EP 60- When Bedtime Stories Turn Sinister

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, you think darkness is your ally.
You merely adopted the dark.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I was born in it.
Molded by it, I see death.

(00:34):
Welcome Cosmic Gold family toanother episode.
It's your co-host Yayo, and myco-host Reverence.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's your boy Reverence.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I know what to say.
Who got a Call of God?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
El liston de tu pelo.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
You gotta.
I've been listening to that.
Oh, I was about to say Ithought that was your song.
No, no, no, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I was about to say who teasing me, who want to send
a song?
Okay, okay, like.
Oh, that is a song.
Los Angeles Azul yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, that is a yeah.
Oh, my god, bro, their music isso good.
I forgot about that, though.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Las Rolas, las Rolas bro.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Los Exitos.
That's the shit Basso used tobe listening to In that, in that
, in that Thunderbird, in that.
Oh, he used to have Firebird.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I think, yeah, he used to have one.
Was it Pontiac Tray Zan?
Yeah, he used to have one.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I think so, if I'm not mistaken because I just
remember it was like a littleblack car he used to have but it
was a two-seater, but we usedto go everywhere in that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think it's a panier I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, no, no, you know what.
I'm mistaken, though, becauseit was a chevy, but it was that
type of like, look like themodel.
I don't know what car it was,but, um, he used to have like a
little car like that bro, I'vebeen having that music we have a
number bangers are on day onthe only thing uh, oh, go ahead,
play that a little bit, so thefans know, bro, they go

(01:53):
copyright us, like chris browndid.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
We put that video on youtube.
That shit say he did he didcopyright.
Chris brizzy say y'all gottatake that music down.
No, it was just like the like,because, like you know, they use
like that.
I wouldn't say a.
I guess like a, uh, the whatyour youtube guidelines?
Oh yeah, there you go youtubeguidelines and then like, since
we uploaded it and it had likemaybe five seconds of the song

(02:18):
uh-huh, he wanted that flag thisdamn well, like the only thing
that was like it just muted thewhole video, so all I have to do
is go back, delete that part.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
And then reupload, touch it, okay, but we didn't
get a strike or anything.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, Not bad.
Not bad.
That shit said hey, you knowyou're breaking the guidelines
right?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
He said, you know I'm going to need that my fault.
My all big breezy.
But yeah, bro, how you beenthough.
It's been a long time.
We done skipped a week.
We done skipped a week.
It feels like a month too busy,too much going on.
That shit, that shit reallyjust be feeling like bro, like
the weekend always gets here soquick and it always feels like

(02:58):
for me my weekend's been assbecause I still gotta work them.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I still like I wake up every day just feels
like a monday.
It just feels like a monday.
It it just feels like a money,just feels like, yeah, I I don't
want to say like I, I ain'tfeeling no progress.
I feel like I was movingforward in time, but it's like I
was just just stuck there,especially when the big ass
hours, bro, damn right, and thenthey, uh some happened.
So we had to wait even more tofinish the house and then then

(03:24):
the car was like, while we werefinishing another house, to go
fix it.
It was a mess, bro.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Damn bro.
That shit was a mess bro, soyou got to work tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, I got to work tomorrow still.
Yeah, I'm taking Sunday off.
I'm taking Sunday off, Damn bro, yeah, I'm taking Sunday off.
I told him I was like I'm gonnatake something off there.
He's like, yeah, that's fine,it's with uh sasser.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh, so you know they hang up again a bunch of work
with uh them, two companies withthem too.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, yeah, but um, I mean shout out, shout out,
sasser.
Honestly I'm gonna let it sell.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
But yeah, yeah, they just.
At least they treat you right,yeah yeah, they treat me hella
good, bro.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
they, they make sure, they make sure I get paid, make
sure you know I do good work.
It's nice when they appreciatethe work I'm doing.
Other companies, somemotherfucker, I ain't going to
say the name.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Hey, if you listen to this, I hope y'all go bankrupt.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
They had me like bragging on Spider-Man 3.
They had me praying, praying tokill these motherfuckers.
God, please, god, please, man,strike their building down,
please, god, just break a meterdown on them.
Just one, just one God.
It had me at that point, but ithad me at that point, but then
I had to.
You know, you got to stand backand be like this, ain't me?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I'm losing myself.
I'm losing myself here.
You know, I got to recollectRight, right, like the Grinch.
Almost lost my cool, having awhole mental breakdown.
Whoa guys, whoa, whoa guys,relax, relax.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Relax, guys.
Everybody.
Look at me, you good Woo Woo.
Damn bro, Shit, be like thatbro.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Y'all busy as hell.
Damn bro, busy bro.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Damn, it should be like that, bro.
Y'all busy as hell.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Damn bro, it's a good thing, it's a good thing, you
know, but it's only a good thingif they pay you.
You scum.
I'm trying to think ofcorporate terms.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Corporate slander.
You sexualizer, you fuckingyeah.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
What he said yeah that's right chat gbt give me
some corporate slander to callout corporations without getting
a lawyer.
Call you paperclip stealer, youhandsome.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Pushing uh, fuck.
All I know is blue collarslander.
All I know is some of this youPants and pushing Uh, fuck, fuck
.
All I knew.
All I know is blue collar, uhslander.
All I know is some of this, anduh, and, uh and uh, mr George.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
That's all we know, mr George.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
How much you pay the new guy.
Look at him.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Look at him Acting Whole fiend, whole fiend, bro,
he itching for it.
He said they got glass on theroad again, right.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Bro, my boy Started chasing Soon as we go out, cause
we got cats out here.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh, for real, he was starting chasing.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
He was starting chasing the cats I think it was
the neighbor's cats, though butthey be chilling over here, and
so they're learning, slowly butsurely, but they're learning to
stop doing that.
But okay wait a bit.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Debbie Chesney, cat damn bro, how long has it been
since we had the last episode?
Two weeks, was it two weeks?
Two weeks.
There's the last week.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Last week I had a little party.
Okay, who's that I uploaded?
Oh great, that's your happyrolling.
But I said, yeah, my, I leaked,the message Leaked.
Who said I uploaded itungratially?
That shit had me rolling, bro.
I said, yeah, my boy gone.
The moment he started textingme I'm like, yeah, he gone, that

(06:55):
was AI.
It wasn't me who said AI.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
My phone got hacked.
Some kid in India took my tookmy took my phone number, but G
took your shit.
Some kid in India took my phonenumber, but G took your shit.
The boy about G, he reallyhacked my shit.
But damn bro, so y'all beenworking so much, y'all ain't
have nothing crazy happen then.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh yeah, we had one of the house it burned down.
I was praying, I was praying, Iwas praying, but I wasn't even
trying to phase that.
No, I was playing.
No, but I wasn't even trying toface it, I was praying Now that
we have the house, okay.
So for the listeners, this isnot to confuse you, but this is
a little el punto.
You know what I'm talking about.
How would you translate that inEnglish, el punto?

(07:36):
Oh, that's a word I keepforgetting what the word is.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's kind of like a.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Like a nail pusher.
Does that make sense, I guess?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
so I guess, like if you have like a nail that's
sticking up a little, bit.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
you need to push it in, you just.
I guess like a nail puncher orsomething, nail puncher,
something like that, somethinglike that, for layman's terms
it's you use a hammer too.
Production, production, calmdown, production.
We got our production team.
We got our production team outhere.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh we got our intern oh shit.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
We got an intern, we got our editor.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
We just got our new editor and she didn't even know
she signed up for the role.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
With this call, with you's constant call on
ZipRecruiter, you get it wehired her to Zip Recruiter.
Fuck, we lost our promotion.
But okay, so mine, the one Ihave shout out D-Walk.

(08:41):
It's a D-Walk one.
So it's yellow, you know.
It's bright yellow, you know,and it's hard to miss it.
It's hard to miss it, you know.
So my boy, jeru, he was usingit.
We went to lunch.
He was using it before lunch.
Went to lunch, Came back, hehad to keep using it.
Gone, gone right.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
What happened to them ?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
okay so here, okay.
So after lunch, right afterlunch, so the whole day, this
man spent the whole day.
I even helped him looking forit.
I couldn't find my other one.
I usually have two, but Icouldn't find my other.
One point is we lost, it wasgone, gone.
So we're like fuck, you know,I'm gonna go buy another one
after work and we'll use it.
We'll use it.
Just, you know, just pushingall the nails tomorrow after

(09:23):
work, all All right, fine.
So it was getting close topacking up time and everything.
So, you know, just chilling youknow how I do, I don't like to
push my guys too hard so I gotoff the big machine.
I saw the chatter, him up andeverything, you know.
So I go.
There was this packet ofsandpaper right, excuse me, I

(09:46):
kicked it.
Just I didn't even kick it.
I was like I want to pick it upto move it.
Hole puncher right there, mindyou.
Who said Keeps kicking it Mindyou Stick with the story, mind
you.
Stay with me now.
Jerooney had kicked thatsandpaper.
He he had moved it.

(10:06):
We both had moved.
I don't, I can't.
The only thing is I don'trecall if I 100 moved it myself,
but I am almost certain I movedit.
So he moved it because it wasat another spot.
We moved everything, lookingfor the whole punch, that that
punch or whatever.
Bro, it was right there, it wasright there on the eat that
sandpaper.
I put it back where I saw it,right.

(10:27):
I walked back into, like thehallway.
You can see it from the hallwaynow when we walked through you
couldn't see it.
Oh shit so it just spawned init's hot shit.
You feel me so?
I just talked into the room.
It's an old-ass house, Old oldhouse.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
You know what it was right, go ahead say it.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I don't know, I don't know, los Duendes, bro?
No, I think.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
It was them short people, them dwarves, that Bitch
, because you're always caughtlooking at this, but they always
sneak past it.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
But no.
So I just talked to him in theroom.
I was like, hey, no more pranks, because it just felt like a
childish.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh, you thought it was like a spirit.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, that's what I, I don't know.
That's like the first thingthat popped into my mind.
Like I was like, oh, okay,that's what came to your head,
because even Jer was like nah,bro.
I was like nah, well, my bad.
Jer was like nah, bro, I movedthat thing.
He was like I moved it.
He was like there's no way itwas there.
I was like I ain't gonna lie toyou, I peaked it already.
There's no way it could havebeen there.

(11:31):
There's no way it waited untilwe were about to leave to put it
back underneath that thing.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I was just going to say yeah, I just talked into the
room I was like, yeah, no morepranks, please no more pranks.
And that was it basically?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
And it stopped.
It stopped.
Yeah, nothing else happened.
Bro, y'all better than me, Iwould have pulled out my phone.
I would have used Cosmic Codefor our discount.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Ouija, smart Ouija, no.
Smart Ouija bars on your phone.
No, no, no.
Whoever's here tell me whatyou're doing?
My phone cuts off.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Fuck.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
This asshole killed my phone I just turned around
and gave him the morty face.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I think it's a DVD.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
There's something here, but yeah, bro, that's it
DVD there's something here, butyeah, that's it that's it
happening, bro, but yeah,nothing after that, really
happened.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Damn bro, that's crazy.
But I mean, that's kind of likeit's crazy how, like old houses
usually do tend to have like acertain vibe to them.
It's eerie.
Huh, they got eerie vibes right.
Some of them, yeah, some ofthem.
Old houses usually do tend tohave like a certain vibe to them
.
Well, you huh, right, yeah,some of them.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I think.
I think we've have you worked.
Have you worked in the housewith us?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
that was a couple times, but there was like this
one time in spectrum I worked atthis one lady's house and it
was like a really cool aestheticpleasing house, like in the
terms of like a countrysidecottage okay, okay, but it was
an old house.
Yeah, it was like an old house,but it was like in in
greensboro somewhere, and it wasreally cool because it had like

(13:15):
vines or like ivy growingaround the brick and everything.
So like really aesthetically itlooked cool or whatever.
And then when you get insideshe had like books stacked up
everywhere.
She was like an old lady, likeshe was like she had to have,
like a nurse okay to watch overhere oh, you're talking about a
cougar.
Oh, you're talking about thatthis lady looked like she was

(13:37):
living out the rest of her days,like she was about to go any
minute now, damn.
But yeah, it felt like weird,like like I mean, it felt like
something was like the house hadhistory okay, okay, whether it
be good or bad, you could justhave a little energy to it.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, you could tell like there was like family
memories right right, right,right right right or you could
tell somebody was smashing onthat couch yeah, he said it was
me, so I went and sniffed and itwho hit it the whole head,
uh-huh 1987.

(14:12):
This was John John.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Rock.
Both of them had carpet.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
And it matches Drake's.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
It smells, I mean it tastes like carpet burn, but um,
all but, um, all, right, um, itwas.
It's crazy, though, because,like I said, you could like,
feel like.
Like I said, whether it's goodor bad, you can always feel like
a history inside of a home orlike, if you go to like, a
historical building yeah, yeah,it has like a different little
heavier little.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
You feel something there.
Yeah, maybe like a frequencylittle heavier little.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
You feel something there.
Yeah, maybe like a frequency orwhatever, like you could just
tell, like you could feel it.
Yeah, damn.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
That was it basically for me.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Me personally, I mean .

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, you can kind of feel in those houses.
I don't remember if we oh why Igot you here.
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
That's right, I did it.
I did it.
That's right, I did it.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
So I was telling Sammy a story Jerry is telling
me Sammy was with us.
I'm saying you was with us, butit was this house when Boston
was still working.
It was a new house, it was ahouse by the lake.
It was like a modern house,like that is a modern house.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I was with you, you were with us.
Right, I did like a full sit onthe Camaro up that hill.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Not that one.
It was like a white box house,if that makes sense.
It was like squared off.
It didn't have a roof Like apointy roof, it had like a
squared LA mansion type vibehouse.
The thing is that we sawsomething peeking around this
tree and so we went to check forit.

(15:52):
That wasn't you, okay.
So JL was saying what'shappening?
I thought it was you that didit, but Sammy, don't remember
seeing that.
What we saw.
I don't remember it was a newconstruction.
I don't know whose house it was.
Uh, it was a new construction,I don't know who's.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I don't know who, whose house it was a new
construction which ladies, theone where I couldn't find where
y'all were at, because oh, yeah,that was a new.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, that was a new construction too, but no, it was
, it was in that house.
No, nothing, nothing happenedat that house.
But the the thing is um, yeah,we just saw like it was just
like a skinny tree it was like alittle skinny tree, right and
we saw something, like we werelooking towards it and then
something peeked around and sowe went to look at it, see if we
could find it.

(16:32):
There was nothing behind thattree.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I don't think I was there for that.
I don't recall.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
You don't recall.
Yeah, sammy said he couldn't,so maybe he just you know, he
just Damn he just you know, hejust.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Damn, that's that third person syndrome.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
You know what I'm saying?
Right, people be saying theyhave like that thing where
they're like yeah, yeah, yeah,someone else was with us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody elsewas there, but it's like.
Right, I don't know.
Nah well, sammy, say no, you'resaying no I don't recall
Jared's saying Sammy, yeah, I'mguessing.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Is that third person syndrome?
Is that third?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
person syndrome.
Bro, that's what it got to be.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
But dang bro.
Well, it's a good thing thatyou're working again.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
It's a good thing that you're having a bunch of
work, because you know that PCain't going to get itself Tight
shit, tight shit, low key Tightshit, don't know okay.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
No, I'm just messing bro, but I uh, I guess we'll go
ahead and get into the storiesand stuff that we're going to
talk about.
Is your phone good right now?
Yeah, it's good, yeah, yeah solet the people know what the
first topic is going to be about.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
We got something good and exciting and we're going to
pick up from the previoussubject that we talked about
okay, okay, yeah, so, oh, youwant to do that one first, or
you want to do that one at theend we'll we end off spooky.
We'll end off spooky Okay.
I like ending it off spooky.
So the first one is the DarkHistory of Nursery Rhymes.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
So I forgot it was nursery rhymes.
I just did the books.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh, that's fine.
You did nursery rhymes.
Yeah, there's nursery rhymes,that's perfect.
Yeah, that works.
Yeah, there you go.
That's perfect, because I wentthrough the old, like the old
message and I was like fuck, Iforgot.
Yeah we're talking about.
I mean, that works perfectbecause we cover we dead ass
gonna cover both things anyways,okay, so we're gonna be talking
about the dark origin ofchildren's stories.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Some, some that, uh, were a little bit unsuspecting
on my end.
I honestly didn't know like allof these were like dark I heard
about cinderella, snow whitesleeping beauty, but I never
heard about oh, I don't evenknow about none of those.
No, yeah, they have like alittle bit of a dark history too
.
Oh shit, okay, yeah, I knowabout that I know that yeah I

(18:38):
know that either, yeah but inturn right, get you a microphone
I.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I told you wanted to be in there.
You could have.
You could have got a microphone.
It's too late now.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Too late now we'll get the intern on the next one
we'll show you the intern, ourmedia manager, right, but um so,
one of the stories that I sawthat had like a dark origin or
like history behind her.
Whatever was the hansel andgretel which I actually like
that story, that one, okay, okay, that one, yeah it was so good,

(19:12):
like I loved that story so muchgrowing up as a kid.
But before I get into theorigin, what?
How do you remember the story?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
because there's like different, okay what I remember
was hansel and gretel going tothe woods and a witch.
They meet a witch in the hutmade out of candy and then they
find out that the witch takesand something like that.
I know I'm butchering a littlebit, but they ended up working
for the witch for a little bitbecause she had them captive,

(19:38):
but she really was just fanninghim up so they could eat him,
and then they end up findingthat out somehow.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
And then they end up locking the witch in the oven
and they killed the witch, ifI'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
So you remember them killing the witch.
I remember like killing thewitch, because that's how they
escape.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
I read like the kids version of it okay yeah, they
just like locked there behind adoor or some crap and then they
escaped it was like the kidslike of PG version of the movie
Okay, okay.
Then I heard about the onewhere they put her in the oven
and burned her.
Oh, okay, okay.
I was like damn, that shit isgreat.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, that's the one I remember, the one where they
that's how they escaped.
They managed to.
They killed her bro Cooked her.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
So I'm going to give you the modern version of it
that most people might remember.
That most people might rememberit was two siblings are
abandoned in the forest discovera witch's candy house.
Like you said, they're capturedand ultimately out with the
witch burning her alive beforereturning home to a happy ending
.
But the earliest known versioncomes from germanic, or germanic

(20:39):
.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Uh, how the fuck you say it as folklore, as the
german I was about to say, asthe germans do and uh was
popularized by the brothers grimin 1812 now the brothers grim
is like its own thing in itself.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Okay that they write good stories.
They're like I don't know aboutthem personally, so I don't
know if there's like anycontroversy behind right, right,
right, dr seuss, type, shit,type, shit, right.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But I do like reading , like the brothers, grim
stories and everything.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
No, I ain't know about them either so the true
origins are tied to like realhistorical horrors.
So like, for example, famineand a famine sorry and child
abandonment was like common.
So like in the 1300s to like1600s, europe experienced like
multiple famines and plaguesokay so, like during the great
famine from like 1315 to 1317, Iknow this shit, I remember off

(21:28):
the top of my head type shit.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm just looking, I got my camera like look at
myself to motivate myself.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
You got this now, I'm just playing, so uh, starving
families would sometimes likeabandon their children okay, so
that they would have enough foodon the table to like oh, okay,
okay, okay, that's crazy,already dark.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Gone, your parents, gone, your parents like get out,
what, what, what.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
You mean, I can go get wood, get him.
He doesn't even do nothing.
What the fuck?
What did I do?
I was just chilling.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
My family would have not survived bro we would have
killed each other, bro, we wouldhave not survived, bro Me get
him.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
He hasn't done anything.
We were telling each other, somuch I know about the floors Me.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I did the back minimum.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
today I cleaned the bathroom because you always pee
on the seat.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I would have not survived man.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
So Honto andretta reflects this like the
stepmother.
Sometimes the mother and olderversions of the story insists
that the children must be leftin the forest because there
isn't enough food.
Okay, I don't recall some ofthe story like versions that I
read.
I don't recall it being theparents leaving them, I just
remember them like playing andsinging right because they were

(22:50):
chasing after their toy.
It was something like that,right that's what it was and
then they ended up get like,like you said, they got lost and
everything.
That's what I remember.
I never heard like the momwould took them in the woods and
just left them.
So another thing wascannibalism was a document like
documented response to famineand the witch who each children

(23:13):
represents, this grim like, likeshe represents.
Like you know, there's not food, so I'm just gonna eat the kids
or whatever.
So the story's central horrorwas children being eaten.
Uh, villages feared strangersand folk tales often personified
this fear in the form of awitch, ogre personified yeah,

(23:35):
both of them can't talk.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I'll tell you about that.
That was me last time.
Is it rad or read?
Talk to me.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
That was me last time , I can't even blame you.
So, pretty much like, the moralof the story was pretty much
like uh, it was just trying toteach children to like obey,
like the parents, like don't gowandering into woods, like
beware strangers that give youfood.
Um, that's pretty much it.
So the only reason why theymade it like they changed it up

(24:04):
was because, obviously, likeit's too too grim too, too, too
yeah too, because imagine beinglike kindergarten your teacher's
like.
So then they ate the candy andthen they saw that the witch was
turning the kids into piesstraight, yes, straight, pre-k
first thing in pre-k bro mealfor she sounds like my neighbor,
that nobody believes me.
Yo One kid like you just If youscan the room, cause you know

(24:30):
Whenever y'all get like on,y'all get put like To sit down
on the Carpet or whatever Whilethe teacher's reading the story.
You see that one kid thatdoesn't even blink.
He just got that.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Customized stare, everybody watch him.
He's on the watch.
He's the witch in this story.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
He's just like slowly smirking.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Oh, no, motherfucking smirking in pre-K.
No, get him the fuck out ofhere, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I didn't know it had to do with cannibalism.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I didn't really think about that I think it had
cannibalism in it, necessarily.
Well, besides the witch, yeah,besides the witch.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, like necessarily well besides
the witch?
Yeah, besides the witch, butyeah but I didn't know, it was
like the whole origin yeah, thewhole mom dropping them off.
Yeah, no, I thought they justgot lost and went into the, into
the woods by themselves, youknow so if this is your first
time hearing about the truestory of Hansel and Gretel, the
true background, the true storywhere they burnt the witch and
just killed her, burnt the wholehouse down, then ran off Tight,

(25:25):
shit.
They said she ain't got Wi-Fi,let's get out of here.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Honestly, don't even blame them.
Don't even blame them.
I bet that oven wasn't evenpreheated.
It's at 350 degrees Fahrenheitbro.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I bet, but what?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
you got bro.
All right bro.
So check this out.
So I'm going to start off witha little.
Let's start a little racy.
You know, let's start a littleRacy A little oh.
So I got so some of thesenursery rhymes I actually didn't
know about, so I never heardthem, so I wrote them down too.
So I got Bye, bye black sheep.
This started.

(25:58):
This was wrote down.
Well, they wrote this in 1731,just a little while back, you
know.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Just so y'all have in y'all's head what timeline it
was before I start so I'm goingto say every word as it's
written.
Yeah, like Disney said, we'reonly doing it because it shows
the history of things.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
So I'm about to put the Burger King hat on history
of things.
So I'm about to put the BurgerKing hat on Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha All
right Bar for bar Bar, for barBar.
Ha, ha, ha ha, all right.
So, bob, bob, black Sheep, haveyou any wool?
Yes sir, yes sir, three bagsfull, one for the master, one

(26:48):
for the dame, one for the littleboy who lives down the lane.
I'm sending that shit.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I'm sending that shit tonight that's called Bop,
right there.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Right, trippy Red, you need a feature Right.
So I think I'll be writingsongs like Nursery Run, hold the
fuck up.
So I was like nursery run, holdthe fuck up.
Okay, so the most scholarsagree that bad, bad black sheep.
It's about the great cuz.
So that's what it was originalabout.
It was a great custom text onwool that was introduced in in

(27:15):
1275 is used to color black, andthe word master led some to
wonder whether there was aracial message in its center.
Again we come back to thepolitical correctness of things,
and it was counter-questionedyet again in the latter part of
the 20th century.
So as people try to get morepolitically correct, they tend

(27:42):
to look at stuff in the past,and it went as far as some
schools banning it from beingrepeated, repeating classrooms,
but others just simply switchingthe words black for something
deemed less offensive.
So they just rewrote.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
they just rewrote the uh so they just said it in
Spanish.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Y'all know, if we listen to that shit in Spanish,
that shit gonna be twice asgreat.
Cancel it, cancel it.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Express cancel in spanish.
That's gonna be twice.
That's right, cancel it expresscancel.
Why do they spell it like this,hey?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
with the hard art, hey look we don't write it,
that's.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
That's just the way they said it in spanish.
Don't, don't blame me.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Blame the man that translated it to this but um,
yeah, that was basically thedirection was one of the pretty
uh straightforward short short,was I?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
thought it was like the king, because they
essentially I thought it waslike they paid their taxes for
the king and like the kid endedup having like nothing left for
him.
That's why he ran running backhome, type shit which was like
the like like why they?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
why?
I said like that um, I'm not,I'm not sure about well, did
they say it was well, the textwas from the king yeah so yeah,
yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah,you're right.
You're right on why they saythat.
But um, uh, the, the darknessor the uh for like a better.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, the true origin .
Yeah, yeah, the true lord yeah,but it was just.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
It really wasn't a concrete reason why or like
that's what it meant, but it waslike just people speculating,
and I mean at the time it cameout and everything you know, it
was a different time, you know.
Here at Cosmic Cove we give youthe true, uncut, raw, word for
word bar for bar Uncut, you saywe give you the uncircumcised

(29:23):
news straight to you, straight,uncircumcised news Straight to
you, straight, uncircumcisednews straight to your ears.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
This is why we got 60.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
We better than CNN.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
This is why we got 60 plus streams last week.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Last week we had 60 people tune in last week Tight
tight Last week.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
We had 60 people tune in last week or two weeks ago,
something like that.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
They wanted a new.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
They wanted a Turkish side truth.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
They wanted original design truth.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
All right, so this is the Little Mermaid.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So the modern version that was made by Disney was a
mermaid trades her voice forlegs to live on a land and marry
a prince.
You know, after some drama,love prevails and she becomes
human blah blah, blah, tight,tight, tight shit, tight shit.
And the credits roll and youknow a whole new world.
Oh no, that's Aladdin.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it is.
Oh yeah, I have impressions ofhim.
Go ahead, put it on, we'llwatch it.
We'll get back to y'all realquick, right quick.
Two hours.
Give us two hours.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Is it?
I thought that was Aladdin, thewhole new world.
No, that's Aladdin.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
That's Aladdin, that's Aladdin.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, sure, all right .
So in the original story madeby hans christian anderson in
1837, the mermaid feels likeshe's walking on knives with
every step.
When she had her legs, oh, okay, like because she had her but
the trick, like the how'd yousay, the conundrum or the
problem that she faced was, ifshe fails to marry a prince, she
will turn into sea foam and die.
That was like the true cursethat was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
The whole outcome that was going to happen.
So the prince ended up marryingsomeone else and the mermaid
sisters give her a knife tomurder the prince and save
herself.
Oh shit, a little mermaidkiller yes but she refused and
she ended up turning into likesea foam and dies Damn.

(31:33):
That's how that storyoriginally ended.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Personally me, I would have caught a body that
night.
Personally me, that's just me,honestly.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
What do you mean?
You're not mine.
What them ladies say, what thatlady straight from the podcast,
the crazy girls that be likeobsessed si no es conmigo, no es
con nadie, or some shit likethat oh yeah yeah, yeah.
So um, the story about prettymuch like showed like uh, the

(32:04):
story was about like unrequitedlove sacrifice and the
consequence of desire.
Because you know she wanted tolike walk on land, be like a
human rather than a mermaid typeshit and according to like the
notes, it says like it reflectedAnderson's own life struggles
and the harsh realities of loveand social mobility.
Oh, he was, oh was oh yeah,mobility issues and shit.

(32:30):
Um no, it's like socialmobility, oh, social yeah, yeah,
yeah, introvert, introvert yeah, like something okay okay I
feel that, I feel that sovictorian moral tales often
emphasize selflessness, purityand sacrifice, even through
death that's why they read it tokids and everything like.
Why would they read somethinglike this to kids back in the
day time?
And that was why because theyemphasize selflessness yeah yeah

(32:53):
, I can see that me as akindergartner she turning the
fucking c phone.
You know what that is.
That's not an espresso fromStarbucks, that's actually.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Wait a minute.
What's the logo for Starbucks?

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Oh shit, hit the hit, the hit the.
There we go, there we go.
Starbucks.
Muriel turned into, I meanAriel.
I said Muriel, ariel turnedinto into seafoam.
What is seafoam?
I mean what's the logo onStarbucks?
A mermaid.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Here at Cosmic Cove we breaking it down.
You seen that.
You seen that real time andthis is the raw, uncut truth On
Shark of Sock Whole event rightthere, bro.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
That's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy, that's
crazy, that's crazy, that'scrazy Snowball even got hype.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
He's like what Okay, I got you with this one, bro,
this one they don't know about.
Goosey Goosey Gander.
I think that's how you say it,right, goosey Goosey Gander, I
think.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
For a second.
I thought it was like the DuckDuck Goose thing.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Oh okay, it said Goosey Goosey Gander.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I never heard of it.
I remember sitting down in acircle.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Goosey, goosey Gander .
I remember the rules.
He's the Gander, he's theGander.
That's the word.
I don't know what the fuck thatmeans.
That shit sound like a slur.
What were we saying earlier?
Corporate.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Jargon, no, not jargon.
Slander, slander.
There you go, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
All right.
So here's how it goes.
By the way, I'm just givinglike a little snippet of it
because they're kind of long.
So so, goosey, goosey, gander,whither, shall, I Wonder,
upstairs and Downstairs, and Inmy Daddy's Chamber, in my Lady's
Chamber my fault, my fault, myfault, hold up.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I'm in my daddy's chamber.
My daddy's chamber.
What's that shit called thembooks that them girls Be reading
?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Romance, novels, erotica, bro.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
There you go, that shit turned into a whole.
All the listeners Fuck.
Why am I hard at work right now?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
God damn it, hold on.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
I'm in my daddy's chamber.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I felt that he Leg spread.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Handcuffs Fuzzy handcuffs, gag ball.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Ain't no beat.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Alright, let me read it again.
Let me fuck it up again onpurpose Goosey, goosey, gander,
wander upstairs and downstairsin my ladies chamber.
There I met an old man whowouldn't say his prayers, so I
took him by his left leg andthrew him down the stairs.
Already we got a good start onthat shit on darkness level.

(36:07):
Alright, before you tell us howdo you translate that in
layman's terms?
In layman's terms, I wentupstairs, I went downstairs, I
went to my shoddy chamber, rightwhen I met, where I saw an old
head who would not pray, meaninghe's not a man of God.
Who was being a silly goose whowas being a little sinner, so I

(36:31):
took him by his leg and I threwhim down the stairs.
You can't, you can't.
It would get more literal thanthat, honestly.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
That part right there flew over my head.
What are they saying?
What does it mean?
This shit like hieroglyphics.
What are they saying?
Fuck.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
So one of the properties of the Diddy is the
Diddy.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
You heard that.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Huh, someone fighting .

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Someone screaming.
I heard someone.
You didn't hear that.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I heard.
I thought it was the dogs orsomething.
Oh, it was.
I heard't know Someone'sscreaming.
I heard someone.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
You didn't hear that.
I heard.
I thought it was the dogs orsomething, uh-uh, I heard
someone scream.
Okay, anyways, it's actually atale of religious persecution.
Check this out After severalyears.
After the first appearance inthe historical record, it was
appended with some disturbinglines.

(37:27):
The lines were the old man whowouldn't say his prayers.
So I took him by his letter andthrew him down the stairs.
Did I not get all my notes forthis one, Okay?
Well, actually I remember forthis one, this one.

(37:48):
It was just essentially, if youweren't in a prison with God,
they would execute you.
That's what that one wastalking about.
So they would execute anybodythat wasn't with their beliefs
or anybody that wasn't alive.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
They said he wasn't praying.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Imagine you just fell asleep.
God forbid you retire from workthat day.
God forbid that.
Hey, everybody's praying.
He wasn't praying, uh-huh.
Imagine you just fell asleep.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
God forbid you were tired from work that day.
God forbid that, heyeverybody's praying.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
He's not praying.
Take him down the steps, throwhim down the steps, chill, chill
.
I just fell asleep, I justopened my eyes, amen, but
brother, why are you throwing medown the stairs?
But brother, for I was praying,amen.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Amen, it's crazy, they throw you down the stairs.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Damn bro, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
But yeah, just to make an energy run out of people
dying, I mean, I guess that'scommon.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah, that's common.
That's common.
Back in the day type shit, allright, so this one is going to
be beauty, okay, okay I'm gonnado one more after this one.
So the modern version is a kindand mistreated girl goes to the
ball.
Uh, wait, what did I say,cinderella?
No, I said no, it's sleepybeauty I got this shit all

(39:02):
fucking mixed up.
Damn, I thought I got it mixedup.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I need to watch my Disneymovies.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Bro, be like that bro .

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Which one was Sleeping Beauty.
Sleeping Beauty, tie, tie,silly goose Tie really Silly
goose.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's in the fine print.
Really, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Okay, it's in the fine print, really.
She gets pricked by a that'swhat it was, okay, a sewing
machine.
And she goes to sleep.
That's what it was.
Appreciate it in turn.
So a princess pricks her fingeron the spindle, falls into a
magical sleep and is awakened bytrue love's kiss.
That's Disney's version right,okay, yeah, that's disney's

(39:49):
version, right, yeah, so in theoldest version, such as sun,
moon and talia, I think I say itfrom guillain batista basiles
pentamerone could have saidbetter myself, really shit, or
it's like pretty much dark.
It's like the old version okay,that was like the original title
bar for bar, so it wasn't akiss that happened oh, so what

(40:11):
was it in?
The basal version, the princesstalia is put to sleep by a
splinter of flax, so it's prettymuch the same thing yeah but
while conscious, a king findsher, is captivated by her beauty
and they say yeah, he chill thefuck out.
He assaults her while she'sasleep or however you want to

(40:32):
say what the fuck.
so she ends up giving birth totwins while she's still asleep,
right, and one of the infantssucks out the splinter, and
that's what wakes her up.
That's like the true story orthe original story.
Sorry, you know Disney was likeyou know what?
We gonna get some Disney.
What the fuck I can already seeMickey Mouse.

(40:53):
What the fuck, Everybody's inthe writing room, right Mickey,
just standing at the skyline ofwherever we're at, of the big
corporate office.
He's looking at everybody.
You guys need to snap it up.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
At Disneyland.
He really at Disneyland On topof Rush Mountain, no what?

Speaker 1 (41:10):
What do you have?
So we're going to take darkstories and we're just going to
make them into good books, goodmovies.
They need to pitch the wholeidea.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Chill, low key with the pitch, low key with that
pitch.
You want the whole idea.
Chill, low key with the pitch,low key with that pitch.
It would have got me low keywith that pitch.
Now, that's crazy though thatis I, I couldn't even imagine
that so the truth.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I guess the ending to the story was like well, the
happy ending to the story was uh, the king ended up having to
kill his jealous wife so that hecould be with sleeping beauty
oh, it gets even wild.
Oh fuck okay so early europeantales often treat a woman as
passive objects and moralwarnings.

(41:55):
So the story reaffirs uhpatriarchal ideas.
A woman's fate was out of hercontrol and beauty invited
danger I ain't gonna make a joke, so when adapted by the
brothers graham, the sexualelements were toned down,
turning the tale into more of alesson on obedience and fate

(42:16):
rather than sexuality.
The original's darkness wasn'tfor moral shock.
It was normal in a time whenviolence, plague and abuse were
every normal is wild yeah, thatis crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Normal is wow, that's what I said I ain't gonna make
no jokes, but uh no, what the?

Speaker 1 (42:35):
fuck, that shit is crazy.
Yeah, that's the darkest one.
So what the fuck?
And y'all letting your kidswatch this?
Look at you, you sicko.
You're an awful parent youdon't deserve.
You're a piece of shit Killyourself.
How could you, Disney?
How could you mislead us?
I'm canceling my subscriptiontoday.

(42:57):
But they got Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Fuck.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
You know what, maybe, maybe I'll just turn a blind
eye.
I'll just not look in thatsection.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
So technically I'm still boycotting if I'm not
looking at it technically, ifyou don't watch the whole, if
you don't watch the wholecatalog, you boycotted me as
soon as I'm about to subscribe.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, unsubscribe, disney asked me.
Oh, they always ask you thatquestion.
Why are you so unsubscribing tous?
Because y'all using awfulstories and teaching it to our
little kids.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
They go ahead and do that, nuh-uh.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
They'll be like oh, but we'll give you two months
for free.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Oh, they would have got me on there two months.
I'd be like cancel thesubscription.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I mean Keep the description.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
No, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
What you got bro.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
That shit is pretty crazy, bro.
All right, so I got Mary MayQuite Contrary.
Mary Mary Quite Contrary.
How does your garden grow Withsilver bells and cockle shells
and pretty maids all in a row?
So contrary is one way todescribe a murderer's psychopath

(44:08):
.
This popular english nurseryrhyme, which reads like a
solicitation for gardeningadvice, is actually, according
to many, a recounting of thehomicidal nature of queen mary
uh, first of england, aka bloodymary, a fierce believer in
catholic catholic.
Her reign as queen from 1553 to1558 was marked by the

(44:30):
execution of hundreds ofProtestants.
The silver bells and cockleshells, in this understanding,
are actually torture devices,not garnering accoutrements.
Basically, it wasn't gardeningequipment.
They were just uh, just justhonestly, just re, re, uh

(44:51):
rewording um, what she, uh, whatshe was doing.
And it had another nursery rhymethat I read with with the three
blind mice.
Uh, the three blind mice, uh,see how they run, see how they
run.
Uh, they all ran after thefarmer's wife who cut off their
tails with a carving knife.
Did you ever see such a thingin your life as three blind mice
?
So the three blind mice is alsosupposed to be yet another ode

(45:14):
to the Bloody Mary's ring, withthe three-year-old question,
believed to be a group ofprotestant bishops.
So there were Hug Letmer,nicholas Radley and the
Archbishop of Canterbury, thomasCranmer, who unsuccessfully
conspired to overthrow the queenand were burned at the stake
for their heresy.

(45:35):
Critics suggest that thisblindness in the title refers to
religious beliefs.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
that was like the true origin that was the true
origin of why they wrote it.
So it was just basicallytelling the story a different
way.
They were just trying to letyou know what she did without,
in a sense, without her knowingthat you were telling people
what she was doing.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Damn so you wouldn't get executed yourself.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
It's smart but damn, it's smart but wild bro.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
You just hear a little kid in the playground.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Singing that shit it's just about dead people, bro
.
That shit be crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Right.
You just hear them and you'relike ah, what it was to be.
A little child, Innocent.
Innocent is crazy, but you'realready saying some crazy stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
She got a knife and cut his head, bro.
It's wild and plain sight, bro,plain sight.
They just it plays psych, broPlays psych, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I got that one too.
Yeah, go ahead, do that.
Do that one next.
So I got one more.
You got Little Red Riding Hoodor we got Cinderella.
Which one do you want?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Let's do Red Riding Hood, all right.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
So the modern version was a young girl visits her
grandmother, is tricked by awolf and in most current
versions, a heroic woodsmansaves her right.
Earliest version, whatever youwant to say.
Um, it was called la petite, lapetite, chaperon rogue and 17th

(47:07):
century france.
Oh, my father said, oh yeah, myfather, y'all said it wrong.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Now what's the other one?
That, though, that one, uh, thethe jet de louvain.
What's the one we say?
What's that the beast?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
oh la bette, yeah, yeah um, so they said there's
even older versions.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
But it's like oh, much darker than this one, but
this one's from uh 1697.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
This is the 1697 version by charles uh peraltz I
think that's his name.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
So little red riding hood is actually eaten alive oh
shit, okay, like that's how thestory, oh, that's how this story
, yeah, and then in this versionof little red riding hood, I
should say but there was likesymbolism behind it.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
So okay, scholars widely agree that the story is
about like sexual predatorsbecause, like a medieval,
medieval france, the wolves werelike a metaphor for like
predatory men oh shit okay, okayso the red hood itself was
often interpreted, interpretedas a symbol of purity.
I mean puberty or sexualawakening okay, that's crazy red

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stuff on and the wolf invitingher to uh take off her clothes
and get into bed, which wassaying the older version, yeah,
makes the.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
That is why, yeah, I get it.
I get it.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
That is wow yeah, the wolf kills the grandmother,
serves her flesh to little redriding hood and offers her blood
as wine.
Fuck, it's like what someversions yeah often said in the
stories holy shit so the moralof the story, if kids were told

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this story back in a day it wasmeant to like, teach them not to
talk to strangers, not towander alone in dangerous places
, and that innocence and naivetynot like.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
How do you say that?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
like you'd be naive.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Naive, yeah, could get you killed pretty much that
is why y'all couldn't say thaty'all had to do all this crazy
shit so it was just pretty muchmeant to be scary to like scare
the kids.
Oh, it was meant to be.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Oh, okay, yeah, to like scare the kids not to go
out because I'm like all right,that wolf going to get you.
Wolf, oh, you're talking aboutthe man that's around the corner
that just keeps staring at meand rubs himself.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
You're talking about that hairy man.
Nah, that is crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
He just keeps rubbing his legs saying baguette,
baguette, Le crepe.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
No, oh my God, no, no , that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
That's crazy.
Look anybody, if y'all listen,from France again.
I'm sorry, I'm just joking,it's all loving jokes.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
French can take a joke.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I'm sure they could.
No, that's crazy.
They're laughing right now.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
They're probably like ho ho ho.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
These guys are very funny.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Ho, ho ho, Lee guys, lee guys.
All right, let me, I got you onthe Ring Around the Rosie, 1881
.
Ring Around the Rosie a pocketfull of posies, ashes, ashes.
We all fall down.
So they are differentvariations to the words and
everything like that.
But, um, even though the lyricshave gone through some changes

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over the years, the most popularcontinuation is that sing song.
You want the one?
I just the one I just readright now.
So the verse refers to the 1665Great Plague of London.
The rosy is the rash thatcovered the afflicted, covered
the afflicted, the smell fromwhich they attempted to cover
with the pocket full of posies.
Poses are flowers, so from allthe death and everything, and

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they also believe that bysmelling the flowers they
believe that the plague wasairborne.
So by using the flowers youwere essentially avoiding the
plague and you also not smellall the bodies and stuff like
that.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
That's kind of like how the plague doctors like the
only reason why they had likethat beak is because they had
like they would put flowers inthere.
They would put flowers, spicesin there because, like you said,
they thought it was like.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
That's the postage right there too.
Yeah, and the plague killednearly 50% of the country's
population, which makes thefinal verse ashes, ashes.
We all fall down.
So by saying that, that waseverybody that was getting
burned that would that was dying, just just just a small little,
just a small little children'suh nursery rhyme right us, being

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in kindergarten, doing likeholding hands, walking around in
a circle, fast laughing justsome chill, really just you know
, just some calm.
You know it was just you, justman, you just you, just laughing
to a couple people that died.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
You know just a couple we just being silly, just
being silly gooses out here,just being silly gander all
right, that's pretty much gonnacover that.
There's plenty of other storiesthat have like more of a dark
origin and everything, but we'renot going to spend too much
time on that subject.
But if y'all do have anyinteresting facts or any more
stories and stuff like that,y'all can message us at Cosmic

(52:26):
Cove at K-O-S-M-I-C underscoreC-O-V-E, on Instagram and TikTok
.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
And let us know if there's anything we probably
missed in the stories or if youknow any more details or
something, or if you have anyfavorite uh, true origins or
like or just like any detailsthat we might have missed about
the stuff we talked about.
Y'all can just messages and letus know.
But let's go ahead and head tothe next topic.
But which button is it there,you?

Speaker 2 (52:55):
go there you go.
Fear is there you go, or couldit dyslexia?
Welcome to Fear, fact orFiction, that's right.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I'm about to be faded .
Alrighty, two twisted tees Deep.
No food in my system.
Who in here?
What's up?
Before we get to the subject,y'all Fuck.
He's not lying, he swallows,alright.

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So let the people know whatwe're talking about today.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
So we're talking about Thunderbirds.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
The infamous Crazy you talking about that 6.5.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
So Thunderbirds, what we're breaking down To them.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
What is the Thunderbirds?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Funny.
You ask Reverence.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I was going to do it again.
I was like they're expectingthat With this time.
I did it on the last episode.
But they was like no, no,they're expecting that one this
time.
I did it on the last episode.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
But they weren't expecting it from me, you're
right.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You're right, caught me off guard with that one.
Caught me off guard with thatone, honestly.
So the Thumbbird is acryptozoological creature
associated with large bird-likeanimals that live anywhere from
northern Canada and Alaska downto Central America.
Similar animals often appear inNative American mythology.
Some tales tell of enormouseagles, strong enough to carry

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whales back to their nest.
Since pioneers began movingwest across the North American
plains, sightings of large birdshave been reported.
Similar stories appear incivilizations around the world.
Native tribes across NorthAmericaica, especially along the
pacific coast and in the greatlakes area, have stories
depicted in norman's birds ofprey.

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Some stories told that thesebirds were so large and powerful
that when they flapped theirwings, thunder was created.
Lightning flashed out of theireyes and water fell off their
backs, creating rain.
Honestly, just a way to explainnature.
Honestly, I love that thetribes used thunderbirds to
explain some of the things thathappen naturally, such as storms

(55:09):
and other forms of weather.
The legend of the.
Stay with me now Passamaquitis,passamaquitis.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Sacagawea.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
The legend of Passamaquitis, passamaquities,
sacagawea.
The Legend of Passamaquities,for example, describes the quest
of two Native Americans insearch of the source of thunder
high in the mountains.
The story said that there was athunderbird who battled an
enormous killer whale.
When the two beasts fought,they destroyed much of the land,
knocking down trees and causingmuch destruction.
Destroyed much of the land,knocking down trees and causing

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much destruction.
Although dangerous and powerfulbeings, thunderbirds were also
seen as benevolent naturespirits and they sometimes
associated, assisted the tribesin their search for food during
periods of famine.
The ingenious rocks known asthunderstorms are the eggs of
these creatures, according tosome legends bro, that is crazy
so check that out.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Imagine being like like no diss to nobody's beliefs
or anything like that.
Imagine being like a nativeamerican kid and you just walk
up to your mom.
You know my mom, my mom, whyare we in this valley?
There was a bird in the wellfighting that motherfucking got
body slammed right here on thisspot.
That's what we call home, realshit.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Just tell you go play tell you to go play, tell you
to go play Ring Around theRosies outside.
So check this out.
I know we got the collectionback here.
What else does it remind you ofa Thunderbird?
Imagine a John Bird that foughta whale in Pokemon lore.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Pikachu.
Who said Pikachu Pikachu?
What Pokemon is this?
Pikachu Pikachu, you ThunderPikachu Pikachu.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
What Pokemon is this?
Pikachu?
Pikachu, you stunned the boat,super effective.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Now, I guess Zapdos right.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Zapdos and Dewell was .
Oh my God, I had his name,keanu, you don't want to talk
about it, right?

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I know, I just don't know how to say it Keogh, yeah,
yeah, yeah there you go, there,you go, there, you go, but
that's basically.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
that was inspiration also for, oh yeah, inspiration
for for that whole for those twopokemon.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
That was inspiration.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Oh shit, I did not know that.
A little fun fact here atcosmico damn bro, that's pretty
cool.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
I didn't know they were that massive that they
could take whales I didn't knowthat either.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Like that it was, that it was that big.
I know they were like huge, butI didn't know they were that
massive that they could takewhales.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I didn't know that either.
Like that it was that big.
I know they were like huge, butI didn't know they were like
that big Right.
Imagine being a little kid.
You're just looking up one dayyou just see a whole blue whale
being drugged by a bird.
Fuck, I got to quit smokingthis tobacco.
This peace pipe, this peacepipe.
This ain't tobacco, this isweed.
I gotta lay off.

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I gotta stop hot boxing my tpman what's that?
Hot boxing hot boxing andleather is crazy bro hot damn, I
fucking my joke my joke was hotconan.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I was gonna say hot conan because it was a tp okay,
like a cone shape, shape guys.
We use them so funny.
You say that because, well, Igot a story for that from my mom
.
I don't know if you want to putit here.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Oh, she saw.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Thunderbird or something like that, something
like that.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Go ahead, tell the people we got here.
Cosmic Cove Live.
First personal account from the, the man himself.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
The man himself.
The man himself.
So my mom said she used to livein this village when she was
little.
She was Native American.
She was Native American.
That's why she hunts, that'swhy she walks barefoot, probably
.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I was about to say, she does wear chanclas a lot.
It's essentially being barefoot.
In my opinion, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
If the toes show you barefoot.
So now she said that where theylive, it was like known that at
a certain time this giant birdwould come out from the mountain
and would swoop down.
And it was just.
It was just.
I don't think she said thatthere was any attacks on people.
But uh, when they pulled up,the people told her, like, told

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her, at least her mom.
They're like, you know, just becareful, because at a certain
time this bird comes by and it'sbig enough to take your kid if
it sees it playing on the street.
So just, and she said, yeah, soat a certain time it was around
noon they, they were like ringa bell and they will all have to
hide, like at least the kidswill have to hide, and you could

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see like a massive shadow.
You just go over the whole, uh,it will cover the whole, like
village and whatnot just go by,it will go past some trees and
they disappear and then at acertain time at night it will
come back and go back into themountains.
But, it said, lived in themountains like they.
They knew, they knew we livedthere I'd have burned the
mountains.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Who said burn the mountains?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
oh, so I'm in the wrong so I'm in the wrong.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
So I want to start a little forest fire, but I'm the
bad guy just some cali shit,really some Some calm Cali shit.
Damn bro.
That's why the California.
There was Thunderbirds inCalifornia.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
We had to set fire to the forest.
You know, you know what thatreminds me of.
It's like them interviews thatwe had with the people and they
be saying some crazy shit, shit.
It feels like they'd be puttingthat oh yeah, that's why I do
it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Yeah, yeah, it feels like it feels so good it feels
so good with it.
That's why I like cut off fromthe conversation to make it seem
like we're having like yeah, itfeels, bro, it feels so good it
sounds so good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Right, I'll be trying to clip farm while making the
video.
What?

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
are they doing?
The clip made it.
The clip was so misleading itmade it seem like they were
actually having a genuineconversation.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
But uh, yeah, but that's that's, that's what I
count.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
But she said I don't think does she ever get to see
it?
Then she just said she saw theshadow.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
She said it will block like that shit, like also
Native American shit.
It will block the sun for liketwo minutes, like for a while,
yeah, while I was going through.
And then it was put the shadowwould cover the whole village.
But that was just Because theywere still little.
They would just hide them, theywould just put them inside the
house for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Imagine it's just like the misfit kid of the
village that nobody wanted toplay with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
He just had a really big ass kite nobody wanted to
play with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
He just had like a really big ass kite.
He's like I'm gonna get thisstupid kite to fly right, fly
right.
This time just covers the wholevillage everybody's ah why does
everybody scream when I'mflying my kite man?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I'll try again tomorrow.
I have to wake up every morning.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Right, get it back up type of shit I'd really be on
so the meaning of the namethunderbird comes from the
creatures associated withthunderstorms, like you said, as
it was believed to causethunderstorms.
Because you said, uh, flappingits enormous wings caused

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thunder.
Lightning shot from its eyes orbeak, according to the details
I mean to the notes and, likeyou said, rain and storms
followed its presence.
Some people often refer to itas the thunderer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
And some tribes would call it the sacred winged one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
I like that.
I like that.
It's like the sacred wing.
Oh, I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
She's not mystical so some, some tribes saw it like
as a protector, while some sawit like as a punisher punishment
okay so many tribes would thinkthat it was like a guardian for
humans against like evilspirits, water monsters okay and
serpentine creatures such as arequesa unkinte or the great

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horned serpent, which is crazy,because if you're going based
off of that ideology or how wellpeople believed or whatever,
like their beliefs and what itdoes, your mom lived in the
village by the water.
And y'all said y'all hadmermaids in the water and then
she saw a thunderbird and it wassupposed to protect people from

(01:03:10):
evil and they considered themevil.
We about to call it.
Right now, put it on thespeakerphone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I don't know if it was the same village, because
they moved around a lot whenthey were little Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
They took the super highway, the Trail of Tears.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
They tell the you talking about the Oregon Trail,
the Oregon Trail.
But that's crazy.
Hold on, shit.
Making sense now, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Right.
Some people saw it like as aharbinger of power.
Some tribes considered seeingor dreaming of a thunderbird as
a sign of power, leadership ordivine favor.
Um certain vision quests orshamanic practices involve
seeking a thunderbird and dreamsor receiving its blessing okay,
so it was like often they'llhave vision with it and

(01:04:02):
everything so whenever youwanted to go get like a
spiritual journey through likethe, the native chief or the
native shaman, right, theyreally just say all right, no,
no little, no little bros insidethis tp.
Right now we about to staple itup and hot box no little bros
allowed go ahead.
Start a fire pit and we're allabout to pass the pipe in this

(01:04:24):
tent, in this leather tent, in100 degree weather, human as
shit, we about to box, thisthing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah, you about to see some.
You definitely about to seesome.
Fuck you about to see some.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Smell like balls and dick in that TV.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
She smell like bison dick up in that shit.
God damn, Fuck bro.
You got about 15 motherfuckersin there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
They skinned it.
They just love the nuts Talkabout some ornaments.
Oh, I love what you done withthe place.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
I call it chandelier.
God damn, oh, I love whatyou've done with the place.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
I call it a chandelier.
God damn, oh man, but like yousaid.
But see, people were saying itwas big enough to take a whale,
but they said, oh, never mind,because that's just a wingspan.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Oh, what you got for wingspan so like some physical
descriptions.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
people said that the wingspan is like 20 to 40 feet
or more Large enough to blockthe sun, like you said.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
There you go.
I didn't even see that.
Some people said it's kind oflike an oversized eagle.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Often like a dark colored bird or whatever.
That's pretty much it.
Talon's capable of liftinggiant whales or giant prey.
That was pretty much it for theappearance.
Yeah, for the appearance.
It was like really big yeah, itwas just big.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Basically.
Basically, let me show youBig-ass bird Rayquaza with wings
.
Rayquaza, that's that hornedserpent.
Rayquaza, was that hornedserpent right there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Tight shit tight shit , zap those.
I was gonna say that doesn'tgot an evolved version does he
damn?
We did say it was that does huh, uh-huh.
I don't know, I don't think soright, that's that's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah, that's that's it for him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
There you go, bro damn, but what else you got,
what else I got, I got you, bro,I got some.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Uh, I got some.
Um, I got some reports, I gotoh evidence yeah, a little bit
of evidence, you know.
If you choose to To believe thatyou know, let me give you one.
That's 1977, pretty recent,honestly pretty recent.
1977 Lawndale, illinois,thunderbird attack was A

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reported attack by twoUnidentified birds On a young
boy.
The attack occurred On July25th 1977.
10 year old marlon low wasplaying outside when he was
suddenly attacked by two largebirds, one of which, one of
which temporarily picked him upand carry him over 30 feet

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before.
Marvin's mother, ruth low, ranto her son's rescue, chasing the
birds away and then recoveringher traumatized son.
Reportedly, severaleyewitnesses had seen the attack
take place.
The birds were described ashaving a white ring around their
necks, a four and a half footbody with each wing
approximately four feet long.

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That's not really that big Asix inch hook bill, three front
claws, one back claw and a largeblack body.
So that was one of the reportsthat, for that one, a lot of
people saw it.
Yeah, that is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
I saw that biologists thought that it could have been
an escaped Andean condor.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I've seen that, yeah, some of the explanations, yeah,
they want to say.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
The other thing I've seen was Because the story was
covered in the newspaper.
Oh, it was covered in thenewspaper.
That story was covered in thenewspaper.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Well, I mean, that makes sense.
It was a recent one.
Yeah, see the condor one.
They were also saying it was a.
I said pterosaurs, pterosaurs.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Bro, I'm not good with dinosaur names, I don't
know Only one I know T-Rex,T-Rex.
T-rex, and I'm not even sayingit right there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
That's what they think some of the sightings were
Like, some of the like whatthey would see, you know, even
though they're obviously adinosaur and they're supposed to
be extinct to.
What I found in the logic is,you know, they were big enough
that they could stay flying fora while.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
you know all that, so I mean, it's a, I was just
about to say that too, it's apossible If a meteor's coming
down.
He's not on the ground, he'sflying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
He's flying and he could stay, like I would imagine
.
Yeah, you know, I figure hecould stay flying for a while,
settle somewhere else where theysay, in terms of color and
South America, stuff like that,those are like they got mountain
ranges.
So it would only make sense.
That's the highest point,that's where it would, in my

(01:08:54):
opinion.
I'm just speculating here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
We like to speculate here All right, I got another
account for you.
I had that one too.
This is a 1948 in alton,illinois, uh, around the
mississippi area, pretty much solike in april 1948.
Um, several townsfolk were uhhold on, sorry, it was in april.

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It was like a man walking nearthe riverbank noticing something
moving in the sky.
First he thought like it was asmall plane oh shit getting
closer and like he startedgetting like a feeling in his
stomach and he was like wait aminute, this ain't no plane or
anything like that.
This thing is like big it's abig giant bird they say it was

(01:09:42):
like a giant bird with wingslike a glider sword overhead,
casting a shadow over the riversurface.
Its wingspan was estimated at15 to 20 feet and its slow,
powerful movements gave theimpression of effortless flight.
News of the sighting spreadquickly in the next few days
would prove that man wasn'timagining things.

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The police workers, townsfolk,workers along the river all
reported the same sight Amassive eagle-like bird, dark in
color, riding the wind currents.
Some said it could block outthe sun for a moment as it
passed.
Others swore they could see itsfeathers ruffling like snails
in a storm I mean sails in astorm, shit, my faultuffling

(01:10:26):
like snails in a storm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
I mean sails in the storm, shit my fault, like sails
in the storm.
So it was like yeah, yeah solike.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
For nearly two weeks the creature appeared in uh
alton, then saint illinois andoverland missouri before
vanishing as mysteriously as itcame.
The sights were documented inlocal newspapers and some
residents began to whisper thatthe old Thunderbird of Native
American legend had returned.
So to this day, no explanation.

(01:10:51):
There's like no explanation.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they just saw it.
It's like a big bird.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
And they're like yeah , we don't know what kind of
bird, that was, but it was justlike massive.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Yeah, we don't know what kind of bird that was, but
it was just like massive.
That was crazy.
That one was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Because you got like multiple people out there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Did y'all see that big ass bird?
Yeah, I was asleep, I ain'tseen nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
He's crazy, get him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Put him in the river.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Bro, I ain't going to lie, bro, if I fall asleep
somewhere and then they tell meyou didn, you ain't seen that
bird or like some crazy shitlike that, and I miss it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
What's that thing that one day you don't go to
work?

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
and everything starts popping up.
Right right, oh my God.
Drake pulled up Kendrick Lamar.
They had a whole rap battle Infront of everybody.
And the friend actually haslike a picture of him taking a
selfie with them tight shit.
Bro that, oh my God bro.
Oh my God bro, just missingthat.
Oh, I would love to see thatright there, yeah that's pretty
crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
That's top of the chain.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
I would love to see it right there.
I got another story for you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
What year was that one?
1948, I think 1940,.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Okay, okay, just making sure.
Okay, I got one from 1890.
Two Arizona Cowboys claimedthis is a short one claimed to
have shot and killed a largebird.
It was described as having nofeathers and it had a head
similar to that of an alligator.
The two men supposedly draggedthe dead bird back to town after

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killing it.
The report seems to suggestthat this creature looked more
like a pterodactyl or a dragonthan than any modern day bird.
And I know there was this otherpicture, but people were saying
that was a mandela fable, thatwas a fake picture oh right, oh,
these people, old people, likea white picture with them, like

(01:12:35):
holding a big ass birdpterodactyl type of bird, yeah,
but um, I thought that's the oneit was, but it's, it's not that
one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Oh, it's a different well, it's a different picture
yeah, it's a different pictureoh, wow dang cause for this one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Apparently they didn't have pictures, they was
just but the picture, one thatwas like um in Delafay type of
type of thing, even though Icould've sworn.
I seen that thing in books inschool and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I could have sworn too.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Uh-huh, they just gaslighting us.
They just gaslighting us,straight up gaslighting bro.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
But that's pretty much all that I got bro.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yeah, that's Because we went over.
Yeah, what people think, thedifferent type of birds and
stuff like that.
Yeah, that's all I got too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
So to yeah, yeah, that's all I got too.
So, to wrap it all up, athunderbird is just a big bird.
Can carry whales, has beensighted and seen in the
mississippi area.
Can lift whales is hung is hung, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Y'all let us know what y'all think.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
What do you rate?

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
that we got a base off.
You know there's not reallyreports.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
I mean it lifted up the kid but the kid got away.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
I mean the mom fought it off.
You know Not to be that guy,but if the mom fought it off,
you know it's not a big burden,I'm just not to be that guy, but
it's not a big bird, I'm justnot a be-there guy, that ain't
dangerous If I was that bird.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
I had a two-by-four, two for one.
It's too easy.
We all eating tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
I don't know, but it doesn't seem to be.
I mean, yeah, it's giant Peoplesaw it and everything um.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
So what?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
you rated, then I get a cool three a cool three, yeah
, dang.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
So if you, if it's able to lift up whales like they
said it, it can I give it likea six bro, but that's just going
based off of the story right,right, that's not going based
off reports that's just me if Iwas just going based off the
folklore type shit yeah I'd giveit a six.

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Based off the folklore, I'd giveit a six yeah, but in the terms
of recent sightings or normal Imean regular sightings or 1948
type of sightings I give it likea three.
I could give it that too it'sjust a big.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
It's just a big ass bird like, yeah, if it was, if
you tell me, like we said, bro,you know, you, you got.
I still haven't found on thetop the the.
What do you call?

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
it again the uh, the beast of digital.
We have yet to find anothercryptid.
That's crazy, it's yeah thatyou know that's and see people
people would say but it's a bigbird, it could lift you up.
Look, vultures are conners arehuge.
Your conners are huge because Iremember I threw the trash away
and there was like a deadanimal behind the trash one time

(01:15:39):
bro.
There was like eight vulturesjust standing there yeah, them
ugly, yeah, yeah and they alljust, but they were like big,
like three foot tall they werelike three foot tall it was.
They were big.
I couldn't really.
I don't know how fucking tallthey were, but they were massive
.
Yeah bro, they just keptlooking at me.

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I'm like should I throw thetrash away?
Do I really need to throw thistrash away?
Should I just go back home?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I was like oh well, I guess I'm gonna fight some
birds today.
Oh, you're talking about theother house.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Oh shit, okay but they all just left me alone.
They just kept looking at me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Yeah, they're yeah, they're not very uh.
You can say like aggressivebirds or stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Yeah but see, if they flew off.
They flew off, then I mean theycould have easily overpowered
me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I feel like they could have, they could have,
they could have happened thatway with me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
They could have put me in daddy's chamber, they
could have done stuff to me,they could have free used me.
All right, all right.
All right, we'll be looking atwho forgot to close the show.
Alright, but um, what is that?

(01:16:48):
Let me look this up later.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
I don't know what that is is that disgusting, just
type in F the whole thingspecific video, specific names,
time snapping, everything Justtype in F the whole thing
Specific video, specific names,time snapping, everything.
Fuck oh you talking about.
Oh, oh, oh.

(01:17:12):
You should have started withvideo.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
But yeah, that's what I give it.
I give it like a three, likeyou said, but if yeah, that
motherfucker was.
If I'm going based off of that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
If he was, head was hey, honey, you know, if they
were out there just takingsnatching kids, you know, just
thinking, you know that, thenyou know, or like picking them
up at least and then droppingthem, you know, some shit like
that, yeah, you know watch outwatch out for him but no, I
agree, I agree 100, but y'alllet us know what y'all think,
let us know if y'all have anypersonal stories or family

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stories passed around.
Right, which I know my grandpawas out fishing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
He saw a big-ass bird and it blocked the sun.
First of all, your grandpawasn't fishing, he was cheating.
I know for a fact.
Your grandpa fucking lied, dog.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Especially your Spanish.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
The cards are telling me I got tarot cards on the
table.
They're telling me your grandpawas cheating on you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Your grandpa was with his second family yo.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Your dad's not your dad, it's your uncle.
Chill the fuck out.
Your dog hates you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Your cat don't love you, your fish will kill itself.
Damn chill.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
But yeah, y'all let us know, though Let us know if
y'all have any interesting factsor anything else about the
Thunderbird or anything we mighthave missed, because I could
not pronounce none of them,tribes or anything like that I
was not even going to try.
I didn't want to make anybodyyeah, I didn't want to butcher
them and do anybody like that?
No, I feel you, I didn't wantto make anybody.
I didn't want to butcher themand do anybody like that.
I feel you.
But yeah, let's go ahead andhead off to the final subject.

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The one we've been in for Parttwo of part one.
Tight shit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Tight, tight, bow, bow bow Took a while while.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
All right, what you got Yan.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
All right, so this one.
If y'all remember class lastweek for y'all, for us about a
month ago.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
We had homework, everybody had homework.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Everybody had homework.
Bring y'all's about to hit aclassic yayo.
In middle school I left mine athome.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
I didn't bring my book back.
What's that beside you?
That's his Bro.
I remember my bad Quick story.
I remember one time I didn'tbring my book back.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
What's that beside you?
That's his Bro.
I remember my bad Quick story.
I remember one time I didn'tbring my homework to school but
this teaching guy was so mad hewas talking about she was going
to hit me and shit, oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
You remember.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
You can bleep out her name.
Oh, I forgot her name though.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I know who you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
You know who I'm?
Nah, vulture, vulture neckMiddle school.
What's her fucking name?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Vulture neck.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yeah, bitch had a turkey neck.
No, she had a waddle Wonk.
Old bitch, english.
No, bro, what was her name?
What was her name?
I can't remember her name, bro,I don't remember.
But that bitch got so mad.
I don't know, but that bitchgot so mad.
I don't know why she got so madbecause I didn't have my

(01:20:04):
homework.
She was like Lord, please don'tlet me put hands on this child.
I look at her like bitch.
I wish you would.
I wish you would bitch.
That's insane bro Over homework,over homework.
I'm a victim.
I'm a victim here.
Here's Cosmic Cove TraumaCenter.
We gonna discuss All the traumaIntroducing our special guest

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the teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
The teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
But yeah, bro, that shit was insane.
Bro.
Whole class said Ooh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
For real.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
I think somebody, somebody, snitched on her Cause
she got, she got, let go oh forreal, I ain't care.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
I was like that's wild I would have looked at her,
can't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
But yeah, she wasn't there.
Once she was there, it was liketowards the end of the year Are
you better than me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
I would have spent like 20 minutes looking in my
book bag, shuffling my papersback and forth, like he's in
here somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
No shuffling my papers back and forth, like it's
in here somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
No, that's what I know.
That's the problem.
That's what I did.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
I raged me I know my homework's in my book bag.
But she went a while I said,hold on, I got it here somewhere
.
She went around and they had tocome back.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
That's why the fuck she was mad you were not gonna
believe this, but I swear it wasright.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
My dog ate it well, I knew a hundred percent when I
started looking at book bag Iain't doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
You're gonna flashback.
Fuck.
I just wrote my name on therelike spongebob writing that
paper.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
You just wrote the well, I ain't doing, but she got
rage with it.
She got rage with it so hardbro she ended up losing her job.
Right 100% knew I did not haveone.
I said hold on, let me look forit, right quick.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
All right.
So for all the people like Yayawas saying, this is going to be
like a continuation of theprevious episode.
We were talking aboutpossessions, that's right.
So this is going to be likestories or accounts that people
have about possessions you wantto start one, yeah, I got-, do
you have like?
Personal ones, or you want tosave those for home.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Yeah, let me save that one, because that one's a
little that was good.
That one's a little crazy, yeah.
So I got short ones because Iknow where we're going to end up
on time.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
I got a bunch of them , though.
All right, you go, you go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Want me to start it off?
Yeah, you go ahead.
Okay, so obviously the story isgoing to be.
I'm going to read them fromtheir point of view, just so
people know.
So the high school I went towas a religious private school.
Already started off bad.
During my senior year it was atradition for the entire class
to go on a religious retreat atthis remote mountain resort.

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The point of the retreat was togrow closer to each other as a
class to find God.
On the third day everyone wasin the main hall.
A girl toppled to the floor.
Everyone stared.
She withered around andscreamed.
It wasn't her scream, it waslike a deep voice scream inside
of her Chill, chill, chill.

(01:23:01):
Who said your voice?
Scream inside of her, chill,chill, chill.
Who said your mom was inside ofher?

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Chill, she fell down, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Fuck Way no mamas.
It's a full white girl Way nomamas.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Damn dog.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
It was like a deep voice scream inside of her.
Then she stood up and startedyelling in tongues.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Oh, it was a stud Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
She slipped on her strap.
She started yelling in tongues.
Her eyes rolled back.
She ran around her strap.
She started yelling in tongues.
Her eyes rolled back.
She ran around the hall.
I honestly thought this was adumb high school prank to freak
everyone out.
The teachers tried to calm herdown, but she kept screaming in
this weird language.
One of the teachers called anambulance.
Another teacher tried to takeher by the shoulders.
She dug her nails into his arm.

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It took several more minutes Tocalm her down and then she just
went quiet.
They took the girl away thatnight and she never came back to
school After the retreat wasover.
I wasn't friends with herfriend.
I wasn't friends with herfriend, so I don't know if they
knew what really happened.
When we were asked afterwards,none of the teachers were

(01:24:21):
allowed to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
So she just had like a whole how do you say it?
Like a whole episode.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
You think she had an episode.
That's what I was going, that'swhat I was just about to ask
you.
Okay, so Because I picked, thestories I picked were kind of oh
, you could look at it from,because there's some other
stories where you know I gotlike the medical because if
y'all remember class, it wasjust last week.
You know, with the whole thing,with being in possession with,

(01:24:49):
you know, sometimes it's amedical case or sometimes it's a
you know, like, how do you knowif it's a true possession, you
know?
So it's good that you say youknow she had an episode.
So that's what comes to mind,you know.
So it's good that you said it'sgood that you say you know she
had a, she had an episode.
So that that's what comes tomind, you know.
But looking at it, you know,look at it from scientific,

(01:25:09):
scientific point of view, yes,she had an episode.
What, what intrigues me, is thetalking in tongues, for for now
we don't have all the research,all the like finer details.
For all we know, she's beentalking gibberish, you know.
I don't know what kind oftongue she was talking like she
fell down to say all yours meal,or hit that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
That's what I would.
Hit, that's what I would hit,honestly sorry look if I fell
down in front of everybody too,I'd be embarrassed and started
acting up too.
That's a good point too, thatjust to save face.
Just to save face.
That way everybody's like Notlike.
That's that girl.
She felt nothing.
Sound like a man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Right, type shit, type shit.
And then come back, guys.
I was supposed to say this.
Guys, please don't bully me.
Type shit, you feel me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Come back, hold on my sweater, on my hands like this.
Guys, I got too silly, y'all.
I got too silly With the catears.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
I'm just shouting at people Ten ten, ten ten.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Them, them freaky ass guys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Oh fuck, that's the one, that's the one.
Grippy Mother fucker, be grippy, gripping like them.
Socks, flat footed andeverything Fuck.
But yeah, so the other thing,the other point I would have was

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they took her out of school.
You know, now you can look atit two ways.
Okay, she had an episode youknow they're dealing with.
Thursday she won't go back toschool, or she faked it.
They know they faked it and itwas just she was like so
embarrassed and they were likeyou know, I won't go back to
school, type shit.
You know we don't have all thedetails.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
That is common, because I mean, you know how
some teenagers are.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Yeah, you know how some teenagers are.
Being a teenager is hard.
It's a weird head space.
It's a weird time and space.
You're growing up.
You have so much emotions,hormones and everything Hormones
.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Why do I have a boner during this math test?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Is it okay to be a girl and have a dick Stuff like
that?
Why is?

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
the teacher always calling my name when I'm hard.
They know I'm hard.
Why is it two-toned?
Why do I have a Neapolitan icecream colorway Stuff like that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Why does the teacher always bend his ass over in
front of my desk?
Why he always doing the?
I spiced a move, but yeah,that's just one to get it
rolling, just to get it rolling,just to get it.
No, yeah, I only have two longones.
Go ahead, bro, go ahead, butyou're good bro so this is the
ammons family possession.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
This is gary, indiana , from 2011 to 2014.
So in a quiet neighborhood ingary indiana, uh, lat Latoya
Amos moved into a small rentedhouse at 3860 Carolina Street
with their mother, rosa Campbell, and her three children ages

(01:28:11):
seven, nine and twelve.
At first everything was normal,but then, the first few weeks,
the family began to noticesomething was off Excuse me, it
started with flies.
Began to notice something wasoff excuse me, it started with
flies.
Even in the dead of winter,swarms of large black flies
would gather around the screenporch.
No matter how many they killed,they just kept popping back,

(01:28:31):
okay, okay, all right.
So after that they kept hearinglike footsteps echoing through
the house upstairs, but therewas like no one there.
The doors creaked open on theirown soon after, wet boot prints
began appearing mysteriously onthe floor, and then things took
a crazy turn like the nextcouple days so, like in late
december, rosa campbell woke inthe middle of the night to find

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her 12 year old daughter wellgranddaughter levitating above
her bed.
Her eyes were rolled back, thegirl's body was rigid, so the
grandma was like terrified.
Rosa and latoya began praying.
Eventually the girl slowlyfloated back onto the mattress.
From that point on, thechildren like changed she was

(01:29:15):
dyslexic she was sleeping wrong.
She was really sleeping.
How you're supposed to sleep?
Because apparently I'm sleepingwrong in every position,
according to all theseprofessionals out there that say
I can't sleep right.
They're like oh, you sleepdoing the figure four.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
You're sleeping wrong , You're hurting your back, so
you're not sleeping with yourass up face down.
You're sleeping wrong.
That's not how you're sleeping.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
You're hurting your chest.
You don't sleep with the pillowbetween your legs.
You're sleeping wrong.
Fuck, what am I supposed to do?
Levitate good for your back.
Um, they said that the kidsstarted like speak like they
growled.
One boy was thrown across theroom by an unseen force fuck.
The seven-year-old spoken deepvoices describing what it felt

(01:30:01):
like to be killed.
Uh, the nine-year-old walkedbackward up a wall in front of
medical staff a moment witnessedand documented walked backward
up a wall I know the story.
Yeah, I know the story and um,after like this, like later,

(01:30:22):
like that was like an incidentduring december, this was like
in april.
The next part that happenedafter multiple 9-11 calls, child
protective services and localpolice officers got involved.
A dcs uh or child childprotective service case worker,
uh, valerie valerie washingtonuh, escorted the family to a

(01:30:43):
local hospital for psychiatricevaluation and they went to like
a methodist church or amethodist hospital my fault and
the nine-year-old nine-year-oldboy began growling, cursing and
saying it's time to die.
I will kill you.
He then.
He then looked his brother inthe eyes and said it's time to
die.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
I will kill you.
He then looked his brother inthe eyes and said it's time to
die.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
I will kill you.
That's what he was sayingpretty much and um, what the
fuck, is this the same thing?
Oh no, this was the wholeincident where he walked up the
wall because they said, likewhat, that was happening when
they went to the hospital that'swhen he ended up walking up the
wall backwards, flipped overhis grandmother and then landed

(01:31:25):
on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
He said check this out boom, that's it right, right
, right landed.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
He's had the adhd, they said.
After that happened, everybodyin the room ran out and,
according to the psychiatricperson, they said I have never
seen anything like this in 20years of practice.
I'm convinced somethingunexplainable is happening.
Uh, afterwards the dcs sent anagent along with with Gary

(01:31:51):
police officers back to the hometo investigate.
They had the caseworker, theyhad a police captain, charles
Austin, and two other officersInside the house.
They encountered overwhelmingdread.
They took photographs in thebasement where they found
strange oily substances drippingfrom the walls.
In one photo a phantom figurewith hollow eyes appeared near

(01:32:15):
the window.
The officers confirmed no onewas present besides them, one
officer.
One officer's recordermalfunctioned and his car
electronic shut down afterleaving the site.
The same thing happened tomultiple electronic devices.
Captain austin, the 25 year oldveteran, said I was a believer.
After that I witnessed things Ican't explain.

(01:32:35):
I was scared and then afterthat they pretty much had, like
the exorcist, the exorcism likethe whole thing.
So father michael man manigot orI don't know how you say that a
catholic priest was contactedto evaluate the case.
After interviewing the familyand seeing medical records and
police reports, he declared thisfamily is truly tormented by

(01:32:58):
demonic forces.
He performed a minor exorcismwith permission from the diocese
of gary and then laterconducted three full exorcism,
including one in latin which islike the, the og one the most
powerful one you can say yeah.
So during these, latoya convolscreamed and went into trances.

(01:33:20):
The children had to be removedfrom her custody during this
time for safety, um, and then,pretty much like after the final
exorcism, the family moved out.
The house on carolina streetwas eventually abandoned.
Latoya had never had likeanother incident after leaving
the house and in 2014, zachbaggins um purchased the home

(01:33:42):
and filled the documentarydocumentary titled the demon
house, claiming he to experienceviolent nightmares, physical
harm and unexplainablephenomenon while staying there.
But in 2016, uh, I guess thecity oh no, zach bagans himself
demolished the house in 2016,citing it was too dangerous to

(01:34:04):
remain standing, so hedemolished it.
But that was pretty much it.
Oh, no, no.
So if people do want to lookthis stuff up, hospital and dcs
reports are public record.
There are some files that aresealed, but you can look this
stuff up.
There's over like 800 pages ofdocumentation compiled by the

(01:34:27):
state.
Uh, the story was covered byany indianapolis star us today
and several investigativejournalists.
Um, they said there was like no, no trace of fraud found or
anything like that.
This is all like legit.
So it was like documentedwitnesses everything, so I

(01:34:48):
remember this one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
They tried so hard to disprove the oh this is the one
you were talking about?
Uh-huh, this is the one.
They threatened that poor ladywith taking her kids.
I remember they got caught upon the fact I remember where the
kid did the backflip Well, youknow, when he walked up on the
wall and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
He said watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
They got so caught up on the fact because the grandma
was holding the kid and he didit.
They got so caught up with thefact that, no, he was just so
athletic, they didn't want togive him the thing that they
were possessed.
They said the grandma helpedthem do that.
They stood on that point for solong.

(01:35:28):
I'm like, bro, the kids werelevitating.
Y'all saw so much stuff thatwas going on inside the house.
When they sent people to thehouse, stuff was happening at
the house in front of them butthey wanted to disprove that
story.
So bad, bro.
So so bad.
They wanted to disprove it, bro.
But that is a really good story.

(01:35:52):
Yeah possession story.
Yeah, story, yeah, what you gotgoing on, buddy, what you got.
Let's check this out.
This was from hispanics.
My friend's mom believed thatsomeone had put a curse on her
in her village.
You hired a curandero or abrujo witch for this stuff.
One paid her a house visit andit turned out that she had been

(01:36:14):
cursed.
According to him, a jealousex-lover of her ex of her
husband, had put a petty wick, awicked one, on her.
He said he would perform aritual that might that night to
dispel the evil, but she had torelax and close her eyes
completely because he was goingto summon a great spirit who was
not supposed to be seen byhumans or something like that.

(01:36:37):
The brujo does all his businesswhile her daughter uh, the
person telling the story'sfriend is there for support.
The brujo starts chanting andthe room becomes heavy and loud,
gradually building up.
She couldn't see anythingbecause her eyes were closed,
but she felt a presence in theroom.
Then she heard growling andhowling, all sorts of
animalistic animals.

(01:36:58):
The broho said he had found awilling wolf spirit to trace and
eliminate the curse.
My friend told me she hadpretty much, uh, that she pretty
much shat herself hoping to forit to be over.
After a few hours, the noisesfinally stopped and the room
fell out again.
Then the men said that thespirit had done this job and
that her mom was good to go.

(01:37:19):
Uh, it blew my mind, since shewas healthy as an ox.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
The next day still give me chills she just had taco
bell stuck in that thing.
That's what she had.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
She had a little thing.
She had a little thing stuckright there oh my stomach Fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Her shit was a little fucked up, she just clogged up,
she just needed some.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Some Pepto Right, what's the other one?
No, she needed some.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Laxatives.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Yeah, milanex, is that Milanex?
No, no, no, that's notLaxatives.
The M one no, no, no, that'snot laxatives.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
The M one, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
That's not laxatives.
Who said mucinex, mylana?
Yeah, no, that's like Pepto.
Yeah, that's like Pepto, butyeah, that's it for that one.
Want me to give you another onereal quick?
Yeah, you got it All right.
So this one dated someone for afew years with dissociative

(01:38:17):
identity disorder, who oftenbecame, quote unquote, possessed
by these strange entities thatconsist of many mythological
species and often havefantasy-style names Elves,
vampire, werewolf, you name it.
His story was that he thoughtthat humanity was killing the
earth and that he was on amission to eradicate all human
life.
So I put that one in therebecause it's the same thing as

(01:38:41):
that was the same thing as justpeople with mental issues
thinking that they're thinkingthat they're processing whatnot
like the whole.
Like we said that they're, uh,thinking that they're processing
whatnot like the whole.
Um, like we said what I wassaying, like on the last episode
, that you got to determinewhether it's actually, uh,

(01:39:03):
mental illness or if they'reactually going through something
, like with your case, your case, you know you, there was so
much documented stuff that wasgoing on.
you know people different typesof people saw it, people that
didn't even believe in that kindof stuff.
They admitted to, you know,believing in everything.
And then you have someone thatjust thinks that they're
possessed, you know, quote,unquote possessed, and they just

(01:39:25):
live their life going on thatway.
You know it's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Yeah, that's like we said, how people sometimes, um
how would you say like promthemselves they promise
themselves yeah or they liketrick their brain yeah into
believing that something's goingon when he's really not kind of
like the whole um, likemedicine stuff.
Like you know, sometimes likethe doctors will prescribe
people like sugar pills to makethem yep make them believe that

(01:39:51):
they're doing something butthey're really not.
They're just using like fancyterms yeah, get him.
So let's go ahead and uh scamthis dude.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Uh, let's charge him like 300 for his medicine right
and I mean, and honestly, ifthat works, then you know that,
then that works for that person.
But when you have an actualcase, you know you gotta look at
it a little, a littledifferently.
You know you can't just gostraight science or straight
like just just based off whatyou're, uh, what you're seeing,

(01:40:21):
because you know people can putup a front, people can act a
certain way, um, and justmislead you and making the right
conclusion or the right, uh,taking the right step to get
them help yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
That's kind of like how, uh, I used to tell my mom
so I wouldn't go to school.
There's people in the closetand they just keep staring at me
.
That's why I couldn't sleep.
Nah, you need to get your assto school.
You need to get up, go toschool.
You're good that shit, justyour imagination no, I'm just
joking.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
I was about to say no , if I was this or shit like
that, I'll be taking my ass toschool, but I would.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
I would have done that like as a kid that just
like scared my mom.
You know they talk about you,right?
You know the people, the shadowpeople tell me that you're not
really my mom.
Boy, smack, I saw you come outof me, smack, smack.
Oh, dog bro, all right, so thisone is a possession case that

(01:41:18):
happened in Natal, south Africa,in 1906.
So in the remote region of Natal, south Africa, 16-year-old
Clara Germana Selle lived at StMichael's Mission School, a
Roman Catholic boardinginstitution run by missionary

(01:41:38):
nuns.
She was an orphan, quiet anddevout, baptized at age eight
and lived a relatively peacefullife among the other girls.
But everything changed whenClara confessed a horrifying
secret to a priest during aprivate meeting.
I made a pact with Satan.
I called to him and he came.
Shortly after confession,strange things began to happen.

(01:41:59):
Her behavior became erratic.
She tore at her clothes,growled like a beast in often
spoken languages she neverlearned, including Latin, german
, polish and French.
The nuns noted she developed anunnatural hatred of holy
objects.
Crucifixes caused her to screamin agony.
Agony.
Holy water burned her skin,though it was already, though it

(01:42:19):
was only sprinkled sorry.
So within weeks, claradisplayed inhuman abilities.
Nuns and priests documented thefollowing phenomena clara would
reveal the deepest secrets ofpeople she had never met,
personal sins, confessed, investand private.
She developed telepathicabilities, knowing what people
were thinking or about to say.
Her voice would shift into deepmasculine tones, even speaking

(01:42:42):
in multiple voices at once.
She began levitating five feetoff the ground, an event
witnessed by 170 people in thechapel.
One nun wrote in her journalHer eyes glowed, not with light,
but with something darker.
We could feel it in the room Ahatred for everything holy.
She became violent, lashing outwith superhuman strength,

(01:43:05):
throwing grown men across therooms and injuring several
people.
During her fits, clara wouldrip her own skin, Yet show no
pain or blood loss.
Her face would contour and herlimbs twisted unnaturally, like
they were no longer bound bybone or tendon.
So the church approved anofficial exorcism which, which
was performed by two romancatholic priests, father man

(01:43:29):
suet and er eromasas eromas,some shit like that.
They kept strict records of theevent.
The exorcism took place overtwo days, with clara screaming,
growling and vomiting black bile.
She spoke in multiple languagessimultaneously, including
ancient arama, aramic andbiblical hebrew language.

(01:43:50):
She never studied, so duringthe whole exorcism, or whatever,
she attempted to strangle apriest with her own robe cord, I
think, or whatever you want tocall it.
She floated above the bed andclung to the ceiling like a
spider.
She shrieked when shown aconsecrated eucharist or holy

(01:44:14):
relics uh, she blasphemed christand the virgin mary spinning on
images of them.
At one point clara screamed Iam legion, we are many.
You have no power here, priest.
The exorcism climaxed when shecollapsed violently, how it
enraged and finally passed out.
Witnesses reported a foulsulfuric stench filled in the

(01:44:35):
air then suddenly vanished.
After the second day claraawoke with no memory of the
possession.
She was weak and shaken, butcalm.
Her voice returned to normaland she no longer recalled from
sacred objects.
The demonic behavior seizedentirely.
Clara remained under the care ofthe nuns for several more years
and there were no furtherincidents.

(01:44:56):
She returned to her studies,lived a quiet life and was never
possessed again.
So the case was documented bycatholic missionaries and
written about in germanreligious journals.
Uh.
Witness accounts were recordedby the catholic truth society.
The event was later cited inmalachi martin's research and

(01:45:18):
reference in early exorcismtraining for clergy.
Over 170 people includingmissionaries, workers, other
students and clergy witness herlevitation and violent outburst.
Though clara's case is now overa century old.
It remains one of the mostviolent, incredible examples of
possession ever recorded inpre-digital africa.

(01:45:38):
So what makes this thing morelike?
it could be true she didn't haveany like known illnesses for
like being mentally like likehaving any, like mental things
or any trauma or anything thatcould have caused this to happen
.
Uh, another thing is she wasable to like speak in other

(01:46:02):
languages fluently, that she hadnever studied or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Like she was able to speak in like polish yeah I was
gonna say, for me also is thefact that she, she, she got, she
can't acknowledge from whatpeople were gonna say before.
David said it right and I thinkit's a very in like true
possession, uh, cases.
I think it's like those majorpoints that you want to look at,
like not only is she got supersuperhuman strength, you know,

(01:46:31):
um, even though, like we saidbefore, it can be adrenaline but
speaking different languagesthat you haven't spoken.
I know there's a medicalcondition with that, but that's
usually once you go in the comaand then come out of it.
So that wasn't her case.
She was just speaking thoselanguages, like we said, the
superhuman strength, but thetelepathy telepathy, uh, in the

(01:46:56):
sense of what people were goingto say beforehand um, that that
for me that's, that's like a,that's the case right there.
That's a possession, that'sthat's.
See, I would have.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
I would have easily solved that whole issue right
there.
I would have told told him rock, paper scissors If I win, you
got to go.
In my head I would have beensaying rock, but I would have
threw paper.
Who would have Ty, ty, shit.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
Bro, I would have tried that.
Fuck he's good, I would havetricked myself, bro I would have
tricked myself.
And for him to think I wasgoing to throw paper when I said
rock in my mind, I would havejust threw scissors.
That way I would have trickedmyself.
Dang you tricking him and you,I'm tricking everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
Even god's like fuck, he's good let's make him ahead
of the exorcism uh communityright the tax force exorcism
task force that that was a goodone.
I already like that one yeah,cause it's crazy, because all
this stuff is documented.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
It's documented yeah, that's the other thing.
They have all these actualfacts and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Yeah so they can't really say it's fake yeah, they
can't say it's Hollywood rightthey can't say.
It's one of those Anne andLorraine fake, fake, fake
stories that they're out heredoing lying, saying that they're
exercising.
They ain't exercising shit,they just exercising the money
out your pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
We'll cover them next episode.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
Right, I was fooled.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Lying too.
I want my money back.
I dedicated my life to that.
To the whole universe, to thewhole universe, just for it to
be fake.
Now, what's the other thingthat I like is the fact that it
went back to normal, likenothing ever happened, which I
mean, if she got liberated or ifit just passed away, I mean,

(01:48:43):
yeah, she wouldn't have a needto keep if she was faking it.
To keep up with that, I feellike if you're faking it, you
will want to keep keep doing it.
You know you want to keep doingit, but the fact she's went
like back to normal, justbecause they started her she
didn't eat for like two days.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
She's like fuck, I can't hold this up no more, I
gotta eat something she saidfuck this, I'm not doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
I'm doing this anymore.
I'm tired of this attention.
Well, that was really good.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
I really well, they say, when they got the demons
out, it smelled like sulfur.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Sulfur, that's another thing.
The sulfur, it's Taco Bell.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
And my stomach hurt that bad I would be acting crazy
.
I'd be levitating.
Y'all never seen me with theupset stomach.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
He'd be a little round, I'd blow my stomach,
start throwing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, get out
Start.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
Get out.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
Start hitting me with leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Get out it's cilantro , it's not even though, sorry
guys, I got a little silly, Ilost my cool.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
I'm not me without a Snickers.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
I was about I was just about to say that.
I was like you need a Snickerswater.
Without you, you got a Snickers.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Damn bro.
Go ahead bro.
What you got?
That was my last one, that wasyour last.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
That was really good.
Alright was really good, allright.
Uh, all right.
My dad is a pastor.
He started at a church andduring the one service, while we
were doing the worship, a guystarted acting strange and
rolling his eyes back.
Pretty normal, pissed off.
Quote, unquote.
All the pastors took the kidsout the main hall so we wouldn't
be uh, attacked, my parentsclaimed.

(01:50:09):
He started throwing the pastorsaround the room and we got the
superhuman strength.
Then, after my dad commandedthe demon to come out, he threw
up some green stuff on the floorand couldn't remember anything.
I'm not sure how much of thisstory I really believe.
So again, we got the superhumanstrength.
Like we said before, it couldjust be adrenaline rush and all

(01:50:33):
that stuff, the green stuff onthe floor.
Talk about Baja Blast Too manygreens.
It had a green juice.

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
The green machine, the green machine.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
There you go.
That's the one I was trying toget to eat.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
It was his kombucha, that's what it was.
He was vegan.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
That's it for that one.
Like you know, when you look atthat you're already saying
quote unquote, possessed.
You know who really knows if itreally they were possessed or,
like we said before, they'rejust faking it.
You know, I got another oneright here.
You know, um, I got another oneright here.

(01:51:16):
Uh, my sister went through asort of quote-unquote possession
, but I think it stands morefrom trauma over our parents
getting divorced and was justsome roundabout form of coping.
She saw demons and mirrors, hadauditory hallucinations and
even acting like a demon.
My mother called down ourpastors from our church and I
mostly just try to stayuninvolved through the process.
She went to a mental hospitalfor a few weeks and came back

(01:51:37):
really meek.
She became religious and stayedattached to my mom for a while.
She's not as religious now butcertainly still likes her some
Jesus.
Amazingly, they went throughthe you know the science way
turned her to to get help andeverything like that came back

(01:51:59):
normal, like she's.
Like she prefaced at thebeginning.
I like that.
She prefaced it at thebeginning.
You know they were goingthrough a divorce and what not,
and I mean, if that's a copingmechanism, that's a coping
mechanism.
You know, I think we would haveI'd have done the same thing.
I mean, if she's acting likethat, you know you, you gotta

(01:52:20):
look at it like you know whatyou gonna do like she went
through that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
What I did was I just eventually moved out and then,
like I, made a podcast.
I'm still trying to get over myparents divorce and the fact
that I never met my dad.
I'm over that shit, honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
Let me give you another one right here.
That was a weird episode in myvillage.
I am from India, a ruralvillage in a backward state.
It is near China and mostlyjungle.
My uncle once heard an owlhooting near our house one night
.
Since we consider owls hootinga bad omen, my uncle took his

(01:53:00):
gun and tried to shoot the owl.
He pointed his flashlighttowards the sound and saw the
owl, but it flew away as soon ashe aimed his gun.
Now it so happened that after aweek or so we got the news that
someone in the village had beenpossessed.
Being one of the elders, myuncle had to see what was
happening and I tagged alongwith him.

(01:53:20):
He went there to check on thequote-unquote possessed person.
The person was riven and whenmy uncle arrived but as soon as
he saw my uncle he jumped up.
He started pointing at my uncleand saying he's not good.
When asked why, he said hetried visiting my uncle as an
owl, but my uncle wanted toshoot him, so he flew away.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
Damn bro.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
Oh, they keep saying damn, you're so in my pants.
And then in there, the oldhooting was a very minor affair
for our family and we didn'ttell anyone about it.
No clue what happened.
That was the first and lastpossession incident I went to.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Damn bro.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
So I don't know if that's really a possession, but
I mean for a person to breakcharacter and say I tried
basically him as an owl and youknow the as of now and you know
the uncle's actually saw now,you know, a week before.
That's not a possession, that'sa damn witch, that you know what
you know, the person that wasbeing like quote-unquote,

(01:54:22):
possessed.
He said he visited the uncle.
So, you know, was it justknowledge that that he had?
You know, like that knowledgefrom that lady you know he had a
knowledge, or was it maybe thedemon travis and the uncle was
just talking through the guy youknow?

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
um, we don't know, but uh, no, those are some
pretty crazy stories right there, bro, they'll be having some
crazy encounters right for meit's like when they have like
multiple witnesses, because justone thing, if you just have
like three people andeverybody's like uh, yeah, I saw
this or I saw that right but ifyou have multiple people

(01:55:04):
witnessing it, then it's like Icould believe it more a little
bit more, yeah, I mean they do.
They do say there's like masshysteria.
I was just about to say thesame thing.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
But I don't know, you can prime each other also.
If just one person is, you know, you can probably hold like,
well, that goes with masshysteria, you can prime
everybody just to start thinkingthe same way.
So I mean, who knows really?
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
I don't even know what to say, bro.
There's a, because you saidyou'd never witnessed nothing
like that before, right I?

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
haven't witnessed a possession myself.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
I haven't either.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
In my family we got a certain.
We got some stories of, yeah,possession, but some of the
stories not really possession isjust someone doing witchcraft
to another person and possessingthem that way in a sense.
So it's not like a full on.
You know we brought a priestdown and then you know the house

(01:56:08):
.
You know they had to do a wholeexorcism.
It was more like someone wantedsomething from them and the
only way they could get them todo whatever they wanted was by
quote-unquote possessing themand making them do whatever they
wanted that shit is crazy, bro,I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
Y'all let me know what y'all think.
Y'all let us know in thecomments or message us if y'all
have any crazy possessionstories that y'all might have
encountered or heard from yourfamily or something I know.
Like in mexican culture, bro,they be having so much crazy
stories bro it's likeeverybody's family has had some
form of possession.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
Demon encounter or run into witching.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Yeah, something, bro, y'all just can't, y'all just
can't stay chill, huh, huh.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Right, it's always something going on.

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
Or your aunt did this to the family.
That's why I have no eyeballsDeadass.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
That's why I have one .

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
That's why I'm missing one eyeball.
Or did you know we used to haveall this land, but then your
uncle or your dad, something,something.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
That's what happened.
I mean, y'all don't hear thethe story, but some shit like
that happened to us, like overland.
But I'm gonna be finding overland that shit is crazy though
but y'all let us know what y'allthink.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
Let us know if y'all have any stories or any personal
encounters, like we said, aboutdemon possessions or anything
you might have seen or heardfrom your family or something.
But I guess we're gonna end offthis episode on that, was it
right?
yeah, that was it for me, Iguess we're gonna end this off
this episode on that, was itright?
Yeah, that was it for me.
I guess we're going to end thisepisode off on this note.
You know, thank you forlistening.
Thank you for always tuning inevery week.
You know, sorry, we haven'tbeen super consistent with the

(01:57:41):
TikToks and the podcast videosor podcast, I guess.
Itself.
It's just like I said, we'vebeen super busy.
Like I said, it's not that wewant to get away from the
podcast, it's just that we haveso much going on, and especially
with me being enrolled inschool, I'm going to be super
busy now.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
Oh, you're going to enroll.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
I got to start school in August, the end of August.
If I don't have the TikTokpodcast uploaded by that time,
I'm sorry.
Yo I'll get to it.
I'm going to try and do fulltime, so I'm gonna be like
having four classes a semesterokay, but I'll see how it goes.
I might just accidentallyupload a podcast episode as one

(01:58:24):
of my assignments.
Teachers, like what the fuck isthis?
that's your ass, but put me onthe next episode no, but uh,
yeah, like I said, uh, justthank y'all so much for your
patience, for your understanding.
Thank you so much for all thepeople that streamed.
I think it was last week or thefollowing week before we,

(01:58:44):
literally our viewership, wentit like spiked up.
So high that shit went up tolike 60 people listen one
episode, not not one, butmultiple episodes yeah I don't
know.
It's like the algorithm pushedus out or something hell yeah,
our viewership just went realquick and I was like, damn, I
like that a whole lot.
That's pretty cool.
It gave me the motivation Ineeded and helped me get off my

(01:59:06):
ass like don't forget you, yougotta wait, there's people
listening.

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
There's people listening.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
Don't think that nobody's gonna be right not
listening because I mean, peopletend to lose the drive when
they feel like they don't seeprogress.
But there's progress going on,whether it be behind the scenes
or it might not be in front ofyour face, but you know people
will be like oh yeah, I rememberseeing cosmic code somewhere,
and then right you know they'lltune back in or whatever, but,

(01:59:32):
like I said, thank you so muchfor tuning in everybody.
Thank you for all the peoplethat still come back and listen
to us.
Shout out to my cousin, pepe.
Thank you for always listening.
Sorry about the whole casinothing.
I didn't mean to lose you themoney.
My bad, pepe, I'll get themoney back for you, I promise,
uh.
Shout out to my girlfriend.
Thank you so much for listening.
Thank you for trying to catchup on the podcast episode, uh,

(01:59:55):
and shout out to all the peoplethat, like I said before, tune
in every week.
You know much love to y'all.
I don't know I don't know y'all, but you know much love to
y'all.
I really appreciate it oh, myfault.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
You just want to get a shout out, sammy jeff, for
listening to my family, for uh,still listening, you know, and
uh, um, just asking howeverything's going, and uh, and
we're still doing the podcast,stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:18):
But, but, um, I promise, we just uploaded the
tiktoks.
I have the tiktoks out, so ify'all want to go on tiktok and
go view the videos or whateveryou know, I'd really appreciate
it now, sammy.
Sammy was cracking up on thelast one like yeah I told him it
feels good like just seeingsomeone, like actually like yeah
, like enjoying, like yeah likeactually yeah it does feel
really good it makes you feellike like, okay, like yeah yeah,

(02:00:41):
at least somebody gets thehumor, someone laughs about it
because we don't mean to sayanything that might be like too
offensive or something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
We're just joking, we're all just like trying to
laugh, you know especiallythrough these hard times right
now.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
Yeah, and this economy but uh yeah, like I said
, thank you so much again.
Be sure to follow us on cosmiccove, at k-o-s-m-i-c underscore
c-o-v-e on youtube and on tiktokk-o-s-m-i-c space C-O-V-E on
YouTube.
Right, yeah, that's right, butI haven't posted on YouTube in a

(02:01:17):
minute because that's where weget our most hate.
Motherfuckers stay hating onthat thing.

Speaker 2 (02:01:23):
That's what YouTube is, bro.
That's what.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
YouTube is now, bro Motherfuckers, stay disliking
the video, Like bro, damn Fuckyou Don't't get through the
video, but just hit that.
It's like right, they just seea couple mexican dudes.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
Yeah, these dudes ain't funny just like hey, but
you can't think like that thoughright, you ain't gonna get
nowhere thinking like that, butI'll post on youtube eventually.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
I promise y'all, give me some time, give me some
space, you know, and like wesaid before, if there's any
editor out there that wants tobe an intern or something, shout
out ZipRecruiter.
Shout out ZipRecruiter, hit upthe line, we'll talk something
out.
We really do need an editor.
We need one real bad.
We'll talk the details whenevery'all message us.

(02:02:07):
But on that note, we'll catchon next episode.
So peace, peace.

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