February 18, 2025 • 70 mins
What if the key to true happiness lies not in what you achieve, but in how you perceive your own journey? Join us for an enlightening conversation with Dallas Collins, the insightful author of "The Gift is Present," as we uncover this profound idea. Dallas opens up about his own experiences with trauma and the path he took to transform those challenges into a deep understanding of self-love and happiness. His stories, intertwined with wisdom, serve as a reminder of the power of living fully in the present moment, free from the confines of past regrets and future anxieties.
We dive into the art of being present, advocating that happiness isn't a distant goal but a state accessible to us right now. Together, we reflect on how societal norms often mislead us into equating success with material wealth, when true fulfillment comes from within. With personal anecdotes and thoughtful insights, the discussion reveals how shifting our perspective from external achievements to internal contentment can profoundly impact our lives. Learn how embracing this mindset can transform your everyday experiences, allowing you to truly savor the moment and appreciate life as it unfolds.
Empower yourself with practical tools for well-being, health, and happiness as we discuss radical responsibility and the interconnectedness of our physical, mental, and social lives. Discover the Step System and Fit Five Life, frameworks designed to help you make incremental changes that lead to significant transformations. Dallas shares the importance of letting go of emotional baggage and societal expectations, encouraging a life where love, presence, and authentic joy become the guiding principles. Tune in for an inspiring episode that encourages you to awaken to your true self and seize the happiness that lies within reach.
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Love & Light - Keep Hope Alive
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
hello and welcome to keep up a live podcast.
Today I have the privilege ofmeeting mr dallas collins.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
I'm so glad you're here, thanksfor having me you're welcome.
We can see that you're anauthor.
Your latest book is that a giftPresent, correct?
(00:25):
I hope I said that right.
The Gift is Present.
I want to say the Present it isthe Present.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh, it is the Present .
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Okay, gotcha, and we're going to be diving into
his story, going over hisjourney of how he's writing
books and what it's like to, Iguess, be you in the world and
bring joy and happiness topeople.
But before I get started I havea question for you Out of the
(00:53):
past year how many weddings haveyou been to?
Oh, zero.
Zero.
Okay, Well, pretend.
Some friends of ours invited usto go to a wedding and we're
walking into the ceremony siteand off to the right.
There's something there that weneed to sign.
What is it that we are needingto sign?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That would be a guest book.
I haven't signed one in 10years.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I know right, they do them all different.
Well, I've seen Jenga, I'veseen the picture frames, and now
I see a little foil tree youcan make and I was like, oh,
these are all interesting, butmy favorite is Life on Record.
And they're one of our biggestsponsors here at Keep Hope Alive
and what they do is, instead ofthat guest book, they do a
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vintage rotary phone so yourguests can come up to it, pick
up, leave a message, whetherit's one minute, five minutes,
30 minutes, but at a wedding, do30 minutes, yeah.
And right next to it it has aQR scan code that the guests can
use their own cell phones touse and scan it to leave a
message before or after.
(02:01):
Now, the great thing, a messagebefore or after Now, the great
thing.
They're collecting the voice,which is a gift to us, so we get
to hear it back, and what theydo is burn all those messages
either on a 12-inch vinyl recordor they have a keepsake box
they call it the little boom boxthat they put it on.
Their plans start at $99.
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You get the phone number.
You have to return the phone,but you get the phone number for
a whole year, so you can, likeI said, use this.
Weddings, family reunions, maybebirthday parties, big corporate
events, it All right, that'sreally cool.
I know it is.
(02:49):
I was like I need to plan a bigparty, I want to use that.
So now I did use it.
Last year and I even did apodcast.
It was called Hush and it's thefirst podcast I did that I
actually ever cried in, but itwas about my son's football team
and another team.
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There was a really bad legaccident on one of our team
members and how coaches handledit.
It wasn't our team.
We were worried about the kidthat got hurt, but the other
team was coming right at us andfighting with the coaches' wives
and parents were gettinginvolved.
(03:30):
It was a mess, but yeah, thatone was very hard.
So I used Life on Record, gaveeverybody in our app that phone
number to call and wish a boywell for his leg Nice, so that
was a good use of it.
Boy well for his leg, nice, sothat was a good use of it.
That is my favorite story rightthere.
(03:51):
So, let's get to it.
I'm so excited.
So who is Dallas Collis?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, let's start just before that, because I
think a great conversation needsa foundation.
That because I think a greatconversation needs a foundation.
And the foundation for this iswhat do we all want?
What does everyone want fromtheir life?
What did your parents want foryou, what do you want for your
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children?
And, in the final analysis,when we boil it down, it's not
to be a doctor or an astronautor someone famous, it's to be
healthy and happy.
So if we can agree that reallyhuman beings have one
destination to try to find theirhappy, beautiful, loving place
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to relax, enjoy and just behappy.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Can we go with that?
Yeah, I want to go with that,because I'm picturing a beach
right now, so you got me.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So if happiness is our destination, what are?
we waiting for?
We shouldn't be waiting, right.
And that's where the storyhappens.
You are a story, I am a story,we are storytellers.
I meet Nadine at a coffee baror wherever Someone introduces
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me to you and I say nice to meetyou, tell me something about
yourself.
And you start telling me yourstory.
So we are our story from birth.
Everything that happens,everything we perceive and
experience, we're taught, wetaste, we touch, we smell, we
fall down, get up, everythingbecomes a part of our history
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that we then identify as that isthe self, is the story I see
behind me, what I've beenthrough, my memories, my history
, and, like any human being, thestart of that story building is
often trauma, because theexperience of coming into this
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world is trauma on its own.
And things happen.
You know, I was psychologicallyand physically bullied and
abused as a child.
I came out of my early yearsknowing I was not smart enough,
not good enough, didn't measureup.
I failed.
I failed in school, I failed ontests, I failed in grades
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completely.
So that's the message that getsput into my story and that's
what we call emotional baggage.
Yes, and we call it thatbecause we carry that baggage
with us, some of us for ourentire lives, and there's always
a nagging difficulty, stress,worry, shame, guilt, regret.
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We create anxiety.
What might happen next?
All these things come from that, what I call the story mind,
this invented, created movie anda script that we follow and
identify as the self.
Who I am, and I can tell youwho I am.
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Well, of course, this has someproblems and, like every human
being, we look for ways to dealwith it and we deal with it by
the education that tells us it'sall out there.
So our first addiction is blame.
We blame what happened to us,we blame someone who did
something to us, we blame school, we blame the church, we blame
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the upbringing, we blame afriend.
We grow, and we blame our boss.
And we blame the traffic.
And we blame the environment,the government, politics, you
name it.
We blame the economy, we blameour kids.
For making me angry today, Iblame my wife, for it just goes
on and on.
And this whole I call it anaddiction because what it does
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is it keeps us from our own self, from ever facing the baggage
we carry, from ever facing thebaggage we carry.
We're using it like amedication, like an addict does,
to not feel the pain, to nottake responsibility for what I'm
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feeling.
So of course, the blame beginsto wear off if you've got a lot
of pain.
And so then I chose alcohol,because alcohol is a better
medication.
It's stronger and I go drinkingand party with friends and have
fun and the pain is not there.
I'm having a great life.
This is fine.
But then you do it too long andit begins to turn on you and
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pretty soon you can't stop andyou have to up the medication.
Get stronger medication, getmore, add some drugs.
I'm in a 25-year marriage withmy wife and she's in the exact
same boat, carrying anger andpain from her trauma and
medicating with drugs andalcohol along with me.
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And so we enable each other tostay unresponsible for our lives
.
And from the outside.
We have a house, we have carsin the driveway, vacations, a
business together, two beautifulchildren.
We're normal, right, we're thenormal, successful, middle-class
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family.
Everyone sees, and aren't theyterrific?
But under that roof is a storm,a war, an absolute tragedy for
our children as well, a shameyou would carry forever from it.
Well, I got lucky.
Not long into the greatpandemic, I woke up one morning
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with cancer the luckiest day ofmy life.
I had started a 12-year periodto the day of being diagnosed
with cancer, going throughtreatment, losing my wife,
losing my house, losing myfamily in any way you can
imagine that being losing ourbusiness, ending up alone,
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broken, alcoholic and suicidal.
In exactly one year, all thathappened.
So I call that the year of lifecollapse.
Now, there's a good thing tothat.
If any one of those things hadhappened, it could have been a
tragedy for my life, I think,because it all happened together
.
There was no time for it to bea tragedy.
It was simply trying to hold onto the lifeboat and get through
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it.
There was no time to actuallyabsorb pain from it.
But what it did was wake me upto this false reality of who.
I believe.
I was the false self and I nowbelieve we are all a false self
because we are that story.
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I didn't create that story.
You didn't create your story.
Your experience and environmentand people's opinions and
education and parenting thatcreated the story.
You never chose it.
You became an identity thathappened to you.
So my entire life, my entirelife, is believed to be this
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story, our history.
One day, soon after, I'm tryingto understand how to get my
life back together, how to getphysically healthy and stronger,
how to be able to live and goforward.
I'm listening to a podcast inthe background making dinner one
night, and a man on the podcastsaid one line, and you know
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that hit me like a ton of bricksoh yeah, I've never, I've never
believed that that's sort ofHollywood, you know, struck by a
ton of bricks.
Oh yeah, I've never believedthat.
That's sort of Hollywood, youknow, struck by a bolt of
lightning.
And I always thought that wassilly.
Well, I got to experience it.
And what the man said was showme yesterday.
That was it my brain said showme yesterday, nadine, can I go
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to the cupboard, pull outyesterday and go here?
What do you think?
I don't know, could you?
No, of course we can't.
We know we can't, but I hadbased my whole life on yesterday
.
Yesterday almost killed me, andnow I have to see in my mind
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what is the reality of ouryesterday, what is the reality
of our story outside of just amemory?
What is the truth of a memory?
How could just a memory almostkill me in the real life of
today?
I mean that opened the doorwide and said it's just a story.
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It's just a belief.
You believe things 10 years agoyou don't believe right now.
You will believe things in 10years that you don't believe
right now.
So what is a belief?
How true is it?
It's only as true as youbelieve it is.
When that happened, my selfcould collapse.
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I could get rid of myself.
I don't need a self.
Who needs a self-image?
There's no reason for it.
It's a story we believe and thestory pushes us around, directs
us, gives us opinion and ideasand response.
What for To uphold a story thatisn't even really me?
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So what's the truth of me?
And, I think, the truth of us?
We already started there.
I think the truth of us.
We already started there.
We are what we seek the beauty,the love and the happiness.
That's as you are born.
Look into the eyes and face of abrand new baby, fresh out of
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the oven, and what you see islove, beauty, happiness.
You don't have any judgment, itjust is.
What you're seeing is not thebaby.
You're seeing your reflectionof your heart in the baby.
It's showing you.
This is who you really are, nota who, not a self.
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What what you are.
My mother died six weeks ago,two hours before her death, I
looked down into her face andher eyes and what do you think I
saw?
I saw the baby.
I saw love, beauty andhappiness At the start and at
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the end.
What we are is always revealedIn between.
We cloud it with a story andthe story gives us every problem
we can face in life.
Every worry, every concern,every regret, every shame, every
anxiety is only in the story.
It's not in what we are.
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There's no shame, guilt,anxiety, fear or pain in love
and beauty and happiness.
That baby has no story.
It has none of those thingsattached to it.
And at death, almost everysingle person says what their
only regret is the time theyspent in that story and not
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being in where Love, beauty andhappiness with their family,
their friends, the importantthings.
This is always right behind uslike a clear blue sky and
sunshine, but we end up staringat all the clouds and the rain
and the storm and we thinkthat's important.
We go into school and what doesschool teach us?
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To make the grade, to reach thegoal, to be able to jump the
hoop, measure up, get an a andyou're smart, get an f and
you're stupid.
It's always external.
We will find the happiness, thebeauty and the love out there.
Get a house, get a beautifulhot wife, get a beautiful hot
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car.
Reach, grow, succeed, strive,grind, discipline.
Always external, the same asthe addiction to stay away from
the pain, always external, thesame as the addiction to stay
away from the pain.
And so what happens?
95% of people don't reach theirgoals.
They don't go after theirdreams.
They give up.
They make, do, they get a jobthat works, they pay the bills,
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they can put a roof over theirhead and they're satisfied and
they carry on.
But that pain is always there,in the background, maybe only
subtly, but it's saying you'retrying to get to a place that
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you always are and you're notlooking at it.
And so the journey we've createdis to get somewhere, to be
something, to achieve something.
It's all fool's game.
We have been fooled.
We can just be love andhappiness and beauty every
single day, and people will sayto me they'll say, well, you
can't just sit around and belove and happy and beautiful.
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What about paying the bills anddoing your job and looking
after your kids?
We only ever do that right now,in this day.
We don't do it tomorrow, wedon't do it yesterday, we do it
right now.
Every day is only right now.
So where do you think you'regoing?
We're not going anywhere.
We're doing what we're doinghere and now.
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We're not doing it somewhereelse, and we get confused,
thinking it's going to take ussomewhere.
It's going to have a benefitfor us to reach.
The benefit is here.
You already won.
Everything else is just playingtowards something.
I'm going to be better, I'mgoing to improve
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Self-improvement.
For 100 years has been doingwhat?
Taking your story and then, ontop of it, saying, ah, I can
change and be better, and itdoesn't work.
And it doesn't work.
It can't work because the storyis still there.
I've written down the goal I'mgoing to be wealthy and I'm
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going to take all these stepsand do this work.
I'm going to get this education.
I've written down the goal I'mgoing to be wealthy and I'm
going to take all these stepsand do this work.
I'm going to get this education.
I've written every step down.
I know exactly how I'm going todo it.
I've got the strategy.
I've got the tools.
I'm building the skills.
I'm driving, I'm grinding everyday.
I'm imagining my future and inthe back of my mind is a little
voice from my story going, andin the back of my mind is a
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little voice from my story goingyou're not going to do it,
you're not good enough, you'renot going to get there.
And so we wonder why we struggleand struggle and we fail and we
go on, try the next one.
And every year we've even madeup a thing at New Year's to do
what?
To set another goal.
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It's this constant treadmillbecause we think we're going
somewhere.
We're not going anywhere, we'realready here, your whole life
is here, it's only here, itexists nowhere else.
So there's my story.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Take it away that is a huge story, a very eye-opening
story like, yeah, we're writingour stories right now, and this
is the midst of time.
I'm a new grandma, so I seewhen my granddaughter looks at
me and you know she's soinnocent and sweet and I'll be
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getting ready to do a podcast.
Put my makeup on, I go.
Are we going?
to do makeup soon and she'lljust kind of smile and giggle
and it lightens my heart.
But you know, when we wereyounger I didn't have really
full memories until maybe likefive or six years old, and then
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from there going, you see howtime flies as you get older.
I'm only 47, but I knew whenthe forties came I was noticing,
hey, things are going faster,this earth is spinning faster.
Who am I?
What am I going to do with mytime, my purpose?
And I found out what my purposewas.
I'm awake, I know and I meanyes, I've told people in the
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past to create a vision for it,to see what you want and go
after it.
Having that vision but also yougot me thinking and I can't
believe I'm going to be sayingthis, but it's the real truth.
Now, keep Hope Alive.
What started a year ago, that'sgreat.
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I think I was like at 193episodes and I was like, wow,
okay, I'm getting awarded forrelationship, mental health.
You know, podcast is great.
And then I took a full-time job.
All my time and energy went tothe job and I could feel like
inside of me okay, well, it'spaying the bills.
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I like doing it.
The people are really supernice I go.
But my heart started hurting andI tried to do a couple, which I
only landed one or two and Iwas like this is just becoming a
lot at work, because at the endof the day, being on the phones
doing like 400 calls a day, I'mtired.
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So I was like, okay, I can't doit.
I got to just permanently putit on hold.
But I was just like, what aboutmy Sundays?
What about my Saturdays?
How am I going to do this?
How am I going to make it work?
And it just didn't come about.
Now I did make a choice.
I decided to leave, but myheart and soul was screaming
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keep hope alive, keep it afloat.
And I was just like, yes, thisis my mission, my goal, and I
want to find either my next jobbeing similar to this and being
able to talk to people and dothis kind of work.
But in the meantime I was likeI always wanted to write a book.
I started my book.
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I'm on chapter eight right nowand I'm just so proud of myself
because usually the way when Iwas going to school, I'd give up
so easy.
But I was like, no, this needsto be heard and I know I can do
guest speaking from my book.
They should turn my book into amovie, hopefully.
So I have these goals, and thenI decided to take a course and
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learn all these new AI tools.
So it's me creating this imageof what is going to make me
happy right now, and that's mystory at age 47.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So let me go back for a moment, because you said this
sort of almost a discomfort insaying the vision board.
Um, I don't want to discountthe benefit of hope, of a future
, of goals, of a vision.
What I'm saying is you don'tattach to that future vision.
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It doesn't become your workbecause your work is only ever
right here, it's not in thefuture.
You cannot control that visionboard.
It's just an image in your mind.
A lot of people are workingtowards that thing so much they
don't experience now.
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Their whole mind is there andthat's where the trouble begins.
That's the externalizing thisthing and missing.
You'll see people working sohard for their future and their
family and everything that theymiss their child growing up,
hard for their future and theirfamily and everything that they
miss their child growing up, andthey have this realization at
50 that they they missed theirchild's uh, childhood because
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they were living in a futureplace that they believed was the
great achievement for the child.
But the reality is the greatachievement is being right here
with the child.
You can't control tomorrow.
Yesterday has happened.
Those places have no benefit toyour life.
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To have a vision that you wantto achieve is great, but you
don't live in it and takeyourself psychologically out of
the present moment.
And this is what we do withgoals so often, and so we're not
really present, we're notreally conscious now.
Our thought is always tomorrow.
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Oh, I need that.
Meeting is going to help me dothis.
Oh, I got to pick up that book.
I want to read that.
We're always having thesethoughts that are not here,
they're somewhere else, and thisis what disrupts the life.
And so we think when we get tothat vision board, I'm going to
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be happy.
I know it because I feel happywhen I think about it.
We can't get there.
There is no getting there.
You're here now.
Now is the happy?
Not one day, not one day, it'sjust only ever.
Right here.
When you look at yourgranddaughter and you feel that
warmth, you're only feeling itbecause you're being present
with her.
Yeah, you could just as easilylook at her and your mind is
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going a hundred miles an hourabout something that went wrong
yesterday and not get that samewarmth because you're
disconnected from the moment.
That is what we do so often inour life.
That's why we're sleepwalkingHabits and routines that we
follow every day, we've repeateda million times, and they're
simple.
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I drive home from work after abig long day.
I walk into the house, slap mykeys down on the counter and
they're simple.
I drive home from work after abig long day.
I walk into the house, slap mykeys down on the counter and the
sound of the keys hitting thecounter and I go.
I don't even remember drivinghome.
I can't think of anything aboutthat drive.
We've all had that experience.
But we just sleepwalk throughsomething and then we wake up
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and go, wow, I don't rememberdoing that.
Yeah, this is the power of beingin the past or the future and
being able to function.
We've practiced it all theyears of our life and so we
think it's normal.
That's the story.
We believe it's normal becausewe live in it.
But being present are thosemoments when you go, look at
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that beautiful little girl andthere's nothing important in the
world outside of right.
Then, and the reason is thereis nothing important in the
world outside of that.
That's the reality.
Well, why don't we live in thereality all the time?
There's no reason not to.
That's our destination, that'swhat we all want, that's what we
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were at birth.
We will be at death.
Why not fill our life with it.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We need to, we need to.
So do you have all those stepslined out?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And that's the simplicity that is so hard to do
.
Yeah, because you've beeneducated to believe.
Look at this big, crazy world.
It's complex, it's difficultand we have to struggle.
We have to compete and fightand get what we need.
We've been taught this, butit's not true.
There's no truth to it.
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Here's a step.
I just watched on the news lastmonth during the fires in LA.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And the backdrop is that just horrendous, burned
flat environment, right yeah,and there's a woman, maybe 40,
and a man maybe 70, standingeither side of the reporter.
And the reporter looks at thewoman and she is sobbing.
I mean she is crushed.
And she says how her life isgone her house, her memories,
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everything she's worked for andput into it.
And it's just gone.
And she's devastated.
Turns out the man is her father.
He lives two blocks away, hassuffered the same loss and he's
got a smile on his face.
And the reporter sees this andthere's obviously a what the
heck?
And she looks at him and saysyou don't seem to be too upset,
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what's going on?
And he goes it's just stuff.
Seem to be too upset, what'sgoing on?
And he goes it's just stuff.
There's the secret to liferight there.
Yeah, she was completelyattached to achievement, to
getting to possessing.
Those things were thevalidation of her story, of her
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story, of her image of herself.
And he had a detached thoughtabout the whole thing and went
that's just stuff, buy morestuff, big deal.
And that's what this wholething is about.
When we attach to the outsideworld, that gives us meaning.
We can only hurt ourselvesbecause we can't control the
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outside world, because the firecan come along and take
everything away, because mychild could die, my child could
die tomorrow.
That's the reality we have nocontrol over.
So when we put all ourattachment there, we're fragile,
we're scared, so we put on ahigh visibility vest so we don't
go out, because we're in fear,because we're always looking out
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for danger, because we'reattached out.
There, you are everything youwill ever need all the strength,
all the knowledge, all theability, the courage.
You already possess it.
You already possess it, yeah,and you're pretending you need
it from somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I need it.
You're hitting on a point rightthere.
I never watch news.
I know my mom and my dad do.
They're just on to Fox News andwhatever they say, they're
right.
Yes, why don't you just stopwatching it for a couple months
and see what happens to yourlife?
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And they won't do it.
They feel the energy from otherpeople trying to report on this
happening.
And it could be wrong like 100%, but I think it's funny because
they like the reporters and Igo well, hey, your daughter has
a podcast I'm interviewing.
(30:44):
They have not watched one of myshows.
I know I get you.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I'm like I'm not reporting anything wrong and
that points to the power of thestory they believe in.
Yeah, that's the power, evensomeone I love.
I'm not paying the attention tothat.
I should, and I have arelationship with Tucker Carlson
because I trust him and believehim and he's my friend.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
He's my new kiddo.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's the power of story, that's the power of our
believing in this fantasy.
It's a belief, it's not true.
Because if you were really introuble, you know your parents
would be right there, becausethey'd wake up to the love of
you and they would be there.
But they're living in thefantasy of this created this
(31:37):
theater, and they're watching amovie that informs them and
gives them their security andbeliefs, and all their trouble
comes from that story.
And you saw it right there inwhat you just said.
You just exposed the wholething.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Well, I had to.
I mean really Because I can't.
I mean, ok, I don't watch thenews and I know if something's
really really important, it willcome through Facebook.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Exactly, and.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I remember I was at work and it came through
Facebook Betty White has passed,right has passed, and I was
like let's see if this is reallyreal.
Like that was like, okay, shedid, and it was a sad day, I
mean.
But you know, I will always beon the phone with my parents.
Oh, did you hear what happened?
(32:41):
It's all over the news.
No, I'm working, I'm makingphone calls.
I don't have time to look atthe news.
Why don't you just tell mewhat's happening?
So, even when COVID wasannounced, okay, I couldn't
watch it.
It's like an energy thing forme.
I don't want to take in allpeople's energies and just me
explode as a person, and that'sreally what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, yeah, your environment.
You can accept the environmentof this crazy world and be
freaking out every day, andpeople are.
There's a massive mental healthcrisis.
It's not because the water haschanged.
It's not anything to do withthat.
It's this immersion in theenergy of fear and insecurity
(33:27):
until your whole nervous systemis bubbling with it.
And, of course, doctors arethere to give you a disorder and
label you, because this labelwill somehow give you a security
.
And so people are out theregoing.
I'm this, I'm that, I'mdisturbed.
I have a disorder like it's abadge of honor, and this only
(33:49):
increases the fragility becausewe're all swimming with each
other going.
Yeah, we're all a mess, but atleast we're together, like a
school of fish, and what are wedoing, and so all of these
things are externalizing ourreal feelings because we don't
want to know them.
It's that couple that are likemaybe your parents age, who are
(34:10):
both sitting on their lazy boywatching the news every night.
They don't talk to each other,they don't really converse about
the news with each other, theyboth absorb it and it's almost
an addiction of externalizinglife so that we're not really
together, we're not reallysharing that beautiful, loving
human.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
See, yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent.
And you know, like when theysay, put the cell device down,
you don't need to watch it whileeating dinner, like even when I
go on a date, yes, I have kids,but I will tuck my phone away,
and I always say you know, hey,is it okay with you that I just
(34:54):
kind of glimpse at my phone tosee if the kids wrote, and
they'll say yes, and I do, and Iput it back up because I don't.
Well, for my belief, only ifyou're with someone, it
shouldn't be dedicated totechnology telling you all this
stuff.
You know, yeah, it's just, Idon't know, it feels like a way
(35:15):
of brainwashing too.
I hate to say it, but it reallyis.
Well, I mean, I mean externalgratification.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Someone just liked my TikTok, someone just asked for
a friend request.
I'm validated.
I need this constant validationbecause I don't know myself.
I only know this image ofmyself, this self, I think from
a story that has taught me Ineed you to care about me, to
(35:49):
make me more important, to makeme feel good.
I need your love.
It's the silliest thing in theworld.
I can't love you.
I can't love myself.
I am love.
I can choose to share my lovewith you.
I can't give you anything.
You can't make love.
(36:09):
You can't produce more love.
You can't lose love.
You are love.
We are this thing.
You can't make me happy or sador mad or anything.
I can only do it.
I'm the one and we pretend likesomething about you will make
(36:29):
me happy, or having someone likeme who lives in the other side
of the world, I'll never meet.
But on social media they said Ilike you and, oh my god, I feel
so good.
It's, it's pure.
This, this externalized I'malmost calling externalitis.
It's a disorder, a disease thatwe make.
(36:51):
Our whole life is out there andwe're missing it we're missing
it.
It's right here, right to peopleyou are.
Naveen Malone is the mostimportant person on planet Earth
, and it's absolutely true.
If you weren't here, therewould be no planet Earth.
You could never experience ahug, you could never say I love
(37:16):
you, you could never see thatbeautiful little girl.
You are the most importantperson on this planet, and so am
I, and so am I, and so iseveryone else and all.
The only purpose we're evergoing to have is to be happy, to
enjoy it and share it with oneanother, to find pleasure in our
(37:38):
work, pleasure in our visionboard, pleasure in our child.
That's all it's about.
It's not about to be uptightand hope you win and hope they
like me.
And oh my God, what's going tohappen if they say no, that's
just prevalent.
Yeah, you're giving away allyour responsibility to other
(37:59):
people and circumstances andcarrying the bags around and
going oh, what was me?
I'm tired, I'm sore, I hurt.
I wish I didn't have to livethis life.
I hate myself.
You're right.
You should hate yourself,because yourself is beating you
up, because it's not real.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
The mantra of the day in personal development is what
Believe in yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Now think about it.
If you're believing in yourselfand yourself is a fake, lying
to you, why would you believe inyourself?
It doesn't work.
You just continue a cycle.
I say don't believe in yourself.
Be what you are, there'snothing to believe in.
(38:46):
You don't believe in gravity,you know it's true.
Well, don't believe in yourself.
Be what you are, you're happy.
Nothing can make you not happy.
That's what you are.
Yeah, everything else isbelieving.
You can do something to me.
That person can.
(39:06):
This event at work can my kidscan get on my nerves.
It's impossible.
None of this stuff is real.
We invented it.
It we tell a story and ourindividual stories connect to
each other and they become acultural story and that's why
the whole world lives in theexternalized story, to the point
(39:30):
where I'm afraid of you andI'll build an army and fight you
in a war and kill you becauseof a story that isn't real.
The same story that almostkilled me kills people in war in
the cultural story we are allliving in.
That silly story Between birthand death is the story.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You're so right.
You are so right about that.
Now I got to stop you for onesecond and plus, you said the
key word and I was all excited.
You said mantra.
Now one of our other sponsorsis Snap Bands and they have
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(40:16):
my video is not doing too goodon my end, but my mantra word
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(40:58):
Ah yeah, and they come in alldifferent colors.
They're made out of like avegan leather.
They're very sturdy.
For example, I use mine becauseevery time I can go into the
hospital they can't find a veinon me and I'll just take a tug
and I'll say a prayer for thenurse who has to find it.
(41:19):
She doesn't know.
I did it, I had to confess,yesterday at my doctor's
appointment.
Hey, I tugged my bracelet andshe goes is that Snap Vans?
I was like, yeah, you need tobe on the show since you know
who they are.
But, yeah, definitely I wantone.
I know, right, yeah, and youcan find all their information
at wwwsnapbandscom.
(41:40):
And let me spell that for youit is S-N-A-P-P-B-A-N-D-Zcom,
and I know their proceeds.
If you get one, they will helpdifferent charities and
organizations that work withpeople going through depression
and anxiety.
So kudos to you, Snapvans.
All right, so, oh my gosh, Okay, so you're a wealth of
(42:04):
knowledge.
I really enjoy talking to you,and so are you.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
And so are you, and so is everyone.
Everyone has it.
This is not special Everyonehas it.
We have just hidden our naturalknowledge.
We all have it.
We've just covered it up.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yes, I agree 100% with that.
So you know what listeners, Iwant you to take that challenge
from me and it's coming from me.
If you're watching the news oranything that has this negative
pull, and yes it does take itfrom it and see how you feel
(42:48):
about yourself.
Get to know yourself, loveyourself, stay in the now.
Okay, that's my advice fromlistening to you too.
So, but you know just, I thinkthe message I do get from you
Dallas is the visions, like ifwe had.
(43:10):
You know, mine is sea turtles.
Let's use me.
For example, I want to go finda place for sea turtles, so I'll
quickly go on Google.
Where can I go?
Where can I swim with them?
And I think I found South Padre.
Okay, nine hours away.
Well, I can do this, maybe withthe next paycheck.
Why not just go and get it overwith?
(43:32):
Let's go do it.
And now the day we don't knowhow much more time we have on
earth and if we're going to justsit there and waste it and just
go with this routine, we'reprogrammed.
I feel like the robot, therobots that are being made right
now, what they're going to takeover our jobs soon and what Are
(43:56):
we going to get paid to go havefun and relax and live our
happiest life?
I hope so.
I mean, I would love to be paidto travel the world.
Yeah, no, kidding it now andjust be yourself and get that
(44:19):
done, like there shouldn't be astopping.
You know, but just focusing onI call it the negative can hurt
what you have see in the eyes oftoday.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I would say two things come up right away.
My snap band would say wake upthings.
Come up right away.
My snap band would say wake up.
When you wake up, to what youare, there's no longer time.
(44:51):
There's no longer time.
There is no time, time doesn'texist.
I work with elderly people,often in the gym, working out,
working on their diet, helpingthem to stay healthier, and I
will hear so often well, mytime's up.
You know, I don't have muchtime left, all this kind of talk
and I think, wow, that's toobad, because I have all day I
(45:15):
love it, I love it and I'malways because I have all day I
love it.
I love it and I'm always goingto have all day.
Yeah, there is no more timewhen you wake up.
If I got this, what I feel nowfor the last hour of my life, I
am completely satisfied with mylife.
I didn't waste a moment.
Yes, I went 60 years carryingthat baggage, believing terrible
(45:37):
things, abusing myself andothers, and when I woke up, that
60 years doesn't exist, itdoesn't matter.
No time has gone by.
That feeling of the baby and thefeeling of the dying is the
exact same feeling.
(45:57):
It didn't age, it doesn't age,it doesn't change.
You can't get more.
You can't lose it.
It's always there.
There is no time when you'rethere.
It's timeless.
You are eternal.
That's what you are and it'sthe most beautiful.
That's what you are and it'sthe most beautiful, magical
(46:22):
thing to discover.
It's that, at 12 years old, Iwalked down out on the wharf to
the dock on a lake on abeautiful August evening.
I put my sleeping bag down andI lie down and look up at that
sky and for a moment I'm justthe sky.
It is awe, wonder, stunning,stunning beauty that I can't
(46:43):
even comprehend.
And then you start thinking andyou think oh, is that one
moving?
Is that a UFO?
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Oh the thoughts come.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
But for that moment, that initial moment, you were
that pure conscious awareness ofwhat you are.
I'm now 66 years old.
I walk down that dock, out onthat wharf, put my sleeping bag
down, lie down, look up intothat beautiful starry night.
(47:14):
The exact same thing happens.
Nothing has changed.
No time has gone by since I was12 years old.
That's just a physical body ofchange.
That's just a plant, an appletree, anything in change, but
not the conscious reality.
(47:34):
But not the conscious reality.
Nothing changes.
There is no time to worry about.
You have all the time in theworld because you've got all day
and that's your life.
This is it.
When I see the turtles, that'sgoing to be great, but I'm not
waiting to see the turtles.
(47:55):
That's not a time to see theturtles.
I'm here right now and when I'mthere, I'll be here right now.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
So there's no change, there's no distance between it,
there is no time, it's not oneday.
You are here, there is only oneday, this day.
You are here, there is only oneday, this day, and when every
day is suddenly beautiful andlovely, you don't have a worry,
a concern, a thought, a problem,as I do, then it doesn't matter
(48:27):
.
Nothing else matters.
Everything else is just made upin our minds, towing us around
to places that do nothing butgive negativity.
Relying on someone's news,relying on someone treating me
right these are all fantasies wemake up.
Why live in a fantasy?
(48:48):
We agreed at the beginning.
We just want to be happy.
What are you waiting for?
It's now this, it, it is.
Yeah, wake up, this is all youget and it's everything
everything amen on the hat youwon, you won.
You won the lottery of life.
(49:09):
You got it.
You got born into this, live it.
Open your arms and embraceyourself.
This is it.
You're not going to improveyourself.
You are already perfect.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
So Dallas define hope .
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Oh, I've never been a fan of hope, ever since cancer.
I've never been a fan of hopeever since cancer.
And the reason is I saw peoplewho swallowed the pill of cancer
, the pill of fear, the pill ofI am going to die, not I might
(49:58):
die, and they tried to.
There was this conversationthat would always be there about
you have to keep hope alive,and I saw people hope and I saw
people try to survive and Iinstantly said to myself I don't
need to hope, I'm not going tosurvive, because that means I'm
(50:21):
hanging on and waiting.
I'm hoping I'll get through itand survive.
And I realized right awaythat's not a good life raft.
I need to stand up and punchthe damn thing in the face and
say I'm not ready, I'm kickingyour ass, I am out of here.
I watched people walk in.
(50:42):
I watched them show up thefirst day of radiation and they
were beaten.
They had already lost and 99%of them died.
And I watched people walk inwith an anger and I'm getting
through this, I'm going to doanything it takes and most of
(51:03):
them live.
Yeah, this thing is incrediblypowerful, but but it gave me a
bad taste for hope and forsurviving.
I didn't survive cancer.
I didn't hope to survive.
I beat its ass.
That's what happened.
Yeah, and that's how we getthrough any tough time.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Oh, yes, we have a strength.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
We all have a strength inside of us that we
can't imagine and it comes outin the worst possible moment.
Most people it just happens.
It arrives.
They don't decide to be strong,it just shows up.
It's on their side.
But you can force the loss toshow up.
(51:47):
You can decide to fail and end.
You can decide to sit down andcry.
You can decide to let the worldbeat you up.
Those are easy.
That's lazy, it's simple to dothat, but we are so strong.
It's stunning how strong peopleare.
The weakest person in theplanet is incredibly strong.
(52:11):
They just don't find it.
Sometimes they don't dig for it.
They don't look for it becausethey're looking out there.
They think out there is goingto give them what they want and
when it doesn't, they can becrushed because they never found
what they are.
They didn't open their eyes andwake up to that moment lying on
the wharf looking at the sun ofthe stars, and they didn't
(52:32):
connect that that was you.
They just let it blow by anddidn't recognize it because they
weren't awake.
So wake up, catch these momentsand tell yourself those are the
moments.
That's the real me in thebackground, saying come here, be
(52:52):
with me.
This is the best place in theworld.
You don't have to fear anything.
You've got it.
You're the winner.
This is the best place in theworld.
You don't have to fear anything.
You've got it.
You're the winner.
You're the best, you're themost important.
Live in it.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yes, agreed, agreed.
I know, in the book I'm writing, it's about taking an
initiative and being strong, andit's about you being strong
because nobody, nobody else, wasgoing to do it and I had to
learn that for me no one can?
Yeah, definitely now, dallas, Isee the four books and I want
(53:28):
to learn about these books fromyou, okay well they are the
journey back.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Okay, you know, the first book right here is Combat
Cancer, and I wrote that as Istarted to come out of the year
of collapse, because cancermeant I had to rebuild my body.
I was physically broken downand so I had to learn I had to
see cancer as this fight, not assomething that happened to me.
(54:00):
I recognized I gave myselfcancer and that's a huge turning
point in responsibility.
I know it's not genetic, it'sepigenetic.
My genes, all our genes, aredisposed to have cancer as a
possibility.
But what triggers it isepigenetics, is how I live my
(54:24):
lifestyle.
I spent 50 years crying andworrying and in pain and
struggling and regret and shameand anxiety.
That alone can cause it.
Shame and anxiety, that alonecan cause it.
Then I added alcohol and crappyfood and bad relationships and
anger and fighting.
That alone could cause it.
So when I realized I gavemyself cancer, what an
(54:49):
empowerment.
If I gave it to me, I don'thave to keep it.
If I'm the one who gave it tome, I can fight it.
If it just happened, if God didthis to me, if my genes did
this to me, then I'm notresponsible.
So I can lie down and cry, andthis is the difference.
(55:10):
So for me, radicalresponsibility is the building
block of it all.
And that's what that was.
And then I had to take theactual steps.
So the second book is calledthe Step System, because I
realized I couldn't bite a greatbig chunk of get my life back.
(55:31):
I didn't want my life back.
I did not want the life I had.
That would be another disaster.
So I knew somewhere I'd takesmall steps in a new direction.
One little step.
You wake up in the morning.
Don't sit down on that couchand throw on YouTube and drink
your coffee.
Go for a 30 minute walk, justdo that.
(55:54):
And that was all I did.
One step Go for a 30 minutewalk, just do that.
And that was all I did.
One one step Go for a 30 minutewalk.
Then I added I have a stickerright here on my TV.
You can just see it right there, gotcha.
What does it say?
It says get off your ass.
I like that.
The TV knows I'm sitting therestaring at it and I shouldn't be
(56:16):
.
I like that.
The TV knows I'm sitting therestaring at it and I shouldn't be
.
So then I put a sticker on myfridge.
A small step.
The sticker says what's goinginto your mouth.
To wake me up when I get to thefridge, Instead of sleepwalking
and grabbing some junk andthrowing it in my mouth, it made
me go oh yeah, I should eatsomething a little bit better.
(56:37):
And so every day startedfilling up with little stickers
I'd put around the house.
To do what?
To keep me awake, to keep mefocused on now, my life.
The only way to really makelife better is to be here, not
in the goal in the future, notin the fear of the past.
To be here and not in the goalin the future, not in the fear
of the past.
To be here and take thoselittle bites, yeah.
(57:01):
So this led me automatically tothe third book, which is called
Live Long with a Fit Five Life.
I came up with the five basicsof fitness, and they are
physical fitness, food fitness,mental fitness, social fitness
(57:22):
and sleep fitness.
Let me start with sleep.
Sleep is a huge issue today.
Many, many people don't sleepwell.
I didn't sleep well for 25years.
As soon as I got physicalfitness, food fitness, mental
fitness and social fitnessfigured out, sleep was fixed.
I sleep like a baby every night.
(57:42):
I didn't sleep for 25 years andI tried the pillows and the
mattress and all thesetechniques and you name it.
You know evening routines andall sorts of things.
It was when I got my head right.
All that baggage wasn't beingtaken to bed.
My mind didn't race, it justsaid everything's great and boom
(58:06):
, sleep like a baby.
So that book led me into workingin gyms.
People would see me, they sawthe change.
They'd come up to me Prettysoon.
You're coaching, you're helpingother people, and this
roadblock kept coming up withalmost every single person, some
of them in great shape, eatingreally well, have great friends.
(58:29):
But this one thing keptcropping up in the background
their emotional baggage fromtheir story.
They were doing everything theycould, but they weren't dealing
with the story.
So when I go to the gym andwork out, I don't work out to
(58:49):
look good, to hope someone willsay wow, you look great for that
age.
I'm impressed.
That's the danger of the story.
I go to the gym because itmakes me feel good, because I
enjoy it, it's for my pleasure.
Right then, it's almostmeditation to me.
(59:10):
I am completely focused and inthe moment.
And that's the difference.
I'm not in a story, I'm in mylife, doing it.
So this led me to this problem.
Why has everybody got thisproblem?
What's in the way they've gotall these pieces?
They seem to be right andthey're still not happy.
(59:30):
And that's when it began totrigger in me that the happiness
is this thing and it's beingcovered by this story, we
believe.
And so then I wrote the gift isthe present, as in the present
moment.
Yes, the move for me was if mylife collapsed, I need to
(59:53):
collapse my life, and what thatmeans is life isn't a great big
event.
It isn't a great big story If Ihave 24 hours in a day and I
sleep for eight.
16 hours is my life.
And so if I just collapse mylife to one day and say, in this
(01:00:14):
one day, can I eat a littlebetter, collapse my life to one
day and say, in this one day,can I eat a little better?
Yeah, I could probably do thatfor one day.
Could I go for a walk, do someexercise?
Yeah, I could probably do thatin a day.
Could I go to my work andreally focus on it and do the
best I can?
Yeah, I can probably do that ina day.
Could I phone a friend or aloved one and tell them I love
(01:00:35):
them.
Yeah, I could probably do thatin a day.
The day is simple and it'severything.
Just do it for one day, likeAlcoholics Anonymous would tell
me.
Just do it for one day.
Just don't drink one day.
One day at a time is your lifeyes, agreed I quit alcohol like
(01:00:58):
that, after 10 years of tryingand struggle and pain and
violence and anger.
I quit like that, not because Itried to quit, because I put
down the baggage that I wasdrinking for.
I was drinking because of thepain.
When the pain disappeared, Ihad no reason to drink.
(01:01:21):
So it ended no withdrawal, no,nothing.
Because it wasn't real, it wasa medication.
It was that externalizingeverything in our life that we
think is so important.
I need you, I need yourappreciation, I need you to be
with me.
This is the mistake.
(01:01:42):
You have it, you have it all.
You get to share it with love,and then I just love being with
you.
Not I need to be with you.
Exactly me.
(01:02:12):
Different.
It does not feed a purpose,because they have everything
they need.
You have everything you need.
That's the understanding thatmakes us one the same.
We are each other.
I am the baby.
I am my mother's face whenshe's dying.
We are everything.
(01:02:34):
We have it all.
We are everything.
We have it all we do.
We do.
The next, the next book, whichis almost there, is going, is
going deeper, is going deeperinto this and is purely about
the story, mind andtransitioning, understanding it
and working our way out of it tojust be happy.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yeah, I'm glad you have another one coming out and
I want to see more and more.
I don't decide to.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
You're going to do it .
They're not a goal or anything.
I just open my mouth or pick upa pen and it just comes out
Good, good.
I can't even tell you whereit's coming from.
I couldn't tell you.
I wasn't even tell you whereit's coming from.
I couldn't tell you I wasn't aspeaker.
And then I got back on my feetand found this door and this
light poured in and I opened mymouth and this is what comes out
(01:03:25):
.
It's not planned.
I don't go, this is what I'mgoing to do, it just happens,
it's just here.
Yeah, you have the same thing.
You couldn't do a podcast ifyou didn't have it all already.
Your best podcasts are whenthey just happen.
(01:03:47):
Right, you don't try and makethem happen, they just develop,
they just go, they just, theyjust spill out all over the
screen, and that's the beauty.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
And it is Like none of this is pre-scripted or
anything.
I interview with my heart andsoul, so you never know what's
going to come out of my mouth,but I do think our listeners
would want to know.
Well, first of all, on mywebsite at
(01:04:20):
keephopealivepodcastcom, thereis a storefront so you will be
able to get his books afterwatching his episode and
everything.
But let's hear from you, likeif somebody wanted to connect
with you what are your socialsand how do you go about that?
Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
if somebody wanted to connect with you what are your
socials and how do you go aboutthat?
Well, you know, nadine, in thisday and age, if they have your
name, there's no place to hide.
So I just tell them Dallas,call us at gmailcom.
It's an email, that's all youneed.
Connect, connect, let's talk.
Anyone can talk.
Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I mean, there's nothing to fear here.
That's awesome.
Yeah, so definitely make itsimple.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
It's all simple.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Make it simple just like picking up the telephone
back in the day.
Do you remember all that beforeall this internet stuff, my
goodness being attached to thewall, and is my mom listening?
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
she's gonna know.
So often, so often I have thisthought that if we've never had
that telephone back then and weonly had the internet world, and
then today someone inventedthis telephone on the wall.
You just pick it up, dial sevennumbers and there's your mom,
(01:05:35):
we would go, wow, wow, whattechnology.
This is way better than a cellphone.
I get you right here, right now, live in person.
It's funny how that evolvedinto a strange social system.
That's much, messier.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Oh, I know, I know A lot of changes and everything we
think it's advanced.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
I know, I know a lot of changes and everything, so we
think it's advanced.
Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
I know, I know, I mean, I think it's funny.
I was talking with a person Iinterviewed a couple days ago
and she was a librarian and Isaid, well, do you still have
the card catalog?
And she's like no, everything'sdigital now and they just
scanned the barcode and I waslike, oh, and she goes.
But some of the kids will openup the book and see that
(01:06:22):
placeholder and be like, whoa,this is an antique book.
Yeah, I'm not feeling old.
Oh, that's funny.
But I'm glad records came backout.
I'm just kind of done with.
You know what is it?
The cds and stuff andeverything.
And you know I I take pride oftrying to learn what's new, but
(01:06:46):
sometimes I need my little son,who's 12, to help me and I'm
like I remember I really think.
Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
One of the conflicts here is we are analog beings and
we're trying to live in adigital world, and there's a
conflict in our brains.
Because we're analog, we needto touch each other, smell each
other, taste each other, be apart of each other, and that's
analog.
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Yep, gotcha, yep, definitely Well.
Dallas, I want to say thank youso much for coming on, keep
Hope Alive today, and thank youfor having me Telling us about
your journey, the books thatyou've written and the new ones
that are possibly coming out,and yours.
Well, I'm not going to say I'mjust happy.
(01:07:34):
I'm just happy with myself atthis time because, overdoing
interviews of different authorsand everything I knew, I was a
better talker and interviewerand podcaster.
But I also knew that whathappened to me in my life should
be shared and I just had, therewas a fear.
(01:07:57):
I'll tell you, there's still alittle fear.
What happened to me was not easyfor anybody to read or hear.
It's very, I don't know, it'slife-changing.
So but when I sit down in themorning and start writing, I sit
(01:08:19):
down in the morning and startwriting.
It's taken that and putting itout there into the world and how
it was seen.
And you know, I think, justwhen it does come out, I'm
hoping and well, I got to learnabout author life because I know
I'm not the best of writers I'mgoing to have to send it up and
have somebody read it orsomething.
Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
It's art.
It's art.
You're doing your art.
You have no choice.
Don't try and evaluate yourself.
Judge yourself, compareyourself.
You are great the way you are.
Just go with who you are.
Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Just put it on by just sticky notes and send to
the world.
Go for it.
Yep, definitely, I sure will.
But you know, one day theremight be, hopefully, a podcast.
Yeah, I just that's going to besomething I got to build into
because it feels like I'mopening a whole new door into
(01:09:14):
this whole new world with thisbook and everything.
I'm excited for the journey.
Take the baby steps.
Take the baby steps.
Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Keep going.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
I will, I will, I definitely will.
So thank you so much.
And like I was about to say, Iwant to bring you back next year
.
I want to see how time hasprogressed with you and what's
new out there and everything andother than that, guys, wherever
you guys find your podcast,you'll find Keep Hope Alive also
(01:09:47):
the website atwwwkeephopelivepodcastcom.
If you would like to be a guest, let us know.
And if you do have questionsfor Dallas on the website there
is a little side button.
It says leave message.
Anything that you leave I willsend over to Dallas and we'll
(01:10:08):
get that answered right away.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Thank you, Nadine, I appreciate you, you're welcome,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Thank you Until our next show.
Guys, love and light, bye-bye.
hello and welcome to keep up a live podcast.
Today I have the privilege ofmeeting mr dallas collins.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
I'm so glad you're here, thanksfor having me you're welcome.
We can see that you're anauthor.
Your latest book is that a giftPresent, correct?
(00:25):
I hope I said that right.
The Gift is Present.
I want to say the Present it isthe Present.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh, it is the Present .
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Okay, gotcha, and we're going to be diving into
his story, going over hisjourney of how he's writing
books and what it's like to, Iguess, be you in the world and
bring joy and happiness topeople.
But before I get started I havea question for you Out of the
(00:53):
past year how many weddings haveyou been to?
Oh, zero.
Zero.
Okay, Well, pretend.
Some friends of ours invited usto go to a wedding and we're
walking into the ceremony siteand off to the right.
There's something there that weneed to sign.
What is it that we are needingto sign?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That would be a guest book.
I haven't signed one in 10years.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I know right, they do them all different.
Well, I've seen Jenga, I'veseen the picture frames, and now
I see a little foil tree youcan make and I was like, oh,
these are all interesting, butmy favorite is Life on Record.
And they're one of our biggestsponsors here at Keep Hope Alive
and what they do is, instead ofthat guest book, they do a
(01:41):
vintage rotary phone so yourguests can come up to it, pick
up, leave a message, whetherit's one minute, five minutes,
30 minutes, but at a wedding, do30 minutes, yeah.
And right next to it it has aQR scan code that the guests can
use their own cell phones touse and scan it to leave a
message before or after.
(02:01):
Now, the great thing, a messagebefore or after Now, the great
thing.
They're collecting the voice,which is a gift to us, so we get
to hear it back, and what theydo is burn all those messages
either on a 12-inch vinyl recordor they have a keepsake box
they call it the little boom boxthat they put it on.
Their plans start at $99.
(02:22):
You get the phone number.
You have to return the phone,but you get the phone number for
a whole year, so you can, likeI said, use this.
Weddings, family reunions, maybebirthday parties, big corporate
events, it All right, that'sreally cool.
I know it is.
(02:49):
I was like I need to plan a bigparty, I want to use that.
So now I did use it.
Last year and I even did apodcast.
It was called Hush and it's thefirst podcast I did that I
actually ever cried in, but itwas about my son's football team
and another team.
(03:09):
There was a really bad legaccident on one of our team
members and how coaches handledit.
It wasn't our team.
We were worried about the kidthat got hurt, but the other
team was coming right at us andfighting with the coaches' wives
and parents were gettinginvolved.
(03:30):
It was a mess, but yeah, thatone was very hard.
So I used Life on Record, gaveeverybody in our app that phone
number to call and wish a boywell for his leg Nice, so that
was a good use of it.
Boy well for his leg, nice, sothat was a good use of it.
That is my favorite story rightthere.
(03:51):
So, let's get to it.
I'm so excited.
So who is Dallas Collis?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, let's start just before that, because I
think a great conversation needsa foundation.
That because I think a greatconversation needs a foundation.
And the foundation for this iswhat do we all want?
What does everyone want fromtheir life?
What did your parents want foryou, what do you want for your
(04:18):
children?
And, in the final analysis,when we boil it down, it's not
to be a doctor or an astronautor someone famous, it's to be
healthy and happy.
So if we can agree that reallyhuman beings have one
destination to try to find theirhappy, beautiful, loving place
(04:39):
to relax, enjoy and just behappy.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Can we go with that?
Yeah, I want to go with that,because I'm picturing a beach
right now, so you got me.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So if happiness is our destination, what are?
we waiting for?
We shouldn't be waiting, right.
And that's where the storyhappens.
You are a story, I am a story,we are storytellers.
I meet Nadine at a coffee baror wherever Someone introduces
(05:14):
me to you and I say nice to meetyou, tell me something about
yourself.
And you start telling me yourstory.
So we are our story from birth.
Everything that happens,everything we perceive and
experience, we're taught, wetaste, we touch, we smell, we
fall down, get up, everythingbecomes a part of our history
(05:38):
that we then identify as that isthe self, is the story I see
behind me, what I've beenthrough, my memories, my history
, and, like any human being, thestart of that story building is
often trauma, because theexperience of coming into this
(06:00):
world is trauma on its own.
And things happen.
You know, I was psychologicallyand physically bullied and
abused as a child.
I came out of my early yearsknowing I was not smart enough,
not good enough, didn't measureup.
I failed.
I failed in school, I failed ontests, I failed in grades
(06:23):
completely.
So that's the message that getsput into my story and that's
what we call emotional baggage.
Yes, and we call it thatbecause we carry that baggage
with us, some of us for ourentire lives, and there's always
a nagging difficulty, stress,worry, shame, guilt, regret.
(06:47):
We create anxiety.
What might happen next?
All these things come from that, what I call the story mind,
this invented, created movie anda script that we follow and
identify as the self.
Who I am, and I can tell youwho I am.
(07:10):
Well, of course, this has someproblems and, like every human
being, we look for ways to dealwith it and we deal with it by
the education that tells us it'sall out there.
So our first addiction is blame.
We blame what happened to us,we blame someone who did
something to us, we blame school, we blame the church, we blame
(07:31):
the upbringing, we blame afriend.
We grow, and we blame our boss.
And we blame the traffic.
And we blame the environment,the government, politics, you
name it.
We blame the economy, we blameour kids.
For making me angry today, Iblame my wife, for it just goes
on and on.
And this whole I call it anaddiction because what it does
(07:56):
is it keeps us from our own self, from ever facing the baggage
we carry, from ever facing thebaggage we carry.
We're using it like amedication, like an addict does,
to not feel the pain, to nottake responsibility for what I'm
(08:17):
feeling.
So of course, the blame beginsto wear off if you've got a lot
of pain.
And so then I chose alcohol,because alcohol is a better
medication.
It's stronger and I go drinkingand party with friends and have
fun and the pain is not there.
I'm having a great life.
This is fine.
But then you do it too long andit begins to turn on you and
(08:39):
pretty soon you can't stop andyou have to up the medication.
Get stronger medication, getmore, add some drugs.
I'm in a 25-year marriage withmy wife and she's in the exact
same boat, carrying anger andpain from her trauma and
medicating with drugs andalcohol along with me.
(08:59):
And so we enable each other tostay unresponsible for our lives
.
And from the outside.
We have a house, we have carsin the driveway, vacations, a
business together, two beautifulchildren.
We're normal, right, we're thenormal, successful, middle-class
(09:19):
family.
Everyone sees, and aren't theyterrific?
But under that roof is a storm,a war, an absolute tragedy for
our children as well, a shameyou would carry forever from it.
Well, I got lucky.
Not long into the greatpandemic, I woke up one morning
(09:44):
with cancer the luckiest day ofmy life.
I had started a 12-year periodto the day of being diagnosed
with cancer, going throughtreatment, losing my wife,
losing my house, losing myfamily in any way you can
imagine that being losing ourbusiness, ending up alone,
(10:10):
broken, alcoholic and suicidal.
In exactly one year, all thathappened.
So I call that the year of lifecollapse.
Now, there's a good thing tothat.
If any one of those things hadhappened, it could have been a
tragedy for my life, I think,because it all happened together
.
There was no time for it to bea tragedy.
It was simply trying to hold onto the lifeboat and get through
(10:32):
it.
There was no time to actuallyabsorb pain from it.
But what it did was wake me upto this false reality of who.
I believe.
I was the false self and I nowbelieve we are all a false self
because we are that story.
(10:53):
I didn't create that story.
You didn't create your story.
Your experience and environmentand people's opinions and
education and parenting thatcreated the story.
You never chose it.
You became an identity thathappened to you.
So my entire life, my entirelife, is believed to be this
(11:18):
story, our history.
One day, soon after, I'm tryingto understand how to get my
life back together, how to getphysically healthy and stronger,
how to be able to live and goforward.
I'm listening to a podcast inthe background making dinner one
night, and a man on the podcastsaid one line, and you know
(11:39):
that hit me like a ton of bricksoh yeah, I've never, I've never
believed that that's sort ofHollywood, you know, struck by a
ton of bricks.
Oh yeah, I've never believedthat.
That's sort of Hollywood, youknow, struck by a bolt of
lightning.
And I always thought that wassilly.
Well, I got to experience it.
And what the man said was showme yesterday.
That was it my brain said showme yesterday, nadine, can I go
(12:07):
to the cupboard, pull outyesterday and go here?
What do you think?
I don't know, could you?
No, of course we can't.
We know we can't, but I hadbased my whole life on yesterday
.
Yesterday almost killed me, andnow I have to see in my mind
(12:28):
what is the reality of ouryesterday, what is the reality
of our story outside of just amemory?
What is the truth of a memory?
How could just a memory almostkill me in the real life of
today?
I mean that opened the doorwide and said it's just a story.
(12:51):
It's just a belief.
You believe things 10 years agoyou don't believe right now.
You will believe things in 10years that you don't believe
right now.
So what is a belief?
How true is it?
It's only as true as youbelieve it is.
When that happened, my selfcould collapse.
(13:12):
I could get rid of myself.
I don't need a self.
Who needs a self-image?
There's no reason for it.
It's a story we believe and thestory pushes us around, directs
us, gives us opinion and ideasand response.
What for To uphold a story thatisn't even really me?
(13:35):
So what's the truth of me?
And, I think, the truth of us?
We already started there.
I think the truth of us.
We already started there.
We are what we seek the beauty,the love and the happiness.
That's as you are born.
Look into the eyes and face of abrand new baby, fresh out of
(13:56):
the oven, and what you see islove, beauty, happiness.
You don't have any judgment, itjust is.
What you're seeing is not thebaby.
You're seeing your reflectionof your heart in the baby.
It's showing you.
This is who you really are, nota who, not a self.
(14:22):
What what you are.
My mother died six weeks ago,two hours before her death, I
looked down into her face andher eyes and what do you think I
saw?
I saw the baby.
I saw love, beauty andhappiness At the start and at
(14:47):
the end.
What we are is always revealedIn between.
We cloud it with a story andthe story gives us every problem
we can face in life.
Every worry, every concern,every regret, every shame, every
anxiety is only in the story.
It's not in what we are.
(15:08):
There's no shame, guilt,anxiety, fear or pain in love
and beauty and happiness.
That baby has no story.
It has none of those thingsattached to it.
And at death, almost everysingle person says what their
only regret is the time theyspent in that story and not
(15:29):
being in where Love, beauty andhappiness with their family,
their friends, the importantthings.
This is always right behind uslike a clear blue sky and
sunshine, but we end up staringat all the clouds and the rain
and the storm and we thinkthat's important.
We go into school and what doesschool teach us?
(15:49):
To make the grade, to reach thegoal, to be able to jump the
hoop, measure up, get an a andyou're smart, get an f and
you're stupid.
It's always external.
We will find the happiness, thebeauty and the love out there.
Get a house, get a beautifulhot wife, get a beautiful hot
(16:12):
car.
Reach, grow, succeed, strive,grind, discipline.
Always external, the same asthe addiction to stay away from
the pain, always external, thesame as the addiction to stay
away from the pain.
And so what happens?
95% of people don't reach theirgoals.
They don't go after theirdreams.
They give up.
They make, do, they get a jobthat works, they pay the bills,
(16:37):
they can put a roof over theirhead and they're satisfied and
they carry on.
But that pain is always there,in the background, maybe only
subtly, but it's saying you'retrying to get to a place that
(16:57):
you always are and you're notlooking at it.
And so the journey we've createdis to get somewhere, to be
something, to achieve something.
It's all fool's game.
We have been fooled.
We can just be love andhappiness and beauty every
single day, and people will sayto me they'll say, well, you
can't just sit around and belove and happy and beautiful.
(17:17):
What about paying the bills anddoing your job and looking
after your kids?
We only ever do that right now,in this day.
We don't do it tomorrow, wedon't do it yesterday, we do it
right now.
Every day is only right now.
So where do you think you'regoing?
We're not going anywhere.
We're doing what we're doinghere and now.
(17:40):
We're not doing it somewhereelse, and we get confused,
thinking it's going to take ussomewhere.
It's going to have a benefitfor us to reach.
The benefit is here.
You already won.
Everything else is just playingtowards something.
I'm going to be better, I'mgoing to improve
(18:03):
Self-improvement.
For 100 years has been doingwhat?
Taking your story and then, ontop of it, saying, ah, I can
change and be better, and itdoesn't work.
And it doesn't work.
It can't work because the storyis still there.
I've written down the goal I'mgoing to be wealthy and I'm
(18:23):
going to take all these stepsand do this work.
I'm going to get this education.
I've written down the goal I'mgoing to be wealthy and I'm
going to take all these stepsand do this work.
I'm going to get this education.
I've written every step down.
I know exactly how I'm going todo it.
I've got the strategy.
I've got the tools.
I'm building the skills.
I'm driving, I'm grinding everyday.
I'm imagining my future and inthe back of my mind is a little
voice from my story going, andin the back of my mind is a
(18:44):
little voice from my story goingyou're not going to do it,
you're not good enough, you'renot going to get there.
And so we wonder why we struggleand struggle and we fail and we
go on, try the next one.
And every year we've even madeup a thing at New Year's to do
what?
To set another goal.
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It's this constant treadmillbecause we think we're going
somewhere.
We're not going anywhere, we'realready here, your whole life
is here, it's only here, itexists nowhere else.
So there's my story.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Take it away that is a huge story, a very eye-opening
story like, yeah, we're writingour stories right now, and this
is the midst of time.
I'm a new grandma, so I seewhen my granddaughter looks at
me and you know she's soinnocent and sweet and I'll be
(19:42):
getting ready to do a podcast.
Put my makeup on, I go.
Are we going?
to do makeup soon and she'lljust kind of smile and giggle
and it lightens my heart.
But you know, when we wereyounger I didn't have really
full memories until maybe likefive or six years old, and then
(20:03):
from there going, you see howtime flies as you get older.
I'm only 47, but I knew whenthe forties came I was noticing,
hey, things are going faster,this earth is spinning faster.
Who am I?
What am I going to do with mytime, my purpose?
And I found out what my purposewas.
I'm awake, I know and I meanyes, I've told people in the
(20:28):
past to create a vision for it,to see what you want and go
after it.
Having that vision but also yougot me thinking and I can't
believe I'm going to be sayingthis, but it's the real truth.
Now, keep Hope Alive.
What started a year ago, that'sgreat.
(20:48):
I think I was like at 193episodes and I was like, wow,
okay, I'm getting awarded forrelationship, mental health.
You know, podcast is great.
And then I took a full-time job.
All my time and energy went tothe job and I could feel like
inside of me okay, well, it'spaying the bills.
(21:11):
I like doing it.
The people are really supernice I go.
But my heart started hurting andI tried to do a couple, which I
only landed one or two and Iwas like this is just becoming a
lot at work, because at the endof the day, being on the phones
doing like 400 calls a day, I'mtired.
(21:32):
So I was like, okay, I can't doit.
I got to just permanently putit on hold.
But I was just like, what aboutmy Sundays?
What about my Saturdays?
How am I going to do this?
How am I going to make it work?
And it just didn't come about.
Now I did make a choice.
I decided to leave, but myheart and soul was screaming
(21:57):
keep hope alive, keep it afloat.
And I was just like, yes, thisis my mission, my goal, and I
want to find either my next jobbeing similar to this and being
able to talk to people and dothis kind of work.
But in the meantime I was likeI always wanted to write a book.
I started my book.
(22:17):
I'm on chapter eight right nowand I'm just so proud of myself
because usually the way when Iwas going to school, I'd give up
so easy.
But I was like, no, this needsto be heard and I know I can do
guest speaking from my book.
They should turn my book into amovie, hopefully.
So I have these goals, and thenI decided to take a course and
(22:41):
learn all these new AI tools.
So it's me creating this imageof what is going to make me
happy right now, and that's mystory at age 47.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So let me go back for a moment, because you said this
sort of almost a discomfort insaying the vision board.
Um, I don't want to discountthe benefit of hope, of a future
, of goals, of a vision.
What I'm saying is you don'tattach to that future vision.
(23:22):
It doesn't become your workbecause your work is only ever
right here, it's not in thefuture.
You cannot control that visionboard.
It's just an image in your mind.
A lot of people are workingtowards that thing so much they
don't experience now.
(23:44):
Their whole mind is there andthat's where the trouble begins.
That's the externalizing thisthing and missing.
You'll see people working sohard for their future and their
family and everything that theymiss their child growing up,
hard for their future and theirfamily and everything that they
miss their child growing up, andthey have this realization at
50 that they they missed theirchild's uh, childhood because
(24:08):
they were living in a futureplace that they believed was the
great achievement for the child.
But the reality is the greatachievement is being right here
with the child.
You can't control tomorrow.
Yesterday has happened.
Those places have no benefit toyour life.
(24:30):
To have a vision that you wantto achieve is great, but you
don't live in it and takeyourself psychologically out of
the present moment.
And this is what we do withgoals so often, and so we're not
really present, we're notreally conscious now.
Our thought is always tomorrow.
(24:51):
Oh, I need that.
Meeting is going to help me dothis.
Oh, I got to pick up that book.
I want to read that.
We're always having thesethoughts that are not here,
they're somewhere else, and thisis what disrupts the life.
And so we think when we get tothat vision board, I'm going to
(25:13):
be happy.
I know it because I feel happywhen I think about it.
We can't get there.
There is no getting there.
You're here now.
Now is the happy?
Not one day, not one day, it'sjust only ever.
Right here.
When you look at yourgranddaughter and you feel that
warmth, you're only feeling itbecause you're being present
with her.
Yeah, you could just as easilylook at her and your mind is
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going a hundred miles an hourabout something that went wrong
yesterday and not get that samewarmth because you're
disconnected from the moment.
That is what we do so often inour life.
That's why we're sleepwalkingHabits and routines that we
follow every day, we've repeateda million times, and they're
simple.
(25:59):
I drive home from work after abig long day.
I walk into the house, slap mykeys down on the counter and
they're simple.
I drive home from work after abig long day.
I walk into the house, slap mykeys down on the counter and the
sound of the keys hitting thecounter and I go.
I don't even remember drivinghome.
I can't think of anything aboutthat drive.
We've all had that experience.
But we just sleepwalk throughsomething and then we wake up
(26:20):
and go, wow, I don't rememberdoing that.
Yeah, this is the power of beingin the past or the future and
being able to function.
We've practiced it all theyears of our life and so we
think it's normal.
That's the story.
We believe it's normal becausewe live in it.
But being present are thosemoments when you go, look at
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that beautiful little girl andthere's nothing important in the
world outside of right.
Then, and the reason is thereis nothing important in the
world outside of that.
That's the reality.
Well, why don't we live in thereality all the time?
There's no reason not to.
That's our destination, that'swhat we all want, that's what we
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were at birth.
We will be at death.
Why not fill our life with it.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We need to, we need to.
So do you have all those stepslined out?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And that's the simplicity that is so hard to do
.
Yeah, because you've beeneducated to believe.
Look at this big, crazy world.
It's complex, it's difficultand we have to struggle.
We have to compete and fightand get what we need.
We've been taught this, butit's not true.
There's no truth to it.
(27:39):
Here's a step.
I just watched on the news lastmonth during the fires in LA.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And the backdrop is that just horrendous, burned
flat environment, right yeah,and there's a woman, maybe 40,
and a man maybe 70, standingeither side of the reporter.
And the reporter looks at thewoman and she is sobbing.
I mean she is crushed.
And she says how her life isgone her house, her memories,
(28:13):
everything she's worked for andput into it.
And it's just gone.
And she's devastated.
Turns out the man is her father.
He lives two blocks away, hassuffered the same loss and he's
got a smile on his face.
And the reporter sees this andthere's obviously a what the
heck?
And she looks at him and saysyou don't seem to be too upset,
(28:37):
what's going on?
And he goes it's just stuff.
Seem to be too upset, what'sgoing on?
And he goes it's just stuff.
There's the secret to liferight there.
Yeah, she was completelyattached to achievement, to
getting to possessing.
Those things were thevalidation of her story, of her
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story, of her image of herself.
And he had a detached thoughtabout the whole thing and went
that's just stuff, buy morestuff, big deal.
And that's what this wholething is about.
When we attach to the outsideworld, that gives us meaning.
We can only hurt ourselvesbecause we can't control the
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outside world, because the firecan come along and take
everything away, because mychild could die, my child could
die tomorrow.
That's the reality we have nocontrol over.
So when we put all ourattachment there, we're fragile,
we're scared, so we put on ahigh visibility vest so we don't
go out, because we're in fear,because we're always looking out
(29:45):
for danger, because we'reattached out.
There, you are everything youwill ever need all the strength,
all the knowledge, all theability, the courage.
You already possess it.
You already possess it, yeah,and you're pretending you need
it from somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I need it.
You're hitting on a point rightthere.
I never watch news.
I know my mom and my dad do.
They're just on to Fox News andwhatever they say, they're
right.
Yes, why don't you just stopwatching it for a couple months
and see what happens to yourlife?
(30:24):
And they won't do it.
They feel the energy from otherpeople trying to report on this
happening.
And it could be wrong like 100%, but I think it's funny because
they like the reporters and Igo well, hey, your daughter has
a podcast I'm interviewing.
(30:44):
They have not watched one of myshows.
I know I get you.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I'm like I'm not reporting anything wrong and
that points to the power of thestory they believe in.
Yeah, that's the power, evensomeone I love.
I'm not paying the attention tothat.
I should, and I have arelationship with Tucker Carlson
because I trust him and believehim and he's my friend.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
He's my new kiddo.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's the power of story, that's the power of our
believing in this fantasy.
It's a belief, it's not true.
Because if you were really introuble, you know your parents
would be right there, becausethey'd wake up to the love of
you and they would be there.
But they're living in thefantasy of this created this
(31:37):
theater, and they're watching amovie that informs them and
gives them their security andbeliefs, and all their trouble
comes from that story.
And you saw it right there inwhat you just said.
You just exposed the wholething.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Well, I had to.
I mean really Because I can't.
I mean, ok, I don't watch thenews and I know if something's
really really important, it willcome through Facebook.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Exactly, and.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I remember I was at work and it came through
Facebook Betty White has passed,right has passed, and I was
like let's see if this is reallyreal.
Like that was like, okay, shedid, and it was a sad day, I
mean.
But you know, I will always beon the phone with my parents.
Oh, did you hear what happened?
(32:41):
It's all over the news.
No, I'm working, I'm makingphone calls.
I don't have time to look atthe news.
Why don't you just tell mewhat's happening?
So, even when COVID wasannounced, okay, I couldn't
watch it.
It's like an energy thing forme.
I don't want to take in allpeople's energies and just me
explode as a person, and that'sreally what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, yeah, your environment.
You can accept the environmentof this crazy world and be
freaking out every day, andpeople are.
There's a massive mental healthcrisis.
It's not because the water haschanged.
It's not anything to do withthat.
It's this immersion in theenergy of fear and insecurity
(33:27):
until your whole nervous systemis bubbling with it.
And, of course, doctors arethere to give you a disorder and
label you, because this labelwill somehow give you a security
.
And so people are out theregoing.
I'm this, I'm that, I'mdisturbed.
I have a disorder like it's abadge of honor, and this only
(33:49):
increases the fragility becausewe're all swimming with each
other going.
Yeah, we're all a mess, but atleast we're together, like a
school of fish, and what are wedoing, and so all of these
things are externalizing ourreal feelings because we don't
want to know them.
It's that couple that are likemaybe your parents age, who are
(34:10):
both sitting on their lazy boywatching the news every night.
They don't talk to each other,they don't really converse about
the news with each other, theyboth absorb it and it's almost
an addiction of externalizinglife so that we're not really
together, we're not reallysharing that beautiful, loving
human.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
See, yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent.
And you know, like when theysay, put the cell device down,
you don't need to watch it whileeating dinner, like even when I
go on a date, yes, I have kids,but I will tuck my phone away,
and I always say you know, hey,is it okay with you that I just
(34:54):
kind of glimpse at my phone tosee if the kids wrote, and
they'll say yes, and I do, and Iput it back up because I don't.
Well, for my belief, only ifyou're with someone, it
shouldn't be dedicated totechnology telling you all this
stuff.
You know, yeah, it's just, Idon't know, it feels like a way
(35:15):
of brainwashing too.
I hate to say it, but it reallyis.
Well, I mean, I mean externalgratification.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Someone just liked my TikTok, someone just asked for
a friend request.
I'm validated.
I need this constant validationbecause I don't know myself.
I only know this image ofmyself, this self, I think from
a story that has taught me Ineed you to care about me, to
(35:49):
make me more important, to makeme feel good.
I need your love.
It's the silliest thing in theworld.
I can't love you.
I can't love myself.
I am love.
I can choose to share my lovewith you.
I can't give you anything.
You can't make love.
(36:09):
You can't produce more love.
You can't lose love.
You are love.
We are this thing.
You can't make me happy or sador mad or anything.
I can only do it.
I'm the one and we pretend likesomething about you will make
(36:29):
me happy, or having someone likeme who lives in the other side
of the world, I'll never meet.
But on social media they said Ilike you and, oh my god, I feel
so good.
It's, it's pure.
This, this externalized I'malmost calling externalitis.
It's a disorder, a disease thatwe make.
(36:51):
Our whole life is out there andwe're missing it we're missing
it.
It's right here, right to peopleyou are.
Naveen Malone is the mostimportant person on planet Earth
, and it's absolutely true.
If you weren't here, therewould be no planet Earth.
You could never experience ahug, you could never say I love
(37:16):
you, you could never see thatbeautiful little girl.
You are the most importantperson on this planet, and so am
I, and so am I, and so iseveryone else and all.
The only purpose we're evergoing to have is to be happy, to
enjoy it and share it with oneanother, to find pleasure in our
(37:38):
work, pleasure in our visionboard, pleasure in our child.
That's all it's about.
It's not about to be uptightand hope you win and hope they
like me.
And oh my God, what's going tohappen if they say no, that's
just prevalent.
Yeah, you're giving away allyour responsibility to other
(37:59):
people and circumstances andcarrying the bags around and
going oh, what was me?
I'm tired, I'm sore, I hurt.
I wish I didn't have to livethis life.
I hate myself.
You're right.
You should hate yourself,because yourself is beating you
up, because it's not real.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
The mantra of the day in personal development is what
Believe in yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Now think about it.
If you're believing in yourselfand yourself is a fake, lying
to you, why would you believe inyourself?
It doesn't work.
You just continue a cycle.
I say don't believe in yourself.
Be what you are, there'snothing to believe in.
(38:46):
You don't believe in gravity,you know it's true.
Well, don't believe in yourself.
Be what you are, you're happy.
Nothing can make you not happy.
That's what you are.
Yeah, everything else isbelieving.
You can do something to me.
That person can.
(39:06):
This event at work can my kidscan get on my nerves.
It's impossible.
None of this stuff is real.
We invented it.
It we tell a story and ourindividual stories connect to
each other and they become acultural story and that's why
the whole world lives in theexternalized story, to the point
(39:30):
where I'm afraid of you andI'll build an army and fight you
in a war and kill you becauseof a story that isn't real.
The same story that almostkilled me kills people in war in
the cultural story we are allliving in.
That silly story Between birthand death is the story.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You're so right.
You are so right about that.
Now I got to stop you for onesecond and plus, you said the
key word and I was all excited.
You said mantra.
Now one of our other sponsorsis Snap Bands and they have
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We're getting some bad weatherin Texas right now and I think
(40:16):
my video is not doing too goodon my end, but my mantra word
does say hope on it, if you guyscan see that.
And on the back it has thiselastic string you can pull out
and let it dump right againstyour wrist.
Now Snap Bands is known to helpwith people who suffer from
(40:36):
depression, anxiety, PTSD I saynerves, you know whatever but
there's mantra words like peace,love, hope.
We just they just added theword faith, but you can only get
that with the code of K-H-A.
You know why?
That's keep hope alive.
(40:58):
Ah yeah, and they come in alldifferent colors.
They're made out of like avegan leather.
They're very sturdy.
For example, I use mine becauseevery time I can go into the
hospital they can't find a veinon me and I'll just take a tug
and I'll say a prayer for thenurse who has to find it.
(41:19):
She doesn't know.
I did it, I had to confess,yesterday at my doctor's
appointment.
Hey, I tugged my bracelet andshe goes is that Snap Vans?
I was like, yeah, you need tobe on the show since you know
who they are.
But, yeah, definitely I wantone.
I know, right, yeah, and youcan find all their information
at wwwsnapbandscom.
(41:40):
And let me spell that for youit is S-N-A-P-P-B-A-N-D-Zcom,
and I know their proceeds.
If you get one, they will helpdifferent charities and
organizations that work withpeople going through depression
and anxiety.
So kudos to you, Snapvans.
All right, so, oh my gosh, Okay, so you're a wealth of
(42:04):
knowledge.
I really enjoy talking to you,and so are you.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
And so are you, and so is everyone.
Everyone has it.
This is not special Everyonehas it.
We have just hidden our naturalknowledge.
We all have it.
We've just covered it up.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yes, I agree 100% with that.
So you know what listeners, Iwant you to take that challenge
from me and it's coming from me.
If you're watching the news oranything that has this negative
pull, and yes it does take itfrom it and see how you feel
(42:48):
about yourself.
Get to know yourself, loveyourself, stay in the now.
Okay, that's my advice fromlistening to you too.
So, but you know just, I thinkthe message I do get from you
Dallas is the visions, like ifwe had.
(43:10):
You know, mine is sea turtles.
Let's use me.
For example, I want to go finda place for sea turtles, so I'll
quickly go on Google.
Where can I go?
Where can I swim with them?
And I think I found South Padre.
Okay, nine hours away.
Well, I can do this, maybe withthe next paycheck.
Why not just go and get it overwith?
(43:32):
Let's go do it.
And now the day we don't knowhow much more time we have on
earth and if we're going to justsit there and waste it and just
go with this routine, we'reprogrammed.
I feel like the robot, therobots that are being made right
now, what they're going to takeover our jobs soon and what Are
(43:56):
we going to get paid to go havefun and relax and live our
happiest life?
I hope so.
I mean, I would love to be paidto travel the world.
Yeah, no, kidding it now andjust be yourself and get that
(44:19):
done, like there shouldn't be astopping.
You know, but just focusing onI call it the negative can hurt
what you have see in the eyes oftoday.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I would say two things come up right away.
My snap band would say wake upthings.
Come up right away.
My snap band would say wake up.
When you wake up, to what youare, there's no longer time.
(44:51):
There's no longer time.
There is no time, time doesn'texist.
I work with elderly people,often in the gym, working out,
working on their diet, helpingthem to stay healthier, and I
will hear so often well, mytime's up.
You know, I don't have muchtime left, all this kind of talk
and I think, wow, that's toobad, because I have all day I
(45:15):
love it, I love it and I'malways because I have all day I
love it.
I love it and I'm always goingto have all day.
Yeah, there is no more timewhen you wake up.
If I got this, what I feel nowfor the last hour of my life, I
am completely satisfied with mylife.
I didn't waste a moment.
Yes, I went 60 years carryingthat baggage, believing terrible
(45:37):
things, abusing myself andothers, and when I woke up, that
60 years doesn't exist, itdoesn't matter.
No time has gone by.
That feeling of the baby and thefeeling of the dying is the
exact same feeling.
(45:57):
It didn't age, it doesn't age,it doesn't change.
You can't get more.
You can't lose it.
It's always there.
There is no time when you'rethere.
It's timeless.
You are eternal.
That's what you are and it'sthe most beautiful.
That's what you are and it'sthe most beautiful, magical
(46:22):
thing to discover.
It's that, at 12 years old, Iwalked down out on the wharf to
the dock on a lake on abeautiful August evening.
I put my sleeping bag down andI lie down and look up at that
sky and for a moment I'm justthe sky.
It is awe, wonder, stunning,stunning beauty that I can't
(46:43):
even comprehend.
And then you start thinking andyou think oh, is that one
moving?
Is that a UFO?
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Oh the thoughts come.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
But for that moment, that initial moment, you were
that pure conscious awareness ofwhat you are.
I'm now 66 years old.
I walk down that dock, out onthat wharf, put my sleeping bag
down, lie down, look up intothat beautiful starry night.
(47:14):
The exact same thing happens.
Nothing has changed.
No time has gone by since I was12 years old.
That's just a physical body ofchange.
That's just a plant, an appletree, anything in change, but
not the conscious reality.
(47:34):
But not the conscious reality.
Nothing changes.
There is no time to worry about.
You have all the time in theworld because you've got all day
and that's your life.
This is it.
When I see the turtles, that'sgoing to be great, but I'm not
waiting to see the turtles.
(47:55):
That's not a time to see theturtles.
I'm here right now and when I'mthere, I'll be here right now.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
So there's no change, there's no distance between it,
there is no time, it's not oneday.
You are here, there is only oneday, this day.
You are here, there is only oneday, this day, and when every
day is suddenly beautiful andlovely, you don't have a worry,
a concern, a thought, a problem,as I do, then it doesn't matter
(48:27):
.
Nothing else matters.
Everything else is just made upin our minds, towing us around
to places that do nothing butgive negativity.
Relying on someone's news,relying on someone treating me
right these are all fantasies wemake up.
Why live in a fantasy?
(48:48):
We agreed at the beginning.
We just want to be happy.
What are you waiting for?
It's now this, it, it is.
Yeah, wake up, this is all youget and it's everything
everything amen on the hat youwon, you won.
You won the lottery of life.
(49:09):
You got it.
You got born into this, live it.
Open your arms and embraceyourself.
This is it.
You're not going to improveyourself.
You are already perfect.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
So Dallas define hope .
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Oh, I've never been a fan of hope, ever since cancer.
I've never been a fan of hopeever since cancer.
And the reason is I saw peoplewho swallowed the pill of cancer
, the pill of fear, the pill ofI am going to die, not I might
(49:58):
die, and they tried to.
There was this conversationthat would always be there about
you have to keep hope alive,and I saw people hope and I saw
people try to survive and Iinstantly said to myself I don't
need to hope, I'm not going tosurvive, because that means I'm
(50:21):
hanging on and waiting.
I'm hoping I'll get through itand survive.
And I realized right awaythat's not a good life raft.
I need to stand up and punchthe damn thing in the face and
say I'm not ready, I'm kickingyour ass, I am out of here.
I watched people walk in.
(50:42):
I watched them show up thefirst day of radiation and they
were beaten.
They had already lost and 99%of them died.
And I watched people walk inwith an anger and I'm getting
through this, I'm going to doanything it takes and most of
(51:03):
them live.
Yeah, this thing is incrediblypowerful, but but it gave me a
bad taste for hope and forsurviving.
I didn't survive cancer.
I didn't hope to survive.
I beat its ass.
That's what happened.
Yeah, and that's how we getthrough any tough time.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Oh, yes, we have a strength.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
We all have a strength inside of us that we
can't imagine and it comes outin the worst possible moment.
Most people it just happens.
It arrives.
They don't decide to be strong,it just shows up.
It's on their side.
But you can force the loss toshow up.
(51:47):
You can decide to fail and end.
You can decide to sit down andcry.
You can decide to let the worldbeat you up.
Those are easy.
That's lazy, it's simple to dothat, but we are so strong.
It's stunning how strong peopleare.
The weakest person in theplanet is incredibly strong.
(52:11):
They just don't find it.
Sometimes they don't dig for it.
They don't look for it becausethey're looking out there.
They think out there is goingto give them what they want and
when it doesn't, they can becrushed because they never found
what they are.
They didn't open their eyes andwake up to that moment lying on
the wharf looking at the sun ofthe stars, and they didn't
(52:32):
connect that that was you.
They just let it blow by anddidn't recognize it because they
weren't awake.
So wake up, catch these momentsand tell yourself those are the
moments.
That's the real me in thebackground, saying come here, be
(52:52):
with me.
This is the best place in theworld.
You don't have to fear anything.
You've got it.
You're the winner.
This is the best place in theworld.
You don't have to fear anything.
You've got it.
You're the winner.
You're the best, you're themost important.
Live in it.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yes, agreed, agreed.
I know, in the book I'm writing, it's about taking an
initiative and being strong, andit's about you being strong
because nobody, nobody else, wasgoing to do it and I had to
learn that for me no one can?
Yeah, definitely now, dallas, Isee the four books and I want
(53:28):
to learn about these books fromyou, okay well they are the
journey back.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Okay, you know, the first book right here is Combat
Cancer, and I wrote that as Istarted to come out of the year
of collapse, because cancermeant I had to rebuild my body.
I was physically broken downand so I had to learn I had to
see cancer as this fight, not assomething that happened to me.
(54:00):
I recognized I gave myselfcancer and that's a huge turning
point in responsibility.
I know it's not genetic, it'sepigenetic.
My genes, all our genes, aredisposed to have cancer as a
possibility.
But what triggers it isepigenetics, is how I live my
(54:24):
lifestyle.
I spent 50 years crying andworrying and in pain and
struggling and regret and shameand anxiety.
That alone can cause it.
Shame and anxiety, that alonecan cause it.
Then I added alcohol and crappyfood and bad relationships and
anger and fighting.
That alone could cause it.
So when I realized I gavemyself cancer, what an
(54:49):
empowerment.
If I gave it to me, I don'thave to keep it.
If I'm the one who gave it tome, I can fight it.
If it just happened, if God didthis to me, if my genes did
this to me, then I'm notresponsible.
So I can lie down and cry, andthis is the difference.
(55:10):
So for me, radicalresponsibility is the building
block of it all.
And that's what that was.
And then I had to take theactual steps.
So the second book is calledthe Step System, because I
realized I couldn't bite a greatbig chunk of get my life back.
(55:31):
I didn't want my life back.
I did not want the life I had.
That would be another disaster.
So I knew somewhere I'd takesmall steps in a new direction.
One little step.
You wake up in the morning.
Don't sit down on that couchand throw on YouTube and drink
your coffee.
Go for a 30 minute walk, justdo that.
(55:54):
And that was all I did.
One step Go for a 30 minutewalk, just do that.
And that was all I did.
One one step Go for a 30 minutewalk.
Then I added I have a stickerright here on my TV.
You can just see it right there, gotcha.
What does it say?
It says get off your ass.
I like that.
The TV knows I'm sitting therestaring at it and I shouldn't be
(56:16):
.
I like that.
The TV knows I'm sitting therestaring at it and I shouldn't be
.
So then I put a sticker on myfridge.
A small step.
The sticker says what's goinginto your mouth.
To wake me up when I get to thefridge, Instead of sleepwalking
and grabbing some junk andthrowing it in my mouth, it made
me go oh yeah, I should eatsomething a little bit better.
(56:37):
And so every day startedfilling up with little stickers
I'd put around the house.
To do what?
To keep me awake, to keep mefocused on now, my life.
The only way to really makelife better is to be here, not
in the goal in the future, notin the fear of the past.
To be here and not in the goalin the future, not in the fear
of the past.
To be here and take thoselittle bites, yeah.
(57:01):
So this led me automatically tothe third book, which is called
Live Long with a Fit Five Life.
I came up with the five basicsof fitness, and they are
physical fitness, food fitness,mental fitness, social fitness
(57:22):
and sleep fitness.
Let me start with sleep.
Sleep is a huge issue today.
Many, many people don't sleepwell.
I didn't sleep well for 25years.
As soon as I got physicalfitness, food fitness, mental
fitness and social fitnessfigured out, sleep was fixed.
I sleep like a baby every night.
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I didn't sleep for 25 years andI tried the pillows and the
mattress and all thesetechniques and you name it.
You know evening routines andall sorts of things.
It was when I got my head right.
All that baggage wasn't beingtaken to bed.
My mind didn't race, it justsaid everything's great and boom
(58:06):
, sleep like a baby.
So that book led me into workingin gyms.
People would see me, they sawthe change.
They'd come up to me Prettysoon.
You're coaching, you're helpingother people, and this
roadblock kept coming up withalmost every single person, some
of them in great shape, eatingreally well, have great friends.
(58:29):
But this one thing keptcropping up in the background
their emotional baggage fromtheir story.
They were doing everything theycould, but they weren't dealing
with the story.
So when I go to the gym andwork out, I don't work out to
(58:49):
look good, to hope someone willsay wow, you look great for that
age.
I'm impressed.
That's the danger of the story.
I go to the gym because itmakes me feel good, because I
enjoy it, it's for my pleasure.
Right then, it's almostmeditation to me.
(59:10):
I am completely focused and inthe moment.
And that's the difference.
I'm not in a story, I'm in mylife, doing it.
So this led me to this problem.
Why has everybody got thisproblem?
What's in the way they've gotall these pieces?
They seem to be right andthey're still not happy.
(59:30):
And that's when it began totrigger in me that the happiness
is this thing and it's beingcovered by this story, we
believe.
And so then I wrote the gift isthe present, as in the present
moment.
Yes, the move for me was if mylife collapsed, I need to
(59:53):
collapse my life, and what thatmeans is life isn't a great big
event.
It isn't a great big story If Ihave 24 hours in a day and I
sleep for eight.
16 hours is my life.
And so if I just collapse mylife to one day and say, in this
(01:00:14):
one day, can I eat a littlebetter, collapse my life to one
day and say, in this one day,can I eat a little better?
Yeah, I could probably do thatfor one day.
Could I go for a walk, do someexercise?
Yeah, I could probably do thatin a day.
Could I go to my work andreally focus on it and do the
best I can?
Yeah, I can probably do that ina day.
Could I phone a friend or aloved one and tell them I love
(01:00:35):
them.
Yeah, I could probably do thatin a day.
The day is simple and it'severything.
Just do it for one day, likeAlcoholics Anonymous would tell
me.
Just do it for one day.
Just don't drink one day.
One day at a time is your lifeyes, agreed I quit alcohol like
(01:00:58):
that, after 10 years of tryingand struggle and pain and
violence and anger.
I quit like that, not because Itried to quit, because I put
down the baggage that I wasdrinking for.
I was drinking because of thepain.
When the pain disappeared, Ihad no reason to drink.
(01:01:21):
So it ended no withdrawal, no,nothing.
Because it wasn't real, it wasa medication.
It was that externalizingeverything in our life that we
think is so important.
I need you, I need yourappreciation, I need you to be
with me.
This is the mistake.
(01:01:42):
You have it, you have it all.
You get to share it with love,and then I just love being with
you.
Not I need to be with you.
Exactly me.
(01:02:12):
Different.
It does not feed a purpose,because they have everything
they need.
You have everything you need.
That's the understanding thatmakes us one the same.
We are each other.
I am the baby.
I am my mother's face whenshe's dying.
We are everything.
(01:02:34):
We have it all.
We are everything.
We have it all we do.
We do.
The next, the next book, whichis almost there, is going, is
going deeper, is going deeperinto this and is purely about
the story, mind andtransitioning, understanding it
and working our way out of it tojust be happy.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yeah, I'm glad you have another one coming out and
I want to see more and more.
I don't decide to.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
You're going to do it .
They're not a goal or anything.
I just open my mouth or pick upa pen and it just comes out
Good, good.
I can't even tell you whereit's coming from.
I couldn't tell you.
I wasn't even tell you whereit's coming from.
I couldn't tell you I wasn't aspeaker.
And then I got back on my feetand found this door and this
light poured in and I opened mymouth and this is what comes out
(01:03:25):
.
It's not planned.
I don't go, this is what I'mgoing to do, it just happens,
it's just here.
Yeah, you have the same thing.
You couldn't do a podcast ifyou didn't have it all already.
Your best podcasts are whenthey just happen.
(01:03:47):
Right, you don't try and makethem happen, they just develop,
they just go, they just, theyjust spill out all over the
screen, and that's the beauty.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
And it is Like none of this is pre-scripted or
anything.
I interview with my heart andsoul, so you never know what's
going to come out of my mouth,but I do think our listeners
would want to know.
Well, first of all, on mywebsite at
(01:04:20):
keephopealivepodcastcom, thereis a storefront so you will be
able to get his books afterwatching his episode and
everything.
But let's hear from you, likeif somebody wanted to connect
with you what are your socialsand how do you go about that?
Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
if somebody wanted to connect with you what are your
socials and how do you go aboutthat?
Well, you know, nadine, in thisday and age, if they have your
name, there's no place to hide.
So I just tell them Dallas,call us at gmailcom.
It's an email, that's all youneed.
Connect, connect, let's talk.
Anyone can talk.
Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I mean, there's nothing to fear here.
That's awesome.
Yeah, so definitely make itsimple.
Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
It's all simple.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Make it simple just like picking up the telephone
back in the day.
Do you remember all that beforeall this internet stuff, my
goodness being attached to thewall, and is my mom listening?
Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
she's gonna know.
So often, so often I have thisthought that if we've never had
that telephone back then and weonly had the internet world, and
then today someone inventedthis telephone on the wall.
You just pick it up, dial sevennumbers and there's your mom,
(01:05:35):
we would go, wow, wow, whattechnology.
This is way better than a cellphone.
I get you right here, right now, live in person.
It's funny how that evolvedinto a strange social system.
That's much, messier.
Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Oh, I know, I know A lot of changes and everything we
think it's advanced.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
I know, I know a lot of changes and everything, so we
think it's advanced.
Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
I know, I know, I mean, I think it's funny.
I was talking with a person Iinterviewed a couple days ago
and she was a librarian and Isaid, well, do you still have
the card catalog?
And she's like no, everything'sdigital now and they just
scanned the barcode and I waslike, oh, and she goes.
But some of the kids will openup the book and see that
(01:06:22):
placeholder and be like, whoa,this is an antique book.
Yeah, I'm not feeling old.
Oh, that's funny.
But I'm glad records came backout.
I'm just kind of done with.
You know what is it?
The cds and stuff andeverything.
And you know I I take pride oftrying to learn what's new, but
(01:06:46):
sometimes I need my little son,who's 12, to help me and I'm
like I remember I really think.
Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
One of the conflicts here is we are analog beings and
we're trying to live in adigital world, and there's a
conflict in our brains.
Because we're analog, we needto touch each other, smell each
other, taste each other, be apart of each other, and that's
analog.
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Yep, gotcha, yep, definitely Well.
Dallas, I want to say thank youso much for coming on, keep
Hope Alive today, and thank youfor having me Telling us about
your journey, the books thatyou've written and the new ones
that are possibly coming out,and yours.
Well, I'm not going to say I'mjust happy.
(01:07:34):
I'm just happy with myself atthis time because, overdoing
interviews of different authorsand everything I knew, I was a
better talker and interviewerand podcaster.
But I also knew that whathappened to me in my life should
be shared and I just had, therewas a fear.
(01:07:57):
I'll tell you, there's still alittle fear.
What happened to me was not easyfor anybody to read or hear.
It's very, I don't know, it'slife-changing.
So but when I sit down in themorning and start writing, I sit
(01:08:19):
down in the morning and startwriting.
It's taken that and putting itout there into the world and how
it was seen.
And you know, I think, justwhen it does come out, I'm
hoping and well, I got to learnabout author life because I know
I'm not the best of writers I'mgoing to have to send it up and
have somebody read it orsomething.
Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
It's art.
It's art.
You're doing your art.
You have no choice.
Don't try and evaluate yourself.
Judge yourself, compareyourself.
You are great the way you are.
Just go with who you are.
Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Just put it on by just sticky notes and send to
the world.
Go for it.
Yep, definitely, I sure will.
But you know, one day theremight be, hopefully, a podcast.
Yeah, I just that's going to besomething I got to build into
because it feels like I'mopening a whole new door into
(01:09:14):
this whole new world with thisbook and everything.
I'm excited for the journey.
Take the baby steps.
Take the baby steps.
Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Keep going.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
I will, I will, I definitely will.
So thank you so much.
And like I was about to say, Iwant to bring you back next year
.
I want to see how time hasprogressed with you and what's
new out there and everything andother than that, guys, wherever
you guys find your podcast,you'll find Keep Hope Alive also
(01:09:47):
the website atwwwkeephopelivepodcastcom.
If you would like to be a guest, let us know.
And if you do have questionsfor Dallas on the website there
is a little side button.
It says leave message.
Anything that you leave I willsend over to Dallas and we'll
(01:10:08):
get that answered right away.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Thank you, Nadine, I appreciate you, you're welcome,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Thank you Until our next show.
Guys, love and light, bye-bye.
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