you siphon the blood, if you do a
transfusion of blood from someone with schizophrenia into your blood stream,
that you get to temporarily experience what schizophrenia feels like.
And this comes from research in the nineteen thirties where
they determined that schizophrenics had somewhere between five to ten

(01:07:35):
times the amount of adrenochrome in their blood as a
normal person like I mentioned me, and you have got
adrenochrome in our blood right now too, we have adrenaline
just in very small amounts, and then over time your
body sees the adrenaline and it's like I don't need
this right now, so it slowly starts to decompose. That's
where you get the adrenochrome in your blood system. If

(01:07:56):
you're a schizophrenic, what this really mean and I'm using
a term here, but like a big umbrella of schizophrenics,
But if your schizophrenic, your body is constantly seeing threats
and hearing threats and going through this wild experience. So
you're gonna have all this adrenaline in your system all
the time, which is partly why you might act a

(01:08:17):
little bit irrational, right, Like if you were always jacked
upon adrenaline, people would probably be like, well, stay away
from wand that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Guys like that come from that, like PTSD and like
people who are always in high tense situations in war
because you're always on edge, like that will mess you
up after you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Get you get an immedia injection of all this adrenaline
in your system, and there's not a lot you can
do with that other than act it out. And I
guess here's the reason why schizophrenic patients had all this
adreno chrome in their blood because they had all this adrenaline.
But if your body is constantly producing more adrenaline than
you know what to do with, there's only two options.

(01:08:57):
One option is that your body slowly decomposes it and
turns into drenochrome, that turns it into other sort of
derivatives until it's completely inert or you have a heart
attack and you die. Like those are the those are
the main two options you got. So either you're gonna
have massive amounts of drenochrome or you're gonna have a
heart attack, and that's sort of, uh, this will The

(01:09:18):
reason I'm bringing that up is because it'll play into
some of those like life longevity claims later on. But
this guy go ahead, And.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
It would also make sense that as your body's breaking
down the adrenal chrome, you're also absorbing it, so you're
getting the hallucinations and the psychoactive properties of it right well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
That that was one of the theories that hoffer Hoffner had.
It was also a theory that Carl Jung had. Carl
Jung had this idea. You know, he didn't talk about
adrenochrome specific but he was theorizing that there was something
called TOKS and X that was inside of our bodies,
that it was an actual chemical that would make you

(01:09:57):
act crazy. And if that were true, then that means
you can either give that chemical to someone or you
could figure out some sort of an antidote for it.
He was also talking in this like like a cure
for schizophrenia or cure for dementia, this toxin X. So
here is the closest thing that I think anyone's ever
discovered to what an actual toxin X might be, and

(01:10:20):
that would be a drenochrome, although I don't know like well,
this also comes in up in Hoffner's later papers that
sure that it's a drenochrome. Specifically that is the psychedelic,
but it enables other factors that would otherwise not be psychedelic.
One of the examples is that he came across someone
that was an LSD hardhead, meaning you could give him

(01:10:43):
three or four times a normal dose of LSD and
they just would not trip on it. They wouldn't have
any of the uphooric effects, they wouldn't have any of
the audio or visual hallucinations. But the second that he
gave them a drenochrome and then it snapped in and
it started working immediately. So he was kind of theorizing
that it's not even LSD, Like LSD might not even
have any effect on you. It's the reaction you need

(01:11:06):
to have a drenochrome in your system. A highly controversial
claim that he made. And again even today, his peers
if he were still alive, and he's not, but his
peers would still be like, no, uh, that ain't real.
So it's like no one's really picked up that torch
ever since he made those claims, and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
That would make sense as to like a lot of
people talk about, oh, I take this stuff and it
does nothing to me. I can take a bunch of
it and it does nothing to me. So maybe they're
low on adrenochrome or adrenaline in their body. Therefore they
don't have adrenal chrome to synthesize. Therefore this substance can't
react to said, you know, adrenochrome in their blood, so

(01:11:44):
it does nothing for them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
That's that's my impression of what doctor Abram Hoffer was
was getting at in his later papers. Yeah, so this
nineteen sixty seven Blood of a Wig, they mentioned a
drenochrome by name, and he basically says that they're gonna
go to this insane asylum and they're gonna take the
blood of these schizophrenic patients and put it into their
arms so that they can experience what it feels like.

(01:12:08):
And this is that idea of if I take a
drenochrome from your body and put it into my body,
I start to hallucinate. One of the interesting parts of
this story is that not only does it work, but
they find this this Chinese poet, and as soon as
he starts taking this adrenalized as adrenochrome blood from this
Chinese poet, not only does he feel what it's like

(01:12:30):
to be schizophrenic, he says he feels what it's like
to be a Chinese poet, like he's actually reliving old
memory of this poet by kind of this blood. And
you can see where this also dovetails in the sum
of the conspiracy theory lore into like obscene right, or
eating people's pineal glands, or like all of these things

(01:12:52):
where you can ingest a part of a person, like
a cannibalistic aspect and now get to relive part of
their life or get to to relive some of their memories.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
And to clarify, this is a story that he wrote
because there was no movie about this, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
This is a short story called Blood of a Wig.
And this was inside of a couple different collections of
short stories to put out. One of them was called
burning Chrome or sorry know Sterry Tubban. This one was
called something about Dirt Marijuana read Dirt Marijuana and other
short story right, and the actual article Blood of a Wig,

(01:13:29):
the short story was published in High Times. It was
published in like three or four different magazines as well.
So this at this point most sort of like underground
guys are watching Saturday Night Live, they're watching Easy Writer
that are reading Terry Southern. Now they know about a drenochrome,
so it starts to escalate. And this the reason this
one is so important to know about too, is that

(01:13:50):
it predates Fear and Loathing by at least four years.
So Hunter S. Thompson is the most cited version of
a drenochrome, probably even more so because of the movie
that came out with Johnny Depp and Benicio Del Toro
where Johnny Depp holds up this bile and he says
that out of all these drugs you've seen him do
on screen at this point, right, they're like inhaling ether

(01:14:11):
and that are in coke, and they're doing like they're
doing every drug you've ever heard of, but they're actually
a fraid to do too much of this adrenochrome. And
they say that it came from these Satanists and that
like the Satanists get it from kids, and that this
is where a lot of that lower comes from. But
I don't know if that would have existed without Blood
of a Wig first, So this is the full lineage,

(01:14:32):
and then in ninethe go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
So it just makes me wonder if people are copying Hollywood,
or of Hollywood is copying like real life events. You know,
that's my whole thing. Does life imitate art? Does our
imitate life? Type of thing with all these stories, because
how you're saying this particular movie in nineteen ninety eight,
I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
It was right by Terry Gilliam who directed that one.
And in the director's cut of that, if you listen
to like the director commentary, he makes this bs claim
of like, oh yeah, dream chrome doesn't even exist. We
made it up for this movie, which we've already shown,
is false on many levels. He wasn't even the first
person to fictionalize it, let alone come up with it

(01:15:16):
as an idea.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, based on Hunter S. Thompson's novel of
the same name.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Right, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. So it predates
the actual concept of using this and harvesting it from
other human beings in like unethical ways, predated that movie
by at least thirty years, Right, So there's another old
generation separated. Another example that I think is one of

(01:15:42):
the better ones to bring up in nineteen seventy three,
there's a book by this guy, Adam Gottlieb. It's called
Legal Highs, and it's an alphabetical listing of every single
quote unquote legal psychedelic that you could try and get
your hands on. And he is in this book. And
the reason I bring this up is for anyone that's like, oh,

(01:16:02):
that's not really a psychedelic or no one actually ever
did that or used that. He did, And in the
seventy three he even mentions that on the it's the
very first drug listed. Because this book is in alphabetical
order and a drenochrome starts with ad So literally the
second you open this book and start going through the pages. Bam.

(01:16:22):
The very first drug is a drenochrome. And even in
his book nineteen seventy three he mentions that the semi
carbazone version of this, that like shelf stable salted version,
has absolutely no psychedelic effects you and then it's a
waste of time, but that there is a version of
a drenochrome which has the psychedelic effects. So even this guy,

(01:16:46):
Adam Gottlie even seventy three, knew about the difference between
these two things. After this, they get conflated and not
many people really highlight the difference between these two forms.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
There it is right there, adrenochrome, semikarb carbozone, right there,
material oxidize.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Ne epinepfyrin. That's epinephrine and adrenaline are basically the same thing.
There was a war in the early nineteen hundreds over
trying to patent it because it was synthesized, and it
just depends on what context you're using it in. But
adrenaline and epinephrin are exactly the same thing, just different names.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Whoa dude affects physically, physical stimulating feeling of well being,
slight reduction of thought processes, right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
So again more evidence, more receipts that were just not
making up all these claims about adrenochrome. And then I'll
start whipping through some of these more I'm not getting
every single one in here, but we go from seventy
three ten years later, we've got the winner market. This
is the collection of another short stories, Burning Chrome, by

(01:17:55):
William Gibson. William Gibson is the one that coined the
term cyberspace. He's the one that came up with neuromancer,
I Believe, which is one of the earliest like cyberpunk books.
And in this he mentions a guy that is taking
a drenochrome, or that he has some sort of a
research chemical, a designer drug that is modified so that

(01:18:19):
it does not composee decompose into a drenochrome, otherwise it
would make you feel schizophrenic. So again we've got these
examples of fictional stories being written about people that knew
about like a drenochrome making you feel schizophrenic. So nineteen
eighty six, Stephen King's It comes out, and this is

(01:18:39):
where I think some of these satanic frazzle drip theories
they get conflated and it's all built on this slow boil.
And Stephen King's it. Pennywise, the clown. He makes these
statements that the he likes to eat the meat of
the children, right, he tore and he scares kids and

(01:19:01):
he eats them essentially, or he feasts on their fear,
this concept of eating fear, feasting on fear, just like
that Tangler movie with Vincent Price. But now it's a
clown that lives in these sewers, and he mentions that
fear salts the meat, which implies and it makes like
these kids taste better if he scares them first. And
you can conflate with what tastes better to a monster

(01:19:26):
clown that lives in the gutters might be equated to
like potency of like, oh, we have to torture the
kid to make the adrenochrome more potent, the same way
Pennywise would torture a kid to make their fear taste better.
It's sort of that same analogy, except one you're talking
about a chemical effect, the other one you're talking about
I guess your personal taste.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Yeah, And I would lump up Stephen King in there
with Kubrick because they did work Kubrick made movies based
on stories that he wrote, right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Yeah, the Shining Be in particular. And then also Stephen
King has a book called The Institute, which I think
he came out within like twenty nineteen or something. And
the Institute out tracking down these like Indigo children and
torturing them and basically ex getting them to do all

(01:20:16):
sorts of crazy things with telekinesis and telepathy, but that
over time they become schizophrenic, so that there's wild connections
between Stephen King and this concept of adrenochrome too. So
we're slowly you can slowly see where we go from science,
all these scientific papers. Sure, then Huxley breaks into the

(01:20:37):
writing world. This was a nonfiction book. Same with the
Life magazine, Same with Carry Grant's biography. And then you've
got Tingler and Naked Lunch and Clockwork Orange and Blood
of a Wig and Fear and Loathing and Winter Market
and these are all fiction being written about the same
kind of topic. Now, in nineteen ninety two, a book
that probably gave me one of my very first conspiracy pills.

(01:21:01):
I've got no idea what color you would call this one,
but the Franklin cover Up Child abuse, satanism, and murder
in Nebraska. He describes kids that are essentially going through
what the you know, the clown is putting the kids
through in it or that what some of these guys.
But he says that they would be kidnapped, taken on

(01:21:21):
these private jets the Bohemian Grove, and kids would basically
murder each other and have to like drink each other's
blood like all of the crazy frazzle drip style theories.
They kind of originated in this nineteen ninety two Franklin
cover up book, which I don't think would have existed
without all these books to predate it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
And this is based off. In June nineteen eighty eight,
and Omaha, Nebraska and multiple prominent Nebraska political and business
figures were accused of involvement in a child sex trafficking ring.
And again this sort of thing feeds into hey, the elites,
the wealthy, they all like kids. They want to they
want to sniff them, and they want to do stuff
to them. And yeah, it doesn't help. So the allegations

(01:22:03):
attracted significant public and political interest until at late nineteen
ninety when separate state and federal grand juries concluded that
the allegations were unfounded and the ring was carefully a
carefully crafted hoax.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Yikes, and that carefully crafted hoax as a headline.

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Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Means, Illuminati concerned. Also that same year, nineteen ninety two,
when Franklin cover It comes out, this artist Damien Hurst,
he releases uh the series call I think he called
it Dots and as you can see on the screen here,
but there's just a bunch of different colored dots and

(01:25:04):
he had lots and lots of variations of these. Well,
the first one that got any major attention, it's sold
at I believe it was Christie's Art House. It was
one of the two major like art auction houses. I
think it was Christie's. It sold for like something like
three million dollars or something at the time ninety two.

(01:25:25):
And it was called a drenochrome semi caarbozone. So his
dots painting gets snatched up, puts him on the map,
makes him rich, and it's on a drenochrome. So now
we've got the topic of a drenochrome infiltrating the fine
art world. It's not splouters and it's oh yeah, you
prob friends of them, right, absolutely. He he's friends with

(01:25:47):
the Brahmovich. You'll see him in all sorts of like
red carpet events with celebrities. One of his most famous
works was adapted into the movie The Cell with Jennifer
Lopez and Vince Vaughan. It's about this serial killer that's
kidnapping and torturing children coincidentally, and she figures out a

(01:26:08):
way to go into his head by taking some substance,
some psychedelic and basically investigates through his head. Well, that
was in one of those scenes. Have you seen The
Cell before?

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
The movie?

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
What year is that? Ninety nine?

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
No, I've never seen it, cover two thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
You have to see this. This is like such a
cult movie. But she goes into the mind of this
serial killer and it basically looks like a haerroneous bosh
painting with like all kinds of weird like Chrollian effects
to it. But in this there's this really specific scene
when she walks into a big room it looks like

(01:26:52):
an art gallery, and there's a cow there, like a
live cow, And as she walks up to the cow,
these glass plates fall from the and they slice the cow,
but they slice it in a way that it's perfectly preserved,
and then they all spread out so you can like
walk between the sections of the cow and like she
sees the heart still beating and all these different slices. Well,

(01:27:14):
this is based on Damien Hurst's work and he is
now known as United Kingdom's richest living artist estimated networth
of three hundred and eighty four million dollars. So again
this is just he was the one that brought adrenochrome
into the fine art world and you've probably seen his
works in a lot of different capacities.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Did Podesta have any of his works by any chance?

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Absolutely, yah collected. So the one that bought the Adrenochrome painting,
that one's never been revealed because it was a private purchase.
But there are two or three different pieces from Damien
Hurst that Podesta did collect. One of them is like
a world map that showed like the poison and missiles

(01:28:00):
and like horrific events happening all over the world. That
was one of the that's one right there, the Last Supper,
says the Last Supper. Yeah, this is one that was
owned by the Podestas, and there was a there was
a couple others as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
But yeah, so you see how this looks that connection,
You see how this looks.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Here's the scene from the cell. It's inverted because I've
got like a weird like dark dark filter.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
On and before you continue. So this is nineteen ninety nine,
two thousand, we have Jlo. Of course, out of all
people in there, is there any references to substances taken
by ancient peoples at all that refer to this sort
of adrenochrome like substance. Because we do have a lot
of blood sacrifice throughout all of history, would that be

(01:28:50):
indicative of adrenochrome or some similar substance that would fall
in line with these modern day beliefs prior to nineteen
twenty three or whatever it was that it started.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
We're getting there, so that's actually the crux of this presentation.
Bear with me. We're gonna be there very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
This is crazy, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
So to two thousand, We're gonna skip ahead another couple decades.
I have a civil list of every reference of adrenochrome
in pop culture, TV shows, movies, music, artwork, everything. I'm
just doing the highlights here. So from twenty to twenty twenty,
there's this Bulgarian news report where they literally say that

(01:29:29):
adrenochrome is extracted from children's brains. They mentioned that it
is a satanic narcotic. They've got all sorts of references.
The many that got me a strike on YouTube, by
the way, is I just found this clip from Bulgarian
News on YouTube and then I put it on my video.

(01:29:49):
Was it a copyright issue? It was just that they
were talking about adrenochrome and it got taken down for
like violent hate speech or something. Da This is these
are three separate instances. So twenty twenty, if you just
go and search for adrenochrome Bulgarian National Television, you'll see
this this segment, and it basically this guy gets into

(01:30:13):
a car crash and when they test his blood they
find all these drugs in it. And then apparently there
was a rumor that got spread around that he had
either a drenochrome in his blood, which would make sense
because we all do, or that and or he had
a massive sort of stash of a drenochrome with him
in the car. And then this just turns into conspiracy theory.

(01:30:37):
But it's on the Bulgarian News and they have none
of the fact checking or any of the nuances that
are great companies here like Meta and CNN and AOL
and you Twitter at the time all had so they're
just at they're just broadcasting all this information any I
meanly citing things that came from fear and loathing in

(01:30:58):
Las Vegas as if it were scientific research. So it
helps spiral this adrenochrome theory. But it also means that
now the adrenochrome conspiracy is well outside of US pop culture.
Now it's worldwide. It hit Bulgaria. From there it gets
into the Russian disinformation factories and now it's everywhere. Two

(01:31:18):
years later, there is a it's it's under the Daily
Show with Trevor Noah, But really it was a separate
show that Jordan Klepper did. He's one of the correspondents
on The Daily Show, and he had like a like
a video podcast series that he was doing because it
was during the pandemic and a lot of people were

(01:31:39):
doing like remote and they were you know, everyone had
like these weird like podcast shows because they couldn't actually
go into the office anymore since they were all playing
the game. Well, one of his was called Jordan Klepper's
Fingers Conspiracy, and this one particular episode he invites on
these two quote unquote experts to talk about adrenochrome, and
they make a few claims that were patently false. So

(01:32:03):
one of the say in this interview is that you
can get it online. We've already talked about technically that's true,
but it's not. It's not the kind that you would
actually do to give you these effects. So it's sort
of disingenuous the way that they frame it. They also
say this chick on the left, she says used for anything,

(01:32:24):
as in, there's no medicals for it at all. That's
also patently false. Some of the boring reasons is that
it's used to coagulate blood in surgery. They all use
it in like an eye surgery. There's all sorts of
legitimate uses they have it for. She also says some

(01:32:44):
use in the nineteen sixties to treat schizophrenia, but showed
no promise. That's also incorrect. The people were not taking
a drenochrome to treat schizophrenia. They were looking at a
drenochrome as a possible cause of schizophrenia. If anything, that
treatment would have been helping remove a drenochrome from your blood,

(01:33:04):
not add more to it. So I think that it
was just misinform it just a list of like wrong statements.
Also said Huxley was the first to talk about it.
Also false, as I already show that it was predated
Huxley when all these different research papers and Huxley himself
was introduced through it by Humphrey Osmond. So that's false.

(01:33:27):
And also acclaim that Terry Gilliam made it up, which
is based on the director's commentary of Fear and Living
in Las Vegas, also false. So the Daily show what
is a drenochrome? With these two experts, they just repeat
all of the incorrect information that I've come across over
and over again, and they sort of make that it's like,
all right, you know, the show's over. We've disproved the drenochrome.

(01:33:50):
It's not a real thing, and even if it is,
it doesn't have any uses, and even if it does
have uses, and that no one cares about it. So
that was And then finally in twenty twenty four, because
that's when I gave this was last year Joe that
This is a screen cap from the TV show The Boys,
which is on Amazon Prime, and on the ticker on

(01:34:10):
the bottom it says, does starlight drink a drenochrome? So
now you've got like, you know, the most mainstream of
entertainment is talking about a drenochrome directly. It took a
long time to get there because before all this it
was basically fear loading in Las Vegas, one little scene
that kind of went by as a blip. But fast

(01:34:31):
forward another generation of thirty years. Now it's common knowledge now,
Like you know, your kids that you're watching TV shows
with or that are watching the Daily Show all have
this word in their vernacular.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Yeah, it's like I said, I think that most people,
and I would say most people, probably conservative more than anything,
are the ones that are like super into this sort
of conspiracy that the elites are diddling little children and
using them for the satanic abuse, to extract this sort

(01:35:05):
of stuff from them.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
All right, now we're gonna now we're gonna go back
in time, like a five thousand years or so. So
you were asking, like, oh, what are the historical stories
of Well, okay, so this is another kind. It reminds
me of doctor Abramhoffer writing about how he's frustrated with
all of his peers because they're like, n uh like

(01:35:28):
the I'm not even studying this, but I just don't
like what you're doing, so I'm gonna just say that
you're making it up, or I'm just gonna disprove it
without doing any of their research. The same exact thing
was happening up until the seventies, eighties, even nineties, is
that there were all these stories about massive child sacrifice

(01:35:49):
by all these ancient cultures. And up until the nineteen seventies,
like prior to that, there were sort of two camps.
There was a fringe camp that was like, yeah, man,
all these cultures were just sacrificing kids by the hundreds,
and they were torturing them and they were eating their
bodies and drinking their blood, all this crazy vampiric stuff, right,

(01:36:10):
And then you had the sane, rational modern science and
medicine that were saying, no, those are crazy old wives tales.
None of that happened. There's no proof or even humans
sacrifice at all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
I've heard people dispute.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Right, or that if it did happen, it was like
that one time and no one ever did it again,
or it was just done by these weird fringe cultures
and it was never accepted by like mainstays of society.
Well around the nineteen seventies, eighties and nineties, they start
uncovering actual archaeological sites that unequivocally, beyond the shadow of

(01:36:49):
a doubt, prove that they were sacrificing children in mass
and it wasn't just for sickness, and it wasn't just
kids that at or stillborn's or any of those other
you know stories that usually are brought up to explain away.
They have unequivocal examples of this. So here's one in Turkey.

(01:37:11):
Ancient Mesopotamians may have sacrificed children as a show of powers.
Came from CNNC notes true, but this is thirty one
hundred BC. So here's one of the older instances that
we've got of these these child sacrifice sites. Three thousand BC.
We have this artwork here of a human sacrifice. This

(01:37:35):
is actually cited as one of the oldest records of
human sacrifice in each region. So you've got this guy
on the left who is like sticking his hand through
this other guy that's sitting down, and then another body
to the right of them, and then I believe that's
on the wall up here are supposed to be organs

(01:37:58):
or some other like chunks of human flesh. So this
along with the context in which this was found that
this has been cited as illustrated proof that they were
documenting human sacrifice. That we've got in Mayan culture twenty
six hundred BC. Archaeologist ancient elite family ritual that words

(01:38:22):
in their elite family ritual may explain child sacrifice. An
article from twenty twenty four. In Mayan culture, there was
something called I don't know how this is pronounced X
and kex is an exchange or a substitution of something.
Through kex, infants would substitute more powerful humans. It was

(01:38:43):
thought that supernatural beings would consume the souls of more
powerful humans, and infants were substituted in order to prevent that.
For example, if you thought, I'm going to make a
overly simplistic version of this, but if you thought that
the demons were coming for you one because you're the king,
or you know, like you're this amazing podcast or with
this huge following, so the demons are after you. If

(01:39:07):
you just sacrifice a kid, you're kind of you're like
feeding them off. You gave them like a snacker granola
bar to like fend them off for a little bit longer,
so they don't come after you in particular. And as
long as you keep feeding them, these children, then they'll
stay off your back. You'll keep them sort of say,
sheeated fuck these kids. I don't care. So that so

(01:39:27):
another just another version August four, Right, this is really
when it was written. Yeah, that was written and published
on Newsweek. I did my best on these slides to
pick the most normy of publications, so I wasn't pulling
up like forty Times or like Info Wars. Right music,
here's another one, Daily Mail. Maybe he's on the cuss

(01:39:47):
but but this one has so many other articles across
other publications. I just liked their headline the best. So
Inside the Mayans Bone written the Midnight Terror ca where
scientists believed children were trafficked from hundreds of miles away
to be sacrificed to the gods. This sounds like a

(01:40:08):
frazzle trip plotline, right, You've got elite families that are
trafficking children across the country for sacrifice. Some of the highlights.
Midnight Terror Cave is located in Springfield in Belize. It
was discovered in two thousand and six. So again, this
is one of those stories that people were telling for

(01:40:28):
thousands of years and up until the seventies, eighties, nineties,
in this case, not until the mid two thousands was
someone like, oh crap, maybe that was real. Look at
all these freaking bones in this terror cave. And then
the reason why they know that they were sacrifice is
because they had cut marks and injuries consistent with human sacrifice.

(01:40:51):
The minds would sacrifice bodies, hearts, and blood to appease
their gods. That's all known, and that the analysis of
the teeth found at the site found that most of
the remains were children aged between six and fourteen. So
now if you add all these up together, you've got
these pre pubescent children that are being trafficked by elite

(01:41:12):
families all across the country to be sacrificed in these
secret underground rituals and terror caves. This is all none
of that's conspiracy. These are all actual articles that really happened.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Well, you see, the history is ruled by the elites
and all that stuff, but I mean, this proves against them,
and that's why to me, the research of Amin Hillman,
which I'm sure you've probably heard of him, where he
talks about.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
Where Jesus was like farming like kid drugs.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Yeah, but it kind of falls in line with what
the conspiracy is of today, where hey, they were into
kids and why were they Oh, because they were using
them as drugs, right, And it's like, well, you can
kind of interpret that the same sort of way. Oh,
the burning purple and the initiations and all this other stuff.
So it kind of plays into that mainstream narrative of

(01:42:02):
the conspiracy of the again, the elites using kids to
extract whatever it is that they were that they were doing.
It's it's it's wild, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
We'll keep inching closer in history because we're we're all
we're still in like two thousand BC era ancient Sumeria
at Er, I believe this is modern day Iraq. Ritual
deaths were anything but serene. And then it has a
CT scan that shows a female skull at a burial
site in Er where they were basically buried with their

(01:42:35):
weapons and warriors. It's twenty four hundred BC. Is this
concept of mulk or maleik or molok. So when people
get biblical with this and like, oh, you're there sacrificing
their kids to malak or you know, the brazen bull,
and well, this is Canaanite, Phoenician culture, Carthaginian culture. And

(01:42:59):
the reason why this is important and it gets brought
up is that it was state religion. This was not
an underground, elite, secret society thing that only you know,
like the few knew about. This happened all the time.
Like this happened out in the middle. It'll be like
if you went out and had to meet in downtown
of your area and once a month you got to

(01:43:19):
bring a kid, or once a month you got an
animal or something that it would it would happen like clockwork,
and it was done out in the open, and it
was followed by these massive sexual orgies. So like it
wasn't just like sacrifice day and then orgy day. A
lot of the time it was like, all right, we
did the sacrifice here, now it time for the orgy
to separate. And again like the whole frazzle drip thing

(01:43:43):
where they're like abusing kids and they're doing all kinds
of crazy things. This is just a retelling of what
really was happening in Phoenician and Carthaginian culture, if you
believe the stories written about them from the victors, which
was mostly the Romans, but anyway, So this one could

(01:44:03):
be its own talk. But essentially m l k a
funny acronym there if you were to just say out
loud like get or word mulk. That's one of the
ways that it gets passed around is the word mulk.
And this basically was a The actual practice of sacrificing

(01:44:23):
a human being would be called mulk. So any god
that you did a mulk to means you're doing a
human sacrifice. There's also the word malik, which means king
or lord or god, kind of like ball. Like even
people use the word ball to describe like a specific god,
but ball just meant lord of any kind, be like bias,

(01:44:46):
all bub was like lord of the flies, and like
like all these different versions of it. So it wasn't
just a god's name. But over time the phrase mulk
and malik mulk meaning a sacrif malik meaning a lord,
they get sort of conflated into the word molik, and
molk is quind of like this God of sacrifice is

(01:45:09):
just a personification of mulk and malik both combined.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
And that's where the where the the argument stands. Was
it a deity or was it an act? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
That's like the the answer is yes. It was like
all of the aboves yes. Because over time, like all
these complicated systems with multiple gods, they get condensed down.
That's why like modern religion, it's like, there's just one god. Now,
we're just in monotheism now because it's way easier than
memorizing like thousands of gods and the gods of certain acts.
Now there's just one god. You don't got to worry

(01:45:41):
about all these other ones. But back then you did
have to worry about all these other ones. And through
the slow process of syncretism, which is like cultures and
religions that are adopted in other parts of the world
and they turn into their own things. That's one of
the theories that Mulk and Malik turns into Molok, and
that's where we get this bullheaded, two horned god of

(01:46:03):
child sacrifice of Molik. He's an amalgamation of all these
other more nuanced, very specific things. Then we've got twenty
two hundred in crete the Minoans, where we get the
word minotaur, the Minoans and elite sacrifice. Even the entire
premise of the Labyrinth with the minotaur in the Labyrinth,

(01:46:26):
this was imposed on the elite families of Athens, so
once a year, depending on the stories that you read,
every four years, there's different time intervals, but there was
a very specific interval in which the elite families of
Athens would have to bring their first born to the
labyrinth and put their kids into this labyrinth to try

(01:46:47):
and to feed the minotaur. Chances are you put your
kid in that labyrinth, your kid's never coming back out.
This is just another early form of child sacrifice. And
this is again archaeologist fine hint of cannibalism in crete,
and it says Athens, Greece archaeologists excavating a thirty four
hundred year old house at Nosis have unearthed a pile

(01:47:09):
of bones that may indicate minoans of ancient crete eight
children's flesh during bizarre religious ceremonies. You can look this up.
I won't read the entire article to you, but another
example of our ancient ancestors, ancient Greeks that were literally
eating children as part of these rituals.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
And they weren't elites, they weren't doing that for drenochrome.
They were just having a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
You know, well, but having a good time. They just
might not have realized why it made them have such
a great time. A drenochrome could have been part of
the chemical explanation on top of just the experience itself.
And we're getting there, I promised, we're getting there slowly,
bronze age, We've got Okay, here's the examples. Before you

(01:47:56):
had balls of Fawn, which meant the lord of of fons.
A fawn was a like a cave I believe in
which Zeus was alleged to have been born, that he
was born in the cave of Zafan. So Ball's a
fon ends up becoming Zeus at a certain point, bal
Hammond becomes Saturn or Chronos, and then Ball's above meaning

(01:48:19):
lord of the flies, that becomes this, you know, lord
of the of the crap. And then even the Mendes
goat ball Mendes becomes Bapphamet. So these are all just
examples of how the word ball originally meant like a
certain title for a very specific deity, but over a
long enough time period, ball just turns into like a

(01:48:42):
singular god. It just becomes this evil sort of demon
that's inside of the Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
Where does ball sack fall into that line?

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
Of exactly right somewhere above your chin and below your nose,
I believe. And then Ball after he gets amalgamated because
they got Zeus, they don't need balls of far because
they got Zeus now, and they don't need ball Hammon
because now they've got their own agricultural gods depending on

(01:49:14):
the region you're from. So Ball literally starts sort of
just like evaporating from vernacular. And this is one of
my favorite topics. Again, another one that probably have its
own hours of presentation, but of Tannate. Tannet was the
female consort of ball Hammon, and she ends up becoming

(01:49:35):
the real substitute for Ball. So once the Carthaginians, because
so you've got the Phoenicians, and the Phoenicians are really
just the seafaring people that came from Canans. So the
Canaanites in the Bible are similar to what the Greeks
and the Romans would call the Phoenicians and the Phoenicians.

(01:49:55):
Once they start losing their empire to Rome and to Greece,
they start to concentrate in Carthage. Carthage is at the
northern tip of Africa modern day Tunisia. So in this area,
though they are basically doing the exact same human sacrifice
that they were doing Tamolok and Taball, but now they're

(01:50:17):
doing it to this chick Tant. And if you look,
Tants symbol is basically a moon or a sun with
a crescent moon on top, and then there's like this
little like horizontal line on top of a pyramid. But
as you see some of the other depictions, it starts
to turn into like an all seeing eye on top

(01:50:39):
of a pyramid. Yeah, I was gonna say so, there's
not a lot of people that are saying it was
an eye on top of a pyramid, but I'm just
looking at it and using my eyeballs, and I'm telling
you it's an eyeball on top of an all seeing
eye on top of a pyramid. And this was the
symbol of Tenant, which became the new symbol. This is

(01:50:59):
aut like all of the Molok's sacrifice and all the
Ball sacrifice was sort of losing favor at least publicly.
It gets put onto her and here we've got infant
burials at a carthage. Tafeit. Tafit is a specific term
for these sites where human sacrifice, more often than not
child sacrifice was happening. So if you just search for carthage,

(01:51:24):
tapits or tafit of any kind, this will give you
these specific sites all across the world where they've proven
the child sacrifice were happening ritualistically.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
Not a good look. Not a good look, as I'm
gonna say, not a good look to it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
All right, we're when we made through a thousand years,
we've got another version of the Elmanati I think, which
sounds like Illuminati confirmed them bones of newborn or unborn infants,
some consuming of whole skeletons, dismembered femurs, and skull It

(01:52:01):
was human sacrifice, and that each of the infant remains
were subordinate to a rich burial of a wooden bust.
So they would sacrifice kids and then they would bury
sort of a wooden bust of that kid or of
a god. So just another example that the humans didn't

(01:52:21):
skip a beat like this. He fights and child sacrifice
kept going for quite a while. This one comes up
a lot. This is one of the craziest ones. The
az Tech god of tears and of sympathetic magic. So
this was the Aztec version of what the Phoenicians and
the Carthaginians were doing. And again the article from the

(01:52:42):
ap April seventeen, two thousand and seven, evidence of sacrificed
kids and the reason that modern day some people call
him the god of tears. I don't believe the Aztecs
called him that was because one of the rituals was
that he was also a fertility god and that if
you needed rain for your crops and it wasn't raining,

(01:53:02):
they would torture children, sometimes by pulling their fingernails out,
and when the children started to cry, those tears were
supposed to be representative of tears that the gods were
going to make fall from the sky. So here you've
got the as below so above sympathetic magic. If I
make a kid cry, then God's gonna make an even

(01:53:22):
bigger kid cry and then we get rain for our crops.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
How stupid do you have to be believe that?

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Dude? Like, well, so this is one of those examples
of Okay, we've got these elites that are kidnapping and
torturing children and making them cry like they don't. They're
not just harvesting blood, but they need to torture them
before they sacrifice them for what In this context, would
be like an agricultural reason. But you can sort of

(01:53:50):
see that over another two thousand years plus change that
this could evolve into Okay, well we're not. We don't
need the tears for agriculture. We need the tears because
it makes the dream crome more potent. But it's sort
of the same line that we can draw and then
we've got Okay, here's where we start to hit a

(01:54:11):
good fever pitch. These are all of the historical accounts
of Phoenician child sacrifice. So this one's from the Catholic Encyclopedia,
and it said in sacrificing children of Molok, the Israelites
simply thought they were offering them in Holocaust to Yahweh,
because holocaust also just means a burnt offering. So in

(01:54:31):
other words, the melic to whom child sacrifices were offered
was Yahweh under another name. What the Catholic Encyclopedia is
basically saying is that even when the Israelites came out
of the wilderness and they ran into these other agricultural cults,
these Phoenicians and these Canaanites, the Canaanites and the Phoenicians,

(01:54:54):
they were worshiping the exact same God as the Israelites.
It's just that they were performing this mo ritual, and
that's what the Israelites were detesting. It wasn't that they
were saying, don't worship your god Molok, don't worship your
god ball. It was more like, stop doing Moluk, stop
doing Mulk, like, stop doing the sacrifices. You don't need

(01:55:15):
to do that to honor this god. I'm oversimplifying this
quite a bit, but this is the Catholic Encyclopedia reference
of it. Here we've got some biblical quotes. So these
specific quotes come from maybe around sixth century BC, or
maybe even fourteenth or fifteenth. So thou shalt not give

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any of thy seed to set them apart to Molik.
That's Leviticus eighteen twenty one. Another one from Leviticus twenty
whoever giveth his seed unto Molok shall be put to death.
And if people hide their eyes from that man when
he giveth his seed into Molok and put him not
to death, then I will set my face against that

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man again. And this is like if you know Hillary
Clinton is doing frazzle drip and you turn a blind
eye to it. God is angry at you too, even
though you're not the one that's actually doing it. Then
in King's twenty three to ten, he defiled Topith, which
is in the valley of the son of Heinam, that
no man might make his son or daughter pass through

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the fire to Moloch. Passing through the fire to Molik
means throwing your baby into this burning ritual pit, this
holocaust we're offering. Then in Jeremiah, they built the high
places of Ball set apart their sons and their daughters
onto Molok. Again, this is them building up these temples
to gods and then sacrificing their kids in this mulk ritual.

(01:56:43):
So we've got biblical quotes. Now we've got some non
biblical quotes. We've got Plato that says with us, for instance,
human sacrifice is not legal but unholy, whereas the Carthaginians
perform it as a thing they count holy and legal.
And that too when some of them sacrifice their own

(01:57:05):
sons to Chronos. So here there's a lot to unpack here.
But here we can see that Plato's not calling it ball,
and he's not calling it Molok. He's calling it Chronos,
because that was what the god had evolved to at
this point. And he's also saying that the Carthaginians perform
it as a thing theycount holy and legal, meaning they're

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doing this out in the public. They're making you do it.
They're forcing you to show up and bring a sacrifice
with you, depending on where your role is in the society.
So this is Plato talking about this is around thirty
eighty BC.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
Check out that last line. Dude's so conspira, as I
dare say, you yourself have heard.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
Yeah, that's like saying, like, as we all know, right exactly, dude,
Like legend think that's a great point to point out,
is that this isn't some weird fringe thing that no
one had ever heard about, were seeing documented his star
archaeological record. Here's Plato even saying like, as you guys
know about these Carthaginians, and he's explaining that it was

(01:58:07):
to Chronos, and he's explaining that it was their public religion,
not some underground secret siety cult. We've got, oh god Clotarkos.
And he says the Phoenicians and above all the Carthaginians
venerating Chronos whenever they were eager for something to succeed

(01:58:28):
made a vow by one of their children. If they
received their desired things, they would sacrifice it to the god.
A bronze chronos erected by them stretched out upturned hands
over a bronze oven to burn the child. The flame
of the burning child reached its body, the limbs having
shriveled up and a smiling mouth appearing to be laughing,

(01:58:50):
it would slip into the oven. Therefore, the grin is
called sardonic laughter since they die laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
WHOA, I think this is where Pizza's originated.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
Dude, absolutely, and that's why we call it pizzagate. And
like sardonic humor and sardonic laughter, there's also images of
if you look up, like old Molloch towfit sacrifice. They
would put these masks on the children that had these
big smiling mouths on it, super creepy looking, and it

(01:59:22):
was because they didn't want to offend the gods. They
weren't like the Aztecs that were like, oh yeah, that
God wants these kids to be crying and stuff, that's
part of the magic here. They were afraid that if
they gave their newborn kid up into the gods, and
they were screaming, and they were like it would offend them.
So this is a way of like, don't pay attention
to the screaming kid. Look he's smiling for you. Everyone's

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happy here.

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
Yikes.

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
All right, thirty BC, we're almost at JC. Jc's almost
on the scene, but we're still talking about Diodoro's Syklis.
Cronos had turned against them as much as form times
as they had been accustomed to sacrifice the god the
noblest of their sons, but more recently they were secretly

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buying and nurturing children and sent these to sacrifice. When
an investigation was made, some of those who had been
sacrificed were discovered to have been substituted by stealth. To
make amends for the emission, they selected two hundred of
the noblest children and sacrificed them publicly. Others who were

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under suspicion sacrificed themselves voluntarily, in numbers not less than
three hundred. And then it said that in the city
was a bronze image of Chronos extending its hands palms up,
sloping towards the ground, so that each of the children
placed thereon rolled down and fell into a gaping pit
filled with fire. Two really important things here. When is

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this reoccurring theme that they made an actual gigantic brazen
bull like this big bronze statf It wasn't just like
there for for like looks that you would actually light
a fire in it, and you would put your kid
in the hands of the statue, and that they would
roll down. And in some retellings of this, it was

(02:01:13):
almost like mechanical, like you would put your kid into
the hands and the hands would like move around and
lift it up and dump it down a mouth like
it was a whole like disney World animatronic, sort of
like playground, the og disney World. This is the og
disney World. But you also this is the in my mind,
this is the most important part. He said that they

(02:01:34):
were accustomed to sacrificing to this god, the noblest of
their sons. So they're giving your the kid. This is
like rumpel Stiltskin rolls right, your force burn kid God
like their god. This ball or this Moloch. He didn't
want like your third one out. He didn't want the
one that had all sorts of developmental issues. He didn't

(02:01:54):
want the one that like lost his leg and something accident,
right he wants to. He wanted the best that you
had to offer. And over time, these elite families they
were like, well, I can afford to just have you know,
some peasant woman. I'll impregnate her, will raise well, like
I'll raise that baby, but that baby is being raised

(02:02:17):
just to be a sacrifice, so I don't have to
sacrifice like my quarterback, all star. You know that, dude, absolutely,
And that during the downfall of the Phoenician Empire and Carthage,
a lot of the advocates of this, this this molk practice,

(02:02:37):
they were blaming it on people for doing that. They
were saying, like, look, guys, the reason why our society
is in decline is because you keep giving us all
your scraps, Like we don't want you to sacrifice your scraps.
We need you to sacrifice like the best your family
has to offer, because this, again is a sympathetic magic
transference and saying like, look at what I'm willing to

(02:02:59):
give up in order for God to give me something
in return, to get those crops, to get the rain,
to get whatever. But if God realizes like dude, you're
just like humping and dumping, like you know, these street
urchins and then once they pop out a kid that's
got like, you know, a third ear or something, you
throw them into the fire and you're like, oh god,

(02:03:20):
here's my offering here. Look, this is how much I'm
worth to you. So then the gods like, I don't
want your scraps, and because of that, I'm now offended,
and now you're gonna lose every war that you run
into against the Romans. I'm oversimplifying that, but that was
the basic premise, is that they fell, their civilization fell
because they were no longer giving like the cream of

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the crop in these sacrifices.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
And it's just to play devil's advocate here for a second.
We got to understand too, that a lot of these
people writing about these other people were the winners, right,
because the Deodorus Sichlis, he was like a historian from
Sis and he's best known fighting on the history right
the Mediterranean region from mythical times to his own lifetime.

(02:04:07):
So technically it's like the Church writing about the Gnostics, right,
I'm sure the Gnostics are going to fall in here
somewhere with the Nastics.

Speaker 3 (02:04:15):
And this line of reasoning is also the main reason
that until the seventies, eighties, nineties that most of conventional
archaeology and history were like that didn't really happen. This
is just because the victors wrote all this crazy stuff
to make finding these sites. And they're like, as far
as I know, they haven't found one of these mechanical

(02:04:37):
Moloch bronze bulls that like does all this stuff. Doesn't
mean it's not out there though, where like, we're literally
still finding some of these sites, you know, as recent
is like one or two years ago. Okay, another version
fifty a D. Now we're beyond JC and they're talking
about offering a freeborn boy to Saturn. So now and

(02:04:57):
talking about the Carthaginians where perform until the destruction of
their city. So here's a link that this sacrificing your
kids to Crono sort of Saturn or to ball or Molloch.
This declines as soon as the Carthaginians are wiped off
of the map, which is literally what happens. We've got

(02:05:18):
Plutarch and eighty a D. This is going morning. What
I was just saying, with full knowledge and understanding, they
offered up their own children, and those who had no
children would buy little ones from poor people and cut
their throats as if there were many lambs or young birds. Meanwhile,
the mother stood by without a tear or moan. Should

(02:05:41):
she utter a single moan or let fall a single tear,
she had to forfeit the money, and her child was sacrificed. Nonetheless,
So you would find some poor family and be like, hey,
we'll give you one hundred bucks if we can sacrifice
your kid, so I don't have to sacrifice my kid
at the altar. But then the mom that you're paying

(02:06:02):
the hundred bucks to, she's got to watch this and
she has to stay neutral. She can't frown, she can't scream,
she can't cry, none of that. Otherwise you're like, oh,
I'll take the one hundred dollars back now, like noll
and void, and she still loses her kid. So again,
this is a nod to like those smiling masks and
that sardonic laughter they were talking about. And it also

(02:06:24):
said the whole area before the statue was filled with
loud noises of flutes and drums, so the cries of
the whaling should not reach the ears of the people.
So they were also trying to hide it from the
massive audience because it was done in public. They didn't
want everyone hearing babies scream, fuck up, shut up.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
You know, just fucking telling. And by the way, just
to add some context of this, because I think this
is important, right and again plain Devil's advocate. They're writing
about peoples that were essentially what seven hundred something years
before them, right, the car Carthage, Right, so Carthaginians. Yeah, Carthaginians.
It was way way before them. Similar to how if

(02:07:07):
we write about the mind or something, it's thousands of
years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
Correct. And the point being here though, is that no
one ever stopped talking about this. This said, like we're
showing yeah, sixth century BC, fourth century BC, third century one,
you know, ten BC, the city on them. They're they're
constantly talking about Tertullian one AD in Africa and again Africa,

(02:07:33):
that the top of Africa was to is Tunisia today
was old Carthage in Africa, infants used to be sacrificed
to Saturn quite openly. Uh, Tiberius took the priests themselves
and on the very trees of the temple, under the
shadow of their crimes had been committed, hung them like
votive offerings on crosses, and the soldiers of my own

(02:07:56):
country are witnessed to it, who serve that pre count
in that very task. Yes, and to this day that
holy crime persists in secret. So here you got someone
that's saying, this is not me writing about something that
happened hundred years ago, that my soldiers went to the
same area, the same kar modern dy Carthage in two

(02:08:19):
hundred a d. And was still finding people, not doing
it in public, but doing it in secret. But the
exact same practice that we heard Plato talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:08:28):
And Tertullian, the first diologian to write in Latin, the
father of Latin Christianity as well as the founder of
Western theology. Just throwing that out there.

Speaker 3 (02:08:38):
And for some geographic context too, the reason why Carthage
is so important. You've got I've got a little map here,
but Carthage is on the very northern tip of Africa
and it's basically directly across from Sicily. So anyone that
controlled this area, whoever controlled Carthage, essentially controlled any one

(02:09:00):
passing through the Mediterranean Sea across Sicily. And this also
made the Sicilians. They have lots of this Carthaginian Phoenician
culture in Sicily because Sicily became this highly contested military spot.
It was very strategic to have control over Carthage and

(02:09:20):
over Sicily.

Speaker 2 (02:09:22):
Which the Phoenicians are important too, right because they were
what twenty five OHO one BC.

Speaker 3 (02:09:28):
Right well, that the Phoenicians would just refer to any
of the seafaring people that kind of came from the
Canon or that area that made their way all the
way over to the Iberian Peninsula, like this entire area
all around the edges of the Mediterranean Sea were technically
Phoenicians at some point, while Carthaginians they were literally just

(02:09:50):
here in Carthage. And Carthage became the new capital of
the Phoenicians once the Canan basically falls out of favor
and they lose their their culture over time. It fascinating history,
or we'll keep it going four hundred AD Polus Osiris
Eurosius Paulus Erosius. Carthage was founded by d Dao seventy

(02:10:14):
two years before the founding of Rome. The Carthaginians had
always had domestic and internal misfortunes. When they were suffering
from plagues, they resorted to the homicides instead of medicines,
and they sacrificed human beings as victims and offered young
children at their altars, and this way they aroused even

(02:10:34):
the pity of the enemy. So another version here we
ask trees against histories against the Pagans. So it's a
little bit loaded there, oh bias. Okay, here's where we're
gonna get freaking way crazy. And I don't I haven't
seen anyone bring this up in any of their other
talks about Samerian culture and all this. So this was

(02:10:56):
an Egyptian famine of the year twelve oh one AD.
And in this guy, this guy is writing a diary
while this Egyptian famine is happening, So he writes it
in the year twelve oh one Abd a Latif, and
he writes at Atfi, a grocery store was found to
contain jars full of human flesh pickled in water and salt.

(02:11:21):
It happened one night that a young slave girl was
playing with a newly weaned infant, the child of a
rich private citizen. While the child was by her side,
a beggar woman sees that very moment, when the slave's
eyes were turned away, tore open the child's stomach and
began to eat the flip raw and then it says,

(02:11:44):
there's another quote from this guy's diary, rich people in
decent circumstance also shared in this detestable barbarism and did
it out of greed and to satisfy a taste for it.
So this is going to bring us all the way
back to the frazzle drip and when I was talking
about the amuse boosh and why would you go through
all of this. Here's a guy in twelve oh one

(02:12:07):
that's saying that, yes, people were openly eating children in public.
They were serving human remains in grocery stores because of
a famine that no one could afford to get or
even find meat or crops or any other normal way
they would survive, so they had to resort to cannibalism
and mass Yet there were rich people that could afford

(02:12:29):
regular food. But they were like, well, hell if all
these poor people are just eating you know, infants out
in public, I guess this is our time to shine,
Like we can do it without batting an eye. So
this is a historical document, whether or not you want
to believe it's true. But this guy was writing in
twelve oh one saying that rich people were eating children
because they wanted to.

Speaker 2 (02:12:50):
And this guy was again a physician, philosopher, historian, Arabic
Grammarian traveler, and one of the most volaminous, voluminous writers
of his time. This is eleven sixty two and yeah,
born in Baghdad, Iraq. And I love how he says
began to eat the flesh quite raw. Yeah, no shit,
how else would you eat it? You know? Like?

Speaker 3 (02:13:13):
Okay? Fourteen twenty eight, here's another account. This is Johannes
Fround and the Valley of Valais. I'm probably mispronouncing all
of that, but he said that, according to his account,
there were victims accused of murder, heresies, sorcery, being impacts
with the devil, and they were paying tribute to the devil,

(02:13:33):
who appeared as a black animal like a bear or
a ram, and the devil asked his followers to avoid
holy mass and confession. He said that some of the
accused were tortured to death without issuing confession, while others
confessed a variety of evil deeds such as causing lameness, blindness, madness, miscarriage, impotence, infertility,

(02:13:56):
and killing and eating their own children. Here's another example
fourteen twenty eight of a historical account of people that
were killing and eating their own children, according to this guy,
Johannes Frond, nineteen sixty eight. So here, remember, I will
say before like no one even believed any of this
was happening until like the seventies. This is one of

(02:14:17):
the very first versions of it. Nineteen sixty eight the
book called The Life and Death of Carthage by Gilbert
and Colette Picard, and they talked about that around these
statues of bal Hammond they would dig these fires or
these tafits, and that it was surrounded by musicians and dancers.

(02:14:37):
A priest would bring a child dedicated to the god
already killed according to secret rites, and lay him in
the statue's arms, where he would roll into the flames. Flutes,
tambourines and lears would drown the cries of the parents,
who led the dancers into a wild dance. There was
in fact a taboo which sends to see cry out

(02:15:00):
or listen for the child. We mentioned all this before,
already this is like you gotta do this, you can't
even cry about it. And they wore these terra cotta
masks which showed these like big smiles because they weren't
allowed to actually offend the god during this process. So
this was very controversial. When this came out in nineteen
sixty eight, heavily debated. A lot of people were like, Oh,

(02:15:23):
this is just nonsense. This is Roman history. You know,
Victor's writing the record and that who knows what the
Carthaginians really did. So this this is one of the
earliest examples in like modern studies that kind of pointed
to all this.

Speaker 2 (02:15:39):
Are there any references to Juno chrome in Eyes Wine, Chuck, No,
I don't believe so. No, remind me of that, you
know in the whole ser.

Speaker 3 (02:15:50):
No, but they do. That movie is arguably about child
abduction because the it's about the family they give up
their daughter that gets taken away by these elite in
order for him to get access to this secret society.
So we're starting to come full round. We mentioned Elizabeth
Bathrie before he went into this wild historical tangent to

(02:16:12):
Marina Abramovic, it's basically the same concept. You've got spirit
cooking right where you've got like these Hollywood they're making
like this big performative art around it. In the pictures. Here,
you've got Lady Gaga, you've got Gwen Stefani is in
one of those. Here, okay, here's one of the Clinton emails.

(02:16:35):
Is that all things are going to have to come
back to either Huxley or Clinton. So the one particular
message this is email number one five eight nine three
if you want to check my receipts. And this was
sent from Marina Abramovic to Tony Podesta, and it said,
I am so looking forward to the spirit cooking dinner
at my place. Do you think you'll be able to

(02:16:55):
let me know if your brother is joining. This is
immediately followed by an email from Tony Podesta to his
brother John that says, hey, are you in New York
City Thursday, July ninth? Marina wants so here we've got
blood sacrifice rituals, maybe artsy versions of it, and these

(02:17:16):
elite societies, these elite families are corresponding and doing somewhat
similar practices, even if it's just performative. It is the
closest correlation that we've got into, like modern day version
of this. Great time to bring up the Podesta art collection.
We already mentioned Damien Hurst, who made the adrinachrome. He's

(02:17:37):
also a name that shows up in the Podesta Art collection.
You've got this sculpture from Luis Bourgeois, which should get
cited as the final position of some of Jeffrey Dahmer's victims.
They would like arch their back up and turn weird. Well,
that was from this painting. From the sculpture from Louis Bourgeois,

(02:18:00):
that's the actual one that Podessa's got in his house there,
and she based that on these these premises of schizophrenia
and of like people going through these weird neurological disorders
that had been documented since the medieval ages. Well, that
is basically dementia precox. It's it's tangential, the same thing

(02:18:22):
the Scottish Rite ends up looking into in the nineteen thirties.
We've also got a painting that is owned by I
believe Tony or John Podesta. It's called We're Bringing an
Old Friend over for Dinner, and it has these two
guys literally eating the body of another guy that's laying
down on a slab. And then you've got even creepier stuff.

(02:18:44):
I can't remember how to pronounce your name, Bil Hannah Jerjovek.
That's like all these kids that are like bound and
tied and have like Weltz on them and they're crying
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:18:54):
And red bottoms which.

Speaker 3 (02:18:56):
Is red butt cheeks. Yeah, this is just a small
of the Podesta art Colutch, just normal stuff that you
would have. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:19:03):
Who looks at the sort of stuff and goes, man,
I want that right up in the entrance of my house.
That's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (02:19:09):
How much is that? How many millions worth? Every penny?
Two of them?

Speaker 2 (02:19:13):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:19:14):
Okay, here's where pizzagate starts to come into this hole
Adrina Chrome Child's sacrifice, Like it's all this one big bubble.

Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
We're starting to By the way, the guy who shot
up Comet Peak Ping Pong or whatever Comet pizza he just.

Speaker 3 (02:19:27):
Recently got merked, right, Yeah, he got pulled over by
a cop. He brandished a weapon allegedly, and now we'll
never hear from that guy again. Yep, that same guy.
Very topical, by the way, that same guy. This is
all based on another one of these emails, and the
email this is all it says, the realtor found a handkerchief.

(02:19:51):
I think it has a map that seems pizza related.
Is it yours? That's that's where all of the pizzagate
And I would argue a of the friend. All this stuff,
it all comes from this one email about a pizza
related handkerchief or a map about pizza. This is where
all the speculation comes from. Well, interestingly, journalists who reportedly

(02:20:15):
debunked Pizzagate charged of two counts of of PDF files
you count. So I don't want to say I want
to give that word power. If you want to, then
that's all more power to you. But this is the guy,
Slade Sammer, four charges of possession of this cash bail,

(02:20:39):
John Podesta's friend who debunked Pizzagate, arrested for grape jews toddlers.
So this is the guy and he and here's an
actual tweet from John Podesta, thanks Slade for sleuthing out
the origin of this sin call. So he's like, yo,
thanks for taking this heat off of me, making all
these conspiracy theorists look like a bunch of idiots, and

(02:21:00):
then about wow, wow, yeah, jud the actual John Podesta added,
the actual Slade who actually was working as a quote
unquote journalist to debunk all this pizza Gate stuff. And
he ends up getting arrested for doing the exact thing
that he said.

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
Yeah, both of them.

Speaker 3 (02:21:23):
Okay, here we're getting we're getting close to the end here.
This is where you were saying before, like, oh, you know,
most people, and then it turned out to be nine percent,
but then it turned out to be like twenty three
percent if you round up on who believes and.

Speaker 2 (02:21:38):
Fuck it right.

Speaker 3 (02:21:39):
Well, here here's some actual studies, so I don't have
to shoot from the hip. I've got the real receipts. Here.
We're gonna find out exactly how many people. So this
is a from a study from the Sioux Fan Center,
and it's called Quantifying the q Conspiracy, a data driven
approach to understanding the threat posed by QAnon some long name,

(02:22:00):
but I implore you to look this up yourself and
read it. This is mind blowing study. So they had
they this was based on interviews conducted between November of
twenty twenty through February of twenty twenty one, so like
two or three months in change. And they sampled nine thousand,
three hundred and eight US adults all across different belief systems, classes,

(02:22:25):
political affiliations. Just a wide sampling of close to ten
thousand people. It's a decent sample size when you come
to this very niche type of question. So here's the
questions that they asked them. Here's a statement statement voter
fraud played a significant role in the twenty twenty presidential election.

(02:22:49):
So out of ten thousand people, forty three point eight
so nearly half of all the people polled said that
they do believe that voter fraud played a significant role
in the twenty twenty presidential election. This is a little
bit crazy, just because this is not a small minority.
This is r I mean, this is more than four

(02:23:10):
out of ten people all agreeing that, you know, this
fundamental right to vote is just worthless because it's been manipulated.
We're not even there yet. These are like the vanilla
questions they ask them. They asked the question three times December, January,
and February, and you can see imagine they get the
first result and they say, crap, people are actually believing

(02:23:33):
in this. We need to start more fact checking. We
need more snoops articles, more fact checker or yeah, we
need like the Meta and the Facebook fact checkers and
all that. After they start enacting that, then you can
see some of these numbers shift around a little bit.
So it goes from forty four percent to about forty
one percent, and it kind of stabilizes there, but this

(02:23:56):
is still over four and ten people that believe that
the elections were compromised. Here's another question, question which of
the following do you believe are or maybe true that
COVID nineteen was created in a lab? Thirty percent of
people thought it was created in a lab when they

(02:24:17):
first asked. Then it went to thirty four percent of people,
and then went back down people again, but again three
out of ten believing that the coronavirus was made in
a lab. That also was like, WHOA, this is supposed
to be a fringe theory. I can't believe that this
many people believe in it. Okay, these were vanilla. Here's
where it gets really interesting. I consider myself a q

(02:24:42):
andon member, believer, or supporter. They got about twenty two
percent of people, two out of ten people out of
ten thousand that they asked to align themselves with q
and on in some way or at least supported the
QAnon movement. So this this is getting kind of crazy.
All right, here's one I believe that elites, politicians and

(02:25:06):
celebrities are involved in a global pedophile ring. Twenty six
point seven percent of people the first time they asked it.
But look at this jump in January of twenty twenty one,
forty one point three percent. Just take a step back
and think about this. That four and ten normal people, right,

(02:25:28):
a random sampling of ten thousand people in America, that
four and ten believed that politicians and elites were running
global pedophile rings. So this was blowing the minds of
the people that ran this survey. They were expecting nine percent,
five percent, some crazy tiny minority. They were not expecting
that four and ten people believe that politicians were running

(02:25:52):
these pedophile rings. So here's here's one of their conclusions.
Two in five people, an average of thirty five percent
of respondents believe in child trafficking conspiracies that involve the
global elite. Two and five. That's wild, Right, go into
a room that's got ten people in there and assume

(02:26:14):
that four of those ten people believed that there were
child trafficking like pedophile rank.

Speaker 2 (02:26:19):
That's what I'm saying, bro, Like, a majority of people
that you talk to will more than likely lean towards
this conspiracy. And I've experienced that even on a personal level,
you have a conversation with somebody and they you know,
people especially who aren't conspiratorial or esoteric or a cult minded.
And they start to ask you, like the quiessic, So,

(02:26:40):
so what do you think about the uh, the X,
Y and Z. You think that it really happened, And
it's like it's in the back of their minds. Is
it Hollywood? Is it news?

Speaker 3 (02:26:48):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (02:26:48):
What is it? I mean it might be a little
bit of everything.

Speaker 3 (02:26:53):
Well, well, they asked this question, and I'm pretty sure
they're freaked out because at the conclusion of this study,
here's what they say, because they basically are saying, like,
this is crazy, this should not be the case. We're
losing to the conspiracy theorists. So they make five suggestions. One,
the government us remove the key element allowing for any

(02:27:14):
conspiracy theory to thrive, which is crisis. They basically equate
that crisis to the COVID nineteen pandemic. So they're basically saying,
you guys need to fix this COVID nineteen thing because
the longer it goes on, the less trust people have
in the system, and the less trust they have in
the system, the more they're open to these wild conspiracy

(02:27:36):
theories that they're reading online. So now COVID nineteen becomes
a threat to the global pedophile rings in a very
indirect way, right, But it's the thing that makes people
open their minds in their hearts to these crazy theories.
Two social media companies need to re examine their de
platforming approaches. Now I believe this is pre Alex Jones

(02:27:59):
getting deep platform. This is before people on YouTube are
just getting all of their accounts just completely batted away,
before Elon buys Twitter. So this is peak sort of
censorship online. And I would argue that some of that
came from this particular study. This siux Fan Center is
basically a think tank of ex military XCIA revolving door

(02:28:23):
between the United States government and private industry. So the
report they put out absolutely being read by the top
levels in our government because it's their friends. They're they're
jumping in, Sue Fan, They're going back to the government.
They're just like it's a revolving door. They also said
number three social media companies need to refine their algorithms

(02:28:45):
which continue to recommend toxic QAnon related content. So they're
specifically saying, if you know, if your social media platform
is repeating anything about these questions about trafficking rings, or
about COVID nineteen or a drenochrome. They mentioned by name
that they need to figure out how to filter out
adrenochrome for community oriented and offline solutions. Some of the

(02:29:11):
examples here were like having people confront maybe having like
the sheriff show up at your door and like, hey,
you've been spreading. You can kind of see them doing
this in the UK, right, you post something spicy online
and the police are at your door, even if they're
not there to arrest you. It's like we're watching and
we don't like what you're doing. You're on our radar now,

(02:29:34):
like settle it down. And then finally number five, the
Biden administration should consider working with Congress and civil society
organizations to determine if the battle against this information warrants
the creation of a new interagency organization. We're talking about

(02:29:55):
a new CIA or a new FBI or a DEA
that is typically targeted at social media. So like now
instead of you know, the DEA regulating drugs or atf
regulating alcohol, alcohol, tobacco, firearms, now there's gonna be another
alphabet agency that regulates memes, that regulates conspiracy theories.

Speaker 2 (02:30:16):
The mimetic task Force.

Speaker 3 (02:30:18):
Bro Right, it's probably a real thing at this point, man,
And that's the that's the end of this shorthand presentation.
We can get out of here. It's my rumble, my
ax my ig, all the things.

Speaker 2 (02:30:34):
And dude, here's the thing, man, Like I'm still on
the fence about it. Right, Is it true?

Speaker 3 (02:30:40):
Could it?

Speaker 2 (02:30:40):
Could it be true? And here's the problem. Right, So
you showed all of these historical contexts, these movies and everything,
and it goes back to like the homunculous argument where
some people will try it just because they read it somewhere,
they saw something about it somewhere, and they're gonna go
ahead and try. Like if you look at you know,
you brought up the arch of a stair with Dahmer.

(02:31:01):
Dahmer was doing what he was eating dudes, you know,
he was eating people. And then there was like this
a cult aspect to Dahmer where he was creating an
altar that he never finished with, like these human skulls,
almost like some necromancy or something really really weird and
obviously a cult that he never got. And I think
that part of me says that this guy was able

(02:31:23):
to get away with it because maybe he was part
of some government agency, and they kind of because he did.
He did a lot of stuff, and there was a
lot of times where he should have been caught where
he wasn't. I don't know if that was negligence or
ignorance or if they knew about it right, and like, hey,
we're running this operation splinter cell or something. Let's let
this dude see how far we can get with it,

(02:31:43):
and let's let's go ahead and let him conduct some
of the stuff that we want to do. But then
we can just blame this fall guy. You know what
I'm saying, Like here, let.

Speaker 3 (02:31:52):
My mind goes, because that's how I've interpreted the whole
mk Ultra program. It's not it's not like the CIA
signed get in a room and they brainstorm what kind
of crazy things they can do to people. It's more
of them. It's it's like sending your scouts out to
South America and to Japan to look for those like
great baseball players to then bring over to your team. Well,

(02:32:14):
like the CIA would send their scouts out, but they'd
send them to Montreal or they would send them to
like all these different you know, universities and sort of
like sanitariums all across the country, and you wouldn't tell
them like, hey, we like what you're doing. I'm from
the CIA. Here's some money. Now you're in the CIA.
It didn't work like that. They would show up and
you would just have someone being like, yo, wan, I

(02:32:36):
love this homunculous researcher're doing. Would one hundred thousand dollars help?
Could you do more? They give you one hundred thousand
dollars to like really put some fuel on that fire,
and you'd be like hell yeah. And I'm like, all right, well,
if I give you one hundred grand to do more
of your homunculous studies, don't publish anything. First, give it
all to me so I can see what you're finding,

(02:32:58):
and then I'll let you know what can be published,
and I'm going to share it with my colleagues. And
I think that's probably how it happens. Like Dahmer might
have been the same thing, where it's like you're not
in the FBI, you're not in the CIA now, but
we like what you're doing, and we're gonna give you
a free pass so we can see how far you
can bring it. Since we're not allowed to do it ourselves,
cause did.

Speaker 2 (02:33:18):
He ever say why he did it.

Speaker 3 (02:33:20):
Fun for fun? I mean, I don't know if if
he ever gave a cohesive answer for exactly why. But
the most common theory was that he had massive abandonment
issues and part of him thought that by ingesting people
they would never leave him, which also goes into this
weird There's a new online fetish called voor v ore,

(02:33:45):
and this is ingesting a person into your body where
they're like still alive in you, but it's like the
closest you can ever be with someone is by literally
ingesting them or having them ingest you. And there's also
version of this where people will put ads out. I
think there was one in like Germany, or like voluntarily
became like a cannibalistic victim. It all has been correlated

(02:34:08):
to this same theory of like just not wanting.

Speaker 2 (02:34:11):
To be alone, And I mean, what what difference with that?
How is that different than government assisted suicide? Like, Hey,
I hit you up right? I know you're on grinder
paranorm American and you're into war and all that stuff,
and then somebody hits you up and it's like, hey, dude,
I want you to eat me. Man, I want you
to put me out of my misery. Then you go
ahead and do that. Because there was a case about
this dude who ate another guy and I think they

(02:34:34):
I think they might have charged him with murder. But
because you can't really prove that that person unless you
got the transcript, I don't know. I don't know how
that would work. But how is that any different than
the government letting you do that voluntarily? And something that
actually there's a story of that here in Orlando, believe
it or not, there was an example of a well
to do guy that puts an ad in Craigslist that

(02:34:56):
was looking for like odd ends and jobs.

Speaker 3 (02:34:58):
Someone was looking for. There was there's a there's a
TV series called Florida Man that re enacts this in
kind of a humorous way. But the guy there was
a guy karate teacher's toes. Yes, dude, there so there's
a guy was a karate teacher. This is here in Orlando.
He puts an ad on Craigslist or he sees an
out on Craigslist someone's like looking for like weird jobs. Anyways,

(02:35:21):
he shows up and he's gonna give this guy thousands
of dollars in order to cut off two of his toes,
cook them, and eat them in front of him. So
this is a more mild version of vore. As far
as I know, they never actually went through it, because
every time he went to go and chop the toes off,
the guy would yell out and then and he kept

(02:35:43):
being like, oh, what of my kids gonna think like
you got kids, like what are you doing? And then
they go to cut it again. He's like wait, wait, wait,
I'm a karate teacher. How am I gonna be able
to do? Guys like you should have figured all this
out yourself, like you're the one that had me come
to like chop your toes off and yeah, but then
he brought a friend with them and showed up like
that's so bizarre, bro, oh my god. So this isn't

(02:36:08):
something that you have to look and find in like
a weird like German newspaper, like this happened in my
neck of the woods here in Orlando. This is happening.
So it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that any large
population of people, you've got one or two that are
into war or that are into what you would, I guess,
like our modern version of this, like human or child sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
Oh my god, there is an HBO show called It's
Florida Man.

Speaker 3 (02:36:38):
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Yeah, It's Florida Man.

Speaker 2 (02:36:42):
What.

Speaker 3 (02:36:43):
Yeah, I highly recommend watching that episode. But it goes
to show that this isn't something that died with the
Carthaginians or the Phoenicians or that like some like this
is happening in just normal neighborhoods. And even in the
documentary they mentioned like how normal this guy was. He's
a karate teacher, he's got a family, he's got kid,

(02:37:05):
got like a functional job, a nice house. Like they
didn't just show up in like a random weird alley
and the guy comes out in like a gimpsuit, like
ready to go crazy. It was just a normal person
otherwise that you would expect them to be normal.

Speaker 2 (02:37:20):
Yaikes, dude, Yeah, this is crazy, and I know you
didn't touch on it. But there was also a medicinal
cannibalism going on during the I believe seventeenth or sixteenth
century as well, where there was in this epidemic of
people robbing old coffins and burial sites to bring out
the bodies.

Speaker 3 (02:37:39):
And eating mummy like little pieces of mummies and that
turns into its old thing. There's also a term called
medical vampurism or clinical vampirism, and this is also based
on the premise of bram Stoker's Dracula that was that
was another version of this migration of old blocklood libel

(02:38:00):
and like magical blood, like blood magic and cannibal magic,
but turned into the modern era because they were using
blood transfusions. They were doing the blood boy thing that
was the original premise of bram Stoker was essentially blood boys.

Speaker 2 (02:38:14):
Yeah. And also this goes back to the mellified man
and Chinese medicine. The first China was like human body
part to urine and the top of the skull of something,
you know. So it's been again the whole adrino chrome
and everything. You can lump it all in together. I'm
going to say that this exists. If it's for some

(02:38:39):
sort of magical rejuvenation of the tissue to become younger,
I think that's still up in the air. We know
that it has an effect as you cover on this presentation.
It has some sort of effect on people as to
if it works or they're making themselves believe it works.
That's up for debate, right, because then we can add
in all the other child's sacrifice, human sacrifice. Throughout all

(02:39:01):
of history they were doing it for some sort of sympathetic,
magical thing, and then nowadays it's like, hey, we're doing
it to live longer or whatever it is because we
like it.

Speaker 3 (02:39:12):
Well, I'll leave you on on one other thing to
look up. So that guy, doctor Abram Hoffer, he wrote
something in nineteen ninety six, I believe, and it was
called the Adrenochrome Hypothesis Revisited, And I believe this was
published in the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine. I got at

(02:39:32):
least eighty nine point eight percent of all that right.

Speaker 2 (02:39:36):
But in this the an Hypothesis of Schizophrenia Revisited correct.

Speaker 3 (02:39:40):
And in this paper, his revisited paper, this is where
he makes that claim about the LSD being triggered by adrenochrome.
He makes this claim that the people that survived the
bubonic plague might have had more predisposition to schizophrenia. But
it basically boils down to this one claim, and he

(02:40:01):
says that this is oversimplification. But if you were to
classify people into two different groups, you've got those that
are prone to cancer, and you've got those that are
prone to dementia or schizophrenia, and that the ones that
are more prone to schizophrenia tend to have less cancer
in their family line, meaning that if they do get cancer,

(02:40:22):
it won't be as malignant if they get if they
beat the cancer, there's a better chance and it won't
come back. They've even done studies that people that smoke cigarettes,
that those with dementia in their family lines get lung
cancer at far less of a rate wait way below
like a regular placebo or like a like a fifty
to fifty chance, so that if you have dementia in

(02:40:43):
your family line, there's a better chance that you'll survive
these pandemics, that you won't get cancer. And that also
people that have schizophrenia and dementia in their families tend
to in his words that I'm paraphrasing, not mine, that
they tend to be more creative, have a more youthful
look and expression, they have some sort of anti aging properties,

(02:41:07):
and that they don't wrinkle as much, or when they
do wrinkle, it's not as prevalent as that those that
aren't that don't have schizphreny and dementia, and the way
that I interpret the way that he's writing it is
almost like you go to the gym and you lift
the weights and you're breaking your muscle fibers right, and
they're regrowing. So every time you go to the gym

(02:41:27):
and you break more muscle fibers and more grow, you're
getting stronger and stronger at it. You're kind of training
yourself to be this big, badass. Well, imagine that if
you brought yourself to the brink of insanity, say you
rip the small child's face off and you ate it
in front of them, that might be one of these
things that would bring you to the very brink of insanity.

(02:41:49):
And if you can continuously bring yourself to that very
edge of insanity and then reel yourself back, you can
keep doing that. Is almost like going to the gym
and lifting muscles. Instead of tearing muscle fiber that regrows,
you're basically like tearing neurons. I guess to continue the analogy,
but that if you don't actually become insane, if you

(02:42:10):
don't actually become schizophrenic from this, then the more often
you do that, then you're building up this resistance to
becoming crazy. And that if you can build up that
resistance every time you bring yourself to the state of
madness or dementia, schizophrenia and real back if you don't
actually succumb to the disease known as schizophrenia or dementia,

(02:42:32):
then you are improving your entire lineage, your entire family,
your bloodlines, chances of beating pandemics, of being smarter, more creative,
having a more youthful expression. So there is some sort
of scientific basis based on this adrenachrome hypothesis or re
visited that doing these crazy things, taking psychedelics, torturing people,

(02:42:54):
having wildlife experiences could actually be some sort of out
into youth. Not for you that's doing it, but for
everyone that comes after you, your entire bloodline.

Speaker 2 (02:43:06):
Yeah, and that's exactly why this won't ever be on
YouTube because of those claims right there, dude, fascinating presentation.
This is really interesting. To really peel apart this conspiracy
and talk about it from more of a historical, mythological

(02:43:28):
and scientific point of view, you know, really opens up
your eyes as to why some people may think this
is real. Like I again, I'm on the camp that
I think it is real. I think there are people
doing this as to the extent of that, if it
is the elites or not, we want ever really know.
But yeah, dude, make sure Paranoidamerican dot com everyone and
check them out. If you're listening to this, make sure

(02:43:50):
I check it out on Rumble. And also let us
know what you think. If you think this is real,
you think this is not real, what your thoughts are
on the adrenochrome. Unveil research here by Paranoid American to say.

Speaker 3 (02:44:02):
And if you have access lab access to oqueous adrenochrome,
not the shelf stable semicarbozoone, but if you've got access
to pure adrenochrome that is stored at negative twenty degrees
and are willing to get that to me, I will
absolutely do it on a live stream. I'll do it
the exact same way that doctor Abram Hoffer writes about

(02:44:26):
doing it in the nineteen fifties. I think it's a
nineteen fifty three report. They take it blingually, they just
put it under They take pure adrenochrome, they put it
under their tongue, and they trip out for a couple
of hours. So I will do that. I don't want
to do expired EpiPens. It's way too It's not potent
enough anyways, and I don't want to stick any myself

(02:44:46):
in anything. But if I can get aqueous adrenochrome, I
will do it live on air. So look me up
and reach out to me if you can make that happen.

Speaker 2 (02:44:54):
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(02:45:15):
good stuff and we'll cut you guys on the next one. Bye.

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