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Hello, friends and welcome to thefinal episode of Jules loves me the podcast.
Did you say final?
What?
Oh my goodness.
There's so much to catch up on,so let's not wait another minute
and let's get this party started.
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I've been doing this podcast fora long time, like five years.
And in that time it's changedand grown and kind of morphed
and we've honored that.
So it started off with meditations.
I was doing guidedmeditations and sharing those.
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And then we started to have more of the.
Conversation between us and I wasalso having conversations with
paprika Southern magazine thatwas in print and on the podcast.
Super fun.
Go scroll back on whatever playlistyou have, and you can see some
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of those beautiful conversations.
And after the pandemic hit, we reallystarted to work together on the podcast
and it has helped me tremendously.
To just be able to work throughsome things and also hear feedback
from listeners saying, yeah, me too.
I'm in the same place or, oh, I know youwere talking about your life, but you were
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talking about my life at the same time.
So just to be able to have thatconnection and, um, a community
has been really important and fun.
This podcast is so fun to do.
Yes.
I know there's many timeswhere we feel like, is it work?
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What, I guess maybe it is work.
Maybe it's not work.
So it's been such a joy for us thatit's something that we want to not only
continue doing, but we also want tomake sure that we're growing with it
and allowing it to continue growing.
Is that, is that fair to say?
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So in that growing, let's talk about whereJuul loves me came from to begin with.
Cause I mean, that is likea really important piece.
And I don't know the lasttime I've talked about it.
So back in 2016, I was doing.
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A lot of makeup classes.
I was teaching makeup all the time.
And in those classes, I was discoveringthat my students, whether one-on-one,
or in groups didn't matter, they alwayshad a hard time learning something
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new because of all the negative self.
And I quickly realized, wait aminute, there's a deeper need here
beyond the makeup, more than makeup.
And so I started realizing, oh, well thatshould be the name of our makeup line.
That was also going along.
The education cause Ineeded school supplies.
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Right.
I needed to have this makeup and theoh, Juul is more than makeup because
that's what started to become clearto me in my spiritual journey was that
there was more to me than just makeup.
Right.
And that was a big point that I kepttrying to claim for myself, still
hugging into beauty, which was where ourwell, which was my whole world at that.
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At that stage.
I definitely, there was no idea inmy mind yet of writing, uh, teaching
anything other than makeup speaking,none of that was on my radar.
That's kind of crazy to like, takeit back that far where you're like,
didn't you always want to writea book didn't you always want to.
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Do motivational speaking, didn't you?
Oh, no, that, that actually is not thatI didn't want to it's that I didn't
even know that it was in there yet.
So I'm doing these classes.
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I'm struggling to get my students to lookat themselves in the mirror because once
that makeup comes off, Oh, my goodness.
All the insecurities come out.
And there's something reallyinteresting about working with a
professional on an area where you feel.
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'cause a lot of excuses started tocome out or a lot of reasonings or a
lot of, you know, well, I'm so sorry.
This is so going to be so hard for you.
Cause I'm this age or,oh, I wish I was younger.
So it would be easierfor you or, uh, too bad.
You have to deal with this nose and youknow, like always come out and I was
like, I don't see you like that at all.
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Not even a little bit.
So I would spend so much time trying to.
Just help them to feel moreconfident, more secure, safe, safe
with me to just let down all thedefenses and just enjoy yourself.
Let's enjoy ourselves togetherand we'd work through.
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The different blocks and be able tohave a makeup session I'm telling
you I'm, you know, I joke and say, Ifelt like more of a beauty therapist
than a makeup artist at this point,because I realized that there is a lot
happening under the surface of makeup.
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And it was really interesting, um, tohave that align with my spiritual journey.
That was unfolding because I couldfeel things were changing there too.
And I was like, why am Igoing to do with myself?
I have all these parts of meand they don't necessarily go
together all the time, but I wastrying to make them go together.
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You remember the classes?
How I'd have a Ted talk.
Let me stand up here and tell youall about all the things we're not
going to do, including we're notgoing to talk badly about ourselves.
We're not going to allowany of this negative.
And we're going to focus onbringing the interview out.
Right.
I would have to set the tone if you will.
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Right?
Right.
The makeup oath is what I would call it.
The makeup scout honor.
So before that, Be vulnerable though.
And I would share this presentationthat I'd put together, basically
sharing my story and where had comefrom and just to share my heart.
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So you would see me as a person.
Versus someone that wasa beauty professional.
Like I wanted you to see my heart.
And so that's how it, uh, came out, wasto have these, like I said, these Ted
talks, you know, these, this motivationalspeech before your makeup class.
And so I knew something was happening.
It was like, man, this is really.
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Um, the man, I, I'm not surehow this goes together anymore.
And at the same time I was thinking,and my heart's not really in this
makeup business anymore because there's,there's got to be more to it than this.
And it being my purpose, the meaning.
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Of what I was doing withmy time and my life.
Um, you know, all of that and alsoseeing the greater need of my students
who were coming to me, who werejust blossoming after our session.
And I realized something's definitelyhappening and whatever's happening.
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I have to figure out how to work with.
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So Juul loves me.
Joel's loves me comes aboutbecause friends would call.
And say, oh, I need some jewelsloves, I need some jewels love.
And it was like a bat signal wouldgo out, like they'd put the call
and we would joke and say like, itwas like a heart in the sky because
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somebody needed some love for me.
And I was happy to answer the call.
And so.
What became kind of a joke, you know,just like here I come with, the love
is like, all right, well, let me putthis somewhere because we were about to
break up with our lives, break up withthat makeup business and go on the road.
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Full-time in our Airstream so Icould figure out what was happening.
Right.
And we thought, oh, well, I'm notgoing to be here in person to.
You know, love all my friends, bewith my students and encourage them.
So let's try to have a spaceonline that gives that love,
shares that love puts it out there.
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And that's where Joel's loves me was born.
And it started off asessentially affirmation.
Just affirmations.
I would just send out someaffirmations, tell some stories and
they had nothing to do with makeup.
And that was so weird for me atfirst, but then it became natural
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because I was able to focus on whatwas going on there, that inner work.
So from the outer beauty to theinner healing is how I look at it.
And I was able to.
Kind of a step back, if you will.
Once we got the beauty out of the way,and I don't mean to talk about anything,
beauty in a negative way, it was almostlike it was all encompassing for me.
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So I needed to set it aside so I couldthen see what else was going on within.
Um,
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You literally, almost like did one ofthose crazy sidebar things to read, like
unzip yourself and like step out of thescam that your end or something else.
You know what I mean?
That was like, you know, you, youreally, we had to, we as a group,
I mean, I was there with you withwithin beauty selling makeup, you
know, running classes for the study.
As you were so good, I can still make up.
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I definitely care.
I knew I knew your talking points.
I knew your selling points.
I knew how to help peoplewith color edited the videos.
Yeah.
Mr.
Doll face.
But at the same time, I remember usleaving the studio one time after her
class and being like, God, that wasso taxing, you know, just the whole
room wrote the whole thing and thenjust, we didn't feel good after it.
It was the biggest thing.
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We didn't feel good.
We were like, something's gotta change.
And I'm like, Well, whereare we going to go from here?
Like, how do we, how do we make somethingdifferent out of what we have right now?
How does this puzzle go back togetherin a way that makes us happy?
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So, as you're listening to this story,have you found yourself in a place where.
You know, you want to change, you know,you want things to be different, but
you're not really sure what that means.
Is there a time that you'rethinking about right now where you
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thought, well, if I'm not a fillin the blank that who would I be?
So just think about that for a moment.
All right.
Let's get back to this.
So I knew I wanted my life to change.
I knew there was some highercalling deeper meaning purpose
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that was calling to me.
I felt like Elsa and frozen too.
She kept hearing.
Yes, baby.
That's exactly it.
So that's going off.
Nobody else can hear it, but mebecause, uh, spoiler alert, your
calling is a private call, not aconference call, so not everybody
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else is going to hear what you hear.
So I'm trying to figure out, okay.
Wished it, but you also were feeling this.
So this is the gift that you and Iwere in alignment and on the same
page of being willing to surrender.
And what I mean by surrenderis we sold everything.
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We left what we knew to go figureout something new and we loved it.
You know, we share that entire journey.
Um, and the hopeful house episodeor where you were able to.
Enjoy traveling and get to this place thatwe are now, which is in hopeful, Georgia.
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And we love it.
25 acre home said, what's up, can'twait till the work clears up and
we maybe can see you here one day.
But in this moment I realized now thatback then this idea of being online, It
was a little ahead of its time becauseeverybody just was all about the meetup.
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And I also, wasn't quite surewhat was developing in my heart,
you know, what was I going to do?
What was I sharing?
What was I selling?
What was that?
I don't, I don't know.
But all I did know was.
I just had to keep followingit bit by bit by bit by bit.
And sometimes when you're followingit like that, it doesn't come in the
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timeframe that you want it to come.
I can say that almost always, ifnot always, it's going to be at a
different pace than you expect it.
And I think that's justto sharpen your skills.
You know, either it being adeveloping patients or being able
to be, um, strong in your trial byfire, you know, whichever way is
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coming, how you're going to show up.
Right?
So through this process, werealized, okay, Joel's loves me.
Is this platform because what I continuedto do online, even when we left Savannah
was I continued to work with kids.
Because that was a little sideperk of being a makeup artist.
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All the art teachers in the areawould love for me to come in and
speak to their students and tellthem how they wouldn't be starving.
Because I was an example of someonewho didn't go to college and who
still was able to pay their bills.
So they want to read, encourage them.
And I did, and I loved it.
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And the way that these kids responded tome and the way I responded to them, just,
it stayed with me even as I left Savannah.
And I thought, man, that's really nice.
I, I hope I still getto continue to do this.
Workshops or mini speeches, if you will,you know, just to connect with them.
And so I still got to dothat, even though I was away.
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One thing I knew for sure.
And leaving Savannah was.
This platform of Juul loves methis positivity platform that
you could go to at any time andfeel loved and feel cared about.
I knew that it was important even thoughI didn't quite know what it was yet.
I knew it was important.
So I just kept showing up and,and just doing my best, working
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on writing skills, working on.
Those guided meditations, figuring out howto, and you spent, you spent your first
year and the Airstream, you basicallyjust pouring yourself into notebooks.
I mean, you did that well before weleft Savannah, but you are constantly
pouring yourself into notebooks.
Um, and, uh, and actually, youknow, your first, uh, your first
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teaching from Jules is we, this morelike what we do at miracle lab in
general, um, you know, came out beforewe ever left submitted, um, and.
And that those ideas, um, were, werejust like something that churned over,
over again, your mind, you're tryingto figure out how we were going to use
these things, to help as many peopleand still create a business out of it.
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And, you know, infuse retreats into it.
Like, it was such a big idea, but we werejust on the road and just like trying to
figure out life on the road at that point.
So it was like, it was like this, wewere just caught in the space of like,
just, let's just see where it goes.
Yes.
And that's the intro to this podcast.
My life is a surrender experiment.
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So we went to, uh, New Mexico.
Was it Southern Colorado?
We saw the families.
We were inspired by theircamping, in a place where there
was no service, any of that.
And we realized.
By seeing it in person, the deeperconnection that happens when you
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unplug from your phone and thathad such a huge impact on us.
And it also infused in our hearts,the idea of creating that type of
space, wherever we would end up being.
And that was something that Iremember when we had that idea, it
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also started to grow this idea of.
It would be really cool.
If one day we could do a nonprofit,but that's so complicated and
confusing and such a giant mountain.
I'm not sure.
Well, buy the book, read it when wehave more time and then keep doing
what we're doing of figuring it out.
Right.
It just felt like that,like, it felt so far away.
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Fell so far away,everything felt so far away.
All that I could do was just, like yousaid, just pour my heart out into these
journals and try to figure out whatthe heck was trying to come through me.
And I continue to honor that itwasn't until the pandemic that I
realized I need to move in thisdirection in a more confident.
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And I had kind of gotten used tojust writing and keeping things
to myself and, you know, itwasn't really sharing so much.
I just kind of gotten used to that.
And when the pandemic hit, it waslike, don't wait, like time is now.
The urgency was so loud forme, that all I could do was
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get on Facebook live and just.
Sharing messages, just sharing the truththat I knew, sharing stories, trying
to be helpful, helping myself and justgetting this stuff out of my heart.
And I started realizing, oh, well,the stuff that you have been working
on for years and tested in Savannahbefore you left, this is all.
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Even more relevant now today.
And so that just was like so exciting.
You know, you like, whew.
I started seeing the puzzle.
I can start seeing the picture.
I just had a mess of pieces a minuteago and now, oh, there's a corner.
Oh, yay.
All my puzzle piece.
I'll get that one.
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So we figure out we really need.
Organize these teachingsa little bit more.
And through that miracle app cameto be, and we had always kind of had
this idea of like having a lab to me.
A lab is a place where you cango and experiment and just work
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things out in a safe space.
You know, like you can research,you can talk, you can connect, you
can get with your, your friends.
Study partners, whoever, you know,and just kind of work some things out.
And so I love that idea of itbeing very organic and very
personal and authentic and the eye.
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And I was going to say,and right, thank you.
And on a spiritual level, be open to, Um,
not challenge.
I don't necessarily like thatword, but to explore your beliefs.
The test, the test it out.
How's that, how's that working?
How's that working?
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How does that as your meditativepractice, help you feel, you know,
how does, uh, how does this, this bookover here that talks about Taoism?
How does that fit into your life?
Or does it, you know, some of itdoesn't work for everybody, but we don't
have to figure that out for people.
We just want to hold the space forpeople to figure out their own stuff and
provide them some truth along the way.
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Um, and that's, what's so cool about.
The potential for miracle labs is justbeing, uh, being a place where we put
everything that we find to be true.
And then people can come in andunderstand what they need to understand.
So, miracle lab is I started saying myonline classroom, it was a place where
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we're doing workshops, where we'reconnecting within a community that we've
been growing over the pandemic, butit's really exciting to think of it.
Really more of a school because there'sthese different areas within wellness.
And so for me, class is thinking likeone subject, one department, you know,
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and it's not only about spirituality.
However, I believeeverything is spiritual.
It just shows up andmanifest in different ways.
And so within that, you know,that's where I can find.
Meaning outer beauty.
That's a part of the body.
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Okay, great.
I understand why that's interestingto me, it's a form of art.
That's another part of, uh, what we share.
The other side of it is healingis really important to me.
Learning more about my emotions and howto control their responses and, or control
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my responses and reactions to thingsthat oh, that I can control these things.
Oh, I'm looking for somethingto control, control that.
Right.
Oh.
So to me it just felt, it feelsso exciting to be able to have
a place to put all this stuff.
And what you were saying aboutholding that space is so awesome.
Can I tell you something?
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Y'all heard.
I always have pleased to me.
He's just so sweet.
He listens to me talk all the timeand he's still so interested anyways.
I D I take her us.
So the, the thing is, is that I've beenin this program now, my second program
with Cornell wellness counseling atwhat's so awesome about this program
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is it's all about being clients around.
Which is exactly thephilosophy of miracle lab.
I don't want to give you advice.
I don't want to be your guru.
I don't want to come and save you.
I want to share the space whereyou can be safe to explore these
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different things about yourself.
So you can discover what worksdiscover what's not working.
And so.
I just can't even tell you, as soon asI realized that that was the approach
that they were going with with ourprogram, I could have hit the roof.
I was so excited.
I was just so like, I love what you saidabout Cornell backing, all the wound
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knowings that I've held in my heart.
It's really amazing.
The hockey stick.
It will step out that the Ivy leagueprofessors are teaching to, you
know, at a high level of education.
When you give you thisstuff out, just by like,
And that's a Testament to thank you.
I don't want to miss gratitude.
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Thank you.
And that's a Testament to wisdom.
Divine wisdom is available to all of us.
Like you don't have to have thatdegree in order for you to be
able to have wisdom in your heart.
It's all about finding itand being open to discover.
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That brings us, I think,to where we are now.
So now we get our well wherewe are going together, friends.
So this podcast.
Is going to be changing.
And what I mean by going to be changed.
I mean, the whole thing isgoing to change, but not really,
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the name is going to change.
The intro is going to change.
I know the music is different.
It's going to be different,but it's going to be okay.
But here's the best part.
Josh and I are still going toshow up telling you wholehearted
stories and sharing the lessons.
That we've learned along the way,including the research that I do and
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all of these findings that I can share.
I want to be able to share that with you.