Knock at the Sky: A Creative Journey with Liz Charlotte Grant and Jeremy Grant

Knock at the Sky: A Creative Journey with Liz Charlotte Grant and Jeremy Grant

From idea to craft to revision to release, each creative process follows a similar path into the world. Take an artistic journey with creative collaborators and life partners, Liz Charlotte Grant (essayist) and Jeremy Grant (visual artist). Liz and Jeremy, two working artists and married collaborators, describe the pains and triumphs of creating their debut book, Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis After Losing Faith in the Bible. Liz wrote literary nonfiction essays and Jeremy made 11 fine art collages. Both the writing and the art of Knock at the Sky have received recognition in their respective industries (reviews in Foreword and Publisher’s Weekly; an award from Contemporary Collage Magazine). In a series of 4 candid conversations, Liz and Jeremy discuss the stages of making - idea, craft, revision, release. And they use their particular creative processes as a guide. Offering humor, sage advice, inspiration, and consolation to their fellow creatives, artists, and art-appreciators, they encourage their listeners to keep making art, offering their own experiences as a guide. No matter how painstaking the process, they believe that making art is the most meaningful way to spend a life. Making art is worth it. /About Liz and Jeremy/ Liz Charlotte Grant is an award-winning essayist who has published in the Huffington Post, Hippocampus, Brevity, Religion News Service, and elsewhere. Her substack, the Empathy List, has twice been nominated for a Webby Award. Jeremy Grant is a multidisciplinary artist who works as a designer and has shown his paper collages, illustrations, assemblages, and sculptures in galleries across the American West.

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February 24, 2025 2 mins

From idea to craft to revision to release, each creative process follows a similar path into the world. Take an artistic journey with creative collaborators and life partners, Liz Charlotte Grant (essayist) and Jeremy Grant (visual artist). 

Liz and Jeremy are two working artists who collaborated on the book project, Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis After Losing Faith in the Bible. And in this podcast series, we follow the ...

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Let's talk about beginnings.

Liz and Jeremy discuss how we find our ideas, begin creative projects, and cultivate our unique writing voice and/or artistic style. We also discuss the fine art collages that precede Chapters 1, 2, and 3 in the book that has inspired this podcast.

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Notes:

See the art (in color) from chapters 1, 2, and 3, and read an edited transcript of the episode at ThEmpathyList.com

Buy the book Knock at the Sky:...

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March 11, 2025 47 mins

Let's get to work--by which we mean, get thyself to the nearest studio/desk to create the work you need to make. 

Jeremy and I are talking about developing your craft…. by so much practice. And we discuss what it really means for each of us to really sit in the chair and put down a first draft and/or a first pass at a collage. Because making art requires sweat!

We talk about how our artistic collaboration as a couple worked in the ...

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March 18, 2025 47 mins

Let's kill our darlings.

Because, as Queen Annie Dillard says, “The path is not the work.” (The Writing Life, Dillard)

Liz and Jeremy discuss the discernment required to weigh feedback - whose matters? And which feedback is a distraction? When does a collaboration become a commission? Jeremy also recalls that time when Liz offered feedback that resulted in trashing and/or dramatic revision of 3 out of 11 of the finished collages fo...

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April 8, 2025 52 mins

Liz and Jeremy discuss the end of the artist process: release. 

This is the very hard task of relinquishing control of your art. How do you decide when the work is done? How do you interact with your audience? What does the art mean, in the end, and who gets to decide what it means (creator or audience)? And how do you make peace with wrong interpretation? And what does the Bible have to do with any of this? (A lot, apparently.)

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