August 2, 2025 • 43 mins
Ever feel like you are stuck while everyone else seems to be moving forward?
This episode kicks off with a listener question that hits home. A 29-year-old feels like his friends are ahead in life with careers, families, and homes. Kyle gives it to us straight. The truth is you are not behind. You are just measuring your progress with someone else's scoreboard.
From there, we dive into the story of Tyron Smith. From a quiet kid in Moreno Valley to an elite NFL tackle, Tyron seemed to have it all. But behind the scenes, he was fighting to protect something deeper. His peace. His boundaries. His future.
This one is not just about football. It is about healing from family pressure, making hard choices, and refusing to let guilt write your story.
💬 What You Will Hear:
- Why feeling behind is often a story you have been sold
- How Tyron Smith rose to the top through discipline and quiet strength
- The emotional weight of setting boundaries with family
- A closing challenge to take one bold step toward protecting your peace
“You do not owe anyone access to the parts of you they keep trying to break.” – Kyle
If you have ever felt stuck, unheard, or unsure of your next move, this episode is for you.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome back to Kyle Talks, where I'm Kyle and we
talk.
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Yo, yo, yo, what it doobiedoobie do in these streets on my
boys and girls.
Hello, beautiful people.
How's it going?
Thank you guys so much.
Welcome back to the Kyle Talkspodcast where I'm Kyle and we
talk.
I don't know if you guys cantell.
I'm really excited to talk toyou guys today.
I'm really excited.
Yeah, you guys are good.
Thank you.
Before we jump to the episode,whatever you're doing, whether
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you're listening to this on yourway to work, your way from home,
you're doing your morning walk.
A lot of people reached out tome a lot.
We're not talking like jokes,but a significant amount of
people reached out and said theynow listen to the show for those
who walk or work out, mainlywalk in the morning, which is
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kind of cool.
You're hearing this beautifulvoice at 6 a.m., which is cool,
or whatever time you walk.
That's pretty cool.
Thanks.
I appreciate that, guys.
With that, I just thank you forthe love and support we've been
getting for this podcast lately.
We've been...
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Yeah, I mean, I know I say thisall the time.
I don't say this to detract fromthe progress we make.
We're no Joe Rogan yet.
Notice that keyword.
But man, having people interact,share.
I have people leaving commentson Spotify.
That's insane.
You guys are leaving reviewswith words and you guys are
sharing the reels and stuff.
(01:46):
By the way, follow me atKyleTheHorton on X and Instagram
for reels, little snippets.
You know how that goes.
But man, it's crazy.
Kind of cool.
A little bit surreal to seethat.
So I'm very appreciative.
We've come far and we still gota lot to go.
But thank you for the love.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for interacting.
Thank you guys so much.
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Me and unofficial producer Rioreally do appreciate it.
Shout outs to him.
This show can't happen.
He's literally my secondhand manfor this show.
And so.
Yeah, thank you guys.
Thank you.
What's new?
You guys know I love to yapbefore boss and before the
topic.
What's new?
Are you ready for this?
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Nothing.
Nothing really much.
Devoting.
Well, here's what's new.
Here's what's new.
I am getting more and more intoreels and making reels, putting
them out there.
I'm getting a...
A recorded format of the versionof these episodes ready.
(02:49):
So I don't know when I'm notgoing to tell you when because I
don't know when that will come.
But getting that on the podcastso you can see my face and I can
see your face and we can leavecomments on YouTube.
We're getting that ready.
Working with, of course,unofficial producer Rio for
that.
And guys, it's just thank you somuch.
Yeah, it's by the way, my reels.
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I said thank you like three,four million times, but it's
true.
UNKNOWN (03:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (03:15):
What do you guys think of my reels?
If you're not following me onInstagram or X, Twitter,
whatever you want to call it,follow me at Kyle LaHorton.
I'm putting out a reel a week,little short clips from the show
to give you more of an idea ofwhat behind the scenes look
like.
You get a little sneak peek ofthis week's episode.
So let me know what you guysthink.
(03:35):
I wouldn't say it's not good,but it's not the top tier.
You know what I mean?
I'm still learning, so be...
gentle with me i'm stilllearning if you have tips i will
genuinely take them like i'm notin a position to turn down if
you have tips please let me knowum i will listen to you and if
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you have good tips i'm here youknow where to find me um but
yeah just more focusing on thepodcast lately you guys are
taking it more serious clearlyum the listener audience taking
it more serious so i gotta applygame and take it more serious um
i have been taking it seriousbut it's like I don't know.
It's like real recognizes theworld.
You get what I'm saying?
Like I have.
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But it's also like, oh, likewe're really I don't know if
that makes sense.
But yeah, I'm grateful and it'sa cool feeling.
But yeah, that's about it.
Nothing crazy, too crazy new.
Carson, he's a hit in all thereveals.
I think I'll keep on using him.
We'll have him on the podcastone day to give us his thoughts
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about puppy food.
But yeah, that's it.
That's it.
That's it for my yet.
Nothing new.
I'm just grateful.
And I'm really excited to jumpinto today's boss segment and
jump into today's topicepisodes.
So let's do it.
This segment is called Boss, ourbefore opening show segment.
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This podcast is awesome.
All about, oh, I didn't e-sellout.
That's okay.
I'll do it now.
This podcast is all about peoplewho don't think the same, dress
the same, believe the same, praythe same, vote the same, do
nothing the same, and we stillhave conversations.
That's the whole reason for thispodcast is disagree on
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everything, but agree ontalking.
That's the whole premise of thispodcast.
We've lost the art of havingconversations.
We've lost the art of sittingdown and disagreeing with
someone.
And Gen Z, which I am a proudmember of, we're going to bring
that back.
We're going to bringconversations back and sit down
and have those hardconversations with people.
Check out episode 156.
If that intrigues you, you'lllove that episode.
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So check out 156.
I'm really excited for whatwe're building here and the
community that we're building.
So with that in mind, If this isyour first time here, please
give yourself a pat on the back.
If this is your millionth timehere, welcome to Kyle Talks
Studio in sunny Los Angeles,California, where the White Claw
and LaCroix flow like honey.
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My favorite, Pamplemousse, butLemoncello, hello, come on,
someone gotta love Lemoncelloout there.
People, I've gotten hate, youlike White Claws?
I don't know, I'm feelinghealthier than you are.
I hate to say it, but it's true.
I'm feeling good about myself.
I'll drink my$80 carbonatedalcohol water,$80, my 80 calorie
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carbonate.
Go ahead.
Have your 600 calorie wheat.
Go ahead.
Hey, sorry.
That got intense because I havebeen getting, you guys have been
reaching out and saying like,it's disgusting.
I'm like white call.
I mean, I'm being called basicwhite and I'm half white, so
it's okay.
But we will not stand for WhiteClaw hatred on this podcast.
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So we'll actually have aconversation.
Anyways, yeah.
So thank you for returning.
If this is your first time here,welcome.
If you've been here multipletimes, welcome.
And then that's the core of ourshow.
Disagreeing on everything, butagreeing on talking.
With that in mind, this podcastis all about community
conversations.
And if I didn't have a segmentwhere it gave us an opportunity
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to have a conversation, I'd be asham, a charlatan.
And whatever other words you canthink of.
So what bosses stands for beforeopening show and gives us a
moment for me to read yourquestion and just have a, it's a
bro to bro talk.
I'm only 28 years young.
I don't know what I don't knowyet.
I'm still learning.
I'm still figuring out theworld.
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Um, so this is just anopportunity for us to have a
conversation.
We've had stuff about going tofield trips, life choices, money
in the Netherlands, um, Topicranges from serious to not
serious to everything.
It's just an opportunity for usto have a conversation.
If you would like to send yourquestion in, send it in to
KyleTalksPodcast at gmail.comand put Boss, B-O-S-S in the
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subject line and then yourquestion for a chance to get
read live on air.
Well, I feel like I said a lotthere.
Don't worry.
I got LaCroix, Pamplemousse nextto me in the ticket.
Quick sip.
Ah, oh yeah, boys, we're doinggood.
So let's jump into today's bossquestion.
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This question comes from a loyalviewer who says, can you please
not say my name?
I got, he says it in bold.
You bold and italicized it atthe top.
W, I got you.
I will not say your name.
And it's not like we're,anyways, yeah, thank you for
sending your question.
I just have any side thoughts.
Appreciate you saying it.
The question goes, Hello, Kyleand super unofficial producer
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Rio.
Super.
Huh.
Be super now.
All right.
Got it.
Let's move on.
I really I really appreciate thevibe and I'm not I think I'm
only a few months older thanyou.
So I not even a full yearalmost, though.
But I have a question for youfrom one guy to another.
Perfect.
I do kind of vet these questionsbeforehand.
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I don't really read it, read it,ask it.
So let's jump in.
I'm a little bit older than you,not even a year, but I feel like
I'm OK.
OK, I'm twenty nine and I feellike everyone around me is is
doing so much more than I am.
That could literally mean thatcould literally mean careers.
Some people I know havefamilies, parentheses.
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They are cute, though, endquote, end parentheses.
Some people my age are buyinghouses.
That completely ruins my day.
Me too, brother.
And I feel I don't know what Idon't even know what to know.
I hope that makes sense.
I don't know what to do.
I'm not I'm not inferring thatyou have it all together, but
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you do talk about this a lot.
And you've had some guests inthe past like Jack, which I
really enjoyed.
Hi mom, hello everyone.
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And Kyle, you always say, do youknow me?
You kind of know me.
You've said hi to me one timewhen we worked at Lowe's in
Fresno.
But that's about it.
Anyways, appreciate you.
Keep it real.
Until real, I said hi.
That, I like that.
That's like a real, yo, what'sgoing on, dude?
I've worked with you at Lowe's.
No, you said I said hi to you.
Maybe I worked with you.
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I'm not sure.
But what's up?
Hope you're doing well, big dog.
I'm in SoCal now.
I'm in Los Angeles.
Man, working at Lowe's reallywas great.
Working at Lowe's, I really hada good time working at Lowe's.
That was really a good time, tobe honest.
Shout out to anyone from Lowe'slistening.
I have a Lowe's story that Iwant to tell, but I'm saving it.
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It's a good story.
It's a good story.
I've posted it on some commentsections in YouTube on certain
videos.
So there's that.
If you can find it, I doubt youcan, but I have.
And I have a great little storyto tell one day.
But let's jump into yourquestion.
I appreciate you for sendingthat question in, by the way.
Super real.
Yeah, brother, you may be 29,not even a full year, but we're
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the same age.
For all intents and purposes,we're the same age.
And genuinely, when you saidwhen people buy houses, that
ruins my day too.
Because I'm 28.
We're the same age, essentially.
And...
When I see people buying houses,I'm like, all right, hate you.
Block, ignore, next.
It's true.
Like, I get it.
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I get it.
But your real question is likefeeling stuck and everyone else
is doing cool stuff.
Can I say me too?
Like, is that okay for me tosay?
Like, I feel like that too.
And I think, you know, shout outto the great...
Oh my gosh, what's his name?
I know who he is.
He does the NFTs, Vee Friends.
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He's really an amazing, he's anamazing person.
Gary, Gary Vee, Gary Vee.
I forgot his last name, but GaryVee.
He's an amazing man.
And I was actually filming likethis, asking official producer
Rio.
I was talking to, this was awhile ago.
I was like, man, I feel like,you know, the podcast, I just
lost my job at that time.
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Like, I got no kind of emotion.
And he was talking to me, andsome Gary Vee memes, reels, came
up.
I don't use CCP talk, sorry.
That's a whole otherconversation.
But anyways, Gary Vee came up,and this lady was like, and I'm
sure you've seen it.
It's popular.
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But she was like, oh, yeah, I'mposting every day, Gary.
And just so you know, one dayI'll be somebody.
And he turns around, and he'slike, Oh, that's the point.
You are someone right now.
You are somebody.
And that was like.
Dang, I kind of hit me likethat's when when you just see it
and you can't relate, it feelsgood.
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But when you see something likethat and can relate to it, it
like it brings on a whole newmeaning.
So for me, that was like, yeah,I needed to hear that
personally.
I mean, I'm sure you know whoGary Vee is.
Obviously, he's freaking hugeand amazing man.
I would say look stuff.
Look, look to him a lot becauseyou've had people who have come
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on his podcast and his reels andbeen like, dude, I'm only like
40.
I'm 36.
I feel like I'm he's like, dude,you just getting started.
Yeah, we're just gettingstarted.
Big dog, my friend.
We're just we're still in our20s and 30s.
From what I'm told, the 30s arejust like your 20s with more
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money and you're a little bitmore mature.
So we still got a whole notherdecade of being young.
Once you get 40, you know,that's just I'm just being
serious.
But we still have to finish our20s strong.
And then we have our whole 30swith more money and a bit more
maturity.
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So we have time, big friend.
I don't know.
I don't have specific advice foryou because we're One man to
another, one bro to another, onefriend to another.
Yeah, look up people that saylike, hey, you are somebody,
Gary V.
Or you're just getting started.
What are you talking about?
And also the other thing isdon't compare.
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It's super cheesy.
I know, I know.
But comparison genuinely is thethief of joy.
Oh, this person has a biggerpodcast.
This person has...
two kids already or a house howdo they afford a house like yes
it's like they're doing greatand like you're happy for them
and not at the same time so i iget it um as someone who's done
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it i get it but we can't compareto ourselves like we're doing
our own thing they're killing itwhatever it is um Yeah.
And then my last piece, and thisis, you guys know I love
practical advice.
This is something that was toldto me by a mentor, and I try to
keep in my head every day.
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Just do something every day thatgives you one step closer to
your goal.
If it happens overnight, good.
Spoiler alert, it's probably notgoing to happen overnight.
But do something...
You only got to do one thing aday that gets you closer to your
goal.
So for me, I had a businessteacher tell me that.
And then my mentor told me thatsame thing, different wording,
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same thing.
So for me, I do three things.
One, I better myself physically.
That means going to the gym, etcetera.
Two, I better myselfspiritually, which you guys know
I'm a Christian.
I would implore that you tryJesus because he loves you more
than you understand.
But if Christianity is not yourthing.
Hey, that's okay.
This is a space for everyone,even if we disagree.
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Something spiritually has to bebigger than you.
And mentally, reading a book,understanding cosmic equations,
something like that.
Do something to better yourselfphysically, spiritually, and
mentally.
That's what I do every day, andthey add up.
Nothing's going to change thefirst time or the seventh time
or the 26th time.
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But stuff will start to changelike the 100th time you do that,
200th time, the thousands, youknow, things like that.
So that's my advice for you.
Thank you for sending thatquestion.
I hope that was at least somekind of helpful, but I get it,
my friend.
Trust me.
You and me, my friend.
Yeah, trust me.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
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So thank you for sending in thatquestion.
If you would like to send inyour own question, please send
it in to KyleTalksPodcast atgmail.com and put Boss, B-O-S-S
in the subject line for a chanceto read it.
Now, you've read the title.
You know what this is about.
But speaking of doing one thingevery day just to get to your
goal, bettering yourself in someway and not comparison.
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And in the vein of the show,hearing...
Regular people doingextraordinary things.
I want to talk about one of myfavorite stories and really the
story that has spoken me to akid till now.
We're going to talk aboutchanging your story.
And that brings us to today'sepisode.
It's all about a man who hadnothing.
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Zero, zip, nada, zero.
Born in Nowhere Town,Loserville, which I'm actually
pretty close to.
Yeah.
but kept fighting and turnedsomething regular,
non-extraordinary into somethingextraordinary, and then had to
turn around and fight for hisown personal peace.
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And this is the story of TyronSmith.
I like this story a lot.
It's one of my favorite stories,and I think you and me,
especially with that bossquestion, I think this fits in
perfectly and fits the vibe ofthe show.
And what we want to do with theshow, before we jump in, I'll
remind you, the show is aboutnot thinking, drinking, looking,
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praying, dressing, eating thesame and still having good
conversations.
And what comes from that?
Hearing the stories of regularpeople doing extraordinary
things.
And I want to talk about aregular person who did something
extraordinary.
He became to be an NFL player,but.
regular person in his originsand his roots and where he grew
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up um so i want to talk aboutthe story and what we can learn
from it from tyron smith um heis well tyron smith is a former
retired um left tackle he spentthe majority of his career
within the cowboys and outsideof that he wants the jets for a
little bit uh l jets um but heretired as a cowboys player some
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accomplishments and accolades hewas the left tackle um which may
sound familiar because i playedleft tackle in collegiate ball
and he was my story tyron smithwas my story um so he was the
cornerstone of the cowboysoffensive and you guys thinking
oh sports no if even if youdon't love sports this has
nothing to do with sports butthis has everything to do with
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mentality so stick around evenif you don't like sports this
has nothing to do with it stickaround But what did he do?
Smith, he was the cornerstone.
And I was raised watching himplay.
He truly was the lineman offensefor the Cowboys.
He was the left tackle.
He earned not only one, not two,not three, not four, not five,
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not six, not seven, but eightPro Bowl selections.
And he was the first teamplayer.
All pro in his honors.
He dealt with a lot of injuriesthroughout his career, mainly
with his leg.
He always had differentenergies, but he was the
cornerstone 14 years in the NFL,majority spent with the Cowboys,
left tackle, legendary, changedhow their offense worked and
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their offense revolved aroundTyron.
He's a legendary, one of thebest linemen, in my opinion,
super dedicated, worked hard,and he started from...
Nothing.
How do you get there?
This is the part where I want totell.
So how Tyron, this is all aboutregular people doing something,
something extraordinary.
So Tyron Smith, he was born in1990.
So he's seven years older thanme.
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So if I'm 28, 29, 30, 31, 32,33, he's 35 and he spent 14
seasons in the NFL.
You do the math on that.
And he was born in MorenoValley, California.
Which is kind of crazy.
The MoVal Mall sucks.
So yeah, he was raised with aboring mall.
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I've been there.
I don't like going to the MorenoValley Mall.
It kind of sucks to be superhonest with you.
Yeah, I go to Moreno Valley toshop for at Aldi's and Costco
sometime.
Am I doxing myself?
I don't know, but it's a prettygood Costco.
But the mall sucks.
induces depression.
And what's significant aboutthis, he was born to, well,
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significant and unfortunate.
He was born to a single motherin a working home.
So mom was usually gone workingone to two jobs just to provide
for Tyron.
At a younger age, he was quiet.
He didn't really do much inschool, but he was disciplined.
And who knows, that came fromhis mom.
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Parents, you are important.
Growing up and see his mom dothat.
Very driven.
He didn't really talk too muchgrowing up, but he was very loud
on the field in athletics.
He went to Rancho Verde HighSchool.
He came great in football, greatin track and field.
He got noticed.
He moved up.
And he ended up going to USC.
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So he wasn't loud.
He wasn't flashy.
But he had something.
And what I want us to take awayfrom this is it doesn't matter
how you start.
Tyron went to do great thingsand be, in my opinion, one of
the best linemen in the game tothis date.
And I'm recording this in 2025.
The best lineman to date in Julyof 2025.
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And I see it going forward.
But he didn't start with a spoonin the mouth.
He didn't start super great.
He didn't start...
Oh, I'm mother.
I would like two caviar, please.
Like he didn't start like that.
That's not maybe there'ssomewhere there is that you did.
I don't know.
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But what I want you and I wantme to pull out from it is I've
had person a I feel stuck.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I don't have all these greattools.
These other people are ahead ofme that it doesn't matter.
We can still do extraordinarythings.
Remember, at this point, he's aregular shmegular person in a
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city that's not too far from mewith a terrible mall with a
single mom working all the time.
And he went, you don't needthese great things.
You don't need all these things.
That's what I want us to takefrom that.
He let he didn't need thosegreat things.
He did definitely feel stuck.
I mean, look at the kids aroundhim.
They had a dad.
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Just that alone makes you feellike, okay, you've had a way
bigger step.
Just that alone.
So he wasn't flashy.
He didn't talk too much.
He wasn't loud.
But he was important on thefield.
He made it happen.
He found something that he'sgood at.
Like what we talked aboutearlier in today's episode,
whatever that is for you, hewent and just did it.
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Moving on.
So high school, all those thingshe did well.
And then he started college.
Really getting discovered whenwe played at USC, University of
the Trojans.
Hey, let's go.
I want to play at this school.
I didn't.
And I want to play there becauseof Tyron Smith.
But Tyron earned a scholarshipto USC, which is, to this day,
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some people might disagree withme, one of the top football
programs.
I'd say maybe the top fourprograms in the country.
He played from the Trojans from2008-2010, starting every single
game, critical positions.
He earned the first team All-Pac10, which is their West
Conference.
If you don't know sports, that'sfine.
He did really good, and he washonored for that and things like
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that.
And he did really good, startedevery single game.
And by the time he was a junior,he was already being scouted as
an NFL prospect.
So a little bit of the LeBronJames.
LeBron went on to high schoolplaying.
I'm not an NBA guy, so forgiveme if I'm wrong.
But I think LeBron startedplaying for the NBA outside of
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high school because he wasreally good.
Tyron Smith started playing...
and was getting scouted hisjunior year almost done with
college, which is super rare,especially for a lineman.
We're talking about being, Iwant to paint this picture.
So nothing grew up, nothingstarts, had nothing, but really
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excelled in the one thing hefound out.
And maybe for you, that onething is artistry.
Maybe that one thing ispodcasting.
Maybe that one thing ispictures, art, something of that
degree.
Maybe that's for you.
He found out what his was.
His just happened to befootball.
And he really ran with it andexcelled in it and did well in
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it.
And by the time he got tocollege, he just kept on
building on what he knew, kepton doing on what he went to
classes, had the girlfriendsthing, you know, the stress, the
parties, things like that.
But he still focused because heknew he had a mom to take care
of.
And that's going to come back tobite him later.
He went to USC, um, Honestly, asone of the better schools, I
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personally, I wanted to gothere.
I didn't.
But here's the really crazypart.
And maybe this will make some ofus feel worse.
When he was being scouted hisjunior year at USC, he wasn't
even 21 yet.
He was 1920.
That kind of hurts.
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But when he turned– so he playedat USC.
He did really good.
He joined the NFL at 20 yearsold.
When he was 20, that means I was13.
When I was 13, he was 20.
He joined the NFL in 2011.
He was the ninth overall pick bythe Dallas Cowboys.
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He was 20.
He became the youngest lineman,starting lineman in his life.
And– What's coming next?
This is the bulk of where I wantto spend our time.
He grew up with nothing.
A single mom working jobs justto provide, get him to school,
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things like that.
And he signed to the NFL.
What comes with that?
Money upon money upon money uponmoney.
He signed a multi-million dollardeal and was immediately in the
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national spotlight.
Now, picture this.
All the things we talked aboutwhere he came from.
He's 20 years old.
He's making millions of dollars.
Signed five million, I think.
Something like that.
Five million dollars just forsigning a piece of paper.
Boom.
Yours.
The world is watching you.
pressure, fame, a mom you wantto support because you did so
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much to help you, a stepdad inthe picture, coming into the
picture.
You're dealing with thesepressures.
You're successful.
And now here's where things kindof churn, unfortunately, for the
worst.
His hard work, his dedicationgot here.
What I want to focus on hisrise.
He did not come from anywherespecial.
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He did not have anything greatto offer but his skill, and he
studied, and he did it, and hecame through, came through, came
through, came through, and thatgot him to where he's 20 years
old being a millionaire becauseof a sport from a single mom in
a working home.
So it doesn't matter where youstart.
You can be a regular person andstill do great things.
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He went on to be in the NFL.
But he was a regular guy goingto school, dealing with being
sick.
He was a regular guy who didn'twant to go to practice some
days, who didn't want to workout some days, who probably
didn't want to fly to somegames.
That's actually kind ofterrible.
Put on different kinds of gear.
Regular person got his coffee orwhatever it is.
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I hope you're seeing the pictureI'm painting here.
Regular guy who went on to dosomething extremely
extraordinary.
One of the best linemen in theworld.
He's 20.
He has millions of dollars.
And here's where the problemskind of took and what makes him
a legend and where he tried.
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As Tyron went and played, he gotreally good.
Cowboys loved him.
Fans loved him.
I loved him as a 13-year-old,14-year-old.
I thought he was great.
He was my star.
People like LeBron.
People like Steph.
I like Tyron Smith.
One of the greatest players evernext to Emmitt Smith.
And he's a millionaire now.
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He's done great things.
Remember, he came from a poorbackground with this single mom.
So as he did well, as he played,as he performed, and as he
became more of a star, he alsogot more demands from his
family.
Family members from all across,literally family members coming
out to him who didn't even know,who didn't interact with him,
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started always asking for money.
constantly asking for money carsjobs financial support and he
kept on kept on and kept onpressuring him for money as a
young kid 20 you're a young kidno idea what you're doing but
you have all this money now andyou have people coming out the
woodworks hey we need money heywe need money hey we need money
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hey we need money hey we needmoney um he gave a few He gave a
couple of millions at first tohis family members, keeping them
going.
And then one day, his mom at thetime and his stepdad wanted a
new house.
So Tyron being a great, a greatson and a great football player
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said, well, great son said,yeah, I'll get you guys a house.
Look, see what you guys like.
I'll buy it for you.
We'll get going.
They looked at houses.
They found a house.
And they came back to Tyrone.
Mom called them.
Hey, son, we found this greathouse that we like.
And then they told him theprice.
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And that price was more than hiscurrent house.
They wanted something more thaneven their son had.
They wanted the bougie, biglife.
And here were the reasons.
When he tried to set boundaries,he said no to that house.
And they tried to guilt triphim, which led him...
which probably honestly causedissues.
A lot of the injury issues thathe had because he's dealing with
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this mounting pressure, not fromfans, but from his own family.
They hit him with, we raisedyou.
We wiped your butt.
You peed on us.
You owe us.
You wouldn't be here at thisschool without us.
You wouldn't be at this pointwithout us.
You needed us to get herebecause we raised you, so you
owe us.
Imagine that constant, constantpressure from family members,
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people who love you, people whowiped your butt when you were a
kid, and getting that constant,constant bereavement from family
and having to put your foot downand say, no, no more.
He was dealing with that whilebeing one of the top athletes.
In addition to that, dealingwith injury after injury after
injury.
I would make the guess there wasso much mentally going on with
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them.
He had to eventually hire aLawyers, he had to get lawyers
present, set boundaries with hisfamily, his own family.
So after this house debacle andmultiple sending no, sending
boundaries, the situation gotmuch worse.
At one point, His family, hisfamily showed up.
They were not invited.
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They were not told to show up toCowboys training camp to
confront them.
So Tyron dealing with this,having to hire lawyers, set
boundaries, keep his head downto focus on something.
How to tell his family, stopreaching out, set boundaries,
home now, essentially like thisis this is done.
We're not doing this anymore.
And they decided, his family,they didn't like that answer.
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So they flew to one of histraining camps and showed up
asking to talk to Tyron.
Which is genuinely crazy.
Escalated beyond that point andit got so bad of the stalking,
seeing him requesting money,trying to contact him with
different phones, emails,different individuals, notes.
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Because he said no.
His family was taking advantageof him financially.
Family saying no.
And it got so intense that heeventually started calling the
police on his own family andfiling orders on his own family
for harassment.
That's not.
What do I try to say?
That's not tough.
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That's heartbreaking.
The people who are supposed toprotect you, the people who
raised you, the people who wipedyour butt, dealt with your throw
up as a kid, watching you growup.
And they're supposed to protectyou no matter how old you are.
They're supposed to protect you.
And he had to separate andprotect himself from the very
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people that are supposed toprotect you.
So you see the picture painting.
Born nothing, nowhere town.
Really did focus on this onething.
Did great.
Had this success in this family.
really start getting weird aboutit.
They start getting really weird,really toxic.
And he was already providing forthem, but they wanted more.
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He was already providing forthem, but they wanted more.
So Tyron, you know, called thepolice.
He cut off access to familymembers.
He had financial advisors andlegal professionals.
He's giving so much money to hisfamily.
They had to stop it and he hadto get the law involved, lawyers
involved.
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He started focusing on therapy,mental health, rebuilding his
trust.
He got into a great relationshipwith this person that's great
for him.
And here's what I want to hear,especially as we're regular
people, especially we're regularpeople, you and me, I assume.
We all started off regular,right?
You and me listening to this.
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And we want to do somethingextraordinary.
We have to have boundaries, andthat's the point.
Heating boundaries.
Saying no is not discriminating.
Saying no is not hurting.
It hurts their feelings.
So be it.
Saying no is boundaries are notbetrayal.
You can love people and stillsay this is no more for me.
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So after all this, after thehot, the lawyers, advisors,
things like that, he continueddominating.
NFL.
He had eight Pro Bowls.
He was in the all-team, and hewas respected league-wide for
his character and his ethic.
Now, someone doing crazy likethis, you don't really hear
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about, like, oh, yeah, they'rejust going through a lot.
Or, oh, yeah, his character isstarting to break down because
of this, whatever it may be.
He remained and kept hischaracter in the face of
scrutiny.
And we have to do that sometimeswhen we face really hard things.
He doesn't really speak aboutthe situation now.
As he's retired, he's older,he's moved on.
It's kind of said and done now.
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But he was in an ESPN interview,I believe.
And this was more recent, likefour or five years ago.
He was in an ESPN interview, andthey asked him, like, what are
you most proud of that you didwhile you played?
He's like, I'm proud of breakingthe cycle.
Good for Tyron Smith.
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That's, man, that story speaks.
That's an amazing story.
To go from nothing, a regularperson to do extraordinary
things.
And those extraordinary thingscoming with their backfall,
coming with this and that.
And in his case, it came withtoxic family members who were
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requesting and requesting andusing and using and using him.
They didn't even care about himanymore.
They care more about his money.
than him, and he had to makethat decision to put his foot
down.
So what I want to, that's a veryshort kind of layman's story,
and it speaks to me for multiplereasons.
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But I want you to know thisstory, like I told you in the
beginning, it's not aboutfootball.
It's about becoming whoeveryou're supposed to be, walking
in that, listening to, you knowhow many people he had to listen
to?
As someone who played D1collegiate football only for a
year, A year or two at a highlevel, there's so many people
who have something to say toyou.
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They want to say something.
Ignoring that, it's like, hey,I'm going to keep doing whatever
this is I'm doing, whatever thatis for you.
Going to that.
You're not...
Really, what's great about thisstory, and I want to communicate
to my audience, it's not aboutliving for the highlights.
Oh, I'm this greatest personever.
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I did this.
That comes with so much junk, aswe have seen, as we just talked
about in this one case, in thisone example.
So much things come from that.
But when you're a regular persondoing something extraordinary,
you have peace.
There's a peace that comes withthat.
And maybe that's you.
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Maybe that's where you're atright now.
And you're hearing those talksfrom people.
This, that, this, that, theother.
They don't understand what'sreally happening.
And they just want whateverfruit.
Maybe you're doing somethinggreat in school.
Whatever it is.
I can't even think of anexample.
Whatever it is.
Know that that's what you haveto do.
And you have to deal with peoplewho don't think, look, speak,
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vote, or want the best for you.
And maybe they disagreeentirely.
But not getting to the pointwhere like I am, I know
everything because I'm thegreatest thing ever and still
listening to them, still havingthat conversation.
And you don't need to prove whoyou are.
You just have to protect it.
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So that's the story.
I hope you guys are seeing thepicture that I'm trying to paint
here with a regular person whowent on to do something
extraordinary and had lots ofbacklash for it.
With that, one of the big...
What's that extraordinary thingyou did?
Tyron didn't start off with aspoon in his mouth.
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As much as I imagine much of usdon't.
None of us have great starts.
Majority, I would say.
So what's somethingextraordinary you want to do?
For Tyron, it was play football.
He freaking did it.
But what's that for you?
For me, it's running asuccessful podcast.
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What's that for you?
And then what's a...
What's a boundary that you needto set that you're not thinking
about with Tyron is setting aboundary with his family.
Maybe that's something you needto do.
What does that look like foryou?
And then.
Here's really what I want to getat.
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With Kyle talks, we haveconversations with other people.
That's the whole point of this.
Regular people doingextraordinary things.
We can't.
We can't allow other people todefine what we want or what we
want to do.
I know that's cheesy.
I get it.
I get it.
It's super cheesy.
Oh, Kyle, everyone says that.
Yes, but I want this story topaint a picture for you.
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You need space to be the personwho you want to be and who you
know you can be and do thesuccessful things that you know
you can do.
But you need boundaries.
And you need to talk to peoplewho don't agree or see you for
who you are.
Does that make sense?
Do you guys get what I'm saying?
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But yeah.
That's about it.
That's the story of Tyron Smith,one of the greatest linemen
football players in the world.
And really a good characterstudy for a regular person doing
something extraordinary anddealing with the effects of it.
Something that comes with beingextraordinary.
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So I appreciate it.
I hope you got something out ofthis.
I know this is a little bit morecliche.
But I really want to start doingcharacter studies into regular
people doing everyday things,getting to more case studies
where people disagree with eachother.
Here's a little teaser of what'sto come.
I'm also looking at doingepisodes in the future where
people don't disagree with eachother.
And I kind of butt in and say,well, they're yelling at each
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other.
They didn't relay this pointeffectively.
They didn't relay this pointeffectively.
And like, hey, that's kind ofwhat I think about going
forward, building more and morecharacters.
So, yeah, expect more casestudies, character studies of
regular people doingextraordinary things.
Expect more case studies ofconversations gone wrong because
there's a way they can go right.
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So that's what that's what wetalked about today.
I hope you got some out of it.
I hope we encouraged you.
This is meant to be encouragingfor you to be who you want to
be.
You're going to have to, one,listen to people who don't agree
with you and to listen.
You're going to have to set downboundaries.
You're going to have to be thatregular person that came from
nowhere, Moreno Valley, whereverit is you were born, and do
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something extraordinary withwhatever it is that you're good
at.
If this touched you, made anysense to you at all, please go
ahead and share the show on X orInstagram and tag at Kyle
DeHorton.
I will love you forever.
You guys are great.
I'm so excited for where theshow is going, how we'll be
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growing, and just, yeah, I'mexcited.
I'm excited to be here with youguys, and thank you for being a
part of it.
Again, leave a review, please.
Leave a review.
It really helps the show grow.
It lets more people get aware ofthe show when you leave your
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more people who don't agree withus into the conversation.
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And that's what we're all about.
Have a good weekend.
Be safe.
Have fun.
And I'll see you guys next timeon Kyle Talks.
Peace.
Welcome back to Kyle Talks, where I'm Kyle and we
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Yo, yo, yo, what it doobiedoobie do in these streets on my
boys and girls.
Hello, beautiful people.
How's it going?
Thank you guys so much.
Welcome back to the Kyle Talkspodcast where I'm Kyle and we
talk.
I don't know if you guys cantell.
I'm really excited to talk toyou guys today.
I'm really excited.
Yeah, you guys are good.
Thank you.
Before we jump to the episode,whatever you're doing, whether
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you're listening to this on yourway to work, your way from home,
you're doing your morning walk.
A lot of people reached out tome a lot.
We're not talking like jokes,but a significant amount of
people reached out and said theynow listen to the show for those
who walk or work out, mainlywalk in the morning, which is
(01:05):
kind of cool.
You're hearing this beautifulvoice at 6 a.m., which is cool,
or whatever time you walk.
That's pretty cool.
Thanks.
I appreciate that, guys.
With that, I just thank you forthe love and support we've been
getting for this podcast lately.
We've been...
(01:26):
Yeah, I mean, I know I say thisall the time.
I don't say this to detract fromthe progress we make.
We're no Joe Rogan yet.
Notice that keyword.
But man, having people interact,share.
I have people leaving commentson Spotify.
That's insane.
You guys are leaving reviewswith words and you guys are
sharing the reels and stuff.
(01:46):
By the way, follow me atKyleTheHorton on X and Instagram
for reels, little snippets.
You know how that goes.
But man, it's crazy.
Kind of cool.
A little bit surreal to seethat.
So I'm very appreciative.
We've come far and we still gota lot to go.
But thank you for the love.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for interacting.
Thank you guys so much.
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Me and unofficial producer Rioreally do appreciate it.
Shout outs to him.
This show can't happen.
He's literally my secondhand manfor this show.
And so.
Yeah, thank you guys.
Thank you.
What's new?
You guys know I love to yapbefore boss and before the
topic.
What's new?
Are you ready for this?
(02:28):
Nothing.
Nothing really much.
Devoting.
Well, here's what's new.
Here's what's new.
I am getting more and more intoreels and making reels, putting
them out there.
I'm getting a...
A recorded format of the versionof these episodes ready.
(02:49):
So I don't know when I'm notgoing to tell you when because I
don't know when that will come.
But getting that on the podcastso you can see my face and I can
see your face and we can leavecomments on YouTube.
We're getting that ready.
Working with, of course,unofficial producer Rio for
that.
And guys, it's just thank you somuch.
Yeah, it's by the way, my reels.
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I said thank you like three,four million times, but it's
true.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (03:15):
What do you guys think of my reels?
If you're not following me onInstagram or X, Twitter,
whatever you want to call it,follow me at Kyle LaHorton.
I'm putting out a reel a week,little short clips from the show
to give you more of an idea ofwhat behind the scenes look
like.
You get a little sneak peek ofthis week's episode.
So let me know what you guysthink.
(03:35):
I wouldn't say it's not good,but it's not the top tier.
You know what I mean?
I'm still learning, so be...
gentle with me i'm stilllearning if you have tips i will
genuinely take them like i'm notin a position to turn down if
you have tips please let me knowum i will listen to you and if
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you have good tips i'm here youknow where to find me um but
yeah just more focusing on thepodcast lately you guys are
taking it more serious clearlyum the listener audience taking
it more serious so i gotta applygame and take it more serious um
i have been taking it seriousbut it's like I don't know.
It's like real recognizes theworld.
You get what I'm saying?
Like I have.
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But it's also like, oh, likewe're really I don't know if
that makes sense.
But yeah, I'm grateful and it'sa cool feeling.
But yeah, that's about it.
Nothing crazy, too crazy new.
Carson, he's a hit in all thereveals.
I think I'll keep on using him.
We'll have him on the podcastone day to give us his thoughts
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about puppy food.
But yeah, that's it.
That's it.
That's it for my yet.
Nothing new.
I'm just grateful.
And I'm really excited to jumpinto today's boss segment and
jump into today's topicepisodes.
So let's do it.
This segment is called Boss, ourbefore opening show segment.
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This podcast is awesome.
All about, oh, I didn't e-sellout.
That's okay.
I'll do it now.
This podcast is all about peoplewho don't think the same, dress
the same, believe the same, praythe same, vote the same, do
nothing the same, and we stillhave conversations.
That's the whole reason for thispodcast is disagree on
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everything, but agree ontalking.
That's the whole premise of thispodcast.
We've lost the art of havingconversations.
We've lost the art of sittingdown and disagreeing with
someone.
And Gen Z, which I am a proudmember of, we're going to bring
that back.
We're going to bringconversations back and sit down
and have those hardconversations with people.
Check out episode 156.
If that intrigues you, you'lllove that episode.
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So check out 156.
I'm really excited for whatwe're building here and the
community that we're building.
So with that in mind, If this isyour first time here, please
give yourself a pat on the back.
If this is your millionth timehere, welcome to Kyle Talks
Studio in sunny Los Angeles,California, where the White Claw
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My favorite, Pamplemousse, butLemoncello, hello, come on,
someone gotta love Lemoncelloout there.
People, I've gotten hate, youlike White Claws?
I don't know, I'm feelinghealthier than you are.
I hate to say it, but it's true.
I'm feeling good about myself.
I'll drink my$80 carbonatedalcohol water,$80, my 80 calorie
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carbonate.
Go ahead.
Have your 600 calorie wheat.
Go ahead.
Hey, sorry.
That got intense because I havebeen getting, you guys have been
reaching out and saying like,it's disgusting.
I'm like white call.
I mean, I'm being called basicwhite and I'm half white, so
it's okay.
But we will not stand for WhiteClaw hatred on this podcast.
(06:50):
So we'll actually have aconversation.
Anyways, yeah.
So thank you for returning.
If this is your first time here,welcome.
If you've been here multipletimes, welcome.
And then that's the core of ourshow.
Disagreeing on everything, butagreeing on talking.
With that in mind, this podcastis all about community
conversations.
And if I didn't have a segmentwhere it gave us an opportunity
(07:12):
to have a conversation, I'd be asham, a charlatan.
And whatever other words you canthink of.
So what bosses stands for beforeopening show and gives us a
moment for me to read yourquestion and just have a, it's a
bro to bro talk.
I'm only 28 years young.
I don't know what I don't knowyet.
I'm still learning.
I'm still figuring out theworld.
(07:32):
Um, so this is just anopportunity for us to have a
conversation.
We've had stuff about going tofield trips, life choices, money
in the Netherlands, um, Topicranges from serious to not
serious to everything.
It's just an opportunity for usto have a conversation.
If you would like to send yourquestion in, send it in to
KyleTalksPodcast at gmail.comand put Boss, B-O-S-S in the
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subject line and then yourquestion for a chance to get
read live on air.
Well, I feel like I said a lotthere.
Don't worry.
I got LaCroix, Pamplemousse nextto me in the ticket.
Quick sip.
Ah, oh yeah, boys, we're doinggood.
So let's jump into today's bossquestion.
(08:16):
This question comes from a loyalviewer who says, can you please
not say my name?
I got, he says it in bold.
You bold and italicized it atthe top.
W, I got you.
I will not say your name.
And it's not like we're,anyways, yeah, thank you for
sending your question.
I just have any side thoughts.
Appreciate you saying it.
The question goes, Hello, Kyleand super unofficial producer
(08:40):
Rio.
Super.
Huh.
Be super now.
All right.
Got it.
Let's move on.
I really I really appreciate thevibe and I'm not I think I'm
only a few months older thanyou.
So I not even a full yearalmost, though.
But I have a question for youfrom one guy to another.
Perfect.
I do kind of vet these questionsbeforehand.
(09:02):
I don't really read it, read it,ask it.
So let's jump in.
I'm a little bit older than you,not even a year, but I feel like
I'm OK.
OK, I'm twenty nine and I feellike everyone around me is is
doing so much more than I am.
That could literally mean thatcould literally mean careers.
Some people I know havefamilies, parentheses.
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They are cute, though, endquote, end parentheses.
Some people my age are buyinghouses.
That completely ruins my day.
Me too, brother.
And I feel I don't know what Idon't even know what to know.
I hope that makes sense.
I don't know what to do.
I'm not I'm not inferring thatyou have it all together, but
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you do talk about this a lot.
And you've had some guests inthe past like Jack, which I
really enjoyed.
Hi mom, hello everyone.
(10:21):
And Kyle, you always say, do youknow me?
You kind of know me.
You've said hi to me one timewhen we worked at Lowe's in
Fresno.
But that's about it.
Anyways, appreciate you.
Keep it real.
Until real, I said hi.
That, I like that.
That's like a real, yo, what'sgoing on, dude?
I've worked with you at Lowe's.
No, you said I said hi to you.
Maybe I worked with you.
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I'm not sure.
But what's up?
Hope you're doing well, big dog.
I'm in SoCal now.
I'm in Los Angeles.
Man, working at Lowe's reallywas great.
Working at Lowe's, I really hada good time working at Lowe's.
That was really a good time, tobe honest.
Shout out to anyone from Lowe'slistening.
I have a Lowe's story that Iwant to tell, but I'm saving it.
(11:02):
It's a good story.
It's a good story.
I've posted it on some commentsections in YouTube on certain
videos.
So there's that.
If you can find it, I doubt youcan, but I have.
And I have a great little storyto tell one day.
But let's jump into yourquestion.
I appreciate you for sendingthat question in, by the way.
Super real.
Yeah, brother, you may be 29,not even a full year, but we're
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the same age.
For all intents and purposes,we're the same age.
And genuinely, when you saidwhen people buy houses, that
ruins my day too.
Because I'm 28.
We're the same age, essentially.
And...
When I see people buying houses,I'm like, all right, hate you.
Block, ignore, next.
It's true.
Like, I get it.
(11:45):
I get it.
But your real question is likefeeling stuck and everyone else
is doing cool stuff.
Can I say me too?
Like, is that okay for me tosay?
Like, I feel like that too.
And I think, you know, shout outto the great...
Oh my gosh, what's his name?
I know who he is.
He does the NFTs, Vee Friends.
(12:06):
He's really an amazing, he's anamazing person.
Gary, Gary Vee, Gary Vee.
I forgot his last name, but GaryVee.
He's an amazing man.
And I was actually filming likethis, asking official producer
Rio.
I was talking to, this was awhile ago.
I was like, man, I feel like,you know, the podcast, I just
lost my job at that time.
(12:29):
Like, I got no kind of emotion.
And he was talking to me, andsome Gary Vee memes, reels, came
up.
I don't use CCP talk, sorry.
That's a whole otherconversation.
But anyways, Gary Vee came up,and this lady was like, and I'm
sure you've seen it.
It's popular.
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But she was like, oh, yeah, I'mposting every day, Gary.
And just so you know, one dayI'll be somebody.
And he turns around, and he'slike, Oh, that's the point.
You are someone right now.
You are somebody.
And that was like.
Dang, I kind of hit me likethat's when when you just see it
and you can't relate, it feelsgood.
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But when you see something likethat and can relate to it, it
like it brings on a whole newmeaning.
So for me, that was like, yeah,I needed to hear that
personally.
I mean, I'm sure you know whoGary Vee is.
Obviously, he's freaking hugeand amazing man.
I would say look stuff.
Look, look to him a lot becauseyou've had people who have come
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on his podcast and his reels andbeen like, dude, I'm only like
40.
I'm 36.
I feel like I'm he's like, dude,you just getting started.
Yeah, we're just gettingstarted.
Big dog, my friend.
We're just we're still in our20s and 30s.
From what I'm told, the 30s arejust like your 20s with more
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money and you're a little bitmore mature.
So we still got a whole notherdecade of being young.
Once you get 40, you know,that's just I'm just being
serious.
But we still have to finish our20s strong.
And then we have our whole 30swith more money and a bit more
maturity.
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So we have time, big friend.
I don't know.
I don't have specific advice foryou because we're One man to
another, one bro to another, onefriend to another.
Yeah, look up people that saylike, hey, you are somebody,
Gary V.
Or you're just getting started.
What are you talking about?
And also the other thing isdon't compare.
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It's super cheesy.
I know, I know.
But comparison genuinely is thethief of joy.
Oh, this person has a biggerpodcast.
This person has...
two kids already or a house howdo they afford a house like yes
it's like they're doing greatand like you're happy for them
and not at the same time so i iget it um as someone who's done
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it i get it but we can't compareto ourselves like we're doing
our own thing they're killing itwhatever it is um Yeah.
And then my last piece, and thisis, you guys know I love
practical advice.
This is something that was toldto me by a mentor, and I try to
keep in my head every day.
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Just do something every day thatgives you one step closer to
your goal.
If it happens overnight, good.
Spoiler alert, it's probably notgoing to happen overnight.
But do something...
You only got to do one thing aday that gets you closer to your
goal.
So for me, I had a businessteacher tell me that.
And then my mentor told me thatsame thing, different wording,
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same thing.
So for me, I do three things.
One, I better myself physically.
That means going to the gym, etcetera.
Two, I better myselfspiritually, which you guys know
I'm a Christian.
I would implore that you tryJesus because he loves you more
than you understand.
But if Christianity is not yourthing.
Hey, that's okay.
This is a space for everyone,even if we disagree.
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Something spiritually has to bebigger than you.
And mentally, reading a book,understanding cosmic equations,
something like that.
Do something to better yourselfphysically, spiritually, and
mentally.
That's what I do every day, andthey add up.
Nothing's going to change thefirst time or the seventh time
or the 26th time.
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But stuff will start to changelike the 100th time you do that,
200th time, the thousands, youknow, things like that.
So that's my advice for you.
Thank you for sending thatquestion.
I hope that was at least somekind of helpful, but I get it,
my friend.
Trust me.
You and me, my friend.
Yeah, trust me.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
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So thank you for sending in thatquestion.
If you would like to send inyour own question, please send
it in to KyleTalksPodcast atgmail.com and put Boss, B-O-S-S
in the subject line for a chanceto read it.
Now, you've read the title.
You know what this is about.
But speaking of doing one thingevery day just to get to your
goal, bettering yourself in someway and not comparison.
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And in the vein of the show,hearing...
Regular people doingextraordinary things.
I want to talk about one of myfavorite stories and really the
story that has spoken me to akid till now.
We're going to talk aboutchanging your story.
And that brings us to today'sepisode.
It's all about a man who hadnothing.
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Zero, zip, nada, zero.
Born in Nowhere Town,Loserville, which I'm actually
pretty close to.
Yeah.
but kept fighting and turnedsomething regular,
non-extraordinary into somethingextraordinary, and then had to
turn around and fight for hisown personal peace.
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And this is the story of TyronSmith.
I like this story a lot.
It's one of my favorite stories,and I think you and me,
especially with that bossquestion, I think this fits in
perfectly and fits the vibe ofthe show.
And what we want to do with theshow, before we jump in, I'll
remind you, the show is aboutnot thinking, drinking, looking,
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praying, dressing, eating thesame and still having good
conversations.
And what comes from that?
Hearing the stories of regularpeople doing extraordinary
things.
And I want to talk about aregular person who did something
extraordinary.
He became to be an NFL player,but.
regular person in his originsand his roots and where he grew
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up um so i want to talk aboutthe story and what we can learn
from it from tyron smith um heis well tyron smith is a former
retired um left tackle he spentthe majority of his career
within the cowboys and outsideof that he wants the jets for a
little bit uh l jets um but heretired as a cowboys player some
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accomplishments and accolades hewas the left tackle um which may
sound familiar because i playedleft tackle in collegiate ball
and he was my story tyron smithwas my story um so he was the
cornerstone of the cowboysoffensive and you guys thinking
oh sports no if even if youdon't love sports this has
nothing to do with sports butthis has everything to do with
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mentality so stick around evenif you don't like sports this
has nothing to do with it stickaround But what did he do?
Smith, he was the cornerstone.
And I was raised watching himplay.
He truly was the lineman offensefor the Cowboys.
He was the left tackle.
He earned not only one, not two,not three, not four, not five,
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not six, not seven, but eightPro Bowl selections.
And he was the first teamplayer.
All pro in his honors.
He dealt with a lot of injuriesthroughout his career, mainly
with his leg.
He always had differentenergies, but he was the
cornerstone 14 years in the NFL,majority spent with the Cowboys,
left tackle, legendary, changedhow their offense worked and
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their offense revolved aroundTyron.
He's a legendary, one of thebest linemen, in my opinion,
super dedicated, worked hard,and he started from...
Nothing.
How do you get there?
This is the part where I want totell.
So how Tyron, this is all aboutregular people doing something,
something extraordinary.
So Tyron Smith, he was born in1990.
So he's seven years older thanme.
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So if I'm 28, 29, 30, 31, 32,33, he's 35 and he spent 14
seasons in the NFL.
You do the math on that.
And he was born in MorenoValley, California.
Which is kind of crazy.
The MoVal Mall sucks.
So yeah, he was raised with aboring mall.
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I've been there.
I don't like going to the MorenoValley Mall.
It kind of sucks to be superhonest with you.
Yeah, I go to Moreno Valley toshop for at Aldi's and Costco
sometime.
Am I doxing myself?
I don't know, but it's a prettygood Costco.
But the mall sucks.
induces depression.
And what's significant aboutthis, he was born to, well,
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significant and unfortunate.
He was born to a single motherin a working home.
So mom was usually gone workingone to two jobs just to provide
for Tyron.
At a younger age, he was quiet.
He didn't really do much inschool, but he was disciplined.
And who knows, that came fromhis mom.
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Parents, you are important.
Growing up and see his mom dothat.
Very driven.
He didn't really talk too muchgrowing up, but he was very loud
on the field in athletics.
He went to Rancho Verde HighSchool.
He came great in football, greatin track and field.
He got noticed.
He moved up.
And he ended up going to USC.
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So he wasn't loud.
He wasn't flashy.
But he had something.
And what I want us to take awayfrom this is it doesn't matter
how you start.
Tyron went to do great thingsand be, in my opinion, one of
the best linemen in the game tothis date.
And I'm recording this in 2025.
The best lineman to date in Julyof 2025.
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And I see it going forward.
But he didn't start with a spoonin the mouth.
He didn't start super great.
He didn't start...
Oh, I'm mother.
I would like two caviar, please.
Like he didn't start like that.
That's not maybe there'ssomewhere there is that you did.
I don't know.
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But what I want you and I wantme to pull out from it is I've
had person a I feel stuck.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I don't have all these greattools.
These other people are ahead ofme that it doesn't matter.
We can still do extraordinarythings.
Remember, at this point, he's aregular shmegular person in a
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city that's not too far from mewith a terrible mall with a
single mom working all the time.
And he went, you don't needthese great things.
You don't need all these things.
That's what I want us to takefrom that.
He let he didn't need thosegreat things.
He did definitely feel stuck.
I mean, look at the kids aroundhim.
They had a dad.
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Just that alone makes you feellike, okay, you've had a way
bigger step.
Just that alone.
So he wasn't flashy.
He didn't talk too much.
He wasn't loud.
But he was important on thefield.
He made it happen.
He found something that he'sgood at.
Like what we talked aboutearlier in today's episode,
whatever that is for you, hewent and just did it.
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Moving on.
So high school, all those thingshe did well.
And then he started college.
Really getting discovered whenwe played at USC, University of
the Trojans.
Hey, let's go.
I want to play at this school.
I didn't.
And I want to play there becauseof Tyron Smith.
But Tyron earned a scholarshipto USC, which is, to this day,
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some people might disagree withme, one of the top football
programs.
I'd say maybe the top fourprograms in the country.
He played from the Trojans from2008-2010, starting every single
game, critical positions.
He earned the first team All-Pac10, which is their West
Conference.
If you don't know sports, that'sfine.
He did really good, and he washonored for that and things like
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that.
And he did really good, startedevery single game.
And by the time he was a junior,he was already being scouted as
an NFL prospect.
So a little bit of the LeBronJames.
LeBron went on to high schoolplaying.
I'm not an NBA guy, so forgiveme if I'm wrong.
But I think LeBron startedplaying for the NBA outside of
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high school because he wasreally good.
Tyron Smith started playing...
and was getting scouted hisjunior year almost done with
college, which is super rare,especially for a lineman.
We're talking about being, Iwant to paint this picture.
So nothing grew up, nothingstarts, had nothing, but really
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excelled in the one thing hefound out.
And maybe for you, that onething is artistry.
Maybe that one thing ispodcasting.
Maybe that one thing ispictures, art, something of that
degree.
Maybe that's for you.
He found out what his was.
His just happened to befootball.
And he really ran with it andexcelled in it and did well in
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it.
And by the time he got tocollege, he just kept on
building on what he knew, kepton doing on what he went to
classes, had the girlfriendsthing, you know, the stress, the
parties, things like that.
But he still focused because heknew he had a mom to take care
of.
And that's going to come back tobite him later.
He went to USC, um, Honestly, asone of the better schools, I
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personally, I wanted to gothere.
I didn't.
But here's the really crazypart.
And maybe this will make some ofus feel worse.
When he was being scouted hisjunior year at USC, he wasn't
even 21 yet.
He was 1920.
That kind of hurts.
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But when he turned– so he playedat USC.
He did really good.
He joined the NFL at 20 yearsold.
When he was 20, that means I was13.
When I was 13, he was 20.
He joined the NFL in 2011.
He was the ninth overall pick bythe Dallas Cowboys.
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He was 20.
He became the youngest lineman,starting lineman in his life.
And– What's coming next?
This is the bulk of where I wantto spend our time.
He grew up with nothing.
A single mom working jobs justto provide, get him to school,
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things like that.
And he signed to the NFL.
What comes with that?
Money upon money upon money uponmoney.
He signed a multi-million dollardeal and was immediately in the
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national spotlight.
Now, picture this.
All the things we talked aboutwhere he came from.
He's 20 years old.
He's making millions of dollars.
Signed five million, I think.
Something like that.
Five million dollars just forsigning a piece of paper.
Boom.
Yours.
The world is watching you.
pressure, fame, a mom you wantto support because you did so
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much to help you, a stepdad inthe picture, coming into the
picture.
You're dealing with thesepressures.
You're successful.
And now here's where things kindof churn, unfortunately, for the
worst.
His hard work, his dedicationgot here.
What I want to focus on hisrise.
He did not come from anywherespecial.
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He did not have anything greatto offer but his skill, and he
studied, and he did it, and hecame through, came through, came
through, came through, and thatgot him to where he's 20 years
old being a millionaire becauseof a sport from a single mom in
a working home.
So it doesn't matter where youstart.
You can be a regular person andstill do great things.
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He went on to be in the NFL.
But he was a regular guy goingto school, dealing with being
sick.
He was a regular guy who didn'twant to go to practice some
days, who didn't want to workout some days, who probably
didn't want to fly to somegames.
That's actually kind ofterrible.
Put on different kinds of gear.
Regular person got his coffee orwhatever it is.
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I hope you're seeing the pictureI'm painting here.
Regular guy who went on to dosomething extremely
extraordinary.
One of the best linemen in theworld.
He's 20.
He has millions of dollars.
And here's where the problemskind of took and what makes him
a legend and where he tried.
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As Tyron went and played, he gotreally good.
Cowboys loved him.
Fans loved him.
I loved him as a 13-year-old,14-year-old.
I thought he was great.
He was my star.
People like LeBron.
People like Steph.
I like Tyron Smith.
One of the greatest players evernext to Emmitt Smith.
And he's a millionaire now.
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He's done great things.
Remember, he came from a poorbackground with this single mom.
So as he did well, as he played,as he performed, and as he
became more of a star, he alsogot more demands from his
family.
Family members from all across,literally family members coming
out to him who didn't even know,who didn't interact with him,
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started always asking for money.
constantly asking for money carsjobs financial support and he
kept on kept on and kept onpressuring him for money as a
young kid 20 you're a young kidno idea what you're doing but
you have all this money now andyou have people coming out the
woodworks hey we need money heywe need money hey we need money
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hey we need money hey we needmoney um he gave a few He gave a
couple of millions at first tohis family members, keeping them
going.
And then one day, his mom at thetime and his stepdad wanted a
new house.
So Tyron being a great, a greatson and a great football player
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said, well, great son said,yeah, I'll get you guys a house.
Look, see what you guys like.
I'll buy it for you.
We'll get going.
They looked at houses.
They found a house.
And they came back to Tyrone.
Mom called them.
Hey, son, we found this greathouse that we like.
And then they told him theprice.
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And that price was more than hiscurrent house.
They wanted something more thaneven their son had.
They wanted the bougie, biglife.
And here were the reasons.
When he tried to set boundaries,he said no to that house.
And they tried to guilt triphim, which led him...
which probably honestly causedissues.
A lot of the injury issues thathe had because he's dealing with
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this mounting pressure, not fromfans, but from his own family.
They hit him with, we raisedyou.
We wiped your butt.
You peed on us.
You owe us.
You wouldn't be here at thisschool without us.
You wouldn't be at this pointwithout us.
You needed us to get herebecause we raised you, so you
owe us.
Imagine that constant, constantpressure from family members,
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people who love you, people whowiped your butt when you were a
kid, and getting that constant,constant bereavement from family
and having to put your foot downand say, no, no more.
He was dealing with that whilebeing one of the top athletes.
In addition to that, dealingwith injury after injury after
injury.
I would make the guess there wasso much mentally going on with
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them.
He had to eventually hire aLawyers, he had to get lawyers
present, set boundaries with hisfamily, his own family.
So after this house debacle andmultiple sending no, sending
boundaries, the situation gotmuch worse.
At one point, His family, hisfamily showed up.
They were not invited.
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They were not told to show up toCowboys training camp to
confront them.
So Tyron dealing with this,having to hire lawyers, set
boundaries, keep his head downto focus on something.
How to tell his family, stopreaching out, set boundaries,
home now, essentially like thisis this is done.
We're not doing this anymore.
And they decided, his family,they didn't like that answer.
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So they flew to one of histraining camps and showed up
asking to talk to Tyron.
Which is genuinely crazy.
Escalated beyond that point andit got so bad of the stalking,
seeing him requesting money,trying to contact him with
different phones, emails,different individuals, notes.
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Because he said no.
His family was taking advantageof him financially.
Family saying no.
And it got so intense that heeventually started calling the
police on his own family andfiling orders on his own family
for harassment.
That's not.
What do I try to say?
That's not tough.
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That's heartbreaking.
The people who are supposed toprotect you, the people who
raised you, the people who wipedyour butt, dealt with your throw
up as a kid, watching you growup.
And they're supposed to protectyou no matter how old you are.
They're supposed to protect you.
And he had to separate andprotect himself from the very
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people that are supposed toprotect you.
So you see the picture painting.
Born nothing, nowhere town.
Really did focus on this onething.
Did great.
Had this success in this family.
really start getting weird aboutit.
They start getting really weird,really toxic.
And he was already providing forthem, but they wanted more.
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He was already providing forthem, but they wanted more.
So Tyron, you know, called thepolice.
He cut off access to familymembers.
He had financial advisors andlegal professionals.
He's giving so much money to hisfamily.
They had to stop it and he hadto get the law involved, lawyers
involved.
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He started focusing on therapy,mental health, rebuilding his
trust.
He got into a great relationshipwith this person that's great
for him.
And here's what I want to hear,especially as we're regular
people, especially we're regularpeople, you and me, I assume.
We all started off regular,right?
You and me listening to this.
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And we want to do somethingextraordinary.
We have to have boundaries, andthat's the point.
Heating boundaries.
Saying no is not discriminating.
Saying no is not hurting.
It hurts their feelings.
So be it.
Saying no is boundaries are notbetrayal.
You can love people and stillsay this is no more for me.
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So after all this, after thehot, the lawyers, advisors,
things like that, he continueddominating.
NFL.
He had eight Pro Bowls.
He was in the all-team, and hewas respected league-wide for
his character and his ethic.
Now, someone doing crazy likethis, you don't really hear
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about, like, oh, yeah, they'rejust going through a lot.
Or, oh, yeah, his character isstarting to break down because
of this, whatever it may be.
He remained and kept hischaracter in the face of
scrutiny.
And we have to do that sometimeswhen we face really hard things.
He doesn't really speak aboutthe situation now.
As he's retired, he's older,he's moved on.
It's kind of said and done now.
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But he was in an ESPN interview,I believe.
And this was more recent, likefour or five years ago.
He was in an ESPN interview, andthey asked him, like, what are
you most proud of that you didwhile you played?
He's like, I'm proud of breakingthe cycle.
Good for Tyron Smith.
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That's, man, that story speaks.
That's an amazing story.
To go from nothing, a regularperson to do extraordinary
things.
And those extraordinary thingscoming with their backfall,
coming with this and that.
And in his case, it came withtoxic family members who were
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requesting and requesting andusing and using and using him.
They didn't even care about himanymore.
They care more about his money.
than him, and he had to makethat decision to put his foot
down.
So what I want to, that's a veryshort kind of layman's story,
and it speaks to me for multiplereasons.
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But I want you to know thisstory, like I told you in the
beginning, it's not aboutfootball.
It's about becoming whoeveryou're supposed to be, walking
in that, listening to, you knowhow many people he had to listen
to?
As someone who played D1collegiate football only for a
year, A year or two at a highlevel, there's so many people
who have something to say toyou.
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They want to say something.
Ignoring that, it's like, hey,I'm going to keep doing whatever
this is I'm doing, whatever thatis for you.
Going to that.
You're not...
Really, what's great about thisstory, and I want to communicate
to my audience, it's not aboutliving for the highlights.
Oh, I'm this greatest personever.
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I did this.
That comes with so much junk, aswe have seen, as we just talked
about in this one case, in thisone example.
So much things come from that.
But when you're a regular persondoing something extraordinary,
you have peace.
There's a peace that comes withthat.
And maybe that's you.
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Maybe that's where you're atright now.
And you're hearing those talksfrom people.
This, that, this, that, theother.
They don't understand what'sreally happening.
And they just want whateverfruit.
Maybe you're doing somethinggreat in school.
Whatever it is.
I can't even think of anexample.
Whatever it is.
Know that that's what you haveto do.
And you have to deal with peoplewho don't think, look, speak,
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vote, or want the best for you.
And maybe they disagreeentirely.
But not getting to the pointwhere like I am, I know
everything because I'm thegreatest thing ever and still
listening to them, still havingthat conversation.
And you don't need to prove whoyou are.
You just have to protect it.
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So that's the story.
I hope you guys are seeing thepicture that I'm trying to paint
here with a regular person whowent on to do something
extraordinary and had lots ofbacklash for it.
With that, one of the big...
What's that extraordinary thingyou did?
Tyron didn't start off with aspoon in his mouth.
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As much as I imagine much of usdon't.
None of us have great starts.
Majority, I would say.
So what's somethingextraordinary you want to do?
For Tyron, it was play football.
He freaking did it.
But what's that for you?
For me, it's running asuccessful podcast.
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What's that for you?
And then what's a...
What's a boundary that you needto set that you're not thinking
about with Tyron is setting aboundary with his family.
Maybe that's something you needto do.
What does that look like foryou?
And then.
Here's really what I want to getat.
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With Kyle talks, we haveconversations with other people.
That's the whole point of this.
Regular people doingextraordinary things.
We can't.
We can't allow other people todefine what we want or what we
want to do.
I know that's cheesy.
I get it.
I get it.
It's super cheesy.
Oh, Kyle, everyone says that.
Yes, but I want this story topaint a picture for you.
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You need space to be the personwho you want to be and who you
know you can be and do thesuccessful things that you know
you can do.
But you need boundaries.
And you need to talk to peoplewho don't agree or see you for
who you are.
Does that make sense?
Do you guys get what I'm saying?
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But yeah.
That's about it.
That's the story of Tyron Smith,one of the greatest linemen
football players in the world.
And really a good characterstudy for a regular person doing
something extraordinary anddealing with the effects of it.
Something that comes with beingextraordinary.
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So I appreciate it.
I hope you got something out ofthis.
I know this is a little bit morecliche.
But I really want to start doingcharacter studies into regular
people doing everyday things,getting to more case studies
where people disagree with eachother.
Here's a little teaser of what'sto come.
I'm also looking at doingepisodes in the future where
people don't disagree with eachother.
And I kind of butt in and say,well, they're yelling at each
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other.
They didn't relay this pointeffectively.
They didn't relay this pointeffectively.
And like, hey, that's kind ofwhat I think about going
forward, building more and morecharacters.
So, yeah, expect more casestudies, character studies of
regular people doingextraordinary things.
Expect more case studies ofconversations gone wrong because
there's a way they can go right.
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So that's what that's what wetalked about today.
I hope you got some out of it.
I hope we encouraged you.
This is meant to be encouragingfor you to be who you want to
be.
You're going to have to, one,listen to people who don't agree
with you and to listen.
You're going to have to set downboundaries.
You're going to have to be thatregular person that came from
nowhere, Moreno Valley, whereverit is you were born, and do
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at.
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You guys are great.
I'm so excited for where theshow is going, how we'll be
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I'm excited to be here with youguys, and thank you for being a
part of it.
Again, leave a review, please.
Leave a review.
It really helps the show grow.
It lets more people get aware ofthe show when you leave your
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Peace.
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