July 31, 2024 • 25 mins
Have you ever wondered what makes Savannah, Georgia, a haven for both food lovers and history buffs? This week, we're serving up a delicious slice of southern charm as we take you on our unforgettable journey through the historic streets of Savannah. From savoring the unbeatable fried chicken at Mrs. Wilkes' Boarding House to discovering the hidden lodging gem tucked within, our culinary adventure sets the stage for all the local flavors we encountered. Cruise with us through the ethereal beauty of Bonaventure Cemetery, where ancient gravestones and majestic oak trees tell their own stories from the past.
But our exploration doesn't stop there. Join us as we recount our spine-tingling ghost tour, capturing the quirks of spirits on film and uncovering the chilling tales behind mysterious windows. We'll also reflect on the profound echoes of the Civil War that still resonate in Savannah and Franklin, Tennessee, offering a unique perspective on these historically significant locations. As we wrap up, we'll share our favorite coffee picks, highlighting the simple joys of a well-made cup amidst such rich historical backdrops. This episode promises a captivating blend of history, hauntings, and heartwarming moments, perfect for anyone who cherishes the enchanting charm of the South.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Thank you for listening to the Kings of the
Road podcast.
It's a good day to be alive,good day to chill and go to
Savannah Georgia back in time.
Hopefully you're doing welltoday.
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(00:40):
here, andrew Gare there, and weare going on a journey.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So Lazy Days, motorhomes, georgia, savannah,
sweet tea, fried chicken Goodthings good days we always end
up doing this where we're likewe're going to talk about the
road trip and then you go andsay something like fried chicken
and I'm like well now all Iwant is fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It's partly a food podcast too, because we've done
a lot of food talk, which isokay with me.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know what, though , like we need food or we die.
So it's just a part of life.
I mean, we don't talk a lotabout breathing, which is
something that is also neededfor life.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Or sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
No, those topics haven't come up as much, but the
food topic has come up.
In fact, when do we go to agreat lunch?
Is that today?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, I think that might be today it has to be
today.
I was just looking throughphotos the other day and I saw a
picture of this lunch.
Yes, I don't know if we talkabout it today or not.
We'll find out.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, I hope we do.
Yeah, I hope we do, becausethat's a thing that I tell
people.
When they say, bro Savannah,I'm like, ooh, I have a
suggestion for you, I got.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
A place for you, I got a place for you Is it still
there, last for you.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is it still there?
Last people, I went.
Well, your mom was thererecently.
Did she say oh, I don't know ifshe went there Sad, but she
didn't.
Oh, man, we got to Sad for her.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't know if I want to look it up, because,
okay, I'm going to look it up.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, I'll bet you it's still there.
It's one of those things thatwill probably outlive everything
Nuclear war zombie apocalypsethey'll still be serving fried
chicken.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know what Google Googled?
I barely typed in the name andGoogle was like oh yeah, it's
here, it's here.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh, it's still there.
Okay, good, leave that open,because I hope today we talked
about it, because I'm curiousabout, like the hours of
operation and stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So oh my gosh, I'm looking at about anything else,
oh dude.
Oh my gosh, did you know youcould stay there?
It's like a hotel too.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
That makes sense because of the name, but I
didn't even think about that.
Right, like the name isBoarding House, right?
Well, this is, or is that not,technically, the name.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, it's the Wilkes House, and so I looked up
dining room.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But yeah, I guess there's.
I always think of it as MrsWilkes boarding house.
Yeah, but I thought that wasmaybe like an old thing.
It was Like, oh, it used to bea boarding house and now we just
do the lunch, gosh, it's lovely.
Better than you remember.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, I'm looking at where you stay and it's just
like this very classic, I don'tknow very regal southern.
Oh, it's like an apartment,like moldings and, oh man, stone
fireplace, oh, man, that's sogreat what I you know what, when
I'm an old lady, this isdefinitely the type of place
(03:40):
that I would want to stay in yes, well, you would be a great old
lady.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, could happen.
You never know.
Yeah, could happen right now.
We'll see.
That's weird.
Yeah, that would be weird, buthit us.
Where are we?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
at.
Here we are.
Well, we're in Savannah still,why leave when you're having
such a great time?
Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So today is day 54.
It's Saturday, november 20th inSavannah, georgia.
Today was a free day, a quote,day off.
(04:14):
I know that's laughable, butreally that's what it was like,
sort of we thought we would takeadvantage of the day and see
the sights.
First, we drove to Well, thisis another place where I just
left it blank, thinking I'd goback and fill in the name.
But we drove to some cemetery.
I don't know the name of it.
Oh, bonaventure, bonaventure,let me.
(04:36):
Well, I don't know how to spellit.
Maybe that's why.
Okay, look at you.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
The Bonaventure summit there's a book called
midnight on the good and evil.
Yeah, I think was, and that wasbid at that moment and so we
had that.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So yeah, okay, got it , got it.
Um.
So we went to that cemeterybecause I am absolutely obsessed
with really old dead people.
Well, that's not really true,but we heard it was a cool place
to check out and it was.
Many beautiful statues and old,large oak trees with the
Spanish moss were strewn allthroughout the grounds.
(05:14):
Yeah, it really had that spookyold cemetery feel and I think
that's cool.
To see gravestones that havebeen there for over 200 years is
fascinating to me for somereason, I don't know.
It was also great having theJeep because we could just drive
through and see more than wehad walked it.
It sprinkled a bit, but no bigdeal.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I'm going to pause there.
I don't remember it sprinkling,but I do remember this is the
classic, like southern cemetery,you know, just beautiful
weeping willows or Spanish moss,like you said, driving in, yeah
, and having that whole thing,and there's that picture of like
an angel on top of a tombstone,right, I think that that's the
like, famous one there.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think I shared that photo on Facebook and Instagram
already.
Okay, so go check it out if youhaven't seen it and, while
you're there, like and subscribeif you haven't already.
Very well done.
How's that for some pandering?
Smash the like button Smash Getnotifications.
I don't know if that works, isthat?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
YouTube.
I think that is.
I think that is the YouTube.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, is that youtube ?
I think that is.
I think that is the youtube,okay.
Okay, well, I don't know if yousee a like button, smash it,
smash it.
It was.
Yeah, it was cool.
It's funny, you know, I'mthinking back.
We went and saw anothercemetery up in the in new
england, right um and I made andI made this comment about like
wow, 200 years old for oureuropean listeners, yeah,
(06:47):
they're like it's laughabledon't like this person's that
the dirt hasn't even settled.
But yeah, american history, thatseems pretty, pretty legit.
Um, but yeah, very cool, justwhat you would expect.
What you see in tv and movies,it's like old grave graveyards
this is like exactly that.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It felt like a southern cemetery and you're
driving in and the spanish mossis there and you see all these
old tombstones.
I don't think one of the thingsin our brief history of
savannah that we've we failed tomention is savannah was not, um
, it was not burned down bySherman.
It was Sherman's March afterthe Civil War, and so he marched
(07:31):
through the South and just wasburning everything just as a way
to kind of like, put you inyour place, thing like the North
One.
Pretty nasty, it's not?
very nice at all?
No, not very nice.
And I think it's just known assherman's march, and they
marched towards savannah andsavannah's mayors came out and
(07:51):
said we present the city ofsavannah to president lincoln as
like a christmas present Ithink it was in december with
its, you know, 545 canyons, andbasically saying that savannah
is too beautiful a city to burndown.
Right, so it's.
It's why it's one of the fewcities that still has antebellum
mansions in it.
(08:13):
And like pre civil war stufflike kind of everywhere, because
it wasn't burnt down, huh yeahyeah, where did you learn this?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
was I there and I just wasn't paying attention,
that's, I feel like it was aconversation you had in there,
probably those things that stuck.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
As you're like over there hammering something, I'm
like, oh, let's talk some more.
Yeah, let's learn some morethings.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I like being your friend, because you remember
cool stuff that I'm like oh man,I just missed that that is.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That is interesting.
Yeah, so I thought that was aninteresting thing yeah, that
that's super cool.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, I'm glad that that happened, I mean, and well
done on the mayors, yeah, ofwell, when you know savannah at
the time, right like, yeah, whatdo we have here?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
yeah, oh man we're not gonna win this, so you're
just burning everything, pleasestop please don't burn us down
see, this is there.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
This is the lesson.
In all of this is set asideyour pride, know when you're
beat and preserve what you'vegot, yes, and give it to Abraham
Lincoln.
Give him the city Just when indoubt, give it to Abraham
Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
When in doubt, yeah.
When in doubt, give it to theLincoln, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
We'll get some bracelets made.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, what would LinkedIn do?
W-w-l-d.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
G-I-T-L.
G-i-t-l.
Give it to Lincoln Give it toLincoln.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's the Savannah motto.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That'll remind you to lay down your pride.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We should.
Yeah, if our jobs don't workout, we should move to Savannah
and start.
You know how in Mexico theymake those bracelets for you
very quickly.
With the time you should makesome GITL bracelets and tie them
as the tourists walk around ontheir creepy haunted mansion
tours and stuff.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
That sounds very lucrative.
It does.
(09:59):
I'm in.
We'll probably make it.
This will be a good lifedecision, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, we'll make at least $15 to $18 a month.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A month, oh great.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, well, done us, maybe.
Well, we'll flesh that out alittle bit more, but okay.
Next, we drove to Tibby Island,where the Good Beach is.
So this is something that, evenhaving been there, when I think
of savannah, I'm not thinkingabout the beach, right, right
(10:31):
right, you're not, but agreed.
It's right, but it's justanother thing that's great about
savannah like you're prettyclose to the coast, I know the
river goes into the water.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Man, yeah, great city .
I don't know why I live here.
I I know I was just in the samething.
We've made some poor lifechoices, except for now this,
this bracelet making businessgood plan we okay, we're turning
our lives around this podcastwe thought the reason for it.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We thought would you know?
It's by others internationalfame and which hasn't really
been the case yet.
But really it was all just thisto get us to realize that we
need to relocate ourselves toGeorgia and start bracelet
making, that's right you knowhow.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It is incredible how fast those people do that.
Though it's a pause on that fora sec you ever had got one of
those?
You know what I'm talking about.
I think I know what you'retalking about.
No, I haven't had one made.
We were on the cruise and theystopped in sonata and you know
they're like, oh, three dollarsand we'll make your kids
bracelets, like, well, we'reabout to get in this little
shuttle bus, no problem.
I'm like this is like a wow,yes, wow.
(11:41):
Is it like?
Oh, my gosh, it's phenomenalhow fast they are.
So I do think one of them, likea hope, was maybe made, or an
isaac, like one of the more, butit was just like goodness, you
guys are quick.
You want that's cool, pink andpurple.
Okay, done, wow, amazing, it'sa, it's.
It was pretty incredible thatis cool.
(12:04):
Yeah, tibi Island I had one ofthose.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I had one of those like hats woven for me once in
Hawaii.
I think it was where it's likethey take a palm frond and then
they make it into a hat, yeah,yeah.
And then they made like alittle grasshopper on a stick
and that was like how did youfigure that out?
And it fit well, and it's great,super cool, super cool, super
cool.
It's amazing what people can do.
(12:28):
Anyway, savannah is not on theocean.
It is upriver a few miles.
That's why it was such a goodspot.
It was easily defendable fromthe Spanish in Florida and the
Native Americans.
Hope you enjoyed the historylesson.
See, that's as deep as I go I'mlike uh, it's defendable by you
(12:48):
know.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
So that's why they chose it, that's why it was a
team.
Which team?
Oh shoot, king george right,king george the third yeah,
george, the third, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yep, uh, hope you enjoyed the history lesson.
The beach was similar to myrtleBeach.
The sand had that brown sugartexture and a beautiful white
color.
We sat out and enjoyed the sandand sun for a while and then
headed downtown HistoricSavannah.
We drove around aimlesslythrough the squares for what
(13:17):
seemed like hours and may havebeen, and after taking pictures
and getting tangled in the mazeof the city, we headed out for
dinner.
We picked up some chicken andate it back in the rv.
After dinner we drove back tosavannah for a walking ghost
tour.
Ah, there it is.
Ah, right, remember that.
(13:38):
Yes, I think it's quite famousfor that.
People told us they were cool.
So we thought heck, heck, yes,let's do it.
We followed a guide around fortwo hours or so listening to
stories of history and, ofcourse, death in Savannah.
Of course, yes, seriously, I'mnot obsessed with the dead, but
when?
In Savannah.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh yeah, we saw the cemetery in the morning, do you?
The one memory I have from thatis that we went and there was
this window.
Does this remember?
Do you remember this, thiswindow that you were supposed to
put your camera up to, and ifyou knocked three times on the
door then the spirit wouldappear, boom, take your photo
(14:20):
and in the photo there'll bethis like thing and I I think
you and I said together orsomething, but we're like, wait
a second, digital photos haveruined this because you just
walked up, knock, knock, nope,no, no spirit whereas on film.
You would be like, okay, when wedelivered that, that picture
developed, we'll see a spirit.
(14:41):
Yeah, you're like this is theboop.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, yeah and and they knew, with the film ones
like you're just gonna get theglare off the window.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So it's not gonna you're like oh darn, I didn't
have the right camera.
Yeah, or you'll talk yourselfinto being like that's the
spirit.
It's the spirit.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The spirit is that little glare, that's it, right
is that where the phrase that'sthe spirit comes from, maybe,
maybe, but I was really excited.
That's the spirit there.
It that's the spirit comes from, maybe, maybe.
They're just really excited,that's the spirit.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
There it is.
That's the spirit I wassupposed to see in that room.
I thought that was such a funnymoment where we were like, well
, I think there were some girlson the tour with us too, and
they were like just taking abunch of photos of that door
Like tick, tick.
Oh, probably yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Not working.
Not working oh, I wonder why.
So fun, but it's, it'sinteresting.
I do remember.
This is actually one thing I doremember.
I think it was from that tourwhich was cool whether or not
you're into the whole ghostthing but it was like a
historical tour too and ittalked a lot about the civil war
and how you've got thisbeautiful city, but the armies
would come through and basicallyset up camp in these squares
that are basically the way thatthe city is, is built in.
(15:49):
This grid is all these.
You've got all these beautifulbig homes and then in the middle
of them there's a square whichis just a square park, and then
you go to the next one andthere's the next.
So they would set up camp inall these uh parks and you just
imagine sort of all of thesesoldiers, you know, getting
there from wherever they've beenand whatever they've gone
(16:10):
through, and and just like howdifferent it must have been then
.
And you know it's another placewe talked about this before in
gettysburg and just starting toimagine what these people went
through and then to stand inthat place.
I don't know.
There's just something reallyinteresting about standing in
the place where something sosignificant in history took
(16:31):
place.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
There is.
There's a like like I mean, youdon't know, maybe the word
spirits right, but there doesn'tfeel like there's a power there
or something.
And it is an odd, odd thing.
And I think that's why theydesigned Savannah that way was
so it could be very easilydefendable Because, like, you'd
push people through all thesenarrow streets right Like
between the buildings, so youcould kind of like camp out and
(16:56):
fight yeah, what an interestingcity to be in and yeah, the
death that happened because ofthe Civil War and all of those
things.
So it makes sense, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It's, um, no kind of unrelated.
But when I go back to Tennesseeto visit the family and they're
near Franklin and there's a,there's a big area like that and
there's a house that you can ora building of some sort and you
can drive by and they're like,oh yeah, there's all these
bullet holes in it.
You can see them driving by.
(17:27):
But I haven't done this, but myfolks have talked about it where
when you go in the house andlook out, it's just hundreds of
holes in the side of thisbuilding and you're like, oh my
gosh the oh my the things thattook place on that ground and,
like last time we were there, wewent and we got coffee at this
coffee shop that was rightacross from it and I'm like I'm
(17:49):
standing in a coffee shop Rightthat's built on top of land
where people were literallyRight Fighting to the death.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Right, that's just complaining about the lack of
wifi.
Oh yeah, why did I not get goodfive bars here?
Yeah, facebook photos notdownloading fast enough.
Life's so hard.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Life is so hard, I'll take a t-shirt.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Not like the latte foam art you put on there.
I would prefer a heart insteadof the rose you made me.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I know, okay, so.
You know that building hasholes in it from bullets and
people yeah, like you know, likeyou know, like a lot of people
died right here, right, andyou're complaining about your
coffee, sir, but fair enough aheart for you, here you go, fair
enough, thank you here's a tipanxiety's anxiety what I don't
(18:45):
know.
Anyway, if you're ever inFranklin, tennessee, shout out
to the Fainting Goat Coffee shop.
That's pretty good that's good.
There's another one it's a newerlocation.
They've got a couple locationsnow.
I love coffee.
Yeah, what do you get when yougo to a coffee?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
shop great question.
Andrew recently I've been doingflat whites, which is less foam
, and so it's like a latte, butit's not a lot of foam and so
it's just a lot of milk andcoffee.
And then I also like anamericano.
Okay, because I like I justlike black coffee, so I can
(19:23):
drink just straight black coffee, and I feel like an Americano
because it's a couple shots ofespresso and hot water.
It's a little smoother thanjust a drip coffee.
I like a drip coffee, but thoseare my go-tos.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, I like black coffee too and I find it really
anxiety-inducing to go into aplace like a Starbucks or name
your coffee shop, and like tryto order one of these drinks.
So I'm usually just like Mary,whatever you get, just get the
(19:53):
biggest size and we could splitit, is that?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
cool.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And then she like knows what to do and her trick
so she'll get like one of theflavored ones yeah, if we're
going to a coffee shop, thatkind of thing, right.
But she'll ask for, like hertrick is half the pumps less.
Because, yeah, if you're likegetting a hazelnut thing or
whatever, it's like, okay, howmany pumps in that?
They're like 20.
(20:17):
Yeah, I know it's a lot andwe'll be like just do 10 and
yeah, that's perfect but yeahyeah, I uh there's a place
called platch.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That is the first time where, like the roast has
mattered.
So you know different beans andthey roast them differently,
and they'll be like oh, this haslike a peach fruity aftertaste.
And then you taste it oh, itactually does like just the
coffee.
You know just the bean, yeah,and I've always been amazed, and
they're like.
Their mixed drinks, though, arereally good too, because they
they use like real pumpkin andlike cinnamon cloves instead of
(20:49):
cinnamon cloves, instead of likeyou know, yeah, they like just
like to mix up a batch andthat's their pumpkin spice.
So that's like, oh, that'sdifferent than just a pumpkin
spice latte.
This is like a yeah, a specialdrink, you know, yeah, it yeah
Tastes really good yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Tastes good.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's good, it's good All right, so we didn't talk
about Mrs Will's Boarding Housetoday.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
We didn't talk about that.
No, and I don't.
Let's see if I must talk.
Yeah, we're still in.
We spent a lot of time inSavannah.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So remember that I was able to find a lot of things
for us to do in Savannah veryquickly, yeah, whereas like
other places, they just weren'tas receptive to us.
And so this was a place wherewe had the work of the youth
groups, because we had twodifferent youth groups we helped
out, we had the work at theWesley Center, so, like there
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were things to do there, so wehad a kind of a full schedule.
So, and that was the, the ideaof the trip was to not like rush
into the next thing.
Right, we didn't need to beanywhere and so, hey, if we have
this, let's do it.
It's almost.
I just did this.
Um, I don't know if you guysare watching the chosen.
Have you watched the chosen yet?
I've seen a few mary, okay, butit's very, very good yeah it's
(22:05):
very, very good.
But, um, we're doing thissection on the chosen, I'm doing
as a bible study, we'rewatching it, and it led us to
the passage where jesus sendsout the 72, two by two, and
they're not supposed to go withanything, except like they're
what they're wearing, right, nofood, no clothes.
Because the idea is you walkinto a town and you have to find
someone who's going to takecare of you and like, if they're
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not going to take care of you,you go to the next town.
So, like you know, you find aman of peace is the word in the
greek there.
And if they, hey, welcome in,then do ministry there, heal the
sick, preach the gospel, do allthose things.
But if you don't find anyonethis is that classic verse shake
the dust off your shoes, andit'll be better for sodom and
gomorrah on the day of judgmentthan the house people, yeah, and
(22:47):
so, um, they have that and andI was just we're talking about
it, as you know where you'reable to be welcomed and do
ministry.
And I feel like that's what wewere doing is like, okay, this
place is ready, this place wantsus, let's do it.
Yeah, yeah.
And so we stayed and also ithelps helps.
It's warm, and beautiful andunlike any other city in America
(23:08):
.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, they were living by the mantra of give it
to Lincoln Give it to Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't know if that really checks out.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, so is that the day?
Yeah, that's the day.
And you know what?
I don't know how I wouldn'thave written about it, but I
think this must be the day thatwe go to Mrs Wilkes, because the
next day is Sunday and I justread ahead a little bit and we
(23:38):
went to the Mellow Mushroom forlunch on Sunday.
Oh, um, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm,the Mellow Mushroom for lunch
on Sunday.
Huh, and I think we did somestuff with the youth group
Sunday night and we definitelydid it for lunch.
Yeah, definitely for lunch.
Do you need to talk about it?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
We do have to talk about it.
We've got to talk about it.
Yeah, do we do it now or do weleave as Cliffhanger for next
week?
I think next week CliffhangerMissile Sporting House oh,
alright, we can do that.
Oof, I can't wait.
Come back next week, guys, andyou get to hear about the most
glorious I've been twice.
How many times have you been?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Oh, just once, Just once.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You got me beat.
All right, I'm booking theflight and I'm going to find
myself a real estate agent whileI'm there.
Yes, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And we're doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Bracelet making materials Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Bracelet making materials.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, maybe I don't need a real estate agent, maybe
I just need a nice van to livein, by the river, by the river,
beautiful river.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
To live in, yeah, the river.
By the river.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Beautiful river.
Have a great day, everybody.
To be honest, see you next weekwhen we talk about Mrs
Wiltsport, who knows Bye, bye.
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
So Lazy Days, motorhomes, georgia, savannah,
sweet tea, fried chicken Goodthings good days we always end
up doing this where we're likewe're going to talk about the
road trip and then you go andsay something like fried chicken
and I'm like well now all Iwant is fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It's partly a food podcast too, because we've done
a lot of food talk, which isokay with me.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know what, though , like we need food or we die.
So it's just a part of life.
I mean, we don't talk a lotabout breathing, which is
something that is also neededfor life.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Or sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
No, those topics haven't come up as much, but the
food topic has come up.
In fact, when do we go to agreat lunch?
Is that today?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, I think that might be today it has to be
today.
I was just looking throughphotos the other day and I saw a
picture of this lunch.
Yes, I don't know if we talkabout it today or not.
We'll find out.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, I hope we do.
Yeah, I hope we do, becausethat's a thing that I tell
people.
When they say, bro Savannah,I'm like, ooh, I have a
suggestion for you, I got.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
A place for you, I got a place for you Is it still
there, last for you.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Is it still there?
Last people, I went.
Well, your mom was thererecently.
Did she say oh, I don't know ifshe went there Sad, but she
didn't.
Oh, man, we got to Sad for her.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't know if I want to look it up, because,
okay, I'm going to look it up.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, I'll bet you it's still there.
It's one of those things thatwill probably outlive everything
Nuclear war zombie apocalypsethey'll still be serving fried
chicken.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know what Google Googled?
I barely typed in the name andGoogle was like oh yeah, it's
here, it's here.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh, it's still there.
Okay, good, leave that open,because I hope today we talked
about it, because I'm curiousabout, like the hours of
operation and stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So oh my gosh, I'm looking at about anything else,
oh dude.
Oh my gosh, did you know youcould stay there?
It's like a hotel too.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
That makes sense because of the name, but I
didn't even think about that.
Right, like the name isBoarding House, right?
Well, this is, or is that not,technically, the name.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, it's the Wilkes House, and so I looked up
dining room.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But yeah, I guess there's.
I always think of it as MrsWilkes boarding house.
Yeah, but I thought that wasmaybe like an old thing.
It was Like, oh, it used to bea boarding house and now we just
do the lunch, gosh, it's lovely.
Better than you remember.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, I'm looking at where you stay and it's just
like this very classic, I don'tknow very regal southern.
Oh, it's like an apartment,like moldings and, oh man, stone
fireplace, oh, man, that's sogreat what I you know what, when
I'm an old lady, this isdefinitely the type of place
(03:40):
that I would want to stay in yes, well, you would be a great old
lady.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, could happen.
You never know.
Yeah, could happen right now.
We'll see.
That's weird.
Yeah, that would be weird, buthit us.
Where are we?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
at.
Here we are.
Well, we're in Savannah still,why leave when you're having
such a great time?
Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So today is day 54.
It's Saturday, november 20th inSavannah, georgia.
Today was a free day, a quote,day off.
(04:14):
I know that's laughable, butreally that's what it was like,
sort of we thought we would takeadvantage of the day and see
the sights.
First, we drove to Well, thisis another place where I just
left it blank, thinking I'd goback and fill in the name.
But we drove to some cemetery.
I don't know the name of it.
Oh, bonaventure, bonaventure,let me.
(04:36):
Well, I don't know how to spellit.
Maybe that's why.
Okay, look at you.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
The Bonaventure summit there's a book called
midnight on the good and evil.
Yeah, I think was, and that wasbid at that moment and so we
had that.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So yeah, okay, got it , got it.
Um.
So we went to that cemeterybecause I am absolutely obsessed
with really old dead people.
Well, that's not really true,but we heard it was a cool place
to check out and it was.
Many beautiful statues and old,large oak trees with the
Spanish moss were strewn allthroughout the grounds.
(05:14):
Yeah, it really had that spookyold cemetery feel and I think
that's cool.
To see gravestones that havebeen there for over 200 years is
fascinating to me for somereason, I don't know.
It was also great having theJeep because we could just drive
through and see more than wehad walked it.
It sprinkled a bit, but no bigdeal.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I'm going to pause there.
I don't remember it sprinkling,but I do remember this is the
classic, like southern cemetery,you know, just beautiful
weeping willows or Spanish moss,like you said, driving in, yeah
, and having that whole thing,and there's that picture of like
an angel on top of a tombstone,right, I think that that's the
like, famous one there.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think I shared that photo on Facebook and Instagram
already.
Okay, so go check it out if youhaven't seen it and, while
you're there, like and subscribeif you haven't already.
Very well done.
How's that for some pandering?
Smash the like button Smash Getnotifications.
I don't know if that works, isthat?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
YouTube.
I think that is.
I think that is the YouTube.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, is that youtube ?
I think that is.
I think that is the youtube,okay.
Okay, well, I don't know if yousee a like button, smash it,
smash it.
It was.
Yeah, it was cool.
It's funny, you know, I'mthinking back.
We went and saw anothercemetery up in the in new
england, right um and I made andI made this comment about like
wow, 200 years old for oureuropean listeners, yeah,
(06:47):
they're like it's laughabledon't like this person's that
the dirt hasn't even settled.
But yeah, american history, thatseems pretty, pretty legit.
Um, but yeah, very cool, justwhat you would expect.
What you see in tv and movies,it's like old grave graveyards
this is like exactly that.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It felt like a southern cemetery and you're
driving in and the spanish mossis there and you see all these
old tombstones.
I don't think one of the thingsin our brief history of
savannah that we've we failed tomention is savannah was not, um
, it was not burned down bySherman.
It was Sherman's March afterthe Civil War, and so he marched
(07:31):
through the South and just wasburning everything just as a way
to kind of like, put you inyour place, thing like the North
One.
Pretty nasty, it's not?
very nice at all?
No, not very nice.
And I think it's just known assherman's march, and they
marched towards savannah andsavannah's mayors came out and
(07:51):
said we present the city ofsavannah to president lincoln as
like a christmas present Ithink it was in december with
its, you know, 545 canyons, andbasically saying that savannah
is too beautiful a city to burndown.
Right, so it's.
It's why it's one of the fewcities that still has antebellum
mansions in it.
(08:13):
And like pre civil war stufflike kind of everywhere, because
it wasn't burnt down, huh yeahyeah, where did you learn this?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
was I there and I just wasn't paying attention,
that's, I feel like it was aconversation you had in there,
probably those things that stuck.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
As you're like over there hammering something, I'm
like, oh, let's talk some more.
Yeah, let's learn some morethings.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I like being your friend, because you remember
cool stuff that I'm like oh man,I just missed that that is.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That is interesting.
Yeah, so I thought that was aninteresting thing yeah, that
that's super cool.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, I'm glad that that happened, I mean, and well
done on the mayors, yeah, ofwell, when you know savannah at
the time, right like, yeah, whatdo we have here?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
yeah, oh man we're not gonna win this, so you're
just burning everything, pleasestop please don't burn us down
see, this is there.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
This is the lesson.
In all of this is set asideyour pride, know when you're
beat and preserve what you'vegot, yes, and give it to Abraham
Lincoln.
Give him the city Just when indoubt, give it to Abraham
Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
When in doubt, yeah.
When in doubt, give it to theLincoln, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
We'll get some bracelets made.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, what would LinkedIn do?
W-w-l-d.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
G-I-T-L.
G-i-t-l.
Give it to Lincoln Give it toLincoln.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's the Savannah motto.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That'll remind you to lay down your pride.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We should.
Yeah, if our jobs don't workout, we should move to Savannah
and start.
You know how in Mexico theymake those bracelets for you
very quickly.
With the time you should makesome GITL bracelets and tie them
as the tourists walk around ontheir creepy haunted mansion
tours and stuff.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
That sounds very lucrative.
It does.
(09:59):
I'm in.
We'll probably make it.
This will be a good lifedecision, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, we'll make at least $15 to $18 a month.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A month, oh great.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, well, done us, maybe.
Well, we'll flesh that out alittle bit more, but okay.
Next, we drove to Tibby Island,where the Good Beach is.
So this is something that, evenhaving been there, when I think
of savannah, I'm not thinkingabout the beach, right, right
(10:31):
right, you're not, but agreed.
It's right, but it's justanother thing that's great about
savannah like you're prettyclose to the coast, I know the
river goes into the water.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Man, yeah, great city .
I don't know why I live here.
I I know I was just in the samething.
We've made some poor lifechoices, except for now this,
this bracelet making businessgood plan we okay, we're turning
our lives around this podcastwe thought the reason for it.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We thought would you know?
It's by others internationalfame and which hasn't really
been the case yet.
But really it was all just thisto get us to realize that we
need to relocate ourselves toGeorgia and start bracelet
making, that's right you knowhow.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It is incredible how fast those people do that.
Though it's a pause on that fora sec you ever had got one of
those?
You know what I'm talking about.
I think I know what you'retalking about.
No, I haven't had one made.
We were on the cruise and theystopped in sonata and you know
they're like, oh, three dollarsand we'll make your kids
bracelets, like, well, we'reabout to get in this little
shuttle bus, no problem.
I'm like this is like a wow,yes, wow.
(11:41):
Is it like?
Oh, my gosh, it's phenomenalhow fast they are.
So I do think one of them, likea hope, was maybe made, or an
isaac, like one of the more, butit was just like goodness, you
guys are quick.
You want that's cool, pink andpurple.
Okay, done, wow, amazing, it'sa, it's.
It was pretty incredible thatis cool.
(12:04):
Yeah, tibi Island I had one ofthose.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I had one of those like hats woven for me once in
Hawaii.
I think it was where it's likethey take a palm frond and then
they make it into a hat, yeah,yeah.
And then they made like alittle grasshopper on a stick
and that was like how did youfigure that out?
And it fit well, and it's great,super cool, super cool, super
cool.
It's amazing what people can do.
(12:28):
Anyway, savannah is not on theocean.
It is upriver a few miles.
That's why it was such a goodspot.
It was easily defendable fromthe Spanish in Florida and the
Native Americans.
Hope you enjoyed the historylesson.
See, that's as deep as I go I'mlike uh, it's defendable by you
(12:48):
know.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
So that's why they chose it, that's why it was a
team.
Which team?
Oh shoot, king george right,king george the third yeah,
george, the third, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yep, uh, hope you enjoyed the history lesson.
The beach was similar to myrtleBeach.
The sand had that brown sugartexture and a beautiful white
color.
We sat out and enjoyed the sandand sun for a while and then
headed downtown HistoricSavannah.
We drove around aimlesslythrough the squares for what
(13:17):
seemed like hours and may havebeen, and after taking pictures
and getting tangled in the mazeof the city, we headed out for
dinner.
We picked up some chicken andate it back in the rv.
After dinner we drove back tosavannah for a walking ghost
tour.
Ah, there it is.
Ah, right, remember that.
(13:38):
Yes, I think it's quite famousfor that.
People told us they were cool.
So we thought heck, heck, yes,let's do it.
We followed a guide around fortwo hours or so listening to
stories of history and, ofcourse, death in Savannah.
Of course, yes, seriously, I'mnot obsessed with the dead, but
when?
In Savannah.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh yeah, we saw the cemetery in the morning, do you?
The one memory I have from thatis that we went and there was
this window.
Does this remember?
Do you remember this, thiswindow that you were supposed to
put your camera up to, and ifyou knocked three times on the
door then the spirit wouldappear, boom, take your photo
(14:20):
and in the photo there'll bethis like thing and I I think
you and I said together orsomething, but we're like, wait
a second, digital photos haveruined this because you just
walked up, knock, knock, nope,no, no spirit whereas on film.
You would be like, okay, when wedelivered that, that picture
developed, we'll see a spirit.
(14:41):
Yeah, you're like this is theboop.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, yeah and and they knew, with the film ones
like you're just gonna get theglare off the window.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So it's not gonna you're like oh darn, I didn't
have the right camera.
Yeah, or you'll talk yourselfinto being like that's the
spirit.
It's the spirit.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The spirit is that little glare, that's it, right
is that where the phrase that'sthe spirit comes from, maybe,
maybe, but I was really excited.
That's the spirit there.
It that's the spirit comes from, maybe, maybe.
They're just really excited,that's the spirit.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
There it is.
That's the spirit I wassupposed to see in that room.
I thought that was such a funnymoment where we were like, well
, I think there were some girlson the tour with us too, and
they were like just taking abunch of photos of that door
Like tick, tick.
Oh, probably yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Not working.
Not working oh, I wonder why.
So fun, but it's, it'sinteresting.
I do remember.
This is actually one thing I doremember.
I think it was from that tourwhich was cool whether or not
you're into the whole ghostthing but it was like a
historical tour too and ittalked a lot about the civil war
and how you've got thisbeautiful city, but the armies
would come through and basicallyset up camp in these squares
that are basically the way thatthe city is, is built in.
(15:49):
This grid is all these.
You've got all these beautifulbig homes and then in the middle
of them there's a square whichis just a square park, and then
you go to the next one andthere's the next.
So they would set up camp inall these uh parks and you just
imagine sort of all of thesesoldiers, you know, getting
there from wherever they've beenand whatever they've gone
(16:10):
through, and and just like howdifferent it must have been then
.
And you know it's another placewe talked about this before in
gettysburg and just starting toimagine what these people went
through and then to stand inthat place.
I don't know.
There's just something reallyinteresting about standing in
the place where something sosignificant in history took
(16:31):
place.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
There is.
There's a like like I mean, youdon't know, maybe the word
spirits right, but there doesn'tfeel like there's a power there
or something.
And it is an odd, odd thing.
And I think that's why theydesigned Savannah that way was
so it could be very easilydefendable Because, like, you'd
push people through all thesenarrow streets right Like
between the buildings, so youcould kind of like camp out and
(16:56):
fight yeah, what an interestingcity to be in and yeah, the
death that happened because ofthe Civil War and all of those
things.
So it makes sense, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It's, um, no kind of unrelated.
But when I go back to Tennesseeto visit the family and they're
near Franklin and there's a,there's a big area like that and
there's a house that you can ora building of some sort and you
can drive by and they're like,oh yeah, there's all these
bullet holes in it.
You can see them driving by.
(17:27):
But I haven't done this, but myfolks have talked about it where
when you go in the house andlook out, it's just hundreds of
holes in the side of thisbuilding and you're like, oh my
gosh the oh my the things thattook place on that ground and,
like last time we were there, wewent and we got coffee at this
coffee shop that was rightacross from it and I'm like I'm
(17:49):
standing in a coffee shop Rightthat's built on top of land
where people were literallyRight Fighting to the death.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Right, that's just complaining about the lack of
wifi.
Oh yeah, why did I not get goodfive bars here?
Yeah, facebook photos notdownloading fast enough.
Life's so hard.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Life is so hard, I'll take a t-shirt.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Not like the latte foam art you put on there.
I would prefer a heart insteadof the rose you made me.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I know, okay, so.
You know that building hasholes in it from bullets and
people yeah, like you know, likeyou know, like a lot of people
died right here, right, andyou're complaining about your
coffee, sir, but fair enough aheart for you, here you go, fair
enough, thank you here's a tipanxiety's anxiety what I don't
(18:45):
know.
Anyway, if you're ever inFranklin, tennessee, shout out
to the Fainting Goat Coffee shop.
That's pretty good that's good.
There's another one it's a newerlocation.
They've got a couple locationsnow.
I love coffee.
Yeah, what do you get when yougo to a coffee?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
shop great question.
Andrew recently I've been doingflat whites, which is less foam
, and so it's like a latte, butit's not a lot of foam and so
it's just a lot of milk andcoffee.
And then I also like anamericano.
Okay, because I like I justlike black coffee, so I can
(19:23):
drink just straight black coffee, and I feel like an Americano
because it's a couple shots ofespresso and hot water.
It's a little smoother thanjust a drip coffee.
I like a drip coffee, but thoseare my go-tos.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, I like black coffee too and I find it really
anxiety-inducing to go into aplace like a Starbucks or name
your coffee shop, and like tryto order one of these drinks.
So I'm usually just like Mary,whatever you get, just get the
(19:53):
biggest size and we could splitit, is that?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
cool.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And then she like knows what to do and her trick
so she'll get like one of theflavored ones yeah, if we're
going to a coffee shop, thatkind of thing, right.
But she'll ask for, like hertrick is half the pumps less.
Because, yeah, if you're likegetting a hazelnut thing or
whatever, it's like, okay, howmany pumps in that?
They're like 20.
(20:17):
Yeah, I know it's a lot andwe'll be like just do 10 and
yeah, that's perfect but yeahyeah, I uh there's a place
called platch.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That is the first time where, like the roast has
mattered.
So you know different beans andthey roast them differently,
and they'll be like oh, this haslike a peach fruity aftertaste.
And then you taste it oh, itactually does like just the
coffee.
You know just the bean, yeah,and I've always been amazed, and
they're like.
Their mixed drinks, though, arereally good too, because they
they use like real pumpkin andlike cinnamon cloves instead of
(20:49):
cinnamon cloves, instead of likeyou know, yeah, they like just
like to mix up a batch andthat's their pumpkin spice.
So that's like, oh, that'sdifferent than just a pumpkin
spice latte.
This is like a yeah, a specialdrink, you know, yeah, it yeah
Tastes really good yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Tastes good.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's good, it's good All right, so we didn't talk
about Mrs Will's Boarding Housetoday.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
We didn't talk about that.
No, and I don't.
Let's see if I must talk.
Yeah, we're still in.
We spent a lot of time inSavannah.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So remember that I was able to find a lot of things
for us to do in Savannah veryquickly, yeah, whereas like
other places, they just weren'tas receptive to us.
And so this was a place wherewe had the work of the youth
groups, because we had twodifferent youth groups we helped
out, we had the work at theWesley Center, so, like there
(21:42):
were things to do there, so wehad a kind of a full schedule.
So, and that was the, the ideaof the trip was to not like rush
into the next thing.
Right, we didn't need to beanywhere and so, hey, if we have
this, let's do it.
It's almost.
I just did this.
Um, I don't know if you guysare watching the chosen.
Have you watched the chosen yet?
I've seen a few mary, okay, butit's very, very good yeah it's
(22:05):
very, very good.
But, um, we're doing thissection on the chosen, I'm doing
as a bible study, we'rewatching it, and it led us to
the passage where jesus sendsout the 72, two by two, and
they're not supposed to go withanything, except like they're
what they're wearing, right, nofood, no clothes.
Because the idea is you walkinto a town and you have to find
someone who's going to takecare of you and like, if they're
(22:26):
not going to take care of you,you go to the next town.
So, like you know, you find aman of peace is the word in the
greek there.
And if they, hey, welcome in,then do ministry there, heal the
sick, preach the gospel, do allthose things.
But if you don't find anyonethis is that classic verse shake
the dust off your shoes, andit'll be better for sodom and
gomorrah on the day of judgmentthan the house people, yeah, and
(22:47):
so, um, they have that and andI was just we're talking about
it, as you know where you'reable to be welcomed and do
ministry.
And I feel like that's what wewere doing is like, okay, this
place is ready, this place wantsus, let's do it.
Yeah, yeah.
And so we stayed and also ithelps helps.
It's warm, and beautiful andunlike any other city in America
(23:08):
.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, they were living by the mantra of give it
to Lincoln Give it to Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't know if that really checks out.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, so is that the day?
Yeah, that's the day.
And you know what?
I don't know how I wouldn'thave written about it, but I
think this must be the day thatwe go to Mrs Wilkes, because the
next day is Sunday and I justread ahead a little bit and we
(23:38):
went to the Mellow Mushroom forlunch on Sunday.
Oh, um, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm,the Mellow Mushroom for lunch
on Sunday.
Huh, and I think we did somestuff with the youth group
Sunday night and we definitelydid it for lunch.
Yeah, definitely for lunch.
Do you need to talk about it?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
We do have to talk about it.
We've got to talk about it.
Yeah, do we do it now or do weleave as Cliffhanger for next
week?
I think next week CliffhangerMissile Sporting House oh,
alright, we can do that.
Oof, I can't wait.
Come back next week, guys, andyou get to hear about the most
glorious I've been twice.
How many times have you been?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Oh, just once, Just once.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You got me beat.
All right, I'm booking theflight and I'm going to find
myself a real estate agent whileI'm there.
Yes, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And we're doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Bracelet making materials Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Bracelet making materials.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, maybe I don't need a real estate agent, maybe
I just need a nice van to livein, by the river, by the river,
beautiful river.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
To live in, yeah, the river.
By the river.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Beautiful river.
Have a great day, everybody.
To be honest, see you next weekwhen we talk about Mrs
Wiltsport, who knows Bye, bye.
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