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March 4, 2025 • 26 mins

Some gotta win, some gotta lose, and the #ladieswhoquestion critique #academyawards fashion and their take on the winners and losers of the nominated films. It's a quickie and a goodie. Thanks for listening!

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Welcome to Ladies Who Question and a quick, quick wrap up of the Oscars, which I did not

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see because I was in the air literally flying.
And so I did not get to see anything except for a couple of things late at night, whether
they were rerunning like the opening, which looked lovely, lovely.
Anyway, but we know who was on the case.
Holly.
Oh, I was on the case, but I didn't take notes.

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But that's okay.
It's so fresh that I think I remember stuff.
So I think we're going to talk about fashion.
Let's start with the fashion first, because that's the one thing I actually have in front
of me where I have a couple of pictures and looks and stuff.
And the first one in front of me will just kind of go, it looks like Kylie Jenner.
Oh, I didn't get a really good look of her.

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Okay.
Turn this around.
You can see that's her right there.
Oh, it's it's, you know, it's not.
I thought she was wearing black.
Wait, well, isn't that?
Oh, no, that's Cindy Crawford's daughter.
Oh, they kind of look like Kaya or Kira.
Kaya.
Kaya Gerber.

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Yeah.
Okay.
She was wearing black and she had boobs just smushing everywhere.
Oh, God, Kylie was.
Okay, well, then I guess that's how this podcast is going to go.
Like, where is this?
Oh, I don't know.
Okay.
And the next one I definitely don't know.
It's an Asian woman, very attractive in a real.
That's yeah, that's pretty.

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Is it beautiful?
And I think I have the name of that person.
It's quite a lovely sort of, oh, that was modern yet a throwback, but she has a body
killer body and she looks just lovely and all covered up and very sexy anyway.
Yes.
Who do you think that is?
I'm going to find out because I saw it in my little feed trail here after, I think, did

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you see Ariana Grande?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, it was weird.
It was weird.
Like, how is she going to sit down?
Yeah.
But I don't even know if she just wore it for the red carpet.
Yeah, because it didn't seem like she was wearing it.
Maybe I, maybe she could detach the defined gravity part, you know, and to, in order to

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sit down because I thought that I saw her without it, without the bizarre thing.
Yes, because she and Cynthia.
Arivo.
Arivo.
Yeah.
They sang.
I saw the, I saw the open.
Oh my God.
Oh, they saw it.
Gorge.
It was, oh.
So their outfits were changed.
Yeah.
I went literally from red carpet to boom, you're on.
Yeah.
And I don't think she was wearing the weird part.

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No, she wasn't.
So you could detach it.
They had totally different outfits though.
Oh, okay.
That's why I was like, whoa.
I'm going to let you just, well anyway, I don't know who this woman is, but she's delightful.
Then there's Sydney Sweeney.
I mean.
Gosh, I didn't see her either.
Boobs on display right there.
Oh, really?
Right there.
Oh boy.
But it's a, it's a pretty gown.
It is.
But it is, I mean, it is.

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And she's got a great body too.
But I mean, it just, yeah, boobalicious, but it's not like she was.
Boobalicious.
Well, it wasn't like she was, you know, pulling a Kanye's new wife thing, you know.
Oh no, no, no.
It just, it's just.
A deep cleavage.
And, you know, that's her calling card, right?
Right.
Okay.
And then the woman who won best actress, I believe, this was not a, no, not best actress.

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Maybe best supporting.
She's Zoe.
Zoe Saldana.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I have her in a completely different outfit.
You're kidding.
For the red carpet.
Oh, for the red carpet.
Well, maybe they changed, but then she wore that when she was being, when she won the
award, that's what she had on.
Okay.
And red carpet.
All right, that's weird.
These people change after going to the after party or, I don't know.

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I don't know.
Okay.
Well, anyway, let's.
We can't even keep up on it.
I know.
Well, okay.
I've got, here I've got Kendall Jenner.
That's it.
Kendall Jenner.
You have that one?
Let's see.
Black lace, lacy black thing.
It's sort of vamprella-ish.
Yeah, yeah, it is.
It is.
I mean, I like it.
It looks good on her body.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I think ribs are moved probably.
To me more.
Now, was she wearing a gold thing when you?
A gold, no silver.
Well, this looks like gold to me.
I thought it was silver on the, on the TV too.
Okay, wait a second.
Hold the phone.
Okay, are these all different?
Okay.
These are all so different from.

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How can this be?
Because she has, she had a silver like beaded gown on.
Oh, I did see that.
And that was absolutely beautiful.
Okay, we're not going to go by this vogue thing because I don't know where, this is
for the party.
Oh, this is the vanity fair party.
Oh, okay.
Look, that makes tons of sense.
See?

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Yep.
Do you see the underneath where she's standing?
Okay, so.
Okay, forget it.
No, this thing is going sideways already.
No, it's not going sideways.
Hey, that's life.
And so they all wear amazing, it's how many designer gowns can you wear because I think
the designers want to get their product out there as much as possible.
So they're patronizing like Chanel with three looks.

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Of course.
Oh, so that's okay.
So that's how it goes.
Yeah.
Okay, well then how about this?
You talk about the fashion that you know about.
Okay.
Because that's the actual Oscar fashion because other people weren't going, oh, wait, did they
wear the vanity fair party?
I mean.
Well, it's interesting to see that too.
Well, it is.
But we don't have.
We don't have all that stuff.
We don't have that bandwidth today.

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Okay.
So Zoe Saldana was wearing this.
Now look at her top breasts.
I don't like it.
It looks see-through, but it's not.
And I don't like it.
It's not flattering.
No, it's awkward.
It's just a sack and she's got a great figure.
Yeah.
And we'd be posting all these pictures too.
Yeah.
It's an awkward look.

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Scarlett Johansson, I don't know.
I think she could have done better.
It's very 1950s Oscars.
You know with the long gloves?
The long velvet gloves.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not bad.
No, but it's not a 10.
No.
I'm not sure about this one.
She wasn't up for anything though.
Where's she?
No.

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Okay.
Mickey Mason.
Mikey Mason.
Mikey Madison, the one who won.
Oh, Mikey Madison.
Correct.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I think that's very pretty.
I think it's quite elegant.
Pink in the black bandeau top sort of.
Right.
Pink satin, skirt and gown.
I think it's, I think it's quite elegant and lovely.
I don't like it, do you?

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I don't know.
I haven't, I don't know.
I'm trying to figure out her age too.
Oh, she looks young.
Yeah.
She's like 25 maybe.
Right.
At the most.
She's got an Oscar.
Wow.
Well, neither one of us saw that.
I did.
Oh, you watched?
Yeah, it was one I didn't like.
We'll talk about it in a minute.
And I didn't watch it because then you told me what it was about.
About sex workers.
It got everything.

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I can't.
I know it was the runaway, but we'll get into that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, that's Ariana Grande.
How did she detach that?
I don't understand.
The Ariana Grande, it's, it looked like a wave, like, like a peplum way exaggerated
out two feet all around her body and very, look like it was hard.

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Like it was not.
Like you can't sit.
Like it was thick fabric on the back.
I see the buttons in the back.
Yeah.
Um, it was okay.
It was a pretty color and she could wear that color was flattering, I guess.
It didn't move me.
No.
Well, I thought, I thought for her and the part she played, I thought it was appropriate.

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Absolutely.
Because it was fanciful, like all the costumes were in wicked.
Right.
Yes.
Exactly.
Yes.
I understand where you're going with that.
Okay.
This one, I cannot stand.
And the actress is Monica Barbaro.
Oh, Barbaro.
She was the one who was in a complete unknown.
She played, uh, Joan Baez, I think.
It looks like a bathing suit top.

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Oh, it ruined the whole skirt.
It's too bad because the whole skirt is just quite lovely.
I know.
I'm like, that light pink.
You guys don't worry.
We're going to post these so you can follow along, but we're just going to give you a
clues about what we think.
And you know, we're not fashion.
He's just, okay.
So I like, I'm a fan of this actor.
Yeah.

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Um, I did a couple of guys, Jeremy Strong.
I think he's so talented.
Oh, he is, but he always wears really weird stuff.
I liked it.
It's a little off, but not too off.
Oh gosh, for him, this is extremely middle right conservative.
Right.
Because remember he was wearing that green, um, what do you call it, not a dumper cap,
it's whatever that cap, the green, the bright green, the few.

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Yeah.
And the bright, bright green, um, it almost looked like a jogging suit, right?
Yeah.
It was, it was odd.
That was at the SAG Awards or something.
Yeah.
That was, but so this is, this is fabulous.
This is green, but it's like more of an olive green and it's a tuxedo with a, that's green.
Looks like pearl gray.
Oh, really?
Oh no, it isn't.

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It's a, it's a sort of an all, very olive kind of, I like it.
Yeah.
I think he looks great.
And I like that tie, the, the, how the tie is the cravat, I guess.
Maybe I don't know.
What they call it.
I don't know.
I'm just putting that out there.
I think Miley looked amazing.
Miley.
Oh my God.
Miley's all grown up.

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I know.
Too bad she has all this tattoo.
But that's a person, that's a personal opinion.
Right.
Cause she looks absolutely stunning.
She does.
She just looks great.
Yeah.
Okay.
This one, I think the dress is pretty, but what's your take on it?
It's so vanilla and she's very pale and all it does is blend into her skin.

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Yep.
It washed her out.
And it, and it, yeah.
Washed her out and she, you know, um, what's her name again?
Emma Stone.
Emma Stone.
That's too bad because she's a really beautiful woman.
And the haircut.
Well, she's had this short haircut.
I'm thinking it has to be for a part.
Well, it's got to be for a role, for sure.
But that, that, she didn't, that didn't do anything to emphasize her beauty or her body.

(10:16):
Exactly.
No.
I was like, uh, okay.
Next.
Oh, Celine, uh, Celine Gomez.
That's okay.
It's okay.
She looks great though, her hair, her hair is beautiful and her, her, um, jewelry is
lovely.

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I, you know, I don't know that it, she, she's so great like in a bright red, like, you know,
but anyway, I mean, it's okay.
It was a Ralph Lauren with tons and tons of beaded, you know, they say, oh, there's 22,000
beads that had to be sewn on whatever.
Well, and maybe in the, in better light or different light, it would be quite stunning
because maybe it's not catching the light.

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That's true.
The way that it was designed to, to do.
Okay.
I was really disappointed in Penelope Cruz because I'm a huge fan.
I, I like her.
But when I saw the outfit, I thought, what?
My goodness.
1970s.
Is this a share, a cross between Cher and 70s?
Yeah.
It's, yeah, yeah, there is that.
It's kind of, um, raggedy looking.
Yeah.

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It just does nothing for her.
No.
It's just hanging on her with a bunch of fabric.
Yeah.
I like her too.
I like this couple and I'll tell you why.
Um, Kieran Culkin.
Oh, yeah, and his wife.
Yeah.
Um, I'm just going to make a little note about the speech he gave when he won his Oscar.
Yeah.
Cause he said to his wife one day, what do I have to do to get another kid?

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And this was like a year ago or before he was ever entertaining getting an Oscar and
she goes, if you want an Oscar, I'll have more kids.
So he is up there ranting and raving about how about two, you promised me.
Can we go for two?
And she's so embarrassed and she's like squirreling around in her seat, but it was really cute.
Oh, that is funny.
Yeah.
That was darling.

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Leave it to him to seize the moment.
Oh yeah.
Oh my gosh, I bet.
I don't know.
She'll have to.
Yeah.
She'll have to.
Hmm.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
If anyone can pull, it's quite boy, it's like a bunch of glass glass on top of what
she pulls that mother off.

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Man, she looks.
Oh, well, always amazing.
But oh, she's so pretty.
That's quite an involved sort of, you know, gown.
Right.
But, you know, she's not wearing other other than earrings, which are not overdone.
So and it looks beautiful with her skin tone.
Yeah, it's really pretty.

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I wonder if it was hard to sit.
I'm sure it was.
I mean, it looks kind of like it would be stiff because it almost looks like it's metallic
fabric, but I don't, what does she care?
She's wearing it for, you know, effect.
I don't know who this person is.
It's beautiful.
But I don't know.
Oh, I don't know who she is.

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Long tuxedo.
It's kind of, you know what, I kind of like that.
I don't know if I'd like it for the Oscars.
It's like a long female tuxedo to the, like a tuxedo gown.
A tuxedo gown.
I kind of like it with the red flower.
Is it a flower there?
Yes.
Yeah, I mean.
I don't know who that person is.
I don't know who she is.
She looks very young.
Okay.

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So this is the dress that she was wearing.
Oh my God.
To the Oscars.
She, oh, to me more.
She looks fabulous.
It's a fabulous dress.
You have to have a very specific, I don't know, I'm going to start coughing again, body
type to wear that.
And she's got it.
She does.
Okay.
Who's next?

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Do you know?
Yeah.
Timothy Chalamet.
I heard he didn't win.
That's all I know.
He didn't.
I know.
I was so sad.
He wore a yellow tuxedo.
Oh.
What, what, like a light yellow canary yellow?
He's kind of a peacock when it comes to fashion.
Oh, huh.

(14:06):
You know, not bad, but doesn't, don't his pants need hamming?
The slacks?
I know.
That's kind of the style.
Okay.
I don't know.
I wonder if Kardashians are influencing his fashion.
Oh, who knows?
Yeah.
You know, he's always been sort of done strange things before, before it seems like they were
an item, but anyway.
Okay.

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And we'll round it out with Cynthia.
Oh my heavens.
Now that is a statement ball gown, isn't it?
But it, it's good because it's kind of witchy and she was a witch and wicked.
And green.
And green and it all fall.
It's a beautiful deep green, isn't it?
And the fingernails to go with.
That grosses me out.

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I'm sorry.
Just those long fingernails that look like Eagle Talons, but go to the bathroom.
Don't even start with that.
You know, I will be on overload.
I know.
I know.
I don't know how they do it.
So that's, that's a little bit of tidbit from the fashion.
I like that Oscars.
Okay.
I think we got some winners and losers.

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Okay.
Well, the, well, the one thing Conan O'Brien did a really good job.
Oh, wait, that's right.
Conan O'Brien.
Yeah.
And he acknowledged, you know, how do you acknowledge people randomly throughout the
night?
Yeah.
Well, the opening act, I thought was very, in very poor taste.
What was the opening act?

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He was talking about the substance and you see him below the stage and they show this
whole graphic of him climbing out of Demi Moore's body.
Oh, it sounds.
It was so disgusting.
Creepy.
Well, actually they, yeah, they already had filmed this somewhere.
Well, this is kind of, you said this is how this movie was.
Oh yeah, it was like the movie.
It was disgusting because alien like beings would be coming out of her body.

(15:56):
So that was what happened in the movie.
Yes.
And so he's crawling out of her body.
It's exactly the same shot where her whole back is split open.
Oh my.
And he's crawling out of it and then he dropped something in her body, like when he's crawling
out and then he dives back in, does like a total head dive.
And comes back out with it.

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And he's fishing around for a shoe or something.
Well, it sounds really gross.
It was disgusting.
And I know they like to do play on all the different movies, but that was awful.
I mean, I just know that when you told me you would watch the movie and how vile it
felt, I was like, well, I don't need that nightmare.

(16:38):
Oh, okay.
Well, I'm glad I didn't watch that.
But anyway.
I enjoyed the movie.
I'm glad I didn't watch it.
I just really enjoyed the movie.
So I really enjoyed the movie.
And then the show opened with the most beautiful duet.
Okay.
Now that I did see because there was, when I was, after I got home late at night, they
were kind of replaying some of the stuff and they showed that in total.
And I was like, oh my, that is impressive.

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And there, of course their voices blend so beautifully, but it was not a misstep in that
whole performance.
No, it was great.
And that's what they opened with.
And some of the networks this morning were saying, wow, they really opened on such a
high note.
Like, why did they open with like the best act practically first?
But no, it was a show suffered from the start.

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So then, well, winners and losers.
Leading actor, Adrian Brody for the Brutalist.
And which I did not see.
I did not see it either.
Because it looked gross.
Yeah.
Well, it's kind of interesting, I guess, about an architect back in the.
Oh, wait, what?
Yeah.
Why did why did we not want to see that?

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Well, I didn't.
I didn't ever see the trailer until recently.
I just thought Brutalist is probably brutal.
I was thinking he was about fights.
No, it's about an architect that after World War II, I believe it's a it's a historic
piece and it's an interesting story about a famous architect.
Well, then we were remiss in dismissing it.

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That's too bad.
That can go on the list.
I'm going to watch it for sure.
Yeah, OK.
And he gave a very, very long speech and he did when when they were saying, OK, the music
goes on, you have to stop.
Yeah.
He said, wait a minute, this is my second time around.
I could say what I want.
It was kind of cute.
And he did give a very lovely, I want to say not really political humanity speech.

(18:28):
Was it worth being a long speech?
What he said, was it of substance?
It was yes, it was just about being kind.
Let's get along.
Let's stop the wars.
Let's stop the fighting.
Let's and he is Jewish and so let's stop the anti-Semitism.
Anti-Semitism.
Well, there's nothing wrong with that message.
I mean, yeah, let's be kind.

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It was a good message and he was very passionate like he was about to cry kind of thing going
on to actor in a supporting role, Kieran Culkin.
And like I said, yeah, he's going to knock his wife up now.
So oh, that's that's so beautiful.
Yeah.
You put that and I did see, did you, you saw real pain?
Oh, I love that movie.

(19:10):
Yeah.
Well, of course, yes.
That was a good movie.
It was and meaningful.
And it's too bad that who is it?
Jesse, the guy, the other guy in the movie.
Oh, how come I can't think of his name?
The guy who started Facebook or whatever was called or whatever that I can't think of the
name of that movie.
Well, he didn't get any acolytes and that's too bad because he wrote it.

(19:34):
Accolades.
Do you mean accolades?
Yes.
I need to take a.
Well, you're fine.
We all know what my issues are.
Accolades.
Accolades.
Yeah.
Well, he didn't get nominated.
I know.
But then they would be competing against each other.
No, but I mean, just he wrote the movie.
I think he directed it too.
Oh, yeah.
He it was his movie.

(19:55):
Yeah.
But we he didn't get nominated for any of the other.
No, that's what was sad.
Well, wow.
I know.
That's an oversight.
But he was their chair in a month.
So that's OK.
Nice.
Best actress in a leading role, Mikey Madison.
And that was for a Nora, right?
Nora.
And yeah, they kept saying, oh, they got everything.
It swept the blah, blah, blah.

(20:16):
It did.
And did you see that one?
You saw that one.
I did.
That's right.
You said that.
I didn't like it.
No.
It's about a hooker, kind of a dark side of pretty woman.
And she's a hooker in Philly, I think that's where they filmed it, like Kensington, you
know, some kind of.
And there was a lot of praise towards sex workers saying that they're respected a lot.

(20:40):
And I really respect them because she hung out with them and she learned their jam and
how they operate.
And two speeches were about sex workers.
So it was in praise of sex workers?
It was.
I just want to say I have a lot more respect for sex workers.
Oh, you.
No, not me.
That's what they were saying when they accepted the award.

(21:01):
The director won, I believe, for that movie and she won.
Well, it won four or five.
So wow.
Yeah.
And they both praised the sex workers.
Hmm.
Just interesting.
Okay.
Well, do you remember specifically what about the sex workers that they were praising?
Well, they said it's a really, they didn't say it's a really hard job.

(21:23):
Oh, God.
But they did say we really have a lot more respect for sex workers.
Okay, I'll have to find that on YouTube and yes, and hear that because I have nothing
but sadness and sympathy for anyone who is a sex worker because I know I just do.
I totally agree.
Yeah.
Anyway, what's next?

(21:43):
Actress in a supporting role Zoe Saldana and she gave a very emotional speech or mommy.
She kept saying mommy, mommy.
Her mom was in the audience, but she said mommy.
Her family was there and that was for I forgot what she was in.
That was for Amelia Perez.
Oh, okay.
Oh, right.
Okay.
So.
But her mom was there in the audience.

(22:05):
First Dominican to receive an Oscar.
Oh, she's from Dominican Republic.
Another first.
Okay.
And so that and the best movie was, what is the most?
Well, it was a Nora, wasn't it?
Yes, it was a Nora.
Wow.
So I'm not going to go into all the like cinematography, film editing.
Yeah.
I always am interested in watching the documentaries.

(22:26):
Yeah.
So I want to not throw that list away because I want to look them up and watch them.
Okay.
Um, which one took it?
Took that?
No other land.
Hmm.
I don't, I don't.
It sounds like something about indigenous people that that just maybe that's what it
sounds like.
I have no idea.
I've never heard of it.
I didn't see it.

(22:46):
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I just, I heard something today.
You had to be on TV or on the radio.
It was, it's an international film and it only got, it wasn't widely released.
It only got into a few theaters.
So you, it's no wonder that nobody knows what it is because it didn't get released here

(23:08):
with its international film.
That's all I can remember from the conversation that I heard.
Okay.
That's all I got.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
That one kind of interests me because.
Oh, costume design.
I wouldn't think wicked, but I did.

(23:30):
Oh, it did.
It won, it won, it won.
Yes.
It was like the only one.
We play, we have a contest at our house.
We print out these pages.
Oh, look at that.
And then all this, well, it was just Tom, myself and my son.
Yeah.
Tom got 10 right.
I only got five right.
I usually win hands down.
And then Harper only had three.

(23:51):
Correct.
It was a complete unknown, conclave, gladiator two, naf is ferretu.
Oh, no, no sforatu.
Yeah.
No sforatu.
And then wicked and wicked one because they had so many different scenes where they had
so many different costumes.
Well, I mean, the costuming was fantastical.

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I mean, it's just, woo, your imagination gone wild because, well, it's us.
Right.
Right.
So cool.
I know.
Okay, I'm glad.
When they announced the costume design award, the Oscar, there's a person that was in each
movie that announced their nomination.

(24:33):
They were all dressed normal, except for the person from Wicked.
He was dressed like the little munchkin with the little shorts on and those little glasses.
And he looks around.
He goes, okay, you guys, I am the only one that got the memo.
We had to dress like our part.
And it was cute.
It was a cute little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They won.
So I mean, I wonder if they knew I had a time because that was a little coincident.

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Thank you.
I think that wraps it.
Oh, what else?
Production design Wicked also won.
Well, as it should.
If only just for in that, if you've seen the movie, if only for those crazy wheels that
they were dancing in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was scary.
Dizzy and scared thinking about that scene.

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Right.
So for design and production or whatever, oh my God, just for that, that's, that was
crazy to watch.
It was.
So that's a wrap.
Sounds like we covered the high points, right?
I think we did.
Yeah.
Okay.
We'll post a lot of these fashionable pictures.
Yeah, we'll put the fashion stuff on on our Instagram.
Thank you so much for listening.
I hope you liked it.

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Okay, I'm going to say bye.
Bye.
Goodbye.
Thanks, Harvey.
Ladies Who Question is executive produced and edited by me, Lisa Dominique, and also
executive produced by Holly Caulfield.

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assistance and social media.
Music, My Lion Heart.
Sketch Music by Florian Manx and Matthew Anderson.
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