February 18, 2025 • 62 mins
What happens when the high-stakes environment of social work meets a personal health crisis? Jacqueline Carson joins us to share her transformative journey from child protection social work to becoming a clinical hypnotherapist and meditation teacher. Diagnosed with breast cancer in 2014, Jacqueline found herself at a crossroads, leading to profound lifestyle changes and a newfound passion for hypnotherapy. Discover how she overcame smoking and drinking, and learn about the critical role hypnotherapy played in her healing journey, offering her a fresh perspective on managing stress and health.
We also venture into the mysterious world of spiritual awakenings and extraordinary out-of-body experiences. With a personal connection to epilepsy, Jacqueline reveals how childhood experiences and seizures opened doors to profound questions about consciousness and existence. This episode uncovers personal stories of self-discovery, where understanding from medical professionals often falls short. Through these experiences, Jacqueline and her friends explore the power of personal growth and creativity when societal expectations no longer bind them.
The power of hypnotherapy extends beyond personal healing, influencing habits and addictions, particularly in empowering women. Amidst the backdrop of the COVID-19 pandemic, Jacqueline's hypnotherapy practice has adapted, offering online sessions and group workshops. We explore The Rewired Woman program, aimed at helping women realign their minds and bodies through holistic practices like yoga and meditation. Get inspired by success stories and upcoming retreats that focus on chakra work and other healing modalities, inviting listeners to embrace mindful choices for a balanced, fulfilling life.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to Keep Hope Alive podcast.
We have a great show for youtoday.
I got Miss Jacqueline Carsonhere with us.
Thank you for coming on to theshow.
She's a hypnotherapist,mediation teacher.
She does yoga I guess classesis that and also she is the
(00:25):
owner of the Rewired Woman andwe are going to dive into
everything that she does becauseshe is a multi-talented woman.
So, but really quick, I'm goingto ask a quick question.
So say, we're the best offriends and we just got invited
to go to a wedding and we'rewalking into the ceremony part
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and off to the right we seesomething that we would have to
sign, I guess, to let the coupleknow that we were there.
What is it that they're signing?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Definitely a non-disclosure agreement, I
think.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, that's a good answer any other.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
First thing that came into my head just like the lips
are sealed, you don't sayanything, just yeah, whatever
goes on, goes on.
Nobody knows anything.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, definitely.
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(02:09):
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All right, so here we go, missJacqueline.
So who's Miss Jacqueline Carson?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Hello and thank you for having me on.
It's really lovely to be here,hi oh thank you.
(03:32):
So I'm gonna ask who are you?
Okay, right, oh, wow, um, well,as you said, um, I'm a clinical
hypnotherapist, a meditationteacher, um, and I'm a kundalini
yoga student.
I'll explain a little bit moreabout that, but I haven't always
been, and my background is insocial work, and I trained and
qualified in child protectionsocial work quite a few years
(03:55):
ago now, but what I found was,over the years, it's certainly's
certainly really very, verystressful, um, job, um, and I
found that I was really, Isuppose, really quite struggling
to cope with, you know, thestress of the job, um, the very,
(04:18):
very long hours working lateinto the night and through the
evenings and things, and, and,um, and I was a single parent as
well, so trying to raise mykids, um, and everything that
goes, you know, along with that.
And then, um, I was diagnosedwith breast cancer in 2014, on
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the 1st of April I know itsounds like an April Fool's joke
, but it wasn't you know whatthey say about dates and
everything, so yeah, and um, andit was.
It was super stressful because Iuh, there'd been quite a few
cancers in my family and I'dlost a few family members and,
(05:01):
um, some cousins, even um,around about the same age as me,
from cancer, and so I wasreally, really scared what I was
doing.
At that time, though, becauseof the stress of the job that I
had, I was actually drinkingquite a lot.
I was smoking quite heavy.
(05:22):
I wasn't really.
I thought I was smoking quiteheavy.
I wasn't really.
I thought I was healthy, youknow, and I thought that I ate
quite well and I exercised, Irode horses, you know, I had
dogs, I walked a lot, I lived inthe country, did all of the
things, but and I couldn'tunderstand, you know why I was
(05:43):
diagnosed with cancer and forsome reason it didn't even enter
my head.
Well, you've been drinking foryears, you've been smoking for
years, you know, maybe youhaven't been eating properly,
but I decided that I had toreally kind of quit, I had to
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change my life, but I had tolook at the stress.
I couldn't keep on going theway that I was going, because a
lot of the drinking and smokinganyway was self-medicating.
It was trying to relieve someof the stress and the pressure.
So I started with the job andthat's what led me to retrain to
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be a clinical hypnotherapist.
I had some hypnotherapy as partof my treatment to help me kind
of process what was going onwith the cancer and everything.
And it was just it, it was justamazing it was.
It really helped me kind of putthings into perspective and
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work out a plan really of what Ineeded to do.
Um, I knew for sure that Iwanted to live and I knew that
if I continued on the, thetrajectory that I was on, that,
you know, I wasn't going to.
You know, even if this cancerwas, um, healed, you know, even
(07:09):
even if through treatment it washealed, if I kept drinking and
smoking and being stressed todeath, it it was just going to
come back somewhere else maybe.
Um, so yeah, so I I thought,right, let's change the job.
Um, so I did that, became ahypnotherapist and then I used
(07:31):
hypnosis to stop smoking.
Um, a couple of years later,used hypnosis to stop drinking.
Then I found out I was actuallyaddicted to sugar because
there's so much sugar in alcohol.
So when I stopped drinking itwas like I can't get enough
cakes and things.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I was like my appetite has picked up but I
quit drinking as much wine andhaving a shot, you know um, but
I noticed my appetite is likewhere's the sweets?
So yeah, thank.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
God for Valentine's Day.
Well, I mean, I don't eat anynow, or very rarely, and usually
, if I have any chocolate oranything, I'll have like very,
very, very dark.
I don't know if you've evertried 100% chocolate before it.
It doesn't taste that nice, um,but I'll have something like
(08:33):
that if I, if I fancy um any anychocolate, because I also
became vegan too.
Um, when I, when I started tolook into breast cancer and
cancer in general and diet andall of that, I mean you can go a
bit down a rabbit hole, but Ifound that I was getting lots of
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tummy upsets.
You know, I was and it's weirdbecause I can't remember having
these when I was drinking.
It all seemed to happen after Iwas drinking these dietary
things and I used to buy I don'tknow if you can get them where
you are, but we have theselittle kind of they're like
little yogurt drinks, like whatdo you call them?
(09:16):
Like prebiotics, probioticthings.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh, okay, I was thinking the animals, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So I used to drink those, thinking they were really
good for me.
But every time I had one mystomach was just bloating and
growling.
So I had an intolerance testand it found I was sensitive to
gluten and also dairy, and Iused to eat loads of cheese, um,
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so I just thought you know what?
I'm just gonna go the whole hog.
So I just cut all animalproducts out, all sugar out, so
I don't smoke, I don't drink, Idon't eat sugar or processed
foods and I don't eat any meator dairy, any animal products
now.
But I feel amazing.
Um, that's good, yeah, and it's.
(10:10):
And it's almost 11 years nowsince I was diagnosed with
breast cancer and so since thenI have, um, I work now with
women mainly.
I do do do work with men aswell, but I market to women
because I kind of I want to beable to help women who were in
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my situation.
So I was a professional person,I was educated, but I was very
highly stressed and burnt out,which was leading to these
addictions and and almost kindof like a self-harm in a way,
really.
Um, and I used to think I wouldnever stop drinking.
(10:56):
I used to think it wasimpossible to stop smoking, um,
and so when I did it it was justlike wow, I can't believe how
easy it was.
With hypnosis, you know, it wasjust like I was blown away.
So now I help.
You know my, my.
I see my purpose as being ableto help women to um, to be able
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to kind of overcome similarissues.
You know, even if that issomething like anxiety or lack
of confidence or like a what'sthe word, you know, like
imposter syndrome or something,any of those things can lead us
down a path where we are kind ofnot particularly in control of
(11:46):
our, of ourselves and um and our.
You know our direction and itcan, um, cause us to behave in
ways that we may not want to, orhabits and addictions and
things.
So, um, so that's what you know.
That's kind of where I'm at,but I've added into um.
I also trained as a meditationteacher because it's all about
the.
You know that's kind of whereI'm at, but I've added into I
also trained as a meditationteacher because it's all about
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the, you know the changing andrewiring the subconscious mind.
And then I have now studyingyoga as well.
So bringing everything together, working with the mind and the
body for the whole self, whichis amazing.
It's yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, yeah, I've never tried yoga.
I've seen it, you know, butI've never tried it.
I have tried meditation andhypnotherapy.
I did by listening to one of mylast speakers he does it like
on a video and we'll walk youthrough it and I was like, but I
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remember I did fall asleep andI remember at the end of the
video, for some reason, therewas this loud noise and I woke
up.
I was like I don't know thatthat's normal, like if you're
watching a video of it, thatthey want you to wake up.
But I just thought I was goingto drift away and go to sleep
(13:15):
okay.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So the the aim is not to go to sleep, the aim is to
kind of get you in that, um,very relaxed state, but you're
still just I'm not saying Ihaven't had clients fall asleep,
because I have, which in a wayis a compliment, because they're
so relaxed, but that's, you'renot really wanting to get
somebody asleep, you're wantingthem to be deeply relaxed and
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you can still hear everything.
But it shouldn't, kind ofreally it shouldn't disturb you.
You know to to.
Your focus should be on on thehypnotherapist voice.
But I, I do work online too andum, okay, I've worked with
people in America and um inItaly and New Zealand and um,
(14:02):
spain and places like that, andit, it, it works very, very well
.
But you would I don't knowabout the person that you worked
with, but I would, yeah, getyou to kind of just close your
eyes and and relax while you're,you know, while you're
listening, but then Ipurposefully bring people back
out of that.
(14:23):
So maybe there was justsomething that fell off.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It could have been just a video, who knows Like
that part of the video and maybethat was just a thing to say
okay, your time is up.
This was a free video orsomething, so I'm not 100% sure,
but I'm intrigued to learn moreabout this because I know, even
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with meditation, I was in agroup and we did a group
meditation and it was so amazing.
I could not believe the energyin that room and it was like I
could feel myself actually leavemy body and I was floating up,
looking down.
I was in space, I guess,because it was beautiful, but I
could feel myself actually leavemy body and I was floating up,
looking down.
I was in space, I guess,because it was beautiful, but I
could see America and we werepraying for people, and I just
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prayed for nurses and teachers,but it looked like a gridlock of
lights all over and I was likeI didn't want to leave that
moment one bit.
I felt so heavenly, I felt likemy word was getting out more by
doing this meditation.
So, yeah, but that was many,many, many years ago and I did
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go back to the same place andthey're not there anymore and I
was like, oh man, I reallywanted to go and do that again
and stuff more.
And I was like, oh man, Ireally wanted to go and do that
again and stuff.
And now they opened a store inAllen called the Mindful Mermaid
and I want to look into that alittle bit more too, because
that meditation, oh, it's sorelaxing to the soul.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, it sounds like you had an amazing experience
because there's lots ofdifferent types of meditation,
and I think that that's whatdrew me to kundalini yoga more
than anything, because it it'snot like other genres of yoga
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and it it, um, it works.
It it it of kind of um, likechanting and mantra, and like,
exactly like you've just said,when you're in a group and
you're all kind of chantingtogether, the energy is just
amazing.
You feel fantastic and yeah,and people have all different
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kinds of experiences and and itit's yeah, it can be just
blissful, it's just a beautifulplace to be, isn't it?
It's, it's gorgeous it reallyis.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
There's nothing like it.
Mean, I grew up with epilepsy.
I've had out-of-bodyexperiences.
One of them was like sodifferent I'm just going to have
to ask God when I see them.
But I was walking up whitestairs into the sky.
I got to the door and I heardwe're just not ready for you,
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and I felt backwards.
But I felt myself land into mybody.
I think I was nine years oldand I sat up and the doctor's
like you just had a seizure, areyou okay?
I go yeah, I'm ready to go home.
I was with God.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Wow, I was like I didn't know what to say Young
children now, up until the ageof seven, I mean, we know that
they haven't developed theprefrontal cortex yet in the
brain, so they don't have theability to use logic and they
tend to live in theirsubconscious mind.
(18:02):
They're in the present, their,they're in the present, they're
completely in the present.
Um, however, also, you knowchildren, very, very young
children.
They're very close to, they'revery close to source, so that
you know, because they're,they're newly, they're newborn,
aren't they?
So they, so they have this um,you know this kind of this sense
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, I suppose, of of their souland where we came from, um, and
I just think it's so sad that welose this as we get older yeah
and it sounds like that was likeyour experience, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well, I was very, at a young age, intuitive let's put
it that way and then it waskind of like growing up, like I
think it was in my 20s, goinginto 30s.
I learned more about myself andI'll just say I'm awake.
So I have been through thatjourney and but it brought me
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closer to that part at that timeand, yes, I'm writing about it.
So now I feel like the relivingof it and what I truly learned
and what I really took away fromthat and how can I use that to
bring it, you know, onto the newversion of me, who is 47 and
(19:32):
rising up to probably be 80 orsomething, who knows?
But yeah, it's like a newchapter, or maybe I'm having a
midlife crisis, who knows, maybeI'm having a midlife crisis,
who knows?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I think we get to a certain point in life where we,
you know, much like with youngchildren, I think we kind of we
lose touch with that for a while, and then I think we get to a
certain age where we are almostkind of searching for that again
(20:05):
.
Like you say, that it's kind oflike the, the home we're trying
to find, our home, um, and, andso I and again, I think you
would love kundalini yoga, youwould love it, um, and I think
that that's what that does forme, it, it, it, you know it kind
of um, it, it's it, it kind ofhelps you and and steers you to
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understand a little bit moreabout that kind of awakening, if
you like, or, or your, you knowyour purpose and your direction
and and, um, and it's, it's,it's just, I think he would
absolutely love it.
But when you said, you know, Ihad a crazy experience once when
I was having my daughter andshe's 30 now and I remember my
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husband at the time, you know, Iremember sitting up in bed
thinking and I said to him Ijust died, I just died, I've
come back to life, I've justdied, and he was like, don't be
crazy, you know, it's just thegas and air.
But I can remember, like you'vejust said, I I was kind of.
I came, I went right up intothe corner of the room and it
(21:24):
was all white and I was lookingdown and I could see myself
giving birth to my daughter.
I remember it was just before,actually, she was delivered and
I actually found it a bitfrightening, actually, a bit a
(21:45):
bit kind of scary, um, but Iwill never forget it, it, you
know it.
It was just I was in twodifferent places, I was looking
down on me, so whether or not Idid die and I was, I don't know.
Um, I didn't get any message,but but it, it, it was surreal.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It was.
Yeah, yeah, I even one of myseizures I had was when I worked
at Macy's and um, we get like athing called Aurora it lets us
know 10 to 15 minutes before itcould happen, and I guess I just
decided to get to the bathroom,which was probably a big
(22:27):
mistake, but then again, maybeit wasn't, because I didn't want
anybody to see me have this.
However, I guess in the stall Iwent down and maybe hit my head
against the toilet, maybe hitmy head against the toilet.
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I then was standing outside ofmy body and I saw myself up
against the panel with oursecurity guard Nadine, don't die
on us, come back.
And I'm like I am right here.
I am just like right here, likehello, hello, I'm looking at
you, I'm not dead.
And I was like why am I herefeeling the outside talking?
She can't hear me, why does shekeep thinking I'm dead?
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And I remember I went back intomy body and then I came back out
.
She got me out of the bathroombut like I was a bridal
consultant, I have fullknowledge of everything.
My favorite bed was hotelcollection, but they put me on
Martha Stewart for some reason.
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I laugh about this now becausewhen I went back out of my body
I was like on a bed, peoplestanding around the ambulance.
I was like, what is going on?
Where am I going?
Where's my body going?
Should I go with it?
Like, why is she having me on,martha Stewart?
This is crazy.
And then I got into.
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I felt myself go back in.
I know I was at the hospital.
My aunt came to visit me andshe's so sweet, she's like.
I brought some food and it wasnoodles and beef tips.
I ate it.
But it put me back in a seizureand I was like but I didn't
jump out of my body that time.
So there has been many caseslike now, not only the first
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time it happens, and I had toask my neurologist, like why is
this really happening to me?
Like, can I have thatavailability to just jump out
and not feel the seizure?
It's unexplained, let's justleave it at that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So yeah, I think we don't have the capacity
necessarily to understand it andand I think, um, I think
sometimes, with you know, thethe medical sciences, I think I
think things are changing, but Ithink, on the whole, mostly, um
, they're not really willing toentertain that side of things
(24:58):
and and um, because they can'texplain it.
Yeah, and you know, but we areenergy, aren't we, at the end of
the day?
Yes, I just think it's sofascinating, you know, and
whether it's linked to you know,your epilepsy, you know, or
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what I don't know.
You know, maybe it's morelikely to happen when.
When that happens, I don't know, it's unexplained, but it's,
it's really interesting.
Yeah, have you ever been scaredwhen it's happened?
Then?
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Have I ever been what, af?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
no, no, I had peace.
It's like, well, the first Idid.
I was so young the first time,but because of the first time I
had no fear.
And then I remember, um, um,what was it?
I was scared when that was thisthe last time, Maybe four years
(26:07):
ago.
Those stupid edibles I havechronic pain.
So I was directed what to eatof this Hershey bar thing and I
was told to eat half, like half,the bar when it should have
been a tiny little square.
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That sent me into seizure and Ireally thought I was dead.
I couldn't even feel my body,my left side of my body, and I
still have an effect calledneuralgia parathosichia now from
my leg, and I do feel that.
You know, coming back, I wasfeeling paralyzed and I was
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telling it was not white thistime when I went out, which is
really weird.
But I remember saying I named mykids full names, I'm not ready
to go.
And then I was like I named mykids full names, I'm not ready
to go.
And then I was like I hated thefeeling of the seizure.
It would not.
It felt like five to six hours,but I remember saying I can't
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feel any of my body.
If this is going to be my newlife.
I don't want to be here.
Just take me, please take me,and you know so you're battling.
Take me, please take me, andyou know so you're you're
battling.
Do you really want to be hereand have maybe all this pain and
still be with the kids, or youknow what is it that you want?
And because it wasn't a whitelight, that kind of like, I felt
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like I was kind of stuck.
Does that make sense?
I was in between, not knowingwhere I was going, but I had
major decisions to make.
So I don't know it wasdifferent, but that was a
seizure that I remember, sittingup and telling the guy I was
dating I died.
He's like you'll be okay.
(27:53):
He did the same thing to me.
I was like no, I really died.
These men, you know they're allthe same, aren't they?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
oh yes, I'm not go back to sleep.
Yeah, um, you know, I'm justnot sure that they are as
intuitive, um, as a swimmer attimes.
I'm not saying they're all likethat, but I think that, yeah,
I'm not sure that they arereally.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Now sometimes, you know, I think, especially now
that I'm dating, I'm alwayswondering are the guys really
listening to the woman too?
You know, because we want to beheard, we want to share stuff.
You know we want to be heard,we want to share stuff, you know
.
It's just, you know.
I think, you know, with theguys they're working, they're
always tired, Lots of thingsgoing on, but it's just like a
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breathing time.
Hopefully they can refocus andsee what they need to focus on.
If that makes sense to us women.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, I've been single for a while now, um, and
I like it because, um, I find Ican be a lot more creative.
Um, maybe it's, I don't know,maybe it is about control or
something, but I, um, I justfeel that I can.
I can do more, you know, and,and I have done more.
I've done so much more.
I've traveled more, um, youknow, I've done more in my work
(29:25):
and my business and everything,um, I've achieved so much more,
I think, while I've been on myown.
Don't know whether that's justbecause I've been a lot more,
you know, focused, I haven't gotto consider anybody else, um,
or whether it's because, yeah,it's like a sense of freedom.
I don't have to, I don't haveto check anything by anyone.
You know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, I can do what I want, which is just brilliant
and amazing that is, yeah, I'velearned, like the thing is, I've
been single and I was like, canI stay single and be very happy
?
And I think the answer comesdown to no.
(30:06):
And then I'm starting toanalyze why is that?
And then I started building mybucket list.
Well, I want to travel more,but why do I think I need a guy
to travel with?
You know, I could do this on myown, or maybe just have a
friend, a new girlfriend, andyou know, hey, let's take a road
(30:28):
trip.
You know, just so I have thatcompany.
But I know, as I start to date,I'm setting up boundaries and
learning about myself.
Still, what is it that I need?
I think right now I do feel alittle insecure because of last
year, what I've been through,trying to date and I've been it
(30:53):
hasn't been pleasant, I'll justsay it.
It hasn't been pleasant at all,but I learned from it, I'm
growing from it.
Am I trying again?
Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I'm holding on to hope so much.
So we just got to see.
I think, you know we havelessons to learn in this life.
I don don't think.
Well, none of my relationshipsI've been married twice none of
my relationships, um, were thatsuccessful, despite being with
one person twice, um, ending therelationship, you know, and
(31:33):
then come going back again andit's still not working.
And, um, and I thought thatperson was my soul mate at the
time, um, maybe he still is, Idon't know.
Maybe we had lessons, you know,to learn from each other, but
it, um, I think I found that Iwasn't.
(31:56):
I might have learned a lot oflessons through those
relationships, but I wasn't.
I wasn't really developing asmy self.
You know, like you just said, Ifelt that I couldn't grow in
myself because thoserelationships were controlling,
um, and so I didn't feel that Icould even explore who I was and
(32:19):
what I really wanted, you know,out of my life.
And being single, I think, hasallowed me to do that and to
explore those things.
But I travel on my own, I goaway on my own and I've done
some retreats and things whichare amazing.
Because you're traveling, youyou're meeting new people as
(32:43):
well, um, yeah, which is nice.
Um, and yeah, the world.
I think our brain naturallytries to keep us safe and then
we, oh yeah, we hide behind that.
You know, we, we kind of feelwe need that comfort zone, don't
we?
(33:03):
Um?
But then actually, when youstep outside of that and you go
do something, it it's not asscary and even if it is a bit
scary when you've done it it'san amazing sense of achievement.
You know, feeling proud youhave, and, um, I still sometimes
some women might sometimes sayto me I, I don't know how you
(33:25):
can, I don't know how you can dothat.
You know I wouldn't have theconfidence to.
You know, go away on on my own.
But, um, yeah, I think it'sgreat.
And again, you don't have to,you don't have to please anybody
, you can answer.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You know you can do what you want.
I don't have a curfew, no,that's a.
You know I keep thinking maybeI have to do the cruise on my
bucket list by myself.
And you know I was like I wantto do one with my children, but
I also want to do one by myself,you know, and see if I like it.
(34:02):
And you know I always thought Iwanted to work on a cruise line
as an event planner too.
So it's like, hey, I just havea few more years until my son
gets old.
Maybe I can go do that.
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Wow, I have some friends cause I do, um, I dance,
I do ballroom and LatinAmerican dancing.
I'm not an expert, I do it forfun.
And my dance teachers, um, they, um, were they, they were, you
know, professional dancers umgoing back years and they did
(34:37):
some work on cruise ships aswell after they stopped doing
professional dancing.
And their son is a dancer andhe is currently on a cruise ship
.
Now that is what he does andhas traveled the world just
doing what he loves dancing.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I wish.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I could be on a cruise line just podcasting yeah
, I wish I could be on a cruiseline just podcasting.
Yeah, that would be so fun.
You know there is a because Ithought of that and there is.
There is quite a famoushypnotherapist who, um, um, who
does go on cruise shipssometimes, because I thought
that's a good idea.
I could do that.
(35:17):
That would be amazing.
You know, you could kill twobirds with one stone and yeah,
and see the world and have.
You know, have fun.
Who knows?
yeah you see, and then you maybecould podcast.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Can you imagine you could interview loads of people
on a cruise, loads of people, ohyeah, and then you get off of
the ship for a little bit, maybeinterview locals.
You know, there I'm aphotographer too.
Get some pictures, do the blog.
The whole nine yards yeah, thatwould be so fun.
I can see it now.
(35:51):
Oh, wow, the cruise podcast byKeep Hope Alive, keep Travel
Alive.
So that would be fun.
Hey, any cruise ships want topick me up.
(36:12):
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I love it Absolutely.
I'm enjoying this conversationwe're having.
(38:22):
I love it Absolutely Becauseyou yeah, I mean, you amaze me,
that's what it is and you knoware you also helping people who
try to break habits, like youmentioned drinking and smoking?
Is that what you set up sometherapy sessions to do?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, so when I first started I set up kind of like a
.
I rented a room, so local towhere I live and seeing people
in person.
Obviously, when we had COVID,that changed everything for
everybody, didn't it?
And so the only way to seeclients was to work with with
them on zoom, and I had no ideaif it would work, but it but it
(39:04):
did.
So my business now has kind ofdeveloped into I can still see
local people one-to-one if theywant to, but a lot of the work
is kind of on online.
So and it one-to-one like this,like you know, like we're
chatting now but I also do someum groups.
(39:26):
I do sometimes do some workshopsor um, I've done um programs.
So, for example, um, I did onefor alcohol, one for sugar.
That that's kind of like sixweeks long.
So there would be like a courseof six weekly sessions and
people would come in and onlineand do them in a group, or I can
(39:47):
do it one to one as well.
But so when I first started Iwas seeing people for everything
from being afraid to go to theloo in public well, not got the
loo in public, got the publictoilet.
Um, blushing, um, all of the,the habits like smoking,
(40:09):
drinking, that kind of thing,weight loss, um, fear of public
speaking, driving lessons,honestly everything, um, you
know.
But I was kind of thinking youknow who, who, the people, the
clients that I wanted to workwith.
But it works with anyone whowants to break any habit or any
(40:33):
addiction, as long as they wantto.
So, yeah, I I had a chap he wasan older guy and it was a few
years ago and he came to see meand he said right, he said I'm
here because I need to stopsmoking.
My wife wants me to stop.
I've just had a heart attackand I've got COPD, but I
(40:56):
actually quite like smoking andI didn't work with him because
he clearly didn't want to stop.
You know he was doing it forall of the wrong reasons.
He knew he should give up forhis health.
But deep down he didn't reallywant to.
He was trying to please hiswife, so I didn't do the work.
So if somebody really wants tochange that because I think the
(41:22):
thing with something like thatis, it's it is a habit, but it
is also an addiction.
The brain gets addicted to it.
So we, when it's somethingthat's that is pleasurable, we
release dopamine in the brain,which is our pleasure hormone
and obviously be there more ofit because it feels nice.
So that's the addiction side.
(41:43):
But then you've also got thehabit side.
So, for example, if you are asmoker and you know you have a
cigarette when you get up firstthing in the morning with coffee
and then maybe you have acigarette after, after you've
eaten, or maybe you've got ameeting and you're going to have
a cigarette before you go intothe meeting.
And then you know sometimespeople will have two or three
(42:06):
before they go to a meetingbecause they start panicking,
thinking it's going to be a longtime before they can have one.
So that side of it is the habit.
You know you kind of associate.
You know you kind of associate.
And yeah, with alcohol, youknow you get you, you, your
brain gets addicted to alcohol,but also, again, there is a
habit to that.
So if you finish work and thefirst thing you do is have a
(42:28):
glass of wine, you know that'sthe habit you associate
finishing work with with thewine.
So what hypnotherapy does is itworks with both of those.
So it works with the addictionside and it works with the habit
side.
When somebody is trying to stopdoing something through
willpower and they're not usingthe subconscious mind, most of
(42:54):
the time it won't work.
They might be able to do it fora little while and then they'll
kind of cave in, they'll givein and when you know, when
things get a bit hard or whenthey're triggered or when
they're overwhelmed, they'll goback to that.
Yeah, um, but with hypnotherapywe are really rewiring the way
(43:15):
the brain thinks, um, the waythe subconscious mind thinks and
processes that habit andbehavior.
Um, and often that's aboutchallenging beliefs as well.
Um, yeah, helping someonebelieve that they can.
They can do it.
Um, I've seen a lady today inperson, um, she came.
(43:39):
I've seen her before, I'veworked with her before.
She came to stop drinking twoyears ago and we did six
sessions and I always ask peoplehow they feel about their habit
.
In the beginning, you know,rate it out of 10, and 10 being
the worst that it can be.
And this lady was an 11 whenshe came to see me last year.
(43:59):
She was like alcohol is totallyout of control.
I'm drinking every day, I can't, I can't stop, and when I'm not
drinking, I'm thinking about it.
We did six sessions and by thesixth session her score out of
10 was 0.5 and she wasn'tdrinking and she said it's
amazing, this is life-changing.
(44:22):
And anyway, she I've seen hertoday for a top-up session
because she had um, somethinghappened in her life.
That um triggered feelings ofbeing overwhelmed and not coping
and when it kind of started her, she thought I'll have a glass
(44:44):
of wine, one glass of wine willbe fine.
And she had one glass of wineand of course it wasn't a fine
um.
So she reignited you know that,that um, that that pathway, if
you like, in her brain went oh,wine, you know, and the dopamine
.
And so as soon as she did that,of course, then it was like the
(45:06):
next day she had another oneand then, um, so, yeah, so we've
.
When I broke it down with hertoday, it seems like the.
You know the root of this is isis social anxiety and and so
we've had to work on that to um.
You know we've done a I didquite a big session with her
(45:27):
today, so she's going to comeback to me next week and let me
know how she feels.
Um, and I'm totally confidentthat she can.
You know she can do it becauseI think now she recognizes that
even though the hypnotherapyworked for her, she let her
guard down and having that onethat's kind of reignited the you
know, that kind of addictionside of it, you know, in in the,
(45:49):
in the brain.
So it it's not, you know it's.
It's certainly not magic, um,and you've got to have an
awareness, I think, about thingsthat will trigger you in the
future potentially, and howyou'll kind of manage life
situations where previously youwould have turned to alcohol or
(46:11):
drugs or, you know, smoking orwhatever it is.
Um, I did work with a guy once,um, he was quite local but we
did it online because it wasthrough COVID and he was a
heroin addict, um, and I waslike, oh, my goodness, I'm a bit
nervous about this um, but wedid four sessions and um, and he
(46:37):
no longer uses heroin and hethen booked a smoking session in
with me and I do that with justone session for smoking.
It's a long session but it'sjust one session, and then he
gave up smoking as well, um,through that and it was
brilliant.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
They're like the angel here helping so many
people Like, yeah, I wonder ifyou have a gift card here, honey
, I don't want you to smokeanymore.
But, like you said, they haveto be willing to do it.
Yeah, it has to come from them.
It's not like, hey, you know,I'm not sure if you're okay with
(47:22):
smoke.
You know I plan to quit.
That can be just words comingout of somebody's mouth, so I
never hold my breath on that one.
You know they've been doing itfor a long time.
You can't just quit.
I've been doing it for a longtime.
You can't just quit.
My mom and dad, they had to settheir mindset and they actually
did quit for us kids.
So, but you know, now,unfortunately, karaoke is held
(47:52):
at a bar, but it's a smoking barand you could just, I'm not a
smoker.
So it's like I'm taking insmoke and I don't want to do
that by choice.
But yeah, the doctor was likedo you smoke?
No, I breathe it in.
So you smoke and I gosecondhand.
You know I'm just kind of like,oh, but I don't want any of
that to ever hurt my health.
(48:14):
So I'm trying to reevaluate.
Do I go back to the old placethat I used to go for karaoke,
and I've done that a couple oftimes and boy can I breathe.
I can breathe good, and so.
But there's pros and cons.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yeah, a lot of people were.
I don't know what it's like inamerica, but here in the uk, um,
you can't smoke inside at all.
Um, and everybody was really,really annoyed when they brought
this law in.
Um, because people used to, youknow, smoking in bars and
things and you just cannot dothat now and people do get fined
(48:54):
.
Um, well, it's just nottolerated and you know it's a,
it's a good thing really.
That isn't it, you know, becauseif you don't smoke, you
shouldn't have to breathe it init's, you know it.
It's got like thousands andthousands of really nasty
chemicals in and you know, notjust nicotine things in that
(49:19):
kill you.
Um, I think you've got to getto because I tried to stop
smoking before I actually didwith hypnosis um, you've got to
get to the point where you thinkthat there's, you know, there's
a real need and want to to doit.
(49:41):
Yeah, so for me it wasobviously the cancer.
Um, and you know, whateveraddiction it is, you've got to
get to that point where it'sjust like I'm not gonna do this
anymore.
I can't do it anymore.
Um, yeah, and and yeah it's,it's got to really come from
here and and some people can dothat with, with willpower.
(50:04):
Um, my dad I mean he he's passednow, but he was a heavy smoker
when we were children now and hesmoked in a house because you,
you know, you did then, um, andwe hated it.
My mother never smoked and meand my brother, we hated it and
he used to hang his work coat upin in the cupboard where all of
(50:26):
the coats were and, honestly,when you went in there, all of
our clothes would smell justlike smoke oh yeah, but he, he
got to.
This is really weird, this isreally funny.
But um years ago, obviously,cigarettes were very cheap and,
um, when they got to like onepound a packet, which would be I
(50:52):
don't know how many one dollar,50 or 20 or I don't know, but
anyway, when it, when the pricegot to that, he was like I'm not
gonna smoke anymore because I'mnot paying that amount of money
, and he literally stopped andhe was nice, he must have been
smoking 40 a day, easy.
My dad, um, and he just likestopped after years and years,
(51:17):
and years.
And we were at the store like,oh, I'd never do it, you'll
never do it, but you did.
And I think he did it just outof sheer bloody mindedness.
You know, I'm just yeah, um,yeah, I think there's a tipping
point for everyone isn't there?
Speaker 1 (51:34):
yeah, there is.
I remember the only thing Iremember being addicted to was
Starbucks coffee, and I rememberI would get like three or four
a day when I worked at the mallbecause it was right there.
I one day remember this soclearly.
(51:54):
How much would I save out ofthe month if I stopped doing
these drinks, like during thewhole week, and maybe just do
one?
Yeah, I saved a lot of moneyand that was eye-opening for me
and I quit altogether and nowit's like Starbucks.
Okay, maybe I find it like theirfrappuccinos.
(52:16):
I don't drink hot coffee there,but their frappuccinos are good
.
However, if I have a sorethroat, I'll be like I want
something cold to drink.
Let me go to Starbucks.
So I find myself there onlywhen I have a sore throat, and
then, other than that, I've justmade it an attempt to, even at
the mall, I'll walk right by it.
(52:38):
I wish they still hadfrutalates in the mall.
Now you only find them inhospitals.
But having the strawberry andbanana smoothie, it's good for
you.
That is what suits me intoday's age.
So, but overcoming that withbrain power and mind what do
(53:00):
they call it?
Mind of matter.
So you know, you've got to setthose goals and change the ways.
I did want to ask you, becauseyou're the owner of a company
too, and I wrote this down theRewired Woman.
What is that all about?
Speaker 2 (53:17):
okay, so it it's.
I mean, essentially it's, um,it's pulling everything together
, um, about rewiring the mind,but also rewiring the body.
We talked a little bit aboutenergy as well, um, because we
can work with the subconscious,we can change our mindset, um,
(53:40):
we can get rid of old beliefsand create new, new beliefs and
new concepts.
But sometimes energy can getstuck in the body as well, um,
you know, trauma can get stuckin the body, fear can get stuck
in in the body, and so by kindof aligning the, the mind and
(54:03):
the body, using the, themovement of yoga and kundalini
yoga in particular, moving, um,you know, the body, using the
sound and the breath, and alsousing the meditation and the
hypnotherapy, and pulling it alltogether, we can rewire our
(54:24):
whole selves.
So, essentially, that's whatthis company is about, and it's
about helping women torewirewire themselves, their
mind and their body, and bringthemselves back into alignment
with who they want to be and andhow they want to live their
lives.
Um, and so I, I I do that on a,on a one-to-one, um, and also
(54:49):
in some groups, but I also do,uh, retreats as well, so kind of
days and events and things.
I've got one coming up at theend of March, locally to where I
live, and it's good because wecan pull all of these modalities
together and we can also themethem as well.
(55:14):
So, the one that I'm doing atthe end of March, we're going to
be working through the chakras,so we'll be shifting those
energy blocks, you know, andalso individuals will be able to
work on whatever it is thatthey need to shift in their mind
as well, so we can rewire thewhole selves.
Essentially, that's what it'sabout I?
Speaker 1 (55:37):
I want to go.
Do you have any special?
Speaker 2 (55:40):
rates, you have to fly over here and stay over here
.
But I'm looking at, I'm lookingat doing some abroad, probably
next year.
Now there is a possibility,there might be one later in in
in the year, this year in inSpain, but that is just a
possibility at the moment.
Spain, yeah, and we do so.
(56:02):
We also do, you know, quantumhealing and forest bathing and
some breath work as well, alittle bit of EFT and some
journaling.
Oh, you would love it.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
You would love it, I would love it, would love it, I
would love it, I would.
Yeah, I have a lot more tolearn about EFT.
I said that right?
Yeah, because I I don't knowmuch, but that's going to be a
whole other podcast I'll bringyou back on.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, can you sum it up reallyquick what EFT does?
Speaker 2 (56:36):
or it stands for emotional freedom, technique and
essentially, you know, you'rekind of, you know you're tapping
on on the meridian lines aroundyour face and your hands and
your fingers while you we've,you know what we're energy, but
(56:56):
we, we have these um as well aschakras, we have the meridian
lines in our body and it worksvery similar to um, to
acupuncture.
So you know you're, you'restimulating that, that part of
your, your body, and and thatenergy meridian um, and whilst
you're doing that, you'reacknowledging that, despite
(57:20):
whatever issue you have, forexample, that you are, you're a
strong and a capable person.
You know and you're, you'reconfident, you're a worthy
person.
You know and you can do this.
You can do whatever you, youknow, you want you, you want to
do, and it sends those um, thosemessages into into the body, um
(57:43):
, and it's brilliant and it'sit's very effective, it's, it's
good for lots of things andpeople tend to use it for um,
for fears and things.
Sometimes.
I don't know if you fly often,but if you, if you, you can
sometimes see people tapping ona plane, you know yes, I've seen
people tap.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
They actually what was it?
Tiktok or something they were.
There was, I guess, a timing,like they were always doing the
tap, you know, and it kind offaded out.
But you know they were showinghow I guess that works.
So but I never reallyunderstood it quite.
But I think I have a betteridea right now.
(58:26):
So, but there's just so much tolearn from you.
So if somebody wanted tocontact you, how would they find
you?
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Okay, so they can get me through my website, which is
just my name,jacqueline-carsoncom.
They can find me that way.
Um, I'm on LinkedIn andFacebook mostly, um, so they can
just search for me on there.
Just um, my my name, jacquelineCarson.
I am on Instagram, but I Idon't do as much on it on
(58:57):
Instagram, but I'm certainlythere.
But if anybody wanted to, um,you know, speak to me, ask me
any questions, find out any more.
They can email me from mywebsite.
Essentially yeah sorry, just youknow it's it's.
It's good to follow, isn't it?
You know, if anybody wants tocome over onto my Facebook page
(59:18):
and follow, that would be niceas well.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Definitely, and, as I mentioned, we have that VIP
page.
Guys, if you want to subscribeand be a part of the Keep Hope
Alive podcast, she'll send outinformation about her classes,
courses, so you can sign up,which is really cool.
So, but definitely want tocheck that out.
(59:41):
So email is the best way and,oh my gosh, okay.
So let's really quick.
Future goals going into 26 isthere anything that you're
working on?
Speaker 2 (59:53):
on?
Yeah, there is.
I'm in the middle of writing mybook and um I I was hoping, I'm
hoping, to get it publishedthis year, but it absolutely has
to be done, um, before nextyear.
Um, I can't take it intoanother year.
So I'm in the middle of doingthat, um and the.
(01:00:14):
The book has a working titlewhich is um heal your mind, heal
your life, um, so it's reallyexciting.
It's.
It's about there's a little bitof my journey in there, but but
it's it's about helping peopleto use that resource which is
their subconscious mind to beable to overcome anything,
(01:00:36):
because once you can hypnotizeyourself, you really can achieve
and overcome, you know,whatever it is that you want.
So so the book is aboutteaching you how to do that and
in that book describing you knowhow I've done it and also some
of my clients case studies aswell.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
That is so cool.
Well, I'm wishing you the bestof luck and good vibes and
energy to get it done in 25.
I hear yes.
So I want to say thank you,jacqueline, for coming on to
keep up alive and sharing yourstory and what you're doing, and
(01:01:17):
I want our listeners to reachout to you for coming on to Keep
Hope Alive and sharing yourstory and what you're doing, and
I want our listeners to reachout to you.
You can also go towwwkeephopelivepodcastcom.
I have a leave a message thatyou can leave a voicemail for
Jacqueline if you have anyquestions, and I'll get it right
to her and everything.
But definitely, wherever youguys find your podcast, you'll
(01:01:38):
be able to find Keep Hope Alive.
If you would like to be a gueston our show, please send us an
email at keephopealivenm atgmailcom.
We have so many new episodescoming up too.
I'm so excited because they'rereally catering into what the
(01:01:58):
world's going through right now,and I think that's really what
matters.
As I'm losing my voice, I'msorry, so, but definitely come,
subscribe, check out everything,let us know what you think.
So, but other than that, I wantto check, check with Miss
Jacqueline that we coveredeverything, right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yeah, I think we did.
It's been, oh, it's just beenamazing talking to you.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate it, andit's nice to hear a little bit
about you as well.
So, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I'm full of stories.
I've become a better listenerlately.
I'm full of stories.
I've become a better listenerlately.
I'm proud of myself so.
But you guys, thank you so much, until our next show.
Love and light.
Bye-bye, guys.
Hello and welcome to Keep Hope Alive podcast.
We have a great show for youtoday.
I got Miss Jacqueline Carsonhere with us.
Thank you for coming on to theshow.
She's a hypnotherapist,mediation teacher.
She does yoga I guess classesis that and also she is the
(00:25):
owner of the Rewired Woman andwe are going to dive into
everything that she does becauseshe is a multi-talented woman.
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
Definitely a non-disclosure agreement, I
think.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
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Nobody knows anything.
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All right, so here we go, missJacqueline.
So who's Miss Jacqueline Carson?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Hello and thank you for having me on.
It's really lovely to be here,hi oh thank you.
(03:32):
So I'm gonna ask who are you?
Okay, right, oh, wow, um, well,as you said, um, I'm a clinical
hypnotherapist, a meditationteacher, um, and I'm a kundalini
yoga student.
I'll explain a little bit moreabout that, but I haven't always
been, and my background is insocial work, and I trained and
qualified in child protectionsocial work quite a few years
(03:55):
ago now, but what I found was,over the years, it's certainly's
certainly really very, verystressful, um, job, um, and I
found that I was really, Isuppose, really quite struggling
to cope with, you know, thestress of the job, um, the very,
(04:18):
very long hours working lateinto the night and through the
evenings and things, and, and,um, and I was a single parent as
well, so trying to raise mykids, um, and everything that
goes, you know, along with that.
And then, um, I was diagnosedwith breast cancer in 2014, on
(04:40):
the 1st of April I know itsounds like an April Fool's joke
, but it wasn't you know whatthey say about dates and
everything, so yeah, and um, andit was.
It was super stressful because Iuh, there'd been quite a few
cancers in my family and I'dlost a few family members and,
(05:01):
um, some cousins, even um,around about the same age as me,
from cancer, and so I wasreally, really scared what I was
doing.
At that time, though, becauseof the stress of the job that I
had, I was actually drinkingquite a lot.
I was smoking quite heavy.
(05:22):
I wasn't really.
I thought I was smoking quiteheavy.
I wasn't really.
I thought I was healthy, youknow, and I thought that I ate
quite well and I exercised, Irode horses, you know, I had
dogs, I walked a lot, I lived inthe country, did all of the
things, but and I couldn'tunderstand, you know why I was
(05:43):
diagnosed with cancer and forsome reason it didn't even enter
my head.
Well, you've been drinking foryears, you've been smoking for
years, you know, maybe youhaven't been eating properly,
but I decided that I had toreally kind of quit, I had to
(06:05):
change my life, but I had tolook at the stress.
I couldn't keep on going theway that I was going, because a
lot of the drinking and smokinganyway was self-medicating.
It was trying to relieve someof the stress and the pressure.
So I started with the job andthat's what led me to retrain to
(06:26):
be a clinical hypnotherapist.
I had some hypnotherapy as partof my treatment to help me kind
of process what was going onwith the cancer and everything.
And it was just it, it was justamazing it was.
It really helped me kind of putthings into perspective and
(06:48):
work out a plan really of what Ineeded to do.
Um, I knew for sure that Iwanted to live and I knew that
if I continued on the, thetrajectory that I was on, that,
you know, I wasn't going to.
You know, even if this cancerwas, um, healed, you know, even
(07:09):
even if through treatment it washealed, if I kept drinking and
smoking and being stressed todeath, it it was just going to
come back somewhere else maybe.
Um, so yeah, so I I thought,right, let's change the job.
Um, so I did that, became ahypnotherapist and then I used
(07:31):
hypnosis to stop smoking.
Um, a couple of years later,used hypnosis to stop drinking.
Then I found out I was actuallyaddicted to sugar because
there's so much sugar in alcohol.
So when I stopped drinking itwas like I can't get enough
cakes and things.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I was like my appetite has picked up but I
quit drinking as much wine andhaving a shot, you know um, but
I noticed my appetite is likewhere's the sweets?
So yeah, thank.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
God for Valentine's Day.
Well, I mean, I don't eat anynow, or very rarely, and usually
, if I have any chocolate oranything, I'll have like very,
very, very dark.
I don't know if you've evertried 100% chocolate before it.
It doesn't taste that nice, um,but I'll have something like
(08:33):
that if I, if I fancy um any anychocolate, because I also
became vegan too.
Um, when I, when I started tolook into breast cancer and
cancer in general and diet andall of that, I mean you can go a
bit down a rabbit hole, but Ifound that I was getting lots of
(08:53):
tummy upsets.
You know, I was and it's weirdbecause I can't remember having
these when I was drinking.
It all seemed to happen after Iwas drinking these dietary
things and I used to buy I don'tknow if you can get them where
you are, but we have theselittle kind of they're like
little yogurt drinks, like whatdo you call them?
(09:16):
Like prebiotics, probioticthings.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh, okay, I was thinking the animals, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
So I used to drink those, thinking they were really
good for me.
But every time I had one mystomach was just bloating and
growling.
So I had an intolerance testand it found I was sensitive to
gluten and also dairy, and Iused to eat loads of cheese, um,
(09:49):
so I just thought you know what?
I'm just gonna go the whole hog.
So I just cut all animalproducts out, all sugar out, so
I don't smoke, I don't drink, Idon't eat sugar or processed
foods and I don't eat any meator dairy, any animal products
now.
But I feel amazing.
Um, that's good, yeah, and it's.
(10:10):
And it's almost 11 years nowsince I was diagnosed with
breast cancer and so since thenI have, um, I work now with
women mainly.
I do do do work with men aswell, but I market to women
because I kind of I want to beable to help women who were in
(10:34):
my situation.
So I was a professional person,I was educated, but I was very
highly stressed and burnt out,which was leading to these
addictions and and almost kindof like a self-harm in a way,
really.
Um, and I used to think I wouldnever stop drinking.
(10:56):
I used to think it wasimpossible to stop smoking, um,
and so when I did it it was justlike wow, I can't believe how
easy it was.
With hypnosis, you know, it wasjust like I was blown away.
So now I help.
You know my, my.
I see my purpose as being ableto help women to um, to be able
(11:20):
to kind of overcome similarissues.
You know, even if that issomething like anxiety or lack
of confidence or like a what'sthe word, you know, like
imposter syndrome or something,any of those things can lead us
down a path where we are kind ofnot particularly in control of
(11:46):
our, of ourselves and um and our.
You know our direction and itcan, um, cause us to behave in
ways that we may not want to, orhabits and addictions and
things.
So, um, so that's what you know.
That's kind of where I'm at,but I've added into um.
I also trained as a meditationteacher because it's all about
the.
You know that's kind of whereI'm at, but I've added into I
also trained as a meditationteacher because it's all about
(12:09):
the, you know the changing andrewiring the subconscious mind.
And then I have now studyingyoga as well.
So bringing everything together, working with the mind and the
body for the whole self, whichis amazing.
It's yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, yeah, I've never tried yoga.
I've seen it, you know, butI've never tried it.
I have tried meditation andhypnotherapy.
I did by listening to one of mylast speakers he does it like
on a video and we'll walk youthrough it and I was like, but I
(12:53):
remember I did fall asleep andI remember at the end of the
video, for some reason, therewas this loud noise and I woke
up.
I was like I don't know thatthat's normal, like if you're
watching a video of it, thatthey want you to wake up.
But I just thought I was goingto drift away and go to sleep
(13:15):
okay.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So the the aim is not to go to sleep, the aim is to
kind of get you in that, um,very relaxed state, but you're
still just I'm not saying Ihaven't had clients fall asleep,
because I have, which in a wayis a compliment, because they're
so relaxed, but that's, you'renot really wanting to get
somebody asleep, you're wantingthem to be deeply relaxed and
(13:39):
you can still hear everything.
But it shouldn't, kind ofreally it shouldn't disturb you.
You know to to.
Your focus should be on on thehypnotherapist voice.
But I, I do work online too andum, okay, I've worked with
people in America and um inItaly and New Zealand and um,
(14:02):
spain and places like that, andit, it, it works very, very well
.
But you would I don't knowabout the person that you worked
with, but I would, yeah, getyou to kind of just close your
eyes and and relax while you're,you know, while you're
listening, but then Ipurposefully bring people back
out of that.
(14:23):
So maybe there was justsomething that fell off.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It could have been just a video, who knows Like
that part of the video and maybethat was just a thing to say
okay, your time is up.
This was a free video orsomething, so I'm not 100% sure,
but I'm intrigued to learn moreabout this because I know, even
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with meditation, I was in agroup and we did a group
meditation and it was so amazing.
I could not believe the energyin that room and it was like I
could feel myself actually leavemy body and I was floating up,
looking down.
I was in space, I guess,because it was beautiful, but I
could feel myself actually leavemy body and I was floating up,
looking down.
I was in space, I guess,because it was beautiful, but I
could see America and we werepraying for people, and I just
(15:14):
prayed for nurses and teachers,but it looked like a gridlock of
lights all over and I was likeI didn't want to leave that
moment one bit.
I felt so heavenly, I felt likemy word was getting out more by
doing this meditation.
So, yeah, but that was many,many, many years ago and I did
(15:35):
go back to the same place andthey're not there anymore and I
was like, oh man, I reallywanted to go and do that again
and stuff more.
And I was like, oh man, Ireally wanted to go and do that
again and stuff.
And now they opened a store inAllen called the Mindful Mermaid
and I want to look into that alittle bit more too, because
that meditation, oh, it's sorelaxing to the soul.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, it sounds like you had an amazing experience
because there's lots ofdifferent types of meditation,
and I think that that's whatdrew me to kundalini yoga more
than anything, because it it'snot like other genres of yoga
(16:23):
and it it, um, it works.
It it it of kind of um, likechanting and mantra, and like,
exactly like you've just said,when you're in a group and
you're all kind of chantingtogether, the energy is just
amazing.
You feel fantastic and yeah,and people have all different
(16:48):
kinds of experiences and and itit's yeah, it can be just
blissful, it's just a beautifulplace to be, isn't it?
It's, it's gorgeous it reallyis.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
There's nothing like it.
Mean, I grew up with epilepsy.
I've had out-of-bodyexperiences.
One of them was like sodifferent I'm just going to have
to ask God when I see them.
But I was walking up whitestairs into the sky.
I got to the door and I heardwe're just not ready for you,
(17:24):
and I felt backwards.
But I felt myself land into mybody.
I think I was nine years oldand I sat up and the doctor's
like you just had a seizure, areyou okay?
I go yeah, I'm ready to go home.
I was with God.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Wow, I was like I didn't know what to say Young
children now, up until the ageof seven, I mean, we know that
they haven't developed theprefrontal cortex yet in the
brain, so they don't have theability to use logic and they
tend to live in theirsubconscious mind.
(18:02):
They're in the present, their,they're in the present, they're
completely in the present.
Um, however, also, you knowchildren, very, very young
children.
They're very close to, they'revery close to source, so that
you know, because they're,they're newly, they're newborn,
aren't they?
So they, so they have this um,you know this kind of this sense
(18:27):
, I suppose, of of their souland where we came from, um, and
I just think it's so sad that welose this as we get older yeah
and it sounds like that was likeyour experience, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well, I was very, at a young age, intuitive let's put
it that way and then it waskind of like growing up, like I
think it was in my 20s, goinginto 30s.
I learned more about myself andI'll just say I'm awake.
So I have been through thatjourney and but it brought me
(19:09):
closer to that part at that timeand, yes, I'm writing about it.
So now I feel like the relivingof it and what I truly learned
and what I really took away fromthat and how can I use that to
bring it, you know, onto the newversion of me, who is 47 and
(19:32):
rising up to probably be 80 orsomething, who knows?
But yeah, it's like a newchapter, or maybe I'm having a
midlife crisis, who knows, maybeI'm having a midlife crisis,
who knows?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I think we get to a certain point in life where we,
you know, much like with youngchildren, I think we kind of we
lose touch with that for a while, and then I think we get to a
certain age where we are almostkind of searching for that again
(20:05):
.
Like you say, that it's kind oflike the, the home we're trying
to find, our home, um, and, andso I and again, I think you
would love kundalini yoga, youwould love it, um, and I think
that that's what that does forme, it, it, it, you know it kind
of um, it, it's it, it kind ofhelps you and and steers you to
(20:31):
understand a little bit moreabout that kind of awakening, if
you like, or, or your, you knowyour purpose and your direction
and and, um, and it's, it's,it's just, I think he would
absolutely love it.
But when you said, you know, Ihad a crazy experience once when
I was having my daughter andshe's 30 now and I remember my
(21:00):
husband at the time, you know, Iremember sitting up in bed
thinking and I said to him Ijust died, I just died, I've
come back to life, I've justdied, and he was like, don't be
crazy, you know, it's just thegas and air.
But I can remember, like you'vejust said, I I was kind of.
I came, I went right up intothe corner of the room and it
(21:24):
was all white and I was lookingdown and I could see myself
giving birth to my daughter.
I remember it was just before,actually, she was delivered and
I actually found it a bitfrightening, actually, a bit a
(21:45):
bit kind of scary, um, but Iwill never forget it, it, you
know it.
It was just I was in twodifferent places, I was looking
down on me, so whether or not Idid die and I was, I don't know.
Um, I didn't get any message,but but it, it, it was surreal.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It was.
Yeah, yeah, I even one of myseizures I had was when I worked
at Macy's and um, we get like athing called Aurora it lets us
know 10 to 15 minutes before itcould happen, and I guess I just
decided to get to the bathroom,which was probably a big
(22:27):
mistake, but then again, maybeit wasn't, because I didn't want
anybody to see me have this.
However, I guess in the stall Iwent down and maybe hit my head
against the toilet, maybe hitmy head against the toilet.
(22:50):
I then was standing outside ofmy body and I saw myself up
against the panel with oursecurity guard Nadine, don't die
on us, come back.
And I'm like I am right here.
I am just like right here, likehello, hello, I'm looking at
you, I'm not dead.
And I was like why am I herefeeling the outside talking?
She can't hear me, why does shekeep thinking I'm dead?
(23:12):
And I remember I went back intomy body and then I came back out
.
She got me out of the bathroombut like I was a bridal
consultant, I have fullknowledge of everything.
My favorite bed was hotelcollection, but they put me on
Martha Stewart for some reason.
(23:33):
I laugh about this now becausewhen I went back out of my body
I was like on a bed, peoplestanding around the ambulance.
I was like, what is going on?
Where am I going?
Where's my body going?
Should I go with it?
Like, why is she having me on,martha Stewart?
This is crazy.
And then I got into.
(23:56):
I felt myself go back in.
I know I was at the hospital.
My aunt came to visit me andshe's so sweet, she's like.
I brought some food and it wasnoodles and beef tips.
I ate it.
But it put me back in a seizureand I was like but I didn't
jump out of my body that time.
So there has been many caseslike now, not only the first
(24:18):
time it happens, and I had toask my neurologist, like why is
this really happening to me?
Like, can I have thatavailability to just jump out
and not feel the seizure?
It's unexplained, let's justleave it at that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So yeah, I think we don't have the capacity
necessarily to understand it andand I think, um, I think
sometimes, with you know, thethe medical sciences, I think I
think things are changing, but Ithink, on the whole, mostly, um
, they're not really willing toentertain that side of things
(24:58):
and and um, because they can'texplain it.
Yeah, and you know, but we areenergy, aren't we, at the end of
the day?
Yes, I just think it's sofascinating, you know, and
whether it's linked to you know,your epilepsy, you know, or
(25:20):
what I don't know.
You know, maybe it's morelikely to happen when.
When that happens, I don't know, it's unexplained, but it's,
it's really interesting.
Yeah, have you ever been scaredwhen it's happened?
Then?
(25:41):
Have I ever been what, af?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
no, no, I had peace.
It's like, well, the first Idid.
I was so young the first time,but because of the first time I
had no fear.
And then I remember, um, um,what was it?
I was scared when that was thisthe last time, Maybe four years
(26:07):
ago.
Those stupid edibles I havechronic pain.
So I was directed what to eatof this Hershey bar thing and I
was told to eat half, like half,the bar when it should have
been a tiny little square.
(26:28):
That sent me into seizure and Ireally thought I was dead.
I couldn't even feel my body,my left side of my body, and I
still have an effect calledneuralgia parathosichia now from
my leg, and I do feel that.
You know, coming back, I wasfeeling paralyzed and I was
(26:49):
telling it was not white thistime when I went out, which is
really weird.
But I remember saying I named mykids full names, I'm not ready
to go.
And then I was like I named mykids full names, I'm not ready
to go.
And then I was like I hated thefeeling of the seizure.
It would not.
It felt like five to six hours,but I remember saying I can't
(27:10):
feel any of my body.
If this is going to be my newlife.
I don't want to be here.
Just take me, please take me,and you know so you're battling.
Take me, please take me, andyou know so you're you're
battling.
Do you really want to be hereand have maybe all this pain and
still be with the kids, or youknow what is it that you want?
And because it wasn't a whitelight, that kind of like, I felt
(27:31):
like I was kind of stuck.
Does that make sense?
I was in between, not knowingwhere I was going, but I had
major decisions to make.
So I don't know it wasdifferent, but that was a
seizure that I remember, sittingup and telling the guy I was
dating I died.
He's like you'll be okay.
(27:53):
He did the same thing to me.
I was like no, I really died.
These men, you know they're allthe same, aren't they?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
oh yes, I'm not go back to sleep.
Yeah, um, you know, I'm justnot sure that they are as
intuitive, um, as a swimmer attimes.
I'm not saying they're all likethat, but I think that, yeah,
I'm not sure that they arereally.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Now sometimes, you know, I think, especially now
that I'm dating, I'm alwayswondering are the guys really
listening to the woman too?
You know, because we want to beheard, we want to share stuff.
You know we want to be heard,we want to share stuff, you know
.
It's just, you know.
I think, you know, with theguys they're working, they're
always tired, Lots of thingsgoing on, but it's just like a
(28:49):
breathing time.
Hopefully they can refocus andsee what they need to focus on.
If that makes sense to us women.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, I've been single for a while now, um, and
I like it because, um, I find Ican be a lot more creative.
Um, maybe it's, I don't know,maybe it is about control or
something, but I, um, I justfeel that I can.
I can do more, you know, and,and I have done more.
I've done so much more.
I've traveled more, um, youknow, I've done more in my work
(29:25):
and my business and everything,um, I've achieved so much more,
I think, while I've been on myown.
Don't know whether that's justbecause I've been a lot more,
you know, focused, I haven't gotto consider anybody else, um,
or whether it's because, yeah,it's like a sense of freedom.
I don't have to, I don't haveto check anything by anyone.
You know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, I can do what I want, which is just brilliant
and amazing that is, yeah, I'velearned, like the thing is, I've
been single and I was like, canI stay single and be very happy
?
And I think the answer comesdown to no.
(30:06):
And then I'm starting toanalyze why is that?
And then I started building mybucket list.
Well, I want to travel more,but why do I think I need a guy
to travel with?
You know, I could do this on myown, or maybe just have a
friend, a new girlfriend, andyou know, hey, let's take a road
(30:28):
trip.
You know, just so I have thatcompany.
But I know, as I start to date,I'm setting up boundaries and
learning about myself.
Still, what is it that I need?
I think right now I do feel alittle insecure because of last
year, what I've been through,trying to date and I've been it
(30:53):
hasn't been pleasant, I'll justsay it.
It hasn't been pleasant at all,but I learned from it, I'm
growing from it.
Am I trying again?
Yes, I am.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I'm holding on to hope so much.
So we just got to see.
I think, you know we havelessons to learn in this life.
I don don't think.
Well, none of my relationshipsI've been married twice none of
my relationships, um, were thatsuccessful, despite being with
one person twice, um, ending therelationship, you know, and
(31:33):
then come going back again andit's still not working.
And, um, and I thought thatperson was my soul mate at the
time, um, maybe he still is, Idon't know.
Maybe we had lessons, you know,to learn from each other, but
it, um, I think I found that Iwasn't.
(31:56):
I might have learned a lot oflessons through those
relationships, but I wasn't.
I wasn't really developing asmy self.
You know, like you just said, Ifelt that I couldn't grow in
myself because thoserelationships were controlling,
um, and so I didn't feel that Icould even explore who I was and
(32:19):
what I really wanted, you know,out of my life.
And being single, I think, hasallowed me to do that and to
explore those things.
But I travel on my own, I goaway on my own and I've done
some retreats and things whichare amazing.
Because you're traveling, youyou're meeting new people as
(32:43):
well, um, yeah, which is nice.
Um, and yeah, the world.
I think our brain naturallytries to keep us safe and then
we, oh yeah, we hide behind that.
You know, we, we kind of feelwe need that comfort zone, don't
we?
(33:03):
Um?
But then actually, when youstep outside of that and you go
do something, it it's not asscary and even if it is a bit
scary when you've done it it'san amazing sense of achievement.
You know, feeling proud youhave, and, um, I still sometimes
some women might sometimes sayto me I, I don't know how you
(33:25):
can, I don't know how you can dothat.
You know I wouldn't have theconfidence to.
You know, go away on on my own.
But, um, yeah, I think it'sgreat.
And again, you don't have to,you don't have to please anybody
, you can answer.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You know you can do what you want.
I don't have a curfew, no,that's a.
You know I keep thinking maybeI have to do the cruise on my
bucket list by myself.
And you know I was like I wantto do one with my children, but
I also want to do one by myself,you know, and see if I like it.
(34:02):
And you know I always thought Iwanted to work on a cruise line
as an event planner too.
So it's like, hey, I just havea few more years until my son
gets old.
Maybe I can go do that.
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Wow, I have some friends cause I do, um, I dance,
I do ballroom and LatinAmerican dancing.
I'm not an expert, I do it forfun.
And my dance teachers, um, they, um, were they, they were, you
know, professional dancers umgoing back years and they did
(34:37):
some work on cruise ships aswell after they stopped doing
professional dancing.
And their son is a dancer andhe is currently on a cruise ship
.
Now that is what he does andhas traveled the world just
doing what he loves dancing.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I wish.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I could be on a cruise line just podcasting yeah
, I wish I could be on a cruiseline just podcasting.
Yeah, that would be so fun.
You know there is a because Ithought of that and there is.
There is quite a famoushypnotherapist who, um, um, who
does go on cruise shipssometimes, because I thought
that's a good idea.
I could do that.
(35:17):
That would be amazing.
You know, you could kill twobirds with one stone and yeah,
and see the world and have.
You know, have fun.
Who knows?
yeah you see, and then you maybecould podcast.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Can you imagine you could interview loads of people
on a cruise, loads of people, ohyeah, and then you get off of
the ship for a little bit, maybeinterview locals.
You know, there I'm aphotographer too.
Get some pictures, do the blog.
The whole nine yards yeah, thatwould be so fun.
I can see it now.
(35:51):
Oh, wow, the cruise podcast byKeep Hope Alive, keep Travel
Alive.
So that would be fun.
Hey, any cruise ships want topick me up.
(36:12):
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I love it Absolutely.
I'm enjoying this conversationwe're having.
(38:22):
I love it Absolutely Becauseyou yeah, I mean, you amaze me,
that's what it is and you knoware you also helping people who
try to break habits, like youmentioned drinking and smoking?
Is that what you set up sometherapy sessions to do?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, so when I first started I set up kind of like a
.
I rented a room, so local towhere I live and seeing people
in person.
Obviously, when we had COVID,that changed everything for
everybody, didn't it?
And so the only way to seeclients was to work with with
them on zoom, and I had no ideaif it would work, but it but it
(39:04):
did.
So my business now has kind ofdeveloped into I can still see
local people one-to-one if theywant to, but a lot of the work
is kind of on online.
So and it one-to-one like this,like you know, like we're
chatting now but I also do someum groups.
(39:26):
I do sometimes do some workshopsor um, I've done um programs.
So, for example, um, I did onefor alcohol, one for sugar.
That that's kind of like sixweeks long.
So there would be like a courseof six weekly sessions and
people would come in and onlineand do them in a group, or I can
(39:47):
do it one to one as well.
But so when I first started Iwas seeing people for everything
from being afraid to go to theloo in public well, not got the
loo in public, got the publictoilet.
Um, blushing, um, all of the,the habits like smoking,
(40:09):
drinking, that kind of thing,weight loss, um, fear of public
speaking, driving lessons,honestly everything, um, you
know.
But I was kind of thinking youknow who, who, the people, the
clients that I wanted to workwith.
But it works with anyone whowants to break any habit or any
(40:33):
addiction, as long as they wantto.
So, yeah, I I had a chap he wasan older guy and it was a few
years ago and he came to see meand he said right, he said I'm
here because I need to stopsmoking.
My wife wants me to stop.
I've just had a heart attackand I've got COPD, but I
(40:56):
actually quite like smoking andI didn't work with him because
he clearly didn't want to stop.
You know he was doing it forall of the wrong reasons.
He knew he should give up forhis health.
But deep down he didn't reallywant to.
He was trying to please hiswife, so I didn't do the work.
So if somebody really wants tochange that because I think the
(41:22):
thing with something like thatis, it's it is a habit, but it
is also an addiction.
The brain gets addicted to it.
So we, when it's somethingthat's that is pleasurable, we
release dopamine in the brain,which is our pleasure hormone
and obviously be there more ofit because it feels nice.
So that's the addiction side.
(41:43):
But then you've also got thehabit side.
So, for example, if you are asmoker and you know you have a
cigarette when you get up firstthing in the morning with coffee
and then maybe you have acigarette after, after you've
eaten, or maybe you've got ameeting and you're going to have
a cigarette before you go intothe meeting.
And then you know sometimespeople will have two or three
(42:06):
before they go to a meetingbecause they start panicking,
thinking it's going to be a longtime before they can have one.
So that side of it is the habit.
You know you kind of associate.
You know you kind of associate.
And yeah, with alcohol, youknow you get you, you, your
brain gets addicted to alcohol,but also, again, there is a
habit to that.
So if you finish work and thefirst thing you do is have a
(42:28):
glass of wine, you know that'sthe habit you associate
finishing work with with thewine.
So what hypnotherapy does is itworks with both of those.
So it works with the addictionside and it works with the habit
side.
When somebody is trying to stopdoing something through
willpower and they're not usingthe subconscious mind, most of
(42:54):
the time it won't work.
They might be able to do it fora little while and then they'll
kind of cave in, they'll givein and when you know, when
things get a bit hard or whenthey're triggered or when
they're overwhelmed, they'll goback to that.
Yeah, um, but with hypnotherapywe are really rewiring the way
(43:15):
the brain thinks, um, the waythe subconscious mind thinks and
processes that habit andbehavior.
Um, and often that's aboutchallenging beliefs as well.
Um, yeah, helping someonebelieve that they can.
They can do it.
Um, I've seen a lady today inperson, um, she came.
(43:39):
I've seen her before, I'veworked with her before.
She came to stop drinking twoyears ago and we did six
sessions and I always ask peoplehow they feel about their habit
.
In the beginning, you know,rate it out of 10, and 10 being
the worst that it can be.
And this lady was an 11 whenshe came to see me last year.
(43:59):
She was like alcohol is totallyout of control.
I'm drinking every day, I can't, I can't stop, and when I'm not
drinking, I'm thinking about it.
We did six sessions and by thesixth session her score out of
10 was 0.5 and she wasn'tdrinking and she said it's
amazing, this is life-changing.
(44:22):
And anyway, she I've seen hertoday for a top-up session
because she had um, somethinghappened in her life.
That um triggered feelings ofbeing overwhelmed and not coping
and when it kind of started her, she thought I'll have a glass
(44:44):
of wine, one glass of wine willbe fine.
And she had one glass of wineand of course it wasn't a fine
um.
So she reignited you know that,that um, that that pathway, if
you like, in her brain went oh,wine, you know, and the dopamine
.
And so as soon as she did that,of course, then it was like the
(45:06):
next day she had another oneand then, um, so, yeah, so we've
.
When I broke it down with hertoday, it seems like the.
You know the root of this is isis social anxiety and and so
we've had to work on that to um.
You know we've done a I didquite a big session with her
(45:27):
today, so she's going to comeback to me next week and let me
know how she feels.
Um, and I'm totally confidentthat she can.
You know she can do it becauseI think now she recognizes that
even though the hypnotherapyworked for her, she let her
guard down and having that onethat's kind of reignited the you
know, that kind of addictionside of it, you know, in in the,
(45:49):
in the brain.
So it it's not, you know it's.
It's certainly not magic, um,and you've got to have an
awareness, I think, about thingsthat will trigger you in the
future potentially, and howyou'll kind of manage life
situations where previously youwould have turned to alcohol or
(46:11):
drugs or, you know, smoking orwhatever it is.
Um, I did work with a guy once,um, he was quite local but we
did it online because it wasthrough COVID and he was a
heroin addict, um, and I waslike, oh, my goodness, I'm a bit
nervous about this um, but wedid four sessions and um, and he
(46:37):
no longer uses heroin and hethen booked a smoking session in
with me and I do that with justone session for smoking.
It's a long session but it'sjust one session, and then he
gave up smoking as well, um,through that and it was
brilliant.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
They're like the angel here helping so many
people Like, yeah, I wonder ifyou have a gift card here, honey
, I don't want you to smokeanymore.
But, like you said, they haveto be willing to do it.
Yeah, it has to come from them.
It's not like, hey, you know,I'm not sure if you're okay with
(47:22):
smoke.
You know I plan to quit.
That can be just words comingout of somebody's mouth, so I
never hold my breath on that one.
You know they've been doing itfor a long time.
You can't just quit.
I've been doing it for a longtime.
You can't just quit.
My mom and dad, they had to settheir mindset and they actually
did quit for us kids.
So, but you know, now,unfortunately, karaoke is held
(47:52):
at a bar, but it's a smoking barand you could just, I'm not a
smoker.
So it's like I'm taking insmoke and I don't want to do
that by choice.
But yeah, the doctor was likedo you smoke?
No, I breathe it in.
So you smoke and I gosecondhand.
You know I'm just kind of like,oh, but I don't want any of
that to ever hurt my health.
(48:14):
So I'm trying to reevaluate.
Do I go back to the old placethat I used to go for karaoke,
and I've done that a couple oftimes and boy can I breathe.
I can breathe good, and so.
But there's pros and cons.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yeah, a lot of people were.
I don't know what it's like inamerica, but here in the uk, um,
you can't smoke inside at all.
Um, and everybody was really,really annoyed when they brought
this law in.
Um, because people used to, youknow, smoking in bars and
things and you just cannot dothat now and people do get fined
(48:54):
.
Um, well, it's just nottolerated and you know it's a,
it's a good thing really.
That isn't it, you know, becauseif you don't smoke, you
shouldn't have to breathe it init's, you know it.
It's got like thousands andthousands of really nasty
chemicals in and you know, notjust nicotine things in that
(49:19):
kill you.
Um, I think you've got to getto because I tried to stop
smoking before I actually didwith hypnosis um, you've got to
get to the point where you thinkthat there's, you know, there's
a real need and want to to doit.
(49:41):
Yeah, so for me it wasobviously the cancer.
Um, and you know, whateveraddiction it is, you've got to
get to that point where it'sjust like I'm not gonna do this
anymore.
I can't do it anymore.
Um, yeah, and and yeah it's,it's got to really come from
here and and some people can dothat with, with willpower.
(50:04):
Um, my dad I mean he he's passednow, but he was a heavy smoker
when we were children now and hesmoked in a house because you,
you know, you did then, um, andwe hated it.
My mother never smoked and meand my brother, we hated it and
he used to hang his work coat upin in the cupboard where all of
(50:26):
the coats were and, honestly,when you went in there, all of
our clothes would smell justlike smoke oh yeah, but he, he
got to.
This is really weird, this isreally funny.
But um years ago, obviously,cigarettes were very cheap and,
um, when they got to like onepound a packet, which would be I
(50:52):
don't know how many one dollar,50 or 20 or I don't know, but
anyway, when it, when the pricegot to that, he was like I'm not
gonna smoke anymore because I'mnot paying that amount of money
, and he literally stopped andhe was nice, he must have been
smoking 40 a day, easy.
My dad, um, and he just likestopped after years and years,
(51:17):
and years.
And we were at the store like,oh, I'd never do it, you'll
never do it, but you did.
And I think he did it just outof sheer bloody mindedness.
You know, I'm just yeah, um,yeah, I think there's a tipping
point for everyone isn't there?
Speaker 1 (51:34):
yeah, there is.
I remember the only thing Iremember being addicted to was
Starbucks coffee, and I rememberI would get like three or four
a day when I worked at the mallbecause it was right there.
I one day remember this soclearly.
(51:54):
How much would I save out ofthe month if I stopped doing
these drinks, like during thewhole week, and maybe just do
one?
Yeah, I saved a lot of moneyand that was eye-opening for me
and I quit altogether and nowit's like Starbucks.
Okay, maybe I find it like theirfrappuccinos.
(52:16):
I don't drink hot coffee there,but their frappuccinos are good
.
However, if I have a sorethroat, I'll be like I want
something cold to drink.
Let me go to Starbucks.
So I find myself there onlywhen I have a sore throat, and
then, other than that, I've justmade it an attempt to, even at
the mall, I'll walk right by it.
(52:38):
I wish they still hadfrutalates in the mall.
Now you only find them inhospitals.
But having the strawberry andbanana smoothie, it's good for
you.
That is what suits me intoday's age.
So, but overcoming that withbrain power and mind what do
(53:00):
they call it?
Mind of matter.
So you know, you've got to setthose goals and change the ways.
I did want to ask you, becauseyou're the owner of a company
too, and I wrote this down theRewired Woman.
What is that all about?
Speaker 2 (53:17):
okay, so it it's.
I mean, essentially it's, um,it's pulling everything together
, um, about rewiring the mind,but also rewiring the body.
We talked a little bit aboutenergy as well, um, because we
can work with the subconscious,we can change our mindset, um,
(53:40):
we can get rid of old beliefsand create new, new beliefs and
new concepts.
But sometimes energy can getstuck in the body as well, um,
you know, trauma can get stuckin the body, fear can get stuck
in in the body, and so by kindof aligning the, the mind and
(54:03):
the body, using the, themovement of yoga and kundalini
yoga in particular, moving, um,you know, the body, using the
sound and the breath, and alsousing the meditation and the
hypnotherapy, and pulling it alltogether, we can rewire our
(54:24):
whole selves.
So, essentially, that's whatthis company is about, and it's
about helping women torewirewire themselves, their
mind and their body, and bringthemselves back into alignment
with who they want to be and andhow they want to live their
lives.
Um, and so I, I I do that on a,on a one-to-one, um, and also
(54:49):
in some groups, but I also do,uh, retreats as well, so kind of
days and events and things.
I've got one coming up at theend of March, locally to where I
live, and it's good because wecan pull all of these modalities
together and we can also themethem as well.
(55:14):
So, the one that I'm doing atthe end of March, we're going to
be working through the chakras,so we'll be shifting those
energy blocks, you know, andalso individuals will be able to
work on whatever it is thatthey need to shift in their mind
as well, so we can rewire thewhole selves.
Essentially, that's what it'sabout I?
Speaker 1 (55:37):
I want to go.
Do you have any special?
Speaker 2 (55:40):
rates, you have to fly over here and stay over here
.
But I'm looking at, I'm lookingat doing some abroad, probably
next year.
Now there is a possibility,there might be one later in in
in the year, this year in inSpain, but that is just a
possibility at the moment.
Spain, yeah, and we do so.
(56:02):
We also do, you know, quantumhealing and forest bathing and
some breath work as well, alittle bit of EFT and some
journaling.
Oh, you would love it.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
You would love it, I would love it, would love it, I
would love it, I would.
Yeah, I have a lot more tolearn about EFT.
I said that right?
Yeah, because I I don't knowmuch, but that's going to be a
whole other podcast I'll bringyou back on.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, can you sum it up reallyquick what EFT does?
Speaker 2 (56:36):
or it stands for emotional freedom, technique and
essentially, you know, you'rekind of, you know you're tapping
on on the meridian lines aroundyour face and your hands and
your fingers while you we've,you know what we're energy, but
(56:56):
we, we have these um as well aschakras, we have the meridian
lines in our body and it worksvery similar to um, to
acupuncture.
So you know you're, you'restimulating that, that part of
your, your body, and and thatenergy meridian um, and whilst
you're doing that, you'reacknowledging that, despite
(57:20):
whatever issue you have, forexample, that you are, you're a
strong and a capable person.
You know and you're, you'reconfident, you're a worthy
person.
You know and you can do this.
You can do whatever you, youknow, you want you, you want to
do, and it sends those um, thosemessages into into the body, um
(57:43):
, and it's brilliant and it'sit's very effective, it's, it's
good for lots of things andpeople tend to use it for um,
for fears and things.
Sometimes.
I don't know if you fly often,but if you, if you, you can
sometimes see people tapping ona plane, you know yes, I've seen
people tap.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
They actually what was it?
Tiktok or something they were.
There was, I guess, a timing,like they were always doing the
tap, you know, and it kind offaded out.
But you know they were showinghow I guess that works.
So but I never reallyunderstood it quite.
But I think I have a betteridea right now.
(58:26):
So, but there's just so much tolearn from you.
So if somebody wanted tocontact you, how would they find
you?
Speaker 2 (58:35):
Okay, so they can get me through my website, which is
just my name,jacqueline-carsoncom.
They can find me that way.
Um, I'm on LinkedIn andFacebook mostly, um, so they can
just search for me on there.
Just um, my my name, jacquelineCarson.
I am on Instagram, but I Idon't do as much on it on
(58:57):
Instagram, but I'm certainlythere.
But if anybody wanted to, um,you know, speak to me, ask me
any questions, find out any more.
They can email me from mywebsite.
Essentially yeah sorry, just youknow it's it's.
It's good to follow, isn't it?
You know, if anybody wants tocome over onto my Facebook page
(59:18):
and follow, that would be niceas well.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Definitely, and, as I mentioned, we have that VIP
page.
Guys, if you want to subscribeand be a part of the Keep Hope
Alive podcast, she'll send outinformation about her classes,
courses, so you can sign up,which is really cool.
So, but definitely want tocheck that out.
(59:41):
So email is the best way and,oh my gosh, okay.
So let's really quick.
Future goals going into 26 isthere anything that you're
working on?
Speaker 2 (59:53):
on?
Yeah, there is.
I'm in the middle of writing mybook and um I I was hoping, I'm
hoping, to get it publishedthis year, but it absolutely has
to be done, um, before nextyear.
Um, I can't take it intoanother year.
So I'm in the middle of doingthat, um and the.
(01:00:14):
The book has a working titlewhich is um heal your mind, heal
your life, um, so it's reallyexciting.
It's.
It's about there's a little bitof my journey in there, but but
it's it's about helping peopleto use that resource which is
their subconscious mind to beable to overcome anything,
(01:00:36):
because once you can hypnotizeyourself, you really can achieve
and overcome, you know,whatever it is that you want.
So so the book is aboutteaching you how to do that and
in that book describing you knowhow I've done it and also some
of my clients case studies aswell.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
That is so cool.
Well, I'm wishing you the bestof luck and good vibes and
energy to get it done in 25.
I hear yes.
So I want to say thank you,jacqueline, for coming on to
keep up alive and sharing yourstory and what you're doing, and
(01:01:17):
I want our listeners to reachout to you for coming on to Keep
Hope Alive and sharing yourstory and what you're doing, and
I want our listeners to reachout to you.
You can also go towwwkeephopelivepodcastcom.
I have a leave a message thatyou can leave a voicemail for
Jacqueline if you have anyquestions, and I'll get it right
to her and everything.
But definitely, wherever youguys find your podcast, you'll
(01:01:38):
be able to find Keep Hope Alive.
If you would like to be a gueston our show, please send us an
email at keephopealivenm atgmailcom.
We have so many new episodescoming up too.
I'm so excited because they'rereally catering into what the
(01:01:58):
world's going through right now,and I think that's really what
matters.
As I'm losing my voice, I'msorry, so, but definitely come,
subscribe, check out everything,let us know what you think.
So, but other than that, I wantto check, check with Miss
Jacqueline that we coveredeverything, right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yeah, I think we did.
It's been, oh, it's just beenamazing talking to you.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate it, andit's nice to hear a little bit
about you as well.
So, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I'm full of stories.
I've become a better listenerlately.
I'm full of stories.
I've become a better listenerlately.
I'm proud of myself so.
But you guys, thank you so much, until our next show.
Love and light.
Bye-bye, guys.
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