November 1, 2024 • 46 mins
This week we sat down with the author of the Disorderly Conduct series: Jade Greene. Jade has published 2 books in the series with a third on the way.
We wanted to get an inside look on her process and how she can draw inspiration from steamy personal stories to aid in her writing. You DO NOT want to miss this!
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Casey (00:00):
Well, good afternoon, Kummy Bears.
Kari (00:01):
Oh, we haven't used that in forever.
Casey (00:03):
We have not, and we want to try to bring it back.
Kari (00:05):
I think we want to, but it also doesn't go with our
branding anymore.
How we have to take come out.
Casey (00:13):
Does it?
Kari (00:15):
You say you start with gummy bears.
I don't know.
It just got me feeling a certainway, but you know, good news.
We are still working on arebranding, but it's not taking
us away from the show.
Um, if you've.
Been following us online.
You'll notice we've been kind oflike building back our activity
up really working to just dealwith the censorship that we have
at hand and working to Get inthe ass with something different
Casey (00:41):
Kind
Kari (00:42):
of kind of well because I didn't realize I was gonna end
up saying that but anyways, howare you?
Casey (00:48):
I'm good How's your
Kari (00:50):
mouth?
Casey (00:52):
Why do I sound funny?
Kari (00:54):
A little bit.
Casey (00:55):
I need like, I need a pop filter in front of my, oh yeah,
yeah, yeah.
And why do
Kari (01:01):
you sound silly?
Casey (01:02):
I currently have a set of Invisalign in that I just
started yesterday.
Yeah.
Kari (01:09):
Welcome
Casey (01:09):
to the club.
Mouth is feeling toasty.
Kari (01:13):
So, um, I'm sure I've talked about it.
Get or give.
Oh, you keep saying that you'regonna, but yes, he's not They're
very soft, they're very soft.
Um, so I actually went through around of braces about a year ago
and Huge, huge changes, but Ihad to give up on it for a
(01:36):
minute.
It was a lot.
I was getting fricking sick ofit.
And so we had kind of had thislike discussion that, you know
what?
I'm going to restart because youalso wanted to go ahead and get
yours worked on.
So we, uh, went before our tripto Mexico, which we're going to
get to.
Um, we went before, goteverything set up and lit it was
literally like two days after wegot back,
Casey (01:58):
we got them in.
Kari (02:00):
It's cute though.
We we're doing it together.
Casey (02:03):
Yeah.
See my nice smile right now.
Kari (02:05):
I mean they're Invisalign.
You don't really see much.
Casey (02:08):
I feel like mine can be seen.
My teeth look wider right nowthan they have yours.
Kari (02:12):
Yeah, they do.
They do do that.
And I cheated.
Mine are only on the bottom.
They were trying to have me ontop and bottom and I was like,
absolutely not.
I am drawing finger top becausestay on the
Casey (02:21):
subject of giving and getting head with, oh you do
Kari (02:24):
Invisalign, you do like it when I gave you head with
Invisalign in, I mean,
Casey (02:28):
anybody that's ever received a below your partner
has Invisalign in knows.
It's actually quite nice.
Kari (02:34):
It's soft.
Casey (02:35):
It's a lot softer.
Kari (02:36):
It's really soft.
And then for me, like as the onelike giving, it does alter how I
give head too.
Like, I don't know, it's likethis nice little barrier that
you kind of have.
Your
Casey (02:47):
teeth aren't sharp anymore.
Kari (02:49):
I know and my teeth can be pretty fucking sharp.
Casey (02:53):
So I'll be curious to see what it's like to give you head.
Kari (02:55):
Yeah.
Have
Casey (02:56):
you ever given head?
To a woman with Invisalign in
Kari (02:59):
Mm, I don't think so.
They're always out.
I would always take'em out.
Yeah, I would always take'emout.
Wasn't for me, but hey, you knowwhat, with you totally different
situation.
Oh God,
Casey (03:14):
Find out how that works.
I'm just gonna
Kari (03:15):
have to keep these afterwards just to like, it
fulfilled the kink that'screated, baby.
Casey (03:21):
Go get the Invisalign.
Kari (03:22):
Go get those Invisalign for me.
Oh my God.
Anyways.
What else happened in our liveslately?
I
Casey (03:30):
feel like you're leading me on here.
Kari (03:32):
I'm always leading you on.
It's a tease.
Life is a tease.
Uh, we went to Mexico.
We went to Mexico.
It was so much fun.
Oh, we had a fucking blast.
Where are we at?
Uh, elegance, majestic.
Casey (03:46):
Majestic
Kari (03:47):
elegance.
How long do you think it'd throwall these S's out there?
Why do you think I'm having yousay it?
You're doing much better.
You're doing much better.
Until you do that.
I
Casey (04:00):
feel like if I just put on an act, it'll, it'll maybe
help out.
Kari (04:06):
We'll go back and listen to this first time or first
episode with you having men, andthen we'll listen like, you
know, months from now and you'regoing to sound a lot better.
You do get adjusted to it.
I promise.
Um, but anyways, yeah, we wentto a majestic elegance in, in
Cancun.
Um, We were there for what?
Four days.
Yeah.
Four days.
(04:26):
And we didn't, we didn't doshit.
Casey (04:29):
No, this is the first vacation we've been on in years
that didn't revolve around somesort of business training,
marketing training, or seminarsor kids, kids.
This is the first one gone in awhile.
Kari (04:43):
I mean, technically.
You just took all those out,right?
This is only our second triptogether.
Then honestly, like, yes, it is.
This is only our second timebeing together alone.
That did not have to do withbusiness or children or family,
right?
So this was our second time.
(05:03):
And the first time that we went,it really was for our, obviously
our honeymoon, um, and, and itwas an okay time.
It was just, uh, It was, that'swhy I kind of hesitated on
saying it because that istechnically what we did it for,
but it just happened to be fiveyears later.
And then it happened to beduring like COVID.
Casey (05:24):
It was, it was like fall of 2020.
And so the, even the trip,everything was mask on the
plane, mask at the resort, likeCOVID tests.
Nothing was hardly open.
Yeah.
Each was closed cause there wassome fucking, oh my God.
Kari (05:41):
Of all the times for us to fricking go, it was the one time
that you couldn't even go on thewater.
So we were really stuck to just.
The pool and, and, and we, itwas a very, very nice resort.
Don't get me wrong.
Casey (05:55):
Yes.
Kari (05:55):
It was absolutely amazing.
Um, but yeah, we just didn't getto like experience that much,
but we did go on like anexcursion.
And I think that's why I thinkthat's why we decided this time
that we didn't want to do any ofthat.
Casey (06:07):
This time was, I'm going to last on the beach and 30
margaritas
Kari (06:11):
and do, and just do nothing.
Like it was such a good time.
Um, meet
Casey (06:15):
people and hang out.
We met some people.
Kari (06:17):
We did we met we met some really cool people.
Um, we met shots, which fuckthat guy.
Fuck that guy.
Constant.
Casey (06:26):
I think they have the podcast now.
So maybe that was the episode.
Yeah.
Kari (06:30):
And they'll know I'm talking.
I
Casey (06:31):
was the one that was giving everybody shots over and
over and over again.
Look,
Kari (06:35):
I only lost four hours of one day.
And a phone on my charger,plugged into
Casey (06:42):
the wall,
Kari (06:43):
lost it, dude.
I, I, we had a great timethough.
We did stuff in our plunge poolthat we
Casey (06:50):
fucked
Kari (06:51):
everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, including on the
beach.
Oh my God.
We got to fuck on the beach.
It was amazing.
Yeah, because when you go outthere, like all of the like
canopies and the different likebeds and stuff, they remain.
And I was like, okay, sold, butyou walk out there and like,
there's no guards, there's no,like, so it is kind of like
enter at your own risk, butwhatever, I don't give a shit.
(07:11):
We were fine.
And we went into like one atfirst and then.
Like moved over to like thismore like secluded one and it
took us like five seconds ofbeing at that one and we were
fucking and I don't think thatwe even established that we were
going on the beach to have sex.
That was not, we were just goingout there to the beach.
And as soon as we saw the otherone and we laid down, it was
like instantly, we
Casey (07:32):
were going, this is, yeah, but still is that there's
that air of anyone can walk by,which is clearly a turn.
Kari (07:39):
Yeah, I did not mind that at all.
And then it was like there wasprobably going on at the resort
there.
There was, yeah.
There's a big, so we hear likemusic in the background where we
have like these waves going andthen the sky, I mean it was just
black.
And so there's all these stars.
I saw a shooting.
Shooting.
Ooh, that's not good.
That's not good to say.
I saw a shooting star That onewas difficult.
(07:59):
You got it out this way.
I did.
Uh, which is rare for me.
Uh, I, you know, never get tofucking see those.
So it was just a really magical,like night, but it was a great
fuck.
And I don't know, actually, whatdid I say?
I don't get to fucking see them.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know, man.
I don't know, but we, we had areally good time and it was just
(08:20):
a good escape for us to be ableto like recharge.
And we were also like, so oddly.
Yeah.
Connected and on the same page.
It was so weird.
It was so weird.
Casey (08:32):
It was like, because of how on the same page we were
about everything we were, therewas no, no arguing.
There was no like pushback.
It was all just go with theflow.
Everything we did, we even, Ithink the most time we spent
apart was maybe 30 minutes.
Kari (08:51):
That was literally 30 minutes
Casey (08:53):
and then you were like, I'm gonna go back to the group
that we were hanging out with.
I was like, cool.
Um, I'm going to take a littlesocial battery recharge.
Like my introvert self was notthere yet.
Kari (09:03):
Yeah.
But I was also gone for likefive minutes and you're like, I
miss you.
Like, I, I, okay.
Cute.
I actually five minutes.
Fuck off.
I will go back through mymessages.
Exactly.
Casey (09:15):
Eventually made my way back out there.
We want a music trivia contest.
Oh yeah,
Kari (09:19):
we did.
With the captain.
Everyone has nicknames.
If you haven't noticed, right.
There's like shots.
There's captain there.
There was a few other, well, wehad the, this was, Not at the
resort, but we had FortLauderdale Um, Big cock and Fort
Lauderdale, very, very, you
Casey (09:37):
know, pleasant.
Um, what are they, what are theycalled?
Not flight, not flightattendants, but the person
that's at the desk, you know,calling.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those people who has keptpronouncing Fort Lauderdale as
Fort Lauderdale.
Kari (09:50):
And so we're all, we're just cracking up, which that's
kind of how it started,honestly.
And so it was just, it was greatfor us to be able to go and have
a really good time and come upwith all these different like
memories and like fun, little,like.
Nicknames to the people that wehung out with.
And we just, we really had agood time.
I mean, there was one point thatyou like went up to the bar and
(10:11):
I text you like, you're sohandsome.
The exact minute that you textme something along those lines,
like in the exact minute we weretexting each other, the same
thing.
It was cool.
Casey (10:24):
I was
Kari (10:29):
about to say, do you think that we were so spicy during
our, uh, Like trip because wewent there listening to spicy
books beforehand.
Casey (10:39):
I
Kari (10:43):
told him not to say spicy earlier.
Well, that's not because of theword it's because of your
speech.
Yes, it was the S and the C init.
That's kind of funny to hear yousay.
Casey (10:58):
One of the things that we like to do is that we are both.
Into erotica, you know, youusually see the basics online,
right?
Where it's always like the wifeis into the erotica and then
she's the one reading the spicy.
Yeah, I read them too.
And Carrie actually got me intomore of them.
Whenever she started reading theoh, so popular ACOTAR series, I
(11:19):
went, you know what?
I'm going to read that one too.
And so it was like book for bookwith us going through the same
exact ones.
And we finished the Well, theseries so far on that one.
And so then we started dippinginto the other ones and now
we've kind of diverged a littlebit, a little bit, but you're
now reading the fourth wing, thefourth wing.
Kari (11:36):
Yes.
I just finished the first one.
Casey (11:38):
And then I'm going through the latest one that I've
just, I'm about to finish is adowry of blood
Kari (11:43):
and you heard from that, from, uh, from our friend,
right?
Yeah.
Casey (11:46):
Yes.
Our friend Moose,
Kari (11:48):
lazy Moose.
Casey (11:49):
We, I heard about that one.
That one is insanely goodbecause it's, it is kind of
poetic.
It's very, it's very.
Literary and it's the story ofDracula, but told through the
eyes of his brides.
But one of his brides inparticular, but it tells a story
about like how each of them cameto be.
And so my suggestion is that ifyou're, if you're a poly
(12:11):
positive, then read that one.
Yeah.
Go to that one because it'sinteresting.
It is interesting.
Um,
Kari (12:15):
And the way, even the way that you're describing it was
funny.
Cause I had sent a message andI, and I always said, that's a
question.
When you're reading one of thosebooks is like, how spicy is it?
How far are they going?
And it was literally a minute.
He was like, nah, it's not thatbad.
And then he was like, Oh shit.
It's
Casey (12:31):
not really sexual about it now.
Within a couple minutes on,okay, nevermind, scratch that.
Kari (12:39):
But you're also describing like a scene.
Earlier.
Um, and I think it's kind ofwhat like brought up, like us
talking about some of this onthe show, but it was even them
like talking about like theirrelationship between the, the
other women and the type of bondthat's created.
And it's just so nice to seethat like in a book that's also
(12:59):
so heavily sexually charged.
Casey (13:01):
Yes.
With it being so sexuallycharged, it was, I don't know
why I'm drawing blinks oncharacter names right now.
I was Matt Madeline Magdalena.
Okay, but it's it's Dracula'sfirst bride.
She's talking about Draculaintroducing her to Magdalena how
much jealousy she felt towardsher because He kept telling her
(13:21):
that she was just a friend, thatit was nothing there.
And then eventually he veryclearly starts manipulating her
into accepting Magdalena as asister and as in, as the next
bride.
But then her and Magdalena'srelationship starts to evolve.
And so.
She puts it in a way essentiallysaying that she realized that
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her love for Dracula ran as deepas it did for Magdalena.
And if she can do that, then itwas able to get her to realize
that so could he.
So it was, it was like thisinteresting little, like.
Kari (13:54):
Snip bit into Polly, right?
Casey (13:56):
Yeah.
This little look into Pollybeing like, cool.
Anybody that's like, kind ofcurious that.
Here's, here's something to lookinto.
Here's something to read about.
Kari (14:04):
Minus the minute, the Dracula manipulation, obviously.
But it's not something
Casey (14:10):
that they like veiled.
No, I know.
The author of S.
T.
Gibson, who wrote it, really,really kind of shows you.
It's not something that'shidden.
It's not something that lateryou realize, Oh shit, he
manipulated her.
It's like, it's very clear thatthat's.
So, but that, I mean, that'skind of what our topic is going
on today.
Um, in fact, we're about to turnyou over here in just a couple
(14:31):
of minutes to our interview forthe day.
Kari (14:34):
Yep.
We have, uh, another author.
Um, very excited to have her on.
Her name is Jade Green.
And if you were familiar withone of our episodes in the past
where we had the other author onthat was, uh, Shay, Shay Kuhn.
Um, she was the one that endedup referring us over to, to Jade
Green.
Yeah,
Casey (14:50):
Shay had been like, Hey, I have somebody else.
We've been trying to get Jade onthe podcast.
Yeah, it's been a minute.
As you said earlier, life haslife.
Kari (15:00):
Life is lifing, man.
It has been difficult, but weended up getting her on and, uh,
we're going to have an interviewwith her coming up right after
this.
Casey (15:08):
So stay tuned.
You want to go ahead and turn itover?
Yep.
Let's do it.
All right.
So check this out.
This is our interview withauthor Jade Green, who is the
author of the disorderly conductseries.
So enjoy it.
casey (2) (15:19):
All righT.
Well, thank you for joining usthis afternoon with, with
myself, Dr.
Casey Sanders.
And I'm Carrie Sanders.
And we are, we have a pleasuretoday to bring us back into the
real world.
of erotic fiction, mostlyfiction, with our new friend and
author Jade Green.
Jade, welcome to the show.
Jade (15:38):
Hello.
Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah.
casey (2) (15:42):
We're happy to have you here and we're happy to hear
more about what's going on.
So, we have two of your bookshere.
Um, if I'm correct, the firstone, this is the Disorderly
Conduct series.
With the first one being thecollege edition and the second
one being the deployment editionAnd then you have a forthcoming
book, which is the missionedition.
Is that right?
Jade (16:03):
Yeah Um, so that one is coming out really soon.
It took me a bit to likefinalize but it's It'll probably
be out before the end of theyear.
It's that close to being Done,so i'm so excited
Kari (2) (16:15):
how perfect to be on the show then right now like
plug that away, baby Exactly soyou start with us and then
you'll finish with us right likeyou'll come back on after the
the right it'll be perfect
Jade (16:30):
Well, yeah, that sounds awesome.
Kari (2) (16:33):
No, we're so excited to have you on.
And we've been wanting to haveyou on for a while, but then
life has gotten like life, life,you know, life, life, right?
Like
Jade (16:42):
we worked hard to make today happen.
That's that's what I told Gary.
I'm like, this was a groupeffort to make sure we can
casey (2) (16:49):
do this.
And we did this through liketrying to schedule.
And then we went through a moveand all sorts of just mishaps
that delayed us.
And then all sorts of stuff.
So, but we are here today.
Jade, we've got you on the show.
We're super excited to do thisinterview, uh, because we've
been able to be introduced tothese books, but I want you to
take a minute.
To introduce readers andlisteners to your books.
Jade (17:11):
Oh yeah.
So first and foremost, um,before I'm anything, I like to
say that I'm Jade Green, Green,I am a erotica author,
specifically a humorous eroticaauthor.
Um, I take pride in not onlyturning on people, but I want to
make them laugh as well.
And it just brings me so muchjoy to do both of those things.
Uh, I got started five yearsago, or six years ago, I got
(17:36):
started on my first manuscript.
And, um, I wasn't sure whichgenre I wanted to write.
It actually started as a memoirand then I pivoted and it turned
into a humorous erotica and I'mso glad I did that because I was
really able to reach in andlike, see where I, my creativity
could take me both in anarousing way and a comedic way
(17:57):
and I love that balance that I,I try to maintain in the book.
In the second series, uh, or inthe second book of the series.
So I have two books so far,Disorderly Conduct College
Edition, as Casey said, and thenDisorderly Conduct Deployment
Edition out.
Um, the first one is a muchfunnier read.
The second one still has a lotof comedy in it, but it's more
(18:18):
like, it reads more of adramedy.
A satirical dramedy, so ups anddowns.
casey (2) (18:24):
Yeah, because the second one is about, I mean,
it's about humanitarianism onsome level.
It's like going into a hurricanezone with a bunch of people and
like helping out while alsoexploring the sexual side of
things.
Jade (18:39):
Yeah, um, and what made me write that, like, and what I
love about fiction, this is aperfect example of it.
Um, so my books are looselyinspired by my life and I say
loosely because I had to add andchange and really make the story
for, uh, my protagonist, Ari.
(18:59):
I always tease with people.
I'm like, Ari is, in thefictional universe, my daughter.
So, we share so many qualities.
Like, she's literally my size,she's my height, and she's my
stature, black hair, um, butshe's also different.
Um, I tried to make her moreextreme.
I try to make her more, um,like, even more intense when she
(19:22):
goes through her feelings.
So when she's in a state whereshe's being immature and she's
being cocky, I try to make heras egotistical, cocky, like, the
biggest bully in her life youcould think of, both to herself
and to other people.
And then on the flip side ofthat, when she goes, uh, it's
funny, in the first book, um, Imake a few things happen to her
(19:44):
that kind of humble her and makeher step back from herself to
realize, like, Oh, there's moreto life than titles.
There's more to life than beingthe cool girl or being the hot
girl or being Whatever being themost sexually desirable person
in the room And so it leads heron a journey to be like well
What can go alongside that likeI can still have that part of me
(20:04):
But what can I do to go alongwith that?
So I traumatized my child likeany good author parent right You
know, that's why it's fictionit's Gotta put them through the
ringer and the second book isreally Like the first book,
she's 21.
Her mindset is all aboutpartying.
She just wants to have fun.
(20:26):
She wants to be cool.
She wants to be deemed worthy.
Like a lot of us at that age,whether or not, right.
I mean, I don't know if youremember, I hated that age.
Like, to me, I think everyonesaw what I had, like, even me as
a beauty queen, like, goingthrough that.
In real life, I hated being,like, 18 to 22.
(20:48):
I just felt so Pure pressuredand so impressionable and very,
um, socially anxious to boot.
Kari (2) (20:55):
Yeah, I say I will never go back to that age in my
life.
Like that stage, I'm good.
I don't, I don't pity anyone init.
I would never go back.
The closer now I get to 40 isactually the more excited I get.
Cause like that phase is hardand, and like, it really shaped.
It's kind of your neck, thatnext phase, right?
It is really important to gothrough it, but I'm done on
(21:17):
that.
Jade (21:19):
And we're all prone to it, you know, whether it's like peer
pressure for sex or drugs orjust being at a party, you don't
want to be at all that
casey (2) (21:28):
stuff.
Any idea growing up, how manyparties I went to where I was
like, Fucking be here.
Are those the
Kari (2) (21:33):
same ones that you threw or?
Oh, okay.
casey (2) (21:38):
He's like, I'd rather them come to me, right?
True.
And I felt like I just wanted toleave the entire time.
Kari (2) (21:47):
So, so what, what would you say in that era is
when you kind of decided thatyou wanted to write books or
where were you at in that?
Like, when did you come to beinglike, I want to write these like
satirical, like sexy time books?
Actually books
Jade (22:03):
weirdly on deployment.
Um, I came back from my firstone Like, so my first
deployment, this is where Ari,my protagonist, has a way better
time than I do.
I also give her some treatswhere in real life, I, I had it
way worse than how it is in thebook.
So, so in the second book, whileshe's on deployment, um, it's
(22:27):
interesting.
She, first book, she's more oflike crazy swinger.
Second book, she meets, One guywho she's like very, well, a
couple guys, but like in eachphase where she's back at home,
she has one boyfriend whereshe's on deployment.
She meets one guy and she's moresticking to like what, what
normally happens to, again, mid20 year olds.
You kind of gravitate to lesspeople, but better quality
(22:48):
people that more fit what you'relooking for.
Um, so second book, she's like25 to 27 and, It's, it's
interesting because it's like, Iactually didn't hook up on the
second deployment until the veryend, until we were let go.
And the reason why is because itwasn't even a, it wasn't even a
morally righteous decision.
(23:09):
It's, in real life, when you'resleeping in tents, Outside,
without plumbing, um, you don'treally want to have sex, and
it's not because other peoplearen't sexy, it's because it's
gross.
Like, you know, I did not wantto, I didn't want to fuck
people, especially since we wereall, all of us were just nasty,
(23:30):
and there were actually Theyfound ticks, they found flea,
they found a ton of bugs, too,on base camp, which is natural,
you know, we're staying outsidein a hurricane zone, so they,
there's nothing they could do toprevent stuff like that before
it happened,
casey (2) (23:44):
so, in the book, causing a situation.
Yeah.
To And everything you'redescribing, it's not something
you're like, man, I can notwait.
I get that.
Jade (23:56):
Yeah.
Like, and that's why in thebook, she's fucking like crazy
in deployment.
But it's funny because it'slike, when people ask me about
that, they're like, man, thatmust've been great.
I'm like, actually, no, like Idid not.
Once we were let go andrelieved, we were all staying in
hotels the day after we werelike released from duty.
So in that setting, it's like,yeah, I did hook up with, With a
(24:17):
handsome dude on deployment, butnot during the period where I
was like, did you at least getto
Kari (2) (24:22):
like flirt a lot?
Cause that can be just as fun,you know, and then like building
that anticipation, like you waituntil I shower, you just wait,
you know?
Yeah.
Jade (24:34):
That's definitely, we had, so it was us Red Crossers.
Like I was with Red Cross foryears, uh, volunteering and I
helped with Irma.
And then the third book, isbased on Maria.
I helped in Maria in PuertoRico.
So they had like securityguards.
who were like pretty much ourage.
They were like a lot ofdifferent like Marines and like
(24:57):
former military dudes that weregood looking and young.
So it was very easy to justexchange numbers and yeah, end
up hooking up in the end.
casey (2) (25:07):
I know.
And then your second one, Ithink it's near the end of the
book, you describe a foursomebetween a few, a few of the
people that were, that werethere, right?
Jade (25:16):
Yeah, so um, that, that was a different experience in
real life.
I can say it was a groupactivity, but it was, it was a
slightly different experience.
Again, for storytelling, becauseit's like, I like to write her
own story in a way, like I, atthis point, I'm one of those
authors that knows my ending andlike, I, I'm pretty much set on
(25:41):
like what I'm never going totell anyone.
So everybody has to read to theend of the book, but I know it.
So.
For me, I'm trying to lead itthere in a way that makes sense.
Um, and so yeah, in real lifethough, it was me and a bunch of
security guards
Kari (2) (25:59):
at the hotel.
You were so safe that night.
Choo choo! You were veryprotected.
Very proud of you.
I was so safe.
I was so safe
casey (2) (26:10):
in that train.
I love that.
So needless to say, you had agood time.
So, how much of this, I did, howmuch of this, it sounds to me
like you pull a lot of yourscenes from personal experience,
is that right?
Jade (26:26):
I do, like a decent amount, but also from like, oh,
I guess my Bluetooth is doingsome weird stuff.
Um, so yeah, like some of thethings, but also from like other
people's stories, like I'vedefinitely taken inspiration
from friend stories.
To put in little moments in thebook like maybe a smaller scene
(26:49):
that's like stupid and funnywouldn't have been my story
directly, but would have been afriend's story that like was
similar to it.
And I kind of, I like doing thatbecause to me, don't get me
wrong, memoirs are interesting,but like I'm very creative.
So I actually, when I'm readinga book, I'm not a big nonfiction
(27:09):
person.
I'm very creative.
Like, certain biographies I'veread, I've read Claire Barton's
biography, I've read KatherineSwitzer's biography, like,
people's like that, I'll read,but, I, I love fiction, I love,
like, the drama, the comedy,the, like, ridiculous moments
where you're like, that wouldnever happen in real life, and
that's the beauty of fictionwriting, that you can, like,
(27:30):
embellish and put things intoyour own stories and make it
into, like, this crazy, Big fishstory that like, maybe some of
it happened, but like most of itdidn't.
casey (2) (27:41):
Yeah.
That's
Jade (27:42):
really interesting.
Kari (2) (27:43):
Okay, sO I have my next question then.
And we kind of went on thesecute little tangents.
But I guess I'm wondering, like,did you always know that you
wanted to be an author?
Or like, where did you kind ofstart out?
And then when did you come tothat, like, conclusion?
Jade (27:58):
I loved writing, like, growing up.
I really liked fictional likeshort story writing and stuff
like that.
And that was like in mytwenties, like early twenties, I
started writing, um, financialarticles for like LinkedIn and
like, you know, just like mediumand stuff like that.
Like not as an employee, ofcourse, but like on LinkedIn,
you know, people will post theirown articles.
(28:20):
And I love doing that kind ofstuff, just like staying up to
date with the news and alsorelaying my information, but
that got really stale.
And I think my second deploymentcoming back from it.
Um, like I was really impacted,uh, just because I, I had never
seen people in that state.
(28:42):
Um, like, and that many people.
So while like, I was so happy toserve, I would step up and serve
again.
And a heartbeat, I actually justtried for a lean, but they
didn't need me.
Fortunately, that's a good thingthough.
Um, But, you know, it did, itchanged me so much.
And I think like, at that pointit wasn't, it's funny because it
(29:05):
wasn't like being a beauty queenthat made me want to write a
book.
I think like any author thatwrites a book off of their life,
like there's definitely a momentwhere like, you're like, damn,
like my life is crazy enough.
I should write a book.
And mine, mine was that likecoming back from deployment.
I'm like, Jesus.
Like.
People have no idea like, andthese aren't, I'm not
(29:26):
volunteering abroad.
I'm not volunteering in a, um,you know, a place that's, that's
not relatable.
These are Americans.
These are like, these are, are,are people.
And so like, when I saw that andespecially like the lack of
response from the government,like I'm not political, but I'm
very passionate about disasterresponse.
(29:49):
Like that's one political thingI'm passionate about because.
I don't really give a damn whatlegislators say if americans are
suffering like especially withnorth carolina and like even in
irma in irma's case exactly likeget people on the ground get
people there to help them getmoney in to help them because
You know these people they don'teven have water some of them
(30:11):
lose their big ones losing theirmedications um And so that
really drove me.
I'm like, man, like I shouldwrite about my life and do it in
a way like self, the selfishpart for me was like, I found, I
found therapy in it.
Um, that's great actually.
Kari (30:29):
For
Jade (30:32):
me, it was like a really good coping mechanism because it
was like, I needed a way toprocess it without making it
such a dark cloud in my mindbecause I love humanitarian
work, but part of humanitarianwork, you know, you are exposed
to crappy legislation and crappyresponse from local or even most
(30:53):
of the time, federal localgovernments are great.
Usually they're like on theirshit, but you know, FEMA,
unfortunately, They're theslowest to respond.
So for me, that was a bigmotivation.
I was like, you know what, Ineed a positive way to process
all this and a way to liketransmute it into something good
for society and myself.
casey (2) (31:15):
So then, so then, what inspired blending erotica
in with these very like realstories of, of like disaster?
What, where, where is the,where's the source of that, that
we can kind of unite theeroticism with like these
humanitarian efforts?
Jade (31:34):
Well, so in the first book, um, and in my own life
when I was in college, I was, Idon't know how my luck got me
this, but like I had a literalgroup of swinger friends,
partially poly.
I didn't, we didn't know what wewere.
We did not label ourselves.
It was like a group of like, 10guys and girls that just fucked
(31:57):
each other and like were friendsand dated and like partied
together and, Mm-Hmm.
I kind of, yeah.
Like it was, I'm
casey (2) (32:04):
here for it.
A whole, a whole group of
Kari (2) (32:06):
go on, go on
Jade (32:09):
And back then, like, this was like 2009 two, 2009 to 2011.
So like there wasn't as muchinformation Yeah.
About polyamorous.
So we just were like, we're justa bunch of sluts that like are
friends.
Like that's what.
What we just like leave allourselves at.
I
Kari (2) (32:28):
love that for y'all.
Maybe I should have gone tocollege.
Jesus.
casey (2) (32:34):
I know.
Where was this?
This was
Kari (2) (32:35):
not at the community college.
I swear it was not.
Oh my
Jade (32:39):
gosh.
I went to school in Baltimore atan all women's college and we
were surrounded.
There's like.
30 colleges in Baltimore.
So it's just like, got itdominated by 18 to 22 year olds.
So on the bright side at age, Iwas constantly swinging, getting
BBG threesomes.
(33:00):
Like by the time it was 21, Ialready had my first like 4g
with or 5g with guys.
I had four guys.
casey (2) (33:08):
So you've had, like, you had the experience, like
anything, any of those stuffwhere you see right here,
they're like these crazy, wildstories and people are like,
wow, that happens in the movies.
You're going, no, no, itdoesn't.
Kari (2) (33:19):
That's just my Tuesday.
I am so proud of you.
I think that's amazing.
Jade (33:26):
And for me too, like, so going back to how deployment
sex, all that, how it ties in.
Um, you know, I had to re find,for me, like, finding, re
finding my sexuality and myselfafter deployment was a
challenge, so, like, I think, inthe book, I try to make it where
it's kind of a healing presencein the second book.
(33:47):
In the first book, it's just herdrug.
She is OD'ing on sex witheverybody and fucking everybody
and having a good time.
The second book though, she'sapproaching sex and using sex in
her life more as like a healingand coping and connecting tool.
So it's, that's where I like tokind of switch it up where it's
like she's still enjoying it andshe's still having a foursome, a
(34:08):
swap.
Um, but it's, it's with a moreethical and, you know, Chill
mindset.
casey (2) (34:15):
Yes, coming in her own learning more about, you
know, sex positivity andprinciples of healthy sex and
Instead of just fuckingeverybody.
Jade (34:26):
Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong like that's fun I'd like
at 20 when you have nothingbetter to do than just like be
studying or fucking somebody Butyeah, like we,
casey (2) (34:39):
we maintain a heavy message on our show of sex
positivity and we always haveour biggest rules are as long as
there's consent, comfort andcommunication, go for it.
Are you being safe about it?
Cool.
Do you have fun?
Jade (34:52):
It's easier with, with age for short.
Cause I feel like at that age,people, people are more likely
to lie in those circles andstuff.
And I mean, there's always thatin older circles as well, but I
mean, at least There's morematurity among the 30s and 40s
swingers than the 20s hookupcrew.
casey (2) (35:11):
Yeah.
Luckily we're starting to likekind of shift things.
That's one of the, uh, one forus is like comprehensive sex
education for youngergenerations to allow them to
come up into being 18, 20, 22,and be able to still participate
in these things.
If you'd like doing it in a waywhere you can do it safely and
not have to worry so much.
Jade (35:31):
Yeah.
I mean, and that's what I likedhaving a group because it really
minimized risk of like STD orlike it at least buffered the
unplanned pregnancy thing,because none of those guys were
strangers.
Like they were friends and stillare like, some of them still are
my friends.
Um, and some of the girls aswell, like, we're all just a lot
(35:53):
of us are still friends, so itnegated the risk a little bit,
but it is harder, like, I amfinding it hard, especially
being so new to a city.
It's hard to find a new grouplike that because people are
some people are totally carelessand I've heard of people not
testing at all or even worsefaking.
(36:15):
Results so that they can getinto circles.
Yeah.
casey (2) (36:19):
The vetting process is super important, but I'm, you
know, it is, we've, we've donethe episodes before about trying
to find your social circlewithin a sex positive community
and how difficult that can belike, and we get it.
We have listeners all the time,right.
Writing us in who are like, Hey,I'm interested in like forming a
polycule or I'm interested in,in exploring this certain act of
bondage.
But I'm having trouble findingpeople that I feel comfortable
(36:41):
with, or I don't even know whereto begin outside of going to
like a local dungeon or sexclub.
And so it's a difficult one tonavigate for sure.
But like, once you get in, likeyou said, you had that core
group of people, which I'm surewould make for a great reunion
20 years later.
I
Jade (36:59):
am not going to lie.
Two of the guys live in LA andevery time I'm over, Hey guys,
but they're, They're busy.
They're both professors.
I can't see the schools, butthey're both professors over
there.
casey (2) (37:11):
They're
Kari (2) (37:12):
professors.
Holy shit.
That's amazing.
That sounds like another book.
That sounds like another book.
Jade (37:20):
I don't think those two ever like, oh man, the, the
lore, the Jade sex lore goes,right.
I don't think those two everbanged me together, but I'm
pretty sure one of them was inthe other room when the other.
Five of them or other four ofthem were banging me.
Yeah, he was they never likehooked up with me together But
(37:41):
they both hooked up with otherguys in the group with me That's
how like
Kari (37:47):
yeah
Jade (37:48):
It's like a 10 person 11 person group.
Yeah
casey (2) (37:52):
It sounds like a dream, doesn't it?
I mean,
Kari (2) (37:54):
dream I had last night.
Jesus.
No.
So, okay.
I, I love how like sexually openyou are and you seem to be
someone that's been that way fora really long time.
Um, that's not super common.
And so that's what I'm saying.
Like.
I'm super proud of you.
I think that's bad ass that yougo out there and be who you are
and you're very real to say it.
And so that just kind of had mewondering earlier, how has your
(38:17):
like friends and family kind oflike understood your writings
and who you are?
Maybe they don't know.
casey (2) (38:24):
We know about the friends.
Kari (2) (38:25):
Yeah, true.
Some of the friends, not all thefriends that was just the 10
group, right?
There's other friends, but I'mjust curious how it's been like,
you know, received.
Jade (38:35):
Yeah.
Um, it's interesting because.
I'm not the first author in myfamily.
Uh, there's another publishedauthor.
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sayher name because I know, like,
with my stuff.
I don't want to bombard herprivacy, but she really inspired
me like in the first place tojust write.
And so I did.
And I was lucky cause I'm prettyclose to my family.
(38:58):
And once I wrote my book, like Idid tell my family and I was
just like, Hey, just letting youknow, like this probably isn't
going to go anywhere, but likein case somebody on Facebook in
your friend group or whatever,like sees it, I was like, just
so you know, like, I'm writing,you know, erotica, and it's just
something that I can do on theside of my job.
(39:20):
It's just something I like todo.
I just enjoy doing it.
And, um, they were reallyaccepting of it.
Actually.
They were, they were prettyaccepting.
I know my, um, my mom was like,I want to buy your books, but
I'm never going to read them.
I'm like, that's fine.
That is the
Kari (2) (39:35):
best supportive mother in the world.
Then don't embarrass me byreading them, but buy them off
the shelves, please.
Jade (39:42):
She's like, and then, um, What was really flattering was
she actually bought them for herfriends and stuff.
So that was really cool.
And her friends did read it andthey told her, they were like,
it's amazing.
And I'm like, that's adorable.
Kari (2) (39:56):
Here you go.
My daughter's sex book.
Jade (39:58):
Um, no, they liked it.
They thought I did, did a goodjob in it.
Uh, my cousins, they like arereally proud of me, but I think
when I was a teenager though,see, here's the thing, like, it
was a struggle to.
It was a struggle to get intolike a healthy mindset with sex
because for a while likeespecially my early 20s and like
(40:21):
Late teenage.
I, it was more like rebelling,more narcissistic backed.
I mean, especially at that agewhen you're like ego is just the
size of a room.
And, um, it sucks because like,especially as a teenager, I was
never into partying, um, and wasnever into, I didn't even smoke
weed until college actually.
(40:41):
Um, so I was a very straightedge, nervous, socially anxious,
sexual, but socially anxious,nervous, um, studious person.
And, I got so much shit.
What's crazy is the kids thatwere breaking the laws and like
maybe beating up theirgirlfriend, their girlfriend,
like I went to a very small townschool in the middle of nowhere,
(41:01):
Pennsylvania, and it's likegirls would walk in with like a
big bruised eye and nobody wouldsay anything about like her
boyfriend beating on her, butit's like me giving a blow job.
Like to my boyfriend orwhatever, somewhere at a party
was like, you know, sounds
casey (2) (41:17):
like we all went to, we were all in school around the
same time.
And so, yeah, we, we both wentto a smaller town.
And it was the same kind ofsituation.
It was the same kind ofsituation.
Rumors flying, but they werenever about like the stupid shit
that the guys were doing.
It was always like, what thegirls did.
What?
Look at this girl.
(41:37):
She's a slut.
She's a whore that because shehad sex with her boyfriend.
So it was, it's, it wasdefinitely an interesting time
to unfortunately experience, uh,a lot of
Kari (2) (41:48):
that.
Yeah.
Jade (41:50):
It, um, I don't miss it at all.
And college was really the firsttime.
That's why I think it was soespecially transformative for me
because it's like, not only was.
Like especially as a beautyqueen, not only was I happy with
my appearance and where I wasn'tlike, like I'm so proud of
myself.
I mean, cause I never thought Iwould have been like, I really,
if you went back to 20 year oldme and we're like, do you really
(42:12):
think you'll win a state beautypageant?
I would have been like, fuck no,but like, I'm going to try.
And like, I was a very, I never,I was really hard on myself.
And so I think that coupled withthe fact that I was not used to
having a healthy, Sexenvironment like that really
helped me flourish as both likejust a person a friend a
(42:32):
girlfriend and I'm like anauthor.
Yeah, totally Yeah, thank youcollege friends for banging me
into health
Kari (2) (42:39):
Whipping you into shape
casey (2) (42:41):
You have the two books out.
You have the, the next onecoming.
Uh, and then you mentionedearly, you said that you have an
end in mind.
Like where's, like clearlywithout sharing any, any details
with us, how, how far did youplan on taking this?
Jade (42:55):
I am going to write at least two more books after the
third.
So I have a fourth book plan andthen I think a fifth book plan.
Um, but there's two topics.
I know like people are curiousIf I was going to write, so it's
interesting because I started inlike the adult industry as like
a dancer before I was an authorand I never wrote about it.
(43:18):
And I know people were likewondering like, am I going to
write about that?
Or am I going to write aboutlike my current endeavor of like
adult acting?
And it's like, I don't think Ishould.
And the reason why is becauselike, I am, I'm such a rare
demographic and I don't feellike it's fair.
And let me clarify it.
Like, The family thing is aprivilege that so many people,
(43:40):
like, and even erotica authors,like, you know, I've lost at
least one, I've lost a job threeyears ago or two years ago when
I like first was publishing.
My boss found out I was writingerotica and I got fired.
Um, so, you know, it does happenwhere it's like people don't
have support and I don't want towrite about it from my frame
(44:02):
point.
Cause I just think it's veryinappropriate and that it would
not, it would not do a good jobpainting the life of someone
normally on average.
Someone in that community.
Kari (2) (44:13):
Okay.
I can understand that honestly.
I agree with that.
Jade (44:17):
and I'm, I am not lost on the fact that, like, there are
some people, like I've met somany dancers or adult actresses
where it's like, they havenobody to like, go to like, They
don't even have a spouse orboyfriend or anything like on
holidays.
And it's like, I, you know what,that's one rare thing I have.
So I am not going to.
(44:37):
use it for bad or like use it toprop myself up whenever people
have different situations andyou know sometimes friend groups
can be just as good as biofamily and yeah of course
casey (2) (44:48):
yeah absolutely absolutely and you know we we've
talked to a number of peoplethat have gone through various
industries uh or various aspectsof the adult industry we've
heard we've heard it all we'veheard people that were
completely shunned by theirfamilies We've had people that
were celebrated by theirfamilies.
We've had people that like, Ithink that we had a previous
guest on and she had said, shewas like, my dad's one of my
biggest supporters.
(45:11):
I'm over here.
Jade (45:12):
That's like my mom.
She's like, I'm not looking atyour book, but
Kari (2) (45:17):
I'm so supportive of it.
Jade (45:19):
But yeah, the rest of them are awesome.
casey (2) (45:22):
Yeah, we're super excited to see where you go from
here.
It sounds like you've got areally good foundation here with
your books and everything thatyou're working on outside of
that.
In fact, we like kind of are inmany talks about continuing this
discussion on a later date tolook at your other endeavors.
Uh, for now we definitely wantedto really focus on, on this book
(45:42):
series and, and like kind ofwhere it came about.
So thank you so much for theinformation today.
Anybody that's wanting to, toread these books, get a hold of
you, or like take a look at anyof what you do, how would they
get in contact with you?
Jade (45:57):
Yeah, so I have an ex, or Twitter, I like saying Twitter.
Yeah,
Kari (46:03):
I know.
Jade (46:05):
You know, Jake Green books, um, J A D E, Green with
an extra E at the end books, andthen, um, Author jade green on
Instagram.
So both of those spots.
casey (2) (46:16):
Perfect.
And if they wanted to purchaseone of your books, how would
they do that?
Jade (46:20):
Ooh, you can check them out on Amazon and actually both
the ebook.
I think of the first and secondand the audible book of the
first are.
Free with a trial of Kindle orAudible.
So if you don't have one and youwant one, get a free trial.
casey (2) (46:37):
Carrie, thank you for sharing.
Jade (46:38):
I
Kari (2) (46:39):
love
Jade (46:39):
that.
For our
Kari (2) (46:43):
YouTube people, they can see it.
Jade (46:47):
Vanna Whiting, very finely.
casey (2) (46:49):
Awesome.
Jade, thank you so much forcoming on today.
We look forward to talking toyou in the future for yet
another episode.
Here we are.
I'm Dr.
Casey Sanders, and I'm
Kari (2) (46:57):
Carrie Sanders.
I'll
casey (2) (46:58):
see you all next time.
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A little bit.
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And why do
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Yeah.
Kari (01:09):
Welcome
Casey (01:09):
to the club.
Mouth is feeling toasty.
Kari (01:13):
So, um, I'm sure I've talked about it.
Get or give.
Oh, you keep saying that you'regonna, but yes, he's not They're
very soft, they're very soft.
Um, so I actually went through around of braces about a year ago
and Huge, huge changes, but Ihad to give up on it for a
(01:36):
minute.
It was a lot.
I was getting fricking sick ofit.
And so we had kind of had thislike discussion that, you know
what?
I'm going to restart because youalso wanted to go ahead and get
yours worked on.
So we, uh, went before our tripto Mexico, which we're going to
get to.
Um, we went before, goteverything set up and lit it was
literally like two days after wegot back,
Casey (01:58):
we got them in.
Kari (02:00):
It's cute though.
We we're doing it together.
Casey (02:03):
Yeah.
See my nice smile right now.
Kari (02:05):
I mean they're Invisalign.
You don't really see much.
Casey (02:08):
I feel like mine can be seen.
My teeth look wider right nowthan they have yours.
Kari (02:12):
Yeah, they do.
They do do that.
And I cheated.
Mine are only on the bottom.
They were trying to have me ontop and bottom and I was like,
absolutely not.
I am drawing finger top becausestay on the
Casey (02:21):
subject of giving and getting head with, oh you do
Kari (02:24):
Invisalign, you do like it when I gave you head with
Invisalign in, I mean,
Casey (02:28):
anybody that's ever received a below your partner
has Invisalign in knows.
It's actually quite nice.
Kari (02:34):
It's soft.
Casey (02:35):
It's a lot softer.
Kari (02:36):
It's really soft.
And then for me, like as the onelike giving, it does alter how I
give head too.
Like, I don't know, it's likethis nice little barrier that
you kind of have.
Your
Casey (02:47):
teeth aren't sharp anymore.
Kari (02:49):
I know and my teeth can be pretty fucking sharp.
Casey (02:53):
So I'll be curious to see what it's like to give you head.
Kari (02:55):
Yeah.
Have
Casey (02:56):
you ever given head?
To a woman with Invisalign in
Kari (02:59):
Mm, I don't think so.
They're always out.
I would always take'em out.
Yeah, I would always take'emout.
Wasn't for me, but hey, you knowwhat, with you totally different
situation.
Oh God,
Casey (03:14):
Find out how that works.
I'm just gonna
Kari (03:15):
have to keep these afterwards just to like, it
fulfilled the kink that'screated, baby.
Casey (03:21):
Go get the Invisalign.
Kari (03:22):
Go get those Invisalign for me.
Oh my God.
Anyways.
What else happened in our liveslately?
I
Casey (03:30):
feel like you're leading me on here.
Kari (03:32):
I'm always leading you on.
It's a tease.
Life is a tease.
Uh, we went to Mexico.
We went to Mexico.
It was so much fun.
Oh, we had a fucking blast.
Where are we at?
Uh, elegance, majestic.
Casey (03:46):
Majestic
Kari (03:47):
elegance.
How long do you think it'd throwall these S's out there?
Why do you think I'm having yousay it?
You're doing much better.
You're doing much better.
Until you do that.
I
Casey (04:00):
feel like if I just put on an act, it'll, it'll maybe
help out.
Kari (04:06):
We'll go back and listen to this first time or first
episode with you having men, andthen we'll listen like, you
know, months from now and you'regoing to sound a lot better.
You do get adjusted to it.
I promise.
Um, but anyways, yeah, we wentto a majestic elegance in, in
Cancun.
Um, We were there for what?
Four days.
Yeah.
Four days.
(04:26):
And we didn't, we didn't doshit.
Casey (04:29):
No, this is the first vacation we've been on in years
that didn't revolve around somesort of business training,
marketing training, or seminarsor kids, kids.
This is the first one gone in awhile.
Kari (04:43):
I mean, technically.
You just took all those out,right?
This is only our second triptogether.
Then honestly, like, yes, it is.
This is only our second timebeing together alone.
That did not have to do withbusiness or children or family,
right?
So this was our second time.
(05:03):
And the first time that we went,it really was for our, obviously
our honeymoon, um, and, and itwas an okay time.
It was just, uh, It was, that'swhy I kind of hesitated on
saying it because that istechnically what we did it for,
but it just happened to be fiveyears later.
And then it happened to beduring like COVID.
Casey (05:24):
It was, it was like fall of 2020.
And so the, even the trip,everything was mask on the
plane, mask at the resort, likeCOVID tests.
Nothing was hardly open.
Yeah.
Each was closed cause there wassome fucking, oh my God.
Kari (05:41):
Of all the times for us to fricking go, it was the one time
that you couldn't even go on thewater.
So we were really stuck to just.
The pool and, and, and we, itwas a very, very nice resort.
Don't get me wrong.
Casey (05:55):
Yes.
Kari (05:55):
It was absolutely amazing.
Um, but yeah, we just didn't getto like experience that much,
but we did go on like anexcursion.
And I think that's why I thinkthat's why we decided this time
that we didn't want to do any ofthat.
Casey (06:07):
This time was, I'm going to last on the beach and 30
margaritas
Kari (06:11):
and do, and just do nothing.
Like it was such a good time.
Um, meet
Casey (06:15):
people and hang out.
We met some people.
Kari (06:17):
We did we met we met some really cool people.
Um, we met shots, which fuckthat guy.
Fuck that guy.
Constant.
Casey (06:26):
I think they have the podcast now.
So maybe that was the episode.
Yeah.
Kari (06:30):
And they'll know I'm talking.
I
Casey (06:31):
was the one that was giving everybody shots over and
over and over again.
Look,
Kari (06:35):
I only lost four hours of one day.
And a phone on my charger,plugged into
Casey (06:42):
the wall,
Kari (06:43):
lost it, dude.
I, I, we had a great timethough.
We did stuff in our plunge poolthat we
Casey (06:50):
fucked
Kari (06:51):
everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, including on the
beach.
Oh my God.
We got to fuck on the beach.
It was amazing.
Yeah, because when you go outthere, like all of the like
canopies and the different likebeds and stuff, they remain.
And I was like, okay, sold, butyou walk out there and like,
there's no guards, there's no,like, so it is kind of like
enter at your own risk, butwhatever, I don't give a shit.
(07:11):
We were fine.
And we went into like one atfirst and then.
Like moved over to like thismore like secluded one and it
took us like five seconds ofbeing at that one and we were
fucking and I don't think thatwe even established that we were
going on the beach to have sex.
That was not, we were just goingout there to the beach.
And as soon as we saw the otherone and we laid down, it was
like instantly, we
Casey (07:32):
were going, this is, yeah, but still is that there's
that air of anyone can walk by,which is clearly a turn.
Kari (07:39):
Yeah, I did not mind that at all.
And then it was like there wasprobably going on at the resort
there.
There was, yeah.
There's a big, so we hear likemusic in the background where we
have like these waves going andthen the sky, I mean it was just
black.
And so there's all these stars.
I saw a shooting.
Shooting.
Ooh, that's not good.
That's not good to say.
I saw a shooting star That onewas difficult.
(07:59):
You got it out this way.
I did.
Uh, which is rare for me.
Uh, I, you know, never get tofucking see those.
So it was just a really magical,like night, but it was a great
fuck.
And I don't know, actually, whatdid I say?
I don't get to fucking see them.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know, man.
I don't know, but we, we had areally good time and it was just
(08:20):
a good escape for us to be ableto like recharge.
And we were also like, so oddly.
Yeah.
Connected and on the same page.
It was so weird.
It was so weird.
Casey (08:32):
It was like, because of how on the same page we were
about everything we were, therewas no, no arguing.
There was no like pushback.
It was all just go with theflow.
Everything we did, we even, Ithink the most time we spent
apart was maybe 30 minutes.
Kari (08:51):
That was literally 30 minutes
Casey (08:53):
and then you were like, I'm gonna go back to the group
that we were hanging out with.
I was like, cool.
Um, I'm going to take a littlesocial battery recharge.
Like my introvert self was notthere yet.
Kari (09:03):
Yeah.
But I was also gone for likefive minutes and you're like, I
miss you.
Like, I, I, okay.
Cute.
I actually five minutes.
Fuck off.
I will go back through mymessages.
Exactly.
Casey (09:15):
Eventually made my way back out there.
We want a music trivia contest.
Oh yeah,
Kari (09:19):
we did.
With the captain.
Everyone has nicknames.
If you haven't noticed, right.
There's like shots.
There's captain there.
There was a few other, well, wehad the, this was, Not at the
resort, but we had FortLauderdale Um, Big cock and Fort
Lauderdale, very, very, you
Casey (09:37):
know, pleasant.
Um, what are they, what are theycalled?
Not flight, not flightattendants, but the person
that's at the desk, you know,calling.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those people who has keptpronouncing Fort Lauderdale as
Fort Lauderdale.
Kari (09:50):
And so we're all, we're just cracking up, which that's
kind of how it started,honestly.
And so it was just, it was greatfor us to be able to go and have
a really good time and come upwith all these different like
memories and like fun, little,like.
Nicknames to the people that wehung out with.
And we just, we really had agood time.
I mean, there was one point thatyou like went up to the bar and
(10:11):
I text you like, you're sohandsome.
The exact minute that you textme something along those lines,
like in the exact minute we weretexting each other, the same
thing.
It was cool.
Casey (10:24):
I was
Kari (10:29):
about to say, do you think that we were so spicy during
our, uh, Like trip because wewent there listening to spicy
books beforehand.
Casey (10:39):
I
Kari (10:43):
told him not to say spicy earlier.
Well, that's not because of theword it's because of your
speech.
Yes, it was the S and the C init.
That's kind of funny to hear yousay.
Casey (10:58):
One of the things that we like to do is that we are both.
Into erotica, you know, youusually see the basics online,
right?
Where it's always like the wifeis into the erotica and then
she's the one reading the spicy.
Yeah, I read them too.
And Carrie actually got me intomore of them.
Whenever she started reading theoh, so popular ACOTAR series, I
(11:19):
went, you know what?
I'm going to read that one too.
And so it was like book for bookwith us going through the same
exact ones.
And we finished the Well, theseries so far on that one.
And so then we started dippinginto the other ones and now
we've kind of diverged a littlebit, a little bit, but you're
now reading the fourth wing, thefourth wing.
Kari (11:36):
Yes.
I just finished the first one.
Casey (11:38):
And then I'm going through the latest one that I've
just, I'm about to finish is adowry of blood
Kari (11:43):
and you heard from that, from, uh, from our friend,
right?
Yeah.
Casey (11:46):
Yes.
Our friend Moose,
Kari (11:48):
lazy Moose.
Casey (11:49):
We, I heard about that one.
That one is insanely goodbecause it's, it is kind of
poetic.
It's very, it's very.
Literary and it's the story ofDracula, but told through the
eyes of his brides.
But one of his brides inparticular, but it tells a story
about like how each of them cameto be.
And so my suggestion is that ifyou're, if you're a poly
(12:11):
positive, then read that one.
Yeah.
Go to that one because it'sinteresting.
It is interesting.
Um,
Kari (12:15):
And the way, even the way that you're describing it was
funny.
Cause I had sent a message andI, and I always said, that's a
question.
When you're reading one of thosebooks is like, how spicy is it?
How far are they going?
And it was literally a minute.
He was like, nah, it's not thatbad.
And then he was like, Oh shit.
It's
Casey (12:31):
not really sexual about it now.
Within a couple minutes on,okay, nevermind, scratch that.
Kari (12:39):
But you're also describing like a scene.
Earlier.
Um, and I think it's kind ofwhat like brought up, like us
talking about some of this onthe show, but it was even them
like talking about like theirrelationship between the, the
other women and the type of bondthat's created.
And it's just so nice to seethat like in a book that's also
(12:59):
so heavily sexually charged.
Casey (13:01):
Yes.
With it being so sexuallycharged, it was, I don't know
why I'm drawing blinks oncharacter names right now.
I was Matt Madeline Magdalena.
Okay, but it's it's Dracula'sfirst bride.
She's talking about Draculaintroducing her to Magdalena how
much jealousy she felt towardsher because He kept telling her
(13:21):
that she was just a friend, thatit was nothing there.
And then eventually he veryclearly starts manipulating her
into accepting Magdalena as asister and as in, as the next
bride.
But then her and Magdalena'srelationship starts to evolve.
And so.
She puts it in a way essentiallysaying that she realized that
(13:43):
her love for Dracula ran as deepas it did for Magdalena.
And if she can do that, then itwas able to get her to realize
that so could he.
So it was, it was like thisinteresting little, like.
Kari (13:54):
Snip bit into Polly, right?
Casey (13:56):
Yeah.
This little look into Pollybeing like, cool.
Anybody that's like, kind ofcurious that.
Here's, here's something to lookinto.
Here's something to read about.
Kari (14:04):
Minus the minute, the Dracula manipulation, obviously.
But it's not something
Casey (14:10):
that they like veiled.
No, I know.
The author of S.
T.
Gibson, who wrote it, really,really kind of shows you.
It's not something that'shidden.
It's not something that lateryou realize, Oh shit, he
manipulated her.
It's like, it's very clear thatthat's.
So, but that, I mean, that'skind of what our topic is going
on today.
Um, in fact, we're about to turnyou over here in just a couple
(14:31):
of minutes to our interview forthe day.
Kari (14:34):
Yep.
We have, uh, another author.
Um, very excited to have her on.
Her name is Jade Green.
And if you were familiar withone of our episodes in the past
where we had the other author onthat was, uh, Shay, Shay Kuhn.
Um, she was the one that endedup referring us over to, to Jade
Green.
Yeah,
Casey (14:50):
Shay had been like, Hey, I have somebody else.
We've been trying to get Jade onthe podcast.
Yeah, it's been a minute.
As you said earlier, life haslife.
Kari (15:00):
Life is lifing, man.
It has been difficult, but weended up getting her on and, uh,
we're going to have an interviewwith her coming up right after
this.
Casey (15:08):
So stay tuned.
You want to go ahead and turn itover?
Yep.
Let's do it.
All right.
So check this out.
This is our interview withauthor Jade Green, who is the
author of the disorderly conductseries.
So enjoy it.
casey (2) (15:19):
All righT.
Well, thank you for joining usthis afternoon with, with
myself, Dr.
Casey Sanders.
And I'm Carrie Sanders.
And we are, we have a pleasuretoday to bring us back into the
real world.
of erotic fiction, mostlyfiction, with our new friend and
author Jade Green.
Jade, welcome to the show.
Jade (15:38):
Hello.
Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah.
casey (2) (15:42):
We're happy to have you here and we're happy to hear
more about what's going on.
So, we have two of your bookshere.
Um, if I'm correct, the firstone, this is the Disorderly
Conduct series.
With the first one being thecollege edition and the second
one being the deployment editionAnd then you have a forthcoming
book, which is the missionedition.
Is that right?
Jade (16:03):
Yeah Um, so that one is coming out really soon.
It took me a bit to likefinalize but it's It'll probably
be out before the end of theyear.
It's that close to being Done,so i'm so excited
Kari (2) (16:15):
how perfect to be on the show then right now like
plug that away, baby Exactly soyou start with us and then
you'll finish with us right likeyou'll come back on after the
the right it'll be perfect
Jade (16:30):
Well, yeah, that sounds awesome.
Kari (2) (16:33):
No, we're so excited to have you on.
And we've been wanting to haveyou on for a while, but then
life has gotten like life, life,you know, life, life, right?
Like
Jade (16:42):
we worked hard to make today happen.
That's that's what I told Gary.
I'm like, this was a groupeffort to make sure we can
casey (2) (16:49):
do this.
And we did this through liketrying to schedule.
And then we went through a moveand all sorts of just mishaps
that delayed us.
And then all sorts of stuff.
So, but we are here today.
Jade, we've got you on the show.
We're super excited to do thisinterview, uh, because we've
been able to be introduced tothese books, but I want you to
take a minute.
To introduce readers andlisteners to your books.
Jade (17:11):
Oh yeah.
So first and foremost, um,before I'm anything, I like to
say that I'm Jade Green, Green,I am a erotica author,
specifically a humorous eroticaauthor.
Um, I take pride in not onlyturning on people, but I want to
make them laugh as well.
And it just brings me so muchjoy to do both of those things.
Uh, I got started five yearsago, or six years ago, I got
(17:36):
started on my first manuscript.
And, um, I wasn't sure whichgenre I wanted to write.
It actually started as a memoirand then I pivoted and it turned
into a humorous erotica and I'mso glad I did that because I was
really able to reach in andlike, see where I, my creativity
could take me both in anarousing way and a comedic way
(17:57):
and I love that balance that I,I try to maintain in the book.
In the second series, uh, or inthe second book of the series.
So I have two books so far,Disorderly Conduct College
Edition, as Casey said, and thenDisorderly Conduct Deployment
Edition out.
Um, the first one is a muchfunnier read.
The second one still has a lotof comedy in it, but it's more
(18:18):
like, it reads more of adramedy.
A satirical dramedy, so ups anddowns.
casey (2) (18:24):
Yeah, because the second one is about, I mean,
it's about humanitarianism onsome level.
It's like going into a hurricanezone with a bunch of people and
like helping out while alsoexploring the sexual side of
things.
Jade (18:39):
Yeah, um, and what made me write that, like, and what I
love about fiction, this is aperfect example of it.
Um, so my books are looselyinspired by my life and I say
loosely because I had to add andchange and really make the story
for, uh, my protagonist, Ari.
(18:59):
I always tease with people.
I'm like, Ari is, in thefictional universe, my daughter.
So, we share so many qualities.
Like, she's literally my size,she's my height, and she's my
stature, black hair, um, butshe's also different.
Um, I tried to make her moreextreme.
I try to make her more, um,like, even more intense when she
(19:22):
goes through her feelings.
So when she's in a state whereshe's being immature and she's
being cocky, I try to make heras egotistical, cocky, like, the
biggest bully in her life youcould think of, both to herself
and to other people.
And then on the flip side ofthat, when she goes, uh, it's
funny, in the first book, um, Imake a few things happen to her
(19:44):
that kind of humble her and makeher step back from herself to
realize, like, Oh, there's moreto life than titles.
There's more to life than beingthe cool girl or being the hot
girl or being Whatever being themost sexually desirable person
in the room And so it leads heron a journey to be like well
What can go alongside that likeI can still have that part of me
(20:04):
But what can I do to go alongwith that?
So I traumatized my child likeany good author parent right You
know, that's why it's fictionit's Gotta put them through the
ringer and the second book isreally Like the first book,
she's 21.
Her mindset is all aboutpartying.
She just wants to have fun.
(20:26):
She wants to be cool.
She wants to be deemed worthy.
Like a lot of us at that age,whether or not, right.
I mean, I don't know if youremember, I hated that age.
Like, to me, I think everyonesaw what I had, like, even me as
a beauty queen, like, goingthrough that.
In real life, I hated being,like, 18 to 22.
(20:48):
I just felt so Pure pressuredand so impressionable and very,
um, socially anxious to boot.
Kari (2) (20:55):
Yeah, I say I will never go back to that age in my
life.
Like that stage, I'm good.
I don't, I don't pity anyone init.
I would never go back.
The closer now I get to 40 isactually the more excited I get.
Cause like that phase is hardand, and like, it really shaped.
It's kind of your neck, thatnext phase, right?
It is really important to gothrough it, but I'm done on
(21:17):
that.
Jade (21:19):
And we're all prone to it, you know, whether it's like peer
pressure for sex or drugs orjust being at a party, you don't
want to be at all that
casey (2) (21:28):
stuff.
Any idea growing up, how manyparties I went to where I was
like, Fucking be here.
Are those the
Kari (2) (21:33):
same ones that you threw or?
Oh, okay.
casey (2) (21:38):
He's like, I'd rather them come to me, right?
True.
And I felt like I just wanted toleave the entire time.
Kari (2) (21:47):
So, so what, what would you say in that era is
when you kind of decided thatyou wanted to write books or
where were you at in that?
Like, when did you come to beinglike, I want to write these like
satirical, like sexy time books?
Actually books
Jade (22:03):
weirdly on deployment.
Um, I came back from my firstone Like, so my first
deployment, this is where Ari,my protagonist, has a way better
time than I do.
I also give her some treatswhere in real life, I, I had it
way worse than how it is in thebook.
So, so in the second book, whileshe's on deployment, um, it's
(22:27):
interesting.
She, first book, she's more oflike crazy swinger.
Second book, she meets, One guywho she's like very, well, a
couple guys, but like in eachphase where she's back at home,
she has one boyfriend whereshe's on deployment.
She meets one guy and she's moresticking to like what, what
normally happens to, again, mid20 year olds.
You kind of gravitate to lesspeople, but better quality
(22:48):
people that more fit what you'relooking for.
Um, so second book, she's like25 to 27 and, It's, it's
interesting because it's like, Iactually didn't hook up on the
second deployment until the veryend, until we were let go.
And the reason why is because itwasn't even a, it wasn't even a
morally righteous decision.
(23:09):
It's, in real life, when you'resleeping in tents, Outside,
without plumbing, um, you don'treally want to have sex, and
it's not because other peoplearen't sexy, it's because it's
gross.
Like, you know, I did not wantto, I didn't want to fuck
people, especially since we wereall, all of us were just nasty,
(23:30):
and there were actually Theyfound ticks, they found flea,
they found a ton of bugs, too,on base camp, which is natural,
you know, we're staying outsidein a hurricane zone, so they,
there's nothing they could do toprevent stuff like that before
it happened,
casey (2) (23:44):
so, in the book, causing a situation.
Yeah.
To And everything you'redescribing, it's not something
you're like, man, I can notwait.
I get that.
Jade (23:56):
Yeah.
Like, and that's why in thebook, she's fucking like crazy
in deployment.
But it's funny because it'slike, when people ask me about
that, they're like, man, thatmust've been great.
I'm like, actually, no, like Idid not.
Once we were let go andrelieved, we were all staying in
hotels the day after we werelike released from duty.
So in that setting, it's like,yeah, I did hook up with, With a
(24:17):
handsome dude on deployment, butnot during the period where I
was like, did you at least getto
Kari (2) (24:22):
like flirt a lot?
Cause that can be just as fun,you know, and then like building
that anticipation, like you waituntil I shower, you just wait,
you know?
Yeah.
Jade (24:34):
That's definitely, we had, so it was us Red Crossers.
Like I was with Red Cross foryears, uh, volunteering and I
helped with Irma.
And then the third book, isbased on Maria.
I helped in Maria in PuertoRico.
So they had like securityguards.
who were like pretty much ourage.
They were like a lot ofdifferent like Marines and like
(24:57):
former military dudes that weregood looking and young.
So it was very easy to justexchange numbers and yeah, end
up hooking up in the end.
casey (2) (25:07):
I know.
And then your second one, Ithink it's near the end of the
book, you describe a foursomebetween a few, a few of the
people that were, that werethere, right?
Jade (25:16):
Yeah, so um, that, that was a different experience in
real life.
I can say it was a groupactivity, but it was, it was a
slightly different experience.
Again, for storytelling, becauseit's like, I like to write her
own story in a way, like I, atthis point, I'm one of those
authors that knows my ending andlike, I, I'm pretty much set on
(25:41):
like what I'm never going totell anyone.
So everybody has to read to theend of the book, but I know it.
So.
For me, I'm trying to lead itthere in a way that makes sense.
Um, and so yeah, in real lifethough, it was me and a bunch of
security guards
Kari (2) (25:59):
at the hotel.
You were so safe that night.
Choo choo! You were veryprotected.
Very proud of you.
I was so safe.
I was so safe
casey (2) (26:10):
in that train.
I love that.
So needless to say, you had agood time.
So, how much of this, I did, howmuch of this, it sounds to me
like you pull a lot of yourscenes from personal experience,
is that right?
Jade (26:26):
I do, like a decent amount, but also from like, oh,
I guess my Bluetooth is doingsome weird stuff.
Um, so yeah, like some of thethings, but also from like other
people's stories, like I'vedefinitely taken inspiration
from friend stories.
To put in little moments in thebook like maybe a smaller scene
(26:49):
that's like stupid and funnywouldn't have been my story
directly, but would have been afriend's story that like was
similar to it.
And I kind of, I like doing thatbecause to me, don't get me
wrong, memoirs are interesting,but like I'm very creative.
So I actually, when I'm readinga book, I'm not a big nonfiction
(27:09):
person.
I'm very creative.
Like, certain biographies I'veread, I've read Claire Barton's
biography, I've read KatherineSwitzer's biography, like,
people's like that, I'll read,but, I, I love fiction, I love,
like, the drama, the comedy,the, like, ridiculous moments
where you're like, that wouldnever happen in real life, and
that's the beauty of fictionwriting, that you can, like,
(27:30):
embellish and put things intoyour own stories and make it
into, like, this crazy, Big fishstory that like, maybe some of
it happened, but like most of itdidn't.
casey (2) (27:41):
Yeah.
That's
Jade (27:42):
really interesting.
Kari (2) (27:43):
Okay, sO I have my next question then.
And we kind of went on thesecute little tangents.
But I guess I'm wondering, like,did you always know that you
wanted to be an author?
Or like, where did you kind ofstart out?
And then when did you come tothat, like, conclusion?
Jade (27:58):
I loved writing, like, growing up.
I really liked fictional likeshort story writing and stuff
like that.
And that was like in mytwenties, like early twenties, I
started writing, um, financialarticles for like LinkedIn and
like, you know, just like mediumand stuff like that.
Like not as an employee, ofcourse, but like on LinkedIn,
you know, people will post theirown articles.
(28:20):
And I love doing that kind ofstuff, just like staying up to
date with the news and alsorelaying my information, but
that got really stale.
And I think my second deploymentcoming back from it.
Um, like I was really impacted,uh, just because I, I had never
seen people in that state.
(28:42):
Um, like, and that many people.
So while like, I was so happy toserve, I would step up and serve
again.
And a heartbeat, I actually justtried for a lean, but they
didn't need me.
Fortunately, that's a good thingthough.
Um, But, you know, it did, itchanged me so much.
And I think like, at that pointit wasn't, it's funny because it
(29:05):
wasn't like being a beauty queenthat made me want to write a
book.
I think like any author thatwrites a book off of their life,
like there's definitely a momentwhere like, you're like, damn,
like my life is crazy enough.
I should write a book.
And mine, mine was that likecoming back from deployment.
I'm like, Jesus.
Like.
People have no idea like, andthese aren't, I'm not
(29:26):
volunteering abroad.
I'm not volunteering in a, um,you know, a place that's, that's
not relatable.
These are Americans.
These are like, these are, are,are people.
And so like, when I saw that andespecially like the lack of
response from the government,like I'm not political, but I'm
very passionate about disasterresponse.
(29:49):
Like that's one political thingI'm passionate about because.
I don't really give a damn whatlegislators say if americans are
suffering like especially withnorth carolina and like even in
irma in irma's case exactly likeget people on the ground get
people there to help them getmoney in to help them because
You know these people they don'teven have water some of them
(30:11):
lose their big ones losing theirmedications um And so that
really drove me.
I'm like, man, like I shouldwrite about my life and do it in
a way like self, the selfishpart for me was like, I found, I
found therapy in it.
Um, that's great actually.
Kari (30:29):
For
Jade (30:32):
me, it was like a really good coping mechanism because it
was like, I needed a way toprocess it without making it
such a dark cloud in my mindbecause I love humanitarian
work, but part of humanitarianwork, you know, you are exposed
to crappy legislation and crappyresponse from local or even most
(30:53):
of the time, federal localgovernments are great.
Usually they're like on theirshit, but you know, FEMA,
unfortunately, They're theslowest to respond.
So for me, that was a bigmotivation.
I was like, you know what, Ineed a positive way to process
all this and a way to liketransmute it into something good
for society and myself.
casey (2) (31:15):
So then, so then, what inspired blending erotica
in with these very like realstories of, of like disaster?
What, where, where is the,where's the source of that, that
we can kind of unite theeroticism with like these
humanitarian efforts?
Jade (31:34):
Well, so in the first book, um, and in my own life
when I was in college, I was, Idon't know how my luck got me
this, but like I had a literalgroup of swinger friends,
partially poly.
I didn't, we didn't know what wewere.
We did not label ourselves.
It was like a group of like, 10guys and girls that just fucked
(31:57):
each other and like were friendsand dated and like partied
together and, Mm-Hmm.
I kind of, yeah.
Like it was, I'm
casey (2) (32:04):
here for it.
A whole, a whole group of
Kari (2) (32:06):
go on, go on
Jade (32:09):
And back then, like, this was like 2009 two, 2009 to 2011.
So like there wasn't as muchinformation Yeah.
About polyamorous.
So we just were like, we're justa bunch of sluts that like are
friends.
Like that's what.
What we just like leave allourselves at.
I
Kari (2) (32:28):
love that for y'all.
Maybe I should have gone tocollege.
Jesus.
casey (2) (32:34):
I know.
Where was this?
This was
Kari (2) (32:35):
not at the community college.
I swear it was not.
Oh my
Jade (32:39):
gosh.
I went to school in Baltimore atan all women's college and we
were surrounded.
There's like.
30 colleges in Baltimore.
So it's just like, got itdominated by 18 to 22 year olds.
So on the bright side at age, Iwas constantly swinging, getting
BBG threesomes.
(33:00):
Like by the time it was 21, Ialready had my first like 4g
with or 5g with guys.
I had four guys.
casey (2) (33:08):
So you've had, like, you had the experience, like
anything, any of those stuffwhere you see right here,
they're like these crazy, wildstories and people are like,
wow, that happens in the movies.
You're going, no, no, itdoesn't.
Kari (2) (33:19):
That's just my Tuesday.
I am so proud of you.
I think that's amazing.
Jade (33:26):
And for me too, like, so going back to how deployment
sex, all that, how it ties in.
Um, you know, I had to re find,for me, like, finding, re
finding my sexuality and myselfafter deployment was a
challenge, so, like, I think, inthe book, I try to make it where
it's kind of a healing presencein the second book.
(33:47):
In the first book, it's just herdrug.
She is OD'ing on sex witheverybody and fucking everybody
and having a good time.
The second book though, she'sapproaching sex and using sex in
her life more as like a healingand coping and connecting tool.
So it's, that's where I like tokind of switch it up where it's
like she's still enjoying it andshe's still having a foursome, a
(34:08):
swap.
Um, but it's, it's with a moreethical and, you know, Chill
mindset.
casey (2) (34:15):
Yes, coming in her own learning more about, you
know, sex positivity andprinciples of healthy sex and
Instead of just fuckingeverybody.
Jade (34:26):
Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong like that's fun I'd like
at 20 when you have nothingbetter to do than just like be
studying or fucking somebody Butyeah, like we,
casey (2) (34:39):
we maintain a heavy message on our show of sex
positivity and we always haveour biggest rules are as long as
there's consent, comfort andcommunication, go for it.
Are you being safe about it?
Cool.
Do you have fun?
Jade (34:52):
It's easier with, with age for short.
Cause I feel like at that age,people, people are more likely
to lie in those circles andstuff.
And I mean, there's always thatin older circles as well, but I
mean, at least There's morematurity among the 30s and 40s
swingers than the 20s hookupcrew.
casey (2) (35:11):
Yeah.
Luckily we're starting to likekind of shift things.
That's one of the, uh, one forus is like comprehensive sex
education for youngergenerations to allow them to
come up into being 18, 20, 22,and be able to still participate
in these things.
If you'd like doing it in a waywhere you can do it safely and
not have to worry so much.
Jade (35:31):
Yeah.
I mean, and that's what I likedhaving a group because it really
minimized risk of like STD orlike it at least buffered the
unplanned pregnancy thing,because none of those guys were
strangers.
Like they were friends and stillare like, some of them still are
my friends.
Um, and some of the girls aswell, like, we're all just a lot
(35:53):
of us are still friends, so itnegated the risk a little bit,
but it is harder, like, I amfinding it hard, especially
being so new to a city.
It's hard to find a new grouplike that because people are
some people are totally carelessand I've heard of people not
testing at all or even worsefaking.
(36:15):
Results so that they can getinto circles.
Yeah.
casey (2) (36:19):
The vetting process is super important, but I'm, you
know, it is, we've, we've donethe episodes before about trying
to find your social circlewithin a sex positive community
and how difficult that can belike, and we get it.
We have listeners all the time,right.
Writing us in who are like, Hey,I'm interested in like forming a
polycule or I'm interested in,in exploring this certain act of
bondage.
But I'm having trouble findingpeople that I feel comfortable
(36:41):
with, or I don't even know whereto begin outside of going to
like a local dungeon or sexclub.
And so it's a difficult one tonavigate for sure.
But like, once you get in, likeyou said, you had that core
group of people, which I'm surewould make for a great reunion
20 years later.
I
Jade (36:59):
am not going to lie.
Two of the guys live in LA andevery time I'm over, Hey guys,
but they're, They're busy.
They're both professors.
I can't see the schools, butthey're both professors over
there.
casey (2) (37:11):
They're
Kari (2) (37:12):
professors.
Holy shit.
That's amazing.
That sounds like another book.
That sounds like another book.
Jade (37:20):
I don't think those two ever like, oh man, the, the
lore, the Jade sex lore goes,right.
I don't think those two everbanged me together, but I'm
pretty sure one of them was inthe other room when the other.
Five of them or other four ofthem were banging me.
Yeah, he was they never likehooked up with me together But
(37:41):
they both hooked up with otherguys in the group with me That's
how like
Kari (37:47):
yeah
Jade (37:48):
It's like a 10 person 11 person group.
Yeah
casey (2) (37:52):
It sounds like a dream, doesn't it?
I mean,
Kari (2) (37:54):
dream I had last night.
Jesus.
No.
So, okay.
I, I love how like sexually openyou are and you seem to be
someone that's been that way fora really long time.
Um, that's not super common.
And so that's what I'm saying.
Like.
I'm super proud of you.
I think that's bad ass that yougo out there and be who you are
and you're very real to say it.
And so that just kind of had mewondering earlier, how has your
(38:17):
like friends and family kind oflike understood your writings
and who you are?
Maybe they don't know.
casey (2) (38:24):
We know about the friends.
Kari (2) (38:25):
Yeah, true.
Some of the friends, not all thefriends that was just the 10
group, right?
There's other friends, but I'mjust curious how it's been like,
you know, received.
Jade (38:35):
Yeah.
Um, it's interesting because.
I'm not the first author in myfamily.
Uh, there's another publishedauthor.
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sayher name because I know, like,
with my stuff.
I don't want to bombard herprivacy, but she really inspired
me like in the first place tojust write.
And so I did.
And I was lucky cause I'm prettyclose to my family.
(38:58):
And once I wrote my book, like Idid tell my family and I was
just like, Hey, just letting youknow, like this probably isn't
going to go anywhere, but likein case somebody on Facebook in
your friend group or whatever,like sees it, I was like, just
so you know, like, I'm writing,you know, erotica, and it's just
something that I can do on theside of my job.
(39:20):
It's just something I like todo.
I just enjoy doing it.
And, um, they were reallyaccepting of it.
Actually.
They were, they were prettyaccepting.
I know my, um, my mom was like,I want to buy your books, but
I'm never going to read them.
I'm like, that's fine.
That is the
Kari (2) (39:35):
best supportive mother in the world.
Then don't embarrass me byreading them, but buy them off
the shelves, please.
Jade (39:42):
She's like, and then, um, What was really flattering was
she actually bought them for herfriends and stuff.
So that was really cool.
And her friends did read it andthey told her, they were like,
it's amazing.
And I'm like, that's adorable.
Kari (2) (39:56):
Here you go.
My daughter's sex book.
Jade (39:58):
Um, no, they liked it.
They thought I did, did a goodjob in it.
Uh, my cousins, they like arereally proud of me, but I think
when I was a teenager though,see, here's the thing, like, it
was a struggle to.
It was a struggle to get intolike a healthy mindset with sex
because for a while likeespecially my early 20s and like
(40:21):
Late teenage.
I, it was more like rebelling,more narcissistic backed.
I mean, especially at that agewhen you're like ego is just the
size of a room.
And, um, it sucks because like,especially as a teenager, I was
never into partying, um, and wasnever into, I didn't even smoke
weed until college actually.
(40:41):
Um, so I was a very straightedge, nervous, socially anxious,
sexual, but socially anxious,nervous, um, studious person.
And, I got so much shit.
What's crazy is the kids thatwere breaking the laws and like
maybe beating up theirgirlfriend, their girlfriend,
like I went to a very small townschool in the middle of nowhere,
(41:01):
Pennsylvania, and it's likegirls would walk in with like a
big bruised eye and nobody wouldsay anything about like her
boyfriend beating on her, butit's like me giving a blow job.
Like to my boyfriend orwhatever, somewhere at a party
was like, you know, sounds
casey (2) (41:17):
like we all went to, we were all in school around the
same time.
And so, yeah, we, we both wentto a smaller town.
And it was the same kind ofsituation.
It was the same kind ofsituation.
Rumors flying, but they werenever about like the stupid shit
that the guys were doing.
It was always like, what thegirls did.
What?
Look at this girl.
(41:37):
She's a slut.
She's a whore that because shehad sex with her boyfriend.
So it was, it's, it wasdefinitely an interesting time
to unfortunately experience, uh,a lot of
Kari (2) (41:48):
that.
Yeah.
Jade (41:50):
It, um, I don't miss it at all.
And college was really the firsttime.
That's why I think it was soespecially transformative for me
because it's like, not only was.
Like especially as a beautyqueen, not only was I happy with
my appearance and where I wasn'tlike, like I'm so proud of
myself.
I mean, cause I never thought Iwould have been like, I really,
if you went back to 20 year oldme and we're like, do you really
(42:12):
think you'll win a state beautypageant?
I would have been like, fuck no,but like, I'm going to try.
And like, I was a very, I never,I was really hard on myself.
And so I think that coupled withthe fact that I was not used to
having a healthy, Sexenvironment like that really
helped me flourish as both likejust a person a friend a
(42:32):
girlfriend and I'm like anauthor.
Yeah, totally Yeah, thank youcollege friends for banging me
into health
Kari (2) (42:39):
Whipping you into shape
casey (2) (42:41):
You have the two books out.
You have the, the next onecoming.
Uh, and then you mentionedearly, you said that you have an
end in mind.
Like where's, like clearlywithout sharing any, any details
with us, how, how far did youplan on taking this?
Jade (42:55):
I am going to write at least two more books after the
third.
So I have a fourth book plan andthen I think a fifth book plan.
Um, but there's two topics.
I know like people are curiousIf I was going to write, so it's
interesting because I started inlike the adult industry as like
a dancer before I was an authorand I never wrote about it.
(43:18):
And I know people were likewondering like, am I going to
write about that?
Or am I going to write aboutlike my current endeavor of like
adult acting?
And it's like, I don't think Ishould.
And the reason why is becauselike, I am, I'm such a rare
demographic and I don't feellike it's fair.
And let me clarify it.
Like, The family thing is aprivilege that so many people,
(43:40):
like, and even erotica authors,like, you know, I've lost at
least one, I've lost a job threeyears ago or two years ago when
I like first was publishing.
My boss found out I was writingerotica and I got fired.
Um, so, you know, it does happenwhere it's like people don't
have support and I don't want towrite about it from my frame
(44:02):
point.
Cause I just think it's veryinappropriate and that it would
not, it would not do a good jobpainting the life of someone
normally on average.
Someone in that community.
Kari (2) (44:13):
Okay.
I can understand that honestly.
I agree with that.
Jade (44:17):
and I'm, I am not lost on the fact that, like, there are
some people, like I've met somany dancers or adult actresses
where it's like, they havenobody to like, go to like, They
don't even have a spouse orboyfriend or anything like on
holidays.
And it's like, I, you know what,that's one rare thing I have.
So I am not going to.
(44:37):
use it for bad or like use it toprop myself up whenever people
have different situations andyou know sometimes friend groups
can be just as good as biofamily and yeah of course
casey (2) (44:48):
yeah absolutely absolutely and you know we we've
talked to a number of peoplethat have gone through various
industries uh or various aspectsof the adult industry we've
heard we've heard it all we'veheard people that were
completely shunned by theirfamilies We've had people that
were celebrated by theirfamilies.
We've had people that like, Ithink that we had a previous
guest on and she had said, shewas like, my dad's one of my
biggest supporters.
(45:11):
I'm over here.
Jade (45:12):
That's like my mom.
She's like, I'm not looking atyour book, but
Kari (2) (45:17):
I'm so supportive of it.
Jade (45:19):
But yeah, the rest of them are awesome.
casey (2) (45:22):
Yeah, we're super excited to see where you go from
here.
It sounds like you've got areally good foundation here with
your books and everything thatyou're working on outside of
that.
In fact, we like kind of are inmany talks about continuing this
discussion on a later date tolook at your other endeavors.
Uh, for now we definitely wantedto really focus on, on this book
(45:42):
series and, and like kind ofwhere it came about.
So thank you so much for theinformation today.
Anybody that's wanting to, toread these books, get a hold of
you, or like take a look at anyof what you do, how would they
get in contact with you?
Jade (45:57):
Yeah, so I have an ex, or Twitter, I like saying Twitter.
Yeah,
Kari (46:03):
I know.
Jade (46:05):
You know, Jake Green books, um, J A D E, Green with
an extra E at the end books, andthen, um, Author jade green on
Instagram.
So both of those spots.
casey (2) (46:16):
Perfect.
And if they wanted to purchaseone of your books, how would
they do that?
Jade (46:20):
Ooh, you can check them out on Amazon and actually both
the ebook.
I think of the first and secondand the audible book of the
first are.
Free with a trial of Kindle orAudible.
So if you don't have one and youwant one, get a free trial.
casey (2) (46:37):
Carrie, thank you for sharing.
Jade (46:38):
I
Kari (2) (46:39):
love
Jade (46:39):
that.
For our
Kari (2) (46:43):
YouTube people, they can see it.
Jade (46:47):
Vanna Whiting, very finely.
casey (2) (46:49):
Awesome.
Jade, thank you so much forcoming on today.
We look forward to talking toyou in the future for yet
another episode.
Here we are.
I'm Dr.
Casey Sanders, and I'm
Kari (2) (46:57):
Carrie Sanders.
I'll
casey (2) (46:58):
see you all next time.
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