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September 11, 2025 21 mins
Is this what we've become? A society of haters who believe that murder is okay as long as it suits their purposes? This week, Kim discusses recent events, where it seems that violence is okay, as long as you're taking out someone who doesn't look like you, or someone you don't agree with. This is an opinion episode rather than a regular episode. A new regular episode is coming in a few days. Thanks for listening. 
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hi, everyone. It's Kim from Katsu Killer's Homicide and Sweet Tea,
and I'm sorry I didn't get an episode out before
I left for vacation, but I'm going to make up
for it. I promise today's episode it's going to be
a special edition sort of thing, and it's going to
be about some current events. And if that's going to

(00:42):
bother you, I totally understand. And I will have a
new episode, regular episode out in a few days, so
we can talk about that then. But right now, I
just want to go into some current events. I feel
moved to talk to you guys about a couple of
recent things happened in the last couple of weeks that
I think we all need to look at and search

(01:04):
ourselves for answers because these two awful events are making
the news, well some of them are making the news.
So this podcast is going to be pretty much unscripted
with a few facts thrown in and a lot of opinion.
So if you can't handle a difference of opinion that
you may have with me about this, really sorry, but
this I just felt that I felt called to say

(01:26):
this today. If that's not your jam, I totally understand,
Like I said, there'll be a new regular episode out
in the next few days, so feel free to tune
into that. This past week or two, it was really
shaken my belief that most of us are good people inside.
I still believe that, but you know, it's getting harder

(01:48):
and harder every day as I watch things that are
going on around us, and you know, it makes me
reminisced back when I was younger, and we all got
along or seemed to get along. We all have good
time together. It didn't matter what color you were, it
didn't matter what your faith was, it didn't matter what
you felt, what kind of person you felt drawn to.

(02:11):
We didn't care. We just had a good time. And
you would think, I guess that I didn't have this
opinion that there's good in somebody and good in everybody,
And you would think that that's been quashed over the
last few years that I've done true crime podcast and
do a murder every week and serial killers and things

(02:33):
like that. And I can't believe I'm saying this right now,
but I'm starting to give up on people in general.
I hate that. I want to believe someone everybody, even
the bad people, have something good in them. But it's
getting harder and harder to do. Anyway, Let's get started

(02:53):
with the story of a young twenty three year old
Ukrainian immigrant who fled her home land for safety in
the midst of this Russian invasion and the war that
started there. I have a daughter who will be twenty
three soon, so this sort of really hit home with
me as a mother. Arena Zurutska came to this country

(03:15):
in twenty twenty two when the war broke out in Ukraine.
Like I said, she came with her mother, brother, and sister,
and they went to live in the community of Charlotte,
North Carolina. Irena dreamed she was going to community college,
paying her way through by working at a pizza joint,
and she dreamed of becoming a veterinary tech. One day

(03:37):
she was working her way through, like I said, and
she walked neighbors dogs, She did favors for people. She
seemed to be from every account about her from neighbors
and friends, a very very good person. Now enter de
Carlos Brown. Brown had fourteen convictions under his belt, the

(03:58):
last one for armed robbery, and after every conviction of
those fourteen convictions, he was let out. Now it was
well known that Brown had a mental illness. He had schizophrenia.
He didn't control his schizophrenia. Instead, he was out on
the street. He was disturbed. At the time that this happened.

(04:22):
His mother recalled him coming to her house to spend
the night and she led him and then the next
morning she took him to a homeless shelter. So you
know there's something going on right there when a mother
doesn't let her son stay at home. They knew that
he had these problems, and his mother said she was
trying to get him help. She was trying to get
him a bed in a mental institution, but she wasn't

(04:44):
having any luck. And I don't doubt that he's not
the first person that I've heard the mother say that
about that they were trying to get them help, but
they just couldn't. And that's another subject, probably for another time.
But the mayor, Charlotte and the family are blaming the
murder on the court system for letting him out over

(05:05):
and over and over again. And I gotta say I agree.
Charlotte has a crime problem, and a lot of the
crime problem is recidivism. People doing things over and over
and over again and still getting let out and being
able to do things again and again and again. But
you know, the bottom line is that de Carlo Brown

(05:27):
is to blame for this murder. Arena got on after work.
She got on the train to go home, as she
usually did, and she sat down in an empty row
in front of de Carlo Brown. About four or five
minutes into the ride, he stood up. At first, he
leaned over and he put his head on the seat

(05:47):
that she was sitting in, and then he stood up.
He raised his arm and arked down a knife and
stabbed her and stabbed her and stabbed her. Then he
left the train mumbling, I killed dhahite bitch, or something
to that effect. I'm not sure the exact words. I
couldn't find them when I was getting on here. And

(06:08):
really this is an opinion piece, it's not factual piece,
so we'll get to that later when he goes on trial.
What disturbed me the most, though, and that's a lot
to say considering the crime, was the fact that the
people who were sitting around her and behind her did nothing.

(06:31):
Their apathy was astounding. She lay there, She laid there
with big, huge eyes, trying to comprehend what had happened
to her. She leaned over in the chair. She didn't
know what was going on. She was trying to stench
the blood flow herself. And these people sat there, They

(06:54):
didn't do a thing. One guy moved up a seat
to get off the train. A woman sat there messing
around on her cellphone looking out the window. Two other
people sat in the back and just watched. I understand
them not wanting to get up when he's stabbing this

(07:15):
girl because they were afraid. I get that, But when
he left, somebody, somebody should have gotten up and helped her,
and you didn't. And you know who you are, You
know you were there, and you didn't do a thing
to help this girl. Why was it because she was white?
Was it because you just didn't want to get involved

(07:37):
with something like that? What was your reason for not
doing a thing to help her as she sat there?
And more blame. I'm gonna throw out some more blame
because the mainstream media didn't report on this, not once,
not one thing. I don't want to pull a race
card into it, but when George Floyd was killed, there

(08:00):
was a media frenzy. It was all over the place
for months, and rightfully so. But when this girl got
killed by someone on a train minding her own business.
Not one word from NBC, CBS, ABC, nobody, nobody reported

(08:22):
on it, and shame on them. Shame on them for
not doing a thing. Were they afraid because de Carlo
Brown was black and the girl was white? Were they
afraid that it would be, you know, a counter productive
to their you know, moneymaking or something. I don't know,
but it's a shame that not one of them covered this.

(08:44):
I just happened to find out about it because I
was looking around the internet and saw a post on
Twitter or x or whatever you want to call it.
I want to know how you guys feel about this.
What could you just sit there after someone who had
been stabbed multiple times and they were looking around for help?

(09:06):
Could you just sit there and look away? I know
I couldn't. I don't think it's okay for people to
murder people in any circumstance. I don't think that murder
is okay because your political opinion is different from somebody else.
And that brings us to the next thing that I

(09:28):
want to talk about, which is the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
I was shocked to my core when the news broke
yesterday that conservative activist and debater Charlie Kirk had been shot.
I actually saw the video. It is horrid. I hope

(09:52):
his family and his children never see it. He's sitting
there about to start his usual debate that he does
on college campuses all the time. You may not like him.
I don't agree with everything that he had to say.
You know, I had differences of opinion from him, which
is okay. He gets to have his opinion whether you

(10:12):
like it or not. You get to have your opinion
whether he likes it or not. But every debate I
ever watched with him, he gave an opportunity for the
other side to say their piece and to say what
they wanted to before he started debating them and telling
them his side. He allowed them to have free speech.

(10:33):
He allowed them to come onto the campus and onto
his program, onto his debate thing which he called proved
me wrong, and they had a voice there. They didn't
agree with him, but they had a voice, and he
allowed them to have a voice. If you hadn't watched
any of his things, you can't speak to it. I've

(10:55):
heard a lot of people say, oh, he was a hateful, racist, bigot, blah,
blah blah. He wasn't. And if that tells me when
you say things like that, that you never watched a
single debate, not one. He got a lot of hate.
He had people who would come up to the mic,
who wouldn't shut up, who wouldn't give him a chance

(11:16):
to respond, who just wanted to get up there and say,
I hate you, you're a racist, you're a Nazi, you're
a hateful person, I hate you. Get off my campus,
and things like that. He tolerated it. He didn't send
anybody over there to tackle him to the ground. He
didn't send it. He didn't, you know, yell at them
and scream at them or anything like that. He told

(11:37):
them they were entitled to their opinion, but he didn't agree.
And that is okay, y'all. That's what debate is. Debate
is exchanging ideas. They're exchanging what you feel with someone else.
And you should not be afraid to do that, afraid
that somebody's gonna shoot you in the neck and kill you.

(11:58):
That shouldn't be a fear of your Charlie started turning
Point USA when he was eighteen years old, when he
was still in high school, and made it into a
huge organization across the world. It's not just Turning Point USA.
There's Turning Point UK and a lot of other Turning

(12:19):
Point chapters across the world. He wanted to tell kids
his age that they didn't need to go into debt
to go to college if they had something like he did.
That you interested them that he had, that they had
a talent that didn't require a college degree. It didn't
always mean that they needed to go to college. And

(12:42):
he's right, some people have things that they want to
become that don't require college. I personally, mine required college.
I had to go to college, but you know what,
I didn't go to a fancy IVY League college. I
went to a state college. I paid tuition. I didn't
have to go into debt. And of course I'm an

(13:06):
old person, but you know, the dead is commensurate with
the income these days, and I had student loans to
pay when I got out, just like everybody else. I'm not,
like I said, I didn't agree with everything he had
to say, because I do think some people need to
attend college to do what their dream is and to

(13:28):
do what they need to do. I think some people
should go into the military straight out of school because
they don't have a direction, and the military can give
you a great direction and a great after military career
in all kinds of things, even graphic design. I also
am pro choice. I think there are circumstances where women

(13:54):
don't have the opportunity to avoid pregnancy. But I have limits.
The heartbeat and the brainways begin at twelve weeks, and
those are my limits. If you want to go past that,
I don't agree with you, and that's fine. Godd will
strain it all out in the end, is my feeling,
and I'm not going to judge people. But Charlie had

(14:17):
a lot of really good points, and I admired the
fact that he would respectfully debate, like I said, until
the person started screaming and yelling and calling him names
and spewing hate directed at him personally, and even on
occasion threats, he just quietly sat there and let them
go on and on until they stomped away. I read

(14:39):
a lot of vitriol today and yesterday on posts about
his death, about how he deserved it, about how he
thought gun violence was fine. Those are not correct quotes,
they are partial quotes, and he never believed gun violence
was fine. He made it an offhand remark that sometimes

(15:00):
it's necessary, but he never said he agreed with it.
We always always seem to get incomplete truths and incomplete
facts when people go out there and spread their vitriol
and their hatred toward a person. And I'm sorry, karma sucks,
but I'm afraid you're going to get some if you
don't stop this behavior. Calling people fascists because they don't

(15:26):
agree with you makes you the fascist. I hate to
tell you. Fascists murder people who don't agree with them.
Fascists silenced the opposition. Charlie didn't do any of that.
In fact, he encouraged them to speak. It was obvious
that a lot of these people had never watched a

(15:47):
Charlie Kirk video. They just regurgitated things that they'd read
in memes or things that they'd been told. I hope,
like I said, his wife and kids never see those videos.
And I pray for the people who were there and
witnessed it. They must be traumatized, even those who didn't
agree with him. And I pray for the people filled

(16:10):
with so much hate that they feel the need to
spread these hateful comments about a man murdered because they
didn't agree with his opinions. I mean, look around you
right now. If the person who did this thought he
was silencing Charlie kirk Ah, he's wrong, He's wrong. There's

(16:33):
a picture out of him now. He looks like he's
probably a college student, maybe could even be a girl.
It's hard to tell for me anyway. But if he
thought he was silencing the message, instead he united the people.
A lot of people that I know from both sides,
think this is abominable and they think this person should

(16:55):
be brought to justice quickly. Of course, you have others who,
like I said, spread their hate and vitriol all over
the internet. They cannot stand the fact that someone disagreed
with them. And that is the participation trophy generation right
there in a nutshell. They've been taught that whatever they

(17:17):
say is the best and they need to have everyone
agree with them because they just know everything. And this
used to be the case with pretty much all generations.
We all thought we knew better than our parents. But
we didn't murder people because of it. We didn't celebrate

(17:38):
and cheer and dance in the streets because of it.
We had a little bit more class than that. Sod
All you class as assholes out there who thought it
would be funny and thought it was funny that someone
was murdered yesterday. Karma sucks. You may find out pretty soon.
I hesitate to say this, but the shot that killed

(18:01):
Charlie Kirk may just have been the next shot that's
heard around the world. Anyway. That's my bitching and moaning
for the day. I'm tired of I'm tired of the hate.
I'm tired of the people who will not And this

(18:23):
is both sides. It's not just one side. It's both sides,
although a lot of it lately has been coming from
the left. If you can't handle somebody's opinion being different
than yours and turn off social media, get out of
it because you have no business being in it. You
cannot handle the world. You need to go into your
little safe space and stay there until you can figure

(18:45):
out how to listen to other opinions and how to
understand that people have a right to disagree with you.
They have the right, and you don't have the right
to kill them. And you don't have to right to
kill somebody because of their race. I don't care if
you're schizophrenic. They have to be taken into account for it.
They have to be penalized for it, and I'm glad

(19:09):
the governor of Utah reiterated that they have the death
penalty there, because I think that's exactly what this little
assassin needs. They don't need to be living among us.
It could be any one of us. It could be
any one of us who does a podcast. If somebody
doesn't agree with us and they hunt us down and
they kill us. I don't know about you. I don't

(19:33):
know about your morality. I don't know you, guys. I
love that you listen to me. I love that you
coming and listen. I wish you'd participate a little more
and maybe do some comments on the blog. But I
would hope that you would never murder somebody because they
didn't agree with you. I've lost friends online, people that

(19:53):
I've known for thirty years because they don't agree with
my opinions on things, and I think that's childish. I
don't don't agree with them either, But do I block
them and get rid of them and delete them from
my phones and my accounts. No, that's their prerogative. If
they don't agree with me, if they don't want to
talk to me, that's fine too. Anyway, you guys have

(20:14):
a great weekend. I'll have a new episode out soon,
probably Monday, maybe sooner, it depends. But just keep his family,
his wife and two little kids, I mean toddlers. Keep
them in your thoughts, say maybe a prayer if you
believe in that they've got a tough road ahead. He's
not there anymore. He's not coming home. H
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