November 6, 2024 • 31 mins
Ever find yourself longing for the carefree days of spontaneous road trips and the comforting tunes of college rock? Join me, Scott Hawkins, as I share a personal tale of a missed REM concert with my dad, which taught me that life's real treasures are found in shared moments rather than destinations. As we traverse through nostalgic memories on this Election Day 2024, I offer a gentle reminder that the spirit of resilience will carry us through any uncertainties, soothing our souls much like the melodies of REM and Counting Crows.
Our adventure takes an unexpected turn to the vibrant streets of New Orleans, where the air is filled with the intoxicating smell of its culinary delights. Discover the genius behind Mardi Gras ladder seats and ponder their potential uses beyond parade season. Engage in our lighthearted debate over the best chicken sandwiches, where Popeyes' notorious mustard sauce and crispy offerings take center stage, all while savoring the unique rhythm and energy of this extraordinary city.
As the night unfolds, let me whisk you away on a whimsical evening in the French Quarter, where jazz melodies and dollar shots create an enchanting backdrop. This episode is an invitation to embrace the unpredictable journey of life with laughter, enriched by the captivating tales of musical memories and the flavors of adventure.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
The sweet sounds of bass thumping guitar, doing a
swift jazz lick.
These are the sounds that bringyou to the Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles podcast.
The time you get to spend withme, Scott Hawkins, him and again
, We'll talk about life in thelazy days, life on the road,
serving churches, going toWalmarts.
Follow us on Facebook, Downloadthe podcast, Go on the whole
(00:44):
journey with us.
We've been doing this for 52episodes, I think something like
that, and we are continuing togo, so welcome on this election
day 2024.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's right.
Today, as we record is November5th, november 5th, november 5th
.
We don't know who our nextpresident is, yet we don't.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But I will say as is said on the sign of my church I
hate to ruin the ending, buteverything will be okay, and it
will so, wherever you are whenyou listen to this whoever won,
don't worry, it's all going tobe okay.
Jesus is thrown, he's on thethrone and the world will
continue to spin.
So yes, we all just might getto have a little quicker than we
(01:32):
thought is.
Well, you guys in the city oforange, you might?
I like us.
We're going to live on the waterlike water world, kevin Costner
.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I like to quote the psalmist who said it's the end
of the world as we know it, butI feel fine.
Oh, I feel fine.
Okay, that's the takeaway REMMichael Stipe, what a great poet
.
Psalm 151.
(02:01):
The poem of REM.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, but good music, I don't listen to them enough
and then, like you do, you'relike there's some solid tunes,
yeah yeah, that was a time.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That was an era of music where, like, what, what
even genre would like, Iwouldn't call that rock and roll
.
What, what is no?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
but everybody puts it like I've heard it said college
rock.
I don't know what that means.
Is that what that is?
It's like I think so.
I think they're like the ep'veheard it said college rock.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I don't know what that means.
Is that what that is?
I?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
think so.
I think they're like theepitome of a college rock band,
Like this kind of funkyguitar-driven that probably
checks out.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I went and saw Counting Crows over the summer.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
A little college rock-y, but they're more
mainstream.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, there's like Toad the Wet Sprocket.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
They opened for them.
That's yeah, there's like Toadthe Wet Sprocket, they open for
them and like all these sort oflike they were played on the
rock stations, but they're notlike rock and roll.
No, like Weezer has some of that.
I have a memory and we'll havesome memories of Scott today on
the show of me and my daddriving out somewhere to like
(03:03):
Riverside or somewhere to seeREM.
And it was a spontaneous thing,I was into them and my dad
probably didn't make it becausethe freaking 91 was so bad.
So it was like at some point.
My dad's like, well, I don'tthink we're going to make it.
I was like, and honestly Idon't even feel that this is
(03:24):
probably something that's goodto remember.
As a parent, like as a 42 yearold, I honestly don't feel
disappointed.
It was just kind of cool.
We tried, oh, that's cool, youknow.
Like I wasn't like and I don'tlook back at it and be like, oh,
I wish we had actually seen it,but it's like that was kind of
fun, like to try to jump in thecar and make it out there.
You know, and and maybe I knewon the way, like this is
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unrealistic.
And Dad's like let's try Backin the day when you didn't
really know things untilnewspaper.
What REM is playing thatTonight, one night only.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Doors at 7.
And it's 5 545 after all.
The 91 headed east Will surelymade it jump in the LeBaron,
(04:08):
exactly, lebaron, solid car tooksome promenades in the.
LeBaron.
Oh man, it was classy, it surewas.
Is that a white leather?
Interior it was definitelyleather, it was like red, I
don't know, I remember theoutside was a maroon color, the
(04:30):
outside was a dark maroon.
Yeah, my dad had a ToyotaCorolla and we got in the Toyota
Corolla to go to MongolianBarbecue, which don't eat enough
.
The more Mongolian Barbecueshould be involved in our lives.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
right, the big walk up by Michael's off of Anza,
where it ends going up we wouldgo to the one on Hawthorne and
Torrance Boulevard across fromthe Albertsons.
Across from the Albertsons yes,that's like right where I live.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yes, right there, across you guys drove all the
way down Anza.
But yeah, right there, mandolyBar, across you guys drove all
the way down amza.
But yet, right there, mcdonaldbarber to you and the on the
drive there the seat broke mydad, the seat no longer set up,
just straight back and so we puta two by four.
We put a two by four in theseat so it would sit up and
drove and at that we leavemcdonald barber to you.
(05:21):
We walk next door to to theChrysler dealership and that
night my dad buys a ChryslerLeBaron convertible.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
No way.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yes, we're on the freeway driving and I'm sure, as
an adult, I'm sure there weremarriage conversations happening
before they let this car startto go.
This is bad.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
A last straw?
Yeah, just like that.
That's good we're leavingTallahassee.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
The book.
Hasn't Andrew stoppeddocumenting?
So now we're on to straightmemories.
We left our friends behind, ourwonderful compound of love and
Jesus-y time behind, and weheaded straight to the city of
sin.
No, not Las.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Vegas?
That'd be too far.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Drive the other way, the southern version of it, new
Orleans, go on.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
See, I like how you say that I was going to, but I
feel a little bit insecure aboutjust like going for it and
saying New Orleans, oh yeah.
I feel like an imposter, so Ijust have to say it like a total
tool and be like New.
Orleans New.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Orleans.
That was a good radio list.
New Orleans, the city thatsometimes floods because it's
below sea level.
Ah, true facts.
How many times have you been toNew Orleans since that?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Um, I don't know if I've been back since then, oh,
really Okay, no, I don't know ifI've been back since.
Oh really, okay.
No, I don't think I have.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh bummer, it's a fun , it's a fun city, it's the same
.
I feel like it's a three, threeday city where, like, if I'm
there more than three days, I'ma little bit like itchy kind of
advantage in that regards to me.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But right, it's a cool city, it's a cool city yeah
, it's one's one of those citiesyou should go there.
Oh for sure, yeah for sure, nodoubt, go see it before the
levees break and it's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Again, again, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Again.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Below sea level.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's one of those I do think there was.
At one point we were walkingaround some of the historical
areas and you see like a shipgoing down the river.
Yes and it walking around someof the historical areas and you
see like a ship going down theriver and it's above you and
you're like yes, this is unusual.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, unusual, yeah, thick all the time.
So I went I want to say two,but it may have been three, but
I would feel more confidentsaying two to a Mardi Gras and
we would go.
And if Mardi Gras, outside oflike the French Quarter, is much
more family friendly?
And so I built these laddersand you have a seat.
(07:50):
You have to put a seat on topof the ladder.
It was kind of like the MardiGras thing and then the kids
would sit in the ladder seat soit was like all around them and
they'd have like a thing acrosstheir belly so they could sit on
top of the ladder safely.
And then people throw in beadsand you would have your kid up
there and you'd be standingbehind them trying to catch all
the beads off of the thing.
What?
Yes, there's a type in mardigras ladder seat and you will
(08:19):
see exactly what I'm talkingabout, because once you see it
you'll know what I mean.
And until I had seen it I hadnever thought about it.
But boy is it cool.
And so you put it on a six footladder and then your kids sit
there and you stand behind themon the ladder and you're
catching beads in the face.
(08:40):
You know shots.
Um.
So yeah, it is, it was reallyfun and so we did that.
Uh, I think twice, maybe threetimes.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh, this guy put wheels on his, so he could wheel
it.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
There's some people, they do it, they come, do it up,
like we had to drive them fromBirmingham.
I built one for our friends too, because I was building them.
I'm like, oh, mine's only two,and so I built one for our
friends, so we had we had two ofthem and I think we gave them
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parade.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
If you're a kid, you're above everything I know
I'm like this.
This has a lot of applicationsright, why isn't this more of a
thing?
Yeah, rise above the crowdexactly.
Bring your own stadium seatingexactly.
Oh my gosh, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I feel like this is an opportunity for a a business
hustle here, scott did he putwheels on the top so you could
just carry it from the back andthen like yes it, I haven't seen
some of those.
Yeah, it's interesting.
It's one of those things that'slike where else could?
We do this I mean, it's notlike rose parade yeah, yeah rose
parade uh veterans day paradedown towards boulevard and it's
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probably not gonna let you takea.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, they're probably not gonna let you pull
a ladder into disneyland.
No, but that's probably out?
Yeah, that would be oh manpeople that would catch on quick
too.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, oh, people be like with the ladder ladders up
all day.
What the ladder, what thatdisney would mass produce them
you need to try to buy childrento be bad.
You know that took a weirdspiral.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So, um, yeah, so so new orleans, let's talk about,
tell us, let's, let's talk aboutit.
Um, we've already establishedit's a delta, that's sinking
down and they have to build upthe levees.
So that's that's something.
But the buildings, the cryptsare above ground.
Because of that, you can't digdown because it'll just be
(10:34):
watery.
So that's why all the gravesare above ground, right?
Yep, this is sort of thatquintessential old wrought iron
and big oak trees with with theSpanish moss, similar to what we
saw in Savannah.
Savannah is kind of like adifferent version of New Orleans
no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Orleans yeah, it has.
It has an energy about it too.
I feel there's a veryparticular New Orleans energy.
The food is very good in NewOrleans, Definitely a place that
you'd want to go and get somedelicious food, which we'll talk
about in a sec.
Again, we are now staying inhotels because we don't have a
(11:14):
pubertank.
We have gotten hotels by lindaand she is, uh, getting us
hotels in different cities.
So we decide, hey, come in neworleans, let's stay a night
there.
I feel like it was one night,maybe it was two, I think it was
one, I think it was just onenight, but maybe we got there
early because it's not that fardrive.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, probably wasn't that far of a drive from
tallahassee, so we just wentthere, stayed the night at some
hotel, but we um I was tellingscott as we were thinking about
this I think we first had lunchwhen we got there, at popeyes
chicken, which, oh man, popeyes,I don't know what your go-to is
, but mine.
(11:54):
So there was a popeyes nearwhere I used to work in pasadena
, so I'd sneak up there anytimeI drove in and not take the
train and I would get like Ithink it was like three strips
or five strips, but the the keyfor me was the mardi gras
mustard dipping sauce.
Oh, that's good it's so good.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
The cajun fries too.
Right like those are.
The cajun fries are good, butthey also have like jambalaya
which or basically like rice andbeans not to bring up a super
controversial topic on electionday, but like what is your go to
chicken sandwich?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I never did end up trying the popeyes chicken
sandwich.
I've never had shut your, shutyour mouth.
No, I never did it.
I think because it was such ahype.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It's still around.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I know so they just built one here in Orange, but I
haven't been there.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
What are you doing Talking to me?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
They built one in Buena Park, which that's where
we go to church and that's wheremy father-in-law and
sister-in-law and brother-in-lawlive, and so I went there one
day and I was so excited aboutit I was like Popeye's this is
great, I was there by myself.
So I'm like I can just getwhatever I want and go.
And man, it was the worstPopeye's experience I had ever
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had and they're like yeah, Idon't know what it is.
There's no, there's neveranybody here and they got and it
was like not, it was not good,but yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Go to your Popeye's close by.
The chicken sandwich is so good, is it better?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Is it better than Chick-fil-A I?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
feel like it's better .
I know Really Some people madat me for saying that right now,
but it's so now.
I haven't had it probably in ayear.
But it is so good and it's likejuicy and it's the right kind
of breading and it's just theynailed it, they nailed it?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Does it have a pickle on it?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, two, three yeah .
Speaker 2 (13:49):
The thing that irritates me about these
conversations is.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I feel like all of them are good Right?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Oh, I thought you meant this conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm like are you, but are we?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
going?
Are you saying that the thiswhole thing, this whole podcast,
all these conversations overthe last year have irritated you
?
Okay, the chicken sandwichconversation.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, got it.
I look forward to theseconversations.
No, thank goodness, the chickensandwich, because it's like
saying, like whoa, what's yourfavorite donut Like?
Let Like, whoa, what's yourfavorite donut Like?
Let's start already that donutsare delicious, right?
So, like the floor of donuts isabove Brussels sprouts, right,
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most vegetables.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Well, here's the thing, though.
Yes, tell me, I hear you, butin the mix is also like the
McDonaldald's chicken sandwichand the wendy's chicken sandwich
now, which I I'm not gonna likethey're fine that's what I mean
.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They're fine.
You're not like, oh, bummer, Ihad a mcdonald's chicken
sandwich, like, okay, it wasfine, I'm full, I didn't hate it
.
But we're not talking aboutlike a bad food.
There's not.
You know what I mean.
There's not like a horribleversion where you're like,
bummed, that that was what youhad for lunch.
You could say, oh, I wish wehad a Popeye's sandwich, I wish
that Chick-fil-A didn't sandwichagreed, but still, you're
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already in the world of likechicken sandwiches.
What about the?
Have you seen the commercials?
Or is this just a Redondo thingfor the?
The chicken Big Mac, chicken,big mac.
Oh, I have seen that that lookshorrendous.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's a must try you have.
No, no, I would.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I can't wait to hear what you think of it, but I will
chicken patties yes, I saw apicture that was like oh no, no
way I agree with you.
Even the McDonald'sadvertisement pictures don't
look great, which is not goodfor the actual sandwich, right?
Because if you can't pull thatoff you're already in trouble.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm like who's asking for?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
this.
That's a good question.
Who is asking for?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
that?
Are they getting all therequests?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Boy, if you just made a chicken, big Mac, they're
like we can't deny it anymoreguys, the Big Mac has been going
great for a long time.
Okay, so Popeyes.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So we're at Popeyes.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I want to say something else about Popeyes
Moving into Birmingham.
Our first stop was PopeyesChicken when I moved to
Birmingham On our way in.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
We're like on the outsk.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Birmingham On our way in.
Really it was like, oh, here'sa Popeye's.
So I go up to the Popeye'sorder Emily's at the booth and
I'm like, okay, what do we want?
And I go to order and theperson takes my order and then
repeats something back to methat I have absolutely no idea
what they're saying.
And I said what was that?
Oh, that I have absolutely noidea what they're saying.
(16:36):
And she goes Spice and Red.
And I said, uh-huh, what wasthat man?
Oh, yep, Uh-huh.
And she goes Spice and Red.
And I said, oh, and I haven'thad enough Popeyes to even know
the context.
So I'm just looking at her andshe's looking at me like what's
your answer?
And the person behind, oh,regular.
(17:01):
And I go back to the table andI look at emily and I'm like
we're not gonna make it we'renot gonna make it in the south.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This was a bad, this is bad choice.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We're, oh, we don't understand them and they don't
understand us from california.
This is bad.
I'm not.
I can't even order popeye'schicken at the store.
Oh, no how am I gonna get?
The person had such a thicksouthern accent and they just
balled these words into thiscobbler of phrasing and I was
like, oh, we're dead meat, emily, and she was splashing, so that
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is still a special memory ofPopeye's oh, and I just don't
know.
I'm like yes, yes, everything.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That sounds good, thank you, you, I'll take one of
each.
Yeah, what's the soup of theday?
Oh, the soup du jour soundsgood, I'll have that yes, please
, yeah, okay.
So we're at popeyes and duo, soso we're at popeyes, we're just
eating our lunch going oh,louisiana fresh.
This is good you know and uh,all of a sudden it must it must
(18:06):
have been like school got out,because all of a sudden there
was like a rush of kids and Ithink I was thinking like, oh no
, they're gonna come into thispopeyes, and it's, there's gonna
be a ruckus just all these kids, you know, but all of a sudden
they're like oh running a lot ofthem.
I'm like what is happening?
And then a rumble breaks out.
Rumble, a rumble Between thejets and the sharks.
(18:28):
Yes, just like that Startedlike walking around with their
switchblades and snapping ateach other.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
No, just a street fight amongst local New Orleans
kids and I thought don't feelcomfortable.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So what did Scott Andrew do when the rumble
happened?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, we just continued nope, we stayed
solidly in the safety of thePopeye's chicken and hoped that
it would go away.
Oh look, oh look, a rumble.
But I felt out of place.
Yes, I felt uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I would say.
You and I are not rumblers.
I have wrestled for high school, but that's the closest I've
ever gotten to being in a fight.
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
That's not even, no, somepeople.
That's to be disputed.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Have you ever gotten in a fight as a kid?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
No, that's what I mean.
The closest I got was Well,there's a really nice one
neighbor kid.
I jumped on his back one timeand I was like I was like you
know eight or nine and me and myfriend once on the same block
decided to just like box, bareknuckle box for fun, because
this is a great idea as a 11year old, right.
So we put our footballmouthpieces in and just went to
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town.
Oh, but we weren't mad, itwasn't like.
It was like hey, you're bought,you know.
Yeah, my jaw hurt for likethree days.
He was like two years olderthan me, I think.
Oh dude, I just got liketattooed across the face yeah so
that was the like.
That's the extent of the fightI've been.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think in middle school maybe it was elementary
school it was me.
Yep, I don't know if you couldreally call it that, let me.
Let me paint a little picturethough for you.
Paint a word picture for thelistener who doesn't know me or
didn't know me as a child?
Not a big guy.
No, not a big guy.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
No, you're put it this way class picture.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I'm always in the front row.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
You're 4, 11, 95 pounds in high school, like
you're showing up dripping wet.
Yeah, as a sophomore, as asophomore yeah, like love it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, no, uh, freshman year I walked into high
school at 78 pounds.
This is great, no joke.
So this is much before that.
So I I was I think it wasprobably, I don't know, middle
school, fifth grade, somethinglike that.
So I was.
I was little, always number twoin sports because number two is
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the smallest jersey.
Right, like that, that's me.
Well, there was another guy whowas like we were competing for
the smallest guy award and Imust have made him mad or
something, because we're likewalking out of school at the end
and he came running up and liketried to tackle me or something
, oh, oh, and I think he was madat me and I don't remember if I
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fell to the ground or shovedhim or like we kind of like went
around and then people werelike no, no, no, little guys,
stop it.
And like that was pretty muchit and they lifted you up and
held you in the air by.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
They both kicked us up by the backs of our shirts.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Let me down.
Let me at him.
I'll hurt you, come on.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I'll hurt you.
I will, I'll hit you One day.
Put up your tubes.
Come on, mighty Mouse, go aftereach other.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And they probably forced us, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Let's say Ryanyan, okay, that sounds like a right,
though we had a lot of right, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
They probably they probably like, forced us to hug
each other afterwards you knowwork it out, and we should have
plotted together too.
Let's get those big guys let'sget our guys.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
That's exact revenge together.
We will wait one half of one ofthem.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That'll work out well I don't know what happened to
that guy.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah ryan, the absolutely elusive ryan I don't
know.
I don't know what happened tothat guy?
Yeah, ryan, the absolutelyelusive Ryan, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So anyways, that happened.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
That happened, but then we went on to other things.
Then we go yes, where did we goafter that?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
So after that we went downtown or not downtown, but
to the French Quarter wherethere is much music, like
legitimately good place calledpreservation hall, where you pay
10 bucks and you just sit andyou listen to these jazz players
just rip and, like you know,the drums are going, the piano's
going and you're just sittingand listening for as long as you
(22:37):
want.
I don't even think there's abar there, it's just, it's just
you and enjoying music.
It's like old cool room, yeah,and it feels like where jazz was
born, right, it feels like thisis how I'm supposed to be
listening to this music.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, and for the record, I'm not a fan of jazz.
I don't really care for it much.
My you know I say that mygrandfather was in a jazz band,
my great uncle and stuff, solike I can appreciate it, but
generally speaking, like I'm notgonna listen to jazz on the
radio but being there in thatcity where jazz feels like the
(23:20):
fabric of it, like right.
I felt like we could have satthere all day, and we probably
sat there for a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Marveling at the skill of these musicians.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
And it's.
It's one of these things too,where it's like on the street,
there will be street musiciansand you're like you were the
best person I've ever heard playthat ever?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, yeah, like that kind of thing.
So a place, pats, pats Malo,pats McCoy I don't remember the
name and it's where thehurricane was invented.
Hurricane is a very fruitydrink that New Orleans is famous
for.
So we're like, hey, let's getsome hurricanes.
Sure, of course we are.
So we got some hurricanes.
Then we're walking around theum, walking around New Orleans,
(24:00):
and as we're walking around NewOrleans we uh see a sign that
says dollar Jägermeister shots.
And we're like, sure For a buck.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, we're having fun.
You know we're in BourbonStreet, new Orleans at night.
We're a couple of young guys,we're like sure, let's Okay.
I remember also there was we'dbe walking around and there
would be like a building andthen another building and a gap
that was maybe four feet widebetween the buildings, and
shoved in between the buildingsthere would be just like a
(24:33):
little stand that would sellthese test tubes of stuff.
And I want to say it was likejet fuel for like a dollar.
We're like well, let's try whatjet fuel tastes like.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And we're like whatever, try what jet fuel
tastes like and we're like sure,like it's just a little test
tube.
We're just walking around neworleans, yeah, enjoying
listening to music, uh, havingfun and trying jet fuel,
jadermeister shots.
Then we sit down at this otherbar and there is just this
incredible guitar player,another jazz band, and they're
just going.
Well, it was really fun andwe're listening this guy was.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
He was a big fella, I do remember that huge man it
was like going into country bearjamboree back in the day at
disneyland.
It was the big bear that'ssitting and you're like that
bear hasn't moved for 30 yearsand he's, and that guy, I think
just lived in that chair, justlike I don't know if there was a
(25:27):
chair under him or what he wason, but like he was a fixture,
like an animatronic bear exactlysitting on this tiny stage.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But my gosh, he just ripped, shredding the guitar
just, and it's like that thingwhere you're just saying of,
like I heard jimmy hendrix wouldput on this guitar before he
put his pants on every day.
That's why it was so good, buthe would just constantly have
his guitar on and he was justnoodling around.
It's like this guy just alwayshad a guitar in his lap just
playing.
Well, they want to break atsome point and then there's a
(25:55):
sign a little above them Dollarshots while band is on the break
.
So everyone doesn, and so we'relike a buck.
So notice the theme hereEverything's a dollar.
Probably now, after inflation,it's probably $5 now, but then a
dollar, a dollar, a dollar.
We're like dollar, dollar,dollar.
We're sitting, we're enjoyingthe music and then I don't
(26:16):
remember which one of us it is.
First I kind of think it wasyou, but maybe it was me.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yes, I distinctly remember this we stand up.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
To the bathroom and we're like uh-oh, Dollar shots
make it hard to walk in astraight line to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah so.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I remember where I was standing or sitting.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
We were like directly in front of the band.
Let's say that the band andwhere we were sitting was like
on the left side and the door tothe bathroom was more on the
right side.
And I remember getting up andwe must have been sitting there
for a while.
So we felt totally fine and Igot up and I started.
I saw where the door was to thebathroom and I just kept
(26:55):
turning my head further andfurther to the right, as my body
kept going further and furtherto the left.
I'm like oh no, the floor istilted.
I can't stop myself, but I'mjust going in this diagonal line
away from the place that I wantto be and I'm like something
has happened to my body that Icannot control.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And I am not in the place that I intended to be and
I'm like I am going, Meanwhilethe band who is on break.
The guy did not leave, he juststopped playing, but he's
sitting in his chair and I'mlike looking at him as I'm
getting closer to him, like Imight run into you and I have no
control over this.
First, you would not be thefirst, sir.
(27:34):
Yep, this is any white kid fromthe city.
Yeah, he's seen many of us no,but it definitely.
It surprised both of us so much, I think, because I it was just
like a little here, a littlethere, a little here, a little
there, and then we sat downenjoying this music and it was
like everything was justpercolating right in our bodies
(27:56):
and we're like oh, I think bothof us were.
We're like, yeah, we, we shouldprobably go back to the hotel
now.
Oh man, we, we stayed out alittle bit longer but then we
went back to the hotel and Iremember the same thing.
We had to drive or go on alittle like trolley and we were
kind of like I don't think ourhotel is in the best
neighborhood as we got closerand it was like late.
(28:16):
We're like, huh, well, let'sjust get inside and we'll
probably be okay.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
We'll probably be okay and we'll probably be fine.
I another thing that I rememberabout that night is it wasn't
it wasn't mardi gras or anything, so the crowds weren't huge,
but there were people around andthere were people like throwing
the beads off of the, the topfloors or whatever.
Um, you know, pg, don't worryeverybody we didn't see anything
.
But um, I remember there's likethis one building and they were
throwing the beads off,probably to try to get people in
(28:46):
, and we're like, oh cool,they're throwing necklaces.
This is a traditional thing,let's see if we could.
And I remember there was a guywho's like hey, I got like 10
necklaces and he and I look overat him and his face is just
bleeding because he's just likesitting there getting pelted
with these beads from above andthey're just smacking him in the
(29:06):
face because he's not likecatching him, like yeah, it's
time to go.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
We gotta get out of here after a certain time, like
it is just getting sloppy downthere.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
So yeah, that was I kind of remember that too.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And that was the time like we started going.
We, yeah, got on our littletrain and we're like, okay, okay
, let's get back.
And we got back, but that was areally it was fun.
It was really fun, it was agreat way to, I think, be in the
city and, yeah, just have areally good time.
So when did that have beenDecember?
So we're like, yeah, we're notduring Mardi Gras season or
anything, but it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
No, it was cool.
I mean just to see thosebuildings.
Like we said, it's definitelyone of those cities you got to
put on your map.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Oh yeah, and we had Cafe Du Monde.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, cafe Du Monde which is home of the beignets
and the chicory coffee.
So I think we got some of thatto take back.
I don't know if somebody wonthat state, if we were still
doing that at the time, becauseI feel like we brought a lot of.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
We definitely yeah, I made them at home yeah, for my
parents, and that was kind offun.
Um yeah, chicory coffee is good.
The beignets are delicious,just you know, fried dough ball
with with powdered sugar, again,like, of course, it's going to
be good.
That that's well.
How can you, how can you missthat?
They serve.
They're open 24 hours a day,365 days a year, though.
That's their thing, right.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh, is that their thing?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
That's their thing.
They're always there.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And it was just like a nice outdoor sort of cafe.
Get your thing, you sit outsideand there's music all around in
this old square and yeah, justa very charming place to be,
yeah absolutely, it's awonderful city, wonderful city,
wonderful place to be.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
We had a good time there, but only one night, only
one night in New Orleans.
And then our trip had tocontinue, and continue into the
great state of Texas.
There we go, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what else T-X's?
There we go.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, you know what else Never mind.
No, well, okay.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Now, I've already spilled the beans.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
As we're driving.
One thing I remember about NewOrleans is the road in and out.
Of.
It is mostly a bridge over justwater and swamp Fascinating.
It's called the Boy.
I think it's called Okay.
Oh yeah, all right, one littletidbit and an extra for the road
.
Take it to go.
You are fast, yeah, bye, see ya.
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day 2024.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's right.
Today, as we record is November5th, november 5th, november 5th
.
We don't know who our nextpresident is, yet we don't.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But I will say as is said on the sign of my church I
hate to ruin the ending, buteverything will be okay, and it
will so, wherever you are whenyou listen to this whoever won,
don't worry, it's all going tobe okay.
Jesus is thrown, he's on thethrone and the world will
continue to spin.
So yes, we all just might getto have a little quicker than we
(01:32):
thought is.
Well, you guys in the city oforange, you might?
I like us.
We're going to live on the waterlike water world, kevin Costner
.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I like to quote the psalmist who said it's the end
of the world as we know it, butI feel fine.
Oh, I feel fine.
Okay, that's the takeaway REMMichael Stipe, what a great poet
.
Psalm 151.
(02:01):
The poem of REM.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, but good music, I don't listen to them enough
and then, like you do, you'relike there's some solid tunes,
yeah yeah, that was a time.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That was an era of music where, like, what, what
even genre would like, Iwouldn't call that rock and roll
.
What, what is no?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
but everybody puts it like I've heard it said college
rock.
I don't know what that means.
Is that what that is?
It's like I think so.
I think they're like the ep'veheard it said college rock.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I don't know what that means.
Is that what that is?
I?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
think so.
I think they're like theepitome of a college rock band,
Like this kind of funkyguitar-driven that probably
checks out.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I went and saw Counting Crows over the summer.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
A little college rock-y, but they're more
mainstream.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, there's like Toad the Wet Sprocket.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
They opened for them.
That's yeah, there's like Toadthe Wet Sprocket, they open for
them and like all these sort oflike they were played on the
rock stations, but they're notlike rock and roll.
No, like Weezer has some of that.
I have a memory and we'll havesome memories of Scott today on
the show of me and my daddriving out somewhere to like
(03:03):
Riverside or somewhere to seeREM.
And it was a spontaneous thing,I was into them and my dad
probably didn't make it becausethe freaking 91 was so bad.
So it was like at some point.
My dad's like, well, I don'tthink we're going to make it.
I was like, and honestly Idon't even feel that this is
(03:24):
probably something that's goodto remember.
As a parent, like as a 42 yearold, I honestly don't feel
disappointed.
It was just kind of cool.
We tried, oh, that's cool, youknow.
Like I wasn't like and I don'tlook back at it and be like, oh,
I wish we had actually seen it,but it's like that was kind of
fun, like to try to jump in thecar and make it out there.
You know, and and maybe I knewon the way, like this is
(03:46):
unrealistic.
And Dad's like let's try Backin the day when you didn't
really know things untilnewspaper.
What REM is playing thatTonight, one night only.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Doors at 7.
And it's 5 545 after all.
The 91 headed east Will surelymade it jump in the LeBaron,
(04:08):
exactly, lebaron, solid car tooksome promenades in the.
LeBaron.
Oh man, it was classy, it surewas.
Is that a white leather?
Interior it was definitelyleather, it was like red, I
don't know, I remember theoutside was a maroon color, the
(04:30):
outside was a dark maroon.
Yeah, my dad had a ToyotaCorolla and we got in the Toyota
Corolla to go to MongolianBarbecue, which don't eat enough
.
The more Mongolian Barbecueshould be involved in our lives.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
right, the big walk up by Michael's off of Anza,
where it ends going up we wouldgo to the one on Hawthorne and
Torrance Boulevard across fromthe Albertsons.
Across from the Albertsons yes,that's like right where I live.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yes, right there, across you guys drove all the
way down Anza.
But yeah, right there, mandolyBar, across you guys drove all
the way down amza.
But yet, right there, mcdonaldbarber to you and the on the
drive there the seat broke mydad, the seat no longer set up,
just straight back and so we puta two by four.
We put a two by four in theseat so it would sit up and
drove and at that we leavemcdonald barber to you.
(05:21):
We walk next door to to theChrysler dealership and that
night my dad buys a ChryslerLeBaron convertible.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
No way.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yes, we're on the freeway driving and I'm sure, as
an adult, I'm sure there weremarriage conversations happening
before they let this car startto go.
This is bad.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
A last straw?
Yeah, just like that.
That's good we're leavingTallahassee.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
The book.
Hasn't Andrew stoppeddocumenting?
So now we're on to straightmemories.
We left our friends behind, ourwonderful compound of love and
Jesus-y time behind, and weheaded straight to the city of
sin.
No, not Las.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Vegas?
That'd be too far.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Drive the other way, the southern version of it, new
Orleans, go on.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
See, I like how you say that I was going to, but I
feel a little bit insecure aboutjust like going for it and
saying New Orleans, oh yeah.
I feel like an imposter, so Ijust have to say it like a total
tool and be like New.
Orleans New.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Orleans.
That was a good radio list.
New Orleans, the city thatsometimes floods because it's
below sea level.
Ah, true facts.
How many times have you been toNew Orleans since that?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Um, I don't know if I've been back since then, oh,
really Okay, no, I don't know ifI've been back since.
Oh really, okay.
No, I don't think I have.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Oh bummer, it's a fun , it's a fun city, it's the same
.
I feel like it's a three, threeday city where, like, if I'm
there more than three days, I'ma little bit like itchy kind of
advantage in that regards to me.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But right, it's a cool city, it's a cool city yeah
, it's one's one of those citiesyou should go there.
Oh for sure, yeah for sure, nodoubt, go see it before the
levees break and it's gone.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Again, again, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Again.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Below sea level.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's one of those I do think there was.
At one point we were walkingaround some of the historical
areas and you see like a shipgoing down the river.
Yes and it walking around someof the historical areas and you
see like a ship going down theriver and it's above you and
you're like yes, this is unusual.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, unusual, yeah, thick all the time.
So I went I want to say two,but it may have been three, but
I would feel more confidentsaying two to a Mardi Gras and
we would go.
And if Mardi Gras, outside oflike the French Quarter, is much
more family friendly?
And so I built these laddersand you have a seat.
(07:50):
You have to put a seat on topof the ladder.
It was kind of like the MardiGras thing and then the kids
would sit in the ladder seat soit was like all around them and
they'd have like a thing acrosstheir belly so they could sit on
top of the ladder safely.
And then people throw in beadsand you would have your kid up
there and you'd be standingbehind them trying to catch all
the beads off of the thing.
What?
Yes, there's a type in mardigras ladder seat and you will
(08:19):
see exactly what I'm talkingabout, because once you see it
you'll know what I mean.
And until I had seen it I hadnever thought about it.
But boy is it cool.
And so you put it on a six footladder and then your kids sit
there and you stand behind themon the ladder and you're
catching beads in the face.
(08:40):
You know shots.
Um.
So yeah, it is, it was reallyfun and so we did that.
Uh, I think twice, maybe threetimes.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh, this guy put wheels on his, so he could wheel
it.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
There's some people, they do it, they come, do it up,
like we had to drive them fromBirmingham.
I built one for our friends too, because I was building them.
I'm like, oh, mine's only two,and so I built one for our
friends, so we had we had two ofthem and I think we gave them
(09:22):
parade.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
If you're a kid, you're above everything I know
I'm like this.
This has a lot of applicationsright, why isn't this more of a
thing?
Yeah, rise above the crowdexactly.
Bring your own stadium seatingexactly.
Oh my gosh, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I feel like this is an opportunity for a a business
hustle here, scott did he putwheels on the top so you could
just carry it from the back andthen like yes it, I haven't seen
some of those.
Yeah, it's interesting.
It's one of those things that'slike where else could?
We do this I mean, it's notlike rose parade yeah, yeah rose
parade uh veterans day paradedown towards boulevard and it's
(09:50):
probably not gonna let you takea.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, they're probably not gonna let you pull
a ladder into disneyland.
No, but that's probably out?
Yeah, that would be oh manpeople that would catch on quick
too.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, oh, people be like with the ladder ladders up
all day.
What the ladder, what thatdisney would mass produce them
you need to try to buy childrento be bad.
You know that took a weirdspiral.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So, um, yeah, so so new orleans, let's talk about,
tell us, let's, let's talk aboutit.
Um, we've already establishedit's a delta, that's sinking
down and they have to build upthe levees.
So that's that's something.
But the buildings, the cryptsare above ground.
Because of that, you can't digdown because it'll just be
(10:34):
watery.
So that's why all the gravesare above ground, right?
Yep, this is sort of thatquintessential old wrought iron
and big oak trees with with theSpanish moss, similar to what we
saw in Savannah.
Savannah is kind of like adifferent version of New Orleans
no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Orleans yeah, it has.
It has an energy about it too.
I feel there's a veryparticular New Orleans energy.
The food is very good in NewOrleans, Definitely a place that
you'd want to go and get somedelicious food, which we'll talk
about in a sec.
Again, we are now staying inhotels because we don't have a
(11:14):
pubertank.
We have gotten hotels by lindaand she is, uh, getting us
hotels in different cities.
So we decide, hey, come in neworleans, let's stay a night
there.
I feel like it was one night,maybe it was two, I think it was
one, I think it was just onenight, but maybe we got there
early because it's not that fardrive.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, probably wasn't that far of a drive from
tallahassee, so we just wentthere, stayed the night at some
hotel, but we um I was tellingscott as we were thinking about
this I think we first had lunchwhen we got there, at popeyes
chicken, which, oh man, popeyes,I don't know what your go-to is
, but mine.
(11:54):
So there was a popeyes nearwhere I used to work in pasadena
, so I'd sneak up there anytimeI drove in and not take the
train and I would get like Ithink it was like three strips
or five strips, but the the keyfor me was the mardi gras
mustard dipping sauce.
Oh, that's good it's so good.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
The cajun fries too.
Right like those are.
The cajun fries are good, butthey also have like jambalaya
which or basically like rice andbeans not to bring up a super
controversial topic on electionday, but like what is your go to
chicken sandwich?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I never did end up trying the popeyes chicken
sandwich.
I've never had shut your, shutyour mouth.
No, I never did it.
I think because it was such ahype.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It's still around.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I know so they just built one here in Orange, but I
haven't been there.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
What are you doing Talking to me?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
They built one in Buena Park, which that's where
we go to church and that's wheremy father-in-law and
sister-in-law and brother-in-lawlive, and so I went there one
day and I was so excited aboutit I was like Popeye's this is
great, I was there by myself.
So I'm like I can just getwhatever I want and go.
And man, it was the worstPopeye's experience I had ever
(13:06):
had and they're like yeah, Idon't know what it is.
There's no, there's neveranybody here and they got and it
was like not, it was not good,but yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Go to your Popeye's close by.
The chicken sandwich is so good, is it better?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Is it better than Chick-fil-A I?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
feel like it's better .
I know Really Some people madat me for saying that right now,
but it's so now.
I haven't had it probably in ayear.
But it is so good and it's likejuicy and it's the right kind
of breading and it's just theynailed it, they nailed it?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Does it have a pickle on it?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, two, three yeah .
Speaker 2 (13:49):
The thing that irritates me about these
conversations is.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I feel like all of them are good Right?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Oh, I thought you meant this conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm like are you, but are we?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
going?
Are you saying that the thiswhole thing, this whole podcast,
all these conversations overthe last year have irritated you
?
Okay, the chicken sandwichconversation.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, got it.
I look forward to theseconversations.
No, thank goodness, the chickensandwich, because it's like
saying, like whoa, what's yourfavorite donut Like?
Let Like, whoa, what's yourfavorite donut Like?
Let's start already that donutsare delicious, right?
So, like the floor of donuts isabove Brussels sprouts, right,
(14:25):
most vegetables.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Well, here's the thing, though.
Yes, tell me, I hear you, butin the mix is also like the
McDonaldald's chicken sandwichand the wendy's chicken sandwich
now, which I I'm not gonna likethey're fine that's what I mean
.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They're fine.
You're not like, oh, bummer, Ihad a mcdonald's chicken
sandwich, like, okay, it wasfine, I'm full, I didn't hate it
.
But we're not talking aboutlike a bad food.
There's not.
You know what I mean.
There's not like a horribleversion where you're like,
bummed, that that was what youhad for lunch.
You could say, oh, I wish wehad a Popeye's sandwich, I wish
that Chick-fil-A didn't sandwichagreed, but still, you're
(15:03):
already in the world of likechicken sandwiches.
What about the?
Have you seen the commercials?
Or is this just a Redondo thingfor the?
The chicken Big Mac, chicken,big mac.
Oh, I have seen that that lookshorrendous.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's a must try you have.
No, no, I would.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I can't wait to hear what you think of it, but I will
chicken patties yes, I saw apicture that was like oh no, no
way I agree with you.
Even the McDonald'sadvertisement pictures don't
look great, which is not goodfor the actual sandwich, right?
Because if you can't pull thatoff you're already in trouble.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm like who's asking for?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
this.
That's a good question.
Who is asking for?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
that?
Are they getting all therequests?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Boy, if you just made a chicken, big Mac, they're
like we can't deny it anymoreguys, the Big Mac has been going
great for a long time.
Okay, so Popeyes.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So we're at Popeyes.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I want to say something else about Popeyes
Moving into Birmingham.
Our first stop was PopeyesChicken when I moved to
Birmingham On our way in.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
We're like on the outsk.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Birmingham On our way in.
Really it was like, oh, here'sa Popeye's.
So I go up to the Popeye'sorder Emily's at the booth and
I'm like, okay, what do we want?
And I go to order and theperson takes my order and then
repeats something back to methat I have absolutely no idea
what they're saying.
And I said what was that?
Oh, that I have absolutely noidea what they're saying.
(16:36):
And she goes Spice and Red.
And I said, uh-huh, what wasthat man?
Oh, yep, Uh-huh.
And she goes Spice and Red.
And I said, oh, and I haven'thad enough Popeyes to even know
the context.
So I'm just looking at her andshe's looking at me like what's
your answer?
And the person behind, oh,regular.
(17:01):
And I go back to the table andI look at emily and I'm like
we're not gonna make it we'renot gonna make it in the south.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This was a bad, this is bad choice.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
We're, oh, we don't understand them and they don't
understand us from california.
This is bad.
I'm not.
I can't even order popeye'schicken at the store.
Oh, no how am I gonna get?
The person had such a thicksouthern accent and they just
balled these words into thiscobbler of phrasing and I was
like, oh, we're dead meat, emily, and she was splashing, so that
(17:35):
is still a special memory ofPopeye's oh, and I just don't
know.
I'm like yes, yes, everything.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That sounds good, thank you, you, I'll take one of
each.
Yeah, what's the soup of theday?
Oh, the soup du jour soundsgood, I'll have that yes, please
, yeah, okay.
So we're at popeyes and duo, soso we're at popeyes, we're just
eating our lunch going oh,louisiana fresh.
This is good you know and uh,all of a sudden it must it must
(18:06):
have been like school got out,because all of a sudden there
was like a rush of kids and Ithink I was thinking like, oh no
, they're gonna come into thispopeyes, and it's, there's gonna
be a ruckus just all these kids, you know, but all of a sudden
they're like oh running a lot ofthem.
I'm like what is happening?
And then a rumble breaks out.
Rumble, a rumble Between thejets and the sharks.
(18:28):
Yes, just like that Startedlike walking around with their
switchblades and snapping ateach other.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
No, just a street fight amongst local New Orleans
kids and I thought don't feelcomfortable.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So what did Scott Andrew do when the rumble
happened?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, we just continued nope, we stayed
solidly in the safety of thePopeye's chicken and hoped that
it would go away.
Oh look, oh look, a rumble.
But I felt out of place.
Yes, I felt uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I would say.
You and I are not rumblers.
I have wrestled for high school, but that's the closest I've
ever gotten to being in a fight.
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
That's not even, no, somepeople.
That's to be disputed.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Have you ever gotten in a fight as a kid?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
No, that's what I mean.
The closest I got was Well,there's a really nice one
neighbor kid.
I jumped on his back one timeand I was like I was like you
know eight or nine and me and myfriend once on the same block
decided to just like box, bareknuckle box for fun, because
this is a great idea as a 11year old, right.
So we put our footballmouthpieces in and just went to
(19:41):
town.
Oh, but we weren't mad, itwasn't like.
It was like hey, you're bought,you know.
Yeah, my jaw hurt for likethree days.
He was like two years olderthan me, I think.
Oh dude, I just got liketattooed across the face yeah so
that was the like.
That's the extent of the fightI've been.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think in middle school maybe it was elementary
school it was me.
Yep, I don't know if you couldreally call it that, let me.
Let me paint a little picturethough for you.
Paint a word picture for thelistener who doesn't know me or
didn't know me as a child?
Not a big guy.
No, not a big guy.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
No, you're put it this way class picture.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I'm always in the front row.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
You're 4, 11, 95 pounds in high school, like
you're showing up dripping wet.
Yeah, as a sophomore, as asophomore yeah, like love it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, no, uh, freshman year I walked into high
school at 78 pounds.
This is great, no joke.
So this is much before that.
So I I was I think it wasprobably, I don't know, middle
school, fifth grade, somethinglike that.
So I was.
I was little, always number twoin sports because number two is
(20:52):
the smallest jersey.
Right, like that, that's me.
Well, there was another guy whowas like we were competing for
the smallest guy award and Imust have made him mad or
something, because we're likewalking out of school at the end
and he came running up and liketried to tackle me or something
, oh, oh, and I think he was madat me and I don't remember if I
(21:13):
fell to the ground or shovedhim or like we kind of like went
around and then people werelike no, no, no, little guys,
stop it.
And like that was pretty muchit and they lifted you up and
held you in the air by.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
They both kicked us up by the backs of our shirts.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Let me down.
Let me at him.
I'll hurt you, come on.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I'll hurt you.
I will, I'll hit you One day.
Put up your tubes.
Come on, mighty Mouse, go aftereach other.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And they probably forced us, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Let's say Ryanyan, okay, that sounds like a right,
though we had a lot of right, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
They probably they probably like, forced us to hug
each other afterwards you knowwork it out, and we should have
plotted together too.
Let's get those big guys let'sget our guys.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
That's exact revenge together.
We will wait one half of one ofthem.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That'll work out well I don't know what happened to
that guy.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah ryan, the absolutely elusive ryan I don't
know.
I don't know what happened tothat guy?
Yeah, ryan, the absolutelyelusive Ryan, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So anyways, that happened.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
That happened, but then we went on to other things.
Then we go yes, where did we goafter that?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
So after that we went downtown or not downtown, but
to the French Quarter wherethere is much music, like
legitimately good place calledpreservation hall, where you pay
10 bucks and you just sit andyou listen to these jazz players
just rip and, like you know,the drums are going, the piano's
going and you're just sittingand listening for as long as you
(22:37):
want.
I don't even think there's abar there, it's just, it's just
you and enjoying music.
It's like old cool room, yeah,and it feels like where jazz was
born, right, it feels like thisis how I'm supposed to be
listening to this music.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, and for the record, I'm not a fan of jazz.
I don't really care for it much.
My you know I say that mygrandfather was in a jazz band,
my great uncle and stuff, solike I can appreciate it, but
generally speaking, like I'm notgonna listen to jazz on the
radio but being there in thatcity where jazz feels like the
(23:20):
fabric of it, like right.
I felt like we could have satthere all day, and we probably
sat there for a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Marveling at the skill of these musicians.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
And it's.
It's one of these things too,where it's like on the street,
there will be street musiciansand you're like you were the
best person I've ever heard playthat ever?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, yeah, like that kind of thing.
So a place, pats, pats Malo,pats McCoy I don't remember the
name and it's where thehurricane was invented.
Hurricane is a very fruitydrink that New Orleans is famous
for.
So we're like, hey, let's getsome hurricanes.
Sure, of course we are.
So we got some hurricanes.
Then we're walking around theum, walking around New Orleans,
(24:00):
and as we're walking around NewOrleans we uh see a sign that
says dollar Jägermeister shots.
And we're like, sure For a buck.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, we're having fun.
You know we're in BourbonStreet, new Orleans at night.
We're a couple of young guys,we're like sure, let's Okay.
I remember also there was we'dbe walking around and there
would be like a building andthen another building and a gap
that was maybe four feet widebetween the buildings, and
shoved in between the buildingsthere would be just like a
(24:33):
little stand that would sellthese test tubes of stuff.
And I want to say it was likejet fuel for like a dollar.
We're like well, let's try whatjet fuel tastes like.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And we're like whatever, try what jet fuel
tastes like and we're like sure,like it's just a little test
tube.
We're just walking around neworleans, yeah, enjoying
listening to music, uh, havingfun and trying jet fuel,
jadermeister shots.
Then we sit down at this otherbar and there is just this
incredible guitar player,another jazz band, and they're
just going.
Well, it was really fun andwe're listening this guy was.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
He was a big fella, I do remember that huge man it
was like going into country bearjamboree back in the day at
disneyland.
It was the big bear that'ssitting and you're like that
bear hasn't moved for 30 yearsand he's, and that guy, I think
just lived in that chair, justlike I don't know if there was a
(25:27):
chair under him or what he wason, but like he was a fixture,
like an animatronic bear exactlysitting on this tiny stage.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But my gosh, he just ripped, shredding the guitar
just, and it's like that thingwhere you're just saying of,
like I heard jimmy hendrix wouldput on this guitar before he
put his pants on every day.
That's why it was so good, buthe would just constantly have
his guitar on and he was justnoodling around.
It's like this guy just alwayshad a guitar in his lap just
playing.
Well, they want to break atsome point and then there's a
(25:55):
sign a little above them Dollarshots while band is on the break
.
So everyone doesn, and so we'relike a buck.
So notice the theme hereEverything's a dollar.
Probably now, after inflation,it's probably $5 now, but then a
dollar, a dollar, a dollar.
We're like dollar, dollar,dollar.
We're sitting, we're enjoyingthe music and then I don't
(26:16):
remember which one of us it is.
First I kind of think it wasyou, but maybe it was me.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yes, I distinctly remember this we stand up.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
To the bathroom and we're like uh-oh, Dollar shots
make it hard to walk in astraight line to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah so.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I remember where I was standing or sitting.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
We were like directly in front of the band.
Let's say that the band andwhere we were sitting was like
on the left side and the door tothe bathroom was more on the
right side.
And I remember getting up andwe must have been sitting there
for a while.
So we felt totally fine and Igot up and I started.
I saw where the door was to thebathroom and I just kept
(26:55):
turning my head further andfurther to the right, as my body
kept going further and furtherto the left.
I'm like oh no, the floor istilted.
I can't stop myself, but I'mjust going in this diagonal line
away from the place that I wantto be and I'm like something
has happened to my body that Icannot control.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And I am not in the place that I intended to be and
I'm like I am going, Meanwhilethe band who is on break.
The guy did not leave, he juststopped playing, but he's
sitting in his chair and I'mlike looking at him as I'm
getting closer to him, like Imight run into you and I have no
control over this.
First, you would not be thefirst, sir.
(27:34):
Yep, this is any white kid fromthe city.
Yeah, he's seen many of us no,but it definitely.
It surprised both of us so much, I think, because I it was just
like a little here, a littlethere, a little here, a little
there, and then we sat downenjoying this music and it was
like everything was justpercolating right in our bodies
(27:56):
and we're like oh, I think bothof us were.
We're like, yeah, we, we shouldprobably go back to the hotel
now.
Oh man, we, we stayed out alittle bit longer but then we
went back to the hotel and Iremember the same thing.
We had to drive or go on alittle like trolley and we were
kind of like I don't think ourhotel is in the best
neighborhood as we got closerand it was like late.
(28:16):
We're like, huh, well, let'sjust get inside and we'll
probably be okay.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
We'll probably be okay and we'll probably be fine.
I another thing that I rememberabout that night is it wasn't
it wasn't mardi gras or anything, so the crowds weren't huge,
but there were people around andthere were people like throwing
the beads off of the, the topfloors or whatever.
Um, you know, pg, don't worryeverybody we didn't see anything
.
But um, I remember there's likethis one building and they were
throwing the beads off,probably to try to get people in
(28:46):
, and we're like, oh cool,they're throwing necklaces.
This is a traditional thing,let's see if we could.
And I remember there was a guywho's like hey, I got like 10
necklaces and he and I look overat him and his face is just
bleeding because he's just likesitting there getting pelted
with these beads from above andthey're just smacking him in the
(29:06):
face because he's not likecatching him, like yeah, it's
time to go.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
We gotta get out of here after a certain time, like
it is just getting sloppy downthere.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
So yeah, that was I kind of remember that too.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And that was the time like we started going.
We, yeah, got on our littletrain and we're like, okay, okay
, let's get back.
And we got back, but that was areally it was fun.
It was really fun, it was agreat way to, I think, be in the
city and, yeah, just have areally good time.
So when did that have beenDecember?
So we're like, yeah, we're notduring Mardi Gras season or
anything, but it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
No, it was cool.
I mean just to see thosebuildings.
Like we said, it's definitelyone of those cities you got to
put on your map.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Oh yeah, and we had Cafe Du Monde.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, cafe Du Monde which is home of the beignets
and the chicory coffee.
So I think we got some of thatto take back.
I don't know if somebody wonthat state, if we were still
doing that at the time, becauseI feel like we brought a lot of.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
We definitely yeah, I made them at home yeah, for my
parents, and that was kind offun.
Um yeah, chicory coffee is good.
The beignets are delicious,just you know, fried dough ball
with with powdered sugar, again,like, of course, it's going to
be good.
That that's well.
How can you, how can you missthat?
They serve.
They're open 24 hours a day,365 days a year, though.
That's their thing, right.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh, is that their thing?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
That's their thing.
They're always there.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And it was just like a nice outdoor sort of cafe.
Get your thing, you sit outsideand there's music all around in
this old square and yeah, justa very charming place to be,
yeah absolutely, it's awonderful city, wonderful city,
wonderful place to be.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
We had a good time there, but only one night, only
one night in New Orleans.
And then our trip had tocontinue, and continue into the
great state of Texas.
There we go, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what else T-X's?
There we go.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, you know what else Never mind.
No, well, okay.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Now, I've already spilled the beans.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
As we're driving.
One thing I remember about NewOrleans is the road in and out.
Of.
It is mostly a bridge over justwater and swamp Fascinating.
It's called the Boy.
I think it's called Okay.
Oh yeah, all right, one littletidbit and an extra for the road
.
Take it to go.
You are fast, yeah, bye, see ya.
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