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December 9, 2025 38 mins

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Every December, families gather to do two things: eat cookies… and fight.
 In this episode of the Just Some BS Podcast, Brandon brings in Esther Angell — executive leader, culture expert, and unapologetic Christmas superfan — to settle the Top 10 Christmas Debates once and for all.

This episode covers:
 • Is Die Hard actually a Christmas movie?
• White lights vs colored lights (and what it says about you)
• Real tree vs fake tree — and the trauma behind your choice
• When Christmas decorating should actually start
• Eggnog: festive beverage or dairy-based crime?
• Christmas music in October — who hurt these people?
• Matching pajamas: adorable… or cult behavior?
• Do adults really need gifts?
• Favorite snacks, childhood memories & glitter trauma
• How leadership, empathy, and traditions collide during the holidays

It’s funny, nostalgic, slightly unhinged, and surprisingly meaningful — especially when Esther brings in leadership lessons, empathy, culture, and finding joy during a chaotic season.

If you love Christmas, hate Christmas, or just love the drama of Christmas debates, this is the episode for you.

00:00 – Intro & why Esther loves Christmas
01:05 – Culture, leadership & honesty during the holidays
03:20 – Esther’s Christmas resume
04:45 – Early Christmas memories & family traditions
06:20 – Debate #1: Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?
07:40 – Debate #2: White lights vs colored lights
10:15 – Debate #3: Real tree vs fake tree
14:00 – Debate #4: When decorating should officially start
17:55 – Debate #5: Eggnog — festive treat or crime?
20:50 – Debate #6: Christmas music in October
24:00 – Debate #7: Do adults actually need gifts?
27:20 – Debate #8: Best holiday snacks & new business ideas
29:20 – Debate #9: Matching pajamas — wholesome or cult?
30:45 – Debate #10: Ugly sweaters & Christmas fashion
32:50 – Esther’s new podcast & what success means
35:20 – Final reminder about joy, saying no & holiday pressure
37:40 – Closing thoughts

Our Guest

Esther Angell

https://www.linkedin.com/in/estherangell/

https://www.instagram.com/esthereena /


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