Illuminati Confirmed #22 | Occult Monks, Baconian Theory of Shakespeare, & Bonaparte's Member - Juan on Juan

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I trust the media.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Illuminati confirmed. Which has been nice because I could read
Finnegan's Wake a bunch of nonsense, and then The Name
of the Rose, which is actually a great book that
I've enjoyed reading, and at this point in time they

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are speculating, or at this point in my reading of
the book, there are two monks who come to this
abbey where a monk has been murdered, and the monk
is kind of like the Colombo of his day. I
guess he's sort of, you know, not really playing his

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car his cards too heavily, is keeping his cards close
to his chest and gathering as much information as he
can at this point of the book. But there's been
a couple of things that have come up that I
think are really interesting and connect to what we talk
about here, and then also demonstrate that the author umberto
Echo clearly had some pretty high level knowledge that he

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is putting into his book. The Name of the Rose,
which I thought, you know, the Rose obviously is going
to have some kind of occult situation symbolism going on.
But they were talking about the various poisons that the
abby's the monk. There's a monk that specialized I forget

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what they call it. It's like toxic it's not toxicology,
but they have some kind of Latin name for what
he does, apothecary or something like that. And they're talking
to him about different esoteric herbs that can be combined
and potentially cause somebody to hallucinate snakes. And then it

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was interesting because there's like distinctions. It was like this
plant makes you hallucinate snakes, this plant makes you hallucinate birds,
this plant, you know, like they're getting very specific about
what each plant could do. And he wouldn't tell the
priests which plant was which because he was like, that's
only for you know, an adept to know. Otherwise people

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could misuse this and poison people. But yeah, that's It's
kind of where I've been recently, just reading and then
just working on the podcast. How about you, dude.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, I'm on chapter two of that particular book, and
nothing crazy as has happened really so far, and but
I was kind of following along. I'm halfway through chapter two,
but unvierto echo. He he's written a lot of like,
uh is it folk called Pendulum I think is the

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name of the other book. Yeah, he goes he goes
deep into like the Homunculus and everything. Bro, this dude
was like deep into the esoteric. And not only that,
but I'm going to share my screen here, but the monks, Dude,
there's this book by this scholar, Sophie Page. I'm going

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to share my screen here by Sophie Page that she
focuses called Magic and the Cloister, and it's about the
history of monks and their interest in a lot of
the occult. Bro. Like they had the Librevak, they had

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a lot of different books that the liber A being
about the artificial creation of life. And yeah, bro, the
monks were hardcore into this stuff. But at the end
of the day, it was all about Christian magic, right,
so they didn't right here, So, during the late thirteenth
and early fourteenth centuries, which is when this book they
were talking about takes place, a group of monks with

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a cult interest donated what became a remarkable collection of
more than thirty magic texts to the library of the
Benedict Abbey of Saint Augustine's in Canterbury. Analysis of their
manuscripts in the monastic environment in which they lived suggests
that they were a coherent group with shared aims and interests,
whose the cult studies were stimulated by their religious vocation

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and protected by the relatively enclosed environment of the abbey.
There is evidence that magic was practiced in order to
meet the communal needs of the abbey and the relative
protection from scrutiny there also existed in other monasteries in
medieval England. So thisicular books, she goes in bro amongst

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at Saint Augustine's collective magic text that provided positive justifications
for the practice of magic. And there were the name
and they were the name donors and in some cases
compliers of books in which works of magic were copied
side by side with the works of more illicit genres.
So a lot of the times they would take books
on like medicine. How you're talking about, like toxicology, And

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I guess what would you call the study of poisons,
like herbology or some toxico Maybe maybe toxicology, right would
be the study of poisons.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think it was herbology. It might have just been
herbology and erbologists. But yeah, that's interesting because they're taking
the approach that that was uncommon for the church. But
I think it was a lot more common than we think,
that these churches were actually practicing this stuff seecretly and

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felt like they had some sort of elected privilege to
do so because they were more just than others, even
though that doesn't seem to be the case we study history.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
If you look at the Goaisha, for example, and I
keep bringing up the pseudo monarchiam them on them that
I did a talk on with Homier Rome actually, and
the whole premise of being able to even though it
was a work of satire, by the way, the whole
premise of the book was you're supposed to invoke God,

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and when you summon these demons, the Goaisha, they're supposed
to do your bidding, the bidding of God. So technically
you're not worshiping the demons. You are invoking the name
of God to control them to do what you want
them to do. Now, that can get lost in translation,
because obviously any work with the demons is no bueno

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when it comes to the eyes of the church, right,
But technically that's what it is. You're not worshiping the demons,
You're controlling them to do God's bidding. That's the way
it's put. Now, that's very convenient. Right, Hey, I'm gonna
work with demons in the name of God and then
you're right, you're protected.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
It sounds a lot like what the people who founded
New Haven and my research belief, like they were the
elected elites and they could kind of because God chose them,
they could kind of break the rules and sin and
it would all be forgiven.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah. So right here, the monks at Saint Augustine chose
to view their magic texts as compatible with their religious vocation,
but they were nonetheless have been, but they would nonetheless
have been aware of the text classification as magic and
the condemnation of many of the practices they described. His
study is to explore how these educated members of religious

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orders sought to fit magic texts into their belief system
and worldview. For example, they did not believe that their
vocation protected them from harm or oprium when they acquired, read,
or practiced from magic texts. Did they think that magical
techniques could be employed for pious ends, combined with orthodox rituals,

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or used to gain knowledge of the cosmos or induced
visions of spirits learn magic texts in Medieval Europe or
syncretic and were often exotic fusions of magical, philosophical, and
cosmological elements from the Greco, Roman, Arabic and Jewish traditions,
mediated through their translation into landin adapted by Christian authors.

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So as a consequence, they often acquired a looselessness and
ambiguity in their rationales, mythologies, and cosmological foundations. Hey, we
make it fit because we're Hey, we're studying this stuff. Man,
we're just reading because we're curious. But you don't think

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that if they were to have acquired some power. Let's
say that magic is real and that you can't acquire
powers from it, you don't think that they use that
to their benefit.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Hey, oh, absolutely, you.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Know what I'm saying, Like power, what's that one saying?
Power corrupts absolutely or something or other.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, well, knowledge is power, absolute power corrupts, or power
corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I think it's the
it's the full phrase. But yeah, knowledge is power and uh,
and this this is the thing. It's like this blurry
line between oh, we're protecting you from the information that

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you are not uh careful enough to handle, right, We
can't you can't be trusted to use this information responsibly.
So we're gonna protect it. We're going to choose who
gets to protect it with us throughout time, and we're
going to carry this information on. That's the sympathetic interpretation

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that it seems like this author is taking, where she's like, oh, yeah,
the church was very right wing and very bad and
very evil, and then these really left thinking, forward thinking
people sort of got the bravery to come forward and
explore the occult within the safety of this place, which
may be the truth, Like this place might have been

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unique in perspective to the churches immediately next to it,
But I think that was the case throughout the Renaissance,
is that the families that had sway aligned with the
Church in order to protect themselves from, you know, any

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sort of negative consequences from practicing this stuff, and then
found out, oh, wow, you guys are practicing this stuff too,
like the elites the church. Yeah, exactly, It's like the
Vatican priests and their cabal and then the elites and
their cabal. Yeah, they kind of like dude, an enemy

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of my enemy is a friend, right.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
M.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I just talked to this guy, Johnny Cerrucci, who wrote
this book called Romans of Mass Destruction, and he gets
into how the Vatican Church and the Catholic Church have
enabled monstrous, serious serial killers, almost called them serious killers.

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For example, Uh, guy Diirah who was the Bishop of
Nuns or No, let's see so okay, So Duke Jean
and Jean del Malistrait, Bishop of Nance, brought guy to

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the stake. The church had to lead because the civil
power dared not risk arousing the susceptibilities of the whole Okay,
so they basically allowed this guy. Have you ever heard
of Bluebeard the Pirate? I don't know if this is
Bluebeard the Pirate. There might be two Bluebeards. Let's look

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him up. Type in blue Beard and see if Guy
de de Ross comes up.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
French folk tale the most famous surviving the most famous
surviving version of what was written of Charles Parrau in
the first published by Arvina and Paris. The tale tells
the story of a wealthy man in the habit of
murdering his wives and the attempts of the present one
to avoid the fate of her predecessors.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well look at look at who the folk tale is
based on though, because they say it's based on this
guy named Guy, but it's not spelled Guy, spelled g.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I Yeah, yeah, this is the guy that was doing
the murdered all those children.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I'm pretty sure the names pronounced guy, even though it
looks like it would be pronounced guilty. But yeah, well
maybe in Spanish, but in French that's French guidless.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
He was French. Well, he was in the French Army
with the Joan of Arc.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah. I don't know, I get, but I've heard him
called Guy. I don't know. Maybe that's a nickname for
someone with the name. But either way, this guy was
the basis for the Bluebeard folk tale. But he was
a real dude that was just yeah, killing all these people.
And it got to this point where the church couldn't

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keep it under wraps anymore, so they brought him to
the Steak.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
WHOA, So he's saying that the church helped create Sarah essentially, Yeah,
so like some mk ultra stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, and and you know, it seems like they were
they were kind of not only facilitating it but helping
these people or they were sort of accomplices until it
couldn't couldn't be hidden anymore, and then they would, yeah,
turn on them and put them at the stake and
claim like they had no connection to them.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
So but what would the purpose be for that though?
Why would they do that?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Because they're because they're trying to commit these occult crimes.
They they're they're doing rituals. They need a scapegoat. They
need you know, a bunch of people are going to
start getting murdered. It's only a matter of time, especially
in a maybe in the Middle Ages, when it's a
more isolated sociological landscape. You know, it's only a matter

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of time before people start to catch on. So you
need a scapegoat. So if the church wants blood for
whatever reason, occult ritual or they want to murder somebody,
they want a sacrificial person, they need an escapegoat to
blame it on. When the you know, the village comes

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for the killer's head with the pitchfork and torches. You know,
it's the classic. It's a classic thing with Frankenstein where
they create the monster, but the monster was their friend
the whole time.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Well, it's funny because I just did an episode on
with Larry Hancock, who he has written about JFK for
over thirty five years, and he just recently put out
a book about Lee Harvey Oswald right, speaking of plants
and potentially the CIA or FBI or whoever, the NSA,

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whoever it was that planted this whole conspiracy because the honestly,
I didn't know a lot about the JEFFK. I still
don't know a lot about the JFK. But it's a
deep rabbit hole, bro, Like there's so many connections and
there's so many players in the whole thing. It's easy,
no wonder it's a conspiracy, dude, it goes way deep.

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And the fact that we still don't know till this day,
Like they just use this guy's escape going guess what
he got off too?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
You know about the JD. Tibbitt body, No, who's that?
So around Dallas there was a police officer that everybody
said looked like John F. Kennedy. They said, you know,
you bear a striking resemblance to JFK, right, which he

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kind of does. Like his picture maybe not perfect, but
at least his eyes he has kind of a similar
eyes and mouth as Kennedy. Kennedy had a much more
distinct face. But either way, the theory is that JD.
Tibbett was shot by which he was, that's not theorized,
but the theory is the reason why he was shot

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on the same day as John F. Kennedy was because
they had used his body as a sort of stand
in to basically throw people off. So what was the
big theory? Back into the left, right, The bullet came
at him from the front and JFK's head went back

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into the left, is what they would say up until
the Zapruter film, which proved that JFK's head did in
fact not go back into the left, and that it
doesn't make sense that Lee Harvey's Lee Harvey Oswald from
that position would have fired that shot. So it brought
the whole thing into question. But before the footage came out,

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the cover story was that JFK got shot in the head,
which is not the case when you look at the
Zapruter film. So they needed a body a stand in
for the autopsy, so they killed this man, shot him
in the face at like a traffic stop. He pulled
over somebody who was somebody reported a crime. JD came,

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you know, reported on the scene, and he was shot
in the head, shot in the face and in the
chest too, and then his body was used in the autopsy. Allegedly,
people say that his body was sort of yeah, stand
in to cover up the fact that JFK was shot

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from the angle that he was actually shot at, right,
So to further obscure the case and keep people guessing
and confused as to what really happened. When you know,
now with all the information that's come out, it's pretty
obvious there was more than one shooter, or the shooter
was firing from an angle that could not have possibly

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been Lee Harvey Oswald in the position that the warrant
report talks about.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
So hold on, I've never heard about it. So apparently
Lee Harvey Oswald was charged with this and then with
the with the JFK stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Right, they they tried to pin it all on him.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Bro what that's wild?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And that's what the official record still says. It says
that that he look it says it right there by
Lee Harvey Oswald, which makes no sense that Lee Harvey Oswald.
I think I forget the guy's name, but I had
him on my podcast. Matt Crumpton. He did a pretty
good job of breaking down how it would have been
impossible for Lee Harvey Oswald to have killed both JD.

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Tibbett and JFK. And it could be that Lee Harvey
Oswald just killed JD. Tibbitt, you know, like maybe Lee
Harvey Oswald actually killed JD. Tibbitt and then or Tippitt
and and that's why they you know, that's why they
had him as the pats. He could he was involved,

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but not technically involved in the actual crime. But that's
funny Twilight language. Tip it, tip it off, tip of
the hat, tip of the head, right, tip it. That's
an interesting This is a tip off that the Twilight
language is coming through with JD. Tippett's Tippitt's name tippit.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
So as Oswald was killed before he was tried for
either crime, President Lyndon B. Johnson commission a committee of
US Senators, congressman, an elder statesman to investigate the events
surrounding the death of Kennedy, Tippitt, and Oswald. In an
effort to answer questions regarding the events, President Johnson also
hoped to quell rumors that arose after Oswald was shot
by Ruby that the assassination and subsequent shootings were part

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of a conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
The committee obviously we know now it was all one
big conspiracy, right, And the fact that the Warren Commission
is eight hundred and eighty eight pages, I mean, what
the hell is that supposed to me?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
I had no idea?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Which is the number six, by the way, because eight
plus eight plus eight equals twenty four four and two
plus four equals six. So gumatt GM Matt Trocke, you're
getting me spinning, dude. You bring up the JFK thing,
and I'm like, do you see what I mean? Part
of my brain activates.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
It goes so deep. I had zero clue about this
until your brother was like, who the hell is this?
And literally he was charged with that, and then Kennedy
and then allegedly he went from one scene to the other.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Three people. It's like what people say about nine to
eleven when you're like, hey, did you know that there
were more than just two towers that fell that day?
It's like, hey, did you know that there were three
people that died on JFK's assassination in the immediate vicinity
the day of JD. Tippett. Then JFK and then Lee
Harvey Oswald where he supposedly killed the other two.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Is it where he looks like Kennedy? He kind of
looks like Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well, that's what I said at the beginning. The whole
premise is that JD. Tippett was a look alike. So
before JFK was assassinated, the talk around Dallas when it
came to JD. D. Tibbitt was, Hey, this guy kind
of looks like the president. Isn't that neat? You know?
That was his nickname Jack because he had the same names.
As they switch the body's brain, they switched the bodies because,

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like I was saying, you were reading. It's probably why
you didn't hear me say this. But the gunshot comes
in at a certain angle, right, they're saying it's coming
in from the front. That's what they want everyone to believe.
But obviously that's not what happened. So they needed a
body double which had the same and you got what

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I'm saying. And if Learvy Oswald was the one who
shot him, maybe that's part of it. Like maybe Leearvy
Oswald didn't even know what was going on. Maybe he
thought that he was helping stop the assassination of JFK.
And that's why he shot JD. Tibbett, like he could
have had bad info. And this cabal was like, hey,

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Lee Harvey, you know you're a patriot, we need you
to save the president. Go and kill this dirty cop.
You know, he's a part of the assassination plot. I mean,
if you're Lee Harvey Oswald, you're a guy who's according
to the officials record, he was super patriotic. He was
a guy who went to Russia to be a spy.
He wanted to learn how to be a spy, which

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he wasn't qualified for, so he I think he did
some you know, clandestine work as a sort of lower
tier clandestine operator. And these are the types of guys
that become scapegoats because they're not you know, valuable assets.
He was an asset. He was a loose asset, and

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he got patsyed scapegoatd as you know, the most famous
assassin in American history almost, I mean next to maybe
John Wilkes Booth, but equally you know, the two of
them with the whole three three name thing too, John
Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald. Uh did Mark David Chapman.

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Why is it always a three named person that takes
a shot King? Well, who shot Martin Luther King on
the official record? Because it was it wasn't Martin Luther
King didn't june himself so.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well, apparently he didn't even die from that. He died
at the hospital allegedly where the family was able to
sue the CIA or something and win.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, if he died in the hospital, then he died
from the gunshots. You're saying that they killed him in
the hospital, even though oh shit, you didn't hear about that.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
We're teaching that. We're teaching each other. Thing is this
is why we got a podcast more.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
MLK Junior suffocated, So apparently it goes he was alive
in the hospital. And let's see here allegation. So MLK

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and your family sues.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Wasn't it like a black Israelite guy that shot Mark R.
Martin Luther King? Like it was like a radical?

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I don't, honestly, I don't know who who did?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Who shot Jeff K?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, James Earl Ray, So he wasn't a black guy,
but yeah, James Earl Ray another three named person. Look
at that, dude, it's never it's never a Dave Smith
or like a John Doe, or it's always a three
named person. I think that has something to do with
like the mnemonics of Twilight language, where like you know

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it's the number three, but it's also like maybe more
memorable then.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I mean, I guess everybody has three names if you
have a middle name. But like, how often somebody in
the news reported and they read their full name including
their middle name, it's always assassins. They have either double
last name or they read their middle name.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
So this is Mandela effect where allegedly he was so
he was fatally shot and then he was rushed where
he was pronounced dead at seven oh five, and apparently
the conspiracy goes that he was actually suffocated there and
the family actually sued and won. Wow, I'm trying to

(26:43):
obviously again I'm searching on Google. That's probably not gonna
tell me you know, the whole thing. But have you
seen the MLK blackmail letters? No?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
But yeah, I'm familiar a little bit. I just haven't
read them myself. I know that there's all sorts of
stuff that MLK was into that he probably doesn't wouldn't
want public right, which he was still alive.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
That was one of the things that recently came out right,
that they were doing parties and stuff, and he was
very one day.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
I have a dream that one day black women, black
women and white women will be twerking together in my
bedroom pretty much.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
So.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Apparently the FBI King Sushi Side letter or blackmail package
was an anonymous nineteen sixty four letter and package by
the Federal Bureau of Investigation which was allegedly meant to
blackmail doctor Martin Luther King Junior into committing sushi side Okay,

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and they wrote them a whole letter, bro, But here's
what I don't understand, Like, if these people are so powerful, right,
let's say that they are. Maybe they aren't worshiping the devil,
but they're powerful, and we know that organized organized. I

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have to speak lightly if I put this on YouTube,
because I just got pinged for this stuff, for praising
certain organizations.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Do you see that in the first in the first sorry,
in the first paragraph, they call him, they compare him
to King Henry the Eighth.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Really, in your in view of your low grade abnormal
personal behavior, I will not dignify your name with either
a mister or reverend or doctor, and your last name
calls to mind only a type of kings such as
King Henry the Eighth and his countless acts of adultery
and immoral conduct lore than that of a beast. What
was that King Henry doing?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Huh? Well, King Henry the Eighth, I think was the
one that was uh was the Catholic King of England
after the Protestants and people really hated him. I think
because he was he was like basically just your classic aristocrat,
greedy pig type. But I think he has something to

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do with the Catholic Church versus the Protestant Church and
their battle over England. A traumatic injury.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
This kind of traumatic kind of falls in line what
we were talking a little bit about earlier, where the
Church was using these characters to kind of sort of
make them into these killers, because right this is one
of the major things, like look at the whole football
the CTE stuff with Aaron Hernandez. I think it was

(29:45):
where they kind of go crazy because of their quote
unquote had their head, you know, trauma that they receive
throughout their career. And some historians believe that the traumatic
brain injury from jousting played a major role in his
personality change. Did it you go what I'm you see
what I'm getting at, Like it's like the narrative. He

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became very cruel, petty and tyrannical. He was forgetful and
prone to rages and impulsive decisions. He was paranoid and
had political misjudgments. He was self pitying and vainglorious. Never
heard that before. He was vicious and motivated by self
interest van glorious.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
That's like when somebody's like obsessed with their own like
or Trump could be considered like van glorious in a way,
like at least the way people detract, you know, they're
like they they think of themselves so highly, Like they're
like they're like these glorious people. And I think that's

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what it means.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Give me one second, ah, but look at this, but
we have to throw out some modern concepts. Henry was
not the loos, you know, because he thought that God
spoke to him directly. Interesting that again, it always goes
back to having some divinity. You're appointed by divinity. So

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I'm saying I was saying Mark that he was not
delusional because he thought God spoke to him directly. He
believed himself to be appointed by God, to be king,
to be guided by God and his decision decisions, and
be prompted by God and his desires. So again, what
a better way than Hey, what if dude, for one second,

(31:38):
and I think I've heard this before, what if JFK's
head just did that? Is that a thing?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
It sounds like what John, Joe Rogan and Ian Carroll
were just talking about on Jiri. Yeah, what do you
mean though, Like, is it possible that the bullet hit
his head?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
There wasn't a bullet, And I'm talking like directed energy
weapons like laser beam.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Have you seen the Zapruda footage recently? I don't want
to watch it right now, but have you ever seen it?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
The one where he's riding and then it happens.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, that's the footage, yes, where it happens. You mean
where he gets killed. Yeah, it's very bloody, like when
you look at it now, it's very bloody.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, your head, And it.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Would a laser cause you to have that kind of
like impact.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
If there's sodomy by directed energy weapon, you don't think
that there would be.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Hold on, where is there? Where is their sodomy by
energy weapon. Who's who's creating the direct energy butthole cannon?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
No, I'm serious, bro, This is in uh how to
create and illumine NADI mind controlled slave by uh what's
his what's his face? Uh? Fritz Springmyer. Fritz Springmeiyer talks
about sodomy by directed energy weapon in his book and

(33:16):
this is a book from the nineties, just like.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
The gray alien probing type stuff or what are we
talking about here?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Well, according to Fritz Springmyer, anyone who has an alien
abduction story was actually assaulted sexually by the government or
some sort of governmental entity and they had false memories
implanted in their head. What better story than the alien

(33:46):
people touched me down there?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
And because it's embarrassing and people won't want to admit it.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
No, who's gonna believe it? You go, what I'm saying, like,
who's gonna even believe? So the idea and a concept
of one like a child is like, yeah, Mickey Mouse
and Donald Duck were in my room last night and
they did stuff. Sometimes that's an actual thing that happened
where it's so incredible it's unbelievable, and therefore, uh, these

(34:17):
agencies can pop off whatever they want to pop off
and stay under the guys. Oh crazy kids, Oh you know,
crazy person who thinks that they were abducted by aliens
when in reality was a whole mk ultra thing done
by these organizations to extract information or do something or
other to where you know, it's it's just an unbelievable case.

(34:40):
Because let's be honest, Mark, do you believe in aliens?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Without getting complicated?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yes, okay, do you believe someone and I'm sure you've
had them on your show who said that they have
had an alien of dus do you believe those.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
People thirty to forty percent at the.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Time, not saying that nothing happened to them. Maybe something
did happen to them. As to the extent of what happened,
maybe they believed that that's what happened to them. So
the experience is still valid because now we're getting into
phenomenology where they experience something real. Now, what I'm getting

(35:26):
at is that maybe that was an implanted memory of
some sort, because let's be honest, we know PTSD is
the thing. We know memory works very weirdly. Consciousness well,
we don't even know what consciousness, but the human brain
and human anatomy is a very mysterious thing, and we
know it can be fractured to a certain extent. We

(35:46):
know this because the government has programs just for torturing
and how to survive torture, how to do all these things.
So it's not too far fetched to say that you
could hypothetically condition somebody to be, you know, like one
of these silent cell splinter cell whatever they call them,

(36:07):
assassins if you will, right, that was the whole thing
with the assa Sines what they call them, the Secret
Order of the Assassins, where they were made believe that
they were in some other area and he was taking
all these young men and brainwashing them essentially, and they
usually would start off with like some sort of religious

(36:27):
background of like hey, you know, like the Scientolic the
Mormons believe that you're gonna have your own planet for
every single one of your wives or whatever it is
that they believe. And it's like, again, I'm using Mormonism
as a bad example, but let's look at one of
the more extreme or radical religions that quite literally do
sushi side bombings in the name of Allah, right, like,

(36:51):
in the name of God. They're doing this thing to
try because they believe that on the other side they're
going to be promised what is seventy two virgins or
something like that, you know. So here, let me pull
up the Order of the Assassins story. So the Order
of the Assassins. Here we go. Sure you've heard of

(37:14):
this before. Order the Assassins are simply the Assassins was
a Nizari is mail order that existed between ten ninety
and twelve seventy five, founded by Hassan al Sabbath. During
that time, they lived on in the mountains of Persia
and the elevent and held a strict subterfuge policy through

(37:36):
the Middle East East, posing a substantial strategic threat to
Fatimid Basid authority in killing several Christian leaders. Over the
course from the two hundred years, they killed hundreds who
were considered enemies. The modern term assassination is believed to
stem from the tactics used by the Assassins. Kanterporaneous how

(37:58):
do you say that word, bro, Well, you almost.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Got it there. Let me just correct you on the
first one you got wrong. It's levant. It's the levant.
It's pretty pretty common thing that people say. And then
contemporaneous history, which means people who were alive during that time.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Okay, so let's let's look at the brainwashing activities that
we're going on here, because.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, you know this is all in the video game
Assassin's Creed, right, Yes, that I have.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
And then I love the concept of being able to
go back in time through the use of DNA. That's
such a cool concept to me, Like to be able
to go back into that.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Well, that whole subtext is like the most interesting because
I feel like they have they're like whistleblowing something that
DARPA has with that video game. But if you play
that game, at least the first three or four versions
of it, that you're literally shown the whole Secret Society

(39:07):
history and they kind of start at the order of
the Assassins, but they do take it like the real
crescendo of the game is learning about the Golden Apple.
The Apple and the Garden of Eden is in the game,
this Golden Apple, which is actually some sort of technology
that creates realities, right, and that's what these futuristic factions

(39:31):
are fighting over. And each futuristic faction has its ancient
connection to either the Assassins or the Templar. So I
love those video games because they teach you all about
this shit right here.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
They would also, and this was a crucial factor, need
to be readily willing to die if necessary. The methods
Hassan and later grand Masters of the Order, who were
all referred to as Old the Old Man of the
Mountain used to inspire some such fanatical devotion have been
lost to the midst of history. Marco Polo, who supposedly

(40:07):
visit Alamute Castle, claimed that it was through a brainwashing process.
According to Polo, young men, often orphans, obtained for the
specific purpose of becoming assassins, would be heavily drugged and
taking to a lush garden full of beautiful women and
told that it was the paradise they would inhabit after

(40:30):
death if they served faithfully. Of course, there was no
evidence that this was actually done, but neither is any
evidence to suggest that these methods were not used. Bro
that is so wide. Think about this, right, this is
this is not too far fetched. This idea here, that's

(40:50):
not far Now. You tell me that they had some
ascended master come from from another dimension and tell them like, hey,
you need to do this because you will be rewarded
handsomely okay, but we know we were talking about toxicology
and things right earlier. We know that's a thing. We
know these orders probably use concoctions if there are assassins.

(41:14):
That's the whole premise behind assassins, like hey, let's poison
you know this political figure or something like that. And again,
I don't condone the activities of any organizations that want
to do this, just to be clear, so I don't
get pinged again on YouTube. And I am permanently demonetized,

(41:35):
by the way, so.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I won't ever been.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Last week from what from a thirteen second clip.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
On YouTube shorts, Yes, what was it?

Speaker 3 (41:49):
It showed U it's a media modio. That guy that
did the whole CEO stuff, his Mario's brother, that guy
in handcuffs being walked by the Feds. And they said
that I was praising those organizations the word T write
the letter T starts of the letter T, that I

(42:10):
was praising that activity, and that I was supporting director
in a thirteen second clip that I said nothing in
and it was just the meme.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Is there a reason why his brother got arrested.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
He did the whole CEO thing.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Bro, Well, I know that, but you're saying that is
Luigi's brothers getting arrested.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Mario Ari Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, it's me Mario. Yeah all right, I got you now, okay,
yeah all right? Yeah, well that sucks. YouTube sucks. This
isn't gonna go on YouTube, is it.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
I'll probably censor it. If anyone wants to listen to
this uncensored, sign up for the Patreon ad free all
that stuff, right, Patreon dot com slash the one one
podcast and Patreon dot com slash My Family.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
M ft C. Yeah, well it's mft I see because
you can't do the whole twenty one characters so long.
You know, the one on one podcast. You know, you
know what it's like. You have a long podcast name too,
but it's.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Been too long. I've already linked it so many times.
I just got to leave it on there because you know,
it's been three or four years now. But yeah, if
people want to listen to this uncensored, they know where
to go. They know where to go. Okay, it'll be
censored for the YouTube because they know where to go.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
They ping me, bro, So what are we getting at here?
Is this is ancient mind control? But I feel like
Marco Polo, you know, he's kind of somebody that we
should be suspicious of too, because he's connected to these
Italian nobles and all them, and they probably knew about
all this stuff, just as well as the mister e

(43:54):
s Albasani or whoever the head assassin Hashisheen guy, which
apparently they were using cannabis as one of their major
lures to get people. But I feel like that's kind
of like, I don't know, maybe that would work in
that time period if you had like less cultural stimulus,

(44:15):
but I don't even think that tracks. So I don't know.
I have a hard as somebody who smokes weed all
the time, I have a hard time believing that, you know,
they oh, they're just gonna get you hooked on weed
and then all of a sudden you go and kill
people for them, Like weed makes you super sensitive. You
smoke weed, you're not gonna want to kill anybody like
you're you know, unless you're like some kind of crazy already,

(44:39):
like the type of person who's got some kind of issue.
Maybe weed could you know, make that more severe? Yeah,
aggravate it. But I think overall, cannabis kind of mellows
you out. I have a hard time believing like that
would work maybe like heroin, because you get so addicted
that you'll do anything for it. And if you've never

(45:00):
had access to these plants other than in this cult,
then you know, I guess you're their slave at that point.
But so it makes more sense to me that it
would be like poppy. But even then, like they didn't
have the ability to shoot it now. But that's the
thing though, It's like I'm saying hash it's the same
thing as cannabis.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Isn't you smoke it is a more concentrated form of it.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, but that's just gonna make you more of a
sap and you're lazy too when you smoke weed, like
weed for most people makes you tired, sleepy, you know.
So it just doesn't make sense to me unless that's
unless that was just like a privilege, like oh yeah,
you'll get to relax and get high. If you you

(45:46):
ever want to feel that way again, you got to
go kill somebody maybe, But I feel like that's more
the case with like poppy, Like you'd get addicted from
smoking the poppy and you want more of it.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
It Either way, It's interesting, right, the concept of how
I was mentioning being able to fracture someone's mind and
be able to make them do things. Like think of
a good salesman, right, everyone has experienced this to where
they're able to not make you, but influence you enough
to buy this new car or buy whatever it is. Like,

(46:22):
I am not a good salesman, Like, I cannot think that.
Usually what ends up happening with me is I end
up saying too much and I end up just like
messing the sale up, you know what I'm saying. Like
that's but there's some people, Yeah, I say too much.
I just talk too much, and I just end up
messing up the sale. Right. But again, I find it

(46:43):
super interesting that people can be there's you know, there's
NLP and things like that where people can be influenced. Now,
you know, the whole thing with Oswald and these guys,
even the the Reagan attempt was the whole catcher in
the Rye situation, right, and that whole thing to where
there's a secret code within this book that triggers people

(47:04):
and it makes them want to, you know, become this
manchein candidate sort of thing. And it's like, I believe
words are that powerful, dude, Because again going back to
this salesman concept, even though he's not influencing you to
do anything crazy. But let's take the resources that these
organizations have into consideration, and what if they do. What

(47:26):
if it is like a clockwork orange or something where
they put you in front of the screen, hold your
eyelids open, and they make you watch all these movies
and stuff like that. Think about that in the in
the modern day. You know, we're talking about Assassin's Creed,
you know, video games like Call of Duty and all
these like Grant Theft Thottle. All I would do is
go around killing people, bro, That's what I found fun

(47:51):
in those games.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Think, well, what do you think's gonna happen when the
next one comes out and it's even more realistic than ever?
You know? Yeah, well, I think what if it's the inverse,
you know, not that what you're saying doesn't happen. Yeah,
that happens. But what if the opposite happens, where they
put the book out there and most people read it

(48:15):
and they're like, whatever, this is high flute nonsense. I'm
not a literary critic, I don't get it or whatever.
But then that like five percent of people who have
whatever archetype they're looking for is like they're like activated
some way by reading the book, and then they have
some network through which they can kind of figure out

(48:39):
who has been subtly implanted. But it just it seems
like that's more realistic nowadays, where they can track everything
with social media. Have a hard time believing that, you know,
they could just publish a book, make everyone in public
schools read it and then find the well, you know,
handful of crazies that but I guess it's happened. We

(49:01):
remember David Chapman and all those and the other couple
of people who have used the catcher in their eye
as a calling card.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
You remember the whole gifted Did you have gifted in
your school?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah, that's what that is. It's a recruiting program. Bro,
Like they they have certain kids that are above the
level and need to be challenged more. And bro, that's
stranger things. That's a what's that one movie Akira, you know,
where where they have these group of children and then
somewhere in an underground bunker they're teaching them how to

(49:36):
do telekinesis and all this stuff, you know, for a
secret government organization. And then they end up making like
some sort of god that's able to transcend time and
space and able to destroy realities and stuff like that.
I mean, dude, I think that when it comes to
like the whole nuclear weapons and atomic bombs, I think
that's what that is. I think that that was some

(49:59):
sort of of technology. Like if you look at the paintings.
I've talked about this before, we look at the paintings
of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors, Bro, they were in
another dimension. Dog, I'm gonna show you the screenshots here
of the paintings from the survivors. Paintings from survivors of

(50:21):
hero Shima and Nagasaki. What up my Nagas? Here you go,
so the people's record of hero Shima. Check out these paintings, Bro.
These paintings are wild, and I think that these people
were put into another reality and that's what they experienced.

(50:41):
So check this out. This is from nineteen forty five, right.
So there's people drinking this black stuff. There's something raining.
Everyone's skin is falling off. So people drinking black rain.
When the black rain fell, thirsty people drank it unaware
of its radio activity. And this is one of the
survivors from that. So if you if you keep going here,

(51:06):
we find another one that's super creepy. Check this out.
Look at that flash. On an instant, I saw a
light like a rainbow. This is what this person is recalling.
Look at that. That's a that's a portal.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
You know they opened up like and again we're talking
about video games Doom. You ever seen Doom?

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (51:25):
You know what I'm saying? Like you ever what happens
in Doom?

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (51:29):
They open up a portal to Hell and all the
demons radar reality right like this, This is what this
person painted, bro, from what they saw like red devils.
Three days later, the burned bodies and the fire cistern
had turned red like demons. I instinctively turned away, Bro Doom.

(51:52):
Okay this again, this is uh it hurts you know
how bro? Alternate reality. It was a thirteen year old person.
Look at this? What is this? They're clothes ripped to shreds,
their skin hanging down on the river bank. I saw
figures that seemed to be from another world, ghosts like

(52:16):
their hair falling, falling over their faces, their closes ripped
to shreds, their skin hanging from another or another dimension. Okay,
So I think that atomic bombs are now what we
are presented now. I'm not saying that they're faking gay, okay,

(52:39):
but I'm saying that they might work a little bit differently.
I'm just saying, Mark, all right, I see your face
sounds crazy, but the truth is stranger than fiction.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
My face is reacting to the grotesqueness of those paintings,
that's all. But you know, you're also coming from a
different cultural perspective, So what looks psychedelic and trippy to
you might not necessarily look that way. To words of
a Japanese person, they look like ghost No. Yeah, no,

(53:13):
I get that. I get that, But still like that
it doesn't necessarily have to be that there's a portal,
you know. I mean death, people dying are all. That's
all connected to the symbols that they're evoking in that
in that painting. So yeah, it's dark stuff, man, I mean,

(53:35):
I guess you can interpret it that way. I can see,
you know, the connections. But yeah, much to say as
far as comments on that, I'm.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Looking up the Doom video game. I forget how it
is that they open up the uh, how do they
open up the portal in there. How do they open
the portal in Doom story? Let's see here they and
the Doom story. Portals to Hell are typically open through
the use of advanced technology, often involving energy sources that

(54:10):
can tap into the demonic dimensions, usually requiring a specific
device or ritual to activate and create a rift between dimensions,
allowing demons to enter the human world. This is actually
a new Doom coming out too. I think it's called
Doom Medieval or something or other, and I want to
play it because it looks sick. Dude, this guy's got

(54:32):
like a like this chainsaw gun. Like it looks wild, bro.
Doom is probably one of my favorite franchises because it's
like it's repetitive, but you never get tired of it,
of like killing demons stuff. Who doesn't want to kill demons? Right?

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yeah, I'm sure it's a lot of fun. I can't
relate one. I don't. I'm not a big video game
guy anymore, so I I do. I can't say I
like grind. The thought of that game was fun.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Speaking of demons tactics to diverse Suspicion from the Corpus
of Magic texts that Saint Augustine's included prudently avoiding works
that contained rituals explicically invoking demons, compiling magic texts along
side less censored genres, and placing manuscripts with a cult
context and more orthodox sections of the library. So again

(55:28):
they were hiding it in other things. I found a
copy of the Liberveak, which is grim more on how
to create an artificial humanoid, essentially in a copy of
a medical text from fourteen some fifteen something, so they

(55:49):
took again. If you're looking, you go, oh, look at
all these medical texts, right, like, oh, I don't want
to look through all this, this is just about the
anatomy of the human. And then within those pages is hey,
do you ever hear of a little thing called the homunculus? Yeah,
here's how you create one, and here's how you extract
magical powers from it. Bro, and these medical texts bro.

(56:15):
So again I think it's super interesting, and I'm leaning
more towards the side that I think that all of
the occult and all the stories that we heard about
it's all about espionage, right, and guys like Crowley who

(56:36):
are an mi I five or six whatever. It was
the reason that they were recruited as a cultist is
because you could set up a lodge, which is like
a religious organization in a foreign land, and recruit people
there who usually people who are joining these lodges are
people who are higher in society, right, Freemasons are usually

(56:58):
people of wealth, the ill, whatever it is. So what
a better way to infiltrate a government if you send
some occultists over there who happens to know how to
speak in code because of occultism and the nature of occultism,
which is all about speaking in code. Right, But I
think that the occult is occulting the fact that it's
fake and gay. That's what I think is happening. And

(57:21):
it's just another face of like, hey, you can use it.
Think about it, bro. Blackmail is the most powerful form
of information, not the information that you get from the
devil by invoking him. Tell the CIA, you invoke the
devil and he told you the secrets of reality. Go ahead,
They're not gonna care now, Tom, I have the real
Jeffrey List and they're gonna come on, Hocket. You get

(57:44):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good point. Yeah, it's all political.
I think that's kind of the the thing with the
book I was talking about earlier romans of mass destruction,
like they used different political figures in a naby them
to commit heinous crimes if it served them. And then

(58:06):
of course we all know about the Inquisition in different
people getting burned at the stake. Well, as you're pointing
out like these church fathers, these people who are you know,
the holiest of holies, are practicing this stuff that they
themselves are, then you know, putting people to death for
practicing because they're doing it outside of a church. Meanwhile,

(58:30):
they're doing the same thing inside of a church worse,
and you know, so you know the deal.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
As far as we know, monst At the Saint Augustine's
were never publicly investigated or accused of practicing magic or
possessing illicit books, though occult text appear to have remained
in the abbey until it's dissolution in fifteen thirty eight.
Eighteen years later, many found their way into the collection
of the English Renaissance mathematician, astrologer and magician John D.

(59:00):
What was John d? Also about oh Espiano? He was
the original Double O seven who drew upon the magical
ideas in his Saint Augustine's manuscripts to construct his own
integrations of magic with scientific ideas and mainstream religious practice.
Huh so a lot of this information that these monks
were putting out our boy John D here got a

(59:23):
hold of.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Now have you looked into that? Guy? I sent you
the sub stack. I gave you a membership too.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
No, I ended up opening it. Remind me again, what
was about was about somebody being a homosexuals that. Well,
it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
More than that. There's some one article about how Shakespeare's
gay and all the Shakespeare's stuff has led to where
we're at now in culture where everyone's faking gay as
you put it. But yeah, John D supposedly didn't have
much correspondence with Francis Bacon as far as the official

(01:00:03):
record goes. But when I talked to Robert Frederick about it,
he was like, yeah, it seems like they would have
definitely interacted with each other, but in a secret context,
because there's really not much in the written record that
other than the suggestion that they were in the same court,

(01:00:24):
which you know, so that there's a suggestion that they
would have probably been working together to some capacity. But
they weren't like, oh hey, like, let's collaborate on this
project openly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Did you have you ever known about the William Shakespeare
and John D connection?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Well that is that's what we're talking about, because the
according to Robert Frederick, John D or Francis S. Bacon
wrote the Shakespeare work and then penned it on William
Shacksburg to make it like a you know, secret thing
that because they didn't want, you know, everyone realizing that

(01:01:03):
these secret societies put out all this Shakespeare stuff. So
that's part of it. Is John D, Francis Bacon, and
Edward de vere these other figures collaborated on the Shakespeare
material and then put it out saying like, oh yeah,
we didn't you know, this William Shakespeare guy made it,

(01:01:25):
you know. And in truth, the actual living William Shakespeare,
the guy that was supposedly William Shakespeare, when they did
research on him, they found out that he wasn't even
literate and his children like didn't read or write. So like,
this is the most influential writer of this time and

(01:01:49):
his own children don't even read and write. Like, it
just doesn't make sense. So yeah, the whole thing's sketchy,
you know, people. The official record is, oh, he was
this man named William Shakespeare from Stratford upon Avon, But
that guy just it doesn't make sense. So yeah, I
mean this is like a two hundred year old conspiracy

(01:02:10):
theory though, because this Shakespeare is like three four hundred
years old now. But John d would have been connected
to it because he was like the elder of Francis Bacon.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
I think that Shakespeare was his own person. I think
Bacon was his own person. I think that there were
all their own people, you know, the whole if one
was the other, you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Have you looked at the have you looked at anything?
Are you just saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
No, I've looked at some of it. I've looked at
some of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
The I think William Shakespeare was a real person.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
That William Shakespeare was a real person, Yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
But do you think that he was the person who
was involved in the Shakespeare stuff or do you think
he was just a fall guy escapegoat, the guy who
took the the front man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Rather, it could have been a group of people, you know,
it could have been a group of people. But the
reason I think that he was a real person was
because allegedly he was traveling.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Not saying I'm not saying he was fake. I'm saying
that the guy who they say is William Shakespeare was
just like like a like a Patsy idiot, a fool
that they used as like the because they didn't want
it to be traced back to them for whatever reason.
So he did exist, he just wasn't the author. I mean,

(01:03:34):
you're saying that a guy traveled around the world as
William Shakespeare.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Uh no, No, So when he traveled around with John
d that it was him and allegedly his brother, and
they were called the Garland Brothers, and there are records
of them being with John d traveling around Europe, being
a part of their seances and their workings. And that's
how allegedly William Shakespeare learned about the occult. And there

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a connection between The Tempest, which is a story that
kind of reflects and mimics John Dee in a sort
of way, right conjuring storms, and then that one guy
with the tower that you went to, I think in
Rhode Island or whatever he wrote a book on or
wrote a piece on how well John d could have

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helped write The Tempest play with the whole even tempest,
that whole name and that every you know, ten letters.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
But yeah, Francis Bacon and John D were in the
same court, so they were like coworkers essentially, not that
that word really makes the perfect definition, but yeah, they
were peers. They they knew each other. So whereas William
Shakespeare was a guy who like literally his name wasn't
even Shakespeare and he lived in like a like a hut,

(01:04:55):
like he was not like a noble, he would not
have been someone who hung out with John D. That's
for sure. Francis Bacon would have definitely, But so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Willie william S Baxpear is a whole different guy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Well, it's a it's a creation. It's like they took this.
They took the name because Shakespeare has some sort of
occult symbolism, the spear of long longiness who pierced the
side of Christ as he was on the So that's
what Shakespeare refers to. So they created this character. And

(01:05:30):
so they've done computer analysis on the Shakespeare writings and
they've found that not only is it not William Shakespear,
but it's more than one person. So you're absolutely right
that John D could have collaborated on the tempest, or
at least this this guy you're talking about, could be

(01:05:50):
right in his hypothesis that but yeah, there's there's a
lot of evidence. And again this is like a two
hundred year old conspiracy, Like people have been talking about
this for a long time, like because frantzis spacing the
other thing, there's a lot of strange stuff about him.
Oh man, well, I guess I'll just shut up. Then yep,

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there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Bro, take that, put that in your in your pipe
and smoke that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Dude. Well, you know, nobody, nobody likes when people are
smart asses. So maybe even Google it just wants to
put me in my place right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Oh oh, there are no original manuscripts, not so much
as a couple written in Shakespeare's own hand has been
proven to exist. In fact, there's no hard evidence that
Will Shakespeare of Stratford upon Avon, revered as the greatest
author in the English language, could even write even right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Because yeah, this is what I'm telling you, dude, This
is not like run of the mill TikTok conspiracy. This
conspiracy theory. Like Mark Twain believed in this conspiracy theory,
Orson Wells believed in this conspiracy. Sigmund Freud believed in
this conspiracy theory.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Manley P. Hall believed it. Listen, here's the thing. The
point is, we have writings of you know, a group
or Bacon, whoever the hell was. We have uh uh,
you know the writings. It's a real thing, and allegedly,
you know, William Shakespeare was also a secret agent, he

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was also a spy. So I gat and think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Well, if he was Francis Bacon, then yeah, he definitely
was a spy. We know Francis Bacon was a spy.
So like to say William Shakespeare was this and that
is like saying Francis Bacon was this and that, because
according to this theory they're the same person. And what
you're talking about makes total sense if it was Francis
Bacon or any of his friends, because they're all working

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for the queens. They were all well, but think about
this too, So what is the Royal Society really all about?
The Royal Society is an information gathering operation. It's an
intelligence agency. It's one of the world's first intelligence agencies.
So okay, the world's first intelligence agency goes around the world.

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They gather all this information as much as they can,
and then they publish in the English language, which becomes
the global language pretty much. It's the world's most common
language now thanks to the British Empire, which, as you know,
John de first uttered that phrase and was a part
of this group. So like these information gatherers go around

(01:08:42):
the world and then they just so happened to come
up with like the biggest, most influential literary work. Like
it's obviously a plan, it's obviously they've there. It's a
secret society. And if you're in the club, you s
mail your brothers farts and you say they smell great,

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because that's what you're supposed to do in the clump.
And this is like the biggest most gassed up thing
in English history is Shakespeare. And why it's because of
what you were just talking about with the Heshahens. It's
mind control, is taking people away from the Christian mindset
and into this new mindset which is more easy to control.

(01:09:24):
Because they were having all these fights and arguments Protestant
ever since Luther Protestant versus Catholic, and then Anglican and
all these other denominations fighting with each other. So what
do they do, They say, we're gonna just completely get
out of the game of fighting over what religion is,
which won the third, and we're going to just focus

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on the material and the science. And that's how they
created scientism. And it was through the Shakespeare work, because
Shakespeare was all about mocking the traditions that I guess
now days it's very hard to relate to because we're
not in the medieval mindset. But for the people in
the medieval mindset, the Shakespeare stuff was like it was

(01:10:09):
like a complete slap in the face to anybody who
was like a traditional type of person. There's like gay sex,
there's lesbians doing this and that. There's magic, the occult,
you know, a Aristocrats up to no good, the Friar
turns Juliette into a gold idol. You know, like there's

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all kinds of weird stuff in Shakespeare. Honor. If a
cabilitudinitibis honor, If a cabilitudinititibis I think I kind of
nailed it. What does that, What does that have to
do with anything? What does that word mean.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
It's a word that means the state of being able
to achieve honors, and it's mentioned in uh one of
William Shakespeare's plays and eighteen honorificbilitudinibbis Let's see here, uh
comprise numerous of Bacon's oratories and this disquisitions, and had

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also apparently held copies of the play Richard the Second
Richard the Third The ol Dogs, but these had been removed.
On the outer she was scrawled repeatedly the names of
Bacon and Shakespeare, along with the name of Thomas Nash.
There were several quotations from Shakespeare in a reference to
the word honor fibc, which appears in Shakespeare's Love Labors Lot.

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Give it a try, honorific Bill Itton.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Then yeah, you already lost it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
But that's Okayikes, yeah, my port the brain can't even
comprehend that. So try wake, oh waitegan is Wake is interesting.
I like Terrence McKenna's interpretation of it because I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Didn't know Terrence McKenna had an interpretation of it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I'm gonna blow your mind. I'm gonna send it to
you so you can listen to it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Can I tell you what I was telling Thomas about.
I don't think you put the episode out yet, but
I was telling Thomas that I kind of think that
it's meant to put you in a trance. Like you
start reading all these words that are put together, and
words from different languages and multi syllable words, and it
kind of puts you in a trance state. I don't know.

(01:12:32):
Maybe Terrence McKenna would have thought the same thing, since
he is all about psychedelics.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
I just send it to you. Listen to that and
we'll do another episode because it's mind blowing. And essentially
McKenna says that this book is meant to if all
of humanity is wiped out, to be able to recreate
the human language over again with Finnegan's Wake. Okay, and

(01:13:02):
and you're absolutely right with the thing of putting you
in a sort of trance. And you know this ties
into WILLIAMS Burrows, you know, cut up method and using
words as a sort of you know, invocation or sort
of again kind of mk ultra like that. That's the
whole thing that we're talking about, Like can words influence you? Right,

(01:13:23):
you were talking about William Shakespeare and the fact that
he has attributed so many words to the language.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Let's go into this link I just sent you real quick,
and then maybe we'll stop there and come back to
this conversation after I look at the link you sent me.
But this kind of puts a crescendo on what you're
talking about overall, I think, and maybe this is a
good intro for you to get into Robert Frederick's work

(01:13:54):
because I sent you a substacks, so you should be
able to see the whole article. Yeah, so yeah, they
he kind of talks about this whole theater of the mind,
which is a big concept in our conspiracy world, where
we talk about these figures like Trump and Obama and
Biden and all the other you know, people that take

(01:14:15):
the stage, the political stage and captivate the hearts and
minds of people in this way where you know, we
as conspiracy theorists have to keep our head on a
swivel because we're like, oh my god, Trump, he's draining
the swamp. And then we're like, oh my god, Trump,
He's in the Israel cabal. And then it's like, oh
my god, Trump is starting World War three. Oh my god,

(01:14:37):
Trump is ending World War three. Like you don't know
which way to look. And I think this is a
part of what was created through Shakespeare, and not just Shakespeare,
but like the whole education system around Shakespeare too, because
you know, this is big, This is a big deal.
Like every college has a drama department, And what do

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they talk about first and foremost in those in that
sector of education? Shakespeare? Right, language, what do they talk
about Shakespeare? Yeah, that's literally what it was. It was
like a bunch of smart, nerdy guys who knew they
weren't cool or popular, found like the good looking kind

(01:15:23):
of doofyed, dumb idiot guy in town who's tall, maybe
like you're were porting for duty, that's right, these plays.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Because we gotta influence the English language.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Well. And if he was a real person, he was
an actor. Which who better to pick as your person
to lead this big hoax than an actor? Right? Like, yes,
I don't know he he is a perfect guy for
the role.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
I've seen these conspiracies, you know, these conspiracy videos floating
around Instagram were on, you know, like Donald Trump's IMDb
or whatever shows that he's an actor. Jd Vance actor. Uh,
what's the guy?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Zolinsky actor? Yeah, Zolensky actor.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
And it's interesting, right because.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
You see Zelensky dancing in high heels in that music video.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
I've seen that before.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Yes, oh, Mike. I just saw that last week. I
was like, what the fuck is thing?

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
But the fact that he was actually in like all
these comedy movies and stuff like that, that's pretty bizarre.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I'm going to as he played a president in the
movie in a movie and then became the president of Ukraine.
They literally used that movie. It was propaganda to get
him in office. That's crazy, which I don't think they
really need that in Ukraine. It's not like they're like
the you know, the reputation of having a huge democracy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
But Donald Trump has been in movies.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Yeah, He's in one of like the most classic Christmas
movies of all time, Home Alone.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Yeah, so all the world of stage right, this model
of the Globe Theater. Did you know that the Globe
Theater is actually one of the most famous theaters to
have ever existed, which is attributed to William Shakespeare. But
did you know that we have zero evidence of.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
It, zero evidence of the Globe Theater. Yes, that's kind
of weird. There's a town next to where I grew
up called Stratford, and they had the Shakespeare World Theater
Globe Theater. They had a theater named after Shakespeare and

(01:17:33):
some kids burned it down a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
That's interesting because the original one burned down and they
they rebuilt it from memory.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
So there are plans for reconstructing the original Globe Theater,
but it's not possible to make an exact replica, and
the reason for that is because there doesn't exist any there.
There is only two pictures of it, pre fire and
post fire from a picture from a drawing of a

(01:18:06):
skyline of it was London or whatever the hell it was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Yeah, naturally, So you're saying that it's only the only
image of it is an illustration. There's no photo of it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
There's nothing of it. And they believe that they let
me find the picture here. They believe that they have
found the remnants of a piece of the Globe Theater,
which you can go and see in person, but we
don't actually know what it even looked like. Let me

(01:18:40):
see where if I can find this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Sky So is it possible that this is like a
Rosicrucian larp kind of thing, where it's like the theater
of the mind, the Globe Theater that never existed, like
the theater in your head.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
If you get into Robert Floods you know, you were
talking about memory and mind and stuff like that. If
you get into Robert and I did a whole short
on this, by the way, so or right, I think
I never put it out, but I wrote a short
on this. If you get into like Francis Yate's work
and Robert Flood and all these guys that were using
you know, the mnemonic techniques, you know, memory and everything,

(01:19:15):
there is this belief that memory that the mind can
sort of give you sort of special powers and something.
Again I haven't deciphered it. I still don't understand it.
But what I do understand is that how you said
that perhaps these theaters, which, by the way, this this theater,

(01:19:35):
the Globe theater is the original archetype of what we
now have as you know, the main stage, and eventually
it evolved into the movie theater. Okay, so it's all
an evolution that essentially, Shakespeare and all these guys, this

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group of people, they influence quite literally reality through writing.
I mean, any major world religion is just writing that
has affected the reality of people. I mean, that's the
reality of it. But yeah, this Francisiates writes about it.
Francis Yates, The Art of Memory and also the Shakespeare's Theater,

(01:20:21):
which it's called Theater of the World. And she gets
into the whole thing that maybe perhaps the theater was
made in certain geometric proportions to kind of sort of
elevate your consciousness in this sort of weird way. You
have Robert Flood in there. But point being right here,

(01:20:44):
Francis Yates, the Theater of the World. Point being is
that technically we don't have any evidence that this thing existed.
William A globe theater remains, so they think that the globe.
You know, that this piece here is part was part
of the Globe Theater.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
That's almost the book by Francis Yates called.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Theater of the World.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Okay, dude. Architecture, I'm telling you, man, this is like
where the rubber meets the road with the occult, because
the money it takes to do these types of projects
is huge, right, and whenever you have something like a
fabled building like this, you know, it's kind of it

(01:21:32):
reminds me like they're creating like a Solomon's Temple legend,
but around Shakespeare, you know what I mean, And the
whole idea with Solomon's Temple, that's the only evidence of it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Yeah, they're like, this is the we think this is
the foundation line.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
And what if dude, all right, look at that. Hold on,
go back to that picture. Imagine yourself bird's eye view
completely and that circle is complete. Kind of reminds me
of the stuff that John Dee was writing in those
Nate in those notebooks, like the occult symbols with the

(01:22:12):
circles and the words going around the circles. Like, I
don't know, that's just kind of a stretch, but it's
what we like to do, right, That's why they call
me stretch Steve's But anyways.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Here's one of the pictures of the skyline.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
But think about this, think about this. What stick with
me here? So the globe, the globe, theater, theater of
the mind, theater of the world. What's Solomon's Temple? Solomon's
Temple is supposed to be an anatomical correspondence of a
human being, right, So the building is built. A lot
of churches, Yeah, a lot of churches are built like

(01:22:49):
this too, where there's a head, there's arms, there's a body,
and there's legs of the building literally, and it creates
this effect that who knows, maybe what I start to
think of the effect that has on the person inside
of the structure, but then also like what of the

(01:23:10):
structure itself, what kind of energy does it take on?
But it kind of reminds me of the Solomon's Temple
idea with this, you know circle globe theater. If it's
supposed to be like an orb I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
So that's what you think when you think globe. The
reason that they call it the globe theater was because
it was a microcosm of the macro and apparently there
was like, you know, the different layers and levels of it.
You know, the top represented the sky, the bottom represented
you know, the earth, and then the bottom. I forgot
what it represented, but yeah. The precise location of the

(01:23:45):
building remained unknown until a small part of the foundation,
including one of the original pier bases a peer base,
was discovered in nineteen eighty nine by the Department of
Greater London Archaeology beneath the park the car park at
the rear of Anchor Terrace Street. The shape of the
foundation is now reports.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Oh okay,
never mind, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
The shape of the foundation is now replicated on the
surface as the majority of the foundation lies beneath the
street a listed building. No further excavations have been permitted,
so it's like, hey, hey, hey, hey hey, No no no, no, no,
you can't you can't know where it actually know what
you know?

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
What anchor is? Right, Like what that symbolically represents? No
So the anchor is a super Masonic symbol. It connects
to the Phoenicians, but it's also a biblical symbol that
relates to Noah. So the fact that this is in

(01:24:48):
Anchor Terrace is not totally regular, Like there's some synchronicity
or twilight language going on there. I thought for a
second the way that that was written that they were
going to say that the Globe Theater just so happens
to be right where the UCM is, And I'm like, oh,
go figure, but that's not the case.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
So right here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
A modern reconstruction of the theater, named Shakespeare's Globe, opened
in nineteen ninety seven with the production of Henry the Fifth.
It is an academic here you go, an academic approximation
of the original design based on available evidence of the
fifteen ninety nine and sixteen fourteen buildings, and is located
approximately seven hundred and fifty feet from the site of
the original theater. The globe's detailed dimensions are unknown, but

(01:25:33):
its shape and size can be estimated from scholarly inquiry
over the last two centuries. The evidence suggests that it
was a three story, open air amphitheater, approximately one hundred
feet in diameter that could house up to three thousand spectators.
The globe is shown around Hollers sketch of the building
later incorporated. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Dude, check this out. So do you know what Alisir
Rowley's family was involved in, Well, a beer. They were brewers, right,
and brewer brewing is very much connected to the occult
because you need to have knowledge of herbs and such, right,

(01:26:15):
which at one point in time, yeah, alchemy and so
so the where the globe theater just so happens to
be is the site of Anchor Terrorists. But Anchor Terrorists
is listed as a listed building in the UK, which
means it's like a historical site in America. So they

(01:26:35):
can't excavate Anchor Terrorists because it's our it's protected. So
go figure. It just so happens to be under something
that they'll never be able to demolish or excavate, right,
but to add, you know, a step further, it's Anchor Brewery.
So again that symbolic Masonic kind of anchor symbolism mixed

(01:26:57):
in with the brewery. I don't see much of it
out the family, but it does say that it was
founded by John Perkins and Robert Barclay of the banking
the Barclay banking family, which the Barclay family. Don't they
own like the Knicks or something like they own like
a huge basketball team, or they own the center where

(01:27:20):
the Knicks play or something, the Barclay Center. It's in
La or New York City. Where's the Barclay Center. I
think that's in like LA or something.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
New York.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Oh, it is in New York. Yeah, that's where the
Knicks play, the Barclay Center.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
I know nothing about sports, so you got me there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
I don't know much about sports either, other than what
I hear colloquially. So yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Think about this because right, this cost one billion dollars
to make, one point three seven and twenty twenty four dollars.
I recently went to the Ben's Stadium in Atlanta that also.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
Bro hold on. This brewery has been visited by the
Prince of Wales Otto von Bismarck, which was like an
important German aristocrat, Napoleon Bonaparte. Uh, and then a guy
from Egypt, Ibrahim Pasha.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Have I showed you?

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
We're going all over the place. Is this like an
Ossyrian type of thing?

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
No, they actually have Napoleon Bonapart's penis. It's owned by
a family.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Huh. But isn't that weird though? Like, Okay, so the
globe theater burns down and then this anchor terrace with
these banking families gets built right on the side.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Yeah, woh, almost like it's got some power. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Okay, so you you mentioned Napoleon and his member and
now you're showing me a mountain that kind of looks
like a giant vagina. What's going on here?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
This is allegedly where the Noah. This is actually what
they claim is Noah's Ark. So we're talking about things
that you know, haven't really been found because blah blah blah. Well,
Noah's Ark is another one of those things, is like where.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
It's on Mount error at.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Well this I don't know where this is in in Turkey,
but some people.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
That's Mount error at that we're looking at right there? Ye, yeah,
see Mount Ararat. How do I know all this stuff?
It doesn't. Nobody likes to know it all one.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
It's funny like our podcast listeners like they love us
but for some reason, like nobody likes to know it
all But anyways, okay, so I didn't know that. I
was just guessing Mount ara At good guess, thanks Swan cool.
Why is this excavated? Is that why it looks like that?

(01:29:54):
I kind of made like a a big joke there.
I think kind of look like that, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
I think they said it was a natural formation last
time I checked that. It's been debunked. But let me
pull it up. So the idea of no as Ark
is okay. In Turkey based on the Bible, no definite
evidence has been found archaeologists. Archaeologists came to have found
the true location at the Duru Pinar site on Mount

(01:30:24):
ten Durak in eastern Turkey. So I guess it's not
the area believe to be the one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
So they found wood, They found wood from a boat
on that mountain.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Well, I don't know if they found it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
I think it's I don't think it's been proven that
that that is actually Yeah, see they found something petrified ruines.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Yeah, they what they believe is right, They don't they
don't know what it. Geologists assert that it is an
entirely natural formation, but have nominated as a as geological heritage.
So I don't know if they've done tests or anything there.
But apparently earthquakes exposed the formation in nineteen forty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Well, you know, they say the Garden of Eden is
over there too, in Turkey.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
No, it's in Florida. Bro, we got we got the receipts.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Yeah, obviously pre old World Florida's groundbreaking conclusions.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
He's not the one that created that, though.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Where does that idea originate?

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Ee calloway has been talking about that since it's a
long time now. E E Callaway was a he we
pull it up here.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
I don't doubt it. I like it. I think the
Fertile Crescent definitely could be the Gulf of America sounds
a lot cooler now.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
So the Garden of Eden. He wrote in the beginning.
He claims that Torres State Park is the biblical Garden
of Eden, and he's been talking about this since since
a long time now. Bro, this is where gopher woods exists,
and like that's part of the whole you know, narrative,

(01:32:20):
biblical narrative if you will. You have the rivers that
flow through there. It's at the Florida and Georgia border,
the fag border. So it might be fake and gay,
but that's besides the point, you know, point being that
this is a good contender. And maybe there was multiple
Garden of Edens, like we don't really know, right, like.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Or yeah, maybe maybe it was the Garden of Eden
because they came from the Fertile Crescent and then where
they settled after the cataclysm became known as the Guard
of Eden because that's where they were from, rather than

(01:33:02):
that's where they were, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
So it says here that Vitaria State Park has trees
that are among the rarest oldest worldwide.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
So this guy, let me see since when he's been
talking about it. Here you go, Tyler from the in
the mid nineteen hundreds. This dude's been talking about for long.
He even had the Garden of Eden, he told he's
been talking about since nineteen seventy two.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Bro. Well, and it's not like you know, out of nowhere.
You know a lot of people who came to America
have considered this place. I mean, that's what the whole
Mormon religion is based on. So it's not completely out
of nowhere, but the Mormons talk about I don't. I

(01:33:54):
think the Mormons think it's out where they are now
in Utah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
Check this, Brother Dud had signs up where Adam and
Eve butt their first before the original Garden of Eden Bristol.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
And that's the other thing too, Like, you know, the
whole East Coast was named by these people who were
you know, their whole lives were revolved around what they
read and learned from the Bible. For the most part,
a lot of people only read that. And so there's
all these Biblical town names everywhere, Bristol, Bethany, Bethlehem, Salem,

(01:34:32):
like it's all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
Let's wrap up with Bonaparte's penis, since you haven't heard.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Of hit me with this. Is this like some kind
of osiris ritual thing here?

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Yeah, because I recently talked about this and I learned
that Nebe right, No is it not neb Who's the
guy that was like the the Tower of Babbel. He's
in the story the Tower about Nimrod. The Nimrod is
actually the biblical version of Osiris. I didn't know that

(01:35:07):
until recently.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
So. Napoleon's penis was allegedly amputated during an autopsy shortly
after his death in eighteen twenty one. Since then, it
has passed through several owners, including ASW. Rosenbach, who exhibited
in New York in nineteen twenty seven. It was purchased
by John K. Vladimir in nineteen seventy seven and is

(01:35:29):
still owning his family. It was described as similar to
a piece of leather or a small shriveled eel. So
there's pictures of it. I'm not gonna pull it up,
but there's pictures of it. And this was a guy
who allegedly was making deals with the devil, right, the
red Man. He was having meetings with this red entity

(01:35:51):
that was telling him to take over the world and
to fight the wars that he fought and all this stuff.
So it would make sense that, right, they have the
head of John the Baptist, they have the skull and
bones of Geronimo because he was super natural. What a
better thing to have than the penis of Napoleon bone,

(01:36:12):
a part, right, he got a boner to pick with
you brow a bone apart? So it's okay, allegedly a thing. Bro.
Why they have it is a long term New Jersey resident.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
This will show it je. It's one and a half
inch long penis, last one to be in the possession
of New York's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
How did it end up in New Jersey? Because apparently
Napoleon Bonaparte didn't he die on an island? Wasn't he
like put on an island to die? And then the
story goes that it actually was his brother and he
had a body double lookalike brother who took his place
for whatever reason, and Napoleon lived the rest of his

(01:37:04):
life in New Jersey? Have you ever heard that? Conspiracy theories?

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
And doctor J. K. Lamir, who did extensive research on
the Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy assassinations, died in
two thousand and seven at age ninety two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Huh, that's the guy who got Napoleon's penis.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Yeah, and now his daughter has it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Okay, But again, like, how did they get the penis?
Because there is the secretion, okay, so how did it
get to auction?

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
Like where you want to follow the chain of custody
of Napoleon Bonaparte's. Yeah, dick, bro, I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Know when it was separated, because here's the thing, buddy,
Apparently Napoleon dynamite. Napoleon Bonaparte died on an island. Don't
you know that?

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
No, I don't know how he died.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Actually, yeah, they like this. Whole official story is that
they put him on an island because he was all right,
and they got an exile.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Um. So when Napoleon died an exile on island of
Saint Helena in eighteen twenty one, his doctor surrepidously took
his penis during the autopsy, surreptitiously eat a bag of dicks.
Eat a bag of Napoleon dicks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Mark people say that word before?

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Who smuggled it to Corsica. The priest was killed in
a bizarre blood Vandetta says.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Wait here, why did he have a doctor with him?
If he was exiled on an island, he had a house,
a doctor. They just set him up with like a
whole village.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
Brow history is a lie, don't you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Well? I heard that it was actually his brother who
took his place on that island and that Napoleon went
on to live the remainder of his life in the
colony of New Jersey, which is so weird because you
just showed us that his penis is in New Jersey.
So maybe there's something to that, dude. Maybe this conspiracy

(01:39:10):
theorist guy who died at the age of ninety two
in two thousand and seven, maybe he knew something.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Abraham Lincoln's bloodstained collar and a treasure trove of items
from his own idiosyncratic relationships as some of the most
important historical events in that this is a wizard, bro
He's collecting like these magical relics the blood of Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
And look at that though he had an idiosyncratic relationship
to some of the most important historical events, sounds like
twilight language. Sounds like synthnicity to me.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
He was an attending eurologist to Nazi prisoners at the
Near Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
And he worked on the autopsy of JFK. Dude, look
at this. We're putting a freaking.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
God a bo on this.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
We started talking about maybe he did the fake autopsy
that they where they took J. B. Tibbet's body and
switched it. We just found him with the helping Napoleon's penis. One.

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Look at that he has been Napoleon's penis this whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Dude, Well, look at how everything comes full circle.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
Whoa, dude, that's kind of creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
What's this guy's name, Doctor Jacob Latimer.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
John Latimer, doctor j John K Latimer.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
John K. Latimer. Okay, cool, Yeah, that's gonna go on
to my search history now too, so we're both implicated.
When the AI comes and tracks down our search history,
they'll know that we know about John Kingsley Latimer, who
was born at Mount Clemens, Michigan and died in t Neck,

(01:40:59):
New Jersey. And uh he was a Columbia University urologist. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
Oh, it's kind of creepy. He wrote three hundred and
seventy five papers helping to establish pediatric urology.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Okay, yeah, that is that is the type of person
that would probably have maybe some reason to play ball,
you know, compromised as they say. Wow, okay, really strange stuff, dude,
look at that. And he investigated the Kennedy assassination, which

(01:41:35):
is interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Because non governmental people not related to the US government
to examine the evidence of the autopsy huh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Interesting. Okay, so he probably wasn't involved in the plot then,
but maybe, yeah, maybe he he wrote a book about
it too, Kennedy and Lincoln medical and ballistic comparisons to
their assassinations. Maybe this is the guy who popularized or
started that whole thing that can you know how people say,
you know Kennedy and Lincoln. There's all these weird links

(01:42:07):
to their assassinations, like with the assassin and how one
was in a schoolhouse and shot and ran into a
theater and then you know this, then Booth was in
the theater, ran to a schoolhouse and all these other
weird sync ups. Yeah, maybe maybe he was hearing about
that too. Huh. The thorburn position with elbows extending armshold

(01:42:32):
inwards as a neurological reaction to the bullet wound to
his spine. Wow, okay, huh. So he definitely got shot
in the neck, which goes against the theory about the
uh about the you know one shooter because the shot
that hit him in the neck they obscured by doing

(01:42:53):
a tracheotomy, a posts mortem tracheotomy, which makes no sense.
So yeah, wow, that's interesting. So we found a guy
who like us, it's very interested in strange stuff, including
Napoleon's penis. Well, all right, one, this is a great episode.

(01:43:13):
As usual, we always find some crazy stuff to talk about,
flat tires and all from.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
The Illuminati Confirm RSS feed. I'm gonna put this out
in an Illuminati confirmed episode, even though Chris isn't here,
which I'm sure Illuminati confirmed that would have probably blown
his mind. I'm sure he's never heard of Napoleon's penis either.
I'm spreading awareness of mister Bonaparte's member alright, gold member, right,

(01:43:43):
the whole double O seven and everything like that, So right,
we're gonna get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
Right on, all right, gold member. James Bond boom Let's
Dominati confirmed and the thing you sent me, plus the
Shakespeare stuff until next time. You've been confirmed later on

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