October 2, 2025 • 46 mins
What if the most powerful pharmacy already exists inside your brain? What if you could break free from the darkest thoughts by literally rewiring your neural pathways?
The concept might sound far-fetched to someone struggling with suicidal thoughts, but on this raw and deeply personal episode, Jessica and psychologist Diego Martinez share something remarkable: they've both been there, attempted suicide multiple times, and found their way out through neuroplasticity.
Their friendship began during a retreat in Costa Rica when both were in profound pain. Diego, while running on the beach during Jessica's darkest moment, told her something that initially sounded impossible: "You just need to reprogram your brain." This conversation became the lifeline she desperately needed. Eight years later, they reflect on their transformations with genuine amazement at how completely their lives have changed.
The discussion navigates the complexity of mental health recovery with extraordinary nuance. They emphasize that neuroplasticity isn't a quick fix or standalone solution; sometimes, medication, therapy, and other approaches are necessary first steps. Diego shares how his mother couldn't benefit from mindset work until the right medication stabilized her brain chemistry. Only then could she access other healing modalities.
What makes their message so powerful is the lived experience behind it. When they talk about pushing through triggers, creating new neural pathways, and the discipline required to change thought patterns, they speak from the trenches of their own battles. Jessica candidly shares about the PTSD she experienced after finding her brother after his suicide.
For listeners feeling trapped in darkness, this conversation offers something rare and precious, genuine hope from people who've walked the same path. Their message isn't that recovery is easy, but that it's possible, even when it seems utterly impossible.
Ready to begin your own journey with neuroplasticity? As Diego beautifully explains, begin "tasting the flavor" of the experience you want to create, allowing your brain and body to align with that new reality.
If you are in an crisis or feel unsafe, call or text 988 or dial 911 for immediate support. There are people out there who will listen and can help.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Jess G, and this is the Justin Time podcast.
If you're struggling today, Iwant you to know this podcast is
here for you, but it's not asubstitute for professional
health.
If you're in a crisis or feelunsafe, please call or text 988
or dial in 911 for immediatesupport.
There are people out there whowill listen and can help.
On this show, I'll be sharingpersonal experiences, mind such
(00:22):
just, talking with key experts,and sharing real tools that help
me go from barely surviving tothriving.
This is not about quick fixes orone size fits all advice.
It's raw, it's honest, it's whatworked for me and what I believe
can help others too.
Let's walk together fromdarkness to hope.
(00:44):
Hello, hello, everybody.
Welcome back to the Justin Timepodcast.
I am so excited to introduce toyou Diego Martinez.
He is a therapist, apsychologist, and one of my
really good friends who actuallyintroduced me to Dr.
Joe Dispenza.
(01:04):
Um, because of Diego's belief inneuroplasticity and in the work
that Dispenza does, it led medown that same path.
Um, so when I told you guys Iwas sitting on the beach and um
my friend Diego and Carson hadtold me, hey, you just need to
reprogram your brain.
Um he is here now and he'sjoining us live.
(01:26):
So welcome, Diego.
We're so happy to have you.
SPEAKER_01 (01:29):
Thank you for having me, Jessica.
I really appreciate it.
Um well, um I'm very excited.
So I'm very excited to talkabout this topic because, like
you were mentioning, um how thisstarts.
It sounds easy when you justsay, okay, just change your mind
or your mindset, but it is notso easy.
(01:51):
But once you are there, enjoyingthe process and see the result,
I think that pushes us to keepcontinuing with this.
SPEAKER_00 (01:59):
So yeah.
And and Diego saw me when I wasin that dark night of the soul
moment, you know, he he wasthere and he's so funny.
He's like running on the beach,you know, because he's such he's
in really good shape and alwaysdoing fitness.
And he's like, You just need toreprogram your brain, Yessica.
And I'm like, what the heck ishe talking about?
(02:19):
He's like, no, I am serious.
And I'm like, okay.
And so, like, here we are.
And, you know, I I literallyfeel like that was just a
godsend.
I do not know if I would be heretoday if Ewan Carson had not
introduced me to Dr.
Joe Dispens's work.
Like, it's an actual miraclethat I'm here today.
Um, because it gave me hope.
And then after doing the work umand seeing the results, I was
(02:43):
like, wow, everybody needs toknow about this.
And that's what led me to openthe nonprofit.
And I mean, you're you're also,you know, a testament to you're
also like um a teacher at theuniversity, the your professor.
I'm a professor at theuniversity as well.
Yeah.
So it's like between, let's see,I don't know, was it let's see,
(03:05):
eight years ago now.
I believe it's about eight yearsago.
So within eight years, likewe've really manifested our
personal reality.
And it it's so exciting to to bewhere we're at because Diego
actually and I we met in CostaRica.
So I'd always been on this likespiritual journey to try to find
the answers, like why.
(03:27):
I actually Googled our YouTubewhy do people kill themselves?
And the only video that came upthat made sense to me was Till
Swan.
SPEAKER_02 (03:37):
Okay, right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:39):
So I said, you know, I'm gonna go to Costa Rica and
I'm gonna go to Till Swan'sretreat and I'm gonna ask these
questions.
And that's where I met Diego andCarson.
SPEAKER_01 (03:51):
Right.
And and funny enough, Carson andI also we went to Costa Rica
because we love to readspiritual books or things
related to let's say yoga,meditation, or spirituality or
psychology in general.
And somehow, till resonated withus, we were also going through
(04:13):
difficult moments at that time.
So, and we were just searchingfor a different kind of help
because like you were alsotrying different ones, and
somehow it didn't match with youat that time.
We felt the same, and somehowthen we thought, okay, we might
go there.
And then we ended up in CostaRica.
We met you there.
(04:33):
We went through wonderfulexperience, I will say, after
all, a lot of learningexperience.
That was incredible too.
SPEAKER_00 (04:41):
Yeah, and I mean, remember, you had found out that
your dad passed away at thattime.
SPEAKER_01 (04:48):
Imagine, on top of that, going through difficult
moments, then when I was there,um I uh I mean my family just
called me and told me thatunfortunately my father passed
away.
I was in shock.
It was really hard already, andon top of that, even worse with
that.
SPEAKER_00 (05:06):
And I remember the night that night that your
father passed away was the nightthat my dad called me and said
that he didn't want to liveanymore.
And I did not know what to do.
And I sent him some Tilt Swanvideos because you know, suicide
education and preventioninformation wasn't really talked
(05:28):
about.
It's still really not talkedabout.
We're barely scratching thesurface in mental health
awareness.
And because there's such astigma, you know, especially
with older men they're meant tobe tough and this and that, you
know.
SPEAKER_01 (05:40):
Yeah.
And um this situation, we arenot prepared to deal with this
situation when we are maybe nottaken so seriously, or we might
be in shock, or like you said,nobody's teaching us because
it's like a taboo or something.
SPEAKER_00 (05:54):
Yeah, we I didn't know what to do.
I sent him a Till Swan video,and I know it was like
completely over its head.
But I wish I would have had thetraining now.
And I think part of being like asuicide loss survivor is like
kind of letting go of that guiltas well.
Because sometimes I would beatmyself up uh about it, but I'm
like, you know, he was theparent, I'm I was the child.
(06:14):
And it's it's so hard though,because we we we love everybody,
we want everybody to to make it,you know.
And I did I was still strugglingat that time with my own suicide
ideation, you know.
I was like trying to find a way.
And I think, you know, one ofthe things that we want to talk
about today is that sometimes ittakes a multitude of things to
(06:38):
get somebody to the point inwhich they can get help, like
true, true help, or or amultitude of coping mechanisms
or possibly medication from thedoctors or whatever it is to
finally get to a point whereyour mind can kind of calm down
a little bit out of survivalmode, enough to fully grasp the
(06:59):
idea of neuroplasticity.
And I think you had mentionedsomething about your mother that
you wanted to share as well.
SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
Um well, yes, I actually, well, for sure, if I'm
going to connect that topic withmy mother, for example, when
when my father just passed away,um, she couldn't handle the
situation very well.
So let's say that she had a lotof anxiety, she was depressed,
and her mood was changing.
(07:26):
Um we might had hallucinationsand she was going through
something difficult.
And somehow the only help thatit works for her after trying
different ones, it was when wefound the right medication for
her.
Because normally people have ahuge stigma or they relate
(07:46):
something negative to any kindof medication, and perhaps it
might be, but it depends on theexperience.
But me as a professional, andalso talking about my mother's
experience, I thought, and I wasjust speechless, how a huge
change was in her life wherefinally her brain, her the whole
system was stable.
(08:08):
Once she was stable, she wasready then in order to accept
other kinds of helps.
Before she wasn't ready, so themedication was it changed her
life.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:22):
So that just goes to show that you know it's not one
single thing that will work forsomebody that's struggling with
mental health or suicideideation.
Like for me, you know, I wentand I got on medication and I
did counseling and I did thisand I did that.
And like I was losing hopebecause a lot of those things
weren't working.
But if I really truly look backat the time, those things really
could have helped me um get tothe point in which I was sitting
(08:46):
on that beach with you andKarsten and you guys told me
about Dr.
Joe Dispenza, right?
So we just we just never know.
We wanna we never want to likediscount anything because what I
don't want people to think islike, oh my gosh, just in time
they just started aboutneuroplasticity and and
reprogramming the brain andthat's it.
No, I think that like that, youknow, seeing uh a therapist or
(09:08):
your doctor, um, psychiatristand figuring out what works
specifically for that person.
Yeah, not to this day, like, doI um take antidepressants?
No, I don't, but it took me awhile to get to that point.
Um so it's not that they're bad,it's just that my brain finally
got to a a a place where mybrain became its own
(09:31):
pharmaceutical company, youknow, and it produced the
correct hormones and yeah, andthen and with working out, and
just you know, after a certainamount of time of you know,
reprogramming the brain andchanging negative thought
patterns, um, then you startseeing the results uh also
within your body.
(09:52):
So I I don't want to like, youknow, exclude any kind of help
like that.
I just think that this issomething like in addition, like
people need to talk about likewhen I was in the clinics, like
nobody talked aboutreprogramming the brain
specifically, because it's likewe are running on a subconscious
uh program.
(10:12):
And if we don't change that,right?
Because you were talking aboutearlier, like like for for some
people, we were talking about ummen that are uh afraid to reach
out because they don't want tobe seen as weak.
And we said, okay, you know,what's one thing that they could
do?
And you said, I believe yousaid, just change one small
thing, just find one smallthing, and the point is to do
(10:35):
something different, right?
Can you elaborate a little biton that?
SPEAKER_01 (10:39):
Well, yes, for sure.
And when when when Karsten and Iwere we were so in love with Dr.
Joe Dispensa, because actuallywe also love the idea how he's
he's mixing um the holisticapproach, but also the
scientific one and usingneuroscience facts.
So, like this, actually, you canreally believe about this and
(11:03):
make the most also with theplacebo effect, which is
connected with the pharmacy thatwe have in our brain, creating
neurotransmitters and hormonesand are creating benefits in our
whole system.
And once we have all thesebenefits, we can be in an
equilibrium or homeostasis andthen be ready for new changes in
our life.
Because otherwise, if we don'tmake changes, we can be stuck
(11:28):
only in the negative things.
And how can how can we startcreating something new in our
life if we don't realize or ifwe are not so aware that
actually we are repeatingpatterns all the time, then
therefore we create the sameexperience.
We need to create newexperience.
SPEAKER_00 (11:48):
And you you have to because pain is is and memories
are in the past.
So you have to create yourfuture, don't keep recreating
your past.
And I think, you know, in acouple of weeks, we're gonna
bring uh I'm looking for atherapist.
Um, actually, I think I foundher, um, who works with veterans
and deals a lot with PTSD.
(12:10):
Because one of the things Icannot wait to ask her a
multitude of questions, one ofthe things that I dealt with,
because I actually was a secondperson to find my brother.
And, you know, to see somebodylike that you love, you know,
dead in front of you can be verytraumatizing.
And so I had PTSD of, you know,the same uh thoughts of running
(12:32):
up the stairs, finding him, yadayada yada.
I don't want to get graphic, butum, it was replaying in my mind
at night.
And so I was running onsubconsciously, my brain is just
running, and it was justrecreating from my past.
And so I was I no longerstruggle with that.
Um, but there were there wouldbe certain things for a long
(12:54):
time that would like trigger me.
SPEAKER_01 (12:56):
Um you said that the you said trigger, yeah.
I I I just thought about it.
I'm sorry to for interruptingyou.
SPEAKER_00 (13:06):
Go for it.
SPEAKER_01 (13:06):
I just thought about the trigger because sometimes
when we want to create newchanges and we feel a little bit
of trigger, especially anemotional one, we already run
away from this.
We don't want to feel this pain,or this is something new, or the
unknown, and therefore I preferjust what I know, and my brain
stays with the familiar.
That's what Dr.
Joe also teaches a lot.
(13:27):
The brain loves discipline.
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (13:30):
That is the perfect point, Diego.
I'm so glad you brought that up.
This is literal gold right here.
So when those triggers come up,right?
It's just like sitting inmeditation when your body is
like twitching and this andthat, and you're trying to
focus, but it's the same thing,and and and like the more healed
we become, uh, and the more wereprogram, the less triggers
(13:51):
that we're having to deal withbecause we're we're fighting
through them, and the brain islike, no, we're not doing that.
Um but yeah, so you brought upsuch a good point because I and
I think that I think the reasonwhy this is brought up right
now, and and intuitively, likewhat's just like flowing through
me right now is that when ifpeople do go and try this, what
what we don't want to happen islike that they tried it and then
(14:14):
it doesn't work for them becausethey get that trigger and then
they push the work away.
But but you can't do that, youhave to have discipline, you
have to push through it.
And I think the reason why we'rehere today is to talk about like
if people actually believed thatthis work actually works, then
(14:36):
they would do it.
So I think it's more aboutgetting people to believe that
neuroplastic neuroplasticityworks, right?
Because if you believe it works,then you're gonna push through
it and you're gonna do it.
And and I was listening to Dr.
Joe Dispenza yesterday morning,and he was talking about as a
perfect example, he was talkingabout how he was like back on
(14:56):
his ranch and he was riding hishorse, and the horse is like has
all these like different things,like, oh, there's a mare over
there, or oh, I think I'm gonnalike walk over here and it
wasn't following the programthat you know riding what he
wanted to ride because he hadn'tbeen doing he hadn't been
working with the horse for longenough, right?
So it's like something that youhave to like keep doing so we
(15:18):
can get rid of bad habits, so wecan get rid of bad thought
processes.
And I think that's what you weretalking about earlier, is like
just start with one small thingand just change, just focus on
one thing that you can changebecause if you keep doing the
same thing, we're gonna get thesame results, we're gonna have
the same thought processes,you're gonna have the same
experiences, which create thesame memories, and then it goes
(15:39):
in this loop and you're runningon this subconscious program,
and you and then you're you'rein survival mode and you never
get out.
And then what ends up happeningis your body can only run on
survival mode for so long.
And I think that is the pointthat I was at when I we were in
Mexico on the beach.
I was losing all hope because Iwas just trying every single
(16:00):
thing.
So that's why I'm so passionateabout this.
SPEAKER_01 (16:03):
And you know, um, connecting this, you said
something important, which isabout belief.
Start believing in somethingstrongly, not in the way that
you are just let's say, um, justI'm not sure if it's okay to say
lying to yourself or something.
It is more about beingoptimistic, create new hopes in
your life.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (16:24):
To kind of create the feeling, right?
SPEAKER_01 (16:27):
So, like exactly because also that because to
start creating new changes,first of all, like Dr.
Joe is teaching, the long storyshort is that well, you have
already patterns.
It is hard to break all patternsbecause the brain of the
familiar things, and especiallysometimes if it is negative, the
brain can be addicted tonegative things too.
(16:47):
So we need to start creatingneural pathways.
How creating new changes, but itis not easy, and like this
connecting with our emotions, wehave to also connect, not just
the action, we need to beconnected with that, and what's
the meaning of that for us, orwhat we want to create or
approach, just to increase moreour feelings and emotions with
(17:08):
this experience.
And if it doesn't work, we tryanother one and another one, or
keep trying, and that's thething.
Exactly, and keep trying inorder to see results, and it
doesn't matter if you don't seeit yet, but it's something
different.
SPEAKER_00 (17:22):
It's just like the gym, it's just like going to the
gym.
You're not gonna see the resultsthe next day, it's just like
planting a seed, it's not gonnagrow the next day.
And I think that like Yeah, hesays neurons that fire together
wire together.
So you have to do it for acertain amount of time for those
neur neurons to fire and wiretogether.
And then once you've gotten tothat point, and I think, Diego,
(17:45):
I think honestly, the morepeople talk about
neuroplasticity, the more theyunderstand it, the more their
lives are gonna change, becausethe more they're gonna believe
in it.
And I think that that is trulywhere we're at.
It's like if people reallybelieved in it, they would be
like, wow, because for me, I'mlike, this is a superpower,
right?
Like neuroplasticity.
SPEAKER_01 (18:06):
But that's the point, because also he teaches a
lot.
I mean, Dr.
Joe, right?
He teaches a lot how powerful isour brain, our thoughts, our
emotions, and like you saidbefore, all the pharmacy that we
have in our brain, it is true.
We are really strong.
SPEAKER_00 (18:22):
We we are powerful human beings, we are not just
aware, maybe how how powerfuland strong we can be, actually,
if we you know what I mean, youknow, wherever yes, and and when
you guys spoke that to me when Iwas very, very low and I was
just dark night of the soul.
(18:44):
When you spoke that to me, youyou called me a genius on the
beach.
And then after I started doingthis work, because in Dispensary
goes, turn on the person next toyou and say, It's nice to meet
you, I'm a genius, or somethinglike that.
SPEAKER_01 (18:57):
I I remember because you watch all the videos for
Carson and I.
It took days to watch the wholething, and you just finished the
next day, and you you were youyou're you you just didn't
remember that for you.
It was not just remembering, itwas also about explaining.
SPEAKER_00 (19:16):
It was death or life for me.
SPEAKER_01 (19:18):
Like I was clinging and hanging on to every single
word because we noticed thatwhen we were talking about it.
SPEAKER_00 (19:25):
Yeah, I mean, thank God, Diego.
Like, I mean, you're an angel tome, you know, truly.
SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
And I think somehow, I think somehow we all humans
are going through ups and downs.
Um at that time when I was andjust reading about Dr.
Joe, or before when we met inCosta Rica, I also was going
through difficult moments.
And when one problem is alreadysolved, a new one is coming.
(19:53):
So, but the thing is that themore we practice and the more we
learn, and especially when we wewe try to do it, and I just to
read it, to put it in practicetoo.
I think after this creatingresults and new changes and new
experience, when the nextchallenge is coming, somehow my
my organism or my body or mysoul, it is not repeating the
(20:15):
same process of paying the Urme, for example, and stay stuck.
Now I'm trying to check adifferent way to approach
something difficult.
Makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
Yeah, I've I've seen you grow so much.
I'm I'm so proud of like whowe've both become.
SPEAKER_01 (20:30):
I mean, we we've been we've it wasn't easy, but
it's so I'm so happy now withthe results, but for sure I
think it wasn't easy at all.
SPEAKER_00 (20:40):
Um, um, so after after um Diego and Carson told
me about Dr.
Joe Dispenza, um, they so kindlyinvited me to their place in
Germany.
And I needed to feel that love.
And they just took me in likefamily, gave me a bed to sleep
(21:00):
in and fed me and just loved onme and took me to the advanced
retreat um for that whole week.
We spent that whole weektogether, and that was a that
was a tough week.
I remember for you especiallytoo.
There was we were all justprocessing emotions and and
pushing through things.
But for me, that was like I hada major breakthrough, but we all
(21:22):
had our own things.
And I remember we created a mindmovie.
And I remember you showing meyour mind movie, and and now if
we look at our mind movies tothis day, we literally
manifested like 80% of italready.
And it's uh it's amazing.
Like I didn't know that I wouldfinally be able to be in a
position to help other people.
(21:42):
Like I didn't know that I couldtouch other people's lives with
in a way that I can today, youknow?
And I think that it's just it'sbeautiful work, and I I it's so
hard too, because like whenpeople are struggling, right?
And I don't know if you want toshare some of your personal
(22:03):
struggles that you've got to do.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (22:05):
Because yeah, because you just mentioned
something which just touched me.
It's about I've never thoughtI'm going to be here now, for
example, helping someone else.
And you know, before even TilSwan's treatment, um months ago
or years ago before that event,I was going through a lot of
(22:25):
difficult things where I wasn'tso happy at all to stay alive.
Let's say like this.
Um, I was so negative for years.
I'm not even talking aboutmonths for years, almost like
non-stop.
I was so in that circle, itwasn't like an addiction to
where I was just focusing on thenegative things.
(22:46):
Everything was so negative, andI also tried different things
where maybe let's say I wasthinking I just to stay here
anymore.
SPEAKER_00 (22:54):
Um like my tempted suicide.
SPEAKER_01 (22:57):
Uh yeah, many times I tried.
SPEAKER_00 (23:00):
Yeah.
Thank you for thank you forbeing here and thank you for
sharing that.
That's you know, um, there's notvery many people that actually,
and especially to be at thelevel in which you are today,
you know, because it's likelooking at you eight years ago
or maybe 15 years ago, and thenlooking at you now, the way that
(23:21):
the brain has changed, even inthe eight years that I've known
you too, it's it's night andday, and it gives hope to other
people, you know, and especiallyfor you being a man, like
talking about that really helpsgive other people the courage to
get the help that they need.
And you offer services at yourclinic.
(23:41):
So Diego has a clinic inParaguay called Spa de la Mente.
Did I say that correctly?
SPEAKER_01 (23:48):
Well, you know, just connecting with what what you
said about men in general, Ithink I understand what you try
to say when it is about thisbelief system where we're
supposed to be strong, we don'thave emotions, or if we need
help, we are not almost allowedto ask for some help, or we we
need to solve problems alone, orwhatever.
(24:09):
And actually that that can bevery dangerous.
And I was included thereactually, or especially
sometimes where the feedbackfrom others uh let's say that
they didn't support me at thattime because of all this police
system, so it wasn't easy, itwasn't easy.
Now connect oh, you want to saysomething?
SPEAKER_00 (24:31):
No, no, no, go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (24:32):
And now connecting with Padelamente.
Oh my god, Jessica, just I'mjust thinking about our mind
movie.
The clinic wasn't here.
Oh, I mean, the clinic wasn't inmy mind movie, but other things
that uh were there, it happened,and I live my dreams, and this
is one of others.
And I I'm just thinking, oh mygosh, I went through so many
(24:54):
changes, so so many difficultthings.
And thanks to all this learningand experience, including Dr.
Joe Dispensa, um now finally I'mable to just enjoy life, enjoy
my present moment.
SPEAKER_00 (25:06):
Yes, and I think that you know the the thing that
we have in common is that we'reso grateful.
And and Dr.
Joe says, gratitude is theultimate state of receivership,
you know?
Oh my god.
And we're so grateful to like behere and be alive and to be uh
it's a gift to be in thisposition for you to help others
in the way that you do.
And I think that what trulymakes somebody like really good
(25:29):
at their job or their craft orhelping other people, um,
especially in your industry, isthat you have lived experience,
Diego.
So not not every psychologistand therapist or psychiatrist
has lived experience, right?
So you're able to connect withyour patients on a deeper level
because you are actually thereonce.
(25:52):
And it it's easier to empathizewith people that are lost in the
darkness.
And and I think, you know,people ask me, why do you why do
you do this work?
Because isn't it difficult tolike bring up the loss of your
dad and your brother and thisand that?
And I said, Yeah.
I said, but you know whatthough?
I'm helping that little girlthat was me, that was lost once.
And like I know that there'samazing, beautiful people out
(26:14):
there, and we need their light.
The world needs their light.
And we life can be very toughsometimes, and mental health and
mental illness and suicideideation and whatnot, it can
it's very complex, you know.
It can be due to because there'slack of food, uh um the
environment, they could uh begoing through abuse, uh child
(26:36):
abuse.
Um there's so many reasons whypeople want to kill themselves.
And so, but there's there'speople that just are in this
pain and they don't know how toget out because they may not
have the resources, they may nothear these things, but if maybe
they just hear I can, you know,recreate my own personal reality
(26:57):
and I can keep believing thatone day, you know, things are
gonna get better and not losehope and finally get to a point
where they're out of a toxicabusive environment or whatever
it may be, um, they can startliving a beautiful life, you
know?
SPEAKER_01 (27:11):
Yeah, you know, difficult.
I think also asking for help, itmight be difficult sometimes
when people are uh some peopleare not giving you the feedback
that you are expecting, but thatdoesn't mean that you shouldn't
uh or you should stop trying.
In my case, it happened, butthen when when I found my best
friend who lives in New York,and he just gave me that
(27:34):
sparkling, that that spark thatI need in my life in order to
start again believing insomething.
SPEAKER_00 (27:42):
And then, I mean, thanks to him, I already the
just in time podcast becauseyour friend was just in time for
you.
SPEAKER_01 (27:51):
Well, you know, in a way, yes, it is like that.
SPEAKER_00 (27:55):
That is, I think we meet these people along the way
in our journey, and they'relittle angels, they're little
gifts from God, and and it keepsus going, just like you and
Carson that day.
You know, and that's why it's soimportant that we do this and we
we talk about this.
SPEAKER_01 (28:12):
And to to to to talk about that freely and openly,
with no restrictions in thesense that not being afraid of
any kind of judgments, forexample.
Um it's a stigma like you werementioning before.
SPEAKER_00 (28:28):
So, and you don't know I was labeled as the black
sheep, the crazy one.
SPEAKER_01 (28:34):
We need to.
So, and and it's it's it's thateasy, especially when we are in
that position where we don'thave a voice, or um people are
sick and tired of listening tous or whatever.
It's that easy, but that doesn'tmean that it isn't possible.
It's really hard.
(28:54):
But after tell me, tell me, doyou want to say something?
SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
No, you just said possible, and what came into my
mind was what happens when weget triggers, we talk ourselves
out of possibility.
When we get triggered or whensomething is hard for us and it
brings up difficult things, andwe just have to keep pushing
through, you know, and not giveup.
(29:20):
And it but you actually have todo the work, you know.
There was a um an example thatDr.
Joe gave when we were um at hisadvanced workshop, and he said a
lady came up to him and I thinkshe said, she said, Why aren't I
living in um Santa Fe, NewMexico?
(29:41):
And he was like, Well, thatperson doesn't live in Santa Fe,
New Mexico.
And she's like, What are youtalking about?
And he's like, Are you doing thework?
And she's like, Well, I've beentired, or this or that.
I don't don't quote me exactly.
And then goes, answer thequestion, are you doing the
work?
Well Nope.
Are you doing the work?
(30:02):
So, so here's the thing.
It's like if you want it badenough and and you don't want to
stay a victim to your pain andyou truly want a way out, right?
Because for me, the payoff waslike, I do not want to live here
on this earth if I'm constantlyhave to coping with life, like I
want a life where I feelpowerful, right?
Like you said, where you don'teven know your own strength,
(30:25):
your own power.
And when people are believing inyou that you can reprogram your
brain and create a newelectromagnetic field that is
sending out differentfrequencies.
And so your personal reality andyour environment, the people
that you attract in your life ischanging.
Yes.
(30:45):
And it's like but it's like youhave to be at the point where
you're like you really want itto change, though.
You know what I mean?
And you have to be willing to dothe work.
If you don't do the work, likefor me, every day before I got
up after I left Cancun, right?
I went back home in, I think itwas maybe three months before we
(31:08):
did we flew to the advancedworkshop.
During that three months, I tookthis work serious.
Like I did not let my feet hitthe ground until I told myself I
was gonna have a good day.
Like I I made a deal to myselfbecause I was like, if I'm gonna
do this, I'm gonna go all in andI'm gonna give this everything I
(31:29):
got.
And if this doesn't work, then Ican kill myself later.
That's what I was tellingmyself.
So this was my last ditcheffort.
And thank God that I didn't giveup, and thank God that I kept
pushing forward, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (31:44):
You know, when you were just talking about the
electromagnetic field, Iremember also something that we
learned with Dr.
Joe, but also, well, I alsolearned from other sources,
sources.
But Dr.
Joe is really good how heteaches this.
It's about that we we we wecreate our own reality, and
sometimes we are not aware howmuch impact we have in our
(32:05):
present and future.
It depends because we're runningon that subconscious mind,
exactly, and it depends on whatenergy and emotions we have,
somehow it's going to createsome influence in our present
moment, and we might createsomething good, something might
not be so good or or evenamazing, but it we have to do
(32:28):
the work, that's the point.
We have to put it out.
SPEAKER_00 (32:30):
What we're saying is um remember he had us do an
exercise, and he said, uh, youneed okay, so if you want to um
feel um freedom, right?
Um, you need to like close youreyes, do your meditation, and
actually experience like likefreedom.
SPEAKER_02 (32:51):
Um my gosh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:53):
He gave another example, like his daughter when
wanted to go shopping.
Well, she had to tune in andimagine how she would feel if
she got to go on the bestshopping spree ever.
And then you you you you comeback and you have this energy
and this feeling because thebrain doesn't know any
different, whether you're doingit or not.
And that's the same thing withPTSD, right?
(33:15):
When you're recreating thosethoughts in your brain, your
brain doesn't know thedifference between if it
actually happened or if it'sjust in your brain.
Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_01 (33:25):
It makes it makes it makes sense, and especially when
he tries to teach you that it isreally important for you to
start already tasting thatflavor of the experience that
you what your new life feelslike.
Exactly, because your braindoesn't that doesn't know
exactly what is real orimagination, because at the end
of the day, the brain iscreating all the
(33:47):
neurotransmitters that'ssupposed to create with that
experience.
So, therefore, prepare the wholeorganism for that, because when
you are aligned with that,somehow you will go and approach
that direction.
So, and that that is connectedwith what you are feeling, what
what what what thoughts youhave, if you are breaking or no
(34:09):
patterns, if you are aware thatbecause you are running in
circles with all patterns andjust running automatically uh or
in a survival mode, of courseyou are not going to you of
course you are going to be stuckthere, unfortunately.
So that's why it's veryimportant to start tasting the
flavor of what you want toexperience, something good,
something different.
SPEAKER_00 (34:30):
And then your body can start craving it and getting
used to that.
SPEAKER_01 (34:33):
And you get ready for that.
You you your focus also littleby little is changing, and
somehow you pay more attentionto details where maybe you you
just didn't pay attention tosomething, and that's why you
have some different experience,for example.
Makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (34:49):
Absolutely.
It's just like, and then you'reand then it becomes less effort,
right?
So, like for instance, when I'mbrushing my teeth, I don't have
to think about how to brush myteeth because I already know how
to do it.
So it's a subconscious program.
I'm gonna keep that one, right?
Because I don't want to have tothink about how to brush my
teeth.
I learned that for other thoughtprocesses or um difficulties in
(35:16):
our life, bringing intoawareness what are the five
thoughts that we're thinkingthat are just killing us, our
energy on a daily basis, andchange those thoughts
intentionally.
Just pick one.
I challenge my listeners today,like pick one thought that like
quiet your mind and listen towhat you're hearing, or when you
(35:37):
look in the mirror and you seeyourself, what you what the
first negative thing that yousay about yourself, change it
and make it positive, and thencontinue to do that for the next
30, 60, 90 days and see how yourenergy and your attitude changes
with that perspective.
And it's amazing how how how howwe change, you know.
(35:59):
If these they say your thoughtscan make you sick, right?
SPEAKER_01 (36:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (36:04):
If your thoughts can make you sick, then your
thoughts can make you well.
SPEAKER_01 (36:08):
For sure, it is like that.
Sometimes we just want quickresults, and that's that
sometimes can be a little bitdisappointing, but we need to
keep continuing, keep doing,doing the work.
SPEAKER_00 (36:24):
Yeah, and again, like if somebody is in a crisis,
please don't tell them toreprogram their brain in that
moment.
You know, call 988 or call 911,um, you know, remove lethal
means, make sure you're safe,make sure the other person's
safe.
Um, don't don't try to have thisconversation at that time.
I just I would just want to bevery clear about that.
(36:46):
This isn't the time to talk talkabout neuroplasticity.
This this comes later.
Um, if someone is in immediatedanger, please, please, please
call or text 988.
And uh since Diego is bilingual,uh, you did you want to um say
that to our words?
SPEAKER_01 (37:03):
Yeah, I would say in Spanish, but can you remind me
the numbers?
SPEAKER_00 (37:06):
The word so if somebody is struggling or in a
crisis, they can call 988, call,or text.
SPEAKER_01 (37:16):
Right.
Entonces, miren, if all thesepeople are atraves for moments
difficiling that always stayrelation with, for example,
inclusive suicidio, it's moreimportant in prime not trying to
invalidar loss or decided toreprogram.
For this, there exist differenttypes of audience, and llamar al
(37:39):
call in the number again.
SPEAKER_00 (37:41):
988.
SPEAKER_01 (37:43):
Llamar al 988 for those cases specific of
emergency.
SPEAKER_00 (37:49):
Perfect.
SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
You understood what I mean?
How is your Spanish?
You need to do the work alsowith your Spanish, eh?
SPEAKER_00 (37:55):
Poquito español.
SPEAKER_01 (38:02):
Uh, you know, Jettika, something that you were
saying, and I I will not gothrough that so much because now
we are here for another topic,but just because you mentioned,
and I think to you we cannotbring just this answer to
anybody to start saying, um,start changing your mindset
because sometimes people mightnot feel validate for that
(38:25):
moment.
So every person and everyexperience is different.
That's why you were mentioningthe protocol of this and where
they should call.
Um, so it's really importantjust to be aware that every
situation is different and alsonot to invalidate people when
they feel fragile, for example,because you know, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (38:46):
It's it you don't want to try to like almost like
I don't know, cheer them up orthis or that.
It's like it's very hard andit's very complex, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (38:57):
Um I I can just talk through my own experience, and
it is like this when when I wasgoing through difficult moments,
and people somehow it is notthat maybe they just don't take
you so seriously.
You were mentioning alsosomething about how we are now
educated with these emotions andthese situations, and we cope
this defense mechanism in orderto really deal and go through
(39:18):
the emotions.
We just try to just fix quicklyor you know.
SPEAKER_00 (39:23):
Yeah, yeah.
We and we don't want to do that.
We don't want to feel like theper like we need to fix the
person, right?
That almost makes them feelworse, I think.
Um, so I'm I'm glad that youbrought that up.
And the last episode we had umJacqueline, she was the area
director, is the area directorfor AFSP, and she talked a lot
about that too.
It's just like making sure, youknow, that you're listening and
(39:45):
being supportive, asking them,hey, are you struggling with
thoughts of suicide?
Do you have a plan?
And just getting the person incontact with somebody that can
help them, you know, justsafety, safety first.
Because the biggest thing whenit comes to suicide education um
or prevention uh when you aredealing with somebody that is in
(40:06):
a crisis is time.
Because the brain will just likefreak out for a certain amount
of time.
And the longer that time goesby, the less likely uh they are,
you know, to do something thatthey would later regret.
So but um what else were wegonna?
(40:30):
We were gonna tap intosomething.
SPEAKER_01 (40:31):
I just want I just want to share something how Dr.
Joe has a huge impact also nowwith this clinic here in
Paraguay.
So I went through university andI learned all the classic tools
and they are wonderful and ithelps a lot.
And I'm using everything and Ilove it.
But at the same time, somethings that in university, um,
(40:56):
let's say the program is notteaching you, it's about how
just to approach people besidesthe scientific facts, which are
amazing, also combined with theholistic one, for example, and
that's what I had with Dr.
Joe.
And for example, in my clinic,my clinic looked like this
Balinese style spiritualretreat.
(41:18):
Why?
It has a purpose.
My purpose is to createsomething different, something
new.
And when people come here, theyjust don't think about the
symptoms and signs and theproblem.
Besides that, they feel herevery welcome, but also they are
focusing on other things andthey are present with what is
(41:38):
this.
It makes sense.
So we don't have the nociboeffect so much in our brain
where we already start creatingeven more the symptoms and
signs.
So here we work with all thewonderful tools, but also I'm
creating an atmosphere wheresomehow we can just be um I
(41:58):
think the environment in someway is so important, and I think
what you're doing is reallysmart.
SPEAKER_00 (42:03):
And I like also how you're um adding in all the
anti-aging benefits and likereally being like all inclusive,
you know.
I think it's I think it's reallygreat work what you're doing.
Um but I think this concludesour episode.
Is there anything else that youwould like to let our followers
know, Diego?
SPEAKER_01 (42:22):
Well, wait a minute, Jessica.
There are so much things I'mjust kidding.
No, but actually, I mean, let Imean it happened so many things.
We were after Cancun, we were inDr.
Joe Dispensa in Berlin, Germany.
And then after that, um, well, Idid other retreats too.
Do you remember what otherretreats you did?
SPEAKER_00 (42:43):
Or um goodness.
I did like a workshop in Sedona.
SPEAKER_02 (42:49):
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (42:51):
Yeah, and I did I did a couple of other ones, but
nothing was like Dispenza.
Like, oh, I did I did theadvanced follow-up, actually.
Oh, you did, okay.
I did, I did the advancedfollow-up.
Um and I actually did atestimony for Dr.
Joe Dispenza, and it's reallyhard to watch.
When I go back and I look atthat video, you can still see my
(43:15):
body is in survival mode.
And I think I was really, reallynervous to do it, but it's kind
of crazy because at that time Iactually said in in the
interview that I did withDispenza, I said I was gonna
open up a nonprofit and call itjust in time to save a life
before it was ever opened, yearsbefore.
And I actually did it and it'samazing, and it's helping
(43:38):
people, and but it is sad tolook at the video because I can
see it's like it takes a whilefor the body to catch up with
the brain.
It's like my brain knew it wasgetting out of survival mode,
but because it was in my bodywas still kind of in it, it was
(43:58):
yeah, I still my heart breakswhen I when I see that, you
know, and it reminds me of howfar that I've come.
But to all my followers outthere, all of our listeners,
just never give up and don'tlose hope and keep trying and
keep moving forward because lifeis better with you in it.
And um, you know, suicidecreates a ripple-like effect,
(44:21):
and it really, really hurts thepeople that um that are left
behind.
And I think a lot of peopledon't talk about that because
they feel guilty to talk aboutit in a way.
But I have just met so manysuicide survivors that are still
devastated.
And one of the episodes thatwe're gonna get into later um on
(44:42):
this journey for the Justin Timepodcast is diving deep into
survivor loss.
Um people who have lost lovedones to suicide and the effects
that it has on them and the helpthat they need to get.
Um, because for every onesuicide, there's 25 other
attempts.
That is insane to me.
(45:04):
So um thank you guys so much forlistening.
Diego, thank you so much forbeing here.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (45:10):
Thank you for inviting me.
So I hope I can just come backagain and then we can keep
continuing other topics relatedto it.
SPEAKER_02 (45:17):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (45:17):
I'm having so much fun, but uh, in the sense that
for me, this is a serious topic,but it's so amazing to talk to
someone who I mean, somehow weare connected in many ways.
Yes, and now to see ourselvesliving the life that we have is
just um yes, that's what peopleneed.
SPEAKER_00 (45:38):
It's like you have two people that attempted
suicide multiple times that arehere today telling you that they
no longer struggle with suicideideation because they've
reprogrammed their brain andthey found a way out.
And that's the program thatJustin Time wants to create.
It's called From Darkness toHope.
And I don't know why it's notcreated yet, but it's going to
be.
So maybe we can get maybe we canget the spending to come on and
(46:00):
help create it with us.
If you're struggling, rememberhow you think is how you feel.
If your feelings feel heavy,start by shifting the thought.
You're not stuck.
Your brain can change, so canyour story.
I'm Jessica G.
This is the Justin Time podcast,and I'll see you next time.
Until then, keep going.
Never give up.
And remember, the world isbetter with you in it, whether
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you believe it or not.
To help reach others, pleaseshare this with your friends,
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Hi, I'm Jess G, and this is the Justin Time podcast.
If you're struggling today, Iwant you to know this podcast is
here for you, but it's not asubstitute for professional
health.
If you're in a crisis or feelunsafe, please call or text 988
or dial in 911 for immediatesupport.
There are people out there whowill listen and can help.
On this show, I'll be sharingpersonal experiences, mind such
(00:22):
just, talking with key experts,and sharing real tools that help
me go from barely surviving tothriving.
This is not about quick fixes orone size fits all advice.
It's raw, it's honest, it's whatworked for me and what I believe
can help others too.
Let's walk together fromdarkness to hope.
(00:44):
Hello, hello, everybody.
Welcome back to the Justin Timepodcast.
I am so excited to introduce toyou Diego Martinez.
He is a therapist, apsychologist, and one of my
really good friends who actuallyintroduced me to Dr.
Joe Dispenza.
(01:04):
Um, because of Diego's belief inneuroplasticity and in the work
that Dispenza does, it led medown that same path.
Um, so when I told you guys Iwas sitting on the beach and um
my friend Diego and Carson hadtold me, hey, you just need to
reprogram your brain.
Um he is here now and he'sjoining us live.
(01:26):
So welcome, Diego.
We're so happy to have you.
SPEAKER_01 (01:29):
Thank you for having me, Jessica.
I really appreciate it.
Um well, um I'm very excited.
So I'm very excited to talkabout this topic because, like
you were mentioning, um how thisstarts.
It sounds easy when you justsay, okay, just change your mind
or your mindset, but it is notso easy.
(01:51):
But once you are there, enjoyingthe process and see the result,
I think that pushes us to keepcontinuing with this.
SPEAKER_00 (01:59):
So yeah.
And and Diego saw me when I wasin that dark night of the soul
moment, you know, he he wasthere and he's so funny.
He's like running on the beach,you know, because he's such he's
in really good shape and alwaysdoing fitness.
And he's like, You just need toreprogram your brain, Yessica.
And I'm like, what the heck ishe talking about?
(02:19):
He's like, no, I am serious.
And I'm like, okay.
And so, like, here we are.
And, you know, I I literallyfeel like that was just a
godsend.
I do not know if I would be heretoday if Ewan Carson had not
introduced me to Dr.
Joe Dispens's work.
Like, it's an actual miraclethat I'm here today.
Um, because it gave me hope.
And then after doing the work umand seeing the results, I was
(02:43):
like, wow, everybody needs toknow about this.
And that's what led me to openthe nonprofit.
And I mean, you're you're also,you know, a testament to you're
also like um a teacher at theuniversity, the your professor.
I'm a professor at theuniversity as well.
Yeah.
So it's like between, let's see,I don't know, was it let's see,
(03:05):
eight years ago now.
I believe it's about eight yearsago.
So within eight years, likewe've really manifested our
personal reality.
And it it's so exciting to to bewhere we're at because Diego
actually and I we met in CostaRica.
So I'd always been on this likespiritual journey to try to find
the answers, like why.
(03:27):
I actually Googled our YouTubewhy do people kill themselves?
And the only video that came upthat made sense to me was Till
Swan.
SPEAKER_02 (03:37):
Okay, right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:39):
So I said, you know, I'm gonna go to Costa Rica and
I'm gonna go to Till Swan'sretreat and I'm gonna ask these
questions.
And that's where I met Diego andCarson.
SPEAKER_01 (03:51):
Right.
And and funny enough, Carson andI also we went to Costa Rica
because we love to readspiritual books or things
related to let's say yoga,meditation, or spirituality or
psychology in general.
And somehow, till resonated withus, we were also going through
(04:13):
difficult moments at that time.
So, and we were just searchingfor a different kind of help
because like you were alsotrying different ones, and
somehow it didn't match with youat that time.
We felt the same, and somehowthen we thought, okay, we might
go there.
And then we ended up in CostaRica.
We met you there.
(04:33):
We went through wonderfulexperience, I will say, after
all, a lot of learningexperience.
That was incredible too.
SPEAKER_00 (04:41):
Yeah, and I mean, remember, you had found out that
your dad passed away at thattime.
SPEAKER_01 (04:48):
Imagine, on top of that, going through difficult
moments, then when I was there,um I uh I mean my family just
called me and told me thatunfortunately my father passed
away.
I was in shock.
It was really hard already, andon top of that, even worse with
that.
SPEAKER_00 (05:06):
And I remember the night that night that your
father passed away was the nightthat my dad called me and said
that he didn't want to liveanymore.
And I did not know what to do.
And I sent him some Tilt Swanvideos because you know, suicide
education and preventioninformation wasn't really talked
(05:28):
about.
It's still really not talkedabout.
We're barely scratching thesurface in mental health
awareness.
And because there's such astigma, you know, especially
with older men they're meant tobe tough and this and that, you
know.
SPEAKER_01 (05:40):
Yeah.
And um this situation, we arenot prepared to deal with this
situation when we are maybe nottaken so seriously, or we might
be in shock, or like you said,nobody's teaching us because
it's like a taboo or something.
SPEAKER_00 (05:54):
Yeah, we I didn't know what to do.
I sent him a Till Swan video,and I know it was like
completely over its head.
But I wish I would have had thetraining now.
And I think part of being like asuicide loss survivor is like
kind of letting go of that guiltas well.
Because sometimes I would beatmyself up uh about it, but I'm
like, you know, he was theparent, I'm I was the child.
(06:14):
And it's it's so hard though,because we we we love everybody,
we want everybody to to make it,you know.
And I did I was still strugglingat that time with my own suicide
ideation, you know.
I was like trying to find a way.
And I think, you know, one ofthe things that we want to talk
about today is that sometimes ittakes a multitude of things to
(06:38):
get somebody to the point inwhich they can get help, like
true, true help, or or amultitude of coping mechanisms
or possibly medication from thedoctors or whatever it is to
finally get to a point whereyour mind can kind of calm down
a little bit out of survivalmode, enough to fully grasp the
(06:59):
idea of neuroplasticity.
And I think you had mentionedsomething about your mother that
you wanted to share as well.
SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
Um well, yes, I actually, well, for sure, if I'm
going to connect that topic withmy mother, for example, when
when my father just passed away,um, she couldn't handle the
situation very well.
So let's say that she had a lotof anxiety, she was depressed,
and her mood was changing.
(07:26):
Um we might had hallucinationsand she was going through
something difficult.
And somehow the only help thatit works for her after trying
different ones, it was when wefound the right medication for
her.
Because normally people have ahuge stigma or they relate
(07:46):
something negative to any kindof medication, and perhaps it
might be, but it depends on theexperience.
But me as a professional, andalso talking about my mother's
experience, I thought, and I wasjust speechless, how a huge
change was in her life wherefinally her brain, her the whole
system was stable.
(08:08):
Once she was stable, she wasready then in order to accept
other kinds of helps.
Before she wasn't ready, so themedication was it changed her
life.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:22):
So that just goes to show that you know it's not one
single thing that will work forsomebody that's struggling with
mental health or suicideideation.
Like for me, you know, I wentand I got on medication and I
did counseling and I did thisand I did that.
And like I was losing hopebecause a lot of those things
weren't working.
But if I really truly look backat the time, those things really
could have helped me um get tothe point in which I was sitting
(08:46):
on that beach with you andKarsten and you guys told me
about Dr.
Joe Dispenza, right?
So we just we just never know.
We wanna we never want to likediscount anything because what I
don't want people to think islike, oh my gosh, just in time
they just started aboutneuroplasticity and and
reprogramming the brain andthat's it.
No, I think that like that, youknow, seeing uh a therapist or
(09:08):
your doctor, um, psychiatristand figuring out what works
specifically for that person.
Yeah, not to this day, like, doI um take antidepressants?
No, I don't, but it took me awhile to get to that point.
Um so it's not that they're bad,it's just that my brain finally
got to a a a place where mybrain became its own
(09:31):
pharmaceutical company, youknow, and it produced the
correct hormones and yeah, andthen and with working out, and
just you know, after a certainamount of time of you know,
reprogramming the brain andchanging negative thought
patterns, um, then you startseeing the results uh also
within your body.
(09:52):
So I I don't want to like, youknow, exclude any kind of help
like that.
I just think that this issomething like in addition, like
people need to talk about likewhen I was in the clinics, like
nobody talked aboutreprogramming the brain
specifically, because it's likewe are running on a subconscious
uh program.
(10:12):
And if we don't change that,right?
Because you were talking aboutearlier, like like for for some
people, we were talking about ummen that are uh afraid to reach
out because they don't want tobe seen as weak.
And we said, okay, you know,what's one thing that they could
do?
And you said, I believe yousaid, just change one small
thing, just find one smallthing, and the point is to do
(10:35):
something different, right?
Can you elaborate a little biton that?
SPEAKER_01 (10:39):
Well, yes, for sure.
And when when when Karsten and Iwere we were so in love with Dr.
Joe Dispensa, because actuallywe also love the idea how he's
he's mixing um the holisticapproach, but also the
scientific one and usingneuroscience facts.
So, like this, actually, you canreally believe about this and
(11:03):
make the most also with theplacebo effect, which is
connected with the pharmacy thatwe have in our brain, creating
neurotransmitters and hormonesand are creating benefits in our
whole system.
And once we have all thesebenefits, we can be in an
equilibrium or homeostasis andthen be ready for new changes in
our life.
Because otherwise, if we don'tmake changes, we can be stuck
(11:28):
only in the negative things.
And how can how can we startcreating something new in our
life if we don't realize or ifwe are not so aware that
actually we are repeatingpatterns all the time, then
therefore we create the sameexperience.
We need to create newexperience.
SPEAKER_00 (11:48):
And you you have to because pain is is and memories
are in the past.
So you have to create yourfuture, don't keep recreating
your past.
And I think, you know, in acouple of weeks, we're gonna
bring uh I'm looking for atherapist.
Um, actually, I think I foundher, um, who works with veterans
and deals a lot with PTSD.
(12:10):
Because one of the things Icannot wait to ask her a
multitude of questions, one ofthe things that I dealt with,
because I actually was a secondperson to find my brother.
And, you know, to see somebodylike that you love, you know,
dead in front of you can be verytraumatizing.
And so I had PTSD of, you know,the same uh thoughts of running
(12:32):
up the stairs, finding him, yadayada yada.
I don't want to get graphic, butum, it was replaying in my mind
at night.
And so I was running onsubconsciously, my brain is just
running, and it was justrecreating from my past.
And so I was I no longerstruggle with that.
Um, but there were there wouldbe certain things for a long
(12:54):
time that would like trigger me.
SPEAKER_01 (12:56):
Um you said that the you said trigger, yeah.
I I I just thought about it.
I'm sorry to for interruptingyou.
SPEAKER_00 (13:06):
Go for it.
SPEAKER_01 (13:06):
I just thought about the trigger because sometimes
when we want to create newchanges and we feel a little bit
of trigger, especially anemotional one, we already run
away from this.
We don't want to feel this pain,or this is something new, or the
unknown, and therefore I preferjust what I know, and my brain
stays with the familiar.
That's what Dr.
Joe also teaches a lot.
(13:27):
The brain loves discipline.
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (13:30):
That is the perfect point, Diego.
I'm so glad you brought that up.
This is literal gold right here.
So when those triggers come up,right?
It's just like sitting inmeditation when your body is
like twitching and this andthat, and you're trying to
focus, but it's the same thing,and and and like the more healed
we become, uh, and the more wereprogram, the less triggers
(13:51):
that we're having to deal withbecause we're we're fighting
through them, and the brain islike, no, we're not doing that.
Um but yeah, so you brought upsuch a good point because I and
I think that I think the reasonwhy this is brought up right
now, and and intuitively, likewhat's just like flowing through
me right now is that when ifpeople do go and try this, what
what we don't want to happen islike that they tried it and then
(14:14):
it doesn't work for them becausethey get that trigger and then
they push the work away.
But but you can't do that, youhave to have discipline, you
have to push through it.
And I think the reason why we'rehere today is to talk about like
if people actually believed thatthis work actually works, then
(14:36):
they would do it.
So I think it's more aboutgetting people to believe that
neuroplastic neuroplasticityworks, right?
Because if you believe it works,then you're gonna push through
it and you're gonna do it.
And and I was listening to Dr.
Joe Dispenza yesterday morning,and he was talking about as a
perfect example, he was talkingabout how he was like back on
(14:56):
his ranch and he was riding hishorse, and the horse is like has
all these like different things,like, oh, there's a mare over
there, or oh, I think I'm gonnalike walk over here and it
wasn't following the programthat you know riding what he
wanted to ride because he hadn'tbeen doing he hadn't been
working with the horse for longenough, right?
So it's like something that youhave to like keep doing so we
(15:18):
can get rid of bad habits, so wecan get rid of bad thought
processes.
And I think that's what you weretalking about earlier, is like
just start with one small thingand just change, just focus on
one thing that you can changebecause if you keep doing the
same thing, we're gonna get thesame results, we're gonna have
the same thought processes,you're gonna have the same
experiences, which create thesame memories, and then it goes
(15:39):
in this loop and you're runningon this subconscious program,
and you and then you're you'rein survival mode and you never
get out.
And then what ends up happeningis your body can only run on
survival mode for so long.
And I think that is the pointthat I was at when I we were in
Mexico on the beach.
I was losing all hope because Iwas just trying every single
(16:00):
thing.
So that's why I'm so passionateabout this.
SPEAKER_01 (16:03):
And you know, um, connecting this, you said
something important, which isabout belief.
Start believing in somethingstrongly, not in the way that
you are just let's say, um, justI'm not sure if it's okay to say
lying to yourself or something.
It is more about beingoptimistic, create new hopes in
your life.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (16:24):
To kind of create the feeling, right?
SPEAKER_01 (16:27):
So, like exactly because also that because to
start creating new changes,first of all, like Dr.
Joe is teaching, the long storyshort is that well, you have
already patterns.
It is hard to break all patternsbecause the brain of the
familiar things, and especiallysometimes if it is negative, the
brain can be addicted tonegative things too.
(16:47):
So we need to start creatingneural pathways.
How creating new changes, but itis not easy, and like this
connecting with our emotions, wehave to also connect, not just
the action, we need to beconnected with that, and what's
the meaning of that for us, orwhat we want to create or
approach, just to increase moreour feelings and emotions with
(17:08):
this experience.
And if it doesn't work, we tryanother one and another one, or
keep trying, and that's thething.
Exactly, and keep trying inorder to see results, and it
doesn't matter if you don't seeit yet, but it's something
different.
SPEAKER_00 (17:22):
It's just like the gym, it's just like going to the
gym.
You're not gonna see the resultsthe next day, it's just like
planting a seed, it's not gonnagrow the next day.
And I think that like Yeah, hesays neurons that fire together
wire together.
So you have to do it for acertain amount of time for those
neur neurons to fire and wiretogether.
And then once you've gotten tothat point, and I think, Diego,
(17:45):
I think honestly, the morepeople talk about
neuroplasticity, the more theyunderstand it, the more their
lives are gonna change, becausethe more they're gonna believe
in it.
And I think that that is trulywhere we're at.
It's like if people reallybelieved in it, they would be
like, wow, because for me, I'mlike, this is a superpower,
right?
Like neuroplasticity.
SPEAKER_01 (18:06):
But that's the point, because also he teaches a
lot.
I mean, Dr.
Joe, right?
He teaches a lot how powerful isour brain, our thoughts, our
emotions, and like you saidbefore, all the pharmacy that we
have in our brain, it is true.
We are really strong.
SPEAKER_00 (18:22):
We we are powerful human beings, we are not just
aware, maybe how how powerfuland strong we can be, actually,
if we you know what I mean, youknow, wherever yes, and and when
you guys spoke that to me when Iwas very, very low and I was
just dark night of the soul.
(18:44):
When you spoke that to me, youyou called me a genius on the
beach.
And then after I started doingthis work, because in Dispensary
goes, turn on the person next toyou and say, It's nice to meet
you, I'm a genius, or somethinglike that.
SPEAKER_01 (18:57):
I I remember because you watch all the videos for
Carson and I.
It took days to watch the wholething, and you just finished the
next day, and you you were youyou're you you just didn't
remember that for you.
It was not just remembering, itwas also about explaining.
SPEAKER_00 (19:16):
It was death or life for me.
SPEAKER_01 (19:18):
Like I was clinging and hanging on to every single
word because we noticed thatwhen we were talking about it.
SPEAKER_00 (19:25):
Yeah, I mean, thank God, Diego.
Like, I mean, you're an angel tome, you know, truly.
SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
And I think somehow, I think somehow we all humans
are going through ups and downs.
Um at that time when I was andjust reading about Dr.
Joe, or before when we met inCosta Rica, I also was going
through difficult moments.
And when one problem is alreadysolved, a new one is coming.
(19:53):
So, but the thing is that themore we practice and the more we
learn, and especially when we wewe try to do it, and I just to
read it, to put it in practicetoo.
I think after this creatingresults and new changes and new
experience, when the nextchallenge is coming, somehow my
my organism or my body or mysoul, it is not repeating the
(20:15):
same process of paying the Urme, for example, and stay stuck.
Now I'm trying to check adifferent way to approach
something difficult.
Makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
Yeah, I've I've seen you grow so much.
I'm I'm so proud of like whowe've both become.
SPEAKER_01 (20:30):
I mean, we we've been we've it wasn't easy, but
it's so I'm so happy now withthe results, but for sure I
think it wasn't easy at all.
SPEAKER_00 (20:40):
Um, um, so after after um Diego and Carson told
me about Dr.
Joe Dispenza, um, they so kindlyinvited me to their place in
Germany.
And I needed to feel that love.
And they just took me in likefamily, gave me a bed to sleep
(21:00):
in and fed me and just loved onme and took me to the advanced
retreat um for that whole week.
We spent that whole weektogether, and that was a that
was a tough week.
I remember for you especiallytoo.
There was we were all justprocessing emotions and and
pushing through things.
But for me, that was like I hada major breakthrough, but we all
(21:22):
had our own things.
And I remember we created a mindmovie.
And I remember you showing meyour mind movie, and and now if
we look at our mind movies tothis day, we literally
manifested like 80% of italready.
And it's uh it's amazing.
Like I didn't know that I wouldfinally be able to be in a
position to help other people.
(21:42):
Like I didn't know that I couldtouch other people's lives with
in a way that I can today, youknow?
And I think that it's just it'sbeautiful work, and I I it's so
hard too, because like whenpeople are struggling, right?
And I don't know if you want toshare some of your personal
(22:03):
struggles that you've got to do.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (22:05):
Because yeah, because you just mentioned
something which just touched me.
It's about I've never thoughtI'm going to be here now, for
example, helping someone else.
And you know, before even TilSwan's treatment, um months ago
or years ago before that event,I was going through a lot of
(22:25):
difficult things where I wasn'tso happy at all to stay alive.
Let's say like this.
Um, I was so negative for years.
I'm not even talking aboutmonths for years, almost like
non-stop.
I was so in that circle, itwasn't like an addiction to
where I was just focusing on thenegative things.
(22:46):
Everything was so negative, andI also tried different things
where maybe let's say I wasthinking I just to stay here
anymore.
SPEAKER_00 (22:54):
Um like my tempted suicide.
SPEAKER_01 (22:57):
Uh yeah, many times I tried.
SPEAKER_00 (23:00):
Yeah.
Thank you for thank you forbeing here and thank you for
sharing that.
That's you know, um, there's notvery many people that actually,
and especially to be at thelevel in which you are today,
you know, because it's likelooking at you eight years ago
or maybe 15 years ago, and thenlooking at you now, the way that
(23:21):
the brain has changed, even inthe eight years that I've known
you too, it's it's night andday, and it gives hope to other
people, you know, and especiallyfor you being a man, like
talking about that really helpsgive other people the courage to
get the help that they need.
And you offer services at yourclinic.
(23:41):
So Diego has a clinic inParaguay called Spa de la Mente.
Did I say that correctly?
SPEAKER_01 (23:48):
Well, you know, just connecting with what what you
said about men in general, Ithink I understand what you try
to say when it is about thisbelief system where we're
supposed to be strong, we don'thave emotions, or if we need
help, we are not almost allowedto ask for some help, or we we
need to solve problems alone, orwhatever.
(24:09):
And actually that that can bevery dangerous.
And I was included thereactually, or especially
sometimes where the feedbackfrom others uh let's say that
they didn't support me at thattime because of all this police
system, so it wasn't easy, itwasn't easy.
Now connect oh, you want to saysomething?
SPEAKER_00 (24:31):
No, no, no, go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (24:32):
And now connecting with Padelamente.
Oh my god, Jessica, just I'mjust thinking about our mind
movie.
The clinic wasn't here.
Oh, I mean, the clinic wasn't inmy mind movie, but other things
that uh were there, it happened,and I live my dreams, and this
is one of others.
And I I'm just thinking, oh mygosh, I went through so many
(24:54):
changes, so so many difficultthings.
And thanks to all this learningand experience, including Dr.
Joe Dispensa, um now finally I'mable to just enjoy life, enjoy
my present moment.
SPEAKER_00 (25:06):
Yes, and I think that you know the the thing that
we have in common is that we'reso grateful.
And and Dr.
Joe says, gratitude is theultimate state of receivership,
you know?
Oh my god.
And we're so grateful to like behere and be alive and to be uh
it's a gift to be in thisposition for you to help others
in the way that you do.
And I think that what trulymakes somebody like really good
(25:29):
at their job or their craft orhelping other people, um,
especially in your industry, isthat you have lived experience,
Diego.
So not not every psychologistand therapist or psychiatrist
has lived experience, right?
So you're able to connect withyour patients on a deeper level
because you are actually thereonce.
(25:52):
And it it's easier to empathizewith people that are lost in the
darkness.
And and I think, you know,people ask me, why do you why do
you do this work?
Because isn't it difficult tolike bring up the loss of your
dad and your brother and thisand that?
And I said, Yeah.
I said, but you know whatthough?
I'm helping that little girlthat was me, that was lost once.
And like I know that there'samazing, beautiful people out
(26:14):
there, and we need their light.
The world needs their light.
And we life can be very toughsometimes, and mental health and
mental illness and suicideideation and whatnot, it can
it's very complex, you know.
It can be due to because there'slack of food, uh um the
environment, they could uh begoing through abuse, uh child
(26:36):
abuse.
Um there's so many reasons whypeople want to kill themselves.
And so, but there's there'speople that just are in this
pain and they don't know how toget out because they may not
have the resources, they may nothear these things, but if maybe
they just hear I can, you know,recreate my own personal reality
(26:57):
and I can keep believing thatone day, you know, things are
gonna get better and not losehope and finally get to a point
where they're out of a toxicabusive environment or whatever
it may be, um, they can startliving a beautiful life, you
know?
SPEAKER_01 (27:11):
Yeah, you know, difficult.
I think also asking for help, itmight be difficult sometimes
when people are uh some peopleare not giving you the feedback
that you are expecting, but thatdoesn't mean that you shouldn't
uh or you should stop trying.
In my case, it happened, butthen when when I found my best
friend who lives in New York,and he just gave me that
(27:34):
sparkling, that that spark thatI need in my life in order to
start again believing insomething.
SPEAKER_00 (27:42):
And then, I mean, thanks to him, I already the
just in time podcast becauseyour friend was just in time for
you.
SPEAKER_01 (27:51):
Well, you know, in a way, yes, it is like that.
SPEAKER_00 (27:55):
That is, I think we meet these people along the way
in our journey, and they'relittle angels, they're little
gifts from God, and and it keepsus going, just like you and
Carson that day.
You know, and that's why it's soimportant that we do this and we
we talk about this.
SPEAKER_01 (28:12):
And to to to to talk about that freely and openly,
with no restrictions in thesense that not being afraid of
any kind of judgments, forexample.
Um it's a stigma like you werementioning before.
SPEAKER_00 (28:28):
So, and you don't know I was labeled as the black
sheep, the crazy one.
SPEAKER_01 (28:34):
We need to.
So, and and it's it's it's thateasy, especially when we are in
that position where we don'thave a voice, or um people are
sick and tired of listening tous or whatever.
It's that easy, but that doesn'tmean that it isn't possible.
It's really hard.
(28:54):
But after tell me, tell me, doyou want to say something?
SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
No, you just said possible, and what came into my
mind was what happens when weget triggers, we talk ourselves
out of possibility.
When we get triggered or whensomething is hard for us and it
brings up difficult things, andwe just have to keep pushing
through, you know, and not giveup.
(29:20):
And it but you actually have todo the work, you know.
There was a um an example thatDr.
Joe gave when we were um at hisadvanced workshop, and he said a
lady came up to him and I thinkshe said, she said, Why aren't I
living in um Santa Fe, NewMexico?
(29:41):
And he was like, Well, thatperson doesn't live in Santa Fe,
New Mexico.
And she's like, What are youtalking about?
And he's like, Are you doing thework?
And she's like, Well, I've beentired, or this or that.
I don't don't quote me exactly.
And then goes, answer thequestion, are you doing the
work?
Well Nope.
Are you doing the work?
(30:02):
So, so here's the thing.
It's like if you want it badenough and and you don't want to
stay a victim to your pain andyou truly want a way out, right?
Because for me, the payoff waslike, I do not want to live here
on this earth if I'm constantlyhave to coping with life, like I
want a life where I feelpowerful, right?
Like you said, where you don'teven know your own strength,
(30:25):
your own power.
And when people are believing inyou that you can reprogram your
brain and create a newelectromagnetic field that is
sending out differentfrequencies.
And so your personal reality andyour environment, the people
that you attract in your life ischanging.
Yes.
(30:45):
And it's like but it's like youhave to be at the point where
you're like you really want itto change, though.
You know what I mean?
And you have to be willing to dothe work.
If you don't do the work, likefor me, every day before I got
up after I left Cancun, right?
I went back home in, I think itwas maybe three months before we
(31:08):
did we flew to the advancedworkshop.
During that three months, I tookthis work serious.
Like I did not let my feet hitthe ground until I told myself I
was gonna have a good day.
Like I I made a deal to myselfbecause I was like, if I'm gonna
do this, I'm gonna go all in andI'm gonna give this everything I
(31:29):
got.
And if this doesn't work, then Ican kill myself later.
That's what I was tellingmyself.
So this was my last ditcheffort.
And thank God that I didn't giveup, and thank God that I kept
pushing forward, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (31:44):
You know, when you were just talking about the
electromagnetic field, Iremember also something that we
learned with Dr.
Joe, but also, well, I alsolearned from other sources,
sources.
But Dr.
Joe is really good how heteaches this.
It's about that we we we wecreate our own reality, and
sometimes we are not aware howmuch impact we have in our
(32:05):
present and future.
It depends because we're runningon that subconscious mind,
exactly, and it depends on whatenergy and emotions we have,
somehow it's going to createsome influence in our present
moment, and we might createsomething good, something might
not be so good or or evenamazing, but it we have to do
(32:28):
the work, that's the point.
We have to put it out.
SPEAKER_00 (32:30):
What we're saying is um remember he had us do an
exercise, and he said, uh, youneed okay, so if you want to um
feel um freedom, right?
Um, you need to like close youreyes, do your meditation, and
actually experience like likefreedom.
SPEAKER_02 (32:51):
Um my gosh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (32:53):
He gave another example, like his daughter when
wanted to go shopping.
Well, she had to tune in andimagine how she would feel if
she got to go on the bestshopping spree ever.
And then you you you you comeback and you have this energy
and this feeling because thebrain doesn't know any
different, whether you're doingit or not.
And that's the same thing withPTSD, right?
(33:15):
When you're recreating thosethoughts in your brain, your
brain doesn't know thedifference between if it
actually happened or if it'sjust in your brain.
Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_01 (33:25):
It makes it makes it makes sense, and especially when
he tries to teach you that it isreally important for you to
start already tasting thatflavor of the experience that
you what your new life feelslike.
Exactly, because your braindoesn't that doesn't know
exactly what is real orimagination, because at the end
of the day, the brain iscreating all the
(33:47):
neurotransmitters that'ssupposed to create with that
experience.
So, therefore, prepare the wholeorganism for that, because when
you are aligned with that,somehow you will go and approach
that direction.
So, and that that is connectedwith what you are feeling, what
what what what thoughts youhave, if you are breaking or no
(34:09):
patterns, if you are aware thatbecause you are running in
circles with all patterns andjust running automatically uh or
in a survival mode, of courseyou are not going to you of
course you are going to be stuckthere, unfortunately.
So that's why it's veryimportant to start tasting the
flavor of what you want toexperience, something good,
something different.
SPEAKER_00 (34:30):
And then your body can start craving it and getting
used to that.
SPEAKER_01 (34:33):
And you get ready for that.
You you your focus also littleby little is changing, and
somehow you pay more attentionto details where maybe you you
just didn't pay attention tosomething, and that's why you
have some different experience,for example.
Makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (34:49):
Absolutely.
It's just like, and then you'reand then it becomes less effort,
right?
So, like for instance, when I'mbrushing my teeth, I don't have
to think about how to brush myteeth because I already know how
to do it.
So it's a subconscious program.
I'm gonna keep that one, right?
Because I don't want to have tothink about how to brush my
teeth.
I learned that for other thoughtprocesses or um difficulties in
(35:16):
our life, bringing intoawareness what are the five
thoughts that we're thinkingthat are just killing us, our
energy on a daily basis, andchange those thoughts
intentionally.
Just pick one.
I challenge my listeners today,like pick one thought that like
quiet your mind and listen towhat you're hearing, or when you
(35:37):
look in the mirror and you seeyourself, what you what the
first negative thing that yousay about yourself, change it
and make it positive, and thencontinue to do that for the next
30, 60, 90 days and see how yourenergy and your attitude changes
with that perspective.
And it's amazing how how how howwe change, you know.
(35:59):
If these they say your thoughtscan make you sick, right?
SPEAKER_01 (36:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (36:04):
If your thoughts can make you sick, then your
thoughts can make you well.
SPEAKER_01 (36:08):
For sure, it is like that.
Sometimes we just want quickresults, and that's that
sometimes can be a little bitdisappointing, but we need to
keep continuing, keep doing,doing the work.
SPEAKER_00 (36:24):
Yeah, and again, like if somebody is in a crisis,
please don't tell them toreprogram their brain in that
moment.
You know, call 988 or call 911,um, you know, remove lethal
means, make sure you're safe,make sure the other person's
safe.
Um, don't don't try to have thisconversation at that time.
I just I would just want to bevery clear about that.
(36:46):
This isn't the time to talk talkabout neuroplasticity.
This this comes later.
Um, if someone is in immediatedanger, please, please, please
call or text 988.
And uh since Diego is bilingual,uh, you did you want to um say
that to our words?
SPEAKER_01 (37:03):
Yeah, I would say in Spanish, but can you remind me
the numbers?
SPEAKER_00 (37:06):
The word so if somebody is struggling or in a
crisis, they can call 988, call,or text.
SPEAKER_01 (37:16):
Right.
Entonces, miren, if all thesepeople are atraves for moments
difficiling that always stayrelation with, for example,
inclusive suicidio, it's moreimportant in prime not trying to
invalidar loss or decided toreprogram.
For this, there exist differenttypes of audience, and llamar al
(37:39):
call in the number again.
SPEAKER_00 (37:41):
988.
SPEAKER_01 (37:43):
Llamar al 988 for those cases specific of
emergency.
SPEAKER_00 (37:49):
Perfect.
SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
You understood what I mean?
How is your Spanish?
You need to do the work alsowith your Spanish, eh?
SPEAKER_00 (37:55):
Poquito español.
SPEAKER_01 (38:02):
Uh, you know, Jettika, something that you were
saying, and I I will not gothrough that so much because now
we are here for another topic,but just because you mentioned,
and I think to you we cannotbring just this answer to
anybody to start saying, um,start changing your mindset
because sometimes people mightnot feel validate for that
(38:25):
moment.
So every person and everyexperience is different.
That's why you were mentioningthe protocol of this and where
they should call.
Um, so it's really importantjust to be aware that every
situation is different and alsonot to invalidate people when
they feel fragile, for example,because you know, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (38:46):
It's it you don't want to try to like almost like
I don't know, cheer them up orthis or that.
It's like it's very hard andit's very complex, you know.
SPEAKER_01 (38:57):
Um I I can just talk through my own experience, and
it is like this when when I wasgoing through difficult moments,
and people somehow it is notthat maybe they just don't take
you so seriously.
You were mentioning alsosomething about how we are now
educated with these emotions andthese situations, and we cope
this defense mechanism in orderto really deal and go through
(39:18):
the emotions.
We just try to just fix quicklyor you know.
SPEAKER_00 (39:23):
Yeah, yeah.
We and we don't want to do that.
We don't want to feel like theper like we need to fix the
person, right?
That almost makes them feelworse, I think.
Um, so I'm I'm glad that youbrought that up.
And the last episode we had umJacqueline, she was the area
director, is the area directorfor AFSP, and she talked a lot
about that too.
It's just like making sure, youknow, that you're listening and
(39:45):
being supportive, asking them,hey, are you struggling with
thoughts of suicide?
Do you have a plan?
And just getting the person incontact with somebody that can
help them, you know, justsafety, safety first.
Because the biggest thing whenit comes to suicide education um
or prevention uh when you aredealing with somebody that is in
(40:06):
a crisis is time.
Because the brain will just likefreak out for a certain amount
of time.
And the longer that time goesby, the less likely uh they are,
you know, to do something thatthey would later regret.
So but um what else were wegonna?
(40:30):
We were gonna tap intosomething.
SPEAKER_01 (40:31):
I just want I just want to share something how Dr.
Joe has a huge impact also nowwith this clinic here in
Paraguay.
So I went through university andI learned all the classic tools
and they are wonderful and ithelps a lot.
And I'm using everything and Ilove it.
But at the same time, somethings that in university, um,
(40:56):
let's say the program is notteaching you, it's about how
just to approach people besidesthe scientific facts, which are
amazing, also combined with theholistic one, for example, and
that's what I had with Dr.
Joe.
And for example, in my clinic,my clinic looked like this
Balinese style spiritualretreat.
(41:18):
Why?
It has a purpose.
My purpose is to createsomething different, something
new.
And when people come here, theyjust don't think about the
symptoms and signs and theproblem.
Besides that, they feel herevery welcome, but also they are
focusing on other things andthey are present with what is
(41:38):
this.
It makes sense.
So we don't have the nociboeffect so much in our brain
where we already start creatingeven more the symptoms and
signs.
So here we work with all thewonderful tools, but also I'm
creating an atmosphere wheresomehow we can just be um I
(41:58):
think the environment in someway is so important, and I think
what you're doing is reallysmart.
SPEAKER_00 (42:03):
And I like also how you're um adding in all the
anti-aging benefits and likereally being like all inclusive,
you know.
I think it's I think it's reallygreat work what you're doing.
Um but I think this concludesour episode.
Is there anything else that youwould like to let our followers
know, Diego?
SPEAKER_01 (42:22):
Well, wait a minute, Jessica.
There are so much things I'mjust kidding.
No, but actually, I mean, let Imean it happened so many things.
We were after Cancun, we were inDr.
Joe Dispensa in Berlin, Germany.
And then after that, um, well, Idid other retreats too.
Do you remember what otherretreats you did?
SPEAKER_00 (42:43):
Or um goodness.
I did like a workshop in Sedona.
SPEAKER_02 (42:49):
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (42:51):
Yeah, and I did I did a couple of other ones, but
nothing was like Dispenza.
Like, oh, I did I did theadvanced follow-up, actually.
Oh, you did, okay.
I did, I did the advancedfollow-up.
Um and I actually did atestimony for Dr.
Joe Dispenza, and it's reallyhard to watch.
When I go back and I look atthat video, you can still see my
(43:15):
body is in survival mode.
And I think I was really, reallynervous to do it, but it's kind
of crazy because at that time Iactually said in in the
interview that I did withDispenza, I said I was gonna
open up a nonprofit and call itjust in time to save a life
before it was ever opened, yearsbefore.
And I actually did it and it'samazing, and it's helping
(43:38):
people, and but it is sad tolook at the video because I can
see it's like it takes a whilefor the body to catch up with
the brain.
It's like my brain knew it wasgetting out of survival mode,
but because it was in my bodywas still kind of in it, it was
(43:58):
yeah, I still my heart breakswhen I when I see that, you
know, and it reminds me of howfar that I've come.
But to all my followers outthere, all of our listeners,
just never give up and don'tlose hope and keep trying and
keep moving forward because lifeis better with you in it.
And um, you know, suicidecreates a ripple-like effect,
(44:21):
and it really, really hurts thepeople that um that are left
behind.
And I think a lot of peopledon't talk about that because
they feel guilty to talk aboutit in a way.
But I have just met so manysuicide survivors that are still
devastated.
And one of the episodes thatwe're gonna get into later um on
(44:42):
this journey for the Justin Timepodcast is diving deep into
survivor loss.
Um people who have lost lovedones to suicide and the effects
that it has on them and the helpthat they need to get.
Um, because for every onesuicide, there's 25 other
attempts.
That is insane to me.
(45:04):
So um thank you guys so much forlistening.
Diego, thank you so much forbeing here.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (45:10):
Thank you for inviting me.
So I hope I can just come backagain and then we can keep
continuing other topics relatedto it.
SPEAKER_02 (45:17):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (45:17):
I'm having so much fun, but uh, in the sense that
for me, this is a serious topic,but it's so amazing to talk to
someone who I mean, somehow weare connected in many ways.
Yes, and now to see ourselvesliving the life that we have is
just um yes, that's what peopleneed.
SPEAKER_00 (45:38):
It's like you have two people that attempted
suicide multiple times that arehere today telling you that they
no longer struggle with suicideideation because they've
reprogrammed their brain andthey found a way out.
And that's the program thatJustin Time wants to create.
It's called From Darkness toHope.
And I don't know why it's notcreated yet, but it's going to
be.
So maybe we can get maybe we canget the spending to come on and
(46:00):
help create it with us.
If you're struggling, rememberhow you think is how you feel.
If your feelings feel heavy,start by shifting the thought.
You're not stuck.
Your brain can change, so canyour story.
I'm Jessica G.
This is the Justin Time podcast,and I'll see you next time.
Until then, keep going.
Never give up.
And remember, the world isbetter with you in it, whether
(46:21):
you believe it or not.
To help reach others, pleaseshare this with your friends,
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