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July 30, 2025 11 mins

Dive deep into one of the most elegant spiritual metaphors ever articulated: our souls as water contained in vessels of ice, all part of the same ultimate substance but vibrating at different frequencies. This profound conversation unpacks how we limit ourselves through false identification with our bodies and personalities, creating unnecessary suffering and blocked potential.

When we identify solely with our physical form—the "ice pot"—we cut ourselves off from our true expanded nature. Yet life's challenges often trigger the questions that begin our awakening: "Who am I? Why is this happening?" This questioning marks the beginning of a journey back to our authentic power. Surprisingly, formal education often has little correlation with this awakening, as many educated people remain trapped in status-based identities while some with little formal learning intuitively grasp their expanded nature.

The conversation illuminates the mechanics of manifestation through a fresh perspective on the Law of Attraction. Like needing both a door and window open for air to flow through a room, true abundance requires both spiritual awakening and aligned action. Every thought, word, and deed either entangles us further in limitation or sets us free. When we awaken to our true nature, we become "super magnetic," naturally attracting everything needed to fulfill our authentic purpose—activities we love that simultaneously serve others.

Ready to challenge your assumptions about identity and unlock your dormant potential? Listen now, and discover how this ancient wisdom can transform your experience of reality while living an engaged, purposeful life in the modern world. Share your insights and questions with our community as you begin recognizing the water beyond the ice in your own experience.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everything is the same, but it's frequencies.
When we say frequencies, theyvibrate differently.
That is why the vapor isvibrating differently, so very
high, and then water is the next, then ice block is the lowest
in vibration, like that.
So this way, if you have thepot made of ice block and some

(00:25):
of the water is inside it, thenthat water inside it is what we
call soul.
So it is part of the generalwater presence.
It's part of the general waterpresence, and the general water
presence is God.
So the water inside the pot isalso God in a sense.

(00:45):
That is why Christ said beperfect, even as the Father is.
That means you are having thatperfection, but you have false
identity, that I am a pot, I amice block, and what you are
identifying with is what youtell you say.
So it limits you.
Combine with is what you tellyou say, so it limits you.

(01:06):
But once you begin to say no, Iam water, then even the ice
block is part of you, even thevapor is part of you and you
become expanded presence, yousee, and such difference in
identity empowers you.
But once you are limitingyourself I'm in this pot, I am

(01:27):
just a limited presence, and soon, then, based on your identity
, what you are capable of doingis limited to how you identify
yourself.
So, if one awakens to the factthat, no, I'm not limited to
this pot.
Even the pot itself is part ofme in a sense, because in the

(01:50):
long run, if you melt it, it isme, it is water and I'm part of
all the general water everywhere.
So once that realization dawnsupon you, you become very
empowered.
So people are differentlyempowered because they don't
know, but some of them have alittle more awareness of

(02:12):
themselves than others.
You see, sometimes life eventshave a tendency of awakening you
to some point, for example,when you call yourself I'm this
limited being and you aresuffering, suffering, suffering.
You do things, you want to dothis.
It doesn't work.
Then sometimes it gets to apoint and you begin to question

(02:34):
who am I, where did I come fromand why is all these things
happening?
And once you begin like that,then it is like beginning to
turn around to realize who youare.
Some have begun, some do itwithout even thinking about it.
It's not part of the worldlyeducation.
Somebody may be illiterate, butit may be more awakened than

(02:56):
somebody else who may be evenknowledgeable about else,
because you may be knowledgeableabout the pot, various pots,
making comparisons and competing, this pot, this body and its
name and all this false identityis me and it makes you proud.
And it is actually unfortunatebecause you are limiting your

(03:20):
empowerment by so doing, becausethose things limit you rather.
You see, so we have um thetruth that wherever you find
yourself in this world, the veryfirst and natural fact you have
desires.
The desires are plenty.
Among all these plenty desires,whichever is carrying the

(03:42):
highest percentage, then theempowerment that is in you will
flow in that direction.
So the intensity of the desirescan be placed in percentages,
so the one which holds thehighest percentage, your spirit,
energy, where you defineyourself, even though you are

(04:02):
limiting yourself by a littlebit of that empowerment, may be
there and it will flow in thatdirection.
You see, wherever there isfocus, energy goes.
So it flows from within you andgoes in that direction.
Now, if one wants the highestsuccess, yes, the highest
success, then among all thedesires there should be one

(04:27):
desire for realizing who you are.
And that desire, if you canproject it very well, because
wherever focus goes, energy goes.
So if you really mean awaken tothat point seriously, who you
are, then it takes you toanother level, because energy
flows and awakens you like froma dream and then getting to be

(04:52):
aware every step, because spiritis aware, it's a awareness,
pure awareness, the spirit.
So as you become aware and youare empowered in fact that is
where we say seek first thekingdom, as christ was saying.
You see, he was telling thetruth, but they think it's in

(05:12):
the sky somewhere to look for it.
You see which is wrong?
So the truth is, spirit is theking and the subjects are the
step down frequency energies.
So awaken to your true self andthat is attainment of the
kingdom.
And now you are empowered andyou are magnetic, super magnetic

(05:34):
, and all the step downfrequencies they turn towards
you.
So as they turn towards you,whatever you are focused on
doing, then your magnetism willselect what will fulfill it Out
of the things turning towardsyou.
Everything in the world turnstowards you because you are

(05:54):
super magnetic and when it islike that, then your spirit will
select what you are required tofulfill your role in the drama.
If I say your role in the drama, what becomes what you love
doing and also what benefitsothers.
So what you love doing thatbenefits others immediately,

(06:18):
that becomes your role to play.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
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you gotta say that again becauseI'm catching something there.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yes, when the spirit, whatever role you are to play
in the world, when your spirit,when you are awakening, then
automatically your spirit turnsin the direction of something,
something, something that isit's connected with your role.
That is why, but in the process, if you understand that

(07:06):
awakening means you are comingto the point where you realize
your expanded presence and itincludes all others.
So, for that matter, what youare loving, what you are
interested in, must serve theothers.
And once it can do that, thenyou have opened both the door

(07:28):
and the window.
So the air will flow, both thedoor and the window and the
window, because if you open onlythe door, the air will not blow
, but you have to open both thedoor and the window.
Wow, so once you do this,automatic flow, automatic flow,
you don't even battle it tohappen, it just happens there is

(07:51):
a.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
You know, there's a concept that is out there for a
lot of people that are seekingfinancial success.
They would have come, yeah, incontact with this concept to ask
you a question about which isthe law of attraction.
It was described.
I first got to know about thisthrough bob proctor and you know
of pleasant memory and the bookcalled the first got to know
about this through Bob Proctorand you know of pleasant memory
and the book called the Secret,but we talk about this a lot the

(08:12):
law of attraction.
How does the law of attractionhelp people build financial
success?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Really the law of attraction.
It works hand in hand withcredit debit and people don't
know that truth also, you see,the law of attraction means you
are actually returning to.
In fact, life is a journey fromthe relative to the absolute.
So if you are retracing yourfour steps back to the absolute,

(08:41):
then you are getting empowered,then you are becoming magnetic,
you are becoming very powerful.
Now, when that is happening,it's like you have opened the
door now, but that doesn't meanriches will flow, okay.
But to open the window as well,because the room is there, you
open the door but still air willnot flow.

(09:04):
But now you open the window,the as you get empowered in
awakening or getting yourself-identity properly fixed.
The next thing is credit debit.
Every soul is carrying creditdebit on himself, and what it is
is this what you think, whatyou say, what you do either

(09:25):
gives you plus or minus creditor debit and, in other words,
either it entangles you in thelower frequencies or it sets you
free from it.
So if you think certainthoughts, it's going to entangle
you more and they, they are theselfish thoughts.
Thoughts only are the selfishthoughts, thoughts only limiting

(09:52):
you, because false is based onfalse identity.
You are not the limited beingso that you look for everything
for yourself.
You see, the real self is notlimited to the body line are we
not supposed to be looking forthings?
yeah, the truth is this when youattain realization, you are not
actually leaving the port.
You are still inside the port,but you have gotten

(10:13):
understanding.
You are not limited to the port.
So because of that, the worldlyactivities continue.
But the understanding is thatyou have gotten makes everything
different.
There will be inflow to enterwhatever is needed for the
function of the port moving theport, energy to do this and that

(10:35):
wisdom, intuition to do this,and that they all enter through
the mouth of the pot, becauseyou have identified that you are
one with the whole.
So that permits guidance, thatpermits everything to come.
But once you limit yourself,it's like you cut the whole out

(10:57):
of you.
You are just this and then youare struggling to get things.
You see, doc, if I take youback, you are a 16-year-old.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Forget it.
16 is a bit too young, but youare a 20-year.
Yeah, get it, 16 is a bit tooyoung, but you are a 20 year old
young man.
Yeah, starting life.
Yeah, what would you have donedifferently?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
yes, yeah, actually beginners on this journey.
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