October 21, 2024 • 29 mins
In this episode of the Keystone Reckoning Podcast, we take a hard look at how the 2024 election could unravel democracy, with Pennsylvania right at the heart of the storm. Trump and his allies have refined their chaotic tactics from 2020, and this time, they’re coming prepared. From voter purges to stalling mail-in ballot counts, Republicans are setting the stage to challenge the results before the votes are even fully counted. Their goal? To throw the process into chaos, scream “fraud,” and let misinformation do the rest.
Pennsylvania’s mail-in ballot controversies are a prime target, with Republicans blocking sensible reforms like pre-canvassing to intentionally delay results, fueling their fraud narrative. But they’re not stopping there—similar efforts are unfolding in states like Virginia and Wisconsin, with purges of voter rolls and legal challenges designed to disenfranchise voters. We also dive into how media coverage could further distort the reality on election night, especially when delayed counts shift the narrative. This episode is a call to action for Pennsylvanians: be ready to defend democracy, because November 5th is just the beginning.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
One of the fundamentally frustrating and
maddening traits of Donald Trumpis his seeming inability to
tell the truth.
So when he does tell the truth,you think we would be happy,
but in this instance, I thinkit's more like it's time to be
terrified.
Welcome to the KeystoneReckoning Podcast.
Those of us that are ready forthis election to finally be over
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on election day need to adjustour expectations Because, as
I've become increasinglyconvinced, november 5th is just
the beginning of this, not theend by any means, and every
single thing that is out thereis reinforcing that.
What I think at this point isjust an absolute fact, and it's
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so bizarre because theRepublicans are basically laying
the groundwork for it andtalking about it in such a
brazen way, kind of like inplain sight, that maybe they
think that people are too dumbto see what's going on.
And, to be honest, maybe peopleare too dumb to see what's
going on.
And, to be honest, maybe peopleare too dumb to see what's
going on.
I mean, look at where we're at.
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It's hard to look at wherewe're at in this election and
then make the argument thatwe're a nation of intelligent
people Kind of a difficultargument to make.
So what are we talking abouthere?
This has to do with the planthat is becoming increasingly
clear of how Trump is going totry to steal the election, claim
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victory however you want tocall it, regardless of the
outcome.
All the pieces are there.
And what is happening now?
As we get down to it, you'restarting to see those gears kind
of move into motion, themachine starting to churn itself
up Because, unlike in 2020,where they weren't quite ready
and didn't have all the piecesin place, they clearly have a
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much more robust option, set ofoptions in place this time.
I think there are multiple pathsto try to make this go, and I
don't know how many of them weare in a position to be able to
address through either justbeing aware of them or having
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the legal wherewithal, thestructure in the courts or
whatever to be able to stop themall.
So they're taking a strategy ofthrowing a bunch of things up
against the wall and seeing whatsticks.
So, for example, one of thebiggest stories was the Georgia
Board of Canvassers a board ofelections coming out and passing
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these insane rules, saying thatthey kind of empowered
themselves, or any county boardof elections had the ability to,
in effect, bring the countingof votes to a grinding halt,
which would then allow them tomiss their certification
deadline, which would then throweverything up in the air.
And I want to be clear this isthe ultimate goal.
Ok, all of these roads areleading to one, one path, which
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is they want to subvert thepopular vote.
They want to subvert thepopular vote, so either Congress
, which would just be the Houseof Representatives, or the state
legislatures would be empoweredto decide the electors for the
Electoral College.
That's it.
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I'm going to do another episodesoon that is truly terrifying,
about a video that was out thereof someone that's in Trump's
orbit, who was in a weird wayconnected to the shooter the
would-be shooter in Arizona thatthey stopped.
It's one of those things where,if I didn't have everything in
front of me, I would sound likea conspiracy theorist, but I'm
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not.
All roads lead to not lettingthe popular vote determine the
election, and I don't mean thenational popular vote, I mean
the statewide popular vote, andthat's being done in a variety
of ways through voterdisenfranchisement, by taking
people off the voter rolls, allthese different things, and what
they're doing is they'replanting seeds of doubt and
they're giving themselvesopportunities and things to
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point to as a precursor toclaiming the election was stolen
, that the Democrats werecheating, that it was
illegitimate.
That's how then they can.
In response to that, then theycan quote stop the steal Right.
They, they're almost at thatpoint.
They have been wronged by thegovernment and by the deep state
.
Therefore, they are now, intheir minds, entitled to do
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whatever they want to try tofight that, to try to reclaim
what is being taken from them,taken from real Americans.
So it takes a lot of differentforms, but you're seeing it.
There was something inPennsylvania where there's a
treading on Twitter, an argumentabout how Governor Shapiro made
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the comment today that it willtake days to count all the
ballots, and they're immediatelysaying oh, that's fraud, you
know.
They're tagging all the Trumplawyers and saying well, here we
go.
That's our cause for, forchallenging it.
What they're not telling youand what I think, quite honestly
, most of the people that arescreaming fraud, you know, and
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the non political operatives,what they don't realize is the
problem that with getting allthe votes counted on Election
day is by design from theRepublicans, pennsylvania,
specifically, what they'retalking about is pre-canvassing
of votes, so with all the votescoming in by mail and nationally
.
We're up to about one third ofall votes cast in America being
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cast by mail.
So you mail your ballot in andit sits at the Board of
Elections in your county andthey you know you get a
notification that's beenreceived, but then it just sits
there until election day and bylaw they are not allowed to
start to open those ballotsuntil 7 am on election day.
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So they can't start openingmail-in ballots until the polls
open on election day.
And pre-canvassing is just that, it's pre.
So what they're doing isthey're opening up the envelope,
the mail envelope, Then they'retaking they're still keeping
the security envelope, they'reverifying that that is the that
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matches the person it wassupposed to go to.
They are then are able to makethe ballots smooth out so they
can actually go through thecounting machines.
It's all the mechanics of beingable to count votes, because
that takes people and it takestime, and there was a proposed
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law that actually passed theHouse back in May.
It's a very smart piece oflegislation, very common sense,
that it would allowpre-campusing to start seven
days in advance.
So in essence, the County Boardof Elections could have the
ballots ready to go becausethey'd have seven days to get
them ready and then they couldrun them through the machine to
get their tabulation and get amuch clearer or timely result.
And that bill is sitting in thestate Senate, republican
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controlled.
And it has been made very clear, according to a report, that
Trump and Trump allies have toldthose Republicans block that
bill, do not pass it.
Same thing going on inWisconsin.
Almost the same exact situationRepublicans stopping
legislation from being passedthat would address the very
problem they are complainingabout, because they don't want
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the solution.
They want the issue Because itgives them the ability.
Ability because thatexplanation I just gave you took
like 30 seconds, 45 seconds,it's so much easier to be like.
Well, it's going to take themdays to count the votes, so
therefore it's corrupt, right?
They want the easy answer.
That's going to get whippedinto a frenzy, even though
there's a perfectly logicalexplanation.
Not that the Trump supporterswould listen to it or believe it
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.
If they did, you can literallyshow them the statute and they
still wouldn't believe it.
That's where we're at right now.
So you've got that kind ofstuff going on.
You have a situation in Virginia, another big potential swing
state, where the voter rolls,glenn Youngkin, crazy
conservative governor ofVirginia.
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They did a big purge of thevoter rolls and it got
challenged in court and thecourt said no, you can't purge,
you can't take these people offthe voter rolls.
And, of course, Trump did aninterview with the Chicago
Economic Club, which we'll talkabout again in a minute, but in
it he was asked about somethingtotally unrelated and he started
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talking about this Virginiadecision and it's terrible and
it's you know.
A lot of people are saying andI just once, I wish a reporter
would look at Trump and be likeyou always use the phrase people
, or lots of people are sayingcould you name three?
He couldn't do it.
You know, the only peoplesaying this to him are the
sycophants around him and thevoices in his head.
Anyway, so they're crying foulthat all of these people are now
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illegally, in their words,going to be able to vote in
Virginia because you know theywouldn't let them take, you know
, illegitimate voters off thevoter rolls.
However and you'll see a themedeveloping here by law in
Virginia, any adjustment orpurging, or whatever you want to
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call it, to the voter rolls hasto be more than 90 days before
an election, presumably.
So those people who had beenpurged from the voter rolls,
many of whom and the reportingis voluminous on this are taken
off incorrectly.
That way, they know about itfar enough in advance, or at
least if they go to check theregistration or apply for a
mail-in ballot wait, I'm notregistered to vote.
Okay, let me re-register.
It gives them time to correctthe state.
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Uh, making a mistake, or maybedoing it on purpose, who knows?
That would disenfranchise them,because it's not hard to
envision who they're taking offthe voter rolls right.
So that was their big thing.
But, the governor of Virginia,you'd have to figure either by
by really by malfeasance ormalpractice, one or the other.
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Either they didn't know whatthe law was and they tried to do
it anyway, or they knew andthey wanted the issue right, and
that's kind of, if you thinkabout it, that's almost scarier.
Instead of getting those votersoff the rolls, they were like,
no, maybe we want the issue,because it gives us again more
reason to cry foul and becauseif you're crying foul in one
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state, that's one thing, butwhat have we already talked
about?
Georgia, pennsylvania,wisconsin, virginia?
You think that's a coincidence?
That's just off the top of myhead.
There are more out there, andI'm sure there are more to come,
but the recurring theme here isthey are doing things, forcing
issues that require the law tobe enforced, and then using the
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outcome that they have in factengineered as a precursor or
excuse to claim that they'rebeing wrong somehow.
This is not that hard to see.
This is not hard to see at all,and I bring that up because in
the rolling stone piece theycome right out and say which I'm
, you know, those of us thathave been watching this have
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seen for a while now and it'skind of a a repeat of 2020, but
it's going to be much moredramatic, you know, or
theatrical on their part, andit's going to be well
orchestrated.
And you've already again,you've seen it Trump basically
screaming that the election hasbeen stolen from him before
anybody started counting ballots.
That's not an accident.
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He's setting the stage so thatway, he can now declare and this
is what it says, according tofour conservative attorneys I'm
reading from Rolling Stone now,four conservative attorneys and
other sources who have spoken tothe former president Trump
intends to declare as soon as onelection night that the race is
being rigged or stolen from himby pointing to slow vote counts
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of mail-in ballots in crucialbattleground states as his
evidence for supposed democraticshenanigans afoot.
Huh, sound familiar, you know?
I think you only have to goback about three minutes to get
where we were at with this.
That's the plan.
Straight away.
Three minutes to get where wewere at with this.
That's the plan, straight away.
That's the plan, and it's it'snot hard to see what they're
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going to try to do and it's asTrump in these private
conversations, has stressed.
That quote you got to call themout very early in the process,
like that night, otherwise theycan get away with it and cover
their tracks.
Now the day are Democrats, butalso elected.
You know elected electionofficials who I think we can all
agree for the most part, heldtheir ground and did their jobs
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four years ago, democrat orRepublican, and it's all to
bring about this idea of chaos.
Right, they want chaos andthat's.
Chaos is the thing that willallow them to mobilize their
supporters, who are spoiling fora fight, and they're going to
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try to wear down Democratsthrough a war of attrition.
We saw it in 2000 with Bush vGore, karl Rove going down to
Florida sending people in onbuses to put pressure.
This is going to be that timesa million.
Now, think about it.
The guy that engineered thatisn't supporting Trump, right?
That's how far we've gone fromthat.
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So this is what we need to beready for.
This is all leading up to not acall to action.
It's leading to a call to war.
Their words, not ours.
For example, we've been gettingRepublican mailers for some
reason, and I'm holding oneright now.
I got today and on the front ofit is literally three words
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Fight, fight, fight is literallythree words fight, fight, fight
.
And in the background is apicture of Trump's arm raised
during the shooting in Butler.
Think about that for a minute.
That's the message to votersfight, fight, fight.
Got a message from theDemocratic Party today.
It says your vote matters inthis election.
See the disparity here.
We are not playing the samegame in this election.
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See the disparity here.
We are not playing the samegame.
Now, the other piece of this hasto do with the polls, and it
matters because, for a lot ofreasons, I'm not believing these
polls.
This year especially, I've donepolling.
I know how to read polling.
It's first of all.
Anybody that's talking about anational poll can just get out
of my face.
Because we don't have anational election.
They're pointless, they'reworthless.
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Statewide polls matters becausewe don't have one presidential
election.
We have 50 presidentialelections.
That's the way this country isbuilt, right, wrong or
indifferent, that's the way it'sbuilt.
So, ok, you're going to give mestatewide polling, that's fine.
But all of these polls are,like you know, within a
percentage or a half a percentor whatever.
They're pointless, they're allwithin the margin of error.
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I've gotten numerous calls forpolls.
I always take them.
You know you get a couple meand a couple of people like me
give a different answer.
There's your percentage pointbecause it's all weighted.
Even if they do it right, it'sa weighted response If you're
within the margin.
Now I'm much more inclined tobelieve that Bob Casey is
beating living daylights out ofDavid McCormick, because the
disparity there takes yououtside the margin of error.
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And, generally speaking, if apoll is done right and it's
modeled right and all the things, it can be a viable barometer
of support.
I mean, I've had electionswhere I was the candidate.
I saw internal polling and itplayed out almost to the exact
percentage.
I think that's a lot moredifficult in a national race or
when you're dealing with such alarge group of people and I also
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think that in this electionwe've talked about this before
people are not inclined to saywho they're voting for because
they're afraid to say it, eitherbecause they don't want to get
in an argument, or they're justkind of afraid to say out loud
because, like again the mailer Igot today fight, fight, fight.
So we're dealing with andthat's again, that's
intimidation.
They're doing that on purpose.
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That's a feature, not a bug, sothey don't want to necessarily
tell a pollster who they'resupporting.
So for all those reasons, I'minclined to not want to buy into
polls, the other reason beingthat in this now we're going to
get into the more nefarious partof it, because there are
legitimate pollsters out thereand that's a staple of American
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politics.
I get it, that's fine, and theycan't be informative, but the
thing that blows me away is thefact that what we're seeing now.
So someone decided at somepoint that one poll could be
better than the other.
It might not be accurate.
So they started to do thisaverage of polling, this
aggregate, right.
So the RealClearPolitics doesit.
It's like this rolling theytake all the polls and they
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combine them together and theidea being that you get a more
accurate result because you'veput more polls together and they
should be strongerstatistically.
Not a bad theory.
However, what it allows for isto and Republicans have done a
good job of this they floodedthe field with far right-leaning
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polls.
Rasmussen poll is kind of thegold standard.
I guess the red standard of youknow a Rasmussen poll is just.
You don't have to laugh at itcoming out of the gate, because
it's always going to favor theRepublicans.
It's always skewed to theRepublicans.
There are other polling firmsout there.
They are flooding the fieldwith garbage polling in an
effort to bring that percentagedown.
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So here's the narrative onelection night, trump and
everybody else stands up andsays we were neck and neck in
the polls, we were winning someof the polls.
Stands up and says we were neckand neck in the polls, we were
winning some of the polls wewere winning on election night
Because, if you remember,mail-in ballots come in in big
chunks later, because they haveto be counted, because you can't
start counting them until sevenin the morning.
So what tends to happen is youget election night voting or
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election day voting comes infirst and then there's a big
dump of mail-in ballots Again.
It's how the system's supposedto work.
If it didn't happen that way,something would be wrong.
But to someone that wants tobelieve there's something
nefarious at foot, that there'sskullduggery taking place, trump
is winning by big percentagesand because a lot of times
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people will see a percentage ofthe you know of the votes on TV
or whatever, but they don'trealize how much of the
electorate is in right.
To anybody that knows thisstuff, it's like well, what
counties were it right?
Like I don't care what thepercentage is, nothing else
mattered because they were goingto do what they were going to
do.
So you've got this scenario.
Where you're, you know Trump isgoing to say oh, you were
watching all night, especiallybecause, remember, the majority
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of Election Day voters are theRepublicans.
The majority of vote by mailfolks are Democrats, right.
So here we go, you've got.
Trump is up big on when thepolls close, because people
again think that, oh, the minutethe polls close, the election's
over.
Trump's up big when the pollsclose, he's winning, he's
winning, he's winning.
And all of a sudden, boom, he'slosing because Philadelphia
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came in Right, or it's neck andneck, but there are more votes
that are going to come in afterthe polls close, even though
those were legally cast ballotsin a lot of mean.
Usually those were actuallyballots that were cast before
polling places open, but theycouldn't be counted until late
because the Republicans won'tchange the law.
So you've got the numbers tosomeone that doesn't know any
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better.
Support this narrative.
It allowed the polling being soclose, allows Trump to come out
and say we were winning in thepolls.
We were right there.
It was so close.
We were neck and neck theentire way through, and now
Kamala Harris is up by threepoints and votes came in late.
Yada, yada, yada stormed thestate capitol and that's one of
the other things we're going totalk about later is this you
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know that's what they're talkingabout.
Just to be clear, this issetting up for not necessarily a
January 6th.
It's setting up a bunch ofJanuary 6th in state capitals,
in battleground states all overthe country.
That's where this will end up.
You know state legislators are,you know they're very
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interested in staying in office.
They're not interested innecessarily stepping up and
doing what's right politically,especially when it's their own
party.
And again, some of the thingsI've heard not heard secondhand.
I've watched the speeches wherethey're basically like we're
going to attack the Republicansand make sure they do right by
us.
We need to get them on boardand then we'll turn to the
Democrats.
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He's well thought out.
This is a plan.
This isn't.
This isn't going to anythingthat happens here.
There's a phrase that saysanything that happened in
politics is never by accident.
This is the epitome of that.
None of this is an accident,none of it.
So when it all starts to happen, don't let anybody say the
signs weren't there becausethat's what they're going to do.
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Because I truly believe, givenanecdotal things I've heard on
the ground, things I've seen,online conversations I've
personally had I think that inthese tight battleground states
and I'll just use PA as anexample I think Kamala Harris
wins Pennsylvania, not as alandslide, but I think she wins
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it comfortably.
I think she wins it to a pointwhere it would be very difficult
to legitimately challenge theresult.
I don't think she'll win it byenough that they're not going to
be able to.
They're not going to do it, butI think that in any other year,
in any other election, it wouldbe.
They would call it for, theywould call Pennsylvania for
Kamala Harris, and that would beit and, by the way, this cannot
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be overlooked when the the oneof the big questions is and I
think this has to do withcriticism of the mainstream
media about how they've kind ofgiven Trump a million passes,
and that's a discussion foranother day but when will they
call these States If we go laterinto the night and there is
clear evidence that KamalaHarris wins Pennsylvania, but
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nobody wants to call it?
Like nobody outside, like MSNBC,right?
Steve Kornacki is a man on anisland calling it in his khakis,
but everybody else is likeafraid.
That will only reinforce theuncertainty and open up the door
to claims that this wasillegitimate.
You know, one of the mostdefining things if you remember
back to election 2020, was whenFox called Arizona.
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When Fox News called Arizonafor Joe Biden, that was a body
blow to Donald Trump because ittold ironically and how weird is
this?
That like?
We need Fox News to be at leasta semblance of a news
organization, because they maybe the only ones.
If they were able to call thiselection for Kamala Harris
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assuming she wins, if theycalled it for her that might be
the one thing that would makeenough Republicans stop and be
like OK, that, because that'sthe news I listen to or watch
and that's who I trust.
And if they're telling meDonald Trump lost, I guess he
lost, maybe not all of them,certainly not all of them, but
maybe enough of them.
That would kind of come, youknow, the mob would be thinner,
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but that's definitely more thanever.
And that tells you where we'reat.
The fact that who's going to beafraid to actually say what
happened.
And it goes to also, and and itgoes to also, if you've seen
every interview with everyrepublican official.
They are asked will, if everystate certifies the results,
will you accept the results ofthe election?
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And like no federally elected,no federally elected republican
will say yes, like what the hell?
But that's where we're at.
So this is all being verycarefully orchestrated, kind of
in plain sight.
You know they're getting readyto put on a big anti-democracy
play and they're doing therehearsals and they're building
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the sets right in front of us.
My worry and this should beyour worry, it should be all of
our worries what is the firewallhere?
Right?
How are we going to deal withthis?
Because we and you know I'vebeen talking to some election
protection people and you knowwe've got a plan.
We've got a plan.
I don't know what that is.
You know some of it is a prettygood idea, some I don't, and I
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get that maybe it's not thegreatest idea to be out there
telling them how you're going to.
You know what, objectively, shehas won the election.
If that is the case, you needto use their playbook and you
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cannot concede.
We cannot concede onemillimeter for one millisecond,
because the second you do that,they, you know weakness is a.
You know they will smell thatweakness and they will try to
roll all over the country.
This is definitely.
This is not a time forconciliation.
This will not be a time forlet's talk it out.
This will not be a time for youknow, both sides have a valid
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point.
If the numbers are on our side,that's it, and you accept
nothing less, because you knowotherwise, why even have
elections anymore?
If it could just be a contestof who could be the loudest,
well, if elections were acontest of who could be the
loudest, I could be running forpresident right now.
If you asked anybody in myhouse, everybody that knows me.
But that's for another day.
So this is coming, and not onlyis the election day and the
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election night stuff going to bean issue.
It's everything that comesafter it and the threats that
are being made to set it up, andwe'll get into those soon.
Um, you know, with trumpthreatening to use the military,
and you know I'd explain,because we were having a
conversation in the kitchentoday.
I'd explain to my nine-year-oldabout the Alien and Sedition
Acts of 1798.
That's where we're at right now.
So, yeah, we're alldoom-scrolling, right and we're
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all terrified.
And the difference to me is andI'll end on this note this is
why it's different.
When people start talking aboutkind of extreme scenarios and,
you know, worrying about thesystem falling down or falling
apart, or pointing out thestress points in the system,
it's usually the people that arepolitically astute, experienced
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, understand the law, understandour political system.
They're the ones that talk theother people down.
Right, they're the ones arelike okay, I get that
theoretically, but this is what,the way it really works, and
this is what will happen andit's okay, it's gonna be okay.
This year it's the inverse.
This year, it's the people thatare politically astute and
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aware and are, you know, either,through whatever means they,
they are paying close attentionto this for whatever reason, be
it their job, be it their hobby,be it that they want to be an
informed citizen, they're theones who are sounding the alarms
.
That's an entirely differentthing, because when the people
that know better are the onessaying it is time to wake up and
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be have your head on a swivelhere, people, because this is
totally different than anythingwe've seen in our lifetimes.
And the people that are justout there that aren't
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I don't know how anybody atthis point could turn away from
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hearing it.
You see where I'm going withthis.
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One of the fundamentally frustrating and
maddening traits of Donald Trumpis his seeming inability to
tell the truth.
So when he does tell the truth,you think we would be happy,
but in this instance, I thinkit's more like it's time to be
terrified.
Welcome to the KeystoneReckoning Podcast.
Those of us that are ready forthis election to finally be over
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on election day need to adjustour expectations Because, as
I've become increasinglyconvinced, november 5th is just
the beginning of this, not theend by any means, and every
single thing that is out thereis reinforcing that.
What I think at this point isjust an absolute fact, and it's
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so bizarre because theRepublicans are basically laying
the groundwork for it andtalking about it in such a
brazen way, kind of like inplain sight, that maybe they
think that people are too dumbto see what's going on.
And, to be honest, maybe peopleare too dumb to see what's
going on.
And, to be honest, maybe peopleare too dumb to see what's
going on.
I mean, look at where we're at.
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It's hard to look at wherewe're at in this election and
then make the argument thatwe're a nation of intelligent
people Kind of a difficultargument to make.
So what are we talking abouthere?
This has to do with the planthat is becoming increasingly
clear of how Trump is going totry to steal the election, claim
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victory however you want tocall it, regardless of the
outcome.
All the pieces are there.
And what is happening now?
As we get down to it, you'restarting to see those gears kind
of move into motion, themachine starting to churn itself
up Because, unlike in 2020,where they weren't quite ready
and didn't have all the piecesin place, they clearly have a
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much more robust option, set ofoptions in place this time.
I think there are multiple pathsto try to make this go, and I
don't know how many of them weare in a position to be able to
address through either justbeing aware of them or having
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the legal wherewithal, thestructure in the courts or
whatever to be able to stop themall.
So they're taking a strategy ofthrowing a bunch of things up
against the wall and seeing whatsticks.
So, for example, one of thebiggest stories was the Georgia
Board of Canvassers a board ofelections coming out and passing
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these insane rules, saying thatthey kind of empowered
themselves, or any county boardof elections had the ability to,
in effect, bring the countingof votes to a grinding halt,
which would then allow them tomiss their certification
deadline, which would then throweverything up in the air.
And I want to be clear this isthe ultimate goal.
Ok, all of these roads areleading to one, one path, which
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is they want to subvert thepopular vote.
They want to subvert thepopular vote, so either Congress
, which would just be the Houseof Representatives, or the state
legislatures would be empoweredto decide the electors for the
Electoral College.
That's it.
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I'm going to do another episodesoon that is truly terrifying,
about a video that was out thereof someone that's in Trump's
orbit, who was in a weird wayconnected to the shooter the
would-be shooter in Arizona thatthey stopped.
It's one of those things where,if I didn't have everything in
front of me, I would sound likea conspiracy theorist, but I'm
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not.
All roads lead to not lettingthe popular vote determine the
election, and I don't mean thenational popular vote, I mean
the statewide popular vote, andthat's being done in a variety
of ways through voterdisenfranchisement, by taking
people off the voter rolls, allthese different things, and what
they're doing is they'replanting seeds of doubt and
they're giving themselvesopportunities and things to
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point to as a precursor toclaiming the election was stolen
, that the Democrats werecheating, that it was
illegitimate.
That's how then they can.
In response to that, then theycan quote stop the steal Right.
They, they're almost at thatpoint.
They have been wronged by thegovernment and by the deep state
.
Therefore, they are now, intheir minds, entitled to do
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whatever they want to try tofight that, to try to reclaim
what is being taken from them,taken from real Americans.
So it takes a lot of differentforms, but you're seeing it.
There was something inPennsylvania where there's a
treading on Twitter, an argumentabout how Governor Shapiro made
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the comment today that it willtake days to count all the
ballots, and they're immediatelysaying oh, that's fraud, you
know.
They're tagging all the Trumplawyers and saying well, here we
go.
That's our cause for, forchallenging it.
What they're not telling youand what I think, quite honestly
, most of the people that arescreaming fraud, you know, and
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the non political operatives,what they don't realize is the
problem that with getting allthe votes counted on Election
day is by design from theRepublicans, pennsylvania,
specifically, what they'retalking about is pre-canvassing
of votes, so with all the votescoming in by mail and nationally
.
We're up to about one third ofall votes cast in America being
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cast by mail.
So you mail your ballot in andit sits at the Board of
Elections in your county andthey you know you get a
notification that's beenreceived, but then it just sits
there until election day and bylaw they are not allowed to
start to open those ballotsuntil 7 am on election day.
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So they can't start openingmail-in ballots until the polls
open on election day.
And pre-canvassing is just that, it's pre.
So what they're doing isthey're opening up the envelope,
the mail envelope, Then they'retaking they're still keeping
the security envelope, they'reverifying that that is the that
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matches the person it wassupposed to go to.
They are then are able to makethe ballots smooth out so they
can actually go through thecounting machines.
It's all the mechanics of beingable to count votes, because
that takes people and it takestime, and there was a proposed
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law that actually passed theHouse back in May.
It's a very smart piece oflegislation, very common sense,
that it would allowpre-campusing to start seven
days in advance.
So in essence, the County Boardof Elections could have the
ballots ready to go becausethey'd have seven days to get
them ready and then they couldrun them through the machine to
get their tabulation and get amuch clearer or timely result.
And that bill is sitting in thestate Senate, republican
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controlled.
And it has been made very clear, according to a report, that
Trump and Trump allies have toldthose Republicans block that
bill, do not pass it.
Same thing going on inWisconsin.
Almost the same exact situationRepublicans stopping
legislation from being passedthat would address the very
problem they are complainingabout, because they don't want
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the solution.
They want the issue Because itgives them the ability.
Ability because thatexplanation I just gave you took
like 30 seconds, 45 seconds,it's so much easier to be like.
Well, it's going to take themdays to count the votes, so
therefore it's corrupt, right?
They want the easy answer.
That's going to get whippedinto a frenzy, even though
there's a perfectly logicalexplanation.
Not that the Trump supporterswould listen to it or believe it
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.
If they did, you can literallyshow them the statute and they
still wouldn't believe it.
That's where we're at right now.
So you've got that kind ofstuff going on.
You have a situation in Virginia, another big potential swing
state, where the voter rolls,glenn Youngkin, crazy
conservative governor ofVirginia.
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They did a big purge of thevoter rolls and it got
challenged in court and thecourt said no, you can't purge,
you can't take these people offthe voter rolls.
And, of course, Trump did aninterview with the Chicago
Economic Club, which we'll talkabout again in a minute, but in
it he was asked about somethingtotally unrelated and he started
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talking about this Virginiadecision and it's terrible and
it's you know.
A lot of people are saying andI just once, I wish a reporter
would look at Trump and be likeyou always use the phrase people
, or lots of people are sayingcould you name three?
He couldn't do it.
You know, the only peoplesaying this to him are the
sycophants around him and thevoices in his head.
Anyway, so they're crying foulthat all of these people are now
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illegally, in their words,going to be able to vote in
Virginia because you know theywouldn't let them take, you know
, illegitimate voters off thevoter rolls.
However and you'll see a themedeveloping here by law in
Virginia, any adjustment orpurging, or whatever you want to
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call it, to the voter rolls hasto be more than 90 days before
an election, presumably.
So those people who had beenpurged from the voter rolls,
many of whom and the reportingis voluminous on this are taken
off incorrectly.
That way, they know about itfar enough in advance, or at
least if they go to check theregistration or apply for a
mail-in ballot wait, I'm notregistered to vote.
Okay, let me re-register.
It gives them time to correctthe state.
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Uh, making a mistake, or maybedoing it on purpose, who knows?
That would disenfranchise them,because it's not hard to
envision who they're taking offthe voter rolls right.
So that was their big thing.
But, the governor of Virginia,you'd have to figure either by
by really by malfeasance ormalpractice, one or the other.
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Either they didn't know whatthe law was and they tried to do
it anyway, or they knew andthey wanted the issue right, and
that's kind of, if you thinkabout it, that's almost scarier.
Instead of getting those votersoff the rolls, they were like,
no, maybe we want the issue,because it gives us again more
reason to cry foul and becauseif you're crying foul in one
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state, that's one thing, butwhat have we already talked
about?
Georgia, pennsylvania,wisconsin, virginia?
You think that's a coincidence?
That's just off the top of myhead.
There are more out there, andI'm sure there are more to come,
but the recurring theme here isthey are doing things, forcing
issues that require the law tobe enforced, and then using the
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outcome that they have in factengineered as a precursor or
excuse to claim that they'rebeing wrong somehow.
This is not that hard to see.
This is not hard to see at all,and I bring that up because in
the rolling stone piece theycome right out and say which I'm
, you know, those of us thathave been watching this have
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seen for a while now and it'skind of a a repeat of 2020, but
it's going to be much moredramatic, you know, or
theatrical on their part, andit's going to be well
orchestrated.
And you've already again,you've seen it Trump basically
screaming that the election hasbeen stolen from him before
anybody started counting ballots.
That's not an accident.
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He's setting the stage so thatway, he can now declare and this
is what it says, according tofour conservative attorneys I'm
reading from Rolling Stone now,four conservative attorneys and
other sources who have spoken tothe former president Trump
intends to declare as soon as onelection night that the race is
being rigged or stolen from himby pointing to slow vote counts
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of mail-in ballots in crucialbattleground states as his
evidence for supposed democraticshenanigans afoot.
Huh, sound familiar, you know?
I think you only have to goback about three minutes to get
where we were at with this.
That's the plan.
Straight away.
Three minutes to get where wewere at with this.
That's the plan, straight away.
That's the plan, and it's it'snot hard to see what they're
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going to try to do and it's asTrump in these private
conversations, has stressed.
That quote you got to call themout very early in the process,
like that night, otherwise theycan get away with it and cover
their tracks.
Now the day are Democrats, butalso elected.
You know elected electionofficials who I think we can all
agree for the most part, heldtheir ground and did their jobs
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four years ago, democrat orRepublican, and it's all to
bring about this idea of chaos.
Right, they want chaos andthat's.
Chaos is the thing that willallow them to mobilize their
supporters, who are spoiling fora fight, and they're going to
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try to wear down Democratsthrough a war of attrition.
We saw it in 2000 with Bush vGore, karl Rove going down to
Florida sending people in onbuses to put pressure.
This is going to be that timesa million.
Now, think about it.
The guy that engineered thatisn't supporting Trump, right?
That's how far we've gone fromthat.
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So this is what we need to beready for.
This is all leading up to not acall to action.
It's leading to a call to war.
Their words, not ours.
For example, we've been gettingRepublican mailers for some
reason, and I'm holding oneright now.
I got today and on the front ofit is literally three words
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Fight, fight, fight is literallythree words fight, fight, fight
.
And in the background is apicture of Trump's arm raised
during the shooting in Butler.
Think about that for a minute.
That's the message to votersfight, fight, fight.
Got a message from theDemocratic Party today.
It says your vote matters inthis election.
See the disparity here.
We are not playing the samegame in this election.
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See the disparity here.
We are not playing the samegame.
Now, the other piece of this hasto do with the polls, and it
matters because, for a lot ofreasons, I'm not believing these
polls.
This year especially, I've donepolling.
I know how to read polling.
It's first of all.
Anybody that's talking about anational poll can just get out
of my face.
Because we don't have anational election.
They're pointless, they'reworthless.
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Statewide polls matters becausewe don't have one presidential
election.
We have 50 presidentialelections.
That's the way this country isbuilt, right, wrong or
indifferent, that's the way it'sbuilt.
So, ok, you're going to give mestatewide polling, that's fine.
But all of these polls are,like you know, within a
percentage or a half a percentor whatever.
They're pointless, they're allwithin the margin of error.
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I've gotten numerous calls forpolls.
I always take them.
You know you get a couple meand a couple of people like me
give a different answer.
There's your percentage pointbecause it's all weighted.
Even if they do it right, it'sa weighted response If you're
within the margin.
Now I'm much more inclined tobelieve that Bob Casey is
beating living daylights out ofDavid McCormick, because the
disparity there takes yououtside the margin of error.
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And, generally speaking, if apoll is done right and it's
modeled right and all the things, it can be a viable barometer
of support.
I mean, I've had electionswhere I was the candidate.
I saw internal polling and itplayed out almost to the exact
percentage.
I think that's a lot moredifficult in a national race or
when you're dealing with such alarge group of people and I also
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think that in this electionwe've talked about this before
people are not inclined to saywho they're voting for because
they're afraid to say it, eitherbecause they don't want to get
in an argument, or they're justkind of afraid to say out loud
because, like again the mailer Igot today fight, fight, fight.
So we're dealing with andthat's again, that's
intimidation.
They're doing that on purpose.
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That's a feature, not a bug, sothey don't want to necessarily
tell a pollster who they'resupporting.
So for all those reasons, I'minclined to not want to buy into
polls, the other reason beingthat in this now we're going to
get into the more nefarious partof it, because there are
legitimate pollsters out thereand that's a staple of American
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politics.
I get it, that's fine, and theycan't be informative, but the
thing that blows me away is thefact that what we're seeing now.
So someone decided at somepoint that one poll could be
better than the other.
It might not be accurate.
So they started to do thisaverage of polling, this
aggregate, right.
So the RealClearPolitics doesit.
It's like this rolling theytake all the polls and they
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combine them together and theidea being that you get a more
accurate result because you'veput more polls together and they
should be strongerstatistically.
Not a bad theory.
However, what it allows for isto and Republicans have done a
good job of this they floodedthe field with far right-leaning
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polls.
Rasmussen poll is kind of thegold standard.
I guess the red standard of youknow a Rasmussen poll is just.
You don't have to laugh at itcoming out of the gate, because
it's always going to favor theRepublicans.
It's always skewed to theRepublicans.
There are other polling firmsout there.
They are flooding the fieldwith garbage polling in an
effort to bring that percentagedown.
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So here's the narrative onelection night, trump and
everybody else stands up andsays we were neck and neck in
the polls, we were winning someof the polls.
Stands up and says we were neckand neck in the polls, we were
winning some of the polls wewere winning on election night
Because, if you remember,mail-in ballots come in in big
chunks later, because they haveto be counted, because you can't
start counting them until sevenin the morning.
So what tends to happen is youget election night voting or
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election day voting comes infirst and then there's a big
dump of mail-in ballots Again.
It's how the system's supposedto work.
If it didn't happen that way,something would be wrong.
But to someone that wants tobelieve there's something
nefarious at foot, that there'sskullduggery taking place, trump
is winning by big percentagesand because a lot of times
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people will see a percentage ofthe you know of the votes on TV
or whatever, but they don'trealize how much of the
electorate is in right.
To anybody that knows thisstuff, it's like well, what
counties were it right?
Like I don't care what thepercentage is, nothing else
mattered because they were goingto do what they were going to
do.
So you've got this scenario.
Where you're, you know Trump isgoing to say oh, you were
watching all night, especiallybecause, remember, the majority
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of Election Day voters are theRepublicans.
The majority of vote by mailfolks are Democrats, right.
So here we go, you've got.
Trump is up big on when thepolls close, because people
again think that, oh, the minutethe polls close, the election's
over.
Trump's up big when the pollsclose, he's winning, he's
winning, he's winning.
And all of a sudden, boom, he'slosing because Philadelphia
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came in Right, or it's neck andneck, but there are more votes
that are going to come in afterthe polls close, even though
those were legally cast ballotsin a lot of mean.
Usually those were actuallyballots that were cast before
polling places open, but theycouldn't be counted until late
because the Republicans won'tchange the law.
So you've got the numbers tosomeone that doesn't know any
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better.
Support this narrative.
It allowed the polling being soclose, allows Trump to come out
and say we were winning in thepolls.
We were right there.
It was so close.
We were neck and neck theentire way through, and now
Kamala Harris is up by threepoints and votes came in late.
Yada, yada, yada stormed thestate capitol and that's one of
the other things we're going totalk about later is this you
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know that's what they're talkingabout.
Just to be clear, this issetting up for not necessarily a
January 6th.
It's setting up a bunch ofJanuary 6th in state capitals,
in battleground states all overthe country.
That's where this will end up.
You know state legislators are,you know they're very
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interested in staying in office.
They're not interested innecessarily stepping up and
doing what's right politically,especially when it's their own
party.
And again, some of the thingsI've heard not heard secondhand.
I've watched the speeches wherethey're basically like we're
going to attack the Republicansand make sure they do right by
us.
We need to get them on boardand then we'll turn to the
Democrats.
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He's well thought out.
This is a plan.
This isn't.
This isn't going to anythingthat happens here.
There's a phrase that saysanything that happened in
politics is never by accident.
This is the epitome of that.
None of this is an accident,none of it.
So when it all starts to happen, don't let anybody say the
signs weren't there becausethat's what they're going to do.
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Because I truly believe, givenanecdotal things I've heard on
the ground, things I've seen,online conversations I've
personally had I think that inthese tight battleground states
and I'll just use PA as anexample I think Kamala Harris
wins Pennsylvania, not as alandslide, but I think she wins
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it comfortably.
I think she wins it to a pointwhere it would be very difficult
to legitimately challenge theresult.
I don't think she'll win it byenough that they're not going to
be able to.
They're not going to do it, butI think that in any other year,
in any other election, it wouldbe.
They would call it for, theywould call Pennsylvania for
Kamala Harris, and that would beit and, by the way, this cannot
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be overlooked when the the oneof the big questions is and I
think this has to do withcriticism of the mainstream
media about how they've kind ofgiven Trump a million passes,
and that's a discussion foranother day but when will they
call these States If we go laterinto the night and there is
clear evidence that KamalaHarris wins Pennsylvania, but
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nobody wants to call it?
Like nobody outside, like MSNBC,right?
Steve Kornacki is a man on anisland calling it in his khakis,
but everybody else is likeafraid.
That will only reinforce theuncertainty and open up the door
to claims that this wasillegitimate.
You know, one of the mostdefining things if you remember
back to election 2020, was whenFox called Arizona.
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When Fox News called Arizonafor Joe Biden, that was a body
blow to Donald Trump because ittold ironically and how weird is
this?
That like?
We need Fox News to be at leasta semblance of a news
organization, because they maybe the only ones.
If they were able to call thiselection for Kamala Harris
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assuming she wins, if theycalled it for her that might be
the one thing that would makeenough Republicans stop and be
like OK, that, because that'sthe news I listen to or watch
and that's who I trust.
And if they're telling meDonald Trump lost, I guess he
lost, maybe not all of them,certainly not all of them, but
maybe enough of them.
That would kind of come, youknow, the mob would be thinner,
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but that's definitely more thanever.
And that tells you where we'reat.
The fact that who's going to beafraid to actually say what
happened.
And it goes to also, and and itgoes to also, if you've seen
every interview with everyrepublican official.
They are asked will, if everystate certifies the results,
will you accept the results ofthe election?
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And like no federally elected,no federally elected republican
will say yes, like what the hell?
But that's where we're at.
So this is all being verycarefully orchestrated, kind of
in plain sight.
You know they're getting readyto put on a big anti-democracy
play and they're doing therehearsals and they're building
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the sets right in front of us.
My worry and this should beyour worry, it should be all of
our worries what is the firewallhere?
Right?
How are we going to deal withthis?
Because we and you know I'vebeen talking to some election
protection people and you knowwe've got a plan.
We've got a plan.
I don't know what that is.
You know some of it is a prettygood idea, some I don't, and I
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get that maybe it's not thegreatest idea to be out there
telling them how you're going to.
You know what, objectively, shehas won the election.
If that is the case, you needto use their playbook and you
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cannot concede.
We cannot concede onemillimeter for one millisecond,
because the second you do that,they, you know weakness is a.
You know they will smell thatweakness and they will try to
roll all over the country.
This is definitely.
This is not a time forconciliation.
This will not be a time forlet's talk it out.
This will not be a time for youknow, both sides have a valid
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point.
If the numbers are on our side,that's it, and you accept
nothing less, because you knowotherwise, why even have
elections anymore?
If it could just be a contestof who could be the loudest,
well, if elections were acontest of who could be the
loudest, I could be running forpresident right now.
If you asked anybody in myhouse, everybody that knows me.
But that's for another day.
So this is coming, and not onlyis the election day and the
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election night stuff going to bean issue.
It's everything that comesafter it and the threats that
are being made to set it up, andwe'll get into those soon.
Um, you know, with trumpthreatening to use the military,
and you know I'd explain,because we were having a
conversation in the kitchentoday.
I'd explain to my nine-year-oldabout the Alien and Sedition
Acts of 1798.
That's where we're at right now.
So, yeah, we're alldoom-scrolling, right and we're
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all terrified.
And the difference to me is andI'll end on this note this is
why it's different.
When people start talking aboutkind of extreme scenarios and,
you know, worrying about thesystem falling down or falling
apart, or pointing out thestress points in the system,
it's usually the people that arepolitically astute, experienced
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, understand the law, understandour political system.
They're the ones that talk theother people down.
Right, they're the ones arelike okay, I get that
theoretically, but this is what,the way it really works, and
this is what will happen andit's okay, it's gonna be okay.
This year it's the inverse.
This year, it's the people thatare politically astute and
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aware and are, you know, either,through whatever means they,
they are paying close attentionto this for whatever reason, be
it their job, be it their hobby,be it that they want to be an
informed citizen, they're theones who are sounding the alarms
.
That's an entirely differentthing, because when the people
that know better are the onessaying it is time to wake up and
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be have your head on a swivelhere, people, because this is
totally different than anythingwe've seen in our lifetimes.
And the people that are justout there that aren't
politically aware, that wouldjust as soon not deal with this,
and God bless them.
I don't know how anybody atthis point could turn away from
this, but okay, that's again adiscussion for another day.
But when they're the onessaying, oh, you're crazy, you
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know what you're talking aboutand they're coming from a place
of a lack of knowledge to peoplewith a higher degree of
knowledge, that's terrifying,because not only does that mean
people are sounding the alarm,but it means that people aren't
hearing it.
You see where I'm going withthis.
All of that to say, as I saidat the beginning, as much as we
want this all to be over, beready, because November 5th is
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not the end of this election, inmany ways it is the beginning.
Thank you for listening toKeystone Reckoning Podcast.
I have a really cool I thinkit's going to be a two-parter
because I'm going to chop it upa guest interview that'll be
coming out next.
You're not going to want tomiss it.
If you like what we're talkingabout and you want to support it
, especially now because we wantto get money out in the field
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