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June 19, 2025 33 mins

Many small businesses struggle to scale predictably—and Al Guvener lays out exactly how to make growth sustainable.

In this episode, host Bernie Franzgrote (@BernieFranzgrote) and co‑host Wayne Pratt (@Wayne Pratt) chat with Al Guvener from Twelve 7 Ventures, exploring how to move from startup to scale-up with stability and intention.

🧭 Summary

Al dives into the key building blocks of sustainable growth:

  • Creating a predictable revenue model
  • Implementing value-based pricing
  • Using digital marketing to fuel growth
  • Launching loyalty programs that retain customers
  • Adopting a CRM to systemize sales & service
  • Exploring flexible funding like revenue-based financing
  • Keeping company culture intact during scaling
  • Adding a Chief Revenue Officer role when needed
  • Ensuring customer satisfaction to maximize retention

They wrap up with tactical tips for entrepreneurs at every stage—early founders to established SMB owners—on staying agile when markets and conditions shift quickly.

🔑 Key Topics Covered

  • Differences between startup and scale-up phases
  • Building and forecasting predictable revenue
  • Value-based vs cost-plus pricing
  • Digital marketing tools and strategies
  • Designing loyalty programs that boost repeat sales
  • Choosing and deploying a CRM for growth
  • Funding options beyond VC—revenue-based financing
  • Culture management during rapid expansion
  • The value of a Chief Revenue Officer
  • Practical scaling advice across business stages

🎯 Guest Info & Resources

Al Guvener — Phone: +1-613-790-8340 · Email: al@twelve7ventures.ca

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