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I'm your intrepid
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Monica Mountains. I am ElliotMarzulli, we're going to be
talking about AI and artificialintelligence and this is very
interesting. I would love to getKellen McGovern Jones on the
show and have this person talkabout it mano a mano, as it
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were. How AI is opening doors tothe demonic and exorcist
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A leading Catholic exorcist issounding the alarm about
artificial intelligence warningthat new technologies from
generative AI to voice mimickingconsumer products are rapidly
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becoming vectors for occultpractice, spiritual deception
and demonic influence. Folks, ifthis isn't the end times, I
don't know what is. I mean, therise of the occult is just
unbelievable. And the caveathere is we're not saying that
all of this is demonic. We'renot saying that.
But I want to read the articlebecause I think you'll find it
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really interesting. Things arehappening with AI, which I find
alarming. And it's stillremember it's AI is still
replicating itself and all theknowledge in the world is, what
is it, every eight minutes orwhatever it is, or twelve
minutes, it like doubles. Imean, I'm not sure. I'm talking
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way outside my view or my scopeof understanding, but the bottom
line is this, that it replicatesitself and adds new information
to it every eight or ten minutesor whatever.
It's unbelievable. So, in aDecember 10 telephone interview
with the Daily Express, FatherSasa, a Catholic priest in
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Pennsylvania with forty sevenyears of ministry and fourteen
years of experience as anexorcist, said AI is already
being weaponized in ways mostChurch leaders are unprepared to
confront. So let me just stopright there. So we've got the
influx of AI which is everywhereby the way and it's at the point
where I can't tell what's realand what's fabricated and most
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people can't either. So you'vegot the whole thing happening
with AI, but guess what?
In tandem with that you've gotall these films coming out, Age
of Disclosure, great film by theway, Spielberg's films coming
out in the summer talking aboutwhat? Disclosure. Congress is
talking about what? UFOdisclosure. You see where we
are?
Folks, am I making this up? Youneed to understand that we are
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living in absolutelyunprecedented times. There's no
doubt about that. Though FatherSaga describes himself as a
lifelong tech enthusiast, he nowcalls AI a very serious problem,
emerging on the front lines ofspiritual warfare. The tech
itself is not the problem, hesaid, it's the use to which it's
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put.
Those who are into the occult,witchcraft and demonology are
using AI as vehicles to castspells and curses. Okay, so let
me just tell you a story. Folks,there are covens in pretty much
every city in America. There's apsychic in every city in
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America. You go back 80, therewere no psychics, maybe one or
two in New York City.
Not like we have today. Notlike, you know, you go out in
the middle of West Virginiasomeplace, you know, there's a
sign in the front lawn (05:17):
Come in
for Tarot reading! Seriously?
It's everywhere. So, don't befooled.
I told this story, I'm going tosay it again. I was at a local
church, a local church. I wasn'tpart of ministry there, we were
just attending a local church.So that could be anywhere within
100 miles from where we live. Soyou'll never find the church.
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And I was sitting there in apew, my wife was next to me,
there were three or four emptyseats and then there was a
woman, had a veil on, prettygal, probably mid twenties,
something like that, welldressed and I kept glancing over
because her hands were moving.Folks, she was working a ritual.
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She wasn't praying, she wasworking a ritual is what she was
doing. There's a witch sittingin the congregation. I'll tell
you one more story.
And I dreamt about Russ Disdarlast night, which was really
interesting, but I digress. Infact, I'm drinking out of my I
digress cup right here. I reallydo miss Russ. He was a battle
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buddy, someone I could call upand talk shop with. You know,
he's with the Lord.
Probably when I get up there,can only imagine the greeting
He'll give me. So anyway, Idigress. So Russ and I were at a
conference in Ohio years ago andI had learned from a previous
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conference that if I'm up therespeaking and I'm being hit, if
someone is sending something,stop and pray and take authority
over it. So it's my turn tospeak and I'm up there and I'm
walking, you know, I'm standingat the pulpit, all of a sudden,
boom, I get hit. I was okay.
And I start to continue to tryto speak and I go, Nope, I've
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learned my lesson from a coupleof conferences ago. I'm not
doing this. I stop and then Iget in front of the podium. So
I'm walking up in front, youknow, back and forth and I'm
saying something like this (07:25):
If
you are here and you are trying
to send something, if you're awitch or a warlock and you're
into the occult, I forbid you tospeak, I forbid this to happen,
we break it in the name of Jesusby the blood of a lamb. Anything
that you are sending is brokenand sent back to you.
This woman stands up, covers herface, shrieks and runs out of
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the room. Why am I saying this?Because the occult is real and
there are children and teenagersand young adults who because the
church no longer deals in thesupernatural for the most part
painting with a broad brush herebut for the most part. So the
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kids look elsewhere and theyfind power there, but that power
comes with a price. Let'scontinue.
Varanasi says the evidence is nolonger theoretical. At the
International Association ofExorcists meeting in Rome this
fall an Italian universityprofessor presented forensic
documentation showing that AIsystems were already being
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trained on occult texts andemployed in spell casting by
practitioners. She had veryserious information slides,
connections, evidence, FatherSadas said. AI is being used and
we are very aware of it. Oneemerging trend, digital sigils,
demonic symbols or anodestraditionally drawn by hand are
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now being generated online andbeing pushed through AI systems
where they continue to circulateindefinitely.
Once you put something on theinternet it's there forever,
Saadis said, noting that thesecurses keep functioning long
after the person who createdthem has died. Father Sadas
cited a current legal case he isconsulting on where a deceased
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woman allegedly created AIgenerated sigils attached to
photographs of family membersand a lawyer. All fell
mysteriously ill on the same daywith the attorney landing in
intensive care. So let mecontinue, I'm going to show you
this. This is reallyunbelievable.
This is baby Charlie and I amshown this before, but I'm going
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to show it again here. What ifthe loved ones we've lost could
be part of our future? So I'mgoing to enlarge this, so watch
this. This is high-technecromancy. I've shown up before
and we're sure it will get.
This is high-tech necromancy.There's no way around it. You
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know, you can do the Texas twostep until Texas becomes
whatever, but it's not going tochange. Here's the clip.
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He's getting bigger.
See? Oh, I think that's
wonderful. Kicking like crazy.He's listening.
Put your hand on your tummy anddown. You used to laugh there.
Feels like he's dancing inthere. Well, would you tell
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Charlie that bedtime story youalways used to tell me? Once
upon a time, there was a babyunicorn who didn't know he knew
how to fly.
This baby unicorn was like yourmom because she didn't know that
she knew how to fry, but sheknew how to do all kinds of
fabulous things. Hi, grandma.Hey, Charlie. How was school
today? It was really fun.
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I'm getting this crazy shot atbasketball. I don't really care
that much about basketball. Whatabout Crush. The Better stop,
doc. Just tell me one thing.
Look who's gonna be a greatgrandmother. Oh, Charlie. Oh,
She says that he's been kickinga lot, though. Like, a little
too much. Tell her to put herhand on her tummy and hummed
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him.
You'd loved that. You would haveloved this moment. You can call
anytime. Okay, mom, I just needa quick video. Is this like an
audition or something?
No, mom. Just three minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So this is the way
you create the AI avatar. So
she's gonna take an avatar ofher mother while she was still
alive. What you saw when Charlieis 30 years old, speaking to his
dead grandmother, that'shigh-tech necromancy. This is
where we are. He's got to comeback and get us out of here.
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Just saying, what's the rest of
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it? Sight.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So let me go back so
you can really see what's
happening. Listen beforecharcoal.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
The quick video. Is
this like an audition or
something? No, mom. Just threeminutes. See my best sight.
I can play the piano. She's sochild. I am. I'm absolutely I'm
your mother after all. Keep on.
I start by telling us a littlebit about yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
There it is. Three
minutes. So you take a three
minute video. And you know whatthe creators of this, my
opinion, father forgive them forthey know not what they do. I
don't think some of these peoplehave any idea of what they're
opening up.
I mean, I really don't. So thisis where we are and I find it
absolutely incredible. I mean, Ireally do. A variety of AI
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products are currently beingadvertised that would allow
users to communicate with thedeceased relatives. Faversata
warned that allowing children tohear stories in the voice of a
deceased grandmother, an Amazonfeature reportedly in
development, risks confusingnecromancy with novelty.
We're on the same page herefather, I'm not going to call
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your father because I don'tbelieve I have one father, but
Mr. Sadha, I'm right there withyou. Sadha warned that it opens
the door for demoniccommunication and demons will
certainly manipulate and takeadvantage of that. While a
Catholic teaching holds that Godmay really allow a deceased soul
to request prayers. I don'tbelieve that at all.
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He stressed, if you have anentity that engages in a
conversation with a person,that's a demon. So we're on the
same page here. I'm not aCatholic, was raised a Catholic,
I'm an Evangelical, I'm bornagain as Spirit filled. But, you
know, we can talk about what wehave in common, alright? And
yet, doesn't the Bible includestories of people talking to the
dead?
So Samuel, I get that, but thatwas necromancy and that was not
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supposed to happen. And that wasone of the reasons why Saul was
condemned. So it's real, it canhappen, you could open the door
to that, but the Biblespecifically forbids it. Why?
Because the dead could beimpersonated.
AI encouraging self harm. Whenasked about reports of chatbots
encouraging self harm,inappropriate sexual
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conversations with minors, oreven instructing children to
locate knives in the home, theReverend was blunt. A demon
cannot actually kill a personbut what they do is they harass
them to the point that thatperson attempts suicide, Father
Sadda said. He noted that he haspersonally handled cases of
suicide or attempted suicideprecipitated by demonic
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harassment. The PhD inPsychology felt that AI is
another thing like mental healthconditions that can be exploited
to drive humans to self harm.
Despite a Vatican decreerequiring every diocese to
appoint an exorcist, Sotis said,many bishops either dismiss
demonic activity as purelypsychological or prevent
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appointed exorcists fromoperating in practice. Many
priests are not up on AI, hesaid. Rossetti said, We have got
to learn to become proactive onthis because it's going to
become a very serious problem.Sade indicated that he and
others are now studying theissue. Unbelievable.
Notwithstanding the emergence ofAI, Sade said pornography is
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still the biggest thing drawingpeople down today. There's no
doubt about it. Let's continueand that's basically it. Demons
hate us, they will do everythingin their power to destroy us,
and that is absolutely thetruth. There's no doubt about
that.
So AI, in my opinion, is openingdoors of a demonic. You saw the
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whole thing with Charlie, whichI've already reported on, but
I'm reporting on it again. Weare in a window of time. I'll
close by saying this (15:43):
it is
absolutely unprecedented.
Absolutely unprecedented.
And you need to understand thatwe need to circle the wagons.
The Church needs to wake up andstart talking against what is
happening all around us. I willsay this, that UFOs are there is
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going be disclosure at somepoint. This is why we're holding
the virtual conference onJanuary 16 and the seventeenth.
Virtual.
Don't have to go anywhere, butthere are 10 speakers. John, run
the ad and I'll see you at theend of the ad. Watch the ad.
Folks, Eli Marzulli here. Whathappens if our President Donald
J.
Trump makes an announcement fromthe White House? He looks right
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at the camera and he says, Weare not alone in the universe.
How does that affect you? Howdoes that affect your faith? How
does that affect what youbelieve in?
Folks, we have the answers thatwill shed light on this
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Ragier, and of course, L. A.Marzulli. Iron herself with the
truth from a Biblicalperspective.
Go to (17:11):
ww.deception2026.com
that's www.deception2026.com.
I'll see you there. Thanks fortuning in deception2026.com
deception2026.com now is thetime to get ahead of this
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phenomena. Why? Becausedisclosure is happening
everywhere and the Church and Ilove the Church and I'm part of
the Church is completely asleepon the issue for the most part.
Time to talk to yourcongregation, Time to wake up
young people because they'realready involved in it. Thanks
for watching. I'll see you againtomorrow.