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December 21, 2022 • 20 mins

Winning is important. Especially if you are a professional athlete. But to optimize your chances of winning in the long term, it's more important to learn, even if that means losing in the short term. After all, a loss can never be a failure if you can be open-minded enough to continue to learn. In this podcast, Leon and Shannon discuss winning and learning from various angles: sports (tennis, martial arts, gymnastics, surfing), but also life in general.

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