November 13, 2024 • 27 mins
What happens when two friends hit the road without a crucial RV feature? Join Scott Hawkins and Andrew Gaer as they recount their whimsical road trip escapades, which led them from Walmart parking lots to less-than-glamorous motels. From crafting a ridiculous song about a "pooper tank" explosion to dreaming up a stage musical with Lin-Manuel Miranda or AI, our tales are guaranteed to amuse. We'll share how our knack for funny tunes just might outshine our attempts at romantic songwriting, with plenty of laughs along the way.
Venturing further, we chat about the surprising satisfaction found in being average—like mastering wakeboarding just enough to impress those who haven’t tried it. Society's obsession with comparing ourselves to the best often undermines our unique skills, and we discuss how recognizing our strengths can lead to fulfillment. And of course, our journey wouldn't be complete without a stop in San Antonio, where we reflect on the Alamo's storied past and soak up the enchanting charm of the Riverwalk. Get ready for an episode full of unexpected twists and thoughtful reflections.
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome to the best 20 minutes of your week where
you get to hang out with myself,scott Hawkins and this
average-looking fellow overthere, andrew Gare.
Because we journey in Texastoday and go on a road trip
serving churches, sleep in aWalmart parking lot Kings of the
Road podcast.
We are glad to be together,glad to be on this journey
(00:46):
together as we continue headingtowards home, because we are
minus a pubertane, so we'resleeping now in hotels, actually
, because hard to go to thebathroom when you don't have a
bathroom with you anymore.
And, yeah, journeying back home.
So, as you've heard before,didn't taken a turn in the Keys
when we got hit from behind.
(01:07):
And then we are.
We left Tallahassee, spent thenight in New Orleans, new
Orleans over to Texas.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So, hey, andrew, hey Scott, nice recap.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Thanks for that.
Just wanted to make sureeveryone knew, because they
would be.
They're wondering wait a second, you're not sleeping in
Walmarts anymore.
You're not sleeping in churches?
No, we're not.
Why Can't, Can't?
No pooper tank, no pooper tank.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
How important a pooper tank was, shockingly
important.
You take that for granted,don't you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You do as you go down the road and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
From our very first time leaving that we were unsure
, if we were going to use thecooper tank mid-road.
And then we definitely did, andwe just, like this is did and
now, glorious, definitely can't,yeah.
So so we left new orleans andwe had a place lined up I don't
know if this is one that my momlined up for us, because I
recall this place was kind of ahole in the wall like roadside
motel.
Yeah, yeah, I, I think we musthave left new orleans somewhat
(02:14):
late or whatever, and we're likewe just need to get on the road
.
Yeah, and we probably had areservation in san antonio for
the next day or something.
So we we're like, where's astop.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
This was more of just a stop, I think.
Yeah, I don't think this was a.
I don't have any memoriesexcept kind of like what you
just said.
I actually think this is wherewe may have wrote some music in
the hotel room, at the OrangeTets' hotel room, we got our
guitars and I think we wrotethat classic song about the
(02:46):
pooper tank explosion thathappened and um, remember that
song.
I wish.
I wish we had see nowadays we'dhave an iphone to record it too
and like.
But we were just dinking aroundwith the guitars oh, I forgot
all about that song.
I wonder about the.
We made him into a character,the guy by the side of the road.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So it was some great lines that we had about him, but
it was you're right, oh man, Ishould go dig out like an old
guitar case and see if that ohdude in there somewhere or
something.
Yeah, see that's.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's one of those things where it's like, yeah,
the GPS, yeah, we didn't havethe internet in the same way we
do now, but also just theability to grab your iPhone, hit
record.
We definitely would have donethat for some of these songs, or
we would have put them on.
Facebook, or we would have putthem on like right but nothing.
It just exists in our memory.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I wish, I wish Scott, that we had the talents and
capabilities to be people whocould write musicals.
I know, because I think thisroad trip would make an
incredible stage production.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It should, Should we?
Should we afford it toLin-Manuel Miranda?
He is very talented at this.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Probably we could just.
Yeah, maybe we could just.
Can you put a podcast in a chat?
Gpt, we could just like uploadall 55 episodes.
Oh, there we go and be likemake a musical and like in about
40 to 50 seconds.
It's like here's the script andall the songs this is very good
Amazing.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
AI.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That would be.
Yeah.
The Poopertank song, the I'mJust a Little Guy, yes there's a
lot.
We could write songs aboutSouth Dakota.
That would be very bleak, itwould be amazing, it would be a
smash hit.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It would be very bleak, it would be amazing, it
would be a smash hit it would be, I would be absolutely in awe
and I think it would do verywell.
Yeah, we, it was fun.
Those were fun songs.
And when I was talking aboutproposing to Emily I was like,
oh, I should, I should write hera song, that'll be so nice.
(05:05):
And I tried a couple of timesand I realized I can't write
serious romantic songs, yeah,yeah.
So I was like I can't writeserious romantic songs.
All of my songs actually turninto like something like so much
fun and it's like, oh, thatdoesn't sound right.
And then the words are like alla sudden, something about you
(05:25):
know, your whatever, and I waslike this doesn't sound good.
I, I just read ridiculous songs.
So that skill that taylor has,taylor swift or, um, jason moran
, all the people have it passedright over me, jump yeah, I so
desire that, that talent, butit's just not in there for me.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I don't know.
I do like to believe and maybethis is my ridiculous optimism
and you know sort of way of oflife of like, yeah, I could
probably figure this out too.
I feel like, if I put enoughtime into it, like I probably
could do it, but I'm just nevergonna do it.
Yeah, I, I don't't know.
(06:04):
I think we could be composers.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
That might be like the backflip on the wakeboard.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh yeah, I never even got close to that.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Where we get to a certain level, where we're like
that's fun, yeah, oh, that's agood.
But anybody else is like, ohlook, they can get up.
Oh look, they can turn that istrue.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I've tried I don't know how many times to do a flip
of any sorts on a wakeboard,and I can do a like a
three-quarter flip pretty good,yeah, but I've never gotten any
past the worst time to flip todo.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's very painful.
Three-quarter to half a flip isthe worst.
So I have a question for youand I.
This is because orange tets isokay, we stayed there, we'll go,
san antonio said, are the?
There are some things in lifethat I feel like, um, if you're
okay, so the I'll start to theend point.
What percent of like talent onthe weight board do you think
(06:55):
you are better than 20 of thepopulation, better than 40 of
the population?
You know what I mean, like yourskill level, and let's just say
your best, your best, run rightyou had some good runs.
When we had third day you hadone that was really good.
You were really good.
You were in the group Because Igo ahead, so what do you think?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We're talking the whole population.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yes, People who have been on boats, not like, let's
talk random, like.
African people that's a keypoint like okay, so I'm saying
people who aren't, they're up,pulled behind the boat, but
they're just like boat boaters.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
they've gone on boats , they've done that okay, people
who have been on ski boat typeof boats, yes, whether they've
wakeboarded or not right, oh,I'm top top 10%.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Right.
I think that's you're right.
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah.
So I think I think the abilityto get up and cut back and forth
and be pretty comfortable anddo a little bit of a jump Yep.
I think that's more than 90% ofpeople can do.
That's One because they'venever done it or it's awkward.
Yeah, and the people?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
who can do like the real cool tricks, like that's
top one percent stuff.
That's right.
That's exactly what I'mthinking I was.
That's exactly my point.
I think there must be a lotmore things in life at that
where, if you can just kind ofdo it pretty well not even
pretty well, but do it averagelywell you are better than most
people at that thing because,well, this has been my economic
or this, this has been myacademic plan my whole life it's
(08:28):
just I was never shooting to bethe best.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I was shooting to be better than most, and it has
worked well it's kind of it'sit's kind of like that thing
where, if there is a bear, youdon't have to run faster than
the bear, you just have to runfaster than the other guy who's
running from the bear fasterthan me?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
no, that's, and I I wonder if this is undervalued in
the world, like I wonder if weundervalue the fact that,
because the fact that this istrue, I think this is a true
statement and we, though, welook at the top one percent and
we're like well, I'm never gonnado it.
(09:10):
And two backflips and that youknow I guess I'm not good, but
most people are like, oh, youcan get up on a weight board and
like confidently cut and uh,like do jumps and like do a 180,
and you know what I mean.
Like wow, like most people inthe boat when you and I wait for
, they're like that that'spretty good.
I think partly for me.
They're like I expected thatI'd not expect that of you,
(09:31):
chubby man, to be able to do.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's pretty good for a man of your build and
stature.
I was not expecting that yeah,I don't think I'd go so far, as
people in the boat are like, oh,he's pretty good.
I think they're more like no, Ithink so I thought he would be
better, having been a guy who'sbeen around boats his whole life
.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
This is sort of disappointing.
I see that I think you're doingthe thing that we do Am.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I doing that, am I falling into the?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
trap.
I think you are.
I think you're falling into thetrap.
I think most people are likewow, well done.
Whereas we're like, oh, we'renot that dude, well no, but I
think they've also seen the pros, the top 10%.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So then when they see it live, they're like this guy
sucks, but it's like actually no, they haven't.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
When have they seen the pros?
Well, I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm talking about anything at this point.
Like, hey, I'm going to playyou a song around the campfire,
while you're terrible at theguitar well compared to like
john mayer sure, sure, right.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But you see, I don't think people say that, I think
people go oh, he can play songsaround the guitar.
That's where most people live,where they're like I wish I
could grab a guitar and play asong around the guitar with a
chord chart, whereas we go oh,I'm not, john, may.
I can't shred, I can't justlead.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So okay, so I think I'm hearing what you're saying.
Is that one of the things thatwe have to tap into more is
other people's poor reflectionsof themselves too, right, right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
We need to really capitalize on how badly people
feel about themselves, becauseif we do that, then what they're
really looking at is they'relike, well, he might not be the
best, but I could never even dothat, gee how sad for me.
Ah right, I can't play a single.
I don't even know what Gee.
How sad for me.
Ah right, I can't play a single.
I don't even know what a chordis.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes, yes, exactly.
Wish I could be like that, WishI could just bust out the
guitar and play.
We know it's four chord songs,but they're like that's pretty.
I guess I should.
Maybe the and this is all likelistener this could be a more
refined thought in a year.
So I think we're just in babysteps.
(11:44):
So don't if you're hearing this, you have ideas to add be like
oh well, what about this?
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So well, I don't buy.
Now Most people have understood, at least for me, my my in the
scale of thoughts being refined.
I'm more like the crude oilthat is just pumped out of the
earth after being there formillions of years.
I love it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But I think the thing that we're all part of this
truth is everybody spends timewishing they were up Right, okay
, and I think that that's weneed to recognize that and I
think take some satisfaction inlike where you are Right.
Like, hey, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I'm never going to crush the.
In fact, I have fully gottenthere with my snowboarding
ability.
Like most mountains, I'm goingto get down without falling.
May not go as fast as some, butI'm going to get down without
falling.
May not go as fast as some, maynot be, but I'm gonna.
I'm gonna be able to shred that.
Mar now jumps, jumps, though.
Yeah, I've realized right thathitting big jumps.
(12:53):
That's not in my life plan somebirds are flightless well, also
the amount of pain that I needto experience to get good at
hitting the large jumps and now,at my age, it's not worth it.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's just not worth it.
That ship has sailed long ago.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That ship has sailed and so I'm very satisfied with
where I am.
And most people when they sailwith me, they're like oh, that
was pretty good, because againI'm cruising with you, we're
having fun, we're keeping up,we're doing the mountain, I'm
having a great time, I would say, with the exception being the
park, there is no NAR, that Icannot shred on a mountain.
(13:29):
Exactly that's what I mean, andwe had a great time and I hope
we snowboard again this winter.
Because, it's really fun.
Yeah, it's really fun to dothat, like, just do that right
and be like, oh, that was great,like that was really fun yeah,
I like this, I like this I'mfeeling so good about myself.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
You know what else I'm good at I wonder.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
This is why I live in my world, though of like I
people are always like how doyou walk around this thing?
Because this is I think, thisis where I think, like I wasn't
yeah that's true that's a goodplace to be.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Let this be the inspiration of today's episode.
Hey, you're probably betterthan a lot of other people.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
This is a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, you might suck, but there's a lot of people who
suck way more than you, or youmight be average and you might
never get to doing the airrailing and enjoy that, but
that's okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That top 10, 15, 20% is just flat unattainable.
So, exactly, don't set the bartoo high.
Is that what we're saying?
We're?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I don't think we're saying that.
I think there's more.
No, because I do think.
You see, I think that wherethis thought started was with
the like those guys are the onepercent yeah, they're like, or
even the point one percent right, that's what we're holding
ourselves right it's like well,I should hold myself in
basketball.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
To toby bryant is like is there the other side of
this?
And I'm thinking all of thesudden of the australian break
dancer in the olympics, wherethere was too many people around
her being like you're?
Killing it you're killing itray gun.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
She's like, yeah, I'm going to the olympics and
that's like I haven't been ableto get the fullness of that
story is that?
Did she actually think she waskilling it or did she?
I've heard two sides of onethat she just thought this was a
great way to go to the olympicsand be in the olympics and she
knew she wasn't great.
But you know what she's like.
I'm in in the Olympics, which Ihave a lot of respect for that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So so I don't know.
It could be.
I don't know either, but thatreminded me I watched a movie
recently on an airplane aboutthis kid who want, who became a
Olympic ski jumper.
Okay, I cannot think of thename of it, but it was such a
great movie because this kidfrom a young age was just so
determined to make it to theOlympics and he was like what
(15:43):
sport, what sport?
And he tried this sport, Nopecouldn't do that Tried, that
sport couldn't do that Triedthat sport couldn't do that.
Finally, and he grew up in likeEngland and he finally somehow
found downhill skiing and gotpretty good but couldn't make it
and then found some loopholethat the British team didn't
have an Olympic ski jumper andall you needed to qualify was to
(16:04):
do and it was so dang funnyHugh Jackman's in it.
Great movie, great movie andtrue story he really did it, so
I'll have to come up with thename.
Is that her?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
story.
I really don't know.
I don't know, I don't know.
It's a great idea if it is Likeher story.
I, I really don't know, but Idon't know that, I don't know.
It's a great idea if it is likeyou know what?
I want to be olympics.
I want to go and walk theparade.
I want to get the outfit.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's like that would be incredible if that's what is
your life like if that was herthing?
Though she, her, her pr teamdidn't do a good job of
conveying that, because mostpeople were pretty much like oh
yeah, pretty harsh pretty harsh.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, it was pretty it was, I saw.
It's so funny because I saw oneof the nfl players did a
touchdown celebration, did someof her moves, oh, sweet they put
it next to each other, so liketo lay down it was pretty good,
I was like that's a yes, okay,so orange texas all right, so
orange texas, which is funnybecause I live in orange
(17:01):
california, now California now.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Orange Texas is not much to write about.
It's just between New Orleansand San Antonio.
I think it's the first townonage of pictures of Orange
Texas, and one of the picturesis welcome to Texas.
I think it is the first stopcoming from east to west in
(17:24):
Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So we got into Orange , then we go down to San Antonio
.
San Antonio is only well,actually, I was going to say
only, but there's two things.
It's well known for Oneda-da-da-da-da listener the
Alamo, the.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Alamo Number two da the.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Alamo, the Riverwalk, the Riverwalk, and that's
probably it.
Maybe the San Antonio Spurs, ifyou really like basketball.
Sure, sure, yeah.
So we did both of those things.
Of course we did.
You have to because you're atthe San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So, scott, tell me your impression of the Alamo.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I the Alamo I.
So I I had been there before,which, oh yeah, is a little bit
gonna shade my impression.
I think I've been thereobviously three times.
I think I went there with Emilyonce too.
But the Alamo is is.
I think it's less impressivethan you think of it as it's got
(18:19):
a little bit of that PlymouthRock vibe that we spoke about A
little bit, Not as much, thoughNot as much.
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It is there.
The story of the Alamo iswhat's big.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And there may be one of those things where the amount
of pride that San Antonianshave in the I would maybe say
Texans in general have in theAlamo, to what the Alamo
actually is, is a little.
There's a gap there.
Because you know, texas ingeneral thinks I talked about
our just last conversationanything Texas to them is better
(18:52):
than anything else in the world, right?
So like, even though it's theAlamo, you're like okay, it's a
mission, like building and davycrock was here and they, you
know, for they fought and theythey lost, which is right, like
they didn't win that battle, ohyeah no, that's the whole story.
They all died all of them andthen you say remember the alamo
(19:16):
and you're like this is so.
This place is a great defeat,you know you held on for a long
time you held on.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It was a great defeat , but it was the american
defiance that, yeah, that makesit such a legend.
Right is, they were surroundedbut they dug in and they
defended themselves and all thelong as they could all that was
that the indians that werefighting against them basically
no, the Mexicans.
The Mexicans Just starved themout.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, they were coming up, so that was a fort so
that they could keep Texas, andI think it's there that we
learned that Texas is the oneflag that can fly at the same
height as the US flag, becausethey were their own country for
(20:04):
like a year, maybe, maybe it's amonth, there's some amount of
time that they're their owncountry for because America
didn't want them as a state,because it would offset the
number of slave states and freestates, and so America didn't
let them into the Union, and sobecause that time the Texas flag
(20:27):
and the American flag can flyat the same height, I'm pretty
sure that that's like 90%, true?
Are you sure that that's like?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
90%, true?
Well, I don't have any ideabecause I wasn't listening to
you.
I was trying to look up the sofor you, the listener.
I hope that was a very engagingwalkthrough.
Yes, it was Thank you, you tendto be right about these things,
so that's why I didn't feel theneed to Correct me.
I appreciate that, correct you.
Yeah, there's far too much'tfeel the need to Correct me.
(20:59):
I appreciate that, correct you.
Yeah, there's far too much toread here.
To try to summarize this, lookit up, listener.
Look it up.
What's the Okay?
Here's the thing I think it isa place worth visiting because
one just the historicalsignificance and how famous it
(21:20):
is.
It's cool to be in a place thathas that kind of story behind
it.
Um so, when in san antoniovisit the alamo, it is not large
and it's kind of in a squarewith tall buildings around it,
which doesn't help eitherbecause it just sort of makes it
feel a little bit smaller.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yes, yeah, it's in the middle of like a downtown
area.
Yeah, so it doesn't quite havethat.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, but it's definitely cool to go see it
because it's yeah, it's amission and us in California we
visit missions all the time.
It's a fourth grade project, solike that's what we do.
So maybe in texas those are,yeah, go mud buildings, um, and
that's all the history we havehere in california, so like it's
all we've got is these exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
It has a very southwest vibe, for sure.
I mean, the building has a verysouthwest vibe yeah, I remember
like very thick walls.
Yeah, it's cool, it's stillstanding right, like one of
those things oh yeah oh, this iscool that.
And then the Riverwalk is veryneat because you can just walk
along and it's relaxing Anytimeyou're walking along water it's
a pretty good day.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But it's unlike anything else.
I mean, it's sort of it'salmost as if they built a place
where you could go and shop andeat inside of it's a.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Small World.
I knew you were going to use aDisneyland reference, because it
has a very Disney feel to it,doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, it's like you're inside but you're outside
and there's all these treesthat overhang it and lights.
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's awesome.
It's funny because the numberof times that I I like you're at
the the sequoias, the greatsequoia forest, or you're going
to the grand canyon, these hugerocks, you're like oh it's like
disneyland cars ride.
You're like oh, no, no, no, nocars is like this, oh, this is
the real and I feel like, yeah,especially as people from
(23:18):
southern california where disneyis, disney is such a permanent
feature in our lives, oh, it isterrible yeah.
Oh yeah, oh, this is like aCalifornia adventure.
No, no, no, they saw this first.
God made this first.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You're in the swamps of Louisiana.
Well, they made these to lookjust like the Pirates of the
Caribbean ride.
Yeah, we probably should havementioned that when we went to
New Orleans.
This looks just like NewOrleans Square at Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Wow, wow, how did they do it.
Well done New Orleans.
Yeah, disney really nails it.
Yeah, we flip it, flip it.
Yeah, oh, this is the replica,I see, oh right, it's better
than the original, though it'sbetter because there's a
bathroom right there and churrosfor sale right over there,
(24:04):
souvenirs plenty, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
So san antonio, um, I think san antonio is a much, a
much bigger city than I tend tothink of it.
Right like it is, it's a majormetropolitan area, it's right
smack dab.
Well, it's kind of southcentral.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Texas.
But, it's also in the middle of, if I remember correctly, the
Austin-Dallas driving zone, soyou're kind of like three hours
from each, so you have, and thennot far outside that you have
some really small towns.
But yeah, it's in that kind ofarea and it's about San
Antonio-Dallas, texas turns intothe same until you hit los
(24:42):
angeles yeah, because when we,when we got into orange texas,
just in that, you're stillgetting kind of that louisiana
swamp kind of thing, and as yougo, san antonio, it's very much
just flat desert yep.
and then all of a sudden you'relike now we just stay on a 10
until the ocean.
Yeah, Because it's all the same.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, oh no.
So San Antonio is actually theSouthern most city in that line.
So it goes San Antonio, Austin,Dallas.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Dallas straight up, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Houston is directly to the East.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And Houston's closer to the east.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Houston's closer to the ocean?
Yes, it is.
So we came.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, we went pretty close, so we would have driven
through Houston.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I didn't realize that it's all kind of that line, and
then that line is kind of,hopefully, the most livable part
of Texas, and then there's WestTexas where there's not a lot
of water and there's a lot ofwater and yeah there's a lot of
deserts that you need to survive.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I'm looking at the map here and, yes, that line of
San Antonio, austin, dallas,it's colored green.
This isn't like an aerial image, it's just like a map.
And then as soon as you get outof San Antonio, those cities
and you start to head furtherwest, it they just change the
color to brown, which is soaccurate, exactly, and I think
that's kind of what I think ofit, as it's like that's where
people are like we can live here.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Stop, nope, nope, no more.
You can't go any farther thanthis.
Or else it's very, verydifficult to live, yeah, and so,
yeah, because there's water,because obviously there's trees,
there's water Because obviouslythere's trees, so there's
rivers, there's the AntonioRiver, there's little things,
and then all of a sudden,there's none of that and it's
cacti and dirt, lots of dirt,which is where we're heading.
But did you know, and you mightnot know this, but El Paso,
(26:29):
where we're headed, is one ofthe best kept secrets in America
.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So that one guy said but don't tell anybody.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Okay, don't tell anybody because I don't want it
to grow at all, because ifpeople start moving in then it
won't be the best temple to seeit'll totally ruin what they've
got going on there in beautifulEl Paso.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Tune in next time where we talk about how amazing
El Paso Texas is, which meansdoesn't it just mean like eh,
pass?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I think so, and I was wondering if you were talking
about the salsa, because that isamazing, but the city itself.
Yeah, see you next week nexttime bye.
Welcome to the best 20 minutes of your week where
you get to hang out with myself,scott Hawkins and this
average-looking fellow overthere, andrew Gare.
Because we journey in Texastoday and go on a road trip
serving churches, sleep in aWalmart parking lot Kings of the
Road podcast.
We are glad to be together,glad to be on this journey
(00:46):
together as we continue headingtowards home, because we are
minus a pubertane, so we'resleeping now in hotels, actually
, because hard to go to thebathroom when you don't have a
bathroom with you anymore.
And, yeah, journeying back home.
So, as you've heard before,didn't taken a turn in the Keys
when we got hit from behind.
(01:07):
And then we are.
We left Tallahassee, spent thenight in New Orleans, new
Orleans over to Texas.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So, hey, andrew, hey Scott, nice recap.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Thanks for that.
Just wanted to make sureeveryone knew, because they
would be.
They're wondering wait a second, you're not sleeping in
Walmarts anymore.
You're not sleeping in churches?
No, we're not.
Why Can't, Can't?
No pooper tank, no pooper tank.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
How important a pooper tank was, shockingly
important.
You take that for granted,don't you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You do as you go down the road and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
From our very first time leaving that we were unsure
, if we were going to use thecooper tank mid-road.
And then we definitely did, andwe just, like this is did and
now, glorious, definitely can't,yeah.
So so we left new orleans andwe had a place lined up I don't
know if this is one that my momlined up for us, because I
recall this place was kind of ahole in the wall like roadside
motel.
Yeah, yeah, I, I think we musthave left new orleans somewhat
(02:14):
late or whatever, and we're likewe just need to get on the road
.
Yeah, and we probably had areservation in san antonio for
the next day or something.
So we we're like, where's astop.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
This was more of just a stop, I think.
Yeah, I don't think this was a.
I don't have any memoriesexcept kind of like what you
just said.
I actually think this is wherewe may have wrote some music in
the hotel room, at the OrangeTets' hotel room, we got our
guitars and I think we wrotethat classic song about the
(02:46):
pooper tank explosion thathappened and um, remember that
song.
I wish.
I wish we had see nowadays we'dhave an iphone to record it too
and like.
But we were just dinking aroundwith the guitars oh, I forgot
all about that song.
I wonder about the.
We made him into a character,the guy by the side of the road.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So it was some great lines that we had about him, but
it was you're right, oh man, Ishould go dig out like an old
guitar case and see if that ohdude in there somewhere or
something.
Yeah, see that's.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's one of those things where it's like, yeah,
the GPS, yeah, we didn't havethe internet in the same way we
do now, but also just theability to grab your iPhone, hit
record.
We definitely would have donethat for some of these songs, or
we would have put them on.
Facebook, or we would have putthem on like right but nothing.
It just exists in our memory.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I wish, I wish Scott, that we had the talents and
capabilities to be people whocould write musicals.
I know, because I think thisroad trip would make an
incredible stage production.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It should, Should we?
Should we afford it toLin-Manuel Miranda?
He is very talented at this.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Probably we could just.
Yeah, maybe we could just.
Can you put a podcast in a chat?
Gpt, we could just like uploadall 55 episodes.
Oh, there we go and be likemake a musical and like in about
40 to 50 seconds.
It's like here's the script andall the songs this is very good
Amazing.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
AI.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That would be.
Yeah.
The Poopertank song, the I'mJust a Little Guy, yes there's a
lot.
We could write songs aboutSouth Dakota.
That would be very bleak, itwould be amazing, it would be a
smash hit.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
It would be very bleak, it would be amazing, it
would be a smash hit it would be, I would be absolutely in awe
and I think it would do verywell.
Yeah, we, it was fun.
Those were fun songs.
And when I was talking aboutproposing to Emily I was like,
oh, I should, I should write hera song, that'll be so nice.
(05:05):
And I tried a couple of timesand I realized I can't write
serious romantic songs, yeah,yeah.
So I was like I can't writeserious romantic songs.
All of my songs actually turninto like something like so much
fun and it's like, oh, thatdoesn't sound right.
And then the words are like alla sudden, something about you
(05:25):
know, your whatever, and I waslike this doesn't sound good.
I, I just read ridiculous songs.
So that skill that taylor has,taylor swift or, um, jason moran
, all the people have it passedright over me, jump yeah, I so
desire that, that talent, butit's just not in there for me.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I don't know.
I do like to believe and maybethis is my ridiculous optimism
and you know sort of way of oflife of like, yeah, I could
probably figure this out too.
I feel like, if I put enoughtime into it, like I probably
could do it, but I'm just nevergonna do it.
Yeah, I, I don't't know.
(06:04):
I think we could be composers.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
That might be like the backflip on the wakeboard.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh yeah, I never even got close to that.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Where we get to a certain level, where we're like
that's fun, yeah, oh, that's agood.
But anybody else is like, ohlook, they can get up.
Oh look, they can turn that istrue.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I've tried I don't know how many times to do a flip
of any sorts on a wakeboard,and I can do a like a
three-quarter flip pretty good,yeah, but I've never gotten any
past the worst time to flip todo.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's very painful.
Three-quarter to half a flip isthe worst.
So I have a question for youand I.
This is because orange tets isokay, we stayed there, we'll go,
san antonio said, are the?
There are some things in lifethat I feel like, um, if you're
okay, so the I'll start to theend point.
What percent of like talent onthe weight board do you think
(06:55):
you are better than 20 of thepopulation, better than 40 of
the population?
You know what I mean, like yourskill level, and let's just say
your best, your best, run rightyou had some good runs.
When we had third day you hadone that was really good.
You were really good.
You were in the group Because Igo ahead, so what do you think?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
We're talking the whole population.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yes, People who have been on boats, not like, let's
talk random, like.
African people that's a keypoint like okay, so I'm saying
people who aren't, they're up,pulled behind the boat, but
they're just like boat boaters.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
they've gone on boats , they've done that okay, people
who have been on ski boat typeof boats, yes, whether they've
wakeboarded or not right, oh,I'm top top 10%.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Right.
I think that's you're right.
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah.
So I think I think the abilityto get up and cut back and forth
and be pretty comfortable anddo a little bit of a jump Yep.
I think that's more than 90% ofpeople can do.
That's One because they'venever done it or it's awkward.
Yeah, and the people?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
who can do like the real cool tricks, like that's
top one percent stuff.
That's right.
That's exactly what I'mthinking I was.
That's exactly my point.
I think there must be a lotmore things in life at that
where, if you can just kind ofdo it pretty well not even
pretty well, but do it averagelywell you are better than most
people at that thing because,well, this has been my economic
or this, this has been myacademic plan my whole life it's
(08:28):
just I was never shooting to bethe best.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I was shooting to be better than most, and it has
worked well it's kind of it'sit's kind of like that thing
where, if there is a bear, youdon't have to run faster than
the bear, you just have to runfaster than the other guy who's
running from the bear fasterthan me?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
no, that's, and I I wonder if this is undervalued in
the world, like I wonder if weundervalue the fact that,
because the fact that this istrue, I think this is a true
statement and we, though, welook at the top one percent and
we're like well, I'm never gonnado it.
(09:10):
And two backflips and that youknow I guess I'm not good, but
most people are like, oh, youcan get up on a weight board and
like confidently cut and uh,like do jumps and like do a 180,
and you know what I mean.
Like wow, like most people inthe boat when you and I wait for
, they're like that that'spretty good.
I think partly for me.
They're like I expected thatI'd not expect that of you,
(09:31):
chubby man, to be able to do.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's pretty good for a man of your build and
stature.
I was not expecting that yeah,I don't think I'd go so far, as
people in the boat are like, oh,he's pretty good.
I think they're more like no, Ithink so I thought he would be
better, having been a guy who'sbeen around boats his whole life
.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
This is sort of disappointing.
I see that I think you're doingthe thing that we do Am.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I doing that, am I falling into the?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
trap.
I think you are.
I think you're falling into thetrap.
I think most people are likewow, well done.
Whereas we're like, oh, we'renot that dude, well no, but I
think they've also seen the pros, the top 10%.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So then when they see it live, they're like this guy
sucks, but it's like actually no, they haven't.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
When have they seen the pros?
Well, I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm talking about anything at this point.
Like, hey, I'm going to playyou a song around the campfire,
while you're terrible at theguitar well compared to like
john mayer sure, sure, right.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But you see, I don't think people say that, I think
people go oh, he can play songsaround the guitar.
That's where most people live,where they're like I wish I
could grab a guitar and play asong around the guitar with a
chord chart, whereas we go oh,I'm not, john, may.
I can't shred, I can't justlead.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So okay, so I think I'm hearing what you're saying.
Is that one of the things thatwe have to tap into more is
other people's poor reflectionsof themselves too, right, right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
We need to really capitalize on how badly people
feel about themselves, becauseif we do that, then what they're
really looking at is they'relike, well, he might not be the
best, but I could never even dothat, gee how sad for me.
Ah right, I can't play a single.
I don't even know what Gee.
How sad for me.
Ah right, I can't play a single.
I don't even know what a chordis.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes, yes, exactly.
Wish I could be like that, WishI could just bust out the
guitar and play.
We know it's four chord songs,but they're like that's pretty.
I guess I should.
Maybe the and this is all likelistener this could be a more
refined thought in a year.
So I think we're just in babysteps.
(11:44):
So don't if you're hearing this, you have ideas to add be like
oh well, what about this?
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So well, I don't buy.
Now Most people have understood, at least for me, my my in the
scale of thoughts being refined.
I'm more like the crude oilthat is just pumped out of the
earth after being there formillions of years.
I love it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But I think the thing that we're all part of this
truth is everybody spends timewishing they were up Right, okay
, and I think that that's weneed to recognize that and I
think take some satisfaction inlike where you are Right.
Like, hey, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I'm never going to crush the.
In fact, I have fully gottenthere with my snowboarding
ability.
Like most mountains, I'm goingto get down without falling.
May not go as fast as some, butI'm going to get down without
falling.
May not go as fast as some, maynot be, but I'm gonna.
I'm gonna be able to shred that.
Mar now jumps, jumps, though.
Yeah, I've realized right thathitting big jumps.
(12:53):
That's not in my life plan somebirds are flightless well, also
the amount of pain that I needto experience to get good at
hitting the large jumps and now,at my age, it's not worth it.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's just not worth it.
That ship has sailed long ago.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That ship has sailed and so I'm very satisfied with
where I am.
And most people when they sailwith me, they're like oh, that
was pretty good, because againI'm cruising with you, we're
having fun, we're keeping up,we're doing the mountain, I'm
having a great time, I would say, with the exception being the
park, there is no NAR, that Icannot shred on a mountain.
(13:29):
Exactly that's what I mean, andwe had a great time and I hope
we snowboard again this winter.
Because, it's really fun.
Yeah, it's really fun to dothat, like, just do that right
and be like, oh, that was great,like that was really fun yeah,
I like this, I like this I'mfeeling so good about myself.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
You know what else I'm good at I wonder.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
This is why I live in my world, though of like I
people are always like how doyou walk around this thing?
Because this is I think, thisis where I think, like I wasn't
yeah that's true that's a goodplace to be.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Let this be the inspiration of today's episode.
Hey, you're probably betterthan a lot of other people.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
This is a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, you might suck, but there's a lot of people who
suck way more than you, or youmight be average and you might
never get to doing the airrailing and enjoy that, but
that's okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That top 10, 15, 20% is just flat unattainable.
So, exactly, don't set the bartoo high.
Is that what we're saying?
We're?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I don't think we're saying that.
I think there's more.
No, because I do think.
You see, I think that wherethis thought started was with
the like those guys are the onepercent yeah, they're like, or
even the point one percent right, that's what we're holding
ourselves right it's like well,I should hold myself in
basketball.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
To toby bryant is like is there the other side of
this?
And I'm thinking all of thesudden of the australian break
dancer in the olympics, wherethere was too many people around
her being like you're?
Killing it you're killing itray gun.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
She's like, yeah, I'm going to the olympics and
that's like I haven't been ableto get the fullness of that
story is that?
Did she actually think she waskilling it or did she?
I've heard two sides of onethat she just thought this was a
great way to go to the olympicsand be in the olympics and she
knew she wasn't great.
But you know what she's like.
I'm in in the Olympics, which Ihave a lot of respect for that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So so I don't know.
It could be.
I don't know either, but thatreminded me I watched a movie
recently on an airplane aboutthis kid who want, who became a
Olympic ski jumper.
Okay, I cannot think of thename of it, but it was such a
great movie because this kidfrom a young age was just so
determined to make it to theOlympics and he was like what
(15:43):
sport, what sport?
And he tried this sport, Nopecouldn't do that Tried, that
sport couldn't do that Triedthat sport couldn't do that.
Finally, and he grew up in likeEngland and he finally somehow
found downhill skiing and gotpretty good but couldn't make it
and then found some loopholethat the British team didn't
have an Olympic ski jumper andall you needed to qualify was to
(16:04):
do and it was so dang funnyHugh Jackman's in it.
Great movie, great movie andtrue story he really did it, so
I'll have to come up with thename.
Is that her?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
story.
I really don't know.
I don't know, I don't know.
It's a great idea if it is Likeher story.
I, I really don't know, but Idon't know that, I don't know.
It's a great idea if it is likeyou know what?
I want to be olympics.
I want to go and walk theparade.
I want to get the outfit.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's like that would be incredible if that's what is
your life like if that was herthing?
Though she, her, her pr teamdidn't do a good job of
conveying that, because mostpeople were pretty much like oh
yeah, pretty harsh pretty harsh.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, it was pretty it was, I saw.
It's so funny because I saw oneof the nfl players did a
touchdown celebration, did someof her moves, oh, sweet they put
it next to each other, so liketo lay down it was pretty good,
I was like that's a yes, okay,so orange texas all right, so
orange texas, which is funnybecause I live in orange
(17:01):
california, now California now.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Orange Texas is not much to write about.
It's just between New Orleansand San Antonio.
I think it's the first townonage of pictures of Orange
Texas, and one of the picturesis welcome to Texas.
I think it is the first stopcoming from east to west in
(17:24):
Texas.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So we got into Orange , then we go down to San Antonio
.
San Antonio is only well,actually, I was going to say
only, but there's two things.
It's well known for Oneda-da-da-da-da listener the
Alamo, the.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Alamo Number two da the.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Alamo, the Riverwalk, the Riverwalk, and that's
probably it.
Maybe the San Antonio Spurs, ifyou really like basketball.
Sure, sure, yeah.
So we did both of those things.
Of course we did.
You have to because you're atthe San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So, scott, tell me your impression of the Alamo.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I the Alamo I.
So I I had been there before,which, oh yeah, is a little bit
gonna shade my impression.
I think I've been thereobviously three times.
I think I went there with Emilyonce too.
But the Alamo is is.
I think it's less impressivethan you think of it as it's got
(18:19):
a little bit of that PlymouthRock vibe that we spoke about A
little bit, Not as much, thoughNot as much.
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It is there.
The story of the Alamo iswhat's big.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And there may be one of those things where the amount
of pride that San Antonianshave in the I would maybe say
Texans in general have in theAlamo, to what the Alamo
actually is, is a little.
There's a gap there.
Because you know, texas ingeneral thinks I talked about
our just last conversationanything Texas to them is better
(18:52):
than anything else in the world, right?
So like, even though it's theAlamo, you're like okay, it's a
mission, like building and davycrock was here and they, you
know, for they fought and theythey lost, which is right, like
they didn't win that battle, ohyeah no, that's the whole story.
They all died all of them andthen you say remember the alamo
(19:16):
and you're like this is so.
This place is a great defeat,you know you held on for a long
time you held on.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It was a great defeat , but it was the american
defiance that, yeah, that makesit such a legend.
Right is, they were surroundedbut they dug in and they
defended themselves and all thelong as they could all that was
that the indians that werefighting against them basically
no, the Mexicans.
The Mexicans Just starved themout.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, they were coming up, so that was a fort so
that they could keep Texas, andI think it's there that we
learned that Texas is the oneflag that can fly at the same
height as the US flag, becausethey were their own country for
(20:04):
like a year, maybe, maybe it's amonth, there's some amount of
time that they're their owncountry for because America
didn't want them as a state,because it would offset the
number of slave states and freestates, and so America didn't
let them into the Union, and sobecause that time the Texas flag
(20:27):
and the American flag can flyat the same height, I'm pretty
sure that that's like 90%, true?
Are you sure that that's like?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
90%, true?
Well, I don't have any ideabecause I wasn't listening to
you.
I was trying to look up the sofor you, the listener.
I hope that was a very engagingwalkthrough.
Yes, it was Thank you, you tendto be right about these things,
so that's why I didn't feel theneed to Correct me.
I appreciate that, correct you.
Yeah, there's far too much'tfeel the need to Correct me.
(20:59):
I appreciate that, correct you.
Yeah, there's far too much toread here.
To try to summarize this, lookit up, listener.
Look it up.
What's the Okay?
Here's the thing I think it isa place worth visiting because
one just the historicalsignificance and how famous it
(21:20):
is.
It's cool to be in a place thathas that kind of story behind
it.
Um so, when in san antoniovisit the alamo, it is not large
and it's kind of in a squarewith tall buildings around it,
which doesn't help eitherbecause it just sort of makes it
feel a little bit smaller.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yes, yeah, it's in the middle of like a downtown
area.
Yeah, so it doesn't quite havethat.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, but it's definitely cool to go see it
because it's yeah, it's amission and us in California we
visit missions all the time.
It's a fourth grade project, solike that's what we do.
So maybe in texas those are,yeah, go mud buildings, um, and
that's all the history we havehere in california, so like it's
all we've got is these exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
It has a very southwest vibe, for sure.
I mean, the building has a verysouthwest vibe yeah, I remember
like very thick walls.
Yeah, it's cool, it's stillstanding right, like one of
those things oh yeah oh, this iscool that.
And then the Riverwalk is veryneat because you can just walk
along and it's relaxing Anytimeyou're walking along water it's
a pretty good day.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But it's unlike anything else.
I mean, it's sort of it'salmost as if they built a place
where you could go and shop andeat inside of it's a.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Small World.
I knew you were going to use aDisneyland reference, because it
has a very Disney feel to it,doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, it's like you're inside but you're outside
and there's all these treesthat overhang it and lights.
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's awesome.
It's funny because the numberof times that I I like you're at
the the sequoias, the greatsequoia forest, or you're going
to the grand canyon, these hugerocks, you're like oh it's like
disneyland cars ride.
You're like oh, no, no, no, nocars is like this, oh, this is
the real and I feel like, yeah,especially as people from
(23:18):
southern california where disneyis, disney is such a permanent
feature in our lives, oh, it isterrible yeah.
Oh yeah, oh, this is like aCalifornia adventure.
No, no, no, they saw this first.
God made this first.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You're in the swamps of Louisiana.
Well, they made these to lookjust like the Pirates of the
Caribbean ride.
Yeah, we probably should havementioned that when we went to
New Orleans.
This looks just like NewOrleans Square at Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Wow, wow, how did they do it.
Well done New Orleans.
Yeah, disney really nails it.
Yeah, we flip it, flip it.
Yeah, oh, this is the replica,I see, oh right, it's better
than the original, though it'sbetter because there's a
bathroom right there and churrosfor sale right over there,
(24:04):
souvenirs plenty, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
So san antonio, um, I think san antonio is a much, a
much bigger city than I tend tothink of it.
Right like it is, it's a majormetropolitan area, it's right
smack dab.
Well, it's kind of southcentral.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Texas.
But, it's also in the middle of, if I remember correctly, the
Austin-Dallas driving zone, soyou're kind of like three hours
from each, so you have, and thennot far outside that you have
some really small towns.
But yeah, it's in that kind ofarea and it's about San
Antonio-Dallas, texas turns intothe same until you hit los
(24:42):
angeles yeah, because when we,when we got into orange texas,
just in that, you're stillgetting kind of that louisiana
swamp kind of thing, and as yougo, san antonio, it's very much
just flat desert yep.
and then all of a sudden you'relike now we just stay on a 10
until the ocean.
Yeah, Because it's all the same.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, oh no.
So San Antonio is actually theSouthern most city in that line.
So it goes San Antonio, Austin,Dallas.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Dallas straight up, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Houston is directly to the East.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And Houston's closer to the east.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Houston's closer to the ocean?
Yes, it is.
So we came.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, we went pretty close, so we would have driven
through Houston.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I didn't realize that it's all kind of that line, and
then that line is kind of,hopefully, the most livable part
of Texas, and then there's WestTexas where there's not a lot
of water and there's a lot ofwater and yeah there's a lot of
deserts that you need to survive.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I'm looking at the map here and, yes, that line of
San Antonio, austin, dallas,it's colored green.
This isn't like an aerial image, it's just like a map.
And then as soon as you get outof San Antonio, those cities
and you start to head furtherwest, it they just change the
color to brown, which is soaccurate, exactly, and I think
that's kind of what I think ofit, as it's like that's where
people are like we can live here.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Stop, nope, nope, no more.
You can't go any farther thanthis.
Or else it's very, verydifficult to live, yeah, and so,
yeah, because there's water,because obviously there's trees,
there's water Because obviouslythere's trees, so there's
rivers, there's the AntonioRiver, there's little things,
and then all of a sudden,there's none of that and it's
cacti and dirt, lots of dirt,which is where we're heading.
But did you know, and you mightnot know this, but El Paso,
(26:29):
where we're headed, is one ofthe best kept secrets in America
.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So that one guy said but don't tell anybody.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Okay, don't tell anybody because I don't want it
to grow at all, because ifpeople start moving in then it
won't be the best temple to seeit'll totally ruin what they've
got going on there in beautifulEl Paso.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Tune in next time where we talk about how amazing
El Paso Texas is, which meansdoesn't it just mean like eh,
pass?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I think so, and I was wondering if you were talking
about the salsa, because that isamazing, but the city itself.
Yeah, see you next week nexttime bye.
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