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A stranger’s voice in a burning stairwell, a crimson shape sliding under desert sand, and a man who stepped out of a jet with $200,000 and vanished—tonight we follow the thin line between danger and the stories that keep us alive. We start with Third Man Syndrome, the eerie reports of a calm, unseen presence that appears in extreme crises. From Shackleton’s ice-haunted march to an Everest near-summit and a 9/11 survivor’s steady guide, we unpack the psychology—stress, isolation, sensory deprivation, and the brain’s protective storytelling—without dismissing the spiritual pull of guardian angels. The patterns are startling, and the survival lessons are real: train your mind to be the voice you need under pressure.

Then we head into the Gobi to meet the Mongolian death worm. Acid spit, electric shocks, and a habit of emerging after rare rains—folklore frames a perfect desert predator. We balance local accounts with science: sand boas, legless lizards, spitting elapids, and the way deserts hide both animals and evidence. Whether it’s a misidentification or a hidden species, the message is simple—harsh landscapes reward respect, timing, and preparation.

Finally, we chart Dan “DB” Cooper’s immaculate heist: bourbon, a briefcase, four parachutes, exacting flight specs, and a midnight jump from a 727’s rear stairs. Calm demands, a flawless exit, and decades of theories—lost in the woods, a clean landing with a getaway car, or a cold river that kept his secret. We sift the clues, from riverbank cash to letters with cockpit-level detail, and ask what his plan teaches about managing risk when variables multiply.

If you love sharp storytelling about survival psychology, cryptids, aviation history, and unsolved mysteries, this one’s for you. Listen, then tell us your take: guardian mind or guardian angel? Worm or misread tracks? Did Cooper walk away? Subscribe, share with a friend who loves weird history, and leave a review with your boldest theory—we’ll read our favorites on the show.

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SPEAKER_00 (00:35):
Welcome Cosby Gold family to another episode.

SPEAKER_03 (00:38):
Welcome we live.
We live.
We live.

SPEAKER_06 (00:43):
We are live.
We are recording.
48, 49, 50.
The numbers are moving.

SPEAKER_00 (00:51):
Numbers are moving.
That means when the red dot ison, that means we are recording.

SPEAKER_05 (00:57):
You could afford me.

SPEAKER_00 (00:58):
Shit.
Hey.
Hey, every every mistake, it's achance to improve.
That's how y'all look at it.
And every improvement make youmake more mistakes because you
improve.
There you go.
Never end the cycle, yo.
Never end the cycle.
Never stop.
Never stop improving.
Never stop fucking up.
Low key, that's on a t-shirtsomewhere.
It gotta be on the t-shirtsomewhere.

(01:19):
What'd it do, Cosmic Cove?

SPEAKER_02 (01:21):
What happened, y'all?

SPEAKER_00 (01:24):
What happened?
I had so many jokes.
No, I'm just saying, no, no, no.
Nah.
But but luckily they hear allthat early.
That's really why it happened.

SPEAKER_05 (01:36):
The camera got everything.

SPEAKER_00 (01:37):
Camera about to see everything.

SPEAKER_05 (01:40):
But um, what it do, everybody.
It's been a minute since we'verecorded.
That's my fault.
That's my bad.
Nonsense, nonsense.
You get so caught up in work andeverything, but that's besides
the point.

SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
Really, we can blame Bake Pharma.
Rarely.
If you need to blame someone,always blame Bake Pharma.
Always, no matter what.
It's all it's it's always theirfault.
Always.

SPEAKER_05 (02:04):
Either that or the Jews.

SPEAKER_06 (02:12):
She already knew.
According to our editor, it wasthe Jews.

SPEAKER_03 (02:22):
Look.

SPEAKER_06 (02:22):
I want to say it so bad, but no one is free over.

SPEAKER_03 (02:26):
She said Jew with a heart art.
A Jewer.

SPEAKER_00 (02:35):
The worst kind.
Always.
Never mind.
I'm gonna get calm.
I'm gonna get I'm they're gonnasay I'm anti-Semitic, but start
throwing a couple jokes, andthen everybody stopped laughing.

SPEAKER_05 (02:52):
Look, I'm gonna tell y'all a simple thing.
If you don't know what wordsmean, words can't hurt you.
Sticks and stones break bones,but words can never hurt.
Words can never hurt.
I was thinking, I was like,fuck, what's next?

SPEAKER_00 (03:05):
I was like, mm-mm.
Google.
Finish the sentence with you.
What the fuck goes next?
Hey, Google.

SPEAKER_03 (03:11):
That's that question on your test, bro.
That shit would have got you.
What was Beethoven's firstinstrument?

SPEAKER_05 (03:19):
Answer now.

SPEAKER_00 (03:20):
This counts for 50% of your grave.
I just they just told me this.
They just told me.
It was the Volva.

unknown (03:29):
The Volvo.

SPEAKER_00 (03:30):
The Volvo.
What's that in?
Volkswagen.

unknown (03:33):
Huh?

SPEAKER_03 (03:33):
What's that in, though?
Nah, it was the Viola.
Viola.
That goddamn it.
That should sound like a bodypart.

SPEAKER_00 (03:39):
Nah, that's from uh that's just from Southfield.

SPEAKER_05 (03:43):
What?

SPEAKER_00 (03:43):
Volva.

SPEAKER_05 (03:44):
Volva?

SPEAKER_00 (03:45):
Uh-huh.
That's what I heard, I think.

SPEAKER_05 (03:48):
The car?

SPEAKER_00 (03:49):
Uh-uh.
It's uh it's I don't know whatthe fuck it is.

SPEAKER_05 (03:51):
Volva.

unknown (03:52):
Look it up.
Volvo?

SPEAKER_00 (03:53):
Nah, I ain't gonna look it up right now.

unknown (03:55):
You should.

SPEAKER_00 (03:56):
Chill, bro.
Chill.

SPEAKER_05 (03:58):
What is it?

SPEAKER_00 (03:59):
Uh I think it's I think it is a body part, but it
was like uh it was an episodewhere Jay was trying to figure
out uh this girl's name.
Oh and he was like, and she waslike, uh whoa, rhymes with the
body part Volva.
Volva.
What is it?
Yeah, that's like the lips, no?
Ew, ew, what the fuck?
They got lips?
Y'all can tell.
Sorry guys, we're a bunch ofvirgins over here.

(04:21):
Sorry, y'all.
So that's the medical term forit, for real.

SPEAKER_05 (04:24):
Oh, that's just like a myth.
Like the um, it's just faketerms.

SPEAKER_06 (04:34):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (04:36):
It's just made believe, huh?

SPEAKER_06 (04:38):
On the topic of legends today.

SPEAKER_00 (04:42):
What a what a transition.

SPEAKER_05 (04:44):
What a segue.
No, but uh what'd it do,everybody?
Like we said, uh, what what youbeen up to, bro?

SPEAKER_00 (04:49):
I said, I don't feel like I I've been uh I've been uh
I've been a dad to a third to athird uh Paparoonie.
He's sleeping again, just likelast episode.

SPEAKER_05 (04:58):
Right, he's chilling.
He's gonna wake up shortlythough.

SPEAKER_00 (05:01):
That's really that's really all I've been doing, bro.
Just training.
Just training him, teaching himhow to use the farm correctly,
um, how to unload one properly,you know, the safety, safety of
of uh uh of guns and everything.
Teaching him how to uh whatelse?

SPEAKER_05 (05:18):
Um how to answer the door.

SPEAKER_00 (05:20):
How to answer the dog door, you know.
When somebody when somebodyknocks, you gotta go there and
bite them.
Um whatever.
Just you know, just good shitlike that.

SPEAKER_05 (05:27):
You know, he's working his way up to do the
taxes, but we still not.

SPEAKER_00 (05:29):
We still, you know, once I start doing them, you
know, that's when he'll no, butuh no, just really just been
that's it, really.

SPEAKER_02 (05:38):
Oh, for real.

SPEAKER_00 (05:39):
It feels it feels like having I mean obviously
it's not, but it just feels likehaving a a little kid, bro.
That man just he's so curious.
He's more curious than them.
They were they weren't that umlike yeah, they were curious,
but not like they just likethey're more chill.
He's actually he wants to knowhow he used to be he used to be
curious, really.
He used to be curious abouteverything.

(06:00):
Um so far, let me not say thatbecause if I say I feel like I'm
a uh jinx it.
I'm a jinx it, yeah.
So I'm not gonna say what I wasgonna say.
But yeah, he's he's been reallyhe's been really really cool.
He's he's learning how to get onthe couch now, finally.
Oh, for real.
He used to cry to get on thecouch now.
He can get on by himself.

SPEAKER_03 (06:16):
Bruh, his sister wants to get on the couch all
the time, bro.
So for real.
No.
How'd they been?
How it feels having all of them?
Yeah, we got all of them, bro.
Ain't nobody want them, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (06:27):
I know.
We got all of them.
Fucking six, five dogs now.
Oh man.
But they're doing good, youknow.
I gotta clean up their poopevery day and all that stuff,
and then feed them, and thenit's just it's just a lot.
Then I close the gate and letthem run outside in the yard.

SPEAKER_00 (06:44):
Yeah, I figured, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (06:46):
But they destroy everything.

SPEAKER_00 (06:47):
Yeah, that's uh if I would leave stuff around, he'll
destroy it.
She'll destroy it.
Um today.
I thought I'd leave him nothingto destroy, but he found
something to destroy.
They always do.
Yeah, I was like, I was likebefore I left, I was like,
alright, there's there's nothinghere.
And left and then came back, andI was like, I I should have I

(07:08):
should have expected that.
He ripped up the P Pap.
Luckily, no P on it.
My flux capacitor, no.

SPEAKER_05 (07:16):
But what were we saying though?

SPEAKER_00 (07:18):
Uh nothing, just he he's just he really hasn't been
I wouldn't say a handful.
He's been really good, honestly,on listening and doing doing
pretty good.
Um the pea pads, he don't he Idon't think he ever gonna
understand the concept of a Ppad.
He gets up to it, doesn't pee onthe P pad.
He peeps beside it.

(07:38):
He peeps beside it.
Like I'm just like, yeah, thisis this is this is pointless.

SPEAKER_02 (07:42):
Yeah, it's it's past that stage, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00 (07:44):
Yeah, I was like, yeah, this is this isn't uh
we're not gonna fix this.
I just but it's just when Ileave him out.
Uh well leave him here and thenI go I'll go out.
But um apart from that, he he behe'd be pretty good.
That that's really it.
That's it look too crazy.
I just gotta clean up basicallythe same thing.
Every day I get here, I gottaclean up chill, bro.

(08:07):
Santa Claus is a good thing.
Santa Claus is at you, SantaClaus.
I just heard something because Igot a bone to pick with you.

SPEAKER_05 (08:16):
Let me tell you about some bullshit the school
did to me.

SPEAKER_00 (08:19):
Go ahead, bro.
Tell tell them what the fuck isgoing on in school, bro.
Tell them, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (08:23):
Oh no, no.
I meant like from school when Iwas in elementary.
Oh from when the teacher pulledme to the side and said, You can
win, you can ask for anything.
You can ask for anything youwant.

SPEAKER_00 (08:32):
They didn't even get me.

SPEAKER_03 (08:33):
They they tried, but they couldn't.
School's gonna buy it, is whatthey said.

SPEAKER_00 (08:37):
School got you, school got you, little as a bro.

SPEAKER_05 (08:40):
So I said, Yeah, let me get that PlayStation 5.

SPEAKER_00 (08:42):
Dang, PlayStation 3.
Go in the future, build the timemachine.

SPEAKER_05 (08:48):
Xbox 720 and give me a 50-90.
I want this figure.
No, I just like um they're told,like, they told us they're like,
ask for what you want.
And me being me, uh, a man thatthinks beyond right, right,
really, right, in the future.
That's why I asked for the file.
I'm still waiting.

(09:08):
No, but um I told I asked themfor the PlayStation 3 and the
Xbox 360.

SPEAKER_03 (09:15):
That boy asked for two times that too.

SPEAKER_00 (09:17):
And cool, what was that back in the day?

SPEAKER_05 (09:19):
Like a million dollars.
Like a million dollars.
It felt like to the in today'seconomy is like a million
dollars.

SPEAKER_00 (09:24):
But he asked for, he ain't asked for one.
He he asked for two different.

SPEAKER_05 (09:29):
I ain't even ask for much.
Really?

SPEAKER_00 (09:31):
If you think about it, it really ain't much.
It really ain't much.
Because really, what they couldhave done.

SPEAKER_05 (09:35):
Look, compare me to today's children.

SPEAKER_00 (09:37):
Asking for asking for what?
What the fuck?
Kids be asking for.

SPEAKER_05 (09:40):
AP on the wrist, buzz down.
Richie Mill.
Richie Mill.

SPEAKER_00 (09:44):
Uh Urs.
Urs?
What else?
What else?
100K.
100k.
A small 100K.

SPEAKER_05 (09:52):
Uh a lap dance from ice spice is what they be
saying.

SPEAKER_00 (09:57):
See, they be looking at it.
I'll be asking for the samething.

SPEAKER_03 (09:59):
They be asking for too much, bro.
They be asking for too much.
Too much, not enough.
Not enough.
Not today's economy.
Y'all don't got it.
Y'all don't got enough ambition.
You need to be asking for more.
I want the world.

SPEAKER_00 (10:11):
That has to do everything in it.
In today's economy, I feel likean old dude saying this and
that.
In today's economy, can't evenbe asking for all that.
Can't even be asking for allthat, man.

SPEAKER_05 (10:20):
Don't even think about it.
Don't even ask it.
You're already asking for twomore.

SPEAKER_00 (10:23):
Christmas suggestion though at this point right now.
It's just an if.

SPEAKER_05 (10:29):
Christmas looking like a firm right now.
Christmas looking like a$300payment every two weeks.

SPEAKER_00 (10:45):
You know, uh, Clarner is going, you see that?
That they're going bankrupt.
They're they're they're Tom.
Uh damn, damn stutter much.
They're thinking about going uhbankrupt.
Uh-huh.
They're filing for bankruptcy.
Dang.
And everybody on that was like,hey, don't do that.
Motherfuckers talking about.
I got lunch off Clarner.
Like, I got 20.
I got I got my uh Chipotleburrito off Clark.

(11:07):
It's like we cannot, y'allcannot be doing this.
Y'all need to pay them bills.
It's like somebody ain't paying,we gonna find them.
We gonna take care of them.
Do not go bankrupt.
I gotta, and everybody talkingabout I got a whole living room
set off Clara.
I better pay y'all fuckingbills.
I ain't loosen this.
Bro, I can't hey, I can't blamethem, bro.

(11:29):
I saw the owner shit online onetime, but that they probably
telling me I can get all thisfor 15 decent payments of$18.99.
Girl, don't tell me.
I was the only that fucked thedog.

SPEAKER_03 (11:42):
I was already probably, yeah, they get they
never getting they money.
They never getting this.
I'm gonna give them my oldaddress.

SPEAKER_05 (11:47):
I'm gonna tell them I live there.
I'm gonna tell I'm gonna changemy name.
I've been sitting all day, bro.

SPEAKER_00 (11:52):
Oh you go ahead, but we do this standing up, bro.
We do this standing up.
We walk around.
We live streaming like that, butI'll bring the camera.
I'll bring the camera aroundlike that, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (12:00):
We're gonna do it like uh what you call it?

SPEAKER_00 (12:02):
Uh stand-up.
Go ahead, bro.
Go ahead.
Let out your grievances, bro.
Go ahead, bro.

SPEAKER_06 (12:09):
Just instantly just start screaming, man.
Start screaming like I'm goingsuper sane.

SPEAKER_00 (12:16):
Hey, but that we say that we say that's what you need
to do when you're too stressedout.

SPEAKER_05 (12:19):
That's how you need to just I do that, but the
police gonna come knocking thewheels.
I'm gonna be like that girl.
I decided to do the thing whereyou go in the woods and scream.
Oh, you see that scream in thenetwork.

SPEAKER_00 (12:33):
Which one have you seen though?
Because now I seen two thatleads me to believe one of them
is fake.

SPEAKER_05 (12:39):
I don't know.
I seen the one where some girl,I don't know what she was
wearing, but some dude literallycame from behind a tree.

SPEAKER_00 (12:45):
Was it like a was it like a white lady or Asian lady?
White lady.
What lady?
Okay, I think I think that maybe the original one.
Because then like maybe like aweek after I seen like an Asian
lady do the same thing.
So same dude.
Same same dude.
I can't take a shit.

SPEAKER_05 (12:59):
Does a bear sit in the woods?
No, but a man does.
A man wearing an orange coatdoes.

SPEAKER_00 (13:06):
No, I'll um it it was it it that one looked more
staged.
It looked a little bit more likelike rehearsed or something.
You know, you can try to tell.
But I feel like the first onethat was more like some Jesse
shit.
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
I feel like it was moreauthentic.
The first one was moreauthentic.
Maybe it could have been set uptoo, but at least it did it.
Uh it just it just felt better.
It just looked better.

SPEAKER_05 (13:28):
Yeah, bro.
I've just been hanging in there,bro.
I'll get through it.

SPEAKER_00 (13:32):
You will believe in you.

SPEAKER_05 (13:33):
I just got make it till December 11th.
That's when the last day of myclass is, and I'm dropping out.

SPEAKER_00 (13:38):
Touch it.
Touch it.
I really just went for it.
Give it up for the four thereyou go.
That's the goal.

SPEAKER_06 (13:45):
Who the fuck's laughing at me?

SPEAKER_00 (13:48):
That's a goal right there.
That's hey, that's how you doit.
Think about this though.
Now you about to be up in the 1%though.
Cause every billionaire hasdropped out of dropped out of
high uh college.
Not high school.
Graduate, motherfucker.
But college, drop out ofcollege, drop out of the garage.
I need a garage.

SPEAKER_05 (14:05):
All great things come from garage.

SPEAKER_00 (14:06):
All great things come from garage, bro.
Fuck it, bro.
Just build a garage, bro.
It don't even matter, bro.
Don't have shit in there, bro.
Just it's the illusion of thegarage.
That's what it is.
It's not, it's not, it's not thephysical garage.
It's the illusion.
It's the thought of having agarage.
I ain't never seen the garage.
That's that's what you feel me.

(14:27):
You feel never never never had agarage in my life.
You feel me?
That's I don't even know what agarage is.
You need a garage.
You need a garage to get aheadof life.

SPEAKER_05 (14:38):
Really, this is some words of inspiration.

SPEAKER_00 (14:40):
Just put some just put some two by fours and some
pipes together.
Let it sit there in your garageand be like, that that's an X,
that's the Xbox 720 right there.
Just think about that.
That's how you start, and that'show you start.

SPEAKER_05 (14:52):
Yeah, Jay done lost it.

SPEAKER_00 (14:54):
That's how you start.

SPEAKER_05 (14:56):
Who gives me this crazy advice?
Bro, for free.
I'm gonna tell you.
All right, let me let y'all dropan advice.
Let me give y'all some advice.
For all the straight dudes outthere.
Alright.
For the if only straight dudescan hear the I mean, hold on,
Wait.
Let me let me how's the joke go?
Hold on.
How's it go?
Joke's so far, you already knowit's coming.

SPEAKER_06 (15:17):
Advice for straight dudes.
If you can't hear the advice,you're gay.

SPEAKER_00 (15:23):
Mmm, mmm, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
That's right.
Why then I think about that?
But I don't know what y'allthink though.
I'm down with that.
I fuck with that.
I fucked with that.
With what you say, I fuck withwhat you're saying.
When I really said fully heardand understand what you said.
When I really said, yeah.

(15:50):
I like the part.
I like the part where you saidyou at least gotta suck it dick
a day.
I like that part.
Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_06 (15:58):
Rewind the tape.
I literally said.

SPEAKER_02 (16:04):
Well, yeah, bro.
Nah, I just been chilling, bro.
That's that's pretty much it,bro.

SPEAKER_00 (16:08):
Damn, bro.
But at least at least you stillat least you still hanging on.
At least you haven't gone fullcrazy, bro.
That that's what matters, bro.
Whoa.
Well, never mind.
Because some of the greatestminds go crazy.
Go crazy.
Because that's that's the thegreatness of their mind.
Their mind is so great that thebrain can't comprehend.

SPEAKER_05 (16:31):
That the the brain wants to escape the garage.
The brain, the body is thegarage for the that's deep.

SPEAKER_00 (16:40):
That's deep, really.

SPEAKER_05 (16:41):
Y'all think about that for a sec.
Let it soak in.

SPEAKER_00 (16:43):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 (16:44):
Let it marinate.
What y'all think?

SPEAKER_00 (16:47):
Put that on the grid.
Flip it only three times.

SPEAKER_05 (16:51):
Not two times, because you're gonna mess up
this here.

SPEAKER_00 (16:54):
Three times.

SPEAKER_05 (16:56):
But um enough about that.
Let's go ahead and get to thesubject, bro.
Alright, bro.
You gotta let these people knowwhat this topic is about.
This topic ain't.
Oh, before, before, sorry, man.

SPEAKER_03 (17:06):
Go ahead, bro.
Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 (17:07):
Before we start, look, I know y'all are itching
for Cosmic Cove to let y'allknow about the whole lost
colony.
I know y'all itching for us totell you about the time skips.
Next episode.

SPEAKER_00 (17:20):
Let me tell you what happened.
Let me tell you what happened.
Today I was.
So they all just brainstormingthe room.
I was like, I know we talkedabout stuff.
I don't remember.
I don't remember.

SPEAKER_05 (17:31):
I listened to the episode and just forgot.

SPEAKER_00 (17:34):
I just, I literally like I had just caught up.
I I had just finished like acouple days.
Nah, it was like a week.
Nah, never mind.
It was like a week before.
Forgot it already.
I forgot it.
The moment somebody tells metheir name, instantly forget.
Instantly forget.
So this was just another name inmy brain.
And uh I told Reverence, yeah, Igot these things.
What do you think?

(17:54):
And then Reverence told me whatit was, and I was like, fuck.
What am I gonna do with theseresearch?
With these hours is crazy.
Minutes of research.

SPEAKER_05 (18:09):
Oh shit.
He's not lying, y'all.
I can't blame him.
You got it's all aboutproficiency.
You don't gotta worry about alldetails and everything.
It's all about push pushing thenumbers, really.

SPEAKER_00 (18:21):
Really?
That's all it is.
The more I see on my page, themore I know I did.
It's just the more I know Iasked properly.
How accurate did I ask Jat CPTto answer these questions for
me?
And that's all it's all dependson how many how many notes I
have, really.

(18:42):
Did I word the questioncorrectly?
Was my prompt correct?
Was my prompt correct?
But now, my fault, my fault.
Alright, so this one let thepeople know what the topics is,
yeah.
So the first one we're gonna betalking about a little
skeptical, a little serious, alittle intriguing, is the third
man syndrome.

(19:03):
What is it, you may ask?

SPEAKER_04 (19:04):
What is it, yeah?

SPEAKER_00 (19:06):
Well, I'm not really sure.
Alright.
Uh, do you want me to start?

SPEAKER_02 (19:11):
Yeah, you got it right here.

SPEAKER_00 (19:13):
So the third man syndrome is a phenomenon of
feeling feeling a comfort,comforting, unseen presence
during an extreme crisis orlife-threatening situation, even
when physically alone.
This third man providesencouragement, guidance, or even
intervenes to help theindividual survive, and is
sometimes described as a spirit,guardian, or even a familiar

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figure.
While spiritual or supernaturalexplanation is common,
psychological interpretationsuggests it's a survival
mechanism, perhaps ahallucination or manifestation
of the brain's creative capacityunder extreme stress and
isolation.
So some of the details with thewith the presence.
Oh, you heard a little whistle.

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Survivors describe feelinganother person's presence that
is not physically there.
So it's so 100% there's nobodythere.
And this can happen not justbeing alone, not just you by
yourself, but it can happen ifyou have uh maybe two or three
other people, you will stillcount someone else that's
actually in the group.
Um so it can be a vague feelingof warmth, uh, it can also be a

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voice or an actual figure oreven a specific form that
resembles a deceased loved oneor another helpful entity.
Um so it offers this presenceoffers emotional and physical
support.
Uh it also provides practicaladvice in some cases and
instills a sense of hope and thewill to survive when facing

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seemingly impossible odds.
So this has been reported byexplorers, climbers, soldiers,
accident victims, astronauts,and survivors, survivors of
other extreme events like beingtrapped in a collapsing building
or lost at sea.

SPEAKER_05 (21:00):
The how do you feel about the third-person syndrome?
Oh shit, what was that?

SPEAKER_00 (21:03):
I think I I'm not sure what it is.
My fault, but I'm a bad day.
I don't know what that's outnow, huh?
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (21:12):
Um What are your thoughts on it real quick before
we dive the right?

SPEAKER_00 (21:16):
Oh I want to say, I've I've heard I've I've seen
other cases where like aperson's got in that car
accident And they were likefading in and out of
consciousness, and someone elseuh uh they said that someone was
telling them like like don't goyet.
Like, so I already called likethe I already called like the

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officer, someone's gonna be herefor you right quick, and like
they'll notice the person, butthen like when they start
talking to paramedics, like hey,I'm gonna thank that person's
done like they'd be like, no,nobody was here.
Like we somebody always calledus, and then we ended up showing
here.
Um so um I know I want to sayI've I've I've sort of

(21:59):
experienced that, but I I'm notreally sure.
Oh, you experienced that?
I want to say, but I can'tremember.
Like, I can't it ain't it's likea faint, it's like a faint
memory.
So I don't know if I'm just I'llI'll have to ask my mom on that.
I forgot I ain't see her today,so um, but um uh I don't know.
I think it's I think it's just asurvival instinct.

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Like it's just it's just yourbody trying to maintain because
the body does the brain, it'sthe brain is just the brain,
it's a bunch of crazy shit,bruh.
So I think it's copingeverything.
Yeah, I think it's just yourbrain just you try and tell the
body to survive.
Like just survive, you justsurvive, just survive, and like
I guess like you hallucinate orwhatever.

(22:40):
So um it just I guess it justkicks off something in your
brain or something to just justto make you stay, stay alive or
whatever, whatever, whateveryou're going through.
But um, that's that's what Ithink.

SPEAKER_05 (22:52):
I agree too.
I agree with that theory withthe whole scientific thing.
I mean, I'm not gonna push thewhole spiritual thing because
you know you never know whatcould be possible out there and
everything like that, but it isnice to think that there is a
explanation behind it both ways,like scientific and spiritual.

SPEAKER_00 (23:11):
Spiritual.
Yeah, I feel like if it'sspiritual, I feel like that
maybe could be like yourguardian angel or something,
something of that degree.
Um that's just spiritual, but Istill think it it like it's just
brain.

SPEAKER_05 (23:23):
It's it's actually a really good thing because I
mean, think about it.
You have your legs broken,you're in an accident, you
you're pretty much giving up.
Your brain's not giving up.
Yeah, I will give up, yeah.
Yeah, but your brain's notgiving up.
So what it does is it makes thatperson, obviously, like what the
thing says, it makes somebodyappear.
But real, well, if it's like thescientific route, like your

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brain's like, all right, he'sgood, he's about to give up, but
what if we show him thatsomebody's here with them?
Then he's gonna be more likelyto try to hang in there or
something.

SPEAKER_00 (23:51):
Maybe or some shit.
That's what I'm thinking.
Because to what I was thinkingabout is like when I come on
when I was little.
That this is where I I think myparents were saying that I was
talking to somebody.
Like telling that, like, like,like telling, like, they were
telling me like just to hang on.
But that's what I don't I don'tremember exactly.
But it was it was somethingaround the line.
So that it it it was either thator I was just going dilutional

(24:13):
from all the bloodlusts.
What one of the two.
It was one of the two.
That ass, it was just one of thetwo.

SPEAKER_05 (24:17):
I said, That ass, but it was one of the two.

SPEAKER_00 (24:20):
But um, but I feel like it could just be your uh, I
think it's just your your justlast emergency type, like just
survival type shit.
But um, but yeah, that's that'swhat I think.
That's what I think about that.

SPEAKER_05 (24:36):
Yeah, that's the same thing I think too, bro.
I mean, real quick, there's likea guy I work with, there's like
a little quick story.

SPEAKER_00 (24:43):
Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 (24:44):
The guy I worked with, his brother had gotten
into a wreck right down the roadfrom where they live.
And this is before there hadlike a bunch of houses in that
area.
It was like all country.
There's like a couple houses,but nobody really went down that
road or whatever.
Separated house, yeah.
Yeah, it was like far away, likenot much traffic or whatever.
And um he had flipped thevehicle.

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I don't remember if it was atruck or whatever, but he had
flipped it, and I think he endedup like getting out of the
vehicle, and he was like allbanged up pretty bad.
And some car comes like down theroad out of nowhere, and it's a
lady, like old white lady, she'slike has a white dress, has like
gray hair or white hair,whatever, and she like comforts

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him and helps him, and then hemanages to get home, but they
could never figure out who thatlady was because they knew
everybody like around that areaor whatever.
I mean, obviously, cars comethrough the roads and
everything, but for it to be atthat spot at that time, for
according to him, it's likereally unlikely, and they could
never figure out who she was orand the stories, the stories out

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of her has been always uh it'salways it's been someone in like
in like in white.

SPEAKER_00 (25:55):
It's always been someone like it's if it's not if
it's not like a dress, it's beenlike uh he had like a white
t-shirt or like he had like uhhe had like a white suit, stuff,
stuff like that.
It's always been someone inwhite when they when uh of the
stories it but those are juststories I've heard for the car
crashes where it's someone elsethat where they think it's
somebody else that uh helpedthem that helped them, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (26:16):
Alright.

SPEAKER_05 (26:16):
So I have one of the earliest accounts about the
third man syndrome.
So the third the term third mansyndrome gained prominence
through the experiences of SirErnest Shackleton and his crew
during the 1914 to 1917 ImperialTransantarctic Expedition.
After their ship, the endurance,uh, was trapped and eventually

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crushed by packed ice.
Shackleton and his men embarkedon a uh rough journey, like a
rough hike or whatever you wantto say.
Um they had to go like acrossthe Arctic ice to reach safety.
So during this grueling trek,Shackleton reported feeling the
presence of an unseen companion,stating, It seemed to me that we

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were four, not three.
This sensation was shared by hiscompanions, Tom Crean, Frank
Worsley, who later revealed theyhad the same like same
experiences and whatnot.
And uh Shackleton's account inhis 1919 book, South, is among
the earliest recorded instancesof the third man syndrome.

SPEAKER_00 (27:21):
I didn't really get much details about like what the
person did or like um if Iremember correctly, because I I
I I found his I had his notestoo.
Um I think he they were likethey would do head counts and it
would be like four.
And then they could sometimessee him on like on the corner of
the eye.
But they it's just like they sayit felt like it would just they

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had a feeling of like keeppushing, keep pushing through,
through like through everythingthey were going through.
Um it's not really nothing Idon't think they get like an
actual interaction or anything.
Like when in that type ofsituation, don't get like an
actual, like, you know, wherelike on the car crashes when
people uh um say they seesomeone or they talk to them.
It's not really so much as it'stalking, but it's just like as a

(28:05):
feeling of uh of pushing throughon that one.
But I got I got another one.
Um it was actually a story fromfrom uh Ernest's book.
From his book.
So um uh so there was hisBritish explorer Frank Smith,
who almost became the firstperson to summon Mount Everest

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in uh uh 1933, along with hisclimate party, Smith made the
intense journey towards thesummit in poor conditions, but
his party soon turned back afterterrible weather and lack of
oxygen, made the summit animpossible task.
Smith continued, determined tocomplete the summit, but
narrowly missed it by 304meters.

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Uh while Smith was completelyalone, this isn't how he
remembered it, all the time, ohthis is quote, all the time that
I was climbing alone, I had astrong feeling that I was
accompanied by a second person.
The feeling was so strong thatit completely eliminated all
loneliness I might otherwisehave felt.
Uh at one point Smith was soconvinced of his imaginary God

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that he tried to share somecandle uh mint cake with with
him, but upon turning aroundrealized that there was no one
there with him.
So that's another that's anotherlocation.
Yeah, he uh that that last partis what gets me.
Because it's like he actuallylike you know, you so just you
have the feeling someone beingthere, you know, that presence

(29:27):
of someone being there, youknow, you're in the middle of
nowhere, and you turn around andgive them give him a piece of
your cake, and there's nobodythere.

SPEAKER_05 (29:35):
No, I agree, bro.
And then the fact that you wereable to like have a conversation
with them or whatever, it's justuh I don't know if he had a
conversation with him.
I thought you said he triedgiving them the piece.

SPEAKER_00 (29:46):
Oh, he just tried giving him the piece.
Oh, he just turned around.
That he just turned around,yeah.
He just turned around like tohand it to him and then like he
was like, Oh, that's right, likethere's like there's nobody
there, so he was like, Oh.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (29:58):
Yeah, okay, I'm with you now.
So So I got another one.
This is Ron DiFrancesco.
I think that's how you say it.
It was a Canadian financialexecutive.
Okay.
He was the last known person toescape the South Tower of the
World Trade Center.

SPEAKER_00 (30:12):
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (30:13):
September 11, 2001.
At the time he was working asthe vice president at
Eurobrokers, a brokerage firmlocated on the 84th floor.

SPEAKER_00 (30:22):
Oh, shit, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (30:23):
Keep in mind, 84th floor, the tower is coming down.
Bro, like you can't take anelevator.
84 flights of steps, bro.
Gotta gotta just clear each one,bro.

SPEAKER_00 (30:35):
Fuck it, just jump down the middle.
I was about to say I'll jumpdown the middle, bro.
Just catch myself on the lastone.
That's how you let me fall down.
I'm gonna reach for that shit.
My arms go.

SPEAKER_06 (30:45):
Velocity is afraid of this man.

SPEAKER_00 (30:48):
Velocity is afraid.
You're gonna find my body withno arms.
Boking kneecaps, no arms.
Oh.

SPEAKER_05 (30:58):
Um so on the morning of September 11th, uh
DeFrancesco was located was athis desk when United Airlines
flight 175 struck the SouthTower.
Initially, he and his colleagueswere uncertain about the
severity of the situation.
However, as the building beganto shake and smoke filled, as

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the building began to shake andsmoke filled the air, they
realized the gravity of theattack.
Like, can you imagine where youjust see the airplane boom?

SPEAKER_00 (31:27):
That that was that was crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (31:30):
Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 (31:32):
That looked like I wouldn't know where when my
brain I don't know, bruh.
I don't know where my brainwould be at that moment, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (31:40):
Right.
Just I can't imagine, bro.
Like, I cannot imagine what itwas.

SPEAKER_00 (31:45):
Just seeing that, bro.
I'm like, what the fuck?
What the what do I do?
I should have stayed home andplayed the Xbox.
God damn.

SPEAKER_05 (31:51):
That but it's it's scary, bro, because you know
some people just had the theyjust came to terms with and just
jumped out, bro.
Yeah, that was scary.
That is insane.
Like, rest in peace to all thepeople that were affected by it,
bro.
But the fact that your brain waslike, well, not probably not the
brain, but them, they were like,I need to get out.

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This is the only way I can doit.
It just shows like the human themind of the person I got.

SPEAKER_00 (32:17):
I know someone that uh they're from New York and
they will walk like really bylike literally by the track by
the uh Twin Towers every morningand go to school.
And that day that that happened,they took another route because
their mom, they were runninglate or something.
And so they will walk, they willwalk to school, but since they
were running late, uh, I guessthey went through the I don't I

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I think it's a tax or somethingthey took.
So they went like a completelydifferent way.
But that was a day that soaccording to them, they would
have been walking when that whenthe attacks like they would have
been right underneath it whenthe attacks happened.
Damn.
But for some reason, that day,you know, they were just running
late and they ended up.
So maybe that would have notmade that would have been part

(33:01):
of the um something might havehappened to them, you know.
But who knows?
But I'm I'm I was just it'scrazy that that's the day that
they didn't uh take that route.

SPEAKER_05 (33:09):
What's crazy is that one actor that's actually a
firefighter during that time,what's his name that Bushini
dude?
What's his name?

SPEAKER_00 (33:15):
Oh uh Joe Buscemi?

SPEAKER_05 (33:17):
Is that his name?

SPEAKER_00 (33:18):
I think so.

SPEAKER_05 (33:19):
That dude that be on the Adam Saturn movies.

SPEAKER_00 (33:21):
That dude, yeah, yeah, that dude, yeah.
That funky looking dude with hiseyeballs.
Let me see.

SPEAKER_05 (33:24):
It might not be that first name correct, but yeah,
let's let's but he was afirefighter during that time,
bro.

SPEAKER_00 (33:30):
Oh, during the time?
Uh-huh.
Steve, Steve Buscemi.

SPEAKER_05 (33:33):
Yeah, that's his name.

SPEAKER_00 (33:34):
Yeah, Steve.
I said Joe.

SPEAKER_05 (33:35):
That is insane.
Oh, so he was a firefighterduring that time.
Oh, they have pictures of himlike he was there and
everything.
If I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_00 (33:42):
Oh shit, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (33:44):
Right, but um, no, like like I was saying though,
back to the third man syndrome.
So this dude told like the planehit the tower and everything,
and I guess his brain finallyresponded, like, it's time to
get out of here.
So he attempted to evacuate bytaking the stairwell.
Obviously, that's all you cando, really.

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As he descended, he encountereda wall of fire and smoke,
forcing him to retreat.
He then decided to continue hisdescent, ultimately becoming the
last person to exit the buildingbefore it collapsed at 9 59 a.m.
During his experience, theFrancesco experienced what is
known as the third man syndrome,a phenomenon where individuals

(34:26):
like experience, like we said,person seeing someone or having
someone tell them what to do.
So he said he described thefeeling as though he was being
led down the stairwell.

SPEAKER_00 (34:38):
Oh shit, okay.
Instead of being behind thetypes of oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (34:45):
So he eventually made it down and he um he was
hospitalized with severe burnsand head laceration.
He spent several days in a ummedically induced coma.
His doctors worked to stabilizehis condition, and despite the
physical and emotional scores,he eventually recovered and
returned to his life in Toronto.

(35:08):
But in the following years afterattack, then Francesco became
like an advocate for likeresilience and mindfulness.
Uh he just began talking aboutlike uh um how to overcome like
challenges and how to helpprepare your mind for the stuff.
Oh, okay, okay, for like stuffthat happens, just rather stuff
that happens over.
How to help better yourmentality to like comprehend

(35:30):
situations and do stuff likethat or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 (35:33):
But if I'm not mistaken, he said um he had said
something about the personpretty like he heard a voice or
something like that.

SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
Oh, telling him like Yeah.
Um that's crazy.
Just like feeling like you'rebeing like led, led down the
stairs.
Oh, man, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (35:53):
Oh, yeah, here it is.
Um as he navigated through thesmoke-filled corridors, he heard
a voice urging him to keepmoving.
The voice guiding him to safely,and he later attributed his
survival to the third man's.
Oh shit, okay, okay.
So it was like a voice like, go,just keep going.
And like we said, people havethat thing that just tells them
to keep going, keep going.

SPEAKER_00 (36:12):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (36:13):
That is insane right there.

SPEAKER_00 (36:15):
Oh, right.
That's crazy.
To have that feeling.
Oh, but to have that feeling.

SPEAKER_05 (36:18):
Yeah, I can't imagine.
But I mean, it's I can see thebrain telling them to like keep
going.

SPEAKER_00 (36:25):
Right.
I mean, yeah, I mean, if youthink about it, it is just a
brain, but or it could have beenhis guardian angel, who knows?
But but nah, that that doesdope.
All right, I got another one,uh, a little small one right
here.
This is Charles Lindbergh.
So during his solo flight,described observing ghostly
figures and hearing voices,providing a sense of not being

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alone.
During his historic 1927 solotranslat transatlantic flight
while flying alone, Lindberghsensed the presence of a
helpful, unseen third man in thespirit of sound of St.
Louis, who offered him comfortand advice on navigation,
appearing as a transparent,human-like figure that

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ultimately guided him to landsafely.
So he actually saw I guess hesaw a transparent human-like
figure.
So he was flying?
Yeah, he was flying.
So this was after 22 hours.
Um uh so okay, so so he wasexhausted and facing extreme
conditions, including icebuildup and fog.

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And this was after after 22hours, he became aware of a
presence on board described as atransparent figure with human
outlines.
Um so yeah, it's just he justkept telling him, like just
basically giving him telling himkind of what to do, guiding him
in a sense, and telling him thathe could uh he could make it.
Um uh shit, I lost my okay.

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Just reassurance andnavigational advice.
And so he just he felt like hejust wasn't alone up there no
more.
Um and then the unseen pressesremained with him until he
spotted the Irish coast near theend of his flight.
That's when that's when hedisappeared.
Um so what I did find was alsothat the leading theory suggests

(38:15):
that it is a survival mechanism,a product of brain's creative
functions taking over duringextreme stress, exhaustion, or
sensory deprivation.
Um, you ever experienced sensorydeprivation?

SPEAKER_05 (38:26):
It was what?

SPEAKER_00 (38:27):
Like you ever experienced sensory deprivation?

SPEAKER_05 (38:30):
Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 (38:31):
You haven't?
Okay, so uh you know that roomthat basically it's so quiet
that you can hear yourself.
So there's supposedly from itbeing so quiet, you start
hallucinating, you start hearingstuff that's not even you can't
even hear it.
And there's another thing whereI don't know if you've seen

(38:51):
people that go into like this uhinto this pod and they lay on
the water and it like oh it getsclouded.
The sensory pod, yeah.
So they apparently was likehallucinate or like see stuff
like that too.
So that's basically what in thesense was going on with them.
So that's what they're alsosaying that it could have just
been like not it could have beenthe third messenger, but they're
like this they're like what islike their analysis or whatever

(39:14):
they found, uh text or whatever,it's saying that it could have
just been a deprivation of allthe of its senses from
everything that was going on.

SPEAKER_05 (39:22):
It was them gremlins.
You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_00 (39:25):
They got wet?
The airplane was it's the moviewas called Gremlin, right?
Yeah, right.
Well, no, but there's like aterm that people Oh, you're
talking about the actual onesthat like you you remember in uh
the Bugs Bunny one?

SPEAKER_05 (39:38):
Yeah, where he had that gremlin though.
That's a gremlin.

SPEAKER_00 (39:40):
Yeah.
That's like essentially thething that are gremlins just for
airplanes, or or no, no, no.
Okay, but it is the gremlinsthat be they be saying that
they'd see on the plane or likethey'd be fucking up.
Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (39:50):
That's what they say, but it's more like a term
for like the planes messing up,and you know, it was the
gremlins that did it, notbecause of whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (39:58):
But I I don't know, it's it's just me being funny, I
guess.
But um, I don't know, bro.
Like, what do you what do youthink about the whole thing?

SPEAKER_00 (40:08):
I mean, I know we talked about it and everything,
but I it's it's it's aninteresting thing, it's an
interesting thing.
Uh I mean I can't say I can'tsay I wish to experience it.
Because I mean, every time youwish to experience it, I'm good.
You're in like the most crazysituations.
But I mean, fuck.
If I were if I were gonna playCrash Land, Crash Land in the

(40:30):
middle of a jungle, some shitlike that, and then survive.
I'll tell you if I had a thirdman experience, right now.
It was like the third man, well,but that we're chasing you, boy.
You gotta get out of it.

SPEAKER_05 (40:40):
Imagine, bro.
Like, imagine, because this islike dangerous situations that
you have to be in, but imagineyou're just going to be like
induced for surgery, and youjust see a man just standing
there.

SPEAKER_03 (40:51):
They've been case, they've been uh everything's
gonna be okay or something likethat.

SPEAKER_00 (40:55):
Nah, the worst part is it's not gonna be okay.
Right before you go in out.

SPEAKER_05 (40:59):
No, right before you're going out, you just hear
the doctor say, I can't believehe wants to do a sex check.

SPEAKER_00 (41:04):
Then you just what?
You best believe our gentlemanout that at that table.
You best believe.
The what?
Why would he want to get rid ofsuch a beautiful thing?
Fuck it.
I'll snip it off and get itwagging the fuck up.

SPEAKER_05 (41:24):
I mean, knockout right there.

SPEAKER_00 (41:27):
Right, bro.
Oh my god, my head, my head willexplode.

SPEAKER_03 (41:31):
I I would die on the table.

SPEAKER_05 (41:32):
I die on the table.
I hear that shit.
That's almost like out-of-bodyexperiences.
Like, you know, when people getlike in surgery and everything,
you know, they have themout-of-body experiences, like
uh, like lucid dreaming in asense.
Yeah, but they've said like theywere able to over like float
over to doctors and see.
See what they were, yeah.
What they were that is crazyright there.
That's a whole nother subject,though.
That's a whole that's anotherthat's hey, that's hey right

(41:55):
after the lost colony.
We'll get it to it.
Right after lost colony, we'llget it.

SPEAKER_00 (42:00):
We might have to push the lost colony back a
little bit.

SPEAKER_06 (42:02):
We just have to push the lost colony back.
We're still looking for him.

SPEAKER_00 (42:05):
We got our best man on the no, well, we find them.

SPEAKER_06 (42:09):
We'll tell you about that.

SPEAKER_00 (42:10):
We'll tell y'all about it.
Till then.

SPEAKER_03 (42:13):
Just like the lost treasure of El Dorado.

SPEAKER_05 (42:16):
We got y'all.
Is that what it was?
The lost treasure of El Dorado.

SPEAKER_03 (42:19):
You talking about the movie?
Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_05 (42:22):
I thought it was like a real thing.
Oh, was it a real thing?
I thought it was.
It's like that all that goldfrom Spain or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (42:29):
That they left over over yonder.
Is it a real thing?
You telling me this whole time,I could have been a treasure
hunter.
A vault hunter, if you will.
I thought it was a real thing.

SPEAKER_04 (42:45):
Oh no, it's it's not.

SPEAKER_00 (42:47):
It's not?

SPEAKER_04 (42:47):
Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 (42:48):
I was just about to start looking for it.
I'd have gone two two blocksover, turn the left, start a
day.

SPEAKER_05 (42:56):
I thought it was a real thing.
No, it's not though.
According to Google, it's not.
I thought there was like atreasure thing though.

SPEAKER_00 (43:02):
Google could be wrong.
You never I should use a realsource.
Wikipedia.

SPEAKER_05 (43:10):
But um, yeah, we'll talk about that on a different
subject though.
But y'all let us know what y'allthink.
Let us know if y'all have everhad any experiences with like
third man syndrome or if y'allhave any loved ones that ever
had something like this happento them or or anything like
that.
Y'all let us know.
Y'all message us at Cosmic Coveon K-O-S-M-I-C underscore
C-O-V-E on Instagram or TikTok.

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But let's go ahead and head offto the next subject.
Y'all already know what time itis.
It's time for that's right.
That's right.
That's right.

SPEAKER_07 (43:42):
Fear is it all in your mind, or could it be real?
Welcome to fear.
Fact or fiction.

SPEAKER_05 (43:50):
Really, I just be messing up on the noises to keep
you on your toes.
Because everybody's like, oh,he's just gonna play the noise.

SPEAKER_00 (43:56):
Yep.
I gotta do it.
Uh, you gotta expect theunexpected.
That's that's the only way inlife, really.

SPEAKER_05 (44:05):
I was gonna say, um, this topic was a good one
because I didn't think aboutlike I I kind of heard about it
before, but I never really putmuch thought into it.

SPEAKER_00 (44:15):
All right, I'll admit it.
I'm I'll tell you the way Ifound it.
Honestly, I don't know how Ifound it.
I have zero clues.

SPEAKER_05 (44:22):
I was just like, I just I already know what led to
your discovery, though.
Go ahead, tell them what it isfirst.

SPEAKER_00 (44:27):
Okay.
I mean I'm intrigued to knowyour answer.
Mongolian?
Oh, well, okay, let me do itprofessionally.
Today we're gonna be talkingabout the Mongolian death worm.

SPEAKER_05 (44:40):
The Mongoli roly-poly.
The Mongoli wiggly wormy.
They got acid.
All right.
Me, I thought you probably heardabout it because of watching
Tremors.

SPEAKER_00 (44:55):
Because that's essentially like that's
essentially like I thought aboutTremors after this.
I was like, wait, this is just afucking, this is just a fucking
grub.
What the fuck?
What do they call uh I thinkthey call them grubs, they got
their name, right?
They got like different names.
Okay, so okay, so the theoriginal, the first, the first
form, um, I think they just callit grub, and then when they go
into their second form, or isthat the girl?

(45:16):
I don't know, but I know thethird form when it's offline,
they call them ass blasters.
I don't even know if I rememberthat one.

SPEAKER_05 (45:21):
They done lost the whole plot of the story.
They done said, you know what,let's make another one.

SPEAKER_00 (45:26):
They should have that's one of those movies where
you had a the first one wasgood, the second one was
questionable.
Don't make a third one.
They got five.

SPEAKER_05 (45:34):
Is it five they have?

SPEAKER_00 (45:35):
It's five now, bro.
Tremors was such a good movie.
It was such a good movie, bro.
I mean, still is the first one.
Yeah, first one is still.
I might watch it tonight, ain'tgonna lie.
Just just for nostalgicpurposes, bro.
I had bought the whole trilogy.
I don't know what happened tothem.
Yeah, I bought it.

SPEAKER_05 (45:49):
Came out in 1990.
Rotten Tomatoes gave it an 88.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (45:54):
You know, finally, about finally, finally, because
that one we cover, that oneepisode where they used handed
out bad bad ratings for everygood movie.
Hey, I I ain't taking RottenTomatoes seriously, but they
gave it an 88.
So I might take it a littleseriously now.

SPEAKER_02 (46:07):
Wait, what?

SPEAKER_00 (46:08):
What happened?

SPEAKER_04 (46:09):
This shit said they have the ultimate collection.

SPEAKER_00 (46:12):
Seven movies plus TV plus TV series.
Oh, bro, I tried watching TVseries, bro.
It's just it's not good.
It's it's okay.
It's okay, but we would havecame out a couple years ago.
Like, not I'm talking about likein the early 2000s, it would
have hit, but it came out likein I don't know, bro, but it's

(46:34):
it's they just be dragging itlow-key.

SPEAKER_04 (46:36):
Sorry, I had a text message real quick.

SPEAKER_05 (46:38):
But um, yeah, when you said it, like I said, it
instantly reminded me of thedeath.
I mean the tremors.
Yeah.
Because I didn't, I mean, like Isaid, I kind of knew what it
was, but I was like, bro, whateven is this?

SPEAKER_00 (46:50):
I I I don't I don't remember exactly how I came up
with it.
Like um, usually when I when youjust find a like a cryptic, I
got this app, it just shows allthe cryptic.
Oh shit.
But you just pick a rich region,you just put a map on the wall,
get it dark.
Ooh, Loki.
Nah, whatever you just be doing,nah, they got uh they got this
thing I was I was gonna tell youto cover, but uh they ain't have
enough information.

(47:10):
It's called the Gucci.
The Gucci.
So today we're gonna be talkingabout the Gucci.
We're gonna be talking about theVolvo.
Um but no, that's it, it had oneof those.
I was gonna tell you that like acouple weeks ago, but I was
like, hold on, before I actuallysend this message.
I was like, hold on.
I looked up as it doesn't haveenough.
No, it doesn't have enough.
So um I will I want to say Ifound it through there, but I
didn't even click on the appthis time.

(47:32):
Um I really don't know where itcame from.
But I'm glad we covered it.
I'm glad we're gonna cover itactually.
My bad, I'm from the future.
Um uh well, that was a goodepisode.
I'm glad we talked about itearlier.
It's such a good episode.
Um, nah, I'm just playing.
So uh you you want me started?
Uh yeah, you gotta run.
All right, all right.
All right, so the MongolianDeathworm, or alright, bro.

(47:56):
All right, you got it.
So shit like that.
It sounds like that though.
That's it.

SPEAKER_03 (48:05):
Oh as you were saying, and I was reading it.
I'm gonna pull up shot it.

SPEAKER_00 (48:10):
You feel me?
Oh, I put a curse on her.
So it's uh it's a legendarycrypto.

SPEAKER_05 (48:19):
Over here sound like tota ain't get the roll, my we
ain't getting the road.

SPEAKER_00 (48:26):
Mouse that pleasure, bro.
Please, you the best, bro.
You the best, you the best, meboy, you boy, you girl.
Well, that dude's so funny, bro.
He's so funny, yeah.
Alright, so so let me do itagain.
The Olgo Kordagoi.
It's a legendary cryptic fromthe Gobi Desert, said to be a

(48:47):
large one meter, pretty averageme, red, sausage-shaped
creature.
Some sometimes depicted with aspike-like projections.
Um, legends claim it can kill.
Check this out by spinningcorrosive acid, discharging
electricity, or even through apoisonous touch, death worms
will reportly shoot up frombeneath the sand without warning

(49:11):
to kill its food.
Camels, uh, well, its foodconsists of camels and rodents,
but unaware humans can be preyas well.
Whole Pokemon.

SPEAKER_05 (49:20):
This thing sounds crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_00 (49:21):
It's it's a three-type Pokemon right there,
but it got it got poison damage,it got uh electricity, bro.
Electricity, it got groundattacks.
Uh she just she just be movingcrazy, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (49:35):
She just everything, bro.

SPEAKER_00 (49:36):
She just everything, bro.
It's like what a Diglet shouldbe.
Look, I'm gonna stand throughabout Digglet's man.

SPEAKER_05 (49:44):
There it's the bottom half of Diglet.
Big buff ass dude.
Um people worried about the sea,bro.
They need to worry about thatsand if they was out there.

SPEAKER_00 (49:58):
Fuck the sea, fuck the sea, bro.
We need to focus on all thissand.
Why is there so much sand?
And all that, why is there somuch sand?
What they gotta be somethinghiding in that sand.
Gotta be.
Something.
Something.
Y'all tell us though.
Y'all tell us, y'all do theresearch, y'all invoke in this

(50:19):
voyage, look at the notes, comeback to us and let us know.
And let us know.
All right, so many locals areconvinced of the existence of
these mysterious creatures.
Even the Mongolian primeminister Damden Bazar described
the death worm to a Westernexplorer in 1922.
Uh Czech cryptozoologist IvanMacrel is credited as being the

(50:43):
foremost investigator of thedeath worm.
He learned of the worm from astudent and made the trip to
South Mongolia in 1990 touncover more.
His investigations weredifficult.
As he found, many Mongolianswere loath or loath to speak of
the legendary beast, making itmore complicated.
Was an order by the Mongoliangovernment outlawing the

(51:04):
searches for the death worm.
Why?

SPEAKER_05 (51:07):
Why why am the whole government said, yeah, they out
there, but y'all can't go.

SPEAKER_00 (51:11):
Hey, they're trying to hide something.
If I know if I know government,they're trying to hide
something.
Eventually the band failed, andMac uh Mackerel was able to
search for answers.
In his book, I'm not trying togo ahead, bo.
Get that, get that girl to gocall his tribe.

SPEAKER_05 (51:34):
Umgoleski Jahadi.

SPEAKER_00 (51:38):
He said it.

SPEAKER_05 (51:39):
Jadi.

SPEAKER_00 (51:41):
C Sands, I know the language.
I'm gonna tell you what thattranslates to.
Mongolian mystery.
Magical Chronicle, the worm fromthis from secondhand reports.
The creature is described as asausage-like worm, over half a
meter long and thick as a man'sarm, resembling the intestine of
cattle.
Its skin serves as anexoskeleton, molting whenever

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hurt.
Its tail is short as if it werecut off, but not tapered.
It is difficult to tell if it'shead from its tail because it
has no visible eyes, nostrils,or mouth.
So apparently that was that wasa eyewitness testimony,
apparently.
So, but he never uh mackerelhimself never witnessed it.

(52:23):
Uh eventually Macro eventuallydetermined the the Olgo Cortiki
could be real.
Uh Lifesteign quotes Britishbiologist Dr.
Carl Shulker, author of the bookThe Unexplained.
Shoker describes the legendarybeast as one of the world's most
sensational creatures, concealedamid the scents of the southern

(52:45):
Gobi Desert.
Uh, it spends much of its timehidden beneath the desert sands,
but whenever one is spottedlying on the surface, it is
scrupulously avoided by thelocals.
So maybe that that's what leadsto some of the people not
talking about it, or like theyjust fear that much, you know.

SPEAKER_05 (53:04):
Um probably believe in that as long as you don't
talk about it, you ain't gottaworry about it.
I mean, sometimes that worksthough.
If you say its name three timeswhen you're bathroom looking at
yourself, it'll come out and getyou.
It'll come out the toilet andget you.
I warned y'all, I warned y'all,I warned y'all.

SPEAKER_03 (53:19):
Not me.
Um no.
Don't attack me while I'msitting on the toilet.

SPEAKER_05 (53:27):
I really hate for something to just get me when
I'm nice and vulnerable.

SPEAKER_06 (53:37):
What y'all do with that sound clap what you will.

SPEAKER_00 (53:44):
Say that said to my rington.
Although the creature isbelieved to remain mostly below
ground, sightings are said to bemore common in June and July.
Some say it will only come outwhen the ground surface is wet.
So think about that.
Only when the ground surface iswet.
What else comes up when theground surface is wet?

(54:04):
Worms.
Worms.
And it's the desert, it'll beraining all the time.

SPEAKER_05 (54:13):
Oh no, it's probably gonna really go for some water
right now.

SPEAKER_00 (54:15):
They're probably drowning to be and the camel.
And the camel.
What holds the most water?
Camels.

unknown (54:22):
Mmm.

SPEAKER_00 (54:24):
Humans are 70% water.

unknown (54:26):
Mmm.

SPEAKER_00 (54:28):
We yo.
Hey, yo, it's this man thinking.
His brain works.
Bro, somebody grabbed me a fullscholarship to go explore the
desert.

SPEAKER_06 (54:38):
You get there.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (54:43):
Well, enough of that.

SPEAKER_03 (54:45):
Tell them to get the rest of this money to go blow it
at the casino.

SPEAKER_00 (54:50):
I think that's reasonable person would do.

SPEAKER_05 (54:51):
Somebody who comes with the camera.
Yayo, yeah, yo.
We see that you're back fromyour adventure.
How did everything go?
No cameras, please.

unknown (54:57):
No cameras.

SPEAKER_00 (54:58):
Still got my full set up.
Uh Shulker himself neverreported whether they've seen
the Megolian death worm.
But hypothesis hypothesizes thatthe worm might be the
carnivorous Jesus, these words.
Amphi's Bainid.

(55:18):
I got this.
A limbless.
We're gonna move on.
A limbless burrowing lizard thatlives in warm climates.
Other researchers suggest thedescription loosely matched the
death adder, a member of thecobra snake family.
Or the death adder found inAustralia and New Guinea is
physically similar to the deathworm and is able to spit venom
several feet.

SPEAKER_02 (55:38):
Oh shit, that one is.

SPEAKER_00 (55:39):
Yeah.
According to these people,according to I know it could
spit venom.
Well, it's a follow the familyof the cobra.
So I mean it makes sense.
Um, do you want to keep going?

SPEAKER_04 (55:49):
Um you're still gonna talk about what they say
it might be?

SPEAKER_00 (55:53):
Uh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (55:55):
All right, you got you got you.

SPEAKER_00 (55:56):
Okay.
In 2005, a cryptozoological teamled by British cryptozoologist
and author Richard Freemanventured into the Gobi Desert to
search for the creature.
Uh that didn't encounter theelusive legend.
They documented testimonies fromlocals and collected samples of
the desert soil.
These efforts aim to shed lighton the possible existence of the

(56:18):
Mongolian deathworm.
Um scientists, yeah.
I just got some moreexplanations because about
scientists.
That's fine.
Scientists and skeptics offeralternative explanations for the
rumors of the Mongoliandeathworm.
Some propose that the creaturemay be a misidentified known
animal, such as species of largeburrowing skink or an unknown

(56:40):
species of legless lizard.
Others suggest that the tales uhsurrounding the creatures are
purely based on folklore,perpetrated by the region's rich
storytelling traditions.
Uh, one theory proposes that theMongolian deathworm could be a
surviving relic from prehistorictimes, a living fossil that has
adapted to the harsh desertenvironment over millennia.

(57:03):
This hypothesis draws parallelsto other cryptures believed to
be remnants of ancient creaturessuch as the long-ness monster or
the Yeti.
Um apart from that, I just got Ijust ended up with uh four of
the different things that itcould be if uh if not if nothing

(57:24):
else.

SPEAKER_04 (57:24):
I saw some some people said it could be like a
sandboa.

SPEAKER_00 (57:29):
Yep, sandbo.

SPEAKER_04 (57:31):
They said that um go ahead, but you got that boy.

SPEAKER_00 (57:34):
Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 (57:34):
That's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_00 (57:35):
They just said it could be, yeah.
Um so these are non-venomoussnakes belong to the family of
people.
Oh, that's what I was trying tosay earlier.
Bodie Bodie Bodet.
Uh it's just a San Boa snake,it's name for its adaptation to
sand environments, and it'sknown for its brewing behavior.
So, I mean, it's a it's a prettybig is it is it a big snake?

(57:55):
I'm not too sure.
But I mean, a meter.
At least a meter.

SPEAKER_04 (58:02):
I don't know how big that is.
Sanboa size.
Google, how big is a San Bower?
Let's type up size.
It says it can get as big as 15to 32 inches.
Some reaching 32 to 36 inches.

SPEAKER_00 (58:23):
32 to 36.
That's about that's about two ofmy day to put it together.
I'm trying to imagine how bigthat is.
You feel me?
Um that's it, it's it's averagesize.
Yes, it's average size.
I was gonna say, I I don'tthink, no, because they're
saying a meter.

SPEAKER_05 (58:43):
So I don't think it's big enough for some people
were saying like five to sixfoot long.
The sad the not sandbo is the umdeathworm.

SPEAKER_00 (58:51):
The deathworms?
Five to six, that's what, twometers?
Is it how much how hold on firstthing I had up here and I forgot
it already.
Look at that.
Uh yeah, one meter is threefeet.
So about five to six, it'd beabout two feet, two meters.
Two meters.
Two meters.
Damn.
So you said one meter.
So it's about six feet.

(59:11):
By six feet would be two meters.
Damn, that's that's that's kindof big, though.
That is pretty big.
That is kind of big.
Well, I mean, compared to like aheadaconda and everything, it's
not but it's it's it's thicker.
Well, according to according toaccording to it's all about the
girth.
That's really where all theimportant things are.

SPEAKER_03 (59:28):
It's not about how thick man that's overrated.
It's not about that.

SPEAKER_00 (59:31):
Hey, look, two inches, take it.
But it's 15 inches thick.

SPEAKER_06 (59:39):
Somebody government come pick this man.

SPEAKER_00 (59:46):
Baby, I saw you breakfast on that dick.

SPEAKER_06 (59:50):
Who got them things?
You know how some tribes be putlike that.
What the hell he got in there?
Oh shit.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:04):
What were you saying that was my phone?

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:05):
Say what the fuck's I say?
Um, goddamn.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:11):
God damn, what the fuck was I gonna say?
You're talking about the animalsand everything.
I mean the size of it andeverything.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:17):
Size matters.
Uh no.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:19):
Um, you were gonna say something else?

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:21):
No, something about that.
Damn, I forgot.
No, no, you're good.
No, that was a good one.
My phone, my phone.
Oh, you're good.
Um we'll go back to it.
We'll come back.
We circle around, we circlearound.
We'll circle.
We circle around.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:29):
You know how the brain works.
You know how to be.
Sometimes it invents people tobe there when you're in your
life.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:33):
The brain's like the NASCAR racetrack, you know.
It's just burning all the wayaround.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:39):
All right, so there are some notable encounters,
according to legend.
Okay, okay.
You found it.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
So the nomadic shepherd's tail,which is a Megolian shepherd,
reported seeing a largeredworm-like creature emerging
from the sand.
Okay, he claimed it hissed andspat a yellow substance at his

(01:01:01):
camel, causing the animal tocollapse instantly.
Oh, okay.
The shepherd fled the area andnever returned.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:08):
That would they say.
Should have should uh shouldhave put a pin mark or something
like that, so you remember whereit's at tell everybody we saw.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:14):
He was like on that dude over here.
Alright, so there was like twomore that I got.
The tourist experience.
So a foreign tourist touristtraveling through the Gobi
Desert described witnessing alarge snake-like creature moving
beneath the sand.
The ground reportedly rippled asthe creature traveled, but it

(01:01:34):
never surfaced, only leaving thetrail behind.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:38):
Okay, okay.
With that, with that, I do know,I do know, because natural
natural geographic is to beshowing you everything.
That there are some snakes, likethis uh because he just saw it,
right?
He saw a barrel, but didn'treally see it yet.
I know there's some vipers andstuff like that that they'll
they'll get underneath the sandand that's how they that's how
they hunt or escape other uhother predators.

(01:02:00):
So he could have just seen himtoo, and was like, nah, I gotta
get out of here.
Gotta skedaddle.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:07):
Alright, so this is another one.
During an expedition in the1990s, a team of researchers
claimed to have found a seriesof unusual tracks in the sand.
The tracks resembled someresembled those of a large
burrowing creature, but notdefinite, but not definitive
identification could be made.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:25):
That's another thing.
Okay, that's another thing.
I do know with some of thesnakes in the desert, they'll
leave like this weird.
It's not it's not like this.
It's like a it's like a weird,they leave a weird pattern as as
they uh Oh for real.
Yeah, it's a weird pattern.
It's not like you know, you youknow, you expect the snake to
slither around and like itleaves a little like obviously a

(01:02:46):
little curvy line, whatever.
The way they turn or whatever,it'll like it's just like a
straight mark right here, andthen another mark right here,
but it's going straight.
Does that make sense?
Okay, so like right here when Ipen says, Yeah, so as it goes, I
don't know exactly, I don'tremember exactly how I move, but
like it'll turn a certain way,which it'll leave a mark right
here, and then when it touchesback on the on the for the

(01:03:08):
listeners, imagine like uh likea pound sign, but without the
two lines going across, right?
There you go.
Like two parallels.
Equal sign, if you will.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:20):
Oh if only if only there was a shape shape.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:26):
What is this?
If only mankind could advance,if only someone needs to make
this now.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:38):
Imagine the monastery.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:46):
Yeah, chat.
I'm gonna come.
He said, get a load of thiscollege boy.
Yeah, I'ma head home.
I'ma think about this when Isleep tonight.
I'ma wake up.
Fuck, you idiot.
How could you let your brain?
It wasn't even me, it's mybrain.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:04):
See, my brain just be saying some stupid shit
sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:07):
That's the third man.
That's what it is.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:09):
It's the third man in me.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:13):
The third man in you.
Y'all know.
Y'all know.
Wow.
That's what it's called.
It's getting freak over here,call freaky ass calling colour.
It's after hours.
After hours.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:28):
It's 9 11.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:29):
Make a wish.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:30):
Make a wish.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:36):
Sorry, y'all.
My brain's cooked now.
I'm just thinking.
I'm just I don't even know whatto say.
I don't even know what to say.
Alright, next topic.
I wish it happens again.
No, but what you think about itthen?
Break this thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:50):
You know me.
You know me.
Uh uh.
Hey, uh a cryptic.
What's the word I'm looking forhere?
I wish this cryptists would bereal.
A cryptic believer, if you will,or cryptic uh uh enthusiast.
There you go.
Sound professional, sound betterthan a fucking nut job.

(01:05:11):
Um I believe in monsters.
I believe in monsters.
I feel like the alien guy, theancient alien guy.
Ancient aliens.
Yeah, the ancient alien guyaliens.
Cryptids.
They're out there.
Um if only someone had a termfor what these crazy creatures

(01:05:32):
were.
If only for these monsters,these devilish looking
creatures, these rejects fromhell.
Um I want to believe that thisis real.
I want to give the benefit ofthe doubt that it's just that
elusive.
That it's just but for me, whatmakes it or makes it uh what is

(01:05:57):
it called?
Like uh what discredits it.
Not not really discredits it.
What gives me a little bit moreof a believable factor is well
it was the whole governmenttrying to like ban it or like
you can't look for not look, youcan't come on, right?
Why they know something that wedon't, you know.
So you can't go right nowbecause it's probably making
season or hunting season forthem.

(01:06:18):
Something like that.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just I'm just speculatinghere.
I'm just but a humble tell us,Mr.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:23):
Montgomery.
So that's don't make no noise.
They like noise.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:29):
Put a gallant gun right there.
I don't y'all y'all won't knowwhat it's for, but put it right
there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:34):
Bro, the moment said don't make no noise every little
thing.
Sorry, bro.
But that movie is crazy.
But I would like to believe thatthis is this is real.
They just haven't just haven'tcaught one.
I feel like probably someone didcatch or like find one, dead.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:50):
How would you catch one?

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:51):
Since they emit electricity, not only
electricity, but the corrosiveacid too.
That's what I'm that's what I'mthinking.
Like, I feel like they couldhave caught one, but they died
because they ain't know exactlywhat they were, um, or like they
didn't take all the precautionsfor it.
And they spit on it, so theyeither spit on them, electrify
them, electrocuted them, theyprobably passed out there and
got out whatever it had andkilled them.

(01:07:11):
That's that's what that's whatI'm guessing.
That's just what I'm guessing.
I feel like people maybe haveseen it, but they're not.
They die.
They die, they just died.
And then, you know, everybodydies, and you got nobody, no,
nobody saying, oh, you know, youcan catch one or whatever, you
know.
So I just feel I just feel Ijust feel like it's it's real,
it's just very elusive.

(01:07:32):
And like I said, if anybody,this man should catch one, they
just they don't make it, theydon't make it out.
That's what I think.
That's what that's this is Idon't know though.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You gotta say that then.
Right, you gotta say that so youdon't sound that crazy.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:45):
All right.
I don't know though.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:46):
I don't know.
Me personally, excuse me.
Me personally, I think thisdude's crazy.
He needs help.
I already called these people,they're coming in the big band.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:02):
It's gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:03):
It's gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:04):
He's gonna get a sweet jacket that makes him hug
himself.
It's all about self-love.
But no, um, me, I don't know,bro.
Like, uh, because obviously wedon't know like every specimen
and creature that's on thisplanet, especially the ocean.
Like, the ocean's like one ofthe craziest places to like even
think of it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:23):
And the deserts used to be oceans at one point.
So you don't know.
Well, you don't know something,a death or something.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:29):
A San Megalodon.
Hey, people laughed until we gotbull sharks.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:40):
I tell you in salt water, I mean freshwater.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:43):
People were laughing, and then they saw a
bull shark coming into thefreshwater.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:47):
Okay, hey, you're right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:48):
You right when you hey when you're right, you
right.
Hey, New Yorkers were laughinguntil they had alligators and
just saying.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:56):
Hey, hold on laughing, and then and then she
go shake go sour.
Hey.
I'm just I'm just saying.
No, I ain't gonna lie, like thethe the Tremors movies had a
hole on me too, but for a minuteI was worried, but like I
stepped out my house when I wasliving.
I said, dog, we ain't got norocks in this bitch.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:17):
Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:20):
I look at my house.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:22):
This shit, I survived this shit torn the fuck
up.
They're gonna go straightthrough my living room, eat my
Xbox.
Then what am I doing?
What the fuck am I gonna do,bro?
I said, this shit none butpower, man.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:34):
And the cows in the back.
Oh, my god, but I would havestarted seeing them cows just
start disappearing.
Um I'm running, I'm runningstraight to the uh I'm running
straight to the street.
That's the only asphalt I know.
I don't know.
It needs it needs like actualactual rock, right?
For them to die, I think.
Some shit like that.
But I don't know.
I would like to think they'rereal.
I would like to well, what youthink?

(01:09:55):
You like I said, I think thisdude.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:59):
I'm just joking on him.
I don't know, bro.
Like I said though, like younever know what's out there.
Like, obviously, there's likecountless species we haven't
like found or anything likethat.
Right, right.
But it is interesting to think,like, what if there's stuff we
don't know about in the desert?
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:17):
Because we know that for a fact in the ocean.
There's stuff we don't know inthe ocean, but yeah, in the
desert, because nobody bethinking, you know, it's it's a
harsh environment too, you know.
It's not you can't bring a shipon the desert.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:28):
I mean, because they got scorpions in the desert.
Like, who would have thought?
Yeah, there's this thing thathas venom and it looks like a
really evolved ant.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:36):
If I'm not mistaken, maybe, maybe, maybe I'm just
talking down my ass right here.
I'm almost certain that therewere like sea sea scorpions back
in the like back in prehistorictimes.
Oh shit, I didn't know that.
They're like, they look likescorpions.
They look like scorpions.
If I'm not mistaken, I'm butthey used to be like uh bottom
daughters or like or the bottomfeeders, where they are.

(01:10:59):
But yeah, they they used to belike aquatic, aquatic deserts.
Um and like during prehistorictimes and shit like that.
So I didn't know that.
And that's what one of thethings they were saying was like
maybe it's a survival fromprehistoric times.
So now we got deserts on land.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:16):
Do you know the biggest desert in the world?

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:18):
No, which one?

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:19):
Take a guess.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:20):
I feel like this is a I feel like this is your test.
Uh it's a trick question.
It's the biggest desert in theworld?

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:27):
Uh huh.
I don't know.
Let me make sure I get it right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:28):
All right, go ahead, go ahead.
All right.
Well, you you tell me whatyou're doing.
Oh, the biggest desert?
Just because uh just because wein right now we we talk about
the Mongolian uh death worm.
I think it's the Gobi Desert.
No, bro.
What is it?

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:43):
The Antarctic polar is the world's biggest desert.
What?
Just because it's a desertdoesn't mean it has to be cook-
I mean hot.
A desert just like a vast Ah, Idon't want to have trade
questions.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:55):
Oh, you should have gave me multiple multiple
answers.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:58):
Now, the Sahara is the world's largest, hottest
desert, but but the largest isthe Antarctic polar.
Okay, okay.
It's 5.5 million square miles.
Damn.
The Arctic desert is the secondlargest desert covering 5.4
million.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:16):
Now think about this Mongolian Arctic worm.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:22):
Mmm.
The great Alaskan bull worm.
Ever heard of it?

unknown (01:12:32):
What happened?

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:33):
I was cooking with that one.
I said, yeah, he might have saidsomething.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:40):
You never see y'all never seen the gray, hairy
monster.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:49):
Alaskan bullworm.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:56):
You never seen it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:59):
Never my life, bro.
Never my life, but what I'mlike, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:03):
What?
The Alaskan bullworm.
Alright, if y'all don't knowwhat that is, look it up.
Y'all gonna be scared.
I do it.
Yeah, I already know what thisman is going.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:13):
Look at that vicious, bruh.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:14):
Vicious creature, bro.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:17):
Look at that.
Another Spongebob reference forthe Costco.
That shit is crazy.
That shit is crazy.
That shit is crazy.
And that and that and that'sreal.
And that's real right there.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:34):
And that's real.
But um I don't know, bruh.
I guess I'm like 50-50.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:40):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:41):
Only because we don't know what's out there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:43):
Wrong, but wrong.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:45):
But the other half is like hope is hopeful.
I'm in the middle, bro.
I'm in the middle.
50-50.
Okay.
Well, 60.
I'd like to believe there is,but I'm still 40% skeptical.
Like, that shit too hot.
That shit too hot.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:00):
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:01):
But then again, you got snakes living out there and
they chilling.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:03):
You got spiders living out there.
And they chilling.
And they chilling.
You got birds living out there.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:07):
And they chilling.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:08):
You got cactus living out there.
And it's chilling.
And they chilling.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:12):
You got people living out there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:13):
You got, I don't know, they're chilling, but
they're out there.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:17):
They out there in that heat.
For whatever fucking reason,they out there.
Mad as hell.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:23):
Just squinting all the time, just sand everywhere.
Um what would you rate this,bro?

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:30):
If I was to rate the I mean the Alaskan boy.
The Mongolian deathworm for itslethality and everything, bruh,
this thing like a this thinglike a nine for me.
Nine ten.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:43):
That's full of if we just look in pure what it can
do.
Nine ten.
It's just the lack, the lack oflike more more evidence.
But like I said, they probablycould have caught it.
They just died.
They didn't know what they have.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:59):
I'll give this one a 10, fuck it.
Because it has it can shock, ithas electricity, it has venom,
it's big, it moves, it burrows.
It's basically Mewtwo.
Basically.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:11):
I give it a 10, bro.
Fuck it.
All right.
All right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:14):
Where's my golden buzzer?
All right.
I give this a five.
Let me just not explain.
No, just playing.
No, it's a 10 for me too.
Just just based on what, like,if it if it's real.
And I'm more on the believingside of it.
It can be real.
I'm believing this can be real.
I can see it.
I can see it being real, but Iwon't give this a 10.

(01:15:38):
But if I find out this shit notreal.
I'm going to crash out.
I'm going.
I'm going to turn into a uhMongolian death worried.
I'm going to make this thingreal.
I'm about to be like that onescientist just making weird
weird experiments.
Turn myself into a work.
I'm going to turn myself like uhlike uh what is it?
What is that dude?
Uh from Spider-Man?

(01:15:59):
Uh the lizard.
Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:01):
Oh, I forgot his name.
I don't know what I'm saying.
You know who I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:03):
Yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna jump myself with wormDNA.
Just end up like a regular worm,not even that much.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:13):
Reverence, come here.
You won't believe what happenedto me, Reverence.
Just a tiny worm inching.
Where the fuck are you?
Don't step on me.
Don't step on me.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:21):
That that's that.
That's a real little questionright there that girls be
asking.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:24):
If I was a worm.
Would that still be in thepodcast?

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:29):
But um, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:30):
Y'all let us know what y'all think, though.
Let us know if y'all believe inthe uh Mongolian death worm.
Let us know if y'all have anyinformation about it.
If y'all, if y'all ever seen it,if y'all have any stories from
your family.
I don't know.
Y'all let us know if y'allbelieve in it or not.
Or what do y'all rate it?

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:48):
The Mongolian.
I feel like there's a tribe outthere.
That rides of oh shit.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:54):
Like like Dune, the movie.
They got the movie.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:58):
They really just be if you look at it, movies are
based off real life.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:08):
Toy story.
Y'all not sticking with theprogram.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:10):
Oh, hell no.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:11):
I'll be fucking real.
SpongeBob out of water movie.
Come on now.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:17):
A sponge out of water.
That's criminal.
But uh, nah, I I I hope I hopethis thing is real.
I just hope this thing is real.
I'm praying.
No, no, pray is too much.
Pray is too much.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:30):
I hope this is real.
Because I'd like for some ofthis dangerous to be walking.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:35):
But um, that's all I got for that, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:39):
Like I said, y'all let us know what y'all think.
Uh messages at cosmic cove atK-O-S-M-I-C underscore C-O-V-E.
And yeah, we're gonna head offto the next topic.
Ah, yeah.
Ah, uh, yeah.
Ah, yeah.
Uh uh, yeah.
Alright.

(01:17:59):
So to end this off, we got agood, nice little concept.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:04):
Little scene.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:05):
Huh?
Little.
I I looked up all the details.
It all felt filled like fittedin one paragraph.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:12):
Oh, Tyson.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:13):
No, tice it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:16):
The first one I did was a little too too relaxed.
I said, nah, let me let me dothis just because I remember
some of the details, and I waslike, I'm not covering half the
like the like the interesting,yeah, interesting uh points that
I was like, yeah, let me redothis over.
So I had I had two, we startedhalfway through.
I said, this ain't enough.
I need more.
Right.
I need more information.

SPEAKER_05 (01:18:35):
Because you wanted the sound good, you want it to
flow good, you want somesuspense added to it, you want
some build up.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:41):
Because I like the way we did the other one, the
one uh where uh the the with theone with the fire.
I like how we did that one.
The fire?
The um the fire that happened atthe house?
I think it's the last episode.
I forgot what their um I forgotwhat what is what the case is
called.
But I like how we did that one.
That one was uh at leastlistening back to it.
It was it was very entertaining.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:01):
So go ahead, let them know what it is then.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:05):
This is Madea goes to no deal goes to the DMV and
applies for food at the DMV.
You gotta keep people on theirtoes.
Chill buddy, chill, chill, sit.
Oh, sit, sit.
Okay, okay.
Okay, thank you.
Sit down.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:24):
I already know how you're gonna start off, and I
got a little quick fun factbefore you start off.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:28):
All right, go ahead.
I mean, go ahead, sit down.
Oh, I was gonna say.
So this is about the DB Cooperhijacking.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:33):
All right, before you continue, did you know that
it's not DB Cooper?
It's Dan Cooper.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:38):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So the DB Cooper was just uhjust by media.
They just ran with it, but thealias he gave on on what y'all
about to see, he put down DanCooper.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:50):
That's what the FBI, that's what the FBI was working
with.
That's that's all they had.
That's all they had.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:54):
Maybe it was Cooper Dan.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:57):
It was Cooper Dan.
Maybe he actually gave themtheir real identity, but they're
like, these bozos got it.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:04):
But maybe perfect escape.
Oh my god.
But go ahead, let the peopleknow what this is, y'all.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:10):
So I'm gonna start it off.
I'm gonna start this.
I'm I got this in story format.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:13):
I got this in uh so it was on a Sunday morning.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:17):
Close.
It will it was Monday nowexplaining.
It was I didn't get the extradamn location.
Went back.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:24):
All right, so it's ruined.
Look it up and enjoy this.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:27):
Look it up, take this out.
You said Sunday, right?
Was it did you know it wasSunday or no no?
I don't know if you want to lookthis up, see what day it was.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:34):
Go ahead and look it up.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:35):
It was November 24 1971.
Oh my god.
Did not ask the great question.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:49):
Hold on, y'all.
Give us a sec.
We're doing a little quickresearch.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:52):
Oh, it was Wednesday.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:53):
Oh, it was Wednesday.
Fuck.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:55):
Close you all by the way.
Perfect day.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:57):
A perfect day, really.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:58):
To do this a Wednesday, never see it coming.
This is this is this is Saturdayor Friday activities right here.
Wednesday, your your guard islow, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:07):
At the lowest, because you're already
recovering from the weekend, butalso thinking about the weekend.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:13):
You think about the weekend, Monday, Tuesday, gone.
Worst days, that was your worstday.
Wednesday, you having the goodday.
You're not even thinking aboutthis.
And now you you only gotThursday and Friday coming up.
So that's what you look at.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:25):
Then the man comes in and does his thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:26):
Then the man.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:28):
He does.
Well, that was your oh what hedo.
What'd he do?

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:32):
What he do?

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:33):
What did he do?

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:34):
He did something.
Y'all about to find out.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:37):
You won't believe what this is.
Y'all gonna hear these notes.
Y'all gonna hear these.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:41):
Y'all won't believe what this man did at the So this
man on Thanksgiving Eve,November 24th, 1971, a man
carried that black attache case.
That's just a fancy word forbriefcase.
I looked it up.

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:52):
You didn't know what an attached case was that was.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:54):
I was like, attache case.
I was like, the fuck, what thefuck is it?

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:58):
It's just the terminology.
Yeah, it's just a terminology.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:00):
Yeah, it's just like a little briefcase.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:01):
It is a certain thing, but it's just it's just a
briefcase.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:04):
I was about to say, it's like where people were
calling something, there was acertain thing.
I didn't know what the fuck itwas.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:08):
I only know this because my girlfriend used to
work at a bank.
I mean, she's she does, but sheused to work at this other bank,
and her coworker was a dude, andhe always had his attack
attache.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:18):
He always had attache.
And he said, This isn't abriefcase.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:21):
You telling me you we just found out where DB
Cooper's at?

unknown (01:22:25):
Oh my.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:26):
Nobody else in the world uses attache.
Except but two people so farthat I've heard of.
What was his name?
Not explain.
His name was Dan Cooper.

unknown (01:22:41):
Damn.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:42):
I didn't even put it together until you said it.
Go ahead.
What are we saying down myphone, bro?

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:50):
So this Black Eyeshake case approached the
flight counter for NorthwestOrient Airlines at Portland
International Airport.
Using cash, the man bought aone-way ticket on flight 305.
A 30-minute trip north throughSeattle, Tacoma International
Airport.
On his ticket, the man listedhis name as Dan Cooper.

(01:23:13):
Eyewitnesses described Cooper asa white male in his mid-40s.
My bad.
With dark hair and brown eyes,wearing a black or brown
business suit, a white shirt, athin black tie, a black
raincoat, and brown shoes.
Dang, I remember all this fromseeing one person one time.
Damn.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:31):
Look, when the fit is clean, the fan.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:32):
Hey, Loki, that fame must have been clean.
Hey, you got your best shit ofhijack.
Hey.

SPEAKER_05 (01:23:37):
Hey, you got low-key, because they said they
said, according to someconspiracies, he looked like a
man who um like a professional.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:45):
I know he felt hey, he felt like us when we go pick
up uh that TV.
Remember we put up I know he wasfeeling right that day.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:52):
Everybody in Best Buy said, Dang, these
motherfuckers gonna buy thewhole store, right?
And then put that shit in theback of that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:00):
Damn, man.
I was feeling like a bad babythat day.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24:04):
I I couldn't relate, I could understand completely.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:06):
We both came out there and we talked about Damn!
Alright, so Doctors.
So uh he was carrying abriefcase and a brown paper bag.
Uh Cooper boarded Flight 305.
Uh, he took a seat.
C was ATE in the last row andordered a drink, a bourbon, and
seven note from a flightattendant.

(01:24:27):
They all they know all this, butthey have all this.
So, with a crew of six and 36passengers aboard, including
Cooper, Flight 305 left Portlandon schedule at 2 50 p.m.
Shortly after takeoff, Cooperhanded a note to flight
attendant uh Shaffner, who wassitting in the jump seat at the

(01:24:47):
rear of the airplane, uhdirectly behind Cooper, assuming
the note was a lonelybusinessman's telephone.
That's fucked up, Staffnerdropped a note unopened into her
purse.
Cooper then leaned towards herand whispered, Miss, you better
look at that note.
I have a bomb.
Chills.
Chills, literally, chills.

(01:25:07):
Try to tell her head thing, shegot a head on.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:10):
Right.
Bitch, no, bitch, I'm about toblow this thing up.
You're gonna be the first one.
Goofy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:17):
Goofy.
Oh, wait, I holler at yourmid-ass phone too.
Once your little dozy ass.
I got plasma in my right now.
So, talking about I got a biggerfresh frog.
So Shaftner opened the note inneat all capital letters Cooper
had written.
Miss, I have a bomb in mybriefcase.

(01:25:38):
Don't be a hero.
Walk away.
Uh, I want you to sit by me.
Shaftner returned the note toCooper, sat down as he
requested, and asked Quiarly tosee the bomb.
He opened his briefcase.
Low Keisha already had it overwith.
She had a check.
I respect her for that.
She had a check.
He opened a briefcase and he andshe saw two rows of four red

(01:26:01):
cylinders, which she assumedwere dynamite.
Attached to the cylinders were awire and a large cylindrical
battery which resembled a bomb.
Cooper closed the briefcase andtold Shafter his demands.
She wrote a note with Cooper'sdemands, brought it to the
cockpit, and informed the flightcrew of the situation.
Captain Scott directed her toremain in the cockpit for the

(01:26:22):
remainder of the flight and takenotes of events as they
happened.
He then relayed to Northwestflight operations in Minnesota
the hijackers' demands.
Cooper's request, 2,000 in theknapsack by 5 p.m.
He wants two front parachutes,two back parachutes.
He wants the money in thenegotiable American currency.

(01:26:43):
By requesting two sets ofparachutes, Cooper implied he
planned to take a hostage withhim, thereby discouraging
authorities from supplyingnon-functional equipment.
Smart.
Smart, smart, smart.
He was really thinking ahead ofthe Shaffner in the cockpit,
flight attendant Muklo sat nextto Cooper to act as a liaison

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between him and the flight crew.
Cooper then made additionaldemands upon landing at CTEC.
Fuel trucks were to meet theplane, and all passengers were
to remain seated while Muklobrought the money aboard.
He said he would release thepassengers after he had the
money.
The last items brought aboardwere the four parachutes.
Scott informed CTEC, uh airtraffic control, to the situ of

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the situation, who contacted theSeattle Police Department and
the federal FBI.
The passengers were told theirarrival in Seattle would be
delayed because of a minormechanical difficulty.
But you better tell me you got afucking bomb in the plane.
Don't be telling me no minormechanical difficulty.
If I find out there was a bombin the plane, I'm jumping out.

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Hey.

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Cooper was not nervous.
He seemed rather nice and he wasnot cruel or nasty.
So this man really, aprofessional, professional, if
you will.
While the airplane circledSeattle, Mark Lowe chatted that
Cooper and uh uh with Cooper andasked why he chose Northwest
Airlines to hijack.

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He laughed and replied, It's notbecause I have a grudge against
your airlines, it's just becauseI have a grudge.
Cold.
This man is dropping cold linesleft and right.

SPEAKER_05 (01:29:24):
One liners, really.

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:25):
One liners, for real.
Uh Dan explained the flightsimply suited his needs.
He asked where she was from.
She answered she was originallyfrom Pennsylvania, but was
living in Minneapolis at thetime.
Uh Cooper responded thatMinnesota was a very nice
country.

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Country country.
He asked if she smoked andoffered her a cigarette.
She replied she had quit butaccepted the cigarette.
So FBI records know Cooper spokebriefly to an unidentified
passenger while the airplanemaintained its holding pattern

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over Seattle.
In his interview with FBIagents, passenger George uh I'm
just gonna call him Georgestated that he visited the
restroom directly behind Cooperon several occasions.
After one visit, George said thepath to his seat was blocked by
a passenger wearing a cowboy hatquestioning Muglow about the
supposed mechanical problemdelaying them.

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George said Cooper was initiallyamused by the interaction, then
became irritated and told theman to return to his seat.
But the cowboy, the reminder, dowhat the hat with the cowboy
hat, ignored Cooper andcontinued to question Muglow.
George claimed he eventuallypersuaded the cow quote-unquote
cowboy to return to his seat.
Muglow's version of theinteraction differed from uh

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from George's.
She said a passenger approachedher and asked for a sports
magazine to read because he wasbored.
She and the passenger moved toan area directly behind Cooper
where they both looked formagazines.
The passenger took a copy of theNew Yorker and returned to his
seat.
When Mokler returned to his seatwith Cooper, said, If that is a

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Sky Marshal, I don't want anymore of that.
But she reassured him there wereno sky marshals on the flight.
Uh despite his brief interactionwith Cooper, the cowboy was not
interviewed by the FBI and wasnever identified.
So it's just a little bit of uhuh what is it called?
Things don't line up a littlebit, but a little side tag.

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A little side, a little sidething of one person gave one
story, she gave another story.
So really not knowing.
The FBI never interviewed, so wedon't know we don't know what's
going on.
If it wasn't fire martial uh uhuh I'm about to say space
marshal.
If it was a space martial so the200,000 ransom was received from

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Seattle First National Bank,10,000 unmarked$20 bills, most
of which had a serial numbersbeginning with the letter L.
Uh Seattle police obtained thetwo uh front parachutes uh from
a local uh skydiver school andthe two back parachutes from a
local stump pilot.
Around 524, uh Scott wasinformed the parachutes had been

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delivered to CTAC and notifiedCooper they would be landing
soon.
At 546, uh Flight 305 landed atCTAG.
With Cooper's permission, Scottparked the aircraft on a
partially lit runway away fromthe main terminal.
Uh Cooper demanded only onerepresentative of the airline
would push the plane with theparachutes and money, and the

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only entrance and exit would bethrough the aircraft's front
door via mobile stairs.
Northwest Seattle OperationsManager Al Lee was designated to
be the courier to avoid thepossibility Cooper might mistake
Lee's airline uniform for lawenforcement officer.
He changed into civilian clothesfor the task.

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Uh, with the passengersremaining seated, a ground crew
attached a mobile stair uh perCooper's directive.
Mucklow exited the aircraftthrough the front door and
retrieved the ransom money.
Once she returned, she carriedthe money back past the seated
passengers to Cooper in the lastrow.
Cooper then agreed to releasethe passengers.
As they debarked, Cooper.

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Uh Cooper inspected the money inan attempt to break the tension.
Muklo jerkly asked Cooper if shecould have some of it.
Cooper readily agreed and handedher a packet of bills.
But she immediately returned themoney and explained according to
accepting gratuities was againstcompany policy.
I don't give a fuck.
You hijacking me, you threatenedme with the fucking bone, one

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stack, bitch.
I need me two stacks of damnmoney.
Um she said Cooper had tried totip her and the other two flight
attendants earlier in the flightwith money from his pocket, but
they had each decline signingthe policy.
Um just what we do in thatsituation.
You taking the money or youleave the money?

SPEAKER_05 (01:34:05):
At this point, I don't even have this job no
more, bro.
I done resigned I don't evenwork there no more.
I'm part of the plan, really.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:15):
I'm definitely taking one of them parachutes.
Alright, so with the passengersafely debarked, uh only Cooper
and the six crew membersremained aboard.
Uh, in accordance with Cooper'sdemands, Mughlow made three
trips uh outside the aircraft toretrieve the parachutes, which
she uh brought to him in therear of the plane.
While Muglow brought aboard theparachutes, Staffner asked

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Cooper if she could uh retrieveher purse stored in the
compartment behind his seat.
Cooper agreed and told her, Iwon't bite you.
Flight attendant Hancock, thenasked Cooper if the flight
attendants could leave, to whichshe replied, Whatever you go,
whatever you girls will like.
Uh so Hancock and Shaffnerdebarked.

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Um when Mucklow brought thefinal parachute to Cooper, she
gave him print instructions foruse in the parachutes, but
Cooper said he didn't need them.
That's a boss ass shit rightthere.
Don't even need it, bro.
This this man is a professional.

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:10):
This man playing it cool the whole time.
He's like, fuck.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:15):
Why did I say that?
Me when I would get the foodthat I would.
I just take that.
Um with the refueling processcost a delay.
So a second truck and then athird were brought to the
aircraft to complete therefueling.
During the delay, Mark Low saidCooper complained.

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The money was delivered in thecloth bag instead of a knapsack
as he had directed.
And he now had to improvise anew way to transport the money.
Using a pocket knife, he cut thecanopy from one of the reserve
parachutes and stuff some of themoney into the empty parachute
bag.

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:51):
Um he cut the good one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35:55):
I had I had seen also that they supposedly they
had gave him at faulty parachuteon purpose somewhere, but I'm I
couldn't find that right now.
Um like an actual thing sayingit, but I had it unless it's
dead but I didn't realize it,but yeah, uh, I had heard that
before.
So a FFA F-88 official requesteda face-to-face meeting with

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Cooper aboard the aircraft.
Well, Cooper denied the request.
See, I go brother.
I'm not playing, man.
You see me strapped, you askingall these dumbass questions.
Right.
I'll blow this whole thing tosmell the ring.
You know what I only care aboutthem.
Boom.
Cooper became impatient saying,This shouldn't take so long, and
let's get this show on the road.
He then gave the cockpit crewhis flight plan and directives.

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It's southeast course towardsMexico City at the minimum
airspeed possible withoutstalling the aircraft.
Cooper also specified thelanding gear must remain
deployed, the wing flaps must belowered 15 degrees, and the
cabin must remain unpressurized.
This man is a professional.
This ain't his first time doingthis.

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First officer.
It has a C and a Z.
An A and a K at the end.
My mouth can't do that.
So I'm just gonna call on.
First Officer informed Cooperthat the configuration limited
the aircraft's range to about1,000 miles.
So a second refueling would benecessary before entering

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Mexico.
Cooper and the crew discussionsup uh discussed options and
agreed on Reno TahoeInternational Airport as a
refueling stop.
Cooper further directed theaircraft to take off with the
rear exit door open and its airair stair extended.
Northwest officials objected forreasons of safety, but Cooper
counted by saying, It can bedone, so do it.

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But these one liners be goingcrazy, bro.
But then but then did not insistand said he would lower the
staircase once they wereairborne.
Cooper demanded Mukloe remainaboard to assist the operation.
So around 7 40 p.m., flight 305took off with only Cooper Muglow
Scott Ratask and Flight uhFlight Engineer Anderson

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aborden.
So two by this time, two F uh106 fighters from uh McCorre Air
Force Base and a Lockheed T-33trainer diverted from an
unrelated Air National Guardmission, followed a 727, all
three Jets were maintained asflight patterns to stay behind

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the slow-moving 727.
And out of Cooper's view.
My fault.
After takeoff, Cooper toldMugglo to lower their uh their
staircase.
She told him that the flightcrews uh she feared being sucked
out of the aircraft.
The flight crew suggested shecome to the cockpit and retrieve
the emergency robe, which shecould tie herself to a seat.

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Cooper rejected the suggestion,stating he did not want her
going up front or the flightcrew coming back to the cabin.
She continued to express herfear to him and asked him to cut
some cord from one of theparachutes to create a safety
line for her.
He said he will lower the stairscase himself.
Real man right there.
He said, you know what, I'll dothis myself.

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Um he instructed her to go tothe cockpit, close the current
uh partition between the coachand the first class sections,
and now return.
Before she left, Michael uh begCooper, please, please take the
bomb with you.
Cooper responded that he wouldeither restarm it or take it
with him.
As she walked to the cockpit andreturned to close the current

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partition, she saw Cooperstanding in the aisle trying
what appeared to be the money,oh, tying what appeared to be
the money bag around his waist.
From takeoff to when Mukloentered the cockpit, four to
five minutes have uh elapsed.

SPEAKER_05 (01:39:48):
Now that started getting crazy.
I'm over here like, damn, what'sabout to happen next?

SPEAKER_00 (01:39:55):
Almost to them, almost to them.
My bad, my bad.
No, you're good.
Um to when Muklo entered thecockpit.
Four to five minutes haveelapsed for the rest of the
flight to Reno.
Mukla remained in the cockpitand was the last person to see
Cooper around 8 p.m.
A cockpit warning light flashindicated the staircase had been

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deployed.
Scar used the place aircomb toask Cooper if he needed
assistance, but Cooper's lastmessage was a one-word reply.
No.
Really, really, this man's justa professional, bro.
Good luck, suckers.
I would have said some crazyshit.
I feel I would have said somecrazy shit and then jumped off,

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died instantly.
The crew's ears popped from thedrop in the air pressure from
the stairs being opened.
At approximately 8 13, theaircraft's tail section suddenly
pitched upward, forcing thepilots to trim and return the
aircraft to level flight.
In his interview with the FBI,uh Radasak said the sudden
upward pitch occurred while theflight was near the suburbs

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north of Portland.
With the cabin door open and thestaircase deployed, the flight
crew remained in the cockpit,unsure if Cooper was still
aboard.
Mokolo used the intercon to hornCooper they were approaching
Reno and that he needed to raisethe stairs so the airplane could
land safely.

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She repeated her request as thepilots made the final approach
to the land, but neither Mokolonor the flight crew received a
reply from Cooper.
At 11.02 p.m.
with the staircase stilldeployed, Flight 305 landed at
the Reno Tahoe InternationalAirport.
FBI agents, state troopers,sheriff deputies, and Reno
police established a perimeteraround the aircraft, but fearing

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the hijack and the bomb wasstill on aboard did not approach
the plane.
Scott searched the cabin,confirmed Cooper was no longer
aboard, and after 30 minutesearch, an FBI bomb squad
declared the cabin safe.

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:54):
Damn.

SPEAKER_00 (01:41:55):
And that is what happened on flight 305.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:00):
That's what happened with Mr.

SPEAKER_03 (01:42:01):
Dan Cooper.
Mr.
Dan Cooper.
The man who got away.
The man who got away.
Or so they say.
What do you mean?
So they say.

unknown (01:42:11):
Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:12):
Go ahead, what you got?

SPEAKER_00 (01:42:13):
What you got, bro?
That's what you got.
Oh, yeah, that huh?
That was it.
Yeah, that was it.
That's it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:17):
You have no other facts then?
No.
Like you didn't do none of thethings.

SPEAKER_00 (01:42:19):
No, no, the other one then.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:21):
So people were saying, like.
Obviously, some people say hedied.
Some people are claiming he diedwhen he jumped out the plane.
Other people saying he lived.
But before we get into that, hehe's famous because he's like
the first.
Well, not first.
He's like the only person toever pull off like a plane heist

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like that.
Like I think that's the only onethat's been until this next
Wednesday.
I think he's known as the firstand only.

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:55):
I don't know, where's that?
I'd had it right here.
Hold on, sorry.

SPEAKER_05 (01:43:09):
Yeah.
His hijacking is the onlyunsolved skyjacking in
commercial aviation history inthe US where the criminal
vanished completely.
Alright.
So another couple fun factsabout him, real quick, was um
obviously the one I said wherepeople say DB Cooper, but it's

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not DB Cooper, it's Dan Cooper.
But people say DB Cooper becausesome journalist, the reporter
said DB Cooper, and they justran with it.
So that's why a lot of peoplethen say D.
Cooper.
It sounds better, really, morecatchy.
Right, it does.
Another crazy thing was uhCooper smoked Benson and Hedges
Reds, okay, cigarettes, whichare rare and expensive at the

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time.
Oh that just goes to shows thatmaybe he was like a professional
some person, like someone thatliked to uphold his image and
everything.

SPEAKER_00 (01:43:59):
Okay.
I mean, clearly people rememberhow he was dressed.
I mean, right?

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:03):
So I mean he could have really just pulled out the
Marlboro six, the the what youcall the red, the long ones, the
hundreds.

SPEAKER_00 (01:44:11):
The hundreds.

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:12):
Right?
He could have just one rightthere.
Um, another couple things thatpeople were saying was uh well
let's just get into whathappened.
Like, all right, so they saidlike after he jumped out the
plane, people obviously sayinglike he went in the woods and he
went into hiding.
Or some people claim that theysaw a person coming out of a

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plane parachuting and that hegot in a getaway vehicle.
Somebody was waiting for him inthere.
I heard that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:44:42):
Yeah, I've heard that too.

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:43):
Alright.
Another theory is obviously helanded in the trees and he just
escaped in the forest.
But people were saying nobecause you know they said the
forest was just like a reallydense area and it was like
really bad at the time.
Apparently, there was like asnowstorm or something that
happened during that time.

SPEAKER_00 (01:44:59):
During that time, yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:45:00):
So, because of the snowstorm, they were saying like
that's what helped him get awayas well.

SPEAKER_00 (01:45:05):
Because, you know, the all his tracks, his tracks
were covered, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:45:08):
So there was like snow and everything, so they
really couldn't see his tracksbecause his tracks would go away
eventually.

SPEAKER_00 (01:45:13):
Low-key.
And if I was a professional, Imean they say he was familiar,
he's he like he knew where hewas at.
I mean that's if I if I if I wasD B Cooper, that's what I'd do.

SPEAKER_05 (01:45:29):
But again, like I said, due to like the weather
and everything, that's wherepeople tend to say he didn't
survive because one, the weatherwas bad.

SPEAKER_00 (01:45:36):
Oh, yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_05 (01:45:38):
Two, his his parachute, how do you know he
got the right parachute and nota bad parachute?
But they said he did inspect theparachute.
Like he inspected all theparachutes or whatever, and he
said that they were good, Ithink, or whatever.
And another crazy thing thatpeople also believe was that he
was like probably like anex-military person.

(01:45:59):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:45:59):
Or like past, or he had like he had military
training, yeah, becauseapparently just civilians can't
use parachutes just off the rip.
I mean, I could if I was in thatsituation, but um apparently,
like, it's you can't just put iton parachute and just jump off
and you know know how to controlit.

SPEAKER_05 (01:46:17):
So that's why they were saying he probably had
military or aviation experience.
They say he was probably like aparatrooper since he knew a lot
about the aircraft.
He was like really calm aboutit.
He knew what he needed and whathe wanted.
And like you said, he knew aboutlanding, he knew about the
plane.
Um, that plane specificallybeing okay to open up and having

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the staircase.

SPEAKER_03 (01:46:40):
He told him what degree he wanted the the flaps
to be at and everything, butthat's so he knew he knew what
he was talking about, he had theknowledge of what to do, and we
all know you can do anythingwith knowledge.

SPEAKER_05 (01:46:51):
You know what's better than all these cars in my
garage?
These books on my stud on mybookcase.
Knowledge.
All right, so um a little crazything about the money, also,
they said that there was likefive thousand eight hundred
dollars that came flowing downthe river.

(01:47:11):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So kid actually came along andactually found the money.

SPEAKER_00 (01:47:15):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:47:16):
But you know what's crazy is like if you find the
money and you end up like takingit and spending it, we found DV
Cooper, we found Daniel Cooper.
Oh yeah.
They take the whole little kid.
He used some kind of uh syringe,some type of chemical to make
himself young.
But he found him though.

SPEAKER_00 (01:47:31):
For all we know, that's probably what he did.

SPEAKER_05 (01:47:33):
For all we know, for all we know.

SPEAKER_04 (01:47:36):
Um they did say he was like uh they gave like
details about like what the FBIclaims his height and everything
was.

SPEAKER_05 (01:47:45):
Because the FBI claimed he was like uh about
5'10 to 6 foot tall.
They said um probably 170 to 180pounds.
Okay.
Uh, and like you said, he waslike 40 years old, or he
appeared to be, but they said hewas well groomed and wore a
business suit.
Um, I'm like kind of jumping allover the place, but before
anything, the money was$200,000and it was in$20 bills.

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And that equivalents to like$1.00 million in today's time.
He really pulled in ahead, justenough for bills with the
inflation calculator.
It's really thinking ahead,really.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:22):
Really?

SPEAKER_05 (01:48:24):
And um what else was there?

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:26):
That's how you make less money, more money, right
there.
Imagine he stole 200,000.

SPEAKER_05 (01:48:33):
Walked away one point something.
I can't even think of a goodcomeback.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:41):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 (01:48:44):
They say money doesn't grow on trees, but it
grows when it's just there.
Interest.
And what was he interested in?
Money.
Stay with it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:56):
Stay with me.
Stay with me, class.
Oh my god.
See, all he had to do is putthat in the paint, let it sit.
But it may be in there rightnow.

SPEAKER_05 (01:49:08):
All right.
Um, what else was there?
Um there's just like a bunch.
So like the FBI likeinvestigated for a really long
ass time.
They investigated from like 1971to like two 2016.
Literally a year after wegraduated, they're like, you
know what?
We we done.
We're not looking no more.

(01:49:28):
We're done with this.
We can't find this man.
This man did.

SPEAKER_00 (01:49:31):
That was a whole X-File's really though.

SPEAKER_05 (01:49:33):
Right.
But over the years, the FBIcollected thousands of tips,
letters, suspect, suspectprofiles, but they never found
who Cooper was.
Apparently, apparently, I didn'tknow this.
But apparently, like we said,the FBI was getting letters, and

(01:49:55):
there was a couple letters thatactually seemed legit because um
it talked about certain thingsthat only Oh, that only they
would know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:50:07):
Hold on, where's it at?

SPEAKER_05 (01:50:10):
Uh fuck.
Hold on.
Let me look at my notes.
Recipients were the FBI andlocal newspaper.
Uh, some of the letters likehinted at like the money being
buried or like escape points orwhatever.
One letter mentioned a riverbank near Vancouver, Washington,
aligning with the money that wasdiscovered in 1980 by the boy.

(01:50:32):
Uh, some letters use aviationterminology accurately, like
referencing flaps, airspeeds, orjump procedures.
Um, some letters included likeaccurate aviation or procedural
information.
Um this is pretty much likesaying, like, like I said,
people were just sending in abunch of letters or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (01:50:52):
But but it had like some of the like the correct
terminology and everything youwould use, right?

SPEAKER_05 (01:50:59):
So apparently, like in 1972, the police department
had received a letter claimingto be Cooper, which included
like exact details about therear air stair exit and then or
and the order in which thepassengers were released.
Oh, okay.
They described like theparachute system accurately,
like the two main and tworeserve.

(01:51:22):
Um it was it's it's regarded aslike a good piece of evidence
because at the time the policeare released.
They hadn't released no.
It wasn't public knowledge.
So the fact that the person knewthis, they're like, this must be
him writing in these letters.

SPEAKER_00 (01:51:42):
That one, I I remember that one, and I I felt
like that that couldn't, thatwasn't, I feel like that was
somebody.
Maybe it was somebody from theinside that knew about that.
So I was like, it's tooprofessional.
This man knows what he's doingto try to jeopardize his freedom
over just saying that thatletter, you know.

SPEAKER_05 (01:52:01):
So people they say it's plausible, but the
government said, I mean, the FBIsaid um handwriting analysis,
like concluded it was likeinconclusive.

SPEAKER_00 (01:52:14):
Because the note that he the note that he did
leave, it was just all capital,all capital letters, though.

SPEAKER_05 (01:52:19):
That's why they're saying it wasn't like conclusive
to what he had written.
Obviously, they had gotten abunch of letters that were like
a bunch of just hoaxes and stufflike that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:52:31):
Okay, but people, oh my, I don't know why people love
doing that, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (01:52:34):
Right, that's what we were talking about the last
episode.

SPEAKER_00 (01:52:36):
Bro, I don't know why the fuck they love doing
that, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (01:52:38):
Like, I know who he was, my grandpa, and then he
showed up and he bought a newCadillac.
Shut up.

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:46):
Go to sleep, go back upstairs, close your room, close
your room, not your door.
Don't ever come back down here.
Put the chain on.

unknown (01:53:01):
Sorry.

SPEAKER_05 (01:53:02):
Go to the corner.
Sorry, we always keep themlocked up in the room when
guests come on.
All right, no, but back to likethe sandstorms theory.
So, like the sandstorm theory oflike the sandstorm 1971 was that
um they said it was cold andrainy with temperature around 40
Fahrenheit or like four to fivedegrees Celsius.

(01:53:24):
Oh, okay, okay.
There was fog and wind, and somesources mentioned early snow in
the higher elevations of theCascade foothills.

SPEAKER_00 (01:53:33):
Oh shit, okay.
But that ain't enough for DBCooper.
That ain't enough for DB Cooper.

SPEAKER_05 (01:53:39):
Right.
So they said that he probablylike landed in because there was
like a bunch of cabins scatteredout, but nobody like lived in
the cabin.
Oh, they were just there, thatthey were I mean, they probably
do, but it was like under thecabin type thing, probably, or
some shit like that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:53:52):
Okay.
Not a permanent living theretype of thing, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:53:56):
So they said he probably like went inside those
cabins to like live in the likejust warm up or survive a little
bit, type shit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:54:02):
Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:54:04):
That was like some of those um conspiracies or
theories or whatever.
Um, what else do I got?
There was a bunch more.
Hmm.
Sorry, I wish I had my thinglike better laid out, my notes
and everything, but I got one inmy head, but I won't say it just

(01:54:26):
in case you got it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:54:27):
Go ahead, say it.
Oh, I remember there was thisapparently uh this dude, this
dude ended up, in a sense,telling the police that his dad
had confessed to him being theDB Cooper.
Um because he was passing away,he was dying.
Like it was near 2000, uh 2012,something like that.

(01:54:48):
So the dude, the the the old manwas like, he was dying because
he got cashed or some shit likethat.
And on his deathpad, he toldhe's told his son that he was
the he he was uh DB Cooper.
And but and then he died, sothey the FBI couldn't even
investigate into it orsomething, like see if he really
was or um That man was justchasing clout.

(01:55:11):
Don't believe he was justsaying, bro, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm DB Cooper.
I was gonna say, if I was on mydeath bed, and I know there was
some crazy cat.

SPEAKER_05 (01:55:18):
That's pretty much that's pretty much like all I
got though, bro.

SPEAKER_00 (01:55:21):
Like they just saying like jump out it's just
yeah, it's just none of the noneof like the theories were like
necessarily conclusive to to oneanswer or another, because
nobody really knows.
No, nobody really knows whatwhat happened to that man.

SPEAKER_05 (01:55:36):
They just say he disappeared, he disappeared,
yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:55:40):
And that was it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:55:41):
Like, that's pretty much it.
That's all he disappeared, hedisappeared.
He literally got away with that.
Like, obviously, there's peoplethat uh uh are saying, like,
because you know, people reportto the FBI, this man he came
across he came across a lot ofmoney, he bought a brand new
car, and he don't got no money.
I don't know where he got thatmoney from, but he got new new
vehicle and everything.

SPEAKER_00 (01:56:02):
That's why I'm gonna become rich, bro.
Because I know more than becomerich, bro.
So I'm gonna call police humble.

SPEAKER_05 (01:56:06):
He's selling drugs.

SPEAKER_00 (01:56:07):
He's selling drugs, or like he he just stole, he
just hijacked the place, someshit like that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:56:11):
He did Cooper.
Dare you make these accusations?
I'm gonna have you know I drivea good business here.
25 cents a blowjob, and I'll bedamned if these thousand dollars
that I just made be thrown atme.

SPEAKER_00 (01:56:24):
I got a thousand dollars and thirty-five cents.
I don't know where that extra 10cents came from.
That was a tip.

SPEAKER_06 (01:56:37):
He lost the jet.

SPEAKER_03 (01:56:40):
And there's a column.
But um, I don't know.
I mean, and do you think hesurvived then?
What do you think?
You think he survived?
I ain't gonna lie.
He had everything calculated,bro.

SPEAKER_00 (01:56:50):
There's not a lot of times I'm gonna root for the bad
guy.
But this is one of them times heain't hurt nobody.
He ain't, he, he ain't he wastedthe time on a couple people, but
let's be honest.
I don't want to be done, but I'mjust playing.
But you know, it wasn't itwasn't a violent crime, you

(01:57:11):
know, it was a well-thought outplan, and he got away with it.
He got away with it, and he gotaway with it.
So I hope he did make it a lot.
I hope he enjoyed that money.
I hope I hope he'll slide me acool 50 bands in today's money.

SPEAKER_06 (01:57:29):
And today's money.

SPEAKER_00 (01:57:34):
So 50 bands.
Um yeah, I I just I no pop butcan he still be alive for your
tank leave?
He was 40-ish around that time.
Is it what 20 years since then?

SPEAKER_05 (01:57:47):
1971.

SPEAKER_00 (01:57:49):
Oh, 1971, never mind.
It's been 40-ish.
Nah, he's gone.

SPEAKER_05 (01:57:54):
He old.

SPEAKER_00 (01:57:54):
He either old as shit or he's gone.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:57:57):
No, he's old, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:57:58):
Yeah, so that's why that dude was saying, yeah,
that's why that dude was saying.
Yeah, he was 40 in 1971.

SPEAKER_05 (01:58:04):
Oh no, he's gone, bro.
90 years old, ain't no way, bro.
Ain't no way.

SPEAKER_00 (01:58:09):
Hey, look, I I know some 90 year olds that smoke a
pack a day.
So, maybe, nah, bruh.
Fuck it.
Nah, no, no good man like thatlives that long, bro.
No need to.
No need to.
No hero, no hero lives thathero.
No hero lives that long, bro.
Because everybody knows youeither die here.
Or lit some shit like that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:58:29):
Or live long enough to steal a plane.

SPEAKER_03 (01:58:31):
To still a plane.

SPEAKER_05 (01:58:32):
To hijack a plane.
To hijack a plane.

SPEAKER_00 (01:58:34):
Okay.
There you go.
There you go.
But no, uh, I really do hope.
I really do hope he actuallymade it out.
It's it gives me motivation, youknow.
It gives me it gives me hopethat I too that I too will be
able to achieve some mastermindplan like this.
Well, I told you, but I waswalking to that Wolfswagger
about that first camera I seenin my mind.

(01:58:57):
Yep.
I got to sell the plane.

SPEAKER_06 (01:59:02):
Freaking airport bars made from here.

SPEAKER_00 (01:59:05):
Just for this Wolfswagger, right?
Open up the bank here.
Sigga like$35.

SPEAKER_01 (01:59:12):
Ooh.

SPEAKER_05 (01:59:14):
What's it gonna say?
Um the fuck, what's it gonnasay?
Damn it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:59:23):
On how you felt about it?
Like if you can survive.

SPEAKER_05 (01:59:26):
I'm gonna wrap it up real quick.
I feel like he probably didsurvive.
I'm more believable, like Ibelieve it more, because he was
so calculated that I believe hewould have recon the area or
some shit beforehand.
Generally speaking, maybe.
Yeah.
Like maybe use some type oflandmark or something.
It's like, you know what?

SPEAKER_00 (01:59:44):
Or like he knew he was supposed to get one of those
houses and he had equipment, ormaybe, you know, that was that's
that was his meeting point.
Something.
Yeah, but I I believe it.
Like, I don't think the last fewcouple steps, I don't feel like
he didn't plan them out.
I feel like everything was.
Clearly everything wascalculated all the way through.
So yeah, I I host her though.

(02:00:06):
I host that shit, like I said.
But like like that dude, I mean,like that dude on his deathbed
that was confessing to him beingDB Cooper.
I don't know.
It could have been, it couldn't,I don't know, but um I don't
know.
Hopefully he's had a good life,made it out.
You know, shit, shit.
When your thousand 1971, thatboy was a millionaire, if you

(02:00:30):
will.

SPEAKER_05 (02:00:32):
He was wrenched loaded, bro.
He was loaded.
But um, I don't know.
Y'all let us know what y'allthink.
Let us know if y'all have anyinformation about it, or let us
know if y'all uncle was uh DanDan Cooper.

SPEAKER_03 (02:00:42):
Dan Cooper, let us know.
Or if your grandma or grandpaknew somebody, like, yeah.
Your grandma probably got fuckedwith that Cooper.

SPEAKER_00 (02:00:51):
Maybe that old ladies, but I remember.
I remember it was a young man.
I used to let him caress mynipples.
And he used to tell me he wasDan Cooper.

SPEAKER_03 (02:01:00):
Grandma! Let's see.
Grandma, shut the fuck up,grandma.

SPEAKER_05 (02:01:03):
If they it was 1971, so let's just say someone was 20
years old at the time.
1971 to today's time.
What does that make them?

SPEAKER_00 (02:01:12):
At that time, 20 years old.
Right now it'd be like around40-ish.

unknown (02:01:16):
40-ish?

SPEAKER_00 (02:01:17):
1971, around 40-ish, 50-ish?

SPEAKER_05 (02:01:20):
To today's time.

SPEAKER_00 (02:01:21):
To today's time, right?
Well, I got you, I got you.

SPEAKER_05 (02:01:24):
20.

SPEAKER_00 (02:01:25):
20, 25, minus.
We don't do math in public.
1971.
54.

SPEAKER_03 (02:01:31):
I was close.
I was halfway there, really.
I was.
I was 54?

SPEAKER_00 (02:01:36):
54.

SPEAKER_05 (02:01:37):
Oh, okay.
That'd be like.
So I was just thinking, like, ifsomebody was like, I don't know.
Like alive or whatever at thetime.
Like, what age range would bemore like likely to still be
somewhat like alive or like saneat the time to like.
Because you know, once you getto a certain age, you're like

(02:01:57):
you start.

SPEAKER_00 (02:01:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (02:01:58):
It's like nothing but like 70 year olds, 80 year
olds were alive at the time.
Like, I remember when thishappened.
No, you don't.
Take your meds, go to sleep, andstop shitting on the floor.

SPEAKER_03 (02:02:12):
Go to sleep.
We got bingo tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 (02:02:14):
Shit and your diaper, man.

SPEAKER_03 (02:02:15):
Stop taking that shit off.
No, I don't know what a freakoff is.
Get away from me.

SPEAKER_00 (02:02:23):
All the people be a little they'd be free, man.
I'd tell you.

SPEAKER_05 (02:02:27):
Right.
But I don't know.
Like, like I said, y'all let usknow what y'all think.
Let us know if y'all have anyinformation we might have
missed.
Let us know what.
Let us know if y'all have anytopics for us to talk about or
something that y'all want us to.
Anything else y'all want us todiscuss?
Like, I don't know.
The political climate ofsomething.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (02:02:46):
The social economic stand of rats.

SPEAKER_05 (02:02:52):
The hierarchy among the rats or the rat people.

SPEAKER_00 (02:02:57):
The rat colony.
Mmm.
The rat pyre.

SPEAKER_05 (02:03:02):
What is a rat?

SPEAKER_00 (02:03:04):
What it?
What is a rat?

SPEAKER_05 (02:03:05):
Sometimes for the big question, can you eat a rat?

SPEAKER_00 (02:03:09):
Can a rat eat you or not?

SPEAKER_03 (02:03:12):
Eat a but uh like I said, y'all let us know what
y'all think.

SPEAKER_05 (02:03:21):
We appreciate y'all uh coming back and listening to
the episodes.
Whenever I do end up uploadingthis episode, again, please
forgive me.
I'll be better.
Look, if y'all really want theepisodes of stuff to come out,
donate.
Donate some money.
Don't dead ass.
Dead ass.
Get this man Yayo a PC.
And I'll just pass the torch tohim.
Yayo, you do this.

(02:03:42):
Donate.

SPEAKER_00 (02:03:42):
I at least.
Let me tell you, well, my I atleast need$200,000.

SPEAKER_03 (02:03:48):
And I want in a bag.
And I want six parachutes and Ineed a plane to go from here all
the way to all the way to Mexicoto Japan.

SPEAKER_00 (02:03:57):
Because when I get those$200,000 cash.
I ain't gonna say I'm gonna runoff with it.

SPEAKER_05 (02:04:07):
But uh again, big shout out to everybody that
tunes in.
You know, we appreciate the loveand support y'all get us.
Give us, sorry, not get us.
Well, get us like from sharingand everything.
Yep.
But um thank y'all so much foralways tuning in.
Thank y'all for alwayslistening.
Thank you for just being there,I guess, for allowing us to try
and entertain y'all with thissmall time that we take, even
though it's like two hours oftime that we take.

(02:04:28):
It's small two hours, really.
But again, shout out to y'all,you know, we really much
appreciate it.
We love y'all so much.
Shout out to my cousin Pepe.
I'm sorry.
I know you were looking forwardto the episode.
I'm sorry I didn't get it out.
Shout out to my girlfriend, youknow.
Hopefully you catch up to thisepisode that we can laugh about
it when you I heard you say thisand that, and I thought it was

(02:04:49):
funny.

SPEAKER_03 (02:04:49):
I thought I thought it was funny too.
I thought it was funnyhilarious.
That's why I fucking laugh.
No, but what you got, bro?

SPEAKER_00 (02:04:56):
Oh, your shout out, Sammy.
Shout out to fam.
Oh that's it really.
That's it.
That's it, really.

SPEAKER_05 (02:05:02):
All right, I guess we'll catch you on the next
episode.
So peace.
Peace.
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