Segment: The Spirit and Mind: Understanding Your True Self

Have you ever wondered why some people seem to effortlessly attract opportunities while others constantly chase and struggle? The answer may lie in understanding the difference between your true spiritual identity and the false self you've been programmed to believe is you.

This enlightening conversation delves deep into the mechanics of spiritual identity, using the powerful metaphor of spirit as water held back by a dam of false self-perception. When we remain trapped behind this dam, disconnected from our true nature, we become "addicted to struggling" – much like a royal heir raised in the ghetto, unaware of their heritage and divine birthright. The mind functions as canals connecting back to our spiritual source, but programming from parents, schools, and religious institutions often creates distorted pathways that lead us further from authenticity.

Religious traditions themselves act merely as containers – different cups holding the same spiritual water. Yet humanity fights endless battles over the containers while missing the identical content within. A true spiritual practitioner understands that genuine identity transcends labels and includes all others, regardless of their religious affiliations. Your physical body itself is a "church," and internal spiritual connection matters infinitely more than external religious performances. The symptoms of disconnection manifest as lower-frequency emotions: anger, fear, jealousy, and anxiety. But as you evolve toward higher "spirit frequency," something remarkable happens – you develop spiritual magnetism. Instead of chasing experiences and opportunities, you naturally attract them through your authentic presence. Ready to stop struggling and start shining? This conversation offers a roadmap back to your true self, where abundance naturally flows toward you rather than constantly eluding your grasp.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
In fact, my beloved brother, I will make it much
more clearer.
See, we have spirit, and thatis the water in bulk, and the
dam is there.
That is the beginning of falseidentity.
So from there down, the dramais there.
Everything is set, but thewater is stuck there, that is

(00:20):
spirit.
The water is stuck there, thatis spirit.
Then within, from the source ofwater, down the canals, we call
them mind.
So once everything can work,there must be connection of the
mind to the spirit.
So we have evolution.

(00:40):
That means you are movingtowards spirit frequency.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
And your identity is changing because down here, how
you call yourself is different.
When you are moving towardsspirit frequency, how you call
yourself is also different.
It's not just your name.
I'm talking of inwardlyaccepting who you are.
Let me give you a small analogy.

(01:06):
Somebody is a royal and helives home, travels far away,
and he's growing up and he's ina hostel somewhere.
Meanwhile they are looking forhim to become a chief or a king.
That's right.
And he's not aware and he'sliving in the ghettos and
struggling and baffling.

(01:28):
So when his identity, he hasforgotten his identity as a
royal, you see.
So there, as long as he's notawakening to who he is, it is
difficult for him to stopstruggling.
He becomes addicted tostruggling.
You see, Struggling becomesdifficult for him to stop
struggling.
He becomes addicted tostruggling.
See, struggling becomes normalfor him over then he hustles

(01:51):
from birth.
Yeah, we are programmed.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
so we take the kids you know, crawl, walk, language,
our language, the language themother father speak.
That's what they teach thechild their way of doing things.
That's what they teach thechild their way of doing things.
That's what they program thatchild to do, sure, and then the
kid go to school, go to church,mosque, wherever the things are
happening there.
The school system tells themthat they can become a doctor,
lawyer, you know all thosethings.

(02:14):
This is a heavy programming.
The only thing they see aroundthem is to become a doctor.
How do you tell this personthat that is not the path they
were supposed to take?
But then everything else wasalready available for them.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
The truth is this it's not a question of the path
being wrong, but what it is is aself-identity is wrong.
One can be positioned.
Let me give you an example.
You are born into a Christianhome, fine, so you'll be given
Christian upbringing.
Yes, christian home, fine, soyou'll be given Christian
upbringing.
But the identity you arepicking as a Christian, a true

(02:49):
Christian doesn't really.
He has to have the values ofthe Christ, and the values of
the Christ don't have falseidentity.
So the build-up includes falseidentity and because of that,
even though you have that title,christian, it's not a true

(03:10):
Christian.
A true Christian knows that whohe is includes the others, even
if they have names like Muslim,buddhist, this, that or
traditionalist.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
There's no separation .

Speaker 1 (03:25):
The rejuve includes them, you see.
So let me give you a smallexample.
When you say Christian,somebody says a Muslim.
Now, when you bring twoChristians together one
Christian, another Christian,the result is two Christians,
isn't it?
At the same time, if you bringone Muslim plus one Muslim, it

(03:48):
will be two Muslims, yeah, butif you bring one Christian plus
one Muslim, what is the answer?
Two, what Human beings?
Two human beings.
It should have been one humanbeing plus one human being.
Then it's two human beings, butone Christian versus one Muslim

(04:09):
.
Impossible mathematics, you see.
What it is is that it is thefalse side we are projecting.
The true Christian doesn't havethe false side, the false
identity.
The false identity is so humbleand understands that the one
you are calling God is insidethe other.

(04:30):
So, in that wise, it is twohuman beings, you see.
So I'm trying to get you tosome point.
So, in this way, if you havethe true identity of yourself,
you want to do something foryourself.
Yourself includes the others,you see so, and there's no
selfishness.
Sometimes we cut, we cut theothers out and we define I am

(04:56):
this and he is that, and that iswhere crashing, and all these
things you think that's thatforms part of our major problems
?
yes, major problem because it'sthe false side.
How did the false side of thereligion come about?
You see, the truth has to havea container.
It's like water, so thetradition takes the truth inside

(05:19):
it, like you put water in a cup, but there is difference
between the water and the cup,so the traditions around it
doesn't make it separate, itmakes it like it is separate
from the other cup, but thecontent is what matters.
And the content is the same,but the containers are different
.
And in this way, the falseidentity we hold to is the

(05:42):
container mine is a goldencontainer, yours is a metallic,
it's just something elsecontainer.
And we battle.
And with that false identityyou are not truly a Christian,
you are not truly a Muslim,because the teacher was about
the content.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
But then, doc, how do we break away from all of this?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yes, you see.
So these are indoctrination andbased on that a whole doctrine
enters people's lives.
We bring up the children andthere is all these coverings
around the religion, but theessence we don't hammer it, we
don't, we just even talk it, butwe don't hammer it, we don't,
we just even talk it but wedon't mean it, because the

(06:28):
external is projected so much.
Let's take this as some placesometimes understood by people
the number of times you aregoing to church.
It's like it's being marked bythe angels and it's like it's
actually making you somebody.
But that is not the truth.
The truth is this your very bodyand mind, your spirit, is

(06:50):
inside it.
So this is a church of its ownand if internally you are
connected, the spirit is notentangled and is relieved, then
you are saved.
Otherwise, you carry this bodyand mind into a church room and
you think the church room hasthe salvation, but it is right

(07:14):
here.
So you miss the point beforegoing to the church room.
You see, once you miss thepoint, what is the result?
The lower frequencies ofemotions like anger, fear,
jealousy, sadness, whatever.
They are all gripping you andthat is the symptom that you

(07:36):
haven't realized yourself,because the self is, beyond
these things, the fact that aperson is jealous en envious and
that shows that they haven'tachieved anxiety in the level of
self-realization it means youare still stuck with the lower
frequencies and that is theburden on every soul.
So some souls it is less on themand some it is stronger, and

(08:00):
those that it is less on theyare the ones empowered more than
the ones who are burdened morewith these things.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And the more these emotions keep you at the lower
frequencies, the less youattract.
Yes, why?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Because spirit is the supreme magnetism that is God.
So once you are nearing yourreal self, which is spirit
frequency, you are very magnetic.
And that's magnetism.
It doesn't make you chasethings, it draws things to you.
But when that is lowered,because we are mixed with the

(08:39):
worldly situation to the pointthat who we are is covered up,
then things become shiny, thingsbecome in our eyes, things are
like wonderful and we areattracted to it.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Rather, it should be the opposite realize yourself,
shine, the things are drawn toyou look, I think you have to
really break it down what thestatement you just made.
You have to really break itdown, the statement you just
made.
You have to really break itdown so that a 16-year-old that
is even listening to me will beable to understand.
Because shine and attract.
Let me break it down.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yes Say.
First of all, we have spiritand it has stepped down of its
energy, just as electricity wehave stepped down frequency.
So you step down the energy wecall electricity, so step-down
frequency goes on.
And the next level of functionwe call it mind.

(09:36):
So the difference between mindand spirit spirit is the source,
like the generator, and theenergy flow is step-down.
So the first step down iscalled higher mind and then,
when it steps down further, wecall it lower mind.
That lower mind, it is lowerbecause it has to hold on to the

(09:57):
lowest energies.
The lowest energies are what wesee.