Are you ready to take control of your women’s health and break the silence around sexual wellness?
In this powerful episode, Jacquelynn Cotten dives deep into the real conversations we should be having about reproductive health, sexual wellness, and the myths that keep women in the dark.
Joining us are Jamie Norwood and Cynthia Plotch from Winx Health, a company dedicated to making women’s health products and information more accessible, accurate, and stigma-free. They share their journey of challenging outdated beliefs, fighting misinformation, and helping women take charge of their sexual wellness.
💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
✔️ The biggest myths about women’s health—and the truth behind them
✔️ How misinformation on social media (especially TikTok) is harming and helping women’s reproductive health
✔️ Why reclaiming sexual wellness is essential for confidence and empowerment
✔️ Where to find women’s health products that actually support your body
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think also like because people are searching on
TikTok and YouTube and becausethose are like for-profit media
companies that sell products,like you know, gen Z, 85% of Gen
Z.
I think it is like searches fortheir answers to their
questions on TikTok andtherefore like learns about new
products I get so many TikTokads for, like a gummy that is
(00:23):
supposed to make your vaginasmell like pineapple.
What the fuck, straight up,like it's a pineapple gummy and
it's like all these girls beinglike my boyfriend can't get
enough of my vagina.
He says it tastes likepineapple and I'm like, oh my
God.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, you're
listening to Just Women TalkingShit with your host, Jacqueline
Cotton.
Jacqueline Cotton.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, hey, ladies, how are you?
I'm doing super well.
How are y'all Doing great?
Excited to be here?
Good, I'm really excited,really excited.
I can't wait to hear all thethings, okay, especially when it
comes to sex health.
I'm very interested in that.
(01:20):
I'm in my dirty 30s, okay, soIs that a thing that people say?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Did you not know that ?
What Cause same?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh my God, yeah, apparently that's a thing and I
didn't know it was a thing.
Is Elise going to be talking atall?
No, okay, she's just, she'sjust hanging out, cool.
No, okay, she's just, she'sjust hanging out, cool, all
right.
Well, um, I just go, I wentahead and hit record.
I'm very just candid with myinterviews.
I don't know if y'all have hadthe chance to listen to anything
yet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, okay.
(01:55):
And then, um, so there's,there's no seriously, there's no
like formal questions.
It's just going to be supernatural.
We'll see where conversationtakes us, right, and I kind of
just want to get to know aboutyour company, about, like, how
it started and everything, andabout you all and your stories
and how you got here, and justlike I think about it is if we
(02:18):
were just sitting down havingsome tea or some coffee and
we're getting to know each otherlike a little friend, bumble,
date or something, and I askedlike, oh my god, tell me all
about you.
That's how it's gonna be.
So amazing, no pressure, nopressure at all.
But if we could, now that Ihave, um, just talked and talked
already, if you could tell meyour names and then a little bit
(02:40):
about, like this company.
It's Winx, right, winx held,okay, um, and just how, how we
kind of got here.
I know that you shifted, it wasa different company name, right
, um.
And just a little bit about you, like, how did this all come
together?
Because it it typically juststarts as like this I got an
idea and then you either executeor you don't, and bam y, y'all
(03:03):
executed.
So I can't wait to hear aboutit.
Whoever wants to go first?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh sure, I'll kick off.
Yeah, so Cynthia and I startedworking together in 2019.
We had been colleagues Well, weactually started working
together way earlier, in 2015,but we started working on the
business that is today, winx, in2019.
We were co-workers at the timeand we were at a startup and the
(03:31):
founders were two men in theirtwenties.
Like you know, we were allaround the same age and it was a
very 10 or dude bros, dependingon how you want to call them.
I would say yeah yeah, we werelike all at the time working at
this company, like 23 through 27.
Like you know, there are under10 of us and Cynthia and I
(03:54):
became like work besties and wewould often talk about starting
something of ourselves.
You know, we were like if theycan do it, we can probably do it
too.
Um, and Cynthia was.
We were always interested inwomen's health Like we just love
talking about, like women'shealth and sexual health and sex
(04:15):
ed and like all that stuff asfriends.
Um, and one day Cynthia wasbuying a pregnancy test with the
drug store and she ran into herex-boyfriend's mom which she
can elaborate on.
But basically she called me andwe were like we're just ranting
and raving about how we bothhave had really bad experiences
(04:35):
buying these products.
Not just, like you know, theexperience of walking down the
aisle and picking up theproducts, but like taking them
was confusing, the pricing wasconfusing, we never knew what
was going on with our vaginalhealth or sexual health.
So basically like that kind ofsnowballed into where we are
today.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's been six years, which is insane to think about.
It hurts my brain sometimes tosay that number, but it's been
so cool how much the brand hasevolved as we've learned a ton
from our community and ourcustomers.
Like we started with apregnancy test and now you know
Jamie keeps saying sexual andsexual, vaginal and reproductive
(05:18):
health.
We have this big focus and bigdreams and it's been amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
My hands are cold so it takes me a second to tap the
screen and be able to feel whatI'm doing.
Okay, so that is super cool andthe whole.
I mean that I guess I've neverreally stopped and thought about
that.
So I'm in the Bible Belt,because you couldn't tell by
this ridiculous accent.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's adorable.
I don't know what you'retalking about.
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But, like, sex has always been super, super,
fucking taboo.
Like, yeah, just for a littlestory, okay, just to show how
taboo it is.
Um, I remember, and this isactually pretty terrible, but
thinking about the shame and thetrauma and like the whole
experience of something sonatural, this is literally how
(06:07):
we all fucking got here.
Y'all Like, why are we so?
Why are people so weird aboutit?
But I lost my virginity at 15and I trusted my mom with that
information because she had ashit ton of kids and I was like,
okay, I really don't want towind up like her, like I want to
plan this shit out right.
And I remember telling her andI was like, so I felt like I had
(06:28):
become a woman, you know.
And she always told me tell mewhen you do that we want to make
sure that, like you know,you're protected and doing it
right.
And I did.
And the next thing, I knewy'all, I'm not even shitting you
sermon at church guess what itwas about?
Abstinence of abstinence, uh,burning in hell, the fiery pits
(06:52):
of hell, sex before marriage,all the fucking things.
This sounds made up.
No, this sounds like some shitout of a movie.
No, no, that that happened andI remember feeling the shame and
the weight of the wholecongregation on me and so like
down South, like whether it'sSouthern Baptist, pentecostal,
whatever, like a thing that theydo, and I don't identify with
(07:15):
the church anymore.
But the thing that they do isthey like at the end of the
sermon or if you're feeling ledor you've got sins you need to
repent for, you go to the altarright.
And here's the thing is, likeI'm telling you, these people
love the attention of liketalking in tongues and stuff
like that, not trying to.
This is my personal experience.
What I mean by that is likeeverybody was at the altar on
(07:40):
Sundays, but not that Sunday.
Everybody waited for me to goand it was the most oh my God,
talk about shame.
So when I talk, when I talk nowabout like I'm in my dirty 30s
and I'm owning it, it's becauseI didn't like start even
enjoying sex or talking aboutsex or even know what to do
about sex.
Until I was in my 30s, until Istarted seeking answers and
(08:01):
having interviews with peoplelike you, I didn't even know
like what the like, like whatthe actual vagina is Like.
I didn't know all the parts,the labia, I didn't know any of
that.
So when I'm like talking aboutmy vag, I'm thinking it's like
the whole, like yeah, it's just,it's just that's what it is,
but like there are parts of it.
(08:21):
So this is super cool and I'dlike I asked the backstory,
because it usually is somethinglike that was a personal
experience.
So I'm curious like how didthat?
How did that feel, cynthia?
Were you like humiliated?
Were you like what were thefeelings and things going
through your head?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well, okay, before I answer that, I just want to say
that like I'm so sorry that youhad that experience and that
sounds so traumatizing.
Thank you so much.
And like to your point about itbeing like it's both so
personal and also so universal,like our experiences around our
bodies and sex, right, likeeveryone's body is different and
everyone's life and childhoodis different.
(08:59):
But like also, everybody hassex and we all got here, most
likely, more likely than not,because of sex, or at least sex
was some bit a part of it, right.
And so like, yeah, the shamearound it is awful, but anyway,
my experience yeah, I mean itwas it was awful.
I cried Right, like that's thequickest way to sum it up it was
(09:20):
awful.
We were I was still with the exat the time and his mom was
excited, so it could have beenworse.
But I mean I literally like ranout of the store like I handled
it Definitely not maturely anddefinitely not responsibly.
Like ran out of the store LikeI handled it definitely not
maturely and definitely notresponsibly.
And I still get embarrassedwhen I talk about it and it's so
interesting.
Like Jamie, I don't even knowif you have this experience, but
(09:42):
starting this business hastotally changed, not just the
way I talk about sex or my bodywith friends, but the
conversations my family hasaround things too.
Like it's been reallyfascinating, like how much just
doing this work has totallychanged, like the way that I get
to talk about this stuff in theworld it's cool.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, and going off of that, like these are two
stories.
I mean, you and Cynthia and Iall grew up in different areas
of the country.
All had access to reallydifferent conversations around
sex and sex ed and religion.
And like, no matter where youcome from or what kind of
upbringing you are brought upwith, like there is so much
(10:21):
shame and mystery around sex inour bodies.
Like it's not just like youknow, growing up in an extreme
religious environment, you don'tget access to that.
It's like you could grow up inthe most liberal neighborhood
with sex ed in your school andstill there's like just such
little conversation about it.
(10:42):
So that was like really, youknow we've learned so much more
about that since starting thebusiness, but that's why
community and sex education islike the at the center of our
brand.
You know 33 states, I think itis don't require sex ed to be
medically accurate.
Um, and like when you weresaying you didn't know about
(11:03):
like uh, you know the vulva andthe vagina and all the different
parts.
Like that's so, so common.
So it is just like a really,yeah, I think by working in this
field, we have so much moreaccess to conversations around
this.
And, like Cynthia was saying,like now, I mean even still,
like I'm in my 30s as well, likeI get friends texting me every
(11:25):
time they go to the gynecologistwith a question, or like you
know, if they asking the sideeffects of plan b or something
like that, and like I'm not, youknow, a doctor.
But that's why we create theselike medically verified
resources.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And also like why we share so many personal stories
and love hearing other people'spersonal stories because I think
that's so connecting, and soyou know, a lot of what we do is
sharing, like Jamie said,medically accurate, verified
information honestly, and alsolegally accurate, verified
information, which now is supercritical as we're understanding
and taking control of our bodiesbut also sharing people's
(12:00):
stories and sharing our ownstories, because I think that is
what can make people feel safeand connected and like able to
have conversations like this.
Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Beautiful.
You said okay, jamie, you're inyour thirties, cynthia.
I have to ask what are?
How old are you?
Um, yes, in your 30s, cynthia.
I have to ask what are?
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
um?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
yes, no, just kidding , I'm 32 for some reason I felt
like I was so much older thanyou guys and it makes me wonder,
I don't know.
Just it's so hard to guess agesthese days, like I don't know
if you've noticed, butespecially talking about sex and
whatnot and probably beingexposed to a lot of younger
women, like young women, andanyway they just skip over the
(12:39):
ugly phase entirely now and turninto full-grown women, and so
I'm just sometimes I think I'mtalking like a grown-ass woman
and she's like oh, 12.
I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
100% I love those TikToks that are like me and my
friends in middle school andit's like, yeah, like doing
coordinated dances to like youknow.
And then it's like versusmiddle schoolers today and they
look like they're like 25supermodels.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, I was covered in pimples with like crazy socks
and looking like pippy longstockings and like just yeah,
recording songs and thenspending five hours writing
lyrics and then we come up withdances.
No, there was nothing about us,that was.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
We had a lot more free time without like having
the internet in our pocket.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So yeah, our imaginations Less pressure, you
know yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh, my God.
Yeah, the pressure wasdifferent, though it was like a
different kind of pressurebecause I remember I thought
about that and I've thoughtabout this a lot, because I get
so pissed with my kids that theyfeel they need like the devices
in front of them all the time.
So I'm very, I'm very like Iwant to get back to nature.
The whole reason I'm building acompany is I can make a shit
(13:49):
ton of money doing what I lovebuy a bunch of land, wake up
with chickens like I want to beable to have all this money so I
can unplug, but still, like,change the world, and so my kids
are kind of it's.
Thank you so much.
That's probably the southern inme, I don't know.
But um, well, I just I'msurrounded well, not right now,
(14:10):
but like there's a lot of cowsand I'm just, I guess, used to
the farmland, but I've never gotto own any Shit.
Where was I?
Oh, the kids, though.
So, like I want to get back tothe basics.
My husband is very like ifthey're getting, we're just
different in that way.
I'm more so like, oh, let's geta coloring book or let's go
outside and I don't know, go andlook in the grass and see if we
(14:30):
can find a new ecosystem typething, and he's like, oh, but
here's the phone.
So it's very I have these mixedfeelings.
But I thought about it and Iwas like, well, like I get so
angry at my kids and, like youknow, we say silly stuff, like
we didn't come home until it wasgetting dark outside.
That's when we know it was timeto come home, stuff like that.
Then I think about the pressure.
(14:51):
What was our pressure?
And I remember do you remember?
Like tabloids.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And the magazines, and so it was like a different
kind of pressure.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think like it all is just adapting.
Like I remember begging formore time in front of the TV and
like my parents being resistantto that, but now it's like when
kids have iPads, it's just a'sjust a different.
Like at least we didn't havecontrol over what we were
watching and there werecommercials and we all had to
(15:20):
watch the same thing.
Now it's like, you know, justendless content, um and control.
But I mean it will it willtranslate, it'll be interesting.
I don't know how old your kidsare and Cynthia and I don't have
kids but, um, like I'm just sofascinated by like middle school
aged and high school agedteenagers, like in this
(15:43):
environment as it relates to sex, ed, and like healthy
conversations about sex andaccess to porn, like I just
think it's so uncharted waters.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yes, okay.
So okay, you know how I said inthe beginning, we're just going
to let this play.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
We're just going to wing it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
That's what we need to talk about, because I'm so.
So my daughter's turning 12.
She's got her period, she is.
So she's in middle school,sixth grade.
I took her out of school onMonday because of her mental
health, because she's gettingpicked on.
She's hit puberty very early.
She looks like she's one.
She's taller than me.
This girl's got more curvesthan like this.
(16:20):
She's decked out like a woman,okay, and and then her, her dad
passed in 2020 over the pandemicand like so it's all these
things.
Her mental health is like theutmost important importance to
me right now.
Right, so took her out ofschool now.
So I took her out of school Now, before I took her out of
school, we had had some likemishaps where something as
simple as like fucking Robloxturned into.
(16:44):
Let's just say it ended with metaking a hammer to her phone
because I was so angry.
It wasn't my finest moment, butit made me realize how
accessible this stuff is.
So she's not one that, like,sits and looks at porn.
I know she's gotten curious andshe asks me and she asks about
her body, and she knows that Iwill.
We have that kind ofrelationship, but what got me
was that kids are even like onRoblox, having virtual sex,
(17:10):
bumping blocks and stuff.
I'm like what?
I'm like, my little, my littlegirl's doing stuff like this,
has no idea what she's actuallysaying, what it means, none of
that.
And then I'm just glad that wefound it so I could like have a
conversation with her around sexand how it's actually sacred
and important and it'sempowering.
But like you don't give it toeverybody.
(17:30):
You know what I mean.
But like it goes back to thatwhole social media thing,
because she compares, so she hasno access to social media.
She cannot watch YouTube shorts, none of that.
The only thing she can have arelike creative outlets, so like,
and even CapCut I'm kind ofweird about, because there's
templates and so she gets to seewhat other women look like and
how beautiful they are.
(17:51):
And but like, what is yourstance on that?
The whole social media.
And like you were talking aboutporn.
I know here in Mississippi Imean I'm not gonna lie, I like
look a little porn.
Okay, I found out real quickthat is not allowed in
Mississippi right now unlessyou're over the age of 18 and
willing to put some informationin.
So I found a re, uh, aworkaround, but like yeah, yeah,
(18:11):
oh I didn know that I just wentto a different website.
I don't want there to be anyshame around that and I'm super
up with my kids that like okay,yeah, you're gonna be super
curious, do that kind of stuffin your bedroom.
But like, what's your, what'syour take on the whole social
media thing?
Because it's got it's got me asa parent mind fucked and I'm
(18:33):
like what are they?
What are I don't know?
It's kind of scary and there'slike the whole perversion aspect
of it too and how unsafe it isthe information the people out
there preying on the children,like it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, it's so scary.
I mean, first of all, we don'thave kids and so like I feel
like that's so important to know, because it's easier in some
ways, I think, for us to thinkabout it or talk about it,
because there's not that weightof actually having our own
children right now.
Like that's intense.
I think that's like everything,like there's an immense power
which can be used for good orfor evil.
(19:07):
But when young people arelooking for information on their
health, they literally start onTikTok, like we probably Google
, and end up on WebMD.
But young people go to TikTokor YouTube first without fail.
That can be really empoweringbecause there is some amazing
content.
Like we make a ton of reallygreat content.
That is like better designedfor a young person's ears or
(19:31):
better designed around a woman'sbody than a lot of what we'll
see.
You know, if you Google, if youlook at the Google results of
something or like is less fearmongering than a web MD.
But there's also a ton ofinformation and changing like
policies from Facebook meta thatit's going to make this way way
, way more dangerous, becausethey're getting rid of content
(19:54):
moderation and they're gettingrid of fact checking.
So it's got.
There's going to be more andmore misinformation.
I mean, I think that one of themost important things that we
have to teach young people ishow to understand tell like
truth from fiction, how tounderstand what is real and what
is not, how to checkinformation and do your own
research to validate things.
Because we can't control socialmedia, I mean, we'll see what
(20:17):
happens with TikTok.
Maybe that'll go away, buteveryone is flocking to that new
app that, jamie, you wereplaying on the other day, like
we have no way of actuallycontrolling it.
So we have to arm ourselves tohandle it as best as we can and
arm the generation.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And I think you and again, like we don't have
children and that's what scaresme most about having children is
like what happens when they'reteenagers and they have all this
access to stuff that, like Ididn't have access to.
But I think you had the answer,jacqueline, when you were
saying, like I, I told my, mydaughter knows that she can come
to me and she knows, to talkabout things relating to her
(20:52):
body and sex, and like justhaving those conversations seems
like the most important thing,you know, like knowing that
there's a safe, trusted adultthat they can come to and be
open with.
Because I feel like what is themost hindering and like
developmentally scary to me islike all of the shame and
secrets around sex, like and andour bodies and and health.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Like you know, the secrets are what really scares
me and like, if you think aboutyour story, like you did talk to
somebody but they handled itterribly.
And, jame, I know you like hadkind of open open conversations
as a kid.
I remember like I told my momthe first time I had my I know
you like had kind of openconversations as a kid.
I remember like I told my momthe first time I had my first
kiss and she like had my coolaunt pull me aside at a family
party to like give me a talk andlike that was humiliating not
(21:37):
nearly as bad as your experiencebut like I never talked to my
mom honestly about anythingrelated to like boys or sex.
Really, from there, that was soembarrassing.
So yeah, having safe space.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, and I didn't talk to my mom about that stuff
Like I I knew I guess I couldhave, but I never did.
Like when I got my firstboyfriend she asked me if I
needed to be on birth controland I was like no and she was
like okay, like that was kind ofit, like that was kind of it,
(22:11):
but I just think hopefully, withthis generation and having
millennial parents, millennialsturning into parents, gen Z
turning into parents, there willbe much more of a like
vocabulary around this, thesetopics and, and hopefully, some
regulations and like guidelines.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I don't know if you run into that at all, but it's
all very confusing, like from aparent's perspective.
But it's interesting to hearyour perspective because I feel
like with you not having kids,you're not as on guard, so you
probably see a lot more than Ido.
You know like, and in yourindustry you're probably exposed
to more content like that.
So when you say that people aregoing to TikTok, that young
(22:48):
people are going to TikToklooking for answers when it
comes to sexual health, vaginalhealth, all those things like
self-expression, you know allthose, what are like, what are
some of the things that they'researching for?
And is it coming in the form ofjust short form content?
Is it you're talking about?
Just like anybody and everybody?
So, like I'm a business coach,it's not regulated in the States
(23:12):
to be a coach at all, right, soI guess that's what makes it so
scary and we don't know if it'sfactual.
But what are some of the thingsthat you're noticing people are
searching for Right now?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
there's a ton of people asking questions around
how can I control myreproductive health?
So like, okay, newadministration, a lot of scary
regulation.
I mean you live in Mississippi,you know a lot of lack of
access to critical healthcare,like abortion, so we see people
all the time searching like whatis plan B, how do I prevent
(23:44):
pregnancy, like birth controlright, like putting in those
sorts of things, and you couldend up with a great doctor
giving you information.
You could end up on Winx's pagewhere we try to have a big
sister vibe when it comes tothose resources.
You could also end up in a lotof really scary places too.
(24:05):
Maybe don't directly, you know,give sermons on a sunday about
shame around sex, but could end.
You could end you up, could onecould take you there.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
We go to the right place I think also like because
people are searching on tiktokand youtube and because those
are like for-profit mediacompanies that sell products,
like you know, gen Z, 85% of GenZ.
I think it is like searches fortheir answers to their
questions on TikTok andtherefore like learns about new
products I get so many TikTokads for like a gummy that is
(24:39):
supposed to make your vaginasmell like pineapple.
What the fuck?
Straight up, like it's apineapple gummy.
And it's like all these girlsbeing like my boyfriend can't
get enough of my vagina.
He says it tastes likepineapple and I'm like, oh my
god, and I click into the likeTikTok shop of that page.
There are thousands of reviews,thousands.
(25:02):
So it's like you know, think ofthe percentage of people that
actually reviews like so manygirls, young girls, are buying
this product and it's teachingthem to be embarrassed or
ashamed of how their vaginasmells when realistically, like
your body shouldn't smell like apineapple.
You know that actually.
Like you know, by using scentedproducts or stuff like that,
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there are adverse negativeeffects.
So that's really scary to meand it's really important to us
as a company.
Like we do not use languagelike that anywhere.
Like we don't call the vagina,anything but a vagina.
You know we don't do sense, wedon't do any like shameful
(25:43):
language.
I don't know.
It's just it's scary out there.
Yeah, like you were saying,it's unregulated and anyone can
make a product for anything.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So you just said something and you said we don't
call it anything other than avagina.
What is your?
I just have to ask, because Iliterally just said pineapple
before I knew you were okay.
Okay, I don't want to embarrassmyself and say it again, but
like that seems seems to be a,and it's always kind of nerved
(26:09):
me, but like I remember as acoach a few years back like the
p-word was such a empoweringword like pussy that like the
whole feminine flow and like runyour business from the feminine
, like from your that, so thatto like I don't know, I don't
(26:30):
know what that's about, but whatare your thoughts on that you
talking about?
we don't say anything other likewhat it is.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean for us, because we're a health product
and and these are, like you know, fda regulated um
pharmaceutical.
Some of our products arepharmaceuticals like and all of
our content is medicallyverified.
Like we want to use anatomicallanguage.
But like, if you love, like youknow, if you find it empowering
(27:00):
and I remember the in theWomen's March with the pussy
hats and like all of that Ifthat's empowering to you, by all
means means.
We just want it to be reallyclear that we are like a
medically accurate hub yesbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I also like, personally, pussy vag.
I feel like those all are nothiding away from what it is.
I hate when people use likeflower euphemisms like flower or
like peach, I don't know, likewhat.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I'm not her peach y'all did you notice how I was
having a hard time even sayingthat word?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
yeah, no it's.
I mean, it's like so ingrainedin us to just be like around it.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, okay.
So with the whole medical thing, tell me more about the company
, like.
What is the mission, what arelike services, products, all
those kinds of things.
How are you, besides theinformation you're putting out
there, and like the resources?
What does Winx look like?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
So our mission is to empower confident health
decisions and that's been ourmission since day one.
So we like to say we're asexual and vaginal health hub
with the products and educationyou need to make confident
health decisions.
So we offer over-the-counterproducts like pregnancy tests,
UTI tests, yeast infection tests, the morning after pill, and we
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also have our tests areconnected to telehealth so you
can like get your treatment foryour UTI once you take the test
and we right now you canpurchase our products on our
site.
We're also in a number ofretail locations.
We're in grocery stores.
We're hoping to launch intomore retailers this year, so
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that is like the product side ofwhat we do.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Now I was going to ask.
So, going back to your story,cynthia, in the beginning you
were talking about, you know,walking down the aisle and the
whole experience and the like,because there is this instant
stigma and shame around that.
Oh, I've got to go get a.
You know, for us it's like I'mnot married and premarital sex
and all the shame of how we'resupposed to do it.
Like this test we're supposedto do it in.
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I'm curious, like, what makesWinx different, because you
mentioned that you're in storestoo.
So do you guys do the wholetelehealth thing?
Are they able to get what theyneed sent through the mail or?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
tell me about that.
There's a million answers tothat.
And that starts with everymoment around the brand, right?
Um, we do.
Yeah, we are in retail.
I mean, we started mostlyonline because of you know our
experiences.
But the truth is like womenstill want to buy these products
, largely in store today, and wewant to be where they are.
So that's why we do that.
(29:50):
But you'll even notice if youput our package next to, let's
say, azo, which is the big UTIbrand, our products.
Again, they don't have anyfluff around them.
We tell you exactly what it is,the goal being that you get in
that aisle and you get out.
You go there, you know exactlywhat you need, you can find it
quickly.
It's not confusing.
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We kind of remove that in thatexperience to help you move
through it confidently.
And then the telehealth pieceis really cool too.
So Jamie mentioned all of ourtests.
You're actually able to take apicture of them.
We tell you what it is so likeyes, you have a UTI.
No, it's not BV, whatever thatmight look like and then can
connect you to a doctor to getprescription treatment.
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That part all happens online,so you don't actually have to go
to urgent care, your primarycare doctor.
I have used it before.
I love it.
Yeah, we were, jamie and I wereat meetings in Chicago and I
had my first ever yeastinfection and I used our product
.
It was awesome, um and um, yeah.
So, and then you can pick it up, mostly in a local pharmacy,
(30:56):
although there are someopportunities for other things
cool.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, this sounds so cool because I.
So what I'm gathering is likeyou're're the reason, first off,
they find you the information,the education and there's no
fluff Then.
So what I'm gathering is is,because it's such a like
sensitive process I mean theyeast infection, the you know
UTIs, like all of it's superuncomfortable, right, and then
(31:22):
having to like I don't want towalk up to a man especially and
be like, so you know, is thiswhat I need?
So you're telling me that likeit's kind of you're educating
people and then they, they knowexactly, like they don't have to
go and talk to anybody, it'sgoing to be easy to find and,
okay, we give them control overtheir health.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's what we want to do.
We give them control over theirhealth.
That's what we want to do.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
That's beautiful.
I love this.
I love this.
Didn't know that people weresearching for information on
TikTok about stuff like this,but that is super, yeah,
interesting, interesting ingeneral.
So, jamie, what you got for me.
You got any words of wisdom?
Any final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
what you got for me?
You got any words of wisdom,any final thoughts?
Um, just that.
We are like constantly puttingout new information about
vaginal and reproductive healthand sexual health, and
especially this year, the yearof 2025.
We want to be like a safe spacefor women and girls and anyone
who's interested to like learnabout their bodies and also
(32:31):
learn how, like laws andregulations might be affecting
them.
So, yeah, want to just be thatspace and know that we're here
and if people do need theproducts, we have those for them
too.
But, like, we offer a lot morethan just our products yeah, and
what would you say?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
like the price, the price range of your products are
?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
yeah, we are like lower than kind of your like top
tier brands that you see in thein cvs and and walgreens.
Um so somewhere between likethere and the like conventional
stuff that you see so like lessthan plan b, for example.
You're always going to be moreaffordable than a plan b okay,
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and accessibility is like a bigpart of our mission as well.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
We want to make sure we're making the best possible
quality product for the bestpossible price yeah, okay, and
then are you able to tell us,like some of the retailers, that
you are currently um?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
your products are available in yeah, so, um, we're
in some regional grocery storesright now giant.
We have another one launchingin a couple months, but I can't
say the name yet.
But I'll just say, if you're innew england, keep your eyes out
.
Um, we also sell on gopuff onDoorDash, on FSA Store, like a
bunch of online places and morenews to come.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Super fucking cool ladies.
Okay, I just have to ask so,when you guys were coworkers and
chilling in 2019 and coming upwith all these ideas, like, did
you ever dream of it gettingthis big?
Have y'all had a few momentswhere you're like look at each
other and you're like, holyfucking shit, what like this is
(34:12):
happening?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
yes, um, I like it's a quick answer.
Yes, we have those moments allthe time.
Yeah, yeah we did have one thismorning.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
But I think when we were starting it like I honestly
like didn't even think far outenough to imagine the size it
would be.
Like we were just so excited bythe idea and we moved so
quickly.
I mean, now it's six years.
It doesn't sound that quick,but at the time it was very like
we were just one foot in frontof the other the whole way
through.
So I think we did not eventhink about what it might look
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like in 2025.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I love that, though, and there's a lesson in that,
like in general, you know,people are trying so hard to
like rush through life and getto that goalpost and then move
the goalpost, but it's like thatright there, six years zip by.
I had a moment like this in oneof my last interviews, and she
was like was Thanksgiving a weekbefore Thanksgiving, you know,
in 2019, when I got let go frommy marketing position, she's
(35:20):
like oh my god, happy five years.
I was like what?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
and it does, it gets by it's like what.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So oh yeah, I'm excited for y'all, super excited
.
I can't wait to see.
If six years went by, like whatwas 10 gonna?
Oh shit, especially when y'allbecome mamas.
Do y'all plan on having babies?
Personal question, but I'mcurious.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I definitely want kids.
I love kids.
I'm single right now, so youknow we'll see, but that's the
plan.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, take your time.
They're a lot of work.
But some of us I just askbecause some people just like
you just know, and but some ofus I just ask because some
people just like you just know,and some people just know they
don't want kids, and I'm like,yeah, I respect that
tremendously.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
it sounds like a kind of nice life, um and I don't
know, I think so eventually, butI do not feel ready.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, now you said you're how old, like 30, what?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
31, 30, oh yeah like maybe it's like 10 years yeah,
why not?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
why not?
They say, have like I don'tknow, it's a down, it's a
southern thing.
I think it's their way ofgetting you to stay with one man
.
But they say, have them whenyou're young, and now that I'm
older, I'm just like 40 soundslike a good age to start because
, like that's when you hopefullyhave your shit together and,
yeah, more patience in myopinion.
But well, y'all, it has beensuper cool talking to both of
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you.
I never would have guessed thateither of you were in your 30s
thank you at all of my day.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
What'd you say?
It's a highlight of my day.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Isn't that a good feeling, though, like I don't
know, I still I get like cardedit's really funny Like for a
knife hole and shit, and I'mlike ask me again, please, but
oh, I'm sorry I got sidetracked.
Tell everybody where to findyou as far as like website,
(37:17):
instagram, social media.
We know a little bit about thestores and we know to check out
all your things to stay updated,because you got updates coming
up.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Our website is winxhealthcom, that's W-I-N-X
health, and our Instagram handleis the same at Winx Health.
Tiktok is the same, but thatmight not be here when this
episode launches TBD, but yeah,we will.
You can find everything youneed to know about us on our
website.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Cool.
I have one more question andit's going to be silly and it
may come left field, but I don'tknow if y'all saw my stories
this morning yet, but I taggedyou and the whole for whatever
reason.
When I started reading thenotes about like your company
and whatnot, I had one mainquestion and that's is the
G-spot real?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Very much so.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That's all I need to know, Because I just you know,
some of us think it's a myth inour minds.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Well, it's actually the other side of the clitoris,
so, like the clitoris like, ifyou look at a photo of it, it's
kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Trying to think in myself how.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And the G spot is like the roots of it, but like
from the other side she saidroots, writing that down.
I mean I don't know if root isthe anatomically correct term.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I know it may not be, but my brain will remember that
.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, she said I'm pretty sure I'll go fact
check.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, you can fact check me on that.
As soon as I said it, I waslike wait, should I?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I'm pretty sure, yeah , I love it, I love it.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I just needed a simple yes or no from somebody
that that's your real okay, well, I'm gonna go find it.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Okay, I googled it, jame.
It says it's part of theclitoral network.
Is the?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
yeah, no, it's like it's like basically reaching
another, putting pressure onanother side of your clitoris.
Yeah, interesting, I got, myhand is doing this I was doing
this, whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, that's kind of like what it's like.
That's how my mind perceives itbeing in there and like maybe
that'll help me now.
Okay, yeah, then go do someresearch.
All right, y'all have been sowonderful.
Thank you for making sex notweird.
You know, I think that's a bigthing, that a lot of us and,
like I, was saying, the dirtythirties.
(39:49):
It took me to my thirties toget comfortable with all that,
and so I think that what youladies are doing is amazing.
Thank you.
Providing that platform and thatresource you ladies are doing
is amazing.
Thank you, providing thatplatform and that resource where
they are already, where theyoung people are, because there
are so many people that don'thave those kinds of
relationships with their parentsor or just don't have maybe
(40:09):
don't have family at all, andit's like, where do you go?
And it does seem like and I'mlearning this too like to meet,
meet your people where they are,and I never would have thought
about TikTok being somewherethat people even search for that
.
So keep it up, ladies.
I can't wait to see where, like, the next six years take you,
and I hope that when you havesomething big, that you think of
(40:31):
me and you let me know, becauseI would love to like, do a
where are you going to be in ain a few years type episode, but
this is so cool.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
And we'll be ready for it.
You know this was so fun, thankyou Good, and y'all aren't mad
at me for saying pussy.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Okay, I'm over here secretly.
I'm over here.
This is the church girl I'mlike is that okay to say that?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I have no issue If you said neck regions or down
there.
I'd be like girl stop.
But pussy is totally fine.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
There is also like nothing off limits.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah, and I have to remind myself this is my fucking
show.
Why didn't you want to say it.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, you tell us Well we.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, you tell us what we can and can't say Okay,
last thing, have you heard itcalled downstairs mix-up?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Ugh no, I've never heard that before.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
It's bad, it's so bad Like poor Elise is like please
get off now.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Oh my god, downstairs mix-up.
That's deeply upsetting.
Oh, she's trying to talk withyou.
Oh, we still can't hear you atleast, or at least.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Well, oh my god, but it was from.
It's from something called umold greg.
If you look that up on youtube,that'll be a better reference,
um, and it may make you laugh,but it's, it's a terrible,
terrible reference.
So, anyway, well, okay, it'sfrom like when youtube was
coming to a thing and it's likewhen people were posting the
most ridiculous shit.
(42:06):
Yeah, that was one of thosethings.
So, anyway, enjoy.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well, it's so great to meet you.
Yeah, so great to meet you yeah, y'all too, and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
At least we'll catch up sometime, all right, thank
you so much.
Yeah, you too, of course.
Bye, bye.
I think also like because people are searching on
TikTok and YouTube and becausethose are like for-profit media
companies that sell products,like you know, gen Z, 85% of Gen
Z.
I think it is like searches fortheir answers to their
questions on TikTok andtherefore like learns about new
products I get so many TikTokads for, like a gummy that is
(00:23):
supposed to make your vaginasmell like pineapple.
What the fuck, straight up,like it's a pineapple gummy and
it's like all these girls beinglike my boyfriend can't get
enough of my vagina.
He says it tastes likepineapple and I'm like, oh my
God.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, you're
listening to Just Women TalkingShit with your host, Jacqueline
Cotton.
Jacqueline Cotton.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, hey, ladies, how are you?
I'm doing super well.
How are y'all Doing great?
Excited to be here?
Good, I'm really excited,really excited.
I can't wait to hear all thethings, okay, especially when it
comes to sex health.
I'm very interested in that.
(01:20):
I'm in my dirty 30s, okay, soIs that a thing that people say?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Did you not know that ?
What Cause same?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh my God, yeah, apparently that's a thing and I
didn't know it was a thing.
Is Elise going to be talking atall?
No, okay, she's just, she'sjust hanging out, cool.
No, okay, she's just, she'sjust hanging out, cool, all
right.
Well, um, I just go, I wentahead and hit record.
I'm very just candid with myinterviews.
I don't know if y'all have hadthe chance to listen to anything
yet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, okay.
(01:55):
And then, um, so there's,there's no seriously, there's no
like formal questions.
It's just going to be supernatural.
We'll see where conversationtakes us, right, and I kind of
just want to get to know aboutyour company, about, like, how
it started and everything, andabout you all and your stories
and how you got here, and justlike I think about it is if we
(02:18):
were just sitting down havingsome tea or some coffee and
we're getting to know each otherlike a little friend, bumble,
date or something, and I askedlike, oh my god, tell me all
about you.
That's how it's gonna be.
So amazing, no pressure, nopressure at all.
But if we could, now that Ihave, um, just talked and talked
already, if you could tell meyour names and then a little bit
(02:40):
about, like this company.
It's Winx, right, winx held,okay, um, and just how, how we
kind of got here.
I know that you shifted, it wasa different company name, right
, um.
And just a little bit about you, like, how did this all come
together?
Because it it typically juststarts as like this I got an
idea and then you either executeor you don't, and bam y, y'all
(03:03):
executed.
So I can't wait to hear aboutit.
Whoever wants to go first?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh sure, I'll kick off.
Yeah, so Cynthia and I startedworking together in 2019.
We had been colleagues Well, weactually started working
together way earlier, in 2015,but we started working on the
business that is today, winx, in2019.
We were co-workers at the timeand we were at a startup and the
(03:31):
founders were two men in theirtwenties.
Like you know, we were allaround the same age and it was a
very 10 or dude bros, dependingon how you want to call them.
I would say yeah yeah, we werelike all at the time working at
this company, like 23 through 27.
Like you know, there are under10 of us and Cynthia and I
(03:54):
became like work besties and wewould often talk about starting
something of ourselves.
You know, we were like if theycan do it, we can probably do it
too.
Um, and Cynthia was.
We were always interested inwomen's health Like we just love
talking about, like women'shealth and sexual health and sex
(04:15):
ed and like all that stuff asfriends.
Um, and one day Cynthia wasbuying a pregnancy test with the
drug store and she ran into herex-boyfriend's mom which she
can elaborate on.
But basically she called me andwe were like we're just ranting
and raving about how we bothhave had really bad experiences
(04:35):
buying these products.
Not just, like you know, theexperience of walking down the
aisle and picking up theproducts, but like taking them
was confusing, the pricing wasconfusing, we never knew what
was going on with our vaginalhealth or sexual health.
So basically like that kind ofsnowballed into where we are
today.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's been six years, which is insane to think about.
It hurts my brain sometimes tosay that number, but it's been
so cool how much the brand hasevolved as we've learned a ton
from our community and ourcustomers.
Like we started with apregnancy test and now you know
Jamie keeps saying sexual andsexual, vaginal and reproductive
(05:18):
health.
We have this big focus and bigdreams and it's been amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
My hands are cold so it takes me a second to tap the
screen and be able to feel whatI'm doing.
Okay, so that is super cool andthe whole.
I mean that I guess I've neverreally stopped and thought about
that.
So I'm in the Bible Belt,because you couldn't tell by
this ridiculous accent.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's adorable.
I don't know what you'retalking about.
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But, like, sex has always been super, super,
fucking taboo.
Like, yeah, just for a littlestory, okay, just to show how
taboo it is.
Um, I remember, and this isactually pretty terrible, but
thinking about the shame and thetrauma and like the whole
experience of something sonatural, this is literally how
(06:07):
we all fucking got here.
Y'all Like, why are we so?
Why are people so weird aboutit?
But I lost my virginity at 15and I trusted my mom with that
information because she had ashit ton of kids and I was like,
okay, I really don't want towind up like her, like I want to
plan this shit out right.
And I remember telling her andI was like, so I felt like I had
(06:28):
become a woman, you know.
And she always told me tell mewhen you do that we want to make
sure that, like you know,you're protected and doing it
right.
And I did.
And the next thing, I knewy'all, I'm not even shitting you
sermon at church guess what itwas about?
Abstinence of abstinence, uh,burning in hell, the fiery pits
(06:52):
of hell, sex before marriage,all the fucking things.
This sounds made up.
No, this sounds like some shitout of a movie.
No, no, that that happened andI remember feeling the shame and
the weight of the wholecongregation on me and so like
down South, like whether it'sSouthern Baptist, pentecostal,
whatever, like a thing that theydo, and I don't identify with
(07:15):
the church anymore.
But the thing that they do isthey like at the end of the
sermon or if you're feeling ledor you've got sins you need to
repent for, you go to the altarright.
And here's the thing is, likeI'm telling you, these people
love the attention of liketalking in tongues and stuff
like that, not trying to.
This is my personal experience.
What I mean by that is likeeverybody was at the altar on
(07:40):
Sundays, but not that Sunday.
Everybody waited for me to goand it was the most oh my God,
talk about shame.
So when I talk, when I talk nowabout like I'm in my dirty 30s
and I'm owning it, it's becauseI didn't like start even
enjoying sex or talking aboutsex or even know what to do
about sex.
Until I was in my 30s, until Istarted seeking answers and
(08:01):
having interviews with peoplelike you, I didn't even know
like what the like, like whatthe actual vagina is Like.
I didn't know all the parts,the labia, I didn't know any of
that.
So when I'm like talking aboutmy vag, I'm thinking it's like
the whole, like yeah, it's just,it's just that's what it is,
but like there are parts of it.
(08:21):
So this is super cool and I'dlike I asked the backstory,
because it usually is somethinglike that was a personal
experience.
So I'm curious like how didthat?
How did that feel, cynthia?
Were you like humiliated?
Were you like what were thefeelings and things going
through your head?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well, okay, before I answer that, I just want to say
that like I'm so sorry that youhad that experience and that
sounds so traumatizing.
Thank you so much.
And like to your point about itbeing like it's both so
personal and also so universal,like our experiences around our
bodies and sex, right, likeeveryone's body is different and
everyone's life and childhoodis different.
(08:59):
But like also, everybody hassex and we all got here, most
likely, more likely than not,because of sex, or at least sex
was some bit a part of it, right.
And so like, yeah, the shamearound it is awful, but anyway,
my experience yeah, I mean itwas it was awful.
I cried Right, like that's thequickest way to sum it up it was
(09:20):
awful.
We were I was still with the exat the time and his mom was
excited, so it could have beenworse.
But I mean I literally like ranout of the store like I handled
it Definitely not maturely anddefinitely not responsibly.
Like ran out of the store LikeI handled it definitely not
maturely and definitely notresponsibly.
And I still get embarrassedwhen I talk about it and it's so
interesting.
Like Jamie, I don't even knowif you have this experience, but
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starting this business hastotally changed, not just the
way I talk about sex or my bodywith friends, but the
conversations my family hasaround things too.
Like it's been reallyfascinating, like how much just
doing this work has totallychanged, like the way that I get
to talk about this stuff in theworld it's cool.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, and going off of that, like these are two
stories.
I mean, you and Cynthia and Iall grew up in different areas
of the country.
All had access to reallydifferent conversations around
sex and sex ed and religion.
And like, no matter where youcome from or what kind of
upbringing you are brought upwith, like there is so much
(10:21):
shame and mystery around sex inour bodies.
Like it's not just like youknow, growing up in an extreme
religious environment, you don'tget access to that.
It's like you could grow up inthe most liberal neighborhood
with sex ed in your school andstill there's like just such
little conversation about it.
(10:42):
So that was like really, youknow we've learned so much more
about that since starting thebusiness, but that's why
community and sex education islike the at the center of our
brand.
You know 33 states, I think itis don't require sex ed to be
medically accurate.
Um, and like when you weresaying you didn't know about
(11:03):
like uh, you know the vulva andthe vagina and all the different
parts.
Like that's so, so common.
So it is just like a really,yeah, I think by working in this
field, we have so much moreaccess to conversations around
this.
And, like Cynthia was saying,like now, I mean even still,
like I'm in my 30s as well, likeI get friends texting me every
(11:25):
time they go to the gynecologistwith a question, or like you
know, if they asking the sideeffects of plan b or something
like that, and like I'm not, youknow, a doctor.
But that's why we create theselike medically verified
resources.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And also like why we share so many personal stories
and love hearing other people'spersonal stories because I think
that's so connecting, and soyou know, a lot of what we do is
sharing, like Jamie said,medically accurate, verified
information honestly, and alsolegally accurate, verified
information, which now is supercritical as we're understanding
and taking control of our bodiesbut also sharing people's
(12:00):
stories and sharing our ownstories, because I think that is
what can make people feel safeand connected and like able to
have conversations like this.
Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Beautiful.
You said okay, jamie, you're inyour thirties, cynthia.
I have to ask what are?
How old are you?
Um, yes, in your 30s, cynthia.
I have to ask what are?
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
um?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
yes, no, just kidding , I'm 32 for some reason I felt
like I was so much older thanyou guys and it makes me wonder,
I don't know.
Just it's so hard to guess agesthese days, like I don't know
if you've noticed, butespecially talking about sex and
whatnot and probably beingexposed to a lot of younger
women, like young women, andanyway they just skip over the
(12:39):
ugly phase entirely now and turninto full-grown women, and so
I'm just sometimes I think I'mtalking like a grown-ass woman
and she's like oh, 12.
I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
100% I love those TikToks that are like me and my
friends in middle school andit's like, yeah, like doing
coordinated dances to like youknow.
And then it's like versusmiddle schoolers today and they
look like they're like 25supermodels.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, I was covered in pimples with like crazy socks
and looking like pippy longstockings and like just yeah,
recording songs and thenspending five hours writing
lyrics and then we come up withdances.
No, there was nothing about us,that was.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
We had a lot more free time without like having
the internet in our pocket.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So yeah, our imaginations Less pressure, you
know yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh, my God.
Yeah, the pressure wasdifferent, though it was like a
different kind of pressurebecause I remember I thought
about that and I've thoughtabout this a lot, because I get
so pissed with my kids that theyfeel they need like the devices
in front of them all the time.
So I'm very, I'm very like Iwant to get back to nature.
The whole reason I'm building acompany is I can make a shit
(13:49):
ton of money doing what I lovebuy a bunch of land, wake up
with chickens like I want to beable to have all this money so I
can unplug, but still, like,change the world, and so my kids
are kind of it's.
Thank you so much.
That's probably the southern inme, I don't know.
But um, well, I just I'msurrounded well, not right now,
(14:10):
but like there's a lot of cowsand I'm just, I guess, used to
the farmland, but I've never gotto own any Shit.
Where was I?
Oh, the kids, though.
So, like I want to get back tothe basics.
My husband is very like ifthey're getting, we're just
different in that way.
I'm more so like, oh, let's geta coloring book or let's go
outside and I don't know, go andlook in the grass and see if we
(14:30):
can find a new ecosystem typething, and he's like, oh, but
here's the phone.
So it's very I have these mixedfeelings.
But I thought about it and Iwas like, well, like I get so
angry at my kids and, like youknow, we say silly stuff, like
we didn't come home until it wasgetting dark outside.
That's when we know it was timeto come home, stuff like that.
Then I think about the pressure.
(14:51):
What was our pressure?
And I remember do you remember?
Like tabloids.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And the magazines, and so it was like a different
kind of pressure.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think like it all is just adapting.
Like I remember begging formore time in front of the TV and
like my parents being resistantto that, but now it's like when
kids have iPads, it's just a'sjust a different.
Like at least we didn't havecontrol over what we were
watching and there werecommercials and we all had to
(15:20):
watch the same thing.
Now it's like, you know, justendless content, um and control.
But I mean it will it willtranslate, it'll be interesting.
I don't know how old your kidsare and Cynthia and I don't have
kids but, um, like I'm just sofascinated by like middle school
aged and high school agedteenagers, like in this
(15:43):
environment as it relates to sex, ed, and like healthy
conversations about sex andaccess to porn, like I just
think it's so uncharted waters.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yes, okay.
So okay, you know how I said inthe beginning, we're just going
to let this play.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
We're just going to wing it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
That's what we need to talk about, because I'm so.
So my daughter's turning 12.
She's got her period, she is.
So she's in middle school,sixth grade.
I took her out of school onMonday because of her mental
health, because she's gettingpicked on.
She's hit puberty very early.
She looks like she's one.
She's taller than me.
This girl's got more curvesthan like this.
(16:20):
She's decked out like a woman,okay, and and then her, her dad
passed in 2020 over the pandemicand like so it's all these
things.
Her mental health is like theutmost important importance to
me right now.
Right, so took her out ofschool now.
So I took her out of school Now, before I took her out of
school, we had had some likemishaps where something as
simple as like fucking Robloxturned into.
(16:44):
Let's just say it ended with metaking a hammer to her phone
because I was so angry.
It wasn't my finest moment, butit made me realize how
accessible this stuff is.
So she's not one that, like,sits and looks at porn.
I know she's gotten curious andshe asks me and she asks about
her body, and she knows that Iwill.
We have that kind ofrelationship, but what got me
was that kids are even like onRoblox, having virtual sex,
(17:10):
bumping blocks and stuff.
I'm like what?
I'm like, my little, my littlegirl's doing stuff like this,
has no idea what she's actuallysaying, what it means, none of
that.
And then I'm just glad that wefound it so I could like have a
conversation with her around sexand how it's actually sacred
and important and it'sempowering.
But like you don't give it toeverybody.
(17:30):
You know what I mean.
But like it goes back to thatwhole social media thing,
because she compares, so she hasno access to social media.
She cannot watch YouTube shorts, none of that.
The only thing she can have arelike creative outlets, so like,
and even CapCut I'm kind ofweird about, because there's
templates and so she gets to seewhat other women look like and
how beautiful they are.
(17:51):
And but like, what is yourstance on that?
The whole social media.
And like you were talking aboutporn.
I know here in Mississippi Imean I'm not gonna lie, I like
look a little porn.
Okay, I found out real quickthat is not allowed in
Mississippi right now unlessyou're over the age of 18 and
willing to put some informationin.
So I found a re, uh, aworkaround, but like yeah, yeah,
(18:11):
oh I didn know that I just wentto a different website.
I don't want there to be anyshame around that and I'm super
up with my kids that like okay,yeah, you're gonna be super
curious, do that kind of stuffin your bedroom.
But like, what's your, what'syour take on the whole social
media thing?
Because it's got it's got me asa parent mind fucked and I'm
(18:33):
like what are they?
What are I don't know?
It's kind of scary and there'slike the whole perversion aspect
of it too and how unsafe it isthe information the people out
there preying on the children,like it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, it's so scary.
I mean, first of all, we don'thave kids and so like I feel
like that's so important to know, because it's easier in some
ways, I think, for us to thinkabout it or talk about it,
because there's not that weightof actually having our own
children right now.
Like that's intense.
I think that's like everything,like there's an immense power
which can be used for good orfor evil.
(19:07):
But when young people arelooking for information on their
health, they literally start onTikTok, like we probably Google
, and end up on WebMD.
But young people go to TikTokor YouTube first without fail.
That can be really empoweringbecause there is some amazing
content.
Like we make a ton of reallygreat content.
That is like better designedfor a young person's ears or
(19:31):
better designed around a woman'sbody than a lot of what we'll
see.
You know, if you Google, if youlook at the Google results of
something or like is less fearmongering than a web MD.
But there's also a ton ofinformation and changing like
policies from Facebook meta thatit's going to make this way way
, way more dangerous, becausethey're getting rid of content
(19:54):
moderation and they're gettingrid of fact checking.
So it's got.
There's going to be more andmore misinformation.
I mean, I think that one of themost important things that we
have to teach young people ishow to understand tell like
truth from fiction, how tounderstand what is real and what
is not, how to checkinformation and do your own
research to validate things.
Because we can't control socialmedia, I mean, we'll see what
(20:17):
happens with TikTok.
Maybe that'll go away, buteveryone is flocking to that new
app that, jamie, you wereplaying on the other day, like
we have no way of actuallycontrolling it.
So we have to arm ourselves tohandle it as best as we can and
arm the generation.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
And I think you and again, like we don't have
children and that's what scaresme most about having children is
like what happens when they'reteenagers and they have all this
access to stuff that, like Ididn't have access to.
But I think you had the answer,jacqueline, when you were
saying, like I, I told my, mydaughter knows that she can come
to me and she knows, to talkabout things relating to her
(20:52):
body and sex, and like justhaving those conversations seems
like the most important thing,you know, like knowing that
there's a safe, trusted adultthat they can come to and be
open with.
Because I feel like what is themost hindering and like
developmentally scary to me islike all of the shame and
secrets around sex, like and andour bodies and and health.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Like you know, the secrets are what really scares
me and like, if you think aboutyour story, like you did talk to
somebody but they handled itterribly.
And, jame, I know you like hadkind of open open conversations
as a kid.
I remember like I told my momthe first time I had my I know
you like had kind of openconversations as a kid.
I remember like I told my momthe first time I had my first
kiss and she like had my coolaunt pull me aside at a family
party to like give me a talk andlike that was humiliating not
(21:37):
nearly as bad as your experiencebut like I never talked to my
mom honestly about anythingrelated to like boys or sex.
Really, from there, that was soembarrassing.
So yeah, having safe space.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, and I didn't talk to my mom about that stuff
Like I I knew I guess I couldhave, but I never did.
Like when I got my firstboyfriend she asked me if I
needed to be on birth controland I was like no and she was
like okay, like that was kind ofit, like that was kind of it,
(22:11):
but I just think hopefully, withthis generation and having
millennial parents, millennialsturning into parents, gen Z
turning into parents, there willbe much more of a like
vocabulary around this, thesetopics and, and hopefully, some
regulations and like guidelines.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I don't know if you run into that at all, but it's
all very confusing, like from aparent's perspective.
But it's interesting to hearyour perspective because I feel
like with you not having kids,you're not as on guard, so you
probably see a lot more than Ido.
You know like, and in yourindustry you're probably exposed
to more content like that.
So when you say that people aregoing to TikTok, that young
(22:48):
people are going to TikToklooking for answers when it
comes to sexual health, vaginalhealth, all those things like
self-expression, you know allthose, what are like, what are
some of the things that they'researching for?
And is it coming in the form ofjust short form content?
Is it you're talking about?
Just like anybody and everybody?
So, like I'm a business coach,it's not regulated in the States
(23:12):
to be a coach at all, right, soI guess that's what makes it so
scary and we don't know if it'sfactual.
But what are some of the thingsthat you're noticing people are
searching for Right now?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
there's a ton of people asking questions around
how can I control myreproductive health?
So like, okay, newadministration, a lot of scary
regulation.
I mean you live in Mississippi,you know a lot of lack of
access to critical healthcare,like abortion, so we see people
all the time searching like whatis plan B, how do I prevent
(23:44):
pregnancy, like birth controlright, like putting in those
sorts of things, and you couldend up with a great doctor
giving you information.
You could end up on Winx's pagewhere we try to have a big
sister vibe when it comes tothose resources.
You could also end up in a lotof really scary places too.
(24:05):
Maybe don't directly, you know,give sermons on a sunday about
shame around sex, but could end.
You could end you up, could onecould take you there.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
We go to the right place I think also like because
people are searching on tiktokand youtube and because those
are like for-profit mediacompanies that sell products,
like you know, gen Z, 85% of GenZ.
I think it is like searches fortheir answers to their
questions on TikTok andtherefore like learns about new
products I get so many TikTokads for like a gummy that is
(24:39):
supposed to make your vaginasmell like pineapple.
What the fuck?
Straight up, like it's apineapple gummy.
And it's like all these girlsbeing like my boyfriend can't
get enough of my vagina.
He says it tastes likepineapple and I'm like, oh my
god, and I click into the likeTikTok shop of that page.
There are thousands of reviews,thousands.
(25:02):
So it's like you know, think ofthe percentage of people that
actually reviews like so manygirls, young girls, are buying
this product and it's teachingthem to be embarrassed or
ashamed of how their vaginasmells when realistically, like
your body shouldn't smell like apineapple.
You know that actually.
Like you know, by using scentedproducts or stuff like that,
(25:22):
there are adverse negativeeffects.
So that's really scary to meand it's really important to us
as a company.
Like we do not use languagelike that anywhere.
Like we don't call the vagina,anything but a vagina.
You know we don't do sense, wedon't do any like shameful
(25:43):
language.
I don't know.
It's just it's scary out there.
Yeah, like you were saying,it's unregulated and anyone can
make a product for anything.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So you just said something and you said we don't
call it anything other than avagina.
What is your?
I just have to ask, because Iliterally just said pineapple
before I knew you were okay.
Okay, I don't want to embarrassmyself and say it again, but
like that seems seems to be a,and it's always kind of nerved
(26:09):
me, but like I remember as acoach a few years back like the
p-word was such a empoweringword like pussy that like the
whole feminine flow and like runyour business from the feminine
, like from your that, so thatto like I don't know, I don't
(26:30):
know what that's about, but whatare your thoughts on that you
talking about?
we don't say anything other likewhat it is.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean for us, because we're a health product
and and these are, like you know, fda regulated um
pharmaceutical.
Some of our products arepharmaceuticals like and all of
our content is medicallyverified.
Like we want to use anatomicallanguage.
But like, if you love, like youknow, if you find it empowering
(27:00):
and I remember the in theWomen's March with the pussy
hats and like all of that Ifthat's empowering to you, by all
means means.
We just want it to be reallyclear that we are like a
medically accurate hub yesbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I also like, personally, pussy vag.
I feel like those all are nothiding away from what it is.
I hate when people use likeflower euphemisms like flower or
like peach, I don't know, likewhat.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I'm not her peach y'all did you notice how I was
having a hard time even sayingthat word?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
yeah, no it's.
I mean, it's like so ingrainedin us to just be like around it.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, okay.
So with the whole medical thing, tell me more about the company
, like.
What is the mission, what arelike services, products, all
those kinds of things.
How are you, besides theinformation you're putting out
there, and like the resources?
What does Winx look like?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
So our mission is to empower confident health
decisions and that's been ourmission since day one.
So we like to say we're asexual and vaginal health hub
with the products and educationyou need to make confident
health decisions.
So we offer over-the-counterproducts like pregnancy tests,
UTI tests, yeast infection tests, the morning after pill, and we
(28:30):
also have our tests areconnected to telehealth so you
can like get your treatment foryour UTI once you take the test
and we right now you canpurchase our products on our
site.
We're also in a number ofretail locations.
We're in grocery stores.
We're hoping to launch intomore retailers this year, so
(28:51):
that is like the product side ofwhat we do.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Now I was going to ask.
So, going back to your story,cynthia, in the beginning you
were talking about, you know,walking down the aisle and the
whole experience and the like,because there is this instant
stigma and shame around that.
Oh, I've got to go get a.
You know, for us it's like I'mnot married and premarital sex
and all the shame of how we'resupposed to do it.
Like this test we're supposedto do it in.
(29:14):
I'm curious, like, what makesWinx different, because you
mentioned that you're in storestoo.
So do you guys do the wholetelehealth thing?
Are they able to get what theyneed sent through the mail or?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
tell me about that.
There's a million answers tothat.
And that starts with everymoment around the brand, right?
Um, we do.
Yeah, we are in retail.
I mean, we started mostlyonline because of you know our
experiences.
But the truth is like womenstill want to buy these products
, largely in store today, and wewant to be where they are.
So that's why we do that.
(29:50):
But you'll even notice if youput our package next to, let's
say, azo, which is the big UTIbrand, our products.
Again, they don't have anyfluff around them.
We tell you exactly what it is,the goal being that you get in
that aisle and you get out.
You go there, you know exactlywhat you need, you can find it
quickly.
It's not confusing.
(30:11):
We kind of remove that in thatexperience to help you move
through it confidently.
And then the telehealth pieceis really cool too.
So Jamie mentioned all of ourtests.
You're actually able to take apicture of them.
We tell you what it is so likeyes, you have a UTI.
No, it's not BV, whatever thatmight look like and then can
connect you to a doctor to getprescription treatment.
(30:34):
That part all happens online,so you don't actually have to go
to urgent care, your primarycare doctor.
I have used it before.
I love it.
Yeah, we were, jamie and I wereat meetings in Chicago and I
had my first ever yeastinfection and I used our product
.
It was awesome, um and um, yeah.
So, and then you can pick it up, mostly in a local pharmacy,
(30:56):
although there are someopportunities for other things
cool.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, this sounds so cool because I.
So what I'm gathering is likeyou're're the reason, first off,
they find you the information,the education and there's no
fluff Then.
So what I'm gathering is is,because it's such a like
sensitive process I mean theyeast infection, the you know
UTIs, like all of it's superuncomfortable, right, and then
(31:22):
having to like I don't want towalk up to a man especially and
be like, so you know, is thiswhat I need?
So you're telling me that likeit's kind of you're educating
people and then they, they knowexactly, like they don't have to
go and talk to anybody, it'sgoing to be easy to find and,
okay, we give them control overtheir health.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's what we want to do.
We give them control over theirhealth.
That's what we want to do.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
That's beautiful.
I love this.
I love this.
Didn't know that people weresearching for information on
TikTok about stuff like this,but that is super, yeah,
interesting, interesting ingeneral.
So, jamie, what you got for me.
You got any words of wisdom?
Any final thoughts?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
what you got for me?
You got any words of wisdom,any final thoughts?
Um, just that.
We are like constantly puttingout new information about
vaginal and reproductive healthand sexual health, and
especially this year, the yearof 2025.
We want to be like a safe spacefor women and girls and anyone
who's interested to like learnabout their bodies and also
(32:31):
learn how, like laws andregulations might be affecting
them.
So, yeah, want to just be thatspace and know that we're here
and if people do need theproducts, we have those for them
too.
But, like, we offer a lot morethan just our products yeah, and
what would you say?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
like the price, the price range of your products are
?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
yeah, we are like lower than kind of your like top
tier brands that you see in thein cvs and and walgreens.
Um so somewhere between likethere and the like conventional
stuff that you see so like lessthan plan b, for example.
You're always going to be moreaffordable than a plan b okay,
(33:13):
and accessibility is like a bigpart of our mission as well.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
We want to make sure we're making the best possible
quality product for the bestpossible price yeah, okay, and
then are you able to tell us,like some of the retailers, that
you are currently um?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
your products are available in yeah, so, um, we're
in some regional grocery storesright now giant.
We have another one launchingin a couple months, but I can't
say the name yet.
But I'll just say, if you're innew england, keep your eyes out
.
Um, we also sell on gopuff onDoorDash, on FSA Store, like a
bunch of online places and morenews to come.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Super fucking cool ladies.
Okay, I just have to ask so,when you guys were coworkers and
chilling in 2019 and coming upwith all these ideas, like, did
you ever dream of it gettingthis big?
Have y'all had a few momentswhere you're like look at each
other and you're like, holyfucking shit, what like this is
(34:12):
happening?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
yes, um, I like it's a quick answer.
Yes, we have those moments allthe time.
Yeah, yeah we did have one thismorning.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
But I think when we were starting it like I honestly
like didn't even think far outenough to imagine the size it
would be.
Like we were just so excited bythe idea and we moved so
quickly.
I mean, now it's six years.
It doesn't sound that quick,but at the time it was very like
we were just one foot in frontof the other the whole way
through.
So I think we did not eventhink about what it might look
(34:51):
like in 2025.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I love that, though, and there's a lesson in that,
like in general, you know,people are trying so hard to
like rush through life and getto that goalpost and then move
the goalpost, but it's like thatright there, six years zip by.
I had a moment like this in oneof my last interviews, and she
was like was Thanksgiving a weekbefore Thanksgiving, you know,
in 2019, when I got let go frommy marketing position, she's
(35:20):
like oh my god, happy five years.
I was like what?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
and it does, it gets by it's like what.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So oh yeah, I'm excited for y'all, super excited
.
I can't wait to see.
If six years went by, like whatwas 10 gonna?
Oh shit, especially when y'allbecome mamas.
Do y'all plan on having babies?
Personal question, but I'mcurious.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I definitely want kids.
I love kids.
I'm single right now, so youknow we'll see, but that's the
plan.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, take your time.
They're a lot of work.
But some of us I just askbecause some people just like
you just know, and but some ofus I just ask because some
people just like you just know,and some people just know they
don't want kids, and I'm like,yeah, I respect that
tremendously.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
it sounds like a kind of nice life, um and I don't
know, I think so eventually, butI do not feel ready.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, now you said you're how old, like 30, what?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
31, 30, oh yeah like maybe it's like 10 years yeah,
why not?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
why not?
They say, have like I don'tknow, it's a down, it's a
southern thing.
I think it's their way ofgetting you to stay with one man
.
But they say, have them whenyou're young, and now that I'm
older, I'm just like 40 soundslike a good age to start because
, like that's when you hopefullyhave your shit together and,
yeah, more patience in myopinion.
But well, y'all, it has beensuper cool talking to both of
(36:46):
you.
I never would have guessed thateither of you were in your 30s
thank you at all of my day.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
What'd you say?
It's a highlight of my day.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Isn't that a good feeling, though, like I don't
know, I still I get like cardedit's really funny Like for a
knife hole and shit, and I'mlike ask me again, please, but
oh, I'm sorry I got sidetracked.
Tell everybody where to findyou as far as like website,
(37:17):
instagram, social media.
We know a little bit about thestores and we know to check out
all your things to stay updated,because you got updates coming
up.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Our website is winxhealthcom, that's W-I-N-X
health, and our Instagram handleis the same at Winx Health.
Tiktok is the same, but thatmight not be here when this
episode launches TBD, but yeah,we will.
You can find everything youneed to know about us on our
website.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Cool.
I have one more question andit's going to be silly and it
may come left field, but I don'tknow if y'all saw my stories
this morning yet, but I taggedyou and the whole for whatever
reason.
When I started reading thenotes about like your company
and whatnot, I had one mainquestion and that's is the
G-spot real?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Very much so.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That's all I need to know, Because I just you know,
some of us think it's a myth inour minds.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Well, it's actually the other side of the clitoris,
so, like the clitoris like, ifyou look at a photo of it, it's
kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Trying to think in myself how.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And the G spot is like the roots of it, but like
from the other side she saidroots, writing that down.
I mean I don't know if root isthe anatomically correct term.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I know it may not be, but my brain will remember that
.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, she said I'm pretty sure I'll go fact
check.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, you can fact check me on that.
As soon as I said it, I waslike wait, should I?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I'm pretty sure, yeah , I love it, I love it.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I just needed a simple yes or no from somebody
that that's your real okay, well, I'm gonna go find it.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Okay, I googled it, jame.
It says it's part of theclitoral network.
Is the?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
yeah, no, it's like it's like basically reaching
another, putting pressure onanother side of your clitoris.
Yeah, interesting, I got, myhand is doing this I was doing
this, whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, that's kind of like what it's like.
That's how my mind perceives itbeing in there and like maybe
that'll help me now.
Okay, yeah, then go do someresearch.
All right, y'all have been sowonderful.
Thank you for making sex notweird.
You know, I think that's a bigthing, that a lot of us and,
like I, was saying, the dirtythirties.
(39:49):
It took me to my thirties toget comfortable with all that,
and so I think that what youladies are doing is amazing.
Thank you.
Providing that platform and thatresource you ladies are doing
is amazing.
Thank you, providing thatplatform and that resource where
they are already, where theyoung people are, because there
are so many people that don'thave those kinds of
relationships with their parentsor or just don't have maybe
(40:09):
don't have family at all, andit's like, where do you go?
And it does seem like and I'mlearning this too like to meet,
meet your people where they are,and I never would have thought
about TikTok being somewherethat people even search for that
.
So keep it up, ladies.
I can't wait to see where, like, the next six years take you,
and I hope that when you havesomething big, that you think of
(40:31):
me and you let me know, becauseI would love to like, do a
where are you going to be in ain a few years type episode, but
this is so cool.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
And we'll be ready for it.
You know this was so fun, thankyou Good, and y'all aren't mad
at me for saying pussy.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Okay, I'm over here secretly.
I'm over here.
This is the church girl I'mlike is that okay to say that?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I have no issue If you said neck regions or down
there.
I'd be like girl stop.
But pussy is totally fine.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
There is also like nothing off limits.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah, and I have to remind myself this is my fucking
show.
Why didn't you want to say it.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, you tell us Well we.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, you tell us what we can and can't say Okay,
last thing, have you heard itcalled downstairs mix-up?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Ugh no, I've never heard that before.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
It's bad, it's so bad Like poor Elise is like please
get off now.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Oh my god, downstairs mix-up.
That's deeply upsetting.
Oh, she's trying to talk withyou.
Oh, we still can't hear you atleast, or at least.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Well, oh my god, but it was from.
It's from something called umold greg.
If you look that up on youtube,that'll be a better reference,
um, and it may make you laugh,but it's, it's a terrible,
terrible reference.
So, anyway, well, okay, it'sfrom like when youtube was
coming to a thing and it's likewhen people were posting the
most ridiculous shit.
(42:06):
Yeah, that was one of thosethings.
So, anyway, enjoy.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well, it's so great to meet you.
Yeah, so great to meet you yeah, y'all too, and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
At least we'll catch up sometime, all right, thank
you so much.
Yeah, you too, of course.
Bye, bye.
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