Coquina Cowboys #22 | The Devil's Advocate (1997) EXPOSED - Paradise Lost, Santeria & Trump Tower... - Juan on Juan

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Speaker 7 (09:38):
What's up everyone?

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yo?

Speaker 7 (09:41):
How you guys doing? Happy Thursday? Everybody coming to you
Live from Lakeworth Beach, Florida. I'm a I'm doctor long
Ago from the Florida Department of Magic. This is uh
Juan Ayola. What's up? One?

Speaker 5 (09:59):
What's up? Reporting live from Kassimi, Florida, kissing me? Oh yeah,
Central Florida, the.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
Trash Heap, the trash Heap of.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
Florida, Little Puerto Rico.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
Yeah. Well, guys, we are talking about a special movie tonight,
very big movie, very big movie. It's huge. Okay, everyone
knows it. And that actually ties into that guy too
a little bit. But The Devil's Advocate nineteen ninety seven

(10:40):
blockbuster starring Keanu Reeves al Pacino. Okay, why are we
talking about this, well, we're into the occult esoteric studies,
and just so happens, The Devil's Advocate was set and

(11:02):
filmed in Florida partially. Of course, the second half of
the movie, or most of the movie takes place in
New York, but it starts and ends in Florida, and
we're going to discuss the role that Florida plays. But
we're also just going to break down the esoteric symbolism,

(11:27):
the conspiracy theories associated with it, some of the astrology,
of course, because that's always important when it comes to
dark magic in Hollywood and stuff like that. And yeah,
I'm usually not like a big Hollywood conspiracy theory guy,
but this one is worth digging into and very very

(11:49):
relevant to my Garden of Eden theories, right, Florida being
the Garden of Eden. We've talked about the history of
that theory on this YouTube channel, and yeah, that's that's
where we're going to be launching off from. But on on,
what do you got to say up front about The

(12:10):
Devil's Advocate.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
You said that you're not a big Hollywood conspiracy guy.
Why is that and what do you exactly mean by that?

Speaker 7 (12:19):
No, I mean of course I'm into it. I'm aware,
but that's also not to be not to be a
little but that's kind of like entry level conspiracy theory.
I don't want to be too snobby or anything, but
everyone knows how it goes, you know, nine to eleven
h Aliens and decoding Hollywood, right, Yeah, yeah, that's kind

(12:45):
of like where people start out. So I'm not talking
down on it. Of course we're doing it right now.
I think it's really cool, but it is like it's
not the most who knows. I'm down, bro.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
I was just curious. You know, this movie, I hadn't
seen it in many years, and I rewatched it yesterday actually,
and I was taking mental notes, and yeah, it does
start in Gainesville, Alachua County, and I found some interesting
connections to Florida. Obviously we have John Milton, which is

(13:26):
the main one of the main characters, the devil himself.
And also we are going to be getting into some
spoilers as far as the movie goes and as far
as the book goes. So there are some differences from
the book. I've never read the book, but from my
understanding of doing research, it does change quite a bit.
At the end of the book, he actually kills the

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devil and then he goes to jail for life. And
in the movie we know what happens. He takes the shot,
wakes back up and kind of sort of gets a
second chance and kind of was able to see the
future in a way. But at the end of it all,
the devil, which is his father, which I don't believe

(14:09):
was the scenario in the book, you know, is still
watching over him. And we got into Paradise Loss as
well with John Milton. We had Hurricane Milton hit going
up through Cista Key recently, which was the It's interesting
because in this movie Milton is the devil or Lucifer

(14:30):
Satan himself and Milton was the hurricane that received the
ashes of that one hurricane hunter meteorologists scientist guy that they.

Speaker 7 (14:45):
Yep, sacrifice. Yeah, we'll pull it up later though. That
was crazy.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Yeah, I've got it here somewhere in a in this
small slide show that I put together. But yeah, it
was interesting. And looking further into it, dude, the it
turns out that they're right because Paradise Loss. I don't
have the exact quote, but it's better to reign in

(15:11):
hell than to serve in heaven or something along those lines.
And it turns out that Florida does have a paradise
that was lost, and it was lost in Gainesville. So
it turns out that there was a paradise Florida at
one right that was.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
We'll slow down here, man, we don't want to show
all our cards right away.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Dude, I'm going.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Yeah, it's already so much to talk about. Now we
should get a little bit, give a little bit of
a rundown of the movie for those who haven't seen it.
And let's let's see a show of hands in the chat.
What emoji should we pick?

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Oranges?

Speaker 7 (15:59):
Orange is now, people are just gonna spam oranges anyway,
an easy one, an easy A devil emoji?

Speaker 5 (16:07):
No, you know that emojis are linked to goetic magic
and demonic sigils, so I don't know if you want to.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
Go at it emojis, Guys, drop a devil emoji in
the chat. If you've seen Devil's Advocate. If you've seen
Devil's Advocate, because we're gonna be we're gonna be spoiling
some stuff here. Okay, it's a full movie breakdown.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
It's Freeeezer with ads on Plex so you can just
google The Devil's Advocate and watch it for free. So
and by the way, the first script of this movie,
the oppatuno didn't want to take the role because he
thought it was too cliche sort of you know, the
Satan character. And they actually offered him the movie five

(16:52):
times and he didn't pick it up until they had
rewrote the script and they had actually picked up I
believe it was Brad Pitt to play in the first
revisions of the movie, and it was supposed to take
place in a subway in New York that where I
believe the different the nine different circles of Hell. So
this movie did go through some changes. There was also

(17:14):
a prequel that the author wrote because it is loosely
based off a book. Who he pitched it to I
believe it was Warner Bros. Or somebody. He pitched it
to somebody to do a series on, and it was
gonna be detailing the story of John Milton when he
took over the law firm, so you know, him growing

(17:36):
up and everything. And I believe there was you know,
I was looking around the internet. Some people say Constantine
is sort of like a spin off. I've also heard
that there's another movie with I have to find the
name of it. I think it's with Is it Denzel Washington?

(17:56):
That's sort of the same similar thing and could kind
of be based in the same universe. Is this movie?
But yeah, I don't know where you want to begin.
You want to give a rundown of the movie. Essentially,
it's a it's a guy who's never lost the case,
who is based out of Gainesville, Florida, Kevin Lomax. And
it's interesting because I found a connection between Ilatchua and

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or here.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
Hang on, hang on, let's let's go. Let me give
a rundown in the movie. Okay, before we start, go
in piece by piece. It's about Keanu Reeves. Okay, he
is a Florida boy, right, He's a lawyer. He's about

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thirty years old, right, which is kind of important, somewhat right,
roughly the age Jesus started his ministry, you could say.
And he's a lawyer. And he, like Juan said, he's
never lost a case. He's like a Southern lawyer, right,
got an accent. This is North Florida. We're talking about Gainesville,

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between Gainesville and Jacksonville. It was filmed too. But he's
when the movie starts, he's defending a p word a
PDF file against a girl, young girl who's accusing him, right,
so he has to represent this scumbag. He kind of

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looks the other way, so to speak, because he knows
the guy's guilty. And then he also but nonetheless he
wins the case, right, And the kind of story that's
going on on the side a little bit is that
the devil is noticing how good he is at representing

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like the worst of the worst. So he starts out
with this PDF file. Then he gets recruited, he wins
the case they're selling, rating, he gets recruited. So Keanu
Reeves gets recruited out to New York to go work
with this fancy, fancy law firm kind of where he's
the legal representative for this firm, and they do a

(20:13):
whole bunch of stuff. Law is just a part of it,
and you figure out it's dirtier and deeper and more
corrupt than that. But big fancy law firm he's transitioning
to up in New York. Well, first they want to
try him out. And by the way, he's married already.

(20:34):
I think he's already married. Charlie's Farron mary Anne, and
when the movie starts, she's got long, curly blonde hair.
She looks great.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Angel curls.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Yeah. Then, and she's very supportive of everything Keanu wants
to do. Kevin write, his name's Kevin Lomax. She's very
supportive of Kevin. Well, they decide to go up to
New York try out this new law firm. It's very fancy.
All the people live in fancy buildings and condos or

(21:14):
a part of this firm. And of course the boss
is al Pacino, so you kind of get a dramatic
leading up to when he meets the boss and boom
he meets al Pacino and all this stuff. Well, he
gets hired, blah blah blah. They know he's very he's
very talented, right, he's never lost a case, he doesn't

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plan on losing any and he was willing to look
the other way in terms of his clients incriminating themselves.
You know, he'd kind of cover up for it or
he would put his morals to the side. Well, then
they kind of test him. They're testing him to make
sure he's bulletproof, so he has to represent The next

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thing he represents is a animal sacrifice case where this
like voodoo priest, Santuria priest is sacrificing ghost lambs in
the basement of a New York you know bourban environment

(22:20):
not allowed of course, sanitation issue, animal abuse issue. So
he has to represent this animal abuser or this you
know guy partaking an animal sacrifice and he's like the
lowest of the low, he's like dirt poor. But you
realize that he's he and the highest of the highest

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society are on the same page. So the voodoo priest
at the bottom of you know, the social.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
But he wasn't though, you know, you had fifteen million
in the bank exactly.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
Either al Pacino was lying. Eventually he says, oh, yeah,
that guy had fifteen million dollars to pay for himself,
but he doesn't look like he's living a fifteen million
dollar lifestyle. So either al Pacino was lying and covering
for him and they were willing to pay because they're
on the same side spiritually, the elite of New York.

(23:19):
Or it's that that guy was so well connected on
his own, he had all this all this money, this
voodoo priest, and we're going to get into it. We're
gonna go scene by scene a little bit, but so
he represents the animal sacrificer. They get off. They get
off on a deal. We're going to talk about what
deal or what the technicality was with the precedent they

(23:42):
used was making sure that I think there's music, someone's
playing music or something. But he gets this guy off, okay,
he gets the voodoo priests off, and they use religious
freedom as kind of the justification. Then he has to

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represent someone even worse. He has to represent a guy
who just m worded key worded. Okay, his wife slain
his wife, Okay, killed his wife. You can say it
on YouTube. I don't know whatever, but this guy shot

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his wife, still has a kid that's alive, acting like
he didn't do it. Keanu now has to represent this guy,
and where that's filmed is very interesting. Who that guy's
character was modeled after the man who's accused of the crime.
All that we're going to get to. But so they're

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testing Kanu. He has to represent kind of a bigger
and a bigger scumbag each time, more and more evil,
and eventually you realize who's the boss of this firm
that wanted to hire out of the blue pull him
away from his homeland. His boss is the devil. Al
Pacino's the devil, so al Pacino. He's acting crazy, he's

(25:10):
acting like he's on cocaine. He's acting like he belongs
to a certain religion.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Very flamboyant, he is all over.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
The place, very quintessential al Pacino performance. Okay, but that's
really it the ending. Yeah, they eventually realize he's the devil,
and Keanu's wife, it's especially hard on his wife. She
kind of realizes this before Keanu does. Mary Anne realizes

(25:43):
this before Kevin does. And yeah, their life falls apart
and it ends pretty tragically. But then there's a twist
at the end, right, Like Wan said, they come back
and are given seemingly another chance, but it might be
another trick by the devil, because the ultimate twist at
the end is that Keanu is the son of the devil,

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son of Satan, and then commits the s word, commits
sushi side okay uh in order to like escape the track,
the trap, or to escape the life that he's trapped in.
But he comes back and voila. Like Juan said, the

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Devil's right back again. Because he's his son. He can't
escape that, you know, But another thread going throughout this
movie is that Keanu's mom. So Kevin's mom is super
super religious and got knocked up by Satan when she
was visiting New York. Okay, so that is that's pretty

(26:57):
much the story the rundown.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
You miss one important part, bro, What is it? At
the end, he wanted him to have relations with his
half sister in order to birth the Antichrist that was
supposed to take over everything, and he didn't accept that,
and he did it. Then that's when he committed sushi
side And you're right, that's when Satan or John Milton

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gets super pissed off. And I took it the other
way around. So the ending right when he's given this
sort of second chance to kind and he loses his
first case. When I saw that, I took it as
that the devil. His dad has been working in the
background in his favor, almost like a Faustian bargain to

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help him be the best lawyer there ever was. And
that's why he never lost the case, because I think
that his father was always around and even though Satan
and that archetype they don't He claims that he doesn't
make people do things, but he kind of sort of
gives them the tools to do things. And one of

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the main scenes is the subway scene with the Hispanic
guy where he's telling him, like, Yo, your chick is
with Carlos or something like that on your green sheets
doing some stuff, and he's about to do some stuff
to her. Why don't you go put that knife where
it belongs. So he didn't tell him, hey, go do

(28:33):
that thing, but you can already see where the dude's
mind was, and he kind of was manipulated to go
do that, right, And that was the whole thing about
free will, and that's why he did what he does.
Like do we even have free will? Or is it
all just scripted?

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Yeah? Yeah, because Satan is supposed to be the master
of this world and astro theologically, Satan is Saturn who's
also in control of time. Well, let's let's start at
the beginning in Florida, and right off the bat, why

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did they set this movie in Florida? They took the
story to New York, but why did it start in Florida. Well,
the movies filmed Slash set in Alachua County, Florida, Gainesville,

(29:31):
but also partially in Jacksonville. So on the other on
the east coast. But Alachua is kind of north central Florida.
And Alachua is very interesting because it's where the Seminole

(29:51):
Indians are said to have came out of It's also
where some of the earliest openly Jewish people in Florida,
uh first came to live and settle. And it's one
of the first one of the earliest inland towns in Florida, right,

(30:13):
was in Alachua County. And this goes back to the
Levee family. One would you mind looking up for me,
Moses Levy, Florida, Liz.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Moses Elias Elias Levey. Yeah, they have like the gold Yeah,
you got me pull this up for you here in
a second, we gotta put on the dark mode for
this is crazy, all right. So here we go from Morocco.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
Is this guy yep, a Moroccan Sephardic Jew who was
also involved in the slave trade, who was one of
the early developers in Florida, like the seventeen hundreds, So
before the United States was even the country, you had

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the settlement happening in Florida that was called New Jerusalem.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Right.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
See if you can keyword Alachua in there.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
He purchased a fifty three thousand acres of land in
what is now Lake City, Florida, near the Saint John's River.
He later bought more land and what is now Alachua
County and Marion County, Florida, establishing a sugar plantation called
Hope Hill.

Speaker 7 (31:37):
Yeah. Yeah, and his son, what's his name fuck, David Juley,
David Levy Ulia. His son David Juley became Florida's first
senator and America's first Jewish senator, And they were involved

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in the Confederates the slave trade, and much of the
Confederate gold ended up on their land. There's another movie
that we're gonna be talking about soon called Ulee's Gold, which,
like which was like a total sciop movie to throw
people off the trail of the actual Yulei family. But
another for another time. Ala Chua, Gainesville, that area the

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Seminole Indians came out of there, who on on my
YouTube channel, I've argued that they have Semitic heritage, the
Seminole Indians who would have thought not enough time to
go on go into that right here, but we know
that some of the earliest Jewish people in Florida settled
that area. Like Moses Juli, and he started a place

(32:50):
a utopia, Jewish utopia, h jeutopia, you could call it,
called New Jerusalem, and it was supposed to be the
place where all of the Jews from Eurasia and Africa
could escape too. That kind of worked out for a
couple of years or so, but eventually they just moved

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to all the different parts of Florida. So Number one,
the movie starting out in Alachua, why there's a little
bit of hidden history there with the seminoles with early
Jewish presence, but Florida in general, North Florida did why

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did they go the early Jewish settlers go to that
part of Florida. Well, it's on the same latitude as
Jerusalem as Israel thirtieth latitude, thirty first latitude. The northern border,
the northern state line of Florida is the thirty first
latitude parallel north, which splits right through the middle of

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the Jerusalem. But North Florida in general has been said
for a long time, ever since Florida was discovered fifteen
thirteen or so, that Florida was the Garden of Eden,
or the Fountain of Youth or Paradise in some way,
and the first Europeans to arrive to Florida really did

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think that they acted like that and what they saw,
what they heard in these lands led them to believe that.
So number one, the Fountain of Youth, Florida's the highest
concentration of freshwater springs in the world. You've got Ee Callaway,
Florida's nineteen thirty six Republican candidate for governor talking about

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the Garden of Eden potentially being in Florida. That was
in the nineteen hundreds, you know, nineteen thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, seventies.
But going back to the fifteen hundreds, Columbus talked about
the Biblical Paradise being in the Caribbean, and yeah, what else,

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tons and tons of references of Florida being Paradise or
the Garden of Eden, Fountain of Youth, Arcadia, whatever you
want to call it. You know, there's places names all
over Florida of all these different mythical places that different
cultures kind of liken Florida to. So that's kind of

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the lore that's always been around Florida, the reputation of
some type of Garden of Eden. And again, if you
want to dig into the specifics. Go check out my
Garden of Eden videos with e Callaway. But just for
the sake of this movie, we're setting the stage of paradise.

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Paradise in Florida. That idea is five hundred years old,
if not more. Okay, North Florida, specifically Chua. So the
early Jewish settlers really thought that way. They said, this
is going to be the new Jerusalem. Right, it's roughly
on the same latitude across the Atlantic, and that's what
they were sitting out to do. So the beginning of

(36:14):
this movie starts out with kind of a sense of innocence.
Yes he's a lawyer, Kevin Lomax, Keanu Reeves. Yes he's
a lawyer, an attorney, a trial attorney, defending some of
the worst to the worst. But where he's from, he doesn't.
It's almost like he doesn't know any better, or he's

(36:35):
you know, he's innocent so to speak, no no pun
intended or whatever. He's like a ignorant of city life
and things like that. He's just a small town city boy.
He just thinks that's part of the law. You know,
if I'm going to be a good lawyer, I have
to put up with the worst of the worst. But

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the fact that he's in Florida is kind of like
a representation. It's like they're painting a picture of innocence.
It's almost like he's in the Garden of Eden, even
though he's acting, even though he's doing the devil's work,
right the law, The devil's in the details Alistair Crowley,

(37:19):
Love is the law, right love underwill, right the law,
the devil, Lucifer libra, the seventh sign of the zodiac,
the serpent in the tree. This all goes hand in hand, right,
the law and the devil. But forget the fact that
he's an attorney and he's representing scumbags. It's almost like

(37:40):
he's in the garden of Eden, and Florida kind of
represents that garden of Eden. And I think some of
these Hollywood writers executives know a little bit of that lore, right.
Many of them have probably happened to be Jewish, many
of many of their families probably trace their history back
to the Confederate South or Florida in general. Yeah, tons

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of history or rich history that the average person doesn't
really know about. But anyone who's a little interested in
the occult and the hidden history of Florida. It does
trace you back to Florida. Sorry, the Hidden History of
America does trace you back to Florida. So I think
the Garden of Eden, or at least Paradise Fountain of Youth. Right,

(38:24):
this sense of innocence is being stressed by setting the
beginning of the movie in Florida. His mother is very religious, right,
They go to a church and it's revealed that Kevin
knows the Bible very well. Right. Well, this kind of
brings us to the whole Paradise lost connection too, doesn't it?

(38:46):
Wan Now? And also, by the way, E E. Callaway,
the guy who wrote the book about Florida being the
Garden of Eden, he also happened to be a lawyer
and a judge for a time. He was the only
lawyer in Liberty County, Florida. He's one of Florida's greatest lawyers,
and he'd gone to the Supreme Court at one at

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one point.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Now, thats a gardener veden.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
Guy.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
E Callaway, whoa V. Edison Callaway, was a lawyer for
almost his entire life, and he also was a judge
for a long time. Yeah, so connection.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
I want to add. Alachua is thought to be a
Spanish corruption of the timukuin word for big jug. And
it's interesting because Lomax h part of the word lomax.
English word loom means pool. So I don't know if
they if they picked that Lomax name, as you know,

(39:55):
on purpose, And we'll see that they probably did pick
John Milton for a reason. And I don't know about you,
but I always think about how, you know, part of
it could be, Oh, these people are hiding occult symbolism
and movies and blah blah blah. And this we're also

(40:15):
going to be talking about the Rosemary's Baby connection later on,
which I started to watch and I didn't finish it,
but the beginning of the movie is very similar and
kind of mirrors the Devil's Advocate as far as the
apartment goes very flashy, they're all, you know, wow, it's
so beautiful, et cetera, et cetera. But I don't know
how much of life imitates art or art imitates life,

(40:38):
and if they put these things in there to convey
a message from historical peoples or historical events, or if
it's just perceived that way, you know what I mean,
Because it's easy to make a ton of connections about
a whole bunch of stuff and just go super skitzo
and make connections even when they aren't there. But a

(41:00):
lot of the times, you know, the connections are there regardless.
So I don't know how you feel. Do you think
that they actually use these movies to convey some sort
of esoteric or cult message or is just is that
just the way it is? Or like, how do you
feel on those lines, because some people would be like, no,
they don't use movies.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
To know the writers. Number one, the writers draw their
inspiration from the occult. That's undoubted. That's undeniable. The writers,
Hollywood writers often turn to the occult for their ideas.

(41:39):
So I don't know if they're pushing certain things, but
I know that they draw inspiration from them. I also
know that art imitates life, and I know that God
can sometimes be the author of all these coincidences and harmonies.
Sometimes the devil can be the author of all these

(42:00):
coincidences and harmonies. So you know, I am an old
school conspiracy theorist too. I do think that they put
out that they have to put out bread crumbs. There
has to be a consent they. By they, I mean
the Hollywood elite and whoever's pulling their strings, the lizard people,

(42:22):
new Old Order, crab people, or whatever you want to
call them, that they do need our consent, and part
of they can manufacture consent by putting these little breadcrumbs
or subtle you know, black magic. The first thing you

(42:44):
have to know about black magic is they often tell
you what they're doing to you. They often have to
tell you, right, just like a vampire has to be
invited into the home. Right. So I think that they
by putting these things in movies, we're kind of consenting
to a similar treatment. But that that refers to just
any kind of theory floating around in the Hollywood conspiracy sphere.

(43:10):
But with this movie in particular, we'll see, let's get
farther into it. Can we can we pull up a
picture of kind of just one scene where they're in Florida. Yeah,
give me, people, let me get.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
My screen here, give me one second. I'm gonna pull
up the first scenes of when they're in Oh, when
they're in the courtroom at the beginning, right, I mean,
with with this fellow, he looks like a Yeah, he
looks like a like a pig. Right, Why is it in.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
Black and white, he does look like a pig man.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Is it in black and white?

Speaker 7 (43:50):
Yeah, don't play any clips. We can just skim around.
So that's the court room that the movie starts out on.
That's the PDF file. That's the diddler right there.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
This is that three thirty three, so with lit not
a confirm right there.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
I hit that on accident, and he's representing him, and
Keanu kind of pulls a sneaky move. He puts evidence
in at the last second.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
Yeah, he pulls a scumbag move. And from what I understood,
he was actually he was the opposite of a defense attorney,
and he was actually.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
He was a prosecutor. That's not uncommon. That's that's usually
how it goes.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
Is the part of the movie where he's kind of
hearing things right and kind of seeing things, and he
does interact with what we later find out at the
end of the movie, the Devil character where you know
where he tells him, hey, you can't win them all right,
and then he gives him that that wink and tells
him and we find out that this is yeah Milton

(44:55):
the whole time. And that's why I mentioned earlier that
I think that he was winning because the devil had
always been present, and maybe it gave him more chrismascase.
He's very animated in the courtroom, just like how Milton
is in New York. Right. He's very good at what
he does. Obviously this is a movie, but you get

(45:16):
what I'm saying. He's very good at pleading a case.
And I've always looked at the the system of law
that we have if you really come to look at it.
And one of the inspirations allegedly for this movie, and
the reason this movie was actually put away and they
hadn't brought it back, and one of the reasons it
came back was allegedly because of the OJ Simpson trial

(45:38):
that was very big at the time, and they wanted
to capitalize on people's fascination with the courtroom setting. So
they went ahead and they put this movie out to
kind of sort of ride on the coattails. And I mean,
this movie did one hundred and fifty three million dollars
with a budget of fifty seven So I mean, that's
a huge success if we're talking as far as numbers.

(46:01):
So what are your thoughts on the O. J. Simpson trial?
You think he did it? He definitely did it.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
I really don't know. Honestly, I feel like he did
do it because of how crazy he acted afterwards. But
I could care less.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
This.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Uh this. The thing that this guy has in common
with al Pacino is they're both very short. I thought
that was kind of interesting.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
He's wearing the high heels in the movie. But by
the way, OJ is Orange Juice, Isn't it so very Florida?
Ask word that trial take place?

Speaker 7 (46:40):
Is that New York, California?

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Los Angeles? So the Angels. But I've always said that
the law system is who can give the best theatrics,
who can tell the best story to convince a group
of people the jury right, you're peers that you're the
right one. And I had somebody tell me one time

(47:09):
that Lady Justice is blindfolded, because I forgot what he
told me, but something along the lines of like, you know,
Justice is blind and kind of sort of I forgot
what he said, but anyways, you know, she's blind footed.
And it's not fair at the end of the day,
because it's who can tell the best story. And obviously
you see it here and it's happened time and time

(47:31):
again throughout history, where they just got off on technicalities
where you could one hundred percent tell that that person
was guilty, but because they had a good You know,
people hire good lawyers because they're good storytellers. They're able
to warp things around and make them seem what they're not.

(47:53):
And even in this movie, we saw the the developer
guy got off because they lied on the stand. They
made his assistant make an alibio. Right, how many times
has that probably happened throughout all history?

Speaker 7 (48:08):
A bunch, I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
So he gets off. Here's the little girl that's talking
about the guy. Turns out that the guy later in
the movie they caught him with I believe it was
a ten year old's body in the back of his car.
Later in the movie, when the guy from that department
goes to pay Lomax a visit and tells him all

(48:32):
the corrupt connections that John Milton's firm has to Russia
and money laundering and all these other shady operations. Again,
very devil esque, right, you'd be involved in death and
war and corruption and all that stuff if you were
the devil, right, right, And here they are, and this

(48:55):
is where they talk about being in alachuas.

Speaker 7 (48:58):
Drinking and that's when he takes the deal with the devil.
I thought that was that was relevant. They're at a bar,
right Libra, the law Lucifer being the seventh sign of
the zodiac, Libra with Venus and Saturn the same sign.
That is the bar. We were like, we're talking about

(49:20):
last time. Libra rules the lumbar, the lower back, rules
the bar. You got to pass the bar to become
a lawyer. And it rules the bar where you go
and drink and socialize and live a libertine lifestyle. And
that's when he makes the deal. This is kind of
when he takes the deal with the devil. He's drinking,

(49:43):
not in his right mind. So they go outside and
by the way, the devil is still drinking with him
right here, that short little guy is still right here.
This guy and then comes in a sharp dressed black man,
and Keanu makes a comment of him being black, and
he's like, man, you look too He's like, you're you're

(50:04):
dressed too nice, you know, to be like a black
guy from around here. He's like, oh, I must be
on it, like my friends must be pranking me or something.
Well then he's like no, He's like, I'm dead serious.
He's like, I've got a job for you, so he
he this is the guy who invites him up to
New York. Now this is kind of relevant to what

(50:24):
we were talking about last time with Robert Johnson selling
his soul to the devil. The Americans, the American Southeast
United States folklore of the devil being a sharp dressed
black man. This isn't necessarily the devil, but it's the
sharp dressed black man who's getting Kevin to sell his

(50:47):
soul to the devil, because he's the one. This is
the guy who shows him the check, shows him how
much money they're going to be paying him, and Keanu's
mouth like drops. And the wife is the wife. When
he asks his wife, what do you think, Han, should
we do it? He's like she's like, for that much money,

(51:09):
I'll do anything. Right. So they kind of shows you
what they're coming from, how they react to seeing that
much money. They're very innocent in Florida. They don't need
much to get by, you know, they're happy where they're at.
Then they get tempted to go up north. Kevin's mom
actually talks about how going to New York is like

(51:30):
going to Babylon, right, and talking touching on the Garden
of Eden theory. What was it that took Adam and
Eve out of the Garden of Eden? The eating of
the It's not necessarily an apple, but commonly thought to
be the apple. New York has Babylon. Thank you, hon.

(51:53):
That's good right there, that the big apple is Babylon
and the apple right the mistake Adam and Eve. It's
like Kevin and Marianne leaving Florida, Adam and Eve biting
into the apple, getting kicked out of the Garden of Eden.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
And also you mentioned something about Saturn earlier. Yeah, this
movie won the Saturn Award Oho in nineteen whenever it
was let's see here the it won. It grows one
hundred and fifty three million at the box office and
won the Saturn Award for Best Horror Film. I guess

(52:35):
that year. And the current movie that's told in that
right now is Alien Romeols, which came out last year,
so it's given out every year since nineteen seventy two. Nice,
The Exorcist is on there, Young Frankenstein, The wicker Man, Dracula,

(52:58):
the Howling Poultrygeist. I mean, some of the greatest movies,
The Fly, The Lost Boys, Beetlejuice. All the Silence of
the Lambs is another crazy movie too. All those movies
are Saturn Awarded, which Saturn Satan?

Speaker 7 (53:14):
Right? No, yeah, can we go through the astrological charts
of al Pacino and Keanu real quick? Or we'll get
to it. Never mind, We'll get to it once we
see al Pacino for the first time. But Kevin's here.

(53:34):
His mom's trying to convince him to stay kind of.
She's like, it's not going to be good. I got
a bad feeling about it. And she hasn't revealed yet
that she's been to New York, that she's made some
mistakes in New York. She got knocked up in New
York and he got conceived. He was conceived in New York.
He doesn't know that, Keana, but they go that. They

(53:55):
go to New York, right, no, no, don't worry about Ijuan.
I got it pulled up for later, thank you. So
they go up to New York. They move into this apartment,
right they first they stay in a very nice hotel.
They're blown away. Then they get told they can live
in an apartment for free, big nice, fancy apartment. But

(54:16):
everyone lives in the same building, which I thought was interesting.
Everyone lives in the same apartment building or condo where
I think Milton John Milton, his.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
Boss is at the top in the tower. Oh yeah.

Speaker 7 (54:31):
And so at first they just want him to pick
a jury, which didn't seem like that big of a job.
But he was good at it. He understood what they wanted,
so he picked a jury for them. Well, that got
him the kind of the stamp of approval. They hire
him and al Pacino here we meet him and he's

(54:52):
the devil. He's the boss. We don't know for sure
that he's the devil yet, but there's clues. He's up
at the penthouse. He takes Kevin out onto kind of
a balcony. It's like an open air office. And yeah,
they go out there. And this is kind of like
when the devil or Satan takes various people Jesus especially,

(55:19):
it's up on high places to tempt them. M hmm, right,
Jesus especially, bring up I want to add up high. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Mount Sinai Hospital is right on the same road as that.
The place that they're staying at, the condos in Mount
Sinai is again the Yeah, the mountain right on the
thirty third parallel.

Speaker 7 (55:47):
Is it, uh, yeah, thirty third parallel.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
It's on the thirty third, Yes, mounts thirty third, So wow,
it is right, and it's known in the biblical location
right is ro Moses received the Ten Commandments and Mount
Sinai Hospital is right there. And they even pointed out like, hey,

(56:11):
here we got Mount Sinai Hospital ball a lot, and
that right there clicked in my mind of Mike boom Right,
that's why the devil's in in New York mm.

Speaker 7 (56:19):
Hm also New York orc right, New York. Well, the
devil takes al Pacino as Satan takes Heaven out onto
this ledge and he kind of shows him the whole city.
And it's kind of like when when Satan shows Jesus

(56:43):
all the lands, you know, all the kingdoms, right, this
can all be yours, right, we can we can rule
this together. I'll give this all to you, you know,
kind of like Darth Vader and Luke or the Emperor
in Star Wars. Right, join us and you'll get everything
anything you could ever want. And this is that moment.

(57:05):
It's a reference to Satan and Jesus. So at this
point in the movie, we kind of you don't really
know if Keanu is Jesus right contesting the devil, or
if it's right. Eventually you find out it's the Devil's
own son, Satan's own son trying to produce the anti

(57:27):
Christ who would kind of be his grandson. Well, shows
him this high place, then they go, the movie goes on.
What happens after this? They decide he's going to represent
the voodoo priest.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
Right, I got to make sure I don't flash any
of the nudity scenes. I gotta be careful here. Oh true,
because there are some new but here's the tower. Here's
he's telling him, like, I got Mount Sinai and hospital
and all this stuff here. But yeah, and this is
where you know you're talking about the connection of Kevin

(58:06):
sort of he might be Jesus or the good guy
or something. But this is where Paradise Loss comes into
play because it's essentially about the fall, but from the
perspective of Satan or Lucifer. Right, So you have this
story where you think there's a good guy, it's gonna
come from it. And I don't think he kind of

(58:27):
learned at the end even then, because he was still
tempted at the very end. So I don't know if
he actually did change all that much. I mean, who knows,
he might have changed, but he was, like I.

Speaker 7 (58:37):
Kind of switched. He kind of switched to a different sin. Yeah, right,
it was mostly money in this one, or maybe pride.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
I don't know, but vanity's my favorite sin, right, that's
the whole.

Speaker 7 (58:51):
Thing vanity at the end. Right, So pride and vanity
kind of get called the same sin a lot, but
it seems like it was mostly greed the first time
around in his first life. Then at the end of
the movie, he resets his life by you know, bang.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
But here's this then.

Speaker 7 (59:12):
Yeah, so yeah, the NYPD busts in on this guy
sacrificing animals. Here's where it heats up and gets tied
back into Florida again. Okay, Now, this voodoo priest Santaia Yoruba,
I forget the right terminology, but it's this Afro Caribbean magic, right,

(59:39):
black magic where they're sacrificing animals to these spirits. This
voodoo priest is doing this in a place he's not
supposed to. It's a very you know, urban area. He's
just in like a dirty basement. There's animal parts all
over the place. The cops break it up. It's a
health code violation, sanitation issues. Okay. Well, for some reason,

(01:00:03):
the top law firm in the city is taking this case.
They are representing this seemingly dirt poor voodoo priest. Well,
and like I said, the case goes on and eventually
their argument is in the movie, Keanu Kevin argues for

(01:00:24):
religious freedom, right, religious exemption. He's just practicing his religion.
He can do it wherever he wants, whenever he wants,
and it's no different than eating eating lamb or eating sheep. Okay, well,
guess what else. At the end of the trial, as
he's arguing, you know, kind of the climax of the trial,

(01:00:48):
he notices or comments on the judge being Jewish and says, judge,
it's just like the Kosher slaughter. How is it any different? Well,
Keanu being from Florida, you know, he kind of knew that.
He kind of had that in his pocket, right Alachua,
Florida too, But he notices the judge's religion, and then

(01:01:14):
he they get off.

Speaker 8 (01:01:17):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:01:17):
The judge kind of sides with him, the jury sides
with him, but the judge is sympathetic because of this
and guess what, guys, Juan, can you look up the
hi Aliyah sacrifice trial, Police hi Alia church trial.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
The Church of lamb Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
Bukumi Bambaekumi Babo Doo.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Santaria is an Afro Afro Afro Cuban religion developed as
a syncretism of Roman Catholicism and Yoruba religion. Here this
one I hear.

Speaker 7 (01:01:59):
Yeah, yeah, So there was a Santaia sect cult that
was going on in Hialia, which is a neighborhood of Miami.
And this happened when at the end of the eighties,
early nineties or.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Earlier, says nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
Okay, nineteen ninety three, the Church of the Lukumi Babaalu
a yeah, versus the city of Hialia. So this is
pretty much the same thing. And the Devil's Advocate took
direct inspiration from this. It's the exact same case. They
just plucked it from Florida and put it in New

(01:02:41):
York direct inspiration for the movie. I've never seen anybody
talk about that on YouTube. All the little breakdowns of
Devil's Advocate I saw on the internet, none of them
talked about this. It's too spicy. You're not going to
get it anywhere else. Okay, this is a direct rectference
to a Santa Ria cult from Florida Hilia. They are

(01:03:05):
sacrificing animals, doing the chicken swinging all that shit. Okay,
they got busted, raided, They threw some of them in jail, right,
accused them of animal abuse, obscene abscend you know, obscenity whatever,
something like that, slapped them with all these charges. Well,

(01:03:30):
they must have had some good lawyers, but they got
out of it. And the argument was, well, we're in Miami.
This is hyaliah that you know some many people in
the courtroom were probably Jewish, like I imagine right Miami, the
Miami area, you've had some of the most Jewish mayors

(01:03:51):
and the upper leadership of those cities for decades, right,
almost one hundred years, one hundred years, if not more so.
With all the Jewish people around there, they're very familiar
with Kosher slaughter, and they would talk about kosher slaughter
in this trial. And that's exactly where a Devil's advocate

(01:04:14):
got the inspiration, because kosher slaughter. They pointed out the irony.
How can we get in trouble for this when the
you know, the Jews are allowed towater chosen. Well, the
judge the solution actually was not good at all. Okay,
the solution was, okay, they do sacrifice. Now you can

(01:04:37):
do sacrifice too. Everyone gets to do animal sacrifice now
in Miami and in most parts of America because of this,
the precedent that this set, so now everyone's allowed to
sacrifice animals in South Florida. Now I don't know if
that's you know, every single city but Dade County. The

(01:05:00):
precedent that's been ZET allows for voodoo, Santaia, all this shit.
I've been to chicken chicken bone yards in Miami. I've
told the story on here. One time I went on
a date with the chick and she I told her

(01:05:21):
I was spiritual. A big mistake. Right, should have said
I was just Christian?

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Right, it should have just told you were gay.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
Dude basically told her. I was like, oh yeah, spiritual whatever.
She took me to a boneyard. She was like, oh yeah,
this is where the local Santaia people sacrificed chickens. And
there was thousands of chicken bones all across, all across
the ground. My bike actually stopped working on the way

(01:05:51):
back home from the interesting completely locked up, chain locked.
I can fix a bike. This was unfixable, but sketchy
with the voodoo. Don't get into it at all, Okay.
Working at a spiritual story, guys, I can tell you
don't get involved in any any animal sacrifice whatsoever. It'll

(01:06:13):
haunt you, haunt you. Anything you could potentially gain far
outweighed by the terrors and the tragedy. Okay, but they
took that from They took that scene of the movie.
The inspiration was from Florida. So another link to Florida.
Ay a Eliah court case. What do you think about

(01:06:36):
that one?

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
Let me add a couple of things in here, because
this isn't anything that is new, right, This is has
been going on for a minute. This is actually dead
pig chickens dumped along busy Florida street. Maybe ritual sacrifice, cops.
This is from twenty twenty two and Cape and Cape Coral, right,
so this is happening there. And I wanted to add
because Miami is the magic city, right and in nineteen along,

(01:07:04):
well this was ninety what I say in ninety three,
in nineteen seventy four, according to the Sarasota Tribune. Miami
Jackson's Memorial Hospital. Now, there was a famous person that
died here. I forgot who it was.

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
Told me, sorry, Bob Marley.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
I looked it up. He didn't die here, but I
think he was treated here for something. Miami Jackson, Miami's
Jackson Memorial Hospital, which I think that's where that's where
my sons were born. To me, double check, yeah, that's
where my Yeah, that's where my sons were born. So
treated seven hundred demonic possessions a month. Okay, oh my god.

(01:07:44):
And that that's in Miami. You know the heart of
I'll wear a lot of santeia and this well to them,
it's not black magic, but you get what I'm saying, right,
like the darker aspect of it and this particular hysteria
high case. I covered it a while back. It was
about allegedly a demonic possession that happened in a academy

(01:08:09):
in South Florida because one of the teachers was hypnotizing
some of the students. And I know you covered one
or we talked about it where there was a teacher
in Florida that hypnotized the students and they all committed
sushi side right, almost like opening them up for that.

(01:08:31):
And one of the things that I found interesting here
because you mentioned animals, there was actually the Devil City
stoleom large in Magic City. Is there any more? Is
any city more firmly locked in the brimstone ye grasp
of say than Miami, asked the Miami News Times. In
nineteen eighty eight, police rescued a stolen line from a

(01:08:53):
local from a local junkyard where it was due to
be ritually sacrificed. Later that year, voodoo dolls soaked with
blood and covered with feathers were left outside federal buildings
in Florida. So somebody had stolen a line from a
local junkyard. What and they were going to sacrifice it
in some rituars. But again, this is happening in Miami.

(01:09:16):
And you can check out the episode I did on
this guy, because this guy alleged that this is their
yearbook of their senior class. Again very occult, and the
guy who was ahead of it would dress in all white,
and there was there was a let me see the symbol,
it's the astrology, Oh damn. And there was a lot

(01:09:42):
of dark stuff going on at the school. Like people
being said there was a murder at one point in
time at the school.

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
Hey, we got six hundred people in the chat right now.

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
By the way, you want to give a little recap.

Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
Four hundred people in my YouTube. Six hundred people total
across all our platforms. Thanks for being here, everybody, Just
to give a little recap. We're talking about The Devil's Advocate,
a nineteen ninety seven Hollywood blockbuster about a lawyer who

(01:10:19):
takes a job, leaves his home in Florida, goes to
New York, and ends up working for the devil for Satan.
But he doesn't realize it till it's too late. And yeah,
that's where we're at. But here on, can can I
since we're touching on astrology a little bit, can we

(01:10:40):
look at the astrological charts of al Pacino and keannye Reeves.
I've already got him up here.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
Sorry, is this a good one or no?

Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
No, that one sucks. This one's this is legit. There
you go, I'll show you what's up. So we got
al Pacino. He's a Taurus. Now you'll notice he's a
lot more lively and hyper than Tauruses typically are. Right,
and he's a smaller guy, shorter, thinner, right, not your

(01:11:16):
typical Taurus. Tauruses tend to be bigger, fuller bodied, and
you know, slower, piece, more peaceful, more calm. He's all
over the place. You kind of expect him to be
in aries or a Scorpios can be very serious, very grim,
funny too, but eccentric a little bit. What we'll see.

(01:11:41):
He's a Taurus. His moon is Sagittarius. His ascendant is Leo.
That's a big dosa fire. Okay, big dosa fire. That's
where he gets set. Okay, yeah, come on, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Oh but he's acting when he's doing that, now, I mean,
is that is that still void?

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
Yeah? But you don't see George Clooney. George Plooney is
a Torus too. He's a more typical tourist. Cool. You'll
never see you, don't. You rarely see him screaming his
head off with al Pacino. It's almost like every role. Okay, Now,
he can be a tourist too. He can be rock
solid too. But here this isn't an astrological show. But

(01:12:20):
let's get to the meat and potatoes of this. This
is his birth chart. This is a birth chart, people,
doesn't matter if you believe in astrology or not. Could
care less. Hollywood doesn't care if you do it or
don't they do. Okay, let's look at why would they
choose Why would they choose al Pacino to be Satan?

(01:12:42):
And why did he do such a good job with Satan.
It's considered one of his best roles. Right, Well, we're
going to see that Pluto is on his ascendant. Pluto's
on his ascendant. Pluto is the planet of darkness, death,
the underworld, revolutions. Okay, And just like a song that

(01:13:10):
plays in the movie at least once talking about rolling
stones with the Devil. Yeah, that one plays. That one's
in there. There's no there's another one. Sympathy for the Devil. Okay,
Sympathy for the Devil talks about how the devil was

(01:13:31):
behind all these radical revolutions. Right, wolves, Pluto is the
planet of revolutions. But it's not just Pluto we're talking about.
Pluto's on his ascendant. Your ascendant is kind of how
you seem to the outside world, right, you're facade, you're veneer,
your outer self. Well, he's got Pluto there. Pluto's very

(01:13:52):
serious dark right, it rules scorpio. So that's like Halloween, darkness, death, sex, intensity, right, extremes, too,
very hot, very cold. Well, what else is there? His Sun?
And those are the two things you start out with
in an astrological chart. You start out with the sun

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or you start out at the ascendant. So on the
ascendant you're seeing Pluto rising, right, it's not quite in
the first No, it is in the first No, sorry, sorry,
it's in Leo. It's not quite in the first house,
but it's rising. So it's on the ascendant. Pluto having

(01:14:34):
a dark kind of reputation, a dark image, serious extreme image.
Then we have Sun conjunct Saturn. Sun conjunct Saturn. Sun
is your personality, Okay, Sun is like the biggest part
of you, biggest part of yourself, your public self, how
you are in the daytime, and it's smack dab conjunct

(01:14:59):
Saturn Satan. Not only is that a common placement for
shorter people to have the Sun or to have Saturn
on their ascendant, or to have the Saturn Saturn conjunct
their son, but Saturn is Satan, so his son, which
is also part of your image, but your personality, your
public self conjunct Saturn. He's perfect for playing Satan. Okay,

(01:15:25):
perfect Saturn conjunct his son. Astrologers will know what that's
all about. But I don't want to talk too much
about the astrology.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
And they asked him five times to play the role.
They were desperate to get them on. Canu. Reeves actually
took a two million dollar hit from his salary in
order for them to be able to afford. But you
know it, al Pacino is kind of in my opinion,
he's kind of creepy, like he's like, he gives me
like creepy vibes, especially with the stuff going on now

(01:15:53):
with him and his super young girlfriend, who was probably
I was gonna say something, Yeah, but we know what
she's like in Hollywood.

Speaker 7 (01:16:01):
She's gold digger.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
Yeah right, I'm sure. I'm sure she's a nice lady
or girl whatever. But yeah, he's dating her and she's
like super in They had a kid recently too. Yeah
she's nine. He's still shooting.

Speaker 7 (01:16:14):
Uh well here, let's splip back to the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
And also real quick, is this we gotta do Scarface
because that was another iconic movie. But do you think
that's why he played such a good scarface in that movie?
Because of the same thing you're talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:16:38):
Yeah, villain Pretty's perfect for villains Pluto and Saturn. Those
are the villains of the zodiac, bad guys, the dark eyes.
So going on forward, he's representing this guy we talked
about the court case out of Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
He does the spell on this on this dude with
the tongue and the nails.

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
He does the voodoo, the sympathetic magic with the tongue
where he pierces the cow's tongue and says this guy's
name over it, and then the guy can't speak. The
prosecutor has a hard time speaking. But okay, so let's
go next scene, the next sequence.

Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
Oh, this one right here, I want to talk about
this one because let me see if I can get
it on the right anyway, I'll pull it up the
So in this scene, we have like a little easter
egg here where they they're both walking and then you
have halo lighting this dude with this and it was
weird because and I knew it was a message because

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literally it's the only guy that walks behind them in
this sort of way where he kind of like pauses
there for a second and then continues halo lighting right.
You have Lucifer, right, the Bearer of Light, the light Bearer, phosphorus,
which is accounts for ninety seven percent of the phosphor,

(01:18:07):
you know, the phosphate, which we're gonna be doing a
an episode here soon on. They supply ninety seven percent
of the fertilizer in the United States, at least that
I know of. And phosphorus right, which is known as
the light Bringer, which kind of goes against the Garden
of Eden a little bit because we're talking about Lucifer
or Satan. But again, we're talking about Paradise Thoss where

(01:18:31):
it's about the fall, but from the perspective of Lucifer,
and this movie focuses on a lot on them. So
I did like that little scene where they flash that
there let me continue here, they're talking there.

Speaker 7 (01:18:50):
Oh yeah, he speaks Chinese. That's something very interesting. There's
a lot of quirks about the Devil that are like
just hilarious and seem like below the belt, like punches.

Speaker 5 (01:19:02):
Chinese, Italian, Russian? What else? Did he speak Spanish? I
think he spoke right.

Speaker 7 (01:19:08):
Yeah, Well, we know that his daughter speaks Italian or
his daughter's Italian. For some reason, the Devil of the
daughter of the devil, but Satan himself al Pacino John
Milton his name in the movie. He speaks Chinese like
fluently to a guy on the street and he wants

(01:19:29):
to see a chicken that can play chess or a
rooster that can play chess. And by the end of
the movie, you know, you kind of almost kind of suspect.
Is he the one who's like playing tricks on people,
you know, and makes it look like the chickens winning
at chess or something like that. But he speaks Chinese.

(01:19:49):
So that's one of the quirks about the devil that
we find out. Is there something to do there with Chinese?
Maybe it's another connection to the abusive animals or you know,
strange practices with I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
Which six sixty six I don't know. I did catch that,
but I couldn't make any connections. But I didn't see
the five five five, which, yeah, maybe it's hinting at
the six sixty six.

Speaker 7 (01:20:22):
Well, let's keep uh, let's keep moving forward here. And
just to touch on the phosphorus and lucifer. Another interpretation
of the word flora Florida, the name of Florida is
is thought to mean flowery. But if you go back
to Flora, she's the goddess of flowers, springtime and light.

(01:20:45):
So Flora is also where we get words like fluorescent, okay,
meaning light. So Florida, you could even stretch. This is
a stretch and link to Lucifer or land of light,
land of flowers, land of youth, land of light, Florida, right,

(01:21:08):
but regardless and Floride. Yeah, thank you. The big war
going on between Florida and Floride right now, guys, stay tuned.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
This scene here where he makes her cut her hair
right or put it up, and then she ends up
changing her hairstyle.

Speaker 7 (01:21:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
I did catch some people talking about because their angel curls, right,
you want to get rid of the angels. And this
is kind of where she starts to have her downfall
after this interaction with Milton, So yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:21:39):
She starts gaining weight and al Pacino John Milton tells
Keanu's wife to cut her hair, that she doesn't look that,
even going as far as to say she doesn't look
good with that hair. Whereas I'm not a big Charlie's
there on type of guy. Okay, Jerry's still out on her.

(01:22:00):
We don't know if she's a full trans or not. Okay,
but I'm not big on her to begin with. But
when they chop her hair, she looks terrible. Okay, She's
like a heifer. And she only gains more and more
weight as the movie goes on. She just looks terrible. Right,
But she has this they give her like a bob okay,

(01:22:22):
the short hair, and it's a direct tip of the hat.
It's a direct pull from Rosemary's Baby. Because in Rosemary's Baby,
I forget if she starts out with short hair. But
in Rosemary's Baby, which is a movie about a innocent
couple that the man wants to trying to make it

(01:22:44):
in Hollywood, trying to make it as an actor, not Hollywood,
I forget. That might also be New York. Correct me, guys,
where does the Rosemary's Baby take place? Okay? So also
New York and directed by Roman Lansky or created by
Roman Polanski of Manson murder infamy. Right, Roman Polanski. When

(01:23:10):
he was young, it was at Roman Polanski's house that
the Sharon Tate murders happened. So Roman Polanski created Rosemary's Baby,
which is a decent movie. You know, it's pretty ahead
of its time for like the sixties or whatever. And
that movie's about a couple. It's mainly focusing on the wife,

(01:23:37):
the girlfriend, the wife and eventual mother Rosemary, and they're
attempted into city life. It's very similar, right to Devil's Advocate.
Devil's Advocate, very influenced by Rosemary's Baby. And in Rosemary's Baby,
she ends up getting short hair, very short hair. It's
like symbolizing she's cutting her life away, right, cutting her

(01:24:00):
power away, her connection to God, however you want to
look at it. But she cuts it, she cuts her
femininity away, right, becomes like one of these like gender
neutral antichrist slaves, okay, and a prototype to one of them,
a flapper. And she in Rosemary's Baby, this other movie,

(01:24:22):
she ends up getting tricked or the plan is to
impregnate her with the son of the devil, the Antichrist.
Now we'll talk about that movie another time. Maybe a
lot to dig into.

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
You want to talk about the connection with the Devil's
Advocate and Rosemary's Roman plants.

Speaker 7 (01:24:43):
Yes, that's what I'm getting at it. Can you go
to the Can you go to the Taylor Hackford Wikipedia page, please,
Taylor Hackford Hackford. Yeah, so Taylor Hackford is the director
of Devil's Advocate, the Devil's Ada because guy, yeah, now
it's like the tree. Yeah, let's go to his Wikipedia please.

(01:25:08):
He directed Devil's Advocate. He loved Rosemary's Baby. He openly
admitted it was inspired by Rosemary's Baby. He openly admitted
to having to having a right to being a fan
of Roman Polanski. And guess what, guys, Roman Polanski not

(01:25:30):
only was he involved in the Manson murders okay, where
Sharon Tate was murdered at his house when he was
out of town. Oh, how convenient Roman Polanski out of town. Well,
Roman Polanski is also out of town permanently. I believe

(01:25:50):
left America for good. He might be back. I don't know.
I'm not not up to date. Okay, so he's on
the he's a fugitive Roman Polanski. Now he's old. Back then,
he was only in like his thirties or something when
that thing happened in the sixties. Now he's old, very old.
And somewhere along the line he was accused Roman Polanski

(01:26:15):
of pretty much grooming r wording PDF filing. Okay, all
the nasty stuff, all the typical Hollywood stuff, drugging, drugging
and r wording as young as thirteen, probably worse. Okay,

(01:26:36):
he was like the og Epstein, Weinstein and Polanski. I
don't know where does that? What's his what's his heritage?
Roman Polansky? I don't know. Someone should ask some French Polish. Yeah,
Polish is a nice way of saying, Oh, Polish is

(01:27:01):
a nice Yeah. Polish is a nice way of saying
right there. Okay, Well let's go back. Editors one. You're
gonna get your Filipino editor team on this, right, they're
going to act this part.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
Well, I'm just I'm trying to navigate it to where
they don't. We don't see that stuff on the thing,
but I mean if it does, then it does, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:27:24):
Right. So Roman Polanski is not a good guy, not
a good ombre, okay, and he's on the run for
all this stuff. He happened to be the director of
Rosemary's Baby. It's almost like, you know, Rosemary's Baby is
like a good movie if you're seeing it as like
an expose, but if you're really if you're realizing it's

(01:27:46):
like a confession. Yes, it's shocked. Okay, And Roman Polanski
is very into that stuff. We also know he's into
the occult a little bit. He did make some good movies, Okay,
talented or he knew the right people who knows. Doesn't
excuse what he did, but guess what he did some
heinous acts, terrible crimes. Still on the run from them.

(01:28:10):
And guess what the guy from Devil's Advocate in two
thousand and nine, it says Taylor Hackford, that's his name.
Taylor Hackford, the director of Devil's Advocate, knowing all this,
knowing all this stuff that happened, still vouched for Roman

(01:28:30):
Polanski and loved Rosemary's Baby so much, loved Polanski's movies
and career so much. Must have been a friend or something,
had friends in common, but he vouched for him and
signed a petition with a lot of other Hollywood stars
and executives trying to get Roman Polanski allowed back in

(01:28:53):
the United States. Can you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
Believe that tells you a lot about him?

Speaker 7 (01:29:01):
So the Devil's Advocate again, if you're looking at it like,
oh wow, they're trying to tell us how it works,
and you know, it's like a soft disclosure that's kind
of more like a confession. It's kind of more like
a mockery. It's a open homage to Rosemary's Baby. It

(01:29:23):
was almost like part of an effort to get public
opinion back on Polanski's side in a way, in a
weird way, to like bring back the memory of Rosemary's
Baby maybe and maybe to help get Polanski. I don't
know the timeline on this, okay, Admittedly, nineteen ninety seven.

(01:29:44):
In the movie two thousand and nine they petition to
try to get him back, Polanski back in America. That's
pretty much where we're at with the Rosemary's Baby Devil's
Advocate connections. She's got short hair the whole time. And
at the end of the movie they try to impregnate

(01:30:06):
Charlie's their own Sorry, sorry they tried. The Reeves is
supposed to impregnate his sister. This lady is a redheaded Italian.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
The Scarlet woman. She's the you know, the red headed
woman though.

Speaker 7 (01:30:19):
The Horror of Babylon, the Horror Battle.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Yeah, because isn't she the one that gives birth to
the beast in Revelation.

Speaker 7 (01:30:29):
I'm not familiar. I'll tell you right now, I don't remember,
but it's interesting to note she speaks Italian. And she's
very spicy, right, always wearing red, a lot of red
on her.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
So the Babylon the Great, commonly known as the Horror Babylon,
the first to both the symbolic female figure in a
place of evil, as mentioned the book Revelation Yah YadA YadA.
She is further identified as a representation of the Great
City which reigneth over the kings of the earth in
Revelation seventeen eighteen. And she is the one upon her

(01:31:09):
forehead was Namer and mystery. Babylon the Great, the mother
of Harlots. I just saw she was the one that
gave birth to the beast. Could be wrong, though.

Speaker 7 (01:31:19):
Right we have six hundred and sixty six in the chat.

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
Right now, Humannati confirmed.

Speaker 7 (01:31:27):
She let's skip. We got to move through this movie
a little faster.

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
Let's do it.

Speaker 7 (01:31:34):
They're at a party. His sister's trying to seduce him
almost the whole time. Oh okay, here we gotta see
one point. At one point, someone says to someone in
this movie, did you know Donald Trump was supposed to
be here? Oh? But he could. He couldn't make it.
He you know, he got caught up doing something else.

(01:31:57):
So Donald Trump supposed to be at his party, couldn't
make it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
I believe they filmed that scene in his house.

Speaker 7 (01:32:07):
Yeah, in New York. Yeah, multiple scenes were filmed on
Donald Trump's property here, so some in something like a
penthouse or one of his suites in his tower, but
as a gold very opulent gold room. So some of

(01:32:28):
this movie was filmed.

Speaker 5 (01:32:32):
In Trump Tower, the his penthouse, which is the scene
with the gun and the guy who off the family.
So the golden the golden room.

Speaker 7 (01:32:42):
Let's go to that scene.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
Let me skip through here. I gotta make sure I'll hit.

Speaker 7 (01:32:46):
The Yeah, their their relationship is.

Speaker 5 (01:32:52):
Here.

Speaker 7 (01:32:53):
Just when you find the scene, tell me, I'm gonna
switch back. So they're at the party, Keanuo abandons her
at the party, gets wrapped up. In another case, their
marriage starting to, you know, fall apart a little bit,
and you gotta yet, does he meet the guy?

Speaker 5 (01:33:16):
I'm almost to it here, I think I got it. Yeah, yeah,
I got it.

Speaker 7 (01:33:23):
Okay, So so now we meet Trump the second Yeah,
now we meet the second defendant that Kean is going
to represent. And this character kind of like Back to
the Future with Biff, right, they're telling the future a
little bit Iff in Back to the Future is modeled

(01:33:45):
after Trump. Right, Well, it just so happens that this guy,
I forget, I forget his name. What's his character's name,
the I'll find Alexander, Alexander Colin. So Alexander Colan's character

(01:34:06):
was actually partially modeled after Donald Trump. Now, it's interesting
that Trump was directly referenced in the movie earlier. Okay,
but this character who's living in Trump's house or living
in Trump's penhouse in the movie filmed in Trump's penhouse,

(01:34:29):
Alexander Colin is somewhat modeled after Donald Trump, not entirely,
but you know, arrogant rich right now, I don't agree
with the angle they're taking there, but partially modeled after
Donald Trump and set or it's being filmed in Donald

(01:34:49):
Trump's penhouse. Okay. So if you could see the color here,
it's very opulent, all the gold, Yeah, you can see it.
This guy's accused of shooting his wife and she died,
so but he's denying it. He's having an affair right allegedly, right, yeah,

(01:35:12):
and that's filmed at Trump Tower. And what else is
interesting is you got anything to add to that?

Speaker 8 (01:35:22):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:35:22):
One? Okay, what's interesting. There is.

Speaker 5 (01:35:34):
You good?

Speaker 7 (01:35:35):
No, yes, sorry, I'm trying us. I forgot what I
was gonna say. That's something. That's something else to say
about him. This guy, yeah whatever, he's he's tall, blondish.

(01:35:56):
Can you see us on screen?

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
There you go?

Speaker 7 (01:35:59):
Okay, he's tall, he's blondish, he's kind of be he's
supposed to be like a Trump character a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:36:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:36:11):
I don't play it too much, man, don't get us
some trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
We're doing a voiceover. It's one We'll be all right.
It is the first time she recognizes Milton. Yeah, and
you could kind of see something was off with her,
and you know, if you if you're seeing it for
the first time. I hadn't seen it so long. I
didn't remember what was going on. But she's recognizing that
that's the dude that she did it with when she

(01:36:34):
was sixteen or something like that, and it was the
only time. And that's where Kevin came from. So if
he doesn't know his father, that only leaves pretty much
one person, and that's Milton, right, this devil archetype guy.
So then she kind of she wants to leave in

(01:36:56):
the morning, and he's rushing out right and then she
just said up leaving and then that's when everything goes
downhill with mary Anne and she ends up being tormented
so much. She allegedly was sayed and abused by Milton,
who was at the court all day with Kevin during

(01:37:19):
the trial of the guy and his family who he
got off on because they ended up faking an albi and.

Speaker 7 (01:37:26):
Off get off on him. He got him off.

Speaker 5 (01:37:29):
Oh yeah, he got him off. Yeah, no, pun intended,
but he ended up winning the trial. And that you
know this the church scene and everything. Let me take
this off here real quick, just so you got the
church scene right, the subway scene that I that I
talked about earlier. And do you want to get into

(01:37:51):
the John Milton connection with Florida.

Speaker 7 (01:37:54):
Yeah, I was hoping we lied earlier Paradise Lost. We
were talking about Garden Avien and Florida, Paradise in Florida,
the connection between John Milton, who is the author of
Paradise Lost. Yeah, truly.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
Anything you want to pull up, yeah, I'm gonna pull
it up here now.

Speaker 7 (01:38:17):
So John Milton is supposed to be Satan in this movie,
but according to Paradise Lost, Satan is the main character, right,
and is even kind of depicted in a somewhat fair light,
you could say.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
So we had there was literally a like I mentioned earlier,
there was a Paradise Florida at one point that is
part of an Actua County now that got annexed into Gainesville,
which is where Kevin is. And that's why I'm like, oh,
that's kind of weird, right, like insane paradise lost connection

(01:38:58):
Kevin Lomax. What what are the chances that this whatever
who cares? Right, it's weird, But that what was even
weirder is that I'm like, Okay, is there a paradise
lost connection to Florida itself? And it turns out that
John Milton was a governor of Florida through most of

(01:39:20):
the American Civil War. He was a lawyer at one point,
and he was related to the John Milton. He was
a relative of the fame English poet of the same name. Okay, lawyer, politician,
and he ended up committing sushi side for a yeah,

(01:39:46):
for allegedly a higher cause, Like he's like, I needed
to do this. In his final message to the State
la legislature as the war was ending, he declared that
death would be preferable to reunion with the North. He
ended up doing the do so kind again, very similar
to our boy Kevin Lomax in the movie where he

(01:40:09):
does that for the Higher Cast. He goes, Okay, I'm
gonna do this. It's it's it's better for me to
do this than to birth the Antichrist into reality. And
here we have again a reflection of a John Milton
born on four to twenty where on four to twenty,
which we know other people in history that also committed

(01:40:31):
sushi side were also born on four to twenty, right,
doing this, So when I found I'm like, what are
the chances that this is connected? Right? And that this
is part of the history of Florida as well?

Speaker 7 (01:40:47):
Totally, man, I knocked my socks off. I didn't know
when that deep. Yeah about holy shit.

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
Well I told you. And also one other connection that
I wanted to talk about in Paradise Us because last
it was it last week we talked about the bright
Line and the Serpent of Loki locomotive, right, the the
Loki being the father of the serpent. Well, I mentioned
pandemonium and pandemonium was actually coined in Paradise Lost by

(01:41:19):
John Milton and Pandemonium is again it's supposed to be
this capital of demons. And in the Paradise Lost, right,
they all go to Pandemonium because it's like this capital
of demons, if you will. And I mentioned that last
week and I and it kind of related to what
we were talking about today in a way because it's

(01:41:41):
quite literally connected to coined by John Nilson himself, which
was super super interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:41:47):
Yeah, man, guys, pipeing hot gravy hit the Illuminati confirmed guy. Paradise, Florida,
that's lost no longer there and was and ended up
becoming a part of Gainesville, Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
And also Jackson you mentioned.

Speaker 7 (01:42:08):
Jett County, Alachua.

Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
County Alachua, and you also mentioned Jacksonville. That's Saint John's County.
You know, you're the Saint John's River, Saint John being
you know, important and Mary's and Saint Mary. So are
they painting a picture with what these movies? Are they
telling a story? I think they are telling story saying

(01:42:31):
it's it's a confessional, it's a confessional and whatever. It's
a confessional of these people and they're putting it into movies.
And I think that's and and here's the thing, Bro,
it's revelation. You know. People are like, oh, it's revelational method.
I think that's just a lazy way of saying, you
know there's something there, but we just don't know what
it is. It's like, oh, they have to tell you.

(01:42:53):
It's like, do they right?

Speaker 7 (01:42:56):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:42:57):
Is it? Is it that out there that some dude
in his basement is able to figure it out on
his own? Like here I found it. Like, I think
these people operate on such a higher frequency that it's
not as subtle as that. I think they may make
it seem like that, but I don't think it's that simple.

Speaker 7 (01:43:14):
H Let's keep going through some scenes, try and make
it to the end.

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
Let me make sure it's not all right. So which
scene do you want to see him? Here at the
end when he well pull the trigger and then.

Speaker 7 (01:43:28):
Mome on, you know you're skipping way too far. Let's
go to uh after he gets the guy off.

Speaker 5 (01:43:40):
No puntended. Yeah, I'm gonna pull it up now. After
he gets this.

Speaker 7 (01:43:46):
Trial with the guy, he can't see his family, Marian commits,
Sushi said, and then yeah, they kind kind of like
drop the veil, they drop the curtain, they drop the
the show. The charade, and they're like, he wants to

(01:44:06):
see you. Now, the devil wants to see you. Go
see him. Right, It's like it's almost like time stands still,
the whole city stands still. It's like, okay, now the devil.
Al Pacino's gonna tell them what's really up. And Kevin
goes up to the up to the penthouse and his

(01:44:28):
sister is there. Half sister, right, and al Pacino's there.
Al Pacino tries to get him to bang his own
sister and produce the Antichrist.

Speaker 5 (01:44:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:44:44):
Also, the guy from Ferris Bueller's Day Off gets gets
murdered by a group of hobos in the park.

Speaker 5 (01:44:51):
Their demons brow there demons.

Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
Yeah, good point, hobo demons.

Speaker 5 (01:44:55):
There right there, demons. And that was actually that that
looked like special effect, But that wasn't special effects. That
was actually like a mask and everything. And I believe
the guy who did the these masks for this movie
went on to do stuff for Alien and all those
other movies. So again it was it looked like special effects,

(01:45:16):
but it wasn't. They just the way that they edited it.
It was actual physical masks. Right. But here he finds
out that they Homeboy died. Here he's telling him like, hey,
you know, it's okay to lose, It's okay to lose
every now, and he's like, I never lose. You know.
He's super into himself. And the moral of the story

(01:45:38):
here at the end of the day was you were
so into yourself, like you know, you weren't cheating on
your wife per se, but you were so into somebody
and that's yourself, that you neglected her and she ended
up quite literally going crazy. So here he is getting
getting the dude off of the charges. He's kind of contemplating,

(01:46:01):
like he knows it's set up. He knows that it's
a fabricated alibi, but he's looking back here at the
at the devil himself and this guy, and then they
end up winning.

Speaker 7 (01:46:17):
Right. Also, just the fact about the guy, this guy
who he gets off Trump, Donald Trump, this character being
modeled after Donald after Donald Trump a little bit, and
him having his scenes filmed at Trump Tower. Trump goes
back and forth. I think most people put this together

(01:46:38):
on their own, but Trump goes back and forth between
Florida and New York. Now I'm not one of those
Donald Trump antichrist guys, but if you are I mean,
I would be pretty into Devil's advocate, right, because you've
got him being a New York resident, then you've got

(01:46:59):
him being a Florida resident. So kind of like the
opposite of this. But still, and the arc of the
Covenant being housed at Mar A Lago for eight months,
that was pretty significant.

Speaker 5 (01:47:12):
It's in Jerusalem now too.

Speaker 7 (01:47:14):
By the way, now it's in Jerusalem. But what else
is there? Keep keep going a little bit. That's really it.
I think anything else, guys in the comments, anything else
you notice about the movie? Me?

Speaker 5 (01:47:30):
Look, so we had Hurricane, Milton.

Speaker 7 (01:47:33):
Trump and Jared Kushner. Yeah, Keanu is Jared Kushner in
the movie?

Speaker 5 (01:47:39):
Pull up my slideshow here real quick? Hold on, well
is it that I exit up? Uh? Let have exited out?
Let me pull it up here real quick. I might
have one one or two other things that as far
as connections go. But yeah, we had the Hurricane with Homeboy.
That was sacrifice to hurricane in quite literally.

Speaker 7 (01:48:01):
Let's look at that. The guy that they dropped into
his ashes, the guy whose ashes they dropped into, so.

Speaker 5 (01:48:10):
Paradise loss. We talked about that pandemonium. Yeah, I just
want to touch on Florida was born on three three, Right,
So Illuminati confirmed twenty seventh state, which if you kind
of look into the number twenty seven, it's actually linked
to the Holy Spirit. Also and nine nine nine, Yeah, yeah,

(01:48:37):
you have Cinnabar, which was thirty three. I forgot why
I put that in. I think I was trying to
form a connection there. Didn't find one. But the Yeah,
the hurricane Milton guy, somebody put you might be cool,
but you're not. Your ashes in the eye of a
hurricane level cool. And this was when Hurricane Milton came by.
This hurricane.

Speaker 7 (01:48:58):
What's what was the gerologist? Yeah, let me pull it
up here, see a meteorologist.

Speaker 5 (01:49:03):
He was a scientist of something or other. So renowned
scientist Ashes dropped into I category five. Hurricane Milton is
lasting tribute.

Speaker 7 (01:49:15):
Yeah, guys, So when this hurricane came by, not Helene,
but Milton came by and hit Florida, right, it was
like again John Milton, Paradise lost. It went straight for
cs t key.

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:49:33):
We covered this a couple of months ago, we did
a live Yeah. But basically, the the meat and potatoes
of it is that this meteorologist or whatever his role
was working for Noah and oaa, go figure Noah watching

(01:49:55):
the weather right like Noah's ark. We talked about that
and all that stuff. But n o a A, this
guy died who worked for them? And what how did
they decide? What did they decide was a good way
to spend taxpayer dollars or they're you know, funding right
while everyone else was like battling over toilet paper and

(01:50:18):
you know, ginger ale. They took the ashes of their coworker,
flew it into the hurricane and dropped his ashes into
the eye of the hurricane. Where's this guy's name again.

Speaker 5 (01:50:32):
Peter Dodge, who I believe was also born on three three.

Speaker 7 (01:50:37):
Peter Dodge, So we got Jupeter Saint Peter whatever called
doge Peter Dodge.

Speaker 5 (01:50:45):
Or died on three three. I'm sorry he died on
three three, So he died on the date that.

Speaker 7 (01:50:52):
Yeah, And then they dropped his ashes into the eye
of Milton what the hell?

Speaker 5 (01:51:01):
And he died at seventy two, right, so another number
twenty seven backwards seventy two Demons of the Gaatia and
and all that stuff. Again, I'm not saying I'm sure
he was a nice guy, but what an odd thing
to do. It's just it's odd. And this is the
first time ever that they've done something like this, And
you're saying taking tax payer money while everyone's like fighting

(01:51:23):
for their life quite literally, and here they are, like,
you know, what would be cool? What if we took
that dude's ashes and hear me out and we threw
them into the eye of the hurricane?

Speaker 7 (01:51:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:51:34):
What who even comes up with something like this? Here
October eighth and the EI they're doing like a ceremony essentially,
you know, waiting for him to get dropped. He was
logged on the on his on his last flight there
as well, ended with the reference to Dodge through three

(01:51:57):
hundred and eighty seventh and final flight, so he was
actually on the flight log as well before they dumped
him over. Interesting, that's all I'm saying. I'm sure he
was a nice dude, you know, rip mister Peter Dodge.
But it's weird.

Speaker 7 (01:52:16):
Yeah, one hundred percent weird, very out of the ordinary,
to say least, total ritual death, ritual, hurricane magic, talk
about voodoo, talk about fucking cloud seating. Jesus Christ, I

(01:52:37):
didn't sign off on having a fucking dude's ashes dropped
onto my onto my homeland. We didn't sign off on that, Noah, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:52:47):
Yeah, Like the repercussions of that, like, what what does
that do on a higher level? Right, we're talking about
these people doing black magic, and by these people, I'm
talking about the people in power. What does that do
feeding this beast of of It's essentially a system like this,
It's an entity if you really come to think about it,
Like could hurricanes be conscious on some level? Because they

(01:53:11):
the way they form, the way they move. It's again,
it's an act of God, right, So it's probably God,
you know, making it move. But still it's interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:53:23):
And guys, just to wrap it up here, looking at
Keanu Reeves's chart, you'll notice he's his is not unlike
al Pacino. They both have Pluto on the ascendant. Both
have Pluto on the ascendant. Pluto underworld, death, sex, Darkness, rebirth,

(01:53:45):
Halloween stuff. Okay, al Pacino and Keannue Reeves have both
have Pluto on their ascendant. So that kind of makes
them like father son astrologically a little bit. Right, what
else does he have on his ascendant? He has a
Keanu Reeves is so interesting and people love him so

(01:54:05):
much and you know, such a so many different people
like him for so many different reasons, right, I'm not
a huge Keanu Reeves.

Speaker 5 (01:54:14):
Fane Humble is the whole thing.

Speaker 7 (01:54:16):
Yeah, yeah, people love him. Right. Well, he's got what's
called a stelium on his ascendant. He's got four major planets,
so the Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and Pluto. Now the whole

(01:54:37):
neo thing him and the matrix. That's Uranus right there.
Uranus janis the you know Prometheus a little bit too
with technology, right, that's neo Eon. Right, like we talked
about last time, eis Janis ian Iano's John Wick, right,

(01:55:03):
the wicker Man. Whatever you got Uranus, you got Pluto, okay,
the two planets of revolution, revolution, violent revolution, Pluto and
kind of a revolution of the mind. Uranus. You got
Mercury there too, retrograde. But you've got the sun on

(01:55:24):
the ascendant too. Son on the ascendant is very crucial
to being like a popular hero, right, or having the
sun on your ascendant kind of makes it likely that
you'll be popular, celebrated, right, have a warm personality, the
sun on your ascendant and being seen as a savior too.

(01:55:47):
So he's got all these planets right on his ascendant.
It's a very mixed picture. He's got Pluto there, just
like al Pacino. He's also got Urinus on his ascendant.
So to have one planet on your ascendant dominates your chart.
If you have Mars on your ascendant, you're probably red
in the face, probably have red marks on your face.

(01:56:09):
Probably you know, a little hot blooded. Having Venus on
your ascendant, you know very often beautiful people romantic lovey,
known for beauty, or or beautiful themselves, or into beauty,
things like that. So I have one planet on your
ascendant dominates your chart. Keanu Reeves has four different planets

(01:56:31):
on his ascendant, Pluto, Uranus, Mercury in the sun. And
that's kind of why he holds like many different roles
to different people. He's the hero, he's I don't know
if he's ever been a bad guy. But Uranus the rebel,

(01:56:54):
the revolutionary, Pluto the revolutionary, and some the same if
you're right, some the hero. Okay, just a quick breakdown
of one aspect of his astrological chart. But Keanu Reeves
and al Pacino, man, it's a pretty decent movie.

Speaker 5 (01:57:18):
What would you rate it? Let's got it one? It ten.
Have you had to?

Speaker 4 (01:57:22):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:57:24):
Seven?

Speaker 5 (01:57:26):
Same? Seven and a half seven? Yeah, so yeah, go
watch it. Everyone see for yourself. Now you have the
eyes to see and see what you pick up, and
it's it's super interesting. What are we doing next? Next week?

Speaker 7 (01:57:44):
Next movie? Either Truman Show, Edwards Sissor Hands or Cocoon.
Truman Show or Cocoon Cocoon. Maybe we'll do a vote here.
Let's do vote right now for next week. Yeah, do
you want to do that?

Speaker 5 (01:58:06):
Oh it's in Florida. Yeah, okay, let's do it. Let's
do a poll.

Speaker 7 (01:58:13):
Next movie. All right, guys, look at the Old World
Florida YouTube chat for the poll. Next movie breakdown? Next
Florida movie breakdown, cocoon or what's it called.

Speaker 5 (01:58:36):
The fly?

Speaker 7 (01:58:37):
M Now what I just say? Truman Show. I'll add
one more option, Julie's Gold, the Confederate goal that ended
up in wealthy Jewish plantation owners hands in Florida. Those
are the three options. Edwards or Hands. Now Edwards Edward

(01:59:00):
scissor Hands is not a cult enough.

Speaker 5 (01:59:01):
It's well, it took place in Lakeland, didn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:59:04):
Yeah, it's just Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:59:07):
Okay, it's not. It's not a cult enough.

Speaker 7 (01:59:10):
What Edward scissorhands.

Speaker 5 (01:59:14):
That's just weird.

Speaker 7 (01:59:17):
Al Right, guys, the poll is up. Cocoon Truman Show
or u Leie's Gold.

Speaker 5 (01:59:28):
Was Truman Show also Florida?

Speaker 7 (01:59:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:59:36):
Where is it? Where does it say Florida? Oh yeah,
eas side of Florida. It's a tight race in the panhand.

Speaker 7 (01:59:47):
Truman Show is pulling ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:59:52):
I kind of want to do cocoon that that sounds interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:59:56):
What do you guys think?

Speaker 5 (01:59:57):
Yeah, then we go to it's flat, dude, it's flat.
It's Truman Show. Look at this guy. This guy is
obsessed with Florida. Bro on the Old World Florida page
and he's obsessed with Florida. All right, yeah, it looks

(02:00:23):
like Truman Show.

Speaker 7 (02:00:24):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (02:00:24):
That's fine. I like that movie.

Speaker 7 (02:00:28):
Let's see alright, fifty for the Truman Show. I'm gonna
end the poll. Make your voice heard, now.

Speaker 5 (02:00:36):
Speak now forever? Hold your piece. Oh they don't say
that in court. That's when you're getting married.

Speaker 7 (02:00:44):
Yeah, all right, Truman showed is poles ended? Fifty for
the Truman Pole for the Truman Show. Cool, what we'll
do next?

Speaker 5 (02:00:54):
Okay, awesome, Yeah, we'll do that next week. Florida Panhandle
with old Jim Carrey an interesting character. Nonetheless, h So
this is great, dude.

Speaker 7 (02:01:09):
Yeah, thanks for being here. Everybody go give Huan a
follow the Juan podcast, and yeah, Devil's Advocate guys. Hope
we I hope we didn't miss anything too important. We
give us a comment if we missed anything that you
caught you think we ought to know about. But uh,

(02:01:32):
thanks everyone. Have a good night, y'all. See you next
week or sometime sooner.

Speaker 5 (02:01:37):
See you next week.

Speaker 7 (02:01:38):
My piece

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