I Am Free From Sin

On this Freedom Friday, we celebrated freedom from sin as we heard breakthrough stories from our listeners. We opened the phone lines and asked our listeners, “ What caused them to finally hate their sin enough to lean on God’s power and change it?” We heard some powerful testimonies of God’s saving grace. We then listened to a freedom story from Chris Preuss as he shared his testimony and a bit about Maranatha Bible Missionary Conference, Vacation and Retreat Center, also known as Maranatha Camp. Chris is the  Executive Director for Maranatha Camp. We were also joined by Greg Dempster, who briefly shared his story, discussing how God redeems us from the bondage of sin. Greg is the Founder and Director of ChristLife Ministries, equipping Christian leaders to confidently bring God’s healing and life to others. He is also a senior leader, elder, and ministry director. You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Listener Stories [00:10-27:15 ]

Chris Preuss Interview (Maranatha Camp, Michigan)  [ 27:21-38:10]

Greg Dempster Interview (ChristLife Ministries) [40:54-57:15 ]

Devotion [ 57:24- 01:03:06 ]

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Episode Transcript

S1 (00:00):
Coming to you from the Morning Star Mission sponsored studio.
This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

S2 (00:08):
It's a good day. It's Freedom Friday here with Carl
and crew, and we are going to have an absolute
outstanding day. I'm going to jump into the deep end
here today. Did you happen to catch Super Die? The
video of CEO Andy Byron getting caught on a jumbotron
snuggling up to his mistress at a Coldplay concert?

S3 (00:27):
Unfortunately, yes, I did see it over and over because
it's everywhere. It is everywhere.

S2 (00:33):
It is the. It is everywhere. It is all over
the place. And, uh, the guy, uh, you know, I
guess in some ways I can say poor guy. I mean,
he got busted out in front of the world. Boy,
you see their faces. Talk about the the. Your sins
will be shouted from the mountaintops. My goodness. I mean,

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they're up at the pinnacle at some, aren't they? Up
in some skybox or something at a Coldplay concert.

S3 (01:00):
That's exactly it. So kind of tucked away up high
away thinking, okay, you know, whatever, we're out of the
public sort of thing. And nope, on the big Tron,
there you go. And there they were.

S2 (01:11):
Yeah, it is. There's a there's a lot of commentary
going on around this right now, and it's due in
large part to the fact that, again, I don't know
all the details on this, and we're going to flip
this thing around on us here, but apparently she's an
HR director or something within the company that he's running.
And I was there a law passed like ten years

(01:33):
ago that says that you can't date within your company
or some crazy thing or not, it's not can't date.
But I think there's exploitation laws now.

S3 (01:42):
Within.

S2 (01:42):
For CEOs and leaders.

S3 (01:44):
Yeah, exactly.

S2 (01:45):
Different things like that. So it's there's a lot of
people with opinions on this left and right. Most people
are laughing about it. And I don't know that we
ought to laugh about it necessarily. What do you say?

S3 (01:57):
Super day? No, because there's some victims in this. If
it's if they're being caught, then that means there's spouses,
there's children and there's family. And you know, everybody's watching
this on social media. Maybe getting a good chuckle, like
you said in some respects. But my goodness, we're now
talking that two families are being torn apart. Yeah. And
they're going through some major grief right now.

S2 (02:21):
Yeah. It's we're real familiar with the statement love the sinner,
hate the sin. And it's easy to hate the sin
in other people's lives for sure. Their pride, their greed. Perversion. Idolatry. Yeah.
But the question is, do we apply the same principle
to our own lives? We're never going to take the

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drastic measures that it takes to put sin to death.
The stuff that's killing us until we come to hate
it as much as God does. So as long as
we ignore it and we excuse it, or use God's
grace as a safety net, or we try to hide it.
Maybe you've been in that boat this morning. Maybe you.

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Maybe you feel for Andy Byron and, uh, his mistress.
Maybe you feel for him because there's some part of
you that says, man, I'm glad my sins aren't being
found out this morning on a jumbotron.

S3 (03:19):
Right?

S2 (03:21):
But there's a lot of you, many of you, that
you finally got to the point where you hated your
sin enough to do something about it. What caused that?
That's what I want to know this morning on this
Freedom Friday, what caused you to finally hate your sin
enough to do something about it? And more accurately, to

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let God help you do something about it. Because we
gotta be fueled up by God. This is not our work.
And the three things I love to say related to
killing sin is humility before God, proximity to Jesus, and
the liberty that is found in the power of the
Holy Spirit. So we're going to open up phone lines

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here early today. We're going to get rolling this Freedom Friday.
We're going to get testimonies in here. And I'm asking
you to load up the phone lines right now. What
caused you to finally hate your sin enough to do
something about it? And you leaned on God's power. What
was it? What caused you to finally come to the

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end of your own sin? And I'm sure it didn't
land on a jumbotron, but it might have been public.
It might have been something that it's. This got my
turkey in a squisher. And Carl, it was all over.
I couldn't take it anymore. Give us a call right now. 800.

(04:50):
Give us a call right now. 800 555 7898 800
555 7898. We are going to load up the phone
lines this morning on this Freedom Friday, and we're going
to get after it. What caused you to finally hate
your sin enough that you said, God help me do

(05:13):
something about it? What caused you to finally hate your
sin enough where you said, God, help me do something
about it? 800 555 7898 give us a call right now.
Load up phone lines. We're going to go for it.
Freedom Friday. This is your show 805. 55, 78. 98.

(05:38):
This is Ben Fuller. Man, I was late to the game.
Seeing that video gave me a little pit in my
stomach for this guy. He's got a great opportunity right now.

S1 (05:51):
She was trying to earn her way to God. But
God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in
the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

S2 (06:01):
I had an interview with Ben Fuller. What was that
a week ago, week and a half ago. Yeah. Amazing
time with Ben Fuller. And if you did not hear
that conversation with Ben Fuller, that is reason enough to
get our show cast. No kidding. Amazing story. You talk
about a man that came face to face with his sin,

(06:22):
went to Nashville for the purpose of going into country music,
wasn't even born again in 2019, walked into a worship
auditorium of 3000 people and was smoked by the presence
of the Holy Spirit. The invitation came out to surrender
his life to Christ. He didn't walk down an aisle.
He didn't lift a hand in the air. He fell
to his face before God. And God began to change him.

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Went from 20 beers to ten to 8 to 2.
two got off cocaine for the first time in 14 years.
That's been Fuller's story. And if you've not heard that story,
grab our show cast. All you got to do is
look back about a week and a half and you'll
find it right there. And it is epic. In fact,
it's a week ago today. Is that right? Oh, I

(07:07):
think that's the case. Yeah, it was a week ago today.
So you just go back to last Friday's broadcast and
you'll see it right there. Oh my goodness. Text show
to 800 555 7898. Text show to 800 555 7898.
We got a question today, don't we, Ali?

S4 (07:27):
Yeah. This Freedom Friday, we're asking you what caused you
to finally hate your sin enough to ask God to
help you do something about it? 805 55 7898 what
caused you to finally get to that point where you
could hate it enough to do something about it? 800
555 7898.

S2 (07:45):
Scott in Cleveland, Ohio. What do you say, Scott?

S5 (07:49):
Good morning guys. Um, yeah, I, uh, in 2020, um,
was carrying a lot a lot of shame and guilt.
I was, um, caught up in infidelity and adultery towards
my wife, and just. My family was falling apart. I,
I didn't want to be here anymore. And I just
got to a place where I just convicted me to

(08:12):
tell her the truth, and I, um, I did it,
and it was, you know, knowing that I could lose everything,
and I. And I was probably going to and, um,
I wasn't going to call, but I just felt like, man, like,
if someone needs to hear, like, telling, telling her the
truth and admitting to what I had done freed me

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and my family of the shame and the shackles that
was that, that the devil had on me, man.

S2 (08:39):
Yeah. Scott, that takes a lot of courage to call in,
and I appreciate you doing this. What was it that
finally broke you? What is it? Because that it's easy
to live in the shadows, man. It is easy to
live there. What? What caused you to come out of
the shadows into the light and expose this?

S5 (08:59):
Um. Just, uh, the Lord just started stripping me, like,
exposing the idols in my life. And I was chasing
money and business, and, um, I'm telling you, like, everything
around me was crumbling, and I got to a place
where I was. I was a I was a hypocrite, man.
I was going to Bible studies. I couldn't like living

(09:20):
in the shadows. Exactly what I was doing. And and, um,
there's just a darkness that that begins to form in
your soul where you're anger. Everything just starts to compound. And,
I mean, I was in a really dark place and
becoming somebody that I didn't want to be. Man, I
I'm telling you, like it. Like I didn't want to

(09:40):
be here. Um, I couldn't even look in the mirror. And, uh. Yeah.

S2 (09:46):
That conviction of the Holy Spirit was just wrecking you,
wasn't it, bro?

S5 (09:52):
Yeah. Um, there was one thing that I think was
pivotal in this. You know, the heart transformation. And, like,
Romans 12 two, um, you know, like, there's there's two
types of wine. There's live commission, like what we say,
and then the lies of omission. And I was I
was completely oblivious to the omission of truth that I had, um,

(10:17):
been doing. And and that was, that was the conviction
that was like, you're never going to heal yourself, your past, everything,
because you've used this as a tool to self-protect and
self preserve in your identity with Christ. And it's time.
And I remember that the day will never be gone.

(10:38):
And I guess I called in because, um, infidelity is
more common than we'd like to think. And I do
share my testimony more, but I just felt like if
if there was someone out there that was in this place, man, like,
the best thing you can do is free yourself from
the shame and the guilt and just no matter the consequence,
because that God is going to is going to smile
down on you. And I just know it.

S2 (10:59):
Yeah. Scott, man you are. That's beautiful. And you are.
You are a rich man of faith today. And I
want to thank you so much for calling in Scott,
and I praise God for that. It's hard, isn't it,
when we're faced with sin and it can be anything.
But when we finally get to the point when we say,

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Oh God, by your power, would you put to death
this thing in me by the power of your spirit?
Romans 813 then you can live. Maybe you're hearing that
heartfelt cry to you today, and that's your story. Today
is the day. Fall to your knees. Go to a pastor.
Get some counsel and go make what has been so

(11:44):
wrong right again. And God can do it. Coming up,
we're taking more of your calls.

S1 (11:50):
You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't
take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.
It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

S2 (11:59):
It's Freedom Friday, and we're asking you to do some
major hard work and give us a call. We got
a question, don't we, Ali?

S4 (12:06):
We do Freedom Friday. What caused you to finally hate
your sin enough to ask God to help you do
something about it? You can hide it and you can
blame others. You have to get to that point where
you actually hate it enough to do something about it.
When did that happen for you? 855 five 7898.

S2 (12:24):
Lewis first time caller in Florida. What do you say, Lewis?

S5 (12:28):
Hey. Good morning. Um, alcohol.

S6 (12:31):
I was battling this thing. I'm 55, so I'm talking, like,
40 years, you know, I just accepted it because in
my culture, being born in Puerto Rico, you know, a
majority of us, it's just accepted. In our culture. We drink, um,
celebrating parties and all that. But for many years I

(12:51):
just cried out to the Lord. I was like, I
don't understand why. Why can't I stop, you know? And
not only that, uh, I also battled cocaine addiction in
my younger years, and that seemed to be, um, I
gave that up easily with the help of the Lord,
just reading Psalms every day. But this drinking, that was

(13:12):
something different, you know, I was just so used to it,
you know, get home, crack open a beer. Um, and finally,
I just, you know, the Lord helped me. One day,
pastor gave a sermon, and he said, we have the
the resurrection power of Jesus Christ living within us. So,
you know, as I often do, I cry out to

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the Lord. I was like, why can't I whip this?
Why can't I stop? You know, and like, three days
later or so, it just went away. You know, I
can't explain it. It's just a miracle. Yes, but I
encourage everybody, you know, just.

S2 (13:53):
Louis, we we just we we lost you there for
a second. Are you back with us, Louis?

S6 (13:58):
Yes.

S2 (13:59):
Gotcha. Go ahead.

S6 (14:01):
Uh, I just want to encourage everybody to keep persevering
because it's a struggle. But, you know, victory will happen.
You know, I for me, it was 40 years, and
I didn't understand why, but it did happen. And now
I've been, um, alcohol free since, uh, December 15th of
last year, and I don't I don't want it. I don't,

(14:23):
you know, when on vacation. I didn't need it. It's
just a miracle, you know?

S2 (14:28):
Yeah. Louis, that is a beautiful story. First time caller
from Florida. Thank you so much for calling in. And, uh,
what a powerful thing. And I think the powerful thing
about this testimony is that crying out to God, I
think some people underestimate the fact that the Spirit of
God that indwells us, and the power of the spirit
to do in us what we can't do in ourself

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is real. Now, that's not everybody's story, that there's a
miraculous deliverance. But maybe the miracle is a a group
of guys or a group of women that you get
together with. Maybe it's accountability structures around you to create
boundaries and barriers so that you can starve that sin

(15:10):
enough where God, by his grace, gives you freedom. But
these are beautiful stories.

S4 (15:16):
We want to hear yours as well. What caused you
to finally hate your sin enough to do something about it?
Or better yet, to let God help you do something
about it? 800 555 7898 [phone].

S1 (15:32):
98. She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.
Super die is in the crew. It's Carl and crew
on Moody Radio.

S2 (15:42):
Carl and crew. And on this Freedom Friday. God is
on the move. I got a question for you. What
caused you to finally hate your sin? Enough to ask
God to help you to do something about it? 800
555 7898. Taking your calls. Victoria in Chicago. What's your story, sister?

S7 (16:02):
Good morning. My story is, um, that when you said
the whole part, like, you know, if it's a lump
in your throat, I was like, maybe this isn't for
me because my story is kind of happy. Um, I
ended up seeking God. And the more I wanted to
feel his love and his presence, I started to realize

(16:25):
that I actually had a problem. And so it was
like a like, I don't know, like a secret infection.
And so I didn't realize it was an issue because,
you know, the worldly music I was listening to, it
was like, it's not bad, you know? And so maybe
I would fast once a week with my church. It
used to be Wednesdays, and I was on a praise

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team and a worship team. And so that's what we
would do. And the more I did it, and the
more I felt God's presence, the more it sort of
drew me out. And so then I realized this was wrong.
You know, this is not how you should live your life.
This is this is wrong and it offends God. And
then I felt the grieving of the Holy Spirit. And
I'm like, okay, so maybe I shouldn't do that again,
I feel awful. And so that's how God healed me.

S2 (17:10):
Yeah. That's a that's a moment, isn't it, Ali? When
we get hit by God for what is below the surface.

S4 (17:17):
Yeah. That conviction of man. I was okay with this,
but now I feel this conviction that didn't used to
be there. Maybe God's not okay with this, I love that.
Let's go to Savi. Calling in this morning from Florida. Savvy?
What caused you to finally hate your sin enough to
ask God to help you do something about it?

S8 (17:35):
Just seeing my family hurt. Seeing me disconnected from my family,
which is not something that should be. Um, I'm a
mom and I should always be connected with my children
and also with my wife. But just so much downfall
and so much negativity has. It just made me just

(17:56):
turn away. And I just couldn't see them hurt anymore.
I couldn't see the tears anymore. I couldn't cry anymore. So, um,
I asked God to just bring me closer. And we
had to start the we had the battery went out
and we had to go get a new battery. And
when we when we got the new battery, um, your

(18:17):
station was one of the stations that just came up,
and I didn't reprogram it. I didn't change it because
everything you guys were saying was what I needed to hear.
So for the past month, I've been listening to you
guys again, and it's been amazing because everything is literally
falling in place. It's not perfect, but it's falling in

(18:39):
place and it's it's everything.

S2 (18:43):
So thank you for calling in, sister. Listen, all we're
doing here, savvy, is we are breaking open the word
of God, and God's breaking into your heart. And he's
calling you back, calling you back to the responsibility that
he's called you to with regard to family. But mainly
we're turning to God because that is the most beautiful thing.

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When we set down the idols of our day and
take hold of the one true and living God. Look out!
We got a question for you today.

S4 (19:11):
What caused you to finally hate your sin enough to
ask God to help you do something about it? 855
five 7898 Freedom Friday here on Carlin Crew. Would love
to hear your story. 800 555 7898. 898.

S1 (19:25):
He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then
he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl
and crew on Moody Radio.

S2 (19:34):
On this Freedom Friday. We've got a question. What caused
you to finally hate your sin enough to ask God
to help you do something about it? 800 555 7898.
Going back to the phone lines. Danielle. First time caller
from Illinois. What do you say? Danielle.

S9 (19:52):
Hi. Um, so what finally caused me to turn away
was having my son. Um, I was in an abusive
relationship for ten years. I struggled with addictions. Um, drugs, alcohol, self-harm, porn, sex, everything.
And I truly felt when I was pregnant. Like, this
is my second chance at life because I did not

(20:15):
have motivation to live. I did not have motivation to
leave the abusive partner I was in until I found
out I was pregnant, but still nothing changed until my
son was six weeks old. I had him in my
arms and I threw one hand in the sky and
I said, God, if you're real. I said, don't show
me a sign. I said, change my heart. And I
had so much religious trauma. And within, literally within a

(20:39):
span of five days, I found my my worth in motherhood.
I found out who God sees me as, and I
found the confidence to leave the situation I was in.
And here we are almost five years later. My son
is is just me and him. And every single day
I thank him for giving me my boy. Honestly, I say, besides, um,

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you know, having my son salvation is the best gift
that I've ever gotten, and I'm honestly just so grateful.
I'm always reminded of who I was and where I
am now, and could not have been done without God.

S2 (21:11):
Ooh, Danielle, first time caller from Illinois. Ali, what do
you say to her?

S4 (21:17):
You know, salvation is the greatest gift that allows us,
and everything else flows out of that. And I know
Danielle would agree with me when we when we know Jesus,
it enables us to mother well. It enables us to
friend well daughter well sister well all of those roles,
these the stewardships, the hats that we wear. Man with
the power of Christ behind it. We can live abundantly.

S2 (21:41):
Yeah, I hadn't planned on this, but this is God's
dinner bell for me right now. And he's saying, Carl,
you got to do this. So I'm going to do
this right now, and we're going to cut this song
even super day. We're going to cut this. There's you've
been listening this morning. You've heard story after story from
an executive director here. If you didn't hear it from
Maranatha Camp that I'm broadcasting from this week, ten years ago,

(22:04):
corporate high flying, that was how about that story? Wow.
I mean, that was epic, wasn't it? Ali. Yes. From Chris.

S4 (22:12):
Truly.

S2 (22:14):
And story after story we've had today, a man just
wracked with pain over his immorality and his infidelity to
his bride. The stories go on and on. It doesn't
mean that when you surrender your life to Jesus that
everything comes up roses. We can go back. We can

(22:36):
find substitute gods. We can find family of origin issues
that still need to be dealt with. All these things
are in play. But here's the truth. Today you must
be born again. Today is the day when you need
God's power in your life. You are unable in your strength.
You might get victory over one thing in your life,
but it's spiritual. Whack a mole man. There's going to

(22:58):
be something else pop up its head. Because until God
fills that God shaped void in your life, you have
no life. And you know that today. And you've been
listening to some of these going, I want you just
heard Danielle. And you go, I'm crying out to God.
I'm saying, God, if you're real well, I'm here to
tell you today for Ali? For super di. For myself,

(23:20):
for Young Thunder, who's away on a little bit of R&R,
we would all say, as would tens of thousands listening today.
God is real. Jesus said, I am the way, I
am the truth. I am the life. That's what he
told his disciples. And he's telling you today. And I'm
asking you today is today, the day when you're ready
to go God's way and quit going your way. It

(23:42):
requires repentance. It requires repentance to turn around and walk
away in your mind, setting down all your idols, all
of those false gods and saying, today I surrender my
life to Jesus. Repentance is beautiful. It sounds hard, but
by God's grace you can turn around. You've had your

(24:02):
back to God. Now it's time to turn your back
to all your substitute gods. He said, I am the way.
I am the truth. The truth is we're born sinners
who need a Savior. We're not born saved. You might
have been born into a Christian home, but that doesn't
make you Christian any more than a car in a garage.

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When you stand there, makes you into a car. You
are born in sin. And Jesus wants to change you today.
Will you embrace the truth that you're a sinner who
needs a Savior today? And it is the cry, your
heart saying, Karl, today I'm saying to God, I repent.

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I turn around. Today, for the first time ever, I
am agreeing with God with the truth that I'm a
sinner who needs a Savior. And today, with my mouth,
I'm saying you are the leader of my life. Praise God,
because this brokenness, this desire to pull off the mask

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in this life that you've been living, this is the
grace of God that's being brought to you. And if
this is you today, there's no prayer that I lead
you into. It's a cry of the soul. We're going
to pray for you. But there's no fancy prayer to pray.
It's a it's a raw, honest, visceral cry of the

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soul that says, God, I'm done. Take over my life.
I repent. I believe Jesus died for my sins. And
I surrender my life to him today. And we want
to help you. And if this is you right now,
wherever you are, get to the side of the road.
If you're driving, if you're at home, if you're on
a walking path, wherever you are, get out your phone.

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We're going to help you and your first steps with Jesus.
I want you to text the word new right now.
If today is a day of salvation, today is your
freedom Friday. Text the word new to 800 555 7898. Today,
the life of Jesus is going to be poured into you.

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The shame. Regret. The pain is going to be emptied
out as rivers of living water flood into your life.
So if today is your day of salvation, today you
surrender all to Jesus. Text knew just that one word.
Knew to 805, five, five, 78, 98. Right now, wherever

(26:31):
you are, text the word new to 805 five, five
7898 one word. We're helping you with their first steps.
New to 800 555 7898. We're going to have an
amazing time here in just a moment. I've got a
great man of God. Chris Bruce has just ducked in here.

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He's with me. Well, he better be with me. He's
running this whole camp called Maranatha in Michigan. We're going
to banner ad what God's doing here? Freedom. Stories galore.
And we're going to have something really special. We're going
to lead with Chris's story. He's going to pour his
heart out because ten years ago, God did a miracle
of deliverance in his life. Hang on. We'll be right back.

S1 (27:15):
Your shot of hope to help you through the day.
This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

S2 (27:21):
Um, I'm broadcasting remotely here from Maranatha. It's a great
camp in Michigan. And with me this morning is Chris Pruess.
He is the executive director of Maranatha. The full title,
my man. It's a mouthful, isn't it?

S10 (27:35):
For the for the camp for sure. Yeah. Maranatha Bible
and missionary conference.

S2 (27:42):
There you go. And we're going to have a link
for you here in a moment. Chris. You came in
here this morning, and, you know, the one thing we
want to feature is freedom stories. And you said, Carl,
we can start with mine. Um, let's go there, man.
What did God do to to bring you to the
end of yourself?

S10 (28:00):
Yeah. Not on the script, but, um, hearing the hearing
the talk this morning, but. So I had a very, uh,
wonderful and successful 35 year career as a very senior
executive in the auto industry, even had the privilege of
being the head of global communications at General Motors during
the bankruptcy, which is a rather interesting place to be.

S2 (28:22):
You're the guy that gets trotted out there.

S10 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah. And, uh, ended up taking some other senior
jobs after that. But in that success and my wife
and I have had just an amazing marriage of 32 years,
and she is a unbelievable woman of God, great woman. Stacey. And, uh,
and we lived a very outwardly, uh, Christian life. But

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that pace of that corporate ascent, and you don't get
to that level without certainly amount of aspiration, uh, and
desire and, uh, an intense amount of pressure. And over time, uh,
about a third of my life would be on the
road and, uh, unbeknownst to to Stacey or to, uh,

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any of the brothers around us in church. Um, my
my secret garden was was alcohol. I get status on
the big airlines. Um, where you spend $120, $30,000 with Delta.
They give you whatever you want. The good life. And, uh, yeah,
it had a pattern of just loving to go go
into the Delta lounge at 3:00 and getting ready to

(29:28):
go on a flight to, you know, the other side
of the country, and you'd have a couple of glasses
of wine to ease you down and take your last
calls before you get on. And you fly up front
and you get over to the four hour flight and,
you know, they fill you up all the way across,
and then you go to where you're going and you
have events and you have a few more. And, you know,

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over time, I just figured out why. It's kind of interesting.
I seem to drink two for everybody else's one. And, um,
that pattern just kind of repeated itself to where I
was always managing that sense. So I knew I'd be
over the line. Certainly as a man of God. Maybe
not by the world standards, as bad as some people
would see it. Um, and you'd go through fits of.

(30:09):
I'd get it under control. But then, you know, you
might go a month off.

S2 (30:13):
And so you were wrestling?

S10 (30:14):
Yeah, wrestling. Just trying to manage it. And then as
time went on, God was not pleased. And, uh, and
God will hand you over to that, uh, which you
indulge in. You sort of become what you worship. And, um,
and of course, when you, when you're opening yourself up
to alcohol and you're on the road and lonely and stuff,
you let your eyes see things and you do things

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that are definitely destructive to your soul and and dishonoring
to God. And, uh, but if you're in a position
where you're in a very high corporate responsibility and you're
esteemed in the church, you get isolated. And that's what
sin wants to do. It wants to isolate you. And
so I wrestled that monkey for, you know, years and

(30:56):
and could never get total victory over it. And then, uh,
at one point, um, you know, God just said, I'm
going to take the hand off the restraint wheel and
let you play this out. And it just all culminated
again over ten years ago, where, um, on a very
important trip in a very important place, you know, um,

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I decided to go get a few before a meeting, and, uh,
I couldn't make my meeting. And so I had never
once ever had this intrude into my professional life or
intrude in a way that it really could shatter me. And, um,
it's a longer story, but, um, this became absolutely sick

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to my stomach about this back and forth and this
duplicitous life. And God just struck me. I, I had
had a lot of I'm sorry, I don't think I
ever had a I am truly broken over this sin.

S2 (31:48):
I repent.

S10 (31:49):
And I repented on my face before the Lord. And uh,
but the the hardest thing was, was writing. And again,
I'm a communicator, so and I'm also was a PR
guy so I could spend my own story really well. So, uh.
But I knew I had to come clean. Not just
to the Lord. I had to come clean to my wife.
I had to come clean to my pastor, and I, uh,

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you know, I wrote it out, I wrote out. I
knew if I didn't put everything down, I mean, I
tried to get everything on the page that I could
think of because I was carrying a weight that was
crushing me. And, uh, long story short, I dumped this
pile of garbage on my wife, who, again, I can't
explain to you, uh, what a wonderful, godly woman she is.

S2 (32:31):
Such a great.

S10 (32:31):
Woman. And, uh, knew that when I did this, it
was going to crush her. And that was always my restraint. Like,
she's not going to be able to deal with this.
But then, you know, we were very involved. She was
involved very much in biblical counseling at that time, and
she was in seminary, and she serves people. And I
knew enough, and I had heard enough and learned enough
in that, that the only way to be free is

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to totally confess. I mean, to just truly get everything
out and repent before God. And I did that to her. And, uh,
no matter what the what? The consequence. And at the
end of that, she just looked at me with, with
very sad eyes and said, I'm just so sorry for
you having carried that burden. Wow. There was no frying
pan or any get out of here. Um, and that,

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to be fair, was the start of a really hard year. And, uh.
But God in his grace, he absolutely changed things. And, um,
so when you talk about killing sin and hating sin,
I learned to hate sin. I learned to hate that
which destroyed me. So. And that was the real problem
all along. I loved my sin. I knew it was wrong,
and I knew I could, you know, but I could
control it because I was such a great guy with

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a great leadership skill and everything. But it was it
was ruining my life and I was broken, you know,
triangulate that back to Maranatha. Like, why did you know?
How would a place like this kind of go with that?
You know, this was the community and the people that
that she had and we had at that time, we
were not in leadership here, but we had had a
place out here for many years. And, uh, yeah, just

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that you had your place to come back and reconnect
and to see it clearly. And then we certainly had
community around us in our church. But I will tell you,
I never I the day I was on my face
before the Lord, I never I mean the smell of
alcohol will make me sick to my stomach.

S2 (34:11):
Chris, that is a heartfelt, fantastic story of God wrecking
you for his glory.

S10 (34:18):
Yeah, it was amazing and all to his glory.

S2 (34:22):
This must inspire a lot of what you do here
as Executive Director. Now, ten years later at Maranatha. Here
you are. It proves so much. It proves that God
can use our brokenness in astounding ways.

S10 (34:33):
Yeah. Hugely. Because it changes your appetites. The problems with
with inherent sin is it is a desire issue. I mean,
there's a lot of peripheral things, things done to us,
how sin affects us. But what I came to realize,
and I think, you know, what? Our and I went
on to finish a seminary degree and, um, with Stacy
and counseling and we spend all of our extra time counseling,

(34:54):
mostly marital counseling people. But the the other reality is,
is that deep down, it is my desire. It is
my broken desire. It is, um, something I am worshiping
and wanting. And until you repent of that underlying, uh,
this great brother Brad Bigney wrote a book called Gospel Treason.
Great book. Um, but basically you got to get to

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the sin beneath the sin, the alcohol, the pornography, whatever
it is that's doing, that's the fruit of a heart
that is desiring something other than the Lord Jesus Christ.
And that is what we're ultimately repenting of. And when
we do that, those sins just don't have any power
over us because they are they're they're awful. It's we
see them for what they truly are.

S2 (35:36):
Yeah. Chris Bruce is our guest right now and he
is the executive director at Maranatha. Hear this. Must. We've
just got a couple of minutes here, but this must
just inspire. This must be the catalyst for what we're
what I'm even doing here this week. You must. This
must just light you up to see people walking in freedom.

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And that's part of what your mission is here at Maranatha.

S10 (35:59):
It is spiritual renewal on this beautiful recreational setting emphasizing
Bible teaching and worldwide mission. You know, all this corporate
life I had. But this place slavishly stays on its mission.
People come here to get restored. Um. It is. It
is the teaching you're teaching here for. For those of you,
we have a live stream on our website. You go
to the YouTube page, you can see all of Carl's
preaching here. And, uh, it was huge. We have another

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wonderful brother, Josh Steffens, I think was on earlier this
week and just bringing people truth. And then, uh, we
have prayer ministry here, and then you throw in all
the recreation and we have missionaries that come in and
talk about their, uh, project for the week. Maranatha raised
$850,000 on an average summer over the last three years.

S2 (36:43):
For ministries.

S10 (36:44):
For ministries that come in here, people come here and
pay thousands of dollars for their vacations, and then missionaries
walk out, you know, with an abundance of resources to
spread the gospel and that restores the soul. And I
think we all need rest. Rest. We need Sabbath. And
I think we do it better than any place you'll find.
And it's in a community of people that just love
Jesus and love each other.

S2 (37:05):
Yeah. Chris, I want to thank you from the bottom
of my heart. If you're listening right now, going, oh
my goodness. A summer camp, we can get away with
our family. Ali, what's this do in your heart as
you're listening to Chris Bruce? This is amazing, amazing testimony.

S4 (37:19):
And you know, you he so perfectly described a place
where people can get away and have respite and have rest.
And for your for your soul. You mean you. Jesus
gives us rest for our soul, but he gives us Sabbath.
He gives us places to meet with him, to enjoy
his creation. If you want more on this place, text
camp to 800 555 7898. Camp to 800 555 7898.

(37:45):
For more info on the Maranatha Camp in Michigan.

S2 (37:48):
Yeah, Chris, I got to tell you, I've never had
a more catalytic conversation about why a family ought to
go as a family for restoration, health, healing, and spiritual renewal.
I love you, man, and I thank you for coming in.

S10 (38:02):
Thank you for. Thank you for being with us.

S2 (38:04):
Text camp to 800 555 7898. Get registered.

S1 (38:10):
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S2 (38:13):
Man, that's that's a banner ad for what we're talking
about today. Cece Winans believe for it. It's Carl and
crew helping you take your next step with Jesus. What
if your next step is to put to death by
the power of the spirit? That which is owning you,
that that you're bowing down to? We've had an amazing morning.

(38:34):
Oh my goodness. Chris Bruce was just in here. Executive
director of Maranatha. And I don't even have words to
describe what we just heard. Ali.

S4 (38:43):
I was blown away. Blown away. And the fact that
he that was not the story that he intended to share,
We were going to talk about the camp for sure,
but the fact that he was willing to he heard
where we were headed this morning and was willing to
be that vulnerable about his own story for the glory
of God. I was really moved by it.

S2 (39:01):
Yeah. Powerful stuff. You know, sometimes you wonder, how am
I going to dig out of this mess? Well, our
God is able. You know, the beautiful thing about the
gospel is that it's not on you. It's God. And
we join him. And so many of you have been
living so long for God. And you think it's all
about living for God. And pretty quick it becomes a

(39:23):
performance Christianity. And it's really all that's above waterline that
matters most in your life. But God says, no, no,
it's it's below the water. That's what matters most. And
if we look deeply down into through the silty water
of our life, and we begin to look honestly at

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what God wants to change takes a lot of courage.
But even that courage is the grace of God, right, Ali?
I mean, we don't even muster the courage to face it. No.

S4 (39:54):
No we don't. Not in our own strength.

S2 (39:58):
You know, I went to lunch while I was up
here at camp with my dear buddy Greg Dempster, and
we're going to bring him in a moment, because some
of you are wondering how in the world am I
going to get victory over this thing? I think that
the the short of it is, it's all God. It's
it's bowing down before the one who loves you, saves you,

(40:19):
renews you, changes you. Understanding your identity in Christ, coming
to grips with the fact that I can't do it.
And if that's the cry of your soul today. Hang on.
We're in for an incredible ride ahead here. This is
John Reddick. There's no fear in our relationship with God.

(40:40):
We have nothing to fear, nothing to prove, nothing to lose,
nothing to gain. Greg Dempster with Christ's Life Ministries coming up.
Hang on guys.

S1 (40:50):
It's Karl and crew on Moody Radio.

S11 (40:53):
Well, God has to give us the courage to face.

S4 (40:56):
The things that live in the shadows. The things that
we would rather not other people know about us. We
want to keep a certain image. So we we allow
certain things to kind of linger there. But we have
to come to a point where God gives us enough
courage to see ourselves as we truly are, and to
ask God to beg God to plead with God to
help us. Greg Dempster, our guest right now, founder and

(41:19):
director of Christlike Life Ministries. We all want to believe
the best about ourselves until we're confronted with the truth, right?

S12 (41:27):
Well, that's exactly right. I mean, we spent a lot
of time building masks and building facades. And then there
are those moments of crisis where somehow the facade slips down,
the mask falls off, and we're revealed for who we
really are. We've got to begin doing the work, the
deeper work that enables us to be who we are

(41:48):
when exposed, when the mask comes down, or even leading
us to remove the mask entirely from our lives.

S2 (41:56):
Yeah. Greg Dempster, with us right now again, founder and
director of Christ's Life Ministries. What is it, Greg, that
causes a person to break and come clean with God
and possibly others with regard to sin? And that's just
I want to define here. Hamartia is sin. It means
to miss the mark. We're all going to sin and

(42:19):
fall short of the glory of God. But I'm talking
about enslavement to sin. The very thing that Paul says
we're no longer slaves to. We're now bond servants to
Christ Jesus. What? What brings us to a point of
breaking someone more than one, maybe tens of thousands, are
on the edge of that today. Whether it's financial mismanagement, uh,

(42:40):
time mismanagement, addictions of all kinds. What brings us there, Greg?

S12 (42:46):
You know, Carl, I can I can tell you. I
can answer that by sharing my story. 19 years old,
drug using fool of a kid. Dad. Pastor. My mom
was a church organist at at church. And there I
was in Capitola, California, high on LSD. About as wayward
and off as a young person could be. And God

(43:09):
met me powerfully on the beach in that moment and
revealed that my life was heading in a very dark direction,
and that I had the opportunity to to surrender myself
to him and begin to walk in new life. That
was literally 35 years ago, and my life has never
been the same. And I think that that moment is

(43:31):
a moment of crisis with the realization of total inability
to change the way that I'm living my life outside
of God, stepping in and helping.

S4 (43:40):
Wow. Greg. Greg Dempster, our guest right now. Talk a
little bit about the ministry that you do because you
often your interaction with leaders is at a moment of crisis.

S12 (43:52):
Yeah. We're just what I've learned over the last decade
is that we're all the same alley. We all are
in some on a journey, and that journey is leading
to honesty, where I can let the mask down and
let people see me, begin to see me for who
I really am. Because I'm allowing God to move into

(44:14):
those deeper places of who I am. So those crisis
moments for these leaders really have everything to do with
the fact that they've taken their mask as far as
it'll go. Some of these guys are leading churches of ten, 20,
25,000 people, and they're exhausted because their mask is getting

(44:35):
all the benefit. It's getting all the accolades, it's getting
all the love and they're left unknown with hidden sin
and brokenness is just continuing to rip them off.

S2 (44:45):
Greg, what takes a person to that point where they
come see you and really it's come face to face
with God? Because it's not even it first. We've we've
got to come into agreement with God, which is what
confession is. And it's that visceral, gristly, hard, raw, honest

(45:08):
moment when we say, God, this is who I am.
What gets us there? Some are right at that threshold.
How do we press through that right now?

S12 (45:17):
You know, at first, as an encouragement from a theological standpoint,
we learn that God is prevenient working in every person's life.
That God is is always previous, uh, related to the
good things that we begin to see happen in our lives.
And sometimes good isn't perceived as good when we're experiencing it.

(45:38):
Like being exposed. Like people seeing beneath the hood of
our lives and us getting caught. But those are moments
that are ripe, that are, that are, that are full
of opportunity for change, full of opportunity to connect with
the Isaiah 61 Savior who came to set captives free.
That was the heart of his mission and his ministry.

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And he's still powerfully moving and setting captives free today.
So these leaders come in and they're just they've been
pushing too hard, running too fast, too close to core slow.
And they reach a point where they just can't do
it any longer. And that that self effort, their own energy,

(46:22):
their own power is not going to bring them across
the finish line in life. They know that something is
off and they just are desiring to discover what that
is and then move towards health.

S4 (46:34):
Greg Dempster, our guest right now. Maybe you relate to
this conversation. Something is off. Your mask has taken you
as far as it can go. What now? More coming up.

S1 (46:45):
He was running from God. But God's love brought him home.
Carl is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on
Moody Radio.

S2 (46:54):
I think it's easy for us to rationalize what's behind
our mask, especially when we look at people over there
who have that. And there's these big sins. I have
air quotes going on, because any sin that's missing the
mark and has its clutches into our soul, it's deadly.

(47:15):
And so we can look at things like poor time management,
or being a sluggard or gluttony or destructive thoughts of pride.
Or maybe you've become professionally insecure and porn and finances
run amok trying to fill a void. Gossip. Disorganization. Bitterness. Apathy.

(47:36):
Social media. Self. Greg. Behind that mask are a lot
of things. It's easy to rationalize. It's easy to see
drugs to Jesus type story and say, boy, glad I'm
not that poor sinner. But behind that mask is the
real grace of God, isn't it? My friend.

S12 (47:53):
That's exactly it. Uh, in our in these moments where
it all comes down, that's where God allows dynamic amounts
of grace to be experienced. He meets us there. He
meets us when the mask is off. He meets us
when the mask is on also. But he's moving us
towards bowing our knee to him, giving up control to him.

(48:15):
Like Romans ten nine invites us to do. Practice ownership.
Offer complete ownership to him. That's something that you could,
from a practical standpoint, begin practicing today. You're the owner,
not me. Jesus. Take over every aspect of my life. That's.
That's really the first step forward, right? When the mask
falls off and we're exposed, is to come to him

(48:38):
and offer complete ownership to him, that's where sin begins
to lose its hold on our lives.

S4 (48:45):
Greg Dempster, our guest right now, Christ Life Ministries. They
have been used powerfully to transform Christian leaders from many
denominational backgrounds. Greg, how can we begin to cultivate more
authenticity in our congregations? It's a word that's often used
but not really lived out very well. Many people who
are listening right now are in Christian communities where they

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say the right things. Each week they put on the
smile and they long for something deeper, something richer, where
we're really known and knowing other people, sin and all.

S12 (49:17):
You know, the great thing is that renewal isn't dependent
on the primary leadership of your church. The encouragement that
I would give you is that God is speaking and
moving and acting in this moment. Respond to him. Respond
to him by recommitting your life to him, by changing

(49:39):
the rhythms that you have in life. If you're all
about social media and you're or all about exercise routines
in the morning, there's nothing wrong with those until they
become more important to you than than than Jesus himself.
And so if you were able to to allow God

(49:59):
in this moment, wherever you are in your office or
in your car, you could just say to him, in
this moment, God, I offer ownership all of my life,
ownership of my life. Back to you. Draw me back home. Uh,
you invite me to come to you. Lord, empower me
by the power of your Holy Spirit to step out

(50:21):
of the broken rhythms that I'm in right now and
towards you and. And the promise of God that we
see related to returning to him and empowering that return
is in Philippians two where he says, uh, I'll give
you everything that you need for to desire me and
to live according to my good purposes. It's there. It
will stop. We'll we give up control and allow him

(50:44):
to begin moving us forward towards him.

S2 (50:47):
You've got a cautionary tale, Greg, that you, uh, that
you utilize. And it's an iceberg metaphor from Alaska. I
want you to share that because I think some people
are on the edge. But we need to know that, uh,
the what's at risk here is real. Would you share
that with us?

S12 (51:06):
Yeah. Of course. So we use the iceberg as a
word picture to help us understand kind of the misappropriation
of time, uh, in our lives, that, of course, with
an iceberg, only 10% is above the surface of the water.
It's in the it's able to be seen. 90% is
below the water. When we invest 90% of our effort

(51:31):
in the 10%. It leaves very little emotional energy to
focus on the vast majority of our lives. And in
a moment, an iceberg can fracture. And when it fractures,
everything that's below the surface flips over and is brought
into the light. And all of our hard work, our positioning,

(51:54):
our resume, building, our our performance is an obscured underneath
the water surface. And that's really where I find a
lot of the leaders that we work with. They're just exposed.
They might have spent 20 years building out their resume,
and it doesn't matter anymore. They might have been a
4.2 student in seminary, and then they sat in their

(52:15):
first elder's meeting and got browbeat and beat up. And
they don't know what to do. That we need to
allow God Into the areas of our lives beneath the surface,
so that when we go through crisis, we're healthy and
able to navigate it with God's help.

S4 (52:34):
Greg, give us a story. Obviously, we don't need names, locations, details,
but give us a redemption story that you've seen.

S12 (52:42):
I would love to. I was working with a guy
out of state. Came from a real tough childhood. Like
tough would be the understatement. I mean, it was like
everything that should be in a movie, like a dysfunctional
family like you've never seen before. And this guy in
that family could do no wrong. He would get arrested

(53:06):
as a teenager, and his mom would step in and
blow up the police officers, blaming them and assuming that
his son could do no, her son could do no wrong. Well,
this guy, great communicator, just amazing. Like magnetic personality gets
transformed by Jesus, launches into ministry, and he's carrying that

(53:32):
baggage from his childhood into everything that he does. He
grows a church from 500 to 5000 to five years.
He's the golden child in that ministry. And yet whenever
he was confronted, people came with constructive criticism for him.

(53:52):
He would respond in the same way that he experienced
life growing up, that it was always someone else's issue.
It was always the elder's issue or the congregants issue.
And what ended up happening is this this life, this
ministry that was full of momentum, full of genuine power.
I mean, there were a lot of people getting saved,

(54:13):
and this guy's church all of a sudden we're brought
to that that point of fracture and his life rolled over.
And all of this brokenness, all this messaging from his
childhood and all of this hidden life that was in
play that nobody else saw was exposed. And he went
through a significant a long season of taking mask after

(54:38):
mask off and just beginning to become real like never before,
not needing to prove himself, but just being able to
rest in the fact that he, God, God is enough.
He didn't need to be enough. God is enough. And again,
I want to keep this as simple as possible. If

(54:58):
if you're listening today and you're just all goofed up,
like you're wrapped around the axle of life and you
don't know which way to go first, it starts in
this moment by bowing down and and recommitting your life
to Christ and and reaffirming the fact that he is

(55:19):
the owner. When he is the owner, it's his responsibility
to do in you everything that needs to transpire for
you to live the life he's designed you to live.

S2 (55:28):
Yeah. It's beautiful. You know, what dawned on me is
the elastic that keeps that mask on is the fear
of getting found out. And the amazing thing is, is
that our God already knows. And he's extending his arm saying,
come to me, friend. You're weary, you're weary. Take my

(55:51):
yoke upon you and learn from me. For I am
gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest
for your soul. And I want to I want to
add something that's coming up. We're not releasing it today,
but Greg has cataloged even self guided journeys. That's what
it's called journeys to recovery. And these journeys to recovery,

(56:11):
we're going to begin to in the next weeks and
months here. He's going to as he comes in as
the guest, he's going to provide free resources so that
people can go below the waterline, get after the 90%
that's so unseen too often. But if you want to
get oriented with what Greg is doing with Christ's life,

(56:32):
just text the word life to our number right now. [phone].
Just text the word life to 800 555 7898. And Greg,
from the bottom of my heart, I want to say
thank you today. Um, it is it is such a
beautiful thing. And I know that right now there are
people that are loosening the elastic that's had them held

(56:55):
on to that mask, and they're saying, I'm taking it off.
And we give God praise today. Thank you Greg.

S12 (57:02):
My joy.

S2 (57:03):
Yeah. Text the word life to 800 555 7898 800
555 7898.

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You know, being.

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Confronted with sin can be overwhelming. We really have two
choices when we get confronted with missing the mark. And
I just want to be really clear here. The hope
that we have is that although God sees it, when
we come into agreement with God about us missing the mark,

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and again, sin is something that we all have. We're
born with it. We're born with our backs to God.
We're born on this path as bondservants of sin, slaves
to sin. This is why Paul spends so much time
in the book of Romans explaining this miracle of transformation.
When we come into a relationship with Christ, we're no

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longer slaves to sin. We're actually bound over to righteousness.
And you might be saying, well, Carl, I might be
bound over to righteousness. But if you followed me around
for a week, you'd. It wouldn't look like that. Here's
the reality. The spiritual truth is that when we're transformed
by the power of the Holy Spirit, regenerated were sealed

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in him. But we still have this flesh, this thing
called sarx in the original language. And with this flesh
comes all kinds of habits and family of origin issues,
ways of relating, dysfunctional ways of talking. And God wants
us to submit ourselves to him. And by this submission

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he begins to alter us. Now, the question that we
may have is, well, how in the world do we
get victory over this? Now, if we head off in
our own strength, we are destined to do a face
plant over and over again. And many of you like myself,
like Allie, like somebody, have headed off in our own strength,

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trying to get something squared away in our life that
only God can fix. And this is why it's imperative
that even though you've been radically transformed by Jesus, if
you see something in your life that needs to be altered,
fall on your face. I want to give you three
things that will position you for power as you're overcoming
sin in your life. One is humility. If you humble

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yourself under the mighty hand of God, he will lift
you up. Humility is the single most important virtue that
gives birth to every other virtue. Andrew Murray coined that
humility is not thinking pitiful little of yourself. It's thinking
much of God and getting your life aligned with him.

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So humility is paramount. Proximity to Jesus. These all relate
to the Trinity. Humility before God. Proximity to Jesus. We
love John 15 here he says, I am the vine
Jesus spoke to his disciples, you are the branches. If
you abide in me, you will bear much fruit. Now
here's the beauty of this thing. All you have to

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do is go to Galatians five and you see that
one of the fruit of the spirit is self-control. And
self-control is probably the lynchpin thing you need to overcome
sin in your life. Now, here's the beauty of this.
You don't produce self-control. It's almost misnamed, isn't it?

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But it says self, so it's not even on me.
I can't do it myself.

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It's the fruit of the spirit. And it's a fruit
of an abiding life with Jesus Christ. And then the third,
I want to give you the ultimate power. And we
know this because Jesus said to his disciples in John 16,
I'm going away, but it's to your advantage that I go.
And we've often missed this advantage. The Holy Spirit was
a lost God for me for many years until I realized,

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oh my goodness, the Spirit of God. These things that
I've called promptings and nudges and hints and little things
in the past. Now I know that's the Spirit of
God that indwells me. That's the Spirit of God that's
directing me. He's doing what Jesus promised. He's reminding me
of the truth of God's Word. And that power is

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what's going to break you free. And Ali added it earlier,
but we're going to say it again. We got a
resource here that's going to help you conquer the one
thing that has been defeating you. I don't want you
to be alone feeling like, what am I going to do?
These truths and more. We rehearse in this resource. Ali,
how did they get it?

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Just text conquer to [phone]. Text conquer to [phone].

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Yeah. This is this is a a practical biblical strategy
that will conclude with a roundhouse of killing sin, which
is the art of confession and why you agree with God,
and then find trusted people to give that to the
power of God's Word, to be the offensive weapon of

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war in your life. And we want you to get
victory today, friends, some of you are in a pile
of tears going, how? Who will rescue me from this
body of sin and death? And we, we are with
the Apostle Paul. Praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ.
So text that word conquer right now to 800 555, 78, 98.

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Just that one word. Conquer to 800 555 78. 98.
I knew it, boy. That's a long week when I'm
forgetting the last two numbers of the number.

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You got it.

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My goodness. Take it away, Ali.

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Conquer to 805. Five. Five. 78. 98.