February 12, 2025 • 28 mins
Lively Vs. Baldoni is the gossip gift that keeps on giving. Another day, another court filing. Have you seen ABC's "Scamanda" or listened to the eponymous podcast? It's simultaneously deeply sad and deeply scandalous. The Chicago Bears major mama goes to the great gridiron in the sky. RIP, Virginia McCaskey, and Go Bears! Ever wonder where those giant foam fingers at sports events came from? The Ladies know! And, by the time you read this, we will all know how well Tom Brady did in his #superbowl broadcast debut. Hit play now, please, for #ladieswhoquestion
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Hello and welcome to Ladies Who Question. We've got a grab bag of goodies today. Really,
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you know, recording this on Friday before the Super Bowl. So we have a couple of Super
Bowl treats and by the time you hear this, it'll be over. But these are somewhat, I don't
know what Holli's got, but these are kind of evergreen.
Okay.
You know, I mean, some of the stuff. And then of course we've got the usual goss, you know,
and let's lead that off. Okay. First of all, we got Blake versus Justin. We're going to
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talk about that first. You know, the Lively versus Baldoni. God that never ends. Yeah.
And it's got legs too is going to keep going, I guess. Scamanda, another installment aired
on ABC on Thursday night and not a whole lot of information was necessarily imparted. I
didn't think through this, but
No, but there's a few parts that I'd like to talk about that really upset me.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'll bet. And some good background, I thought. Talk about foam fingers and then
how he's got a couple of Super Bowl surprise stories. Well, they're going to be surprising
to me, but who knows? Anyway, now you have the scoop on the Justin.
I have. Yeah. Like, like lively.
What I first wanted to do was break down all the lawsuits because things kept just piling
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up and piling up. And I'll do this quickly, but you could see how much Justin has lost
in comparison. And you'll see it when I talk about all the lawsuits. OPR wise. Okay. Okay.
So, okay. December 20th, lively against Baldoni, sexual harassment. December 24th, Baldoni
sued by his ex publicist. So that's a bummer. Right when her lawsuit dropped the next day
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or four days later, he was sued by his ex publicist on 12 21, which was right after
Blake's suit dropped. Baldoni was dropped by his agency. December 31st, lively formally
filed a lawsuit against Baldoni in New York federal court. Is that the same? That's okay.
That's probably the same. What they're talking about on the 20th, where she was filing a
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civil suit against Baldoni and now she's filing a federal suit. So she's got the civil and
the federal. And in the meantime, he's being sued by his publicist and he's been dropped
by his agency. December 31st, Baldoni files a lawsuit against the New York Times for its
reporting on lively's allegations. January 16th, Baldoni files a countersuit against
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lively, her husband, her publicist and her PR firm. Wow. And that's just so far. And
so that's those are all the suits right now. And there's been a lot of posting of different
conversations by both of them between the two of them. Correct about the situation.
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And that has just thrown kerosene onto the whole fire. Yeah. One more thing happened.
That's not a lawsuit on December 23rd, Baldoni's podcast co host leaves the show amid the lawsuit
amid. Oh boy. Yeah. So he's he's lost everybody. And now he's fighting back. And this week.
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So some new interesting things have come up in the case. Taylor Swift. Well, because yeah,
there was a story that I saw yesterday was on so it was Wednesday that would be January
26th, I guess. What's today the seventh right? Yeah, yeah, February. Oh, February. That's
okay. Wow. Cold medicine is definitely taking its toll on my brain. That's okay. Anyway,
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I can't read. You can't remember what month we're in. So we're good. We're good pair.
So thanks for a list into the podcast. And she reportedly felt that she was being used
by Blake, because she did not want to be part of the lawsuit. And now she may be deposed
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by Baldoni's attorney correct in this because of that meeting, which she said she was apparently
this is okay, this is from TMZ, their sources and they're often pretty good. Yes, they are.
Now they really have an in on all the skinny according to them. Taylor felt used by Blake
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because Blake not only referred to her as one of her dragons, Blake being Scalisi and
Taylor's one of her dragons when she either left a text or a phone call for Justin late,
late one night or early in the morning, however you want to put it. And Taylor was not really
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necessarily saying she's part of that meeting. She was just over there dropping in or going
to pick her up for something or whatever. She's not a part of it. She was not there and she
didn't make any commentary on the script. Right. This is according to what we learned
from TMZ. And also, so she felt used by Blake and that either text or phone call that Blake
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left to Justin was preceded or was followed by 10 minutes afterward. Justin leaving that
long voicemail. So it just keeps on coming from the left from the right from the above.
And now Justin and now apparently Blake is lost a friend. We'll get a good song out of
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that. Right.
I wonder if she'll be at the Super Bowl oldest weekend. Oh, because that's right. Blake is
gone with to the Super Bowl with Taylor. Anyways, there's going to be enough enough of these
stories that Taylor could probably write four or five songs based on this just this whole
suit, the lawsuit, the material just keeps on presenting itself, just keeps on coming
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in. Oh, when Justin posted a 424 page, he posted everything about the lawsuit. You didn't hear
about that? No, I haven't found nearly as close as you have. Okay, it's 424 pages of
all the filings. He made him public and you can go to his website. He made a website based
on the case. Wow. Yeah, that is a man fired up. And I'm surprised there wasn't a gag order.
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Well, I thought they were trying to, I don't know, maybe that's another lawsuit or somebody
else's lawsuit. I don't, who knows. Well, the lawyers are winning. As usual. Yes. That's
I mean, of these high profile people, my God, they're going to make millions, whether they
win or lose. Is he also on that? Or does that about wrap it up? That about wraps it up. We'll
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have to we'll have to see what happens with Taylor. And if you have time, read the 24
424 page lawsuit, get onto his website. Yeah, well, which is weird. If you're that interested,
I hope you have a financial stake in the outcome because otherwise that ain't worth my time.
No, on to Scamander, which was on the second installment of the TV show on ABC Scamander
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about Amanda Riley, the woman who fleeced thousands of people out of God knows how much
money saying she had cancer. We talked about it last week, the first installment. There
wasn't I didn't feel a whole lot of meat in this particular second one there. There was
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a little bit of background from the first they were trying to catch people up who maybe
hadn't I think, you know, seen the first installment, right? But there were a couple of things
that irked me. Now, I know I've got mine, but what what what stood out for you? Or do
you want me to go first? Or you want to go? I Okay, well, a couple things. I mean, of
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course, every time this whole story is hard to watch because it's just her taking advantage
of vulnerable people and manipulating. Yes. And just it's awful. So first of all, Amanda's
husband's ex-wife, a letter. Yeah, a leader or a letter. I had it both ways. Yeah, I did
too. So let's decide on one. Alita Alita. Okay. It's really sad how she has lost so
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much because her daughter had cancer. Then Amanda and Corey go for full custody. And they
just rail wrote her to the bone and she can't do anything about it. And it was just horribly
sad. So you can see the pain in her eyes when she was being interviewed. Yeah. And I think
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she finally in on this episode, she called a reporter or a reporter called her a reporter
called her the Nancy that's doing the story. Nancey Mescatillo. Yes. Yeah. The investigative
journalist. And so she got ahold of her and then off to the races. They went to get her
side of the story because she had no idea what was going on. But then she everybody
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that's close to Amanda kind of had a weird feeling about it. Yeah. But they didn't know
what and they can't they didn't want to say anything. Because it's just awkward. Yeah.
A lot of them though, did notice that she never looked sick. Right. And they don't understand
how they she got all those photographs of her being in the hospital and so that was
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a part of the story. Then Corey's background where he they. Oh yeah. Like he doesn't like
to what does he even do for a living? Well, they never really talked about right. He's
not yet. But yeah, they did say his dad had died from suicide when he was young. Oh, Corey's
dad. Okay. So that probably imprinted on him in a certain way. I don't you know, but I
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don't they just it was in a mention. But didn't he file for bankruptcy and he filed for they
filed for bankruptcy when they were married when they were married when she was Alita
with Alita. I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. It was the Manda and that's like that's
either more bothersome because they're raking in all this money. Yep. Yep. It's just like
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he's a scammer too. So it finally shows that he had to be in on this. Well, how could he
not be right? You know, and made it he probably helped her with the photography and the needles
and to make it look like you're in chemo or you're in the hospital again. And it's just
so weird who else would he had to have been and maybe eventually he'll get his just dessert.
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But there's a gal Angie who's a cancer survivor. Oh, she's the one who donated all the platelets.
Yes. Oh, that was sad. That was sick. She went to the church, she goes to the big Hallelujah
church, family community church in San Jose. Yep. And her heart broke. She goes, you know,
I don't really make a lot of money, but this is what I can do to help you. And she donated
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platelets, not necessarily they were going to her, but she did it in her name. And it
was just so sad because she was so believing to the whole story. Yes, Corey and Amanda
did file for bankruptcy. Yeah. I here's another thing in the clinical trial, they were saying,
oh, we need money for the clinical trial. And it's in New York. And I'm thinking, I don't,
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I didn't, I don't know, I'm not familiar with clinical trials. I should probably ask one
of my friends about this who is involved in this sort of thing. Why would she have to
pay to be in a clinical trial? Don't they want to have to write, that's what I thought.
I knew somebody that did a clinical trial. And they are actually paid not much, but
they are, well, they take care of their hotel because I know this person had to go from
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Southern California to San Francisco once or twice a month. And they paid for everything.
I don't know if they paid for their flight. I think they did, but I know they, you know,
they put them up and yeah. See, and so that didn't make sense to me. And that was what
stuck out from this episode for a minute. Right. Yeah. The trips to New York. And well,
I thought she was getting treatment in New York. Also, no, well, I think that, well,
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she was getting treatment, but I thought that was part of the clinical trial because
I remember later in the, um, in the podcast series, there were, she was talking about
how, oh, I don't have to go back to New York for this one. The doctor said I can take it
home with me. I can do the, no, clinical trials are strictly controlled area. People are taking
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notes. And another thing it's, she lives in San Jose, which is very close to Stanford
Hospital and also University of San Francisco, which are amazing medical centers. And she's
flying back to New York. Yeah. See, nothing. I can't believe all these people let this
go on for so long. Yeah. Just more of this is not. Oh, and then they, they hired, well,
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they reported it to the police and he really didn't know what to do at first with the information.
The investigative reporter, remember that guy? Martinez. Yeah. Martinez. And he's like,
okay, now, hmm, how do I start this case? But he dug right in. Yeah. Uh, cause he'd
never had a case like this before. Well, it's probably not a common kind of case. No. I
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mean, and, and expects to, especially the extent to which she went to, just elicit funds and
cover up and exactly, you know, manipulate with her story. Anyway, I, that was all I
got out of that episode. I didn't get a whole lot more. I think that's it too. Yeah. Um,
I'd like to move on to thumb fingers. Yeah. I don't even know what you're talking about.
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Okay. When you said foam fingers, I go, I'm not going to ask. I'll let you surprise me.
Oh, as soon as I, as soon as I start to tell you about this, you'll, you'll know what I'm
talking about. You know, when you go to, this is sort of a Super Bowl story. This is just
sort of a, a story story. Okay. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Just come here real quick. Okay. There
was something I just remembered. Here's what grossed me out about this disgusting story
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story, how she wormed her way into the family when they showed videos of her, did you see
this part? Did you see the whole thing? It showed her, she was hired as a babysitter
for them, for the two girls, Jesse and Jamie, Corey and Alita's. Alita, nanny. So they hired
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her on as a babysitter. And then there were videos of her with the two young girls doing
showing them cheers and doing tumbling and other things like that dances. And then there
was one video where they were in some sort of competition. Scamanda didn't like how it
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went. Cause she didn't get, they got a 6.6 out of 10 or something. Scamanda sends the
two little girls over to the judges to say, you should get a better score. Oh my God.
Did she cause the divorce? Well, that was not really, it seems kind of like it. It seems
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like it, but I don't know how soon after, I can't recall how soon after they got together
after the divorce. Okay. You know, or if they were cheating at the time, she was nannying.
Yeah. That's a common thing. Yeah. Well, the way she wormed her way into the family just
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nauseated me. We're gonna take a quick break. Now I'm like, talk, come back and talk about
foam fingers and how they all got started. Okay. Okay, we're back and foam fingers. I
don't know why. Remember gold finger. Yes, gold finger. But foam fingers. I thought this
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was a timely, I've always kind of wondered how things start, trend start, you know, silly
stuff like bobbleheads, how that's, you know what I mean? Right. Oh, maybe we could do
that too. But anyway, I found this one. Okay, foam fingers, you know, they're probably gonna
be all over the, the Super Bowl. They're always everywhere. Oh, these foam fingers. Okay. Yeah.
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The big fingers that you see in the stands, then people are holding like number one. That's
right. Team on it. Oh, foam thing. Okay. Got it. I got the visual now. That's so fun. I
can see why you'd be wondering. She's putting something on foamy stuff. Like, yeah, it's
okay. That's why I put it, you know, in the context of the game, you know, anyway, got
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it. So 1971, an Iowa high school student, student, his name is Steve Schemler. This
is from Mental Floss Magazine, by the way, he got this hair of an idea, and he built
one for his basketball team. He made it out of cloth and paper mache. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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It's 1971. He's just like, oh, this would be cool. Yeah, exactly. So, and that was the
end of that for the young man, at least according to this article. Six years later, a Texas
guy, Gerald Foss, he made 400 of them out of Masonite, which is some kind of an engineered
wood. I know I've seen it used before. I think they use that sometimes to fill in cracks.
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I don't know in wood floor. I'm not sure. But anyway, they made out of Masonite. So
it's kind of heavy. Yeah. You know, but still, he built it to raise money for a school club.
Who knows if he heard about it from the Iowa kid or whatever, or he saw it, or he maybe
he came up with this idea on his, I don't know, don't know, could have been out there
in the atmosphere and oh, foam finger. Yeah. Anyway, so he made 400 of them for that game.
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Then he made a whole bunch of them for the 1978 Cotton Bowl. Oh. Yeah. And that's when
they, I guess it just exploded, because he made them out of foam, I guess. He didn't
make them out of the Masonite. He figured out how to make them lightweight. Everybody
can have one. Right. And then he founded a company shortly thereafter when people went
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insane at the Cotton Bowl, like, Oh, no, I get a foam finger. Oh, wow. And he made them
out of foam and the rest is history. There's not a whole lot more of this story. But that's
how we got the phone finger. Is he still doing this today? I don't think so. I don't think
that was in there. And I don't know if he started this business back in 78. And you
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know, he may not be a billionaire. Well, no, he may not be around. Right. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I don't know. Or maybe he's still cranking him out or his company is and maybe his kids
are in charge of his company, but I didn't go that deep into this story. That's a fun
story. Yeah. Anyway, it's timely and it's Super Bowl. So you've got a couple of, you
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said Super Bowl surprise stories for me. I don't want this to be a sad story. I think
it could be an interesting story. We lost Virginia McCaskey this week. Oh, that's right.
She's the co owner of the Chicago Bears. Yes, she is. And I did a little deep dive because
I knew there was more to it. Well, first of all, she passed away at 102. Yeah. Wow. And
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she was one of the one of 10 female owners of a football team. And so her father in 1920
started the Bears and bought the team for $100. Oh, is that really? In 1920. Papa Bear.
And her, the team is worth how much? Now. Oh, how many billion? I don't know. 6.4 billion.
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Yeah. That sounds about right. So that $100 investment paid off. Who owns the team? Well,
she owns 20%, Virginia owns 20% and the rest of her family members, which she has 11 children.
Wait, there are 11 kids? 11 kids. Yep. She's got a big family. She has 11 children, 21
grandchildren, 35 great grandchildren and four great, great grandchildren. Wow. Yeah. I didn't
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realize this. It's a family was that big group. And she still lived in her little humble ranch
in Des Plaines. Yeah, I saw it. 17 hundred square feet little house. Yeah, it was really
small. Yeah. So I guess 11 of her children are the other part owners of the team. It'll
be interesting to see what happens. Going back a little bit, she was married to her husband
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for 60 years, a great marriage. And in 2003, he died. And at 83, she became an owner of
a team. Wow. No. She was probably always a co-owner. Yeah, I mean, it was her dad who
started it. So, Mckaskey, her husband, came to it through her. Right. That's right. You're
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absolutely right. Yeah, Virginia, Hela, Mckaskey. So her husband, you know, he was really involved
in the team, but like she was there for everything and she never wanted to sell the team. So
it'll be interesting to see what happens to the team. What do you think is going to happen?
I mean, I feel like they're probably going to sell it. I kind of think so. Yeah. You
hear things about the children not being that interested or show me the money. Yeah, exactly.
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Exactly. So that'll be interesting. Yeah. But anyways, since the bears are in our neighborhood,
literally, it was just, it was nice to, oh, and he also, he who? Virginia's father also
started the first Super Bowl. Oh, he's the one who started that. He started the Super Bowl.
That's where I was going with the story. And I just forgot to say that important tidbit.
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I did not know that. So. Okay. Yeah. That's a big deal. Yeah, it is. Okay. Well, that's a good
Super Bowl story, Super Bowl related. My other Super Bowl story, which really is
that Super Bowl-y, but it's interesting because Tom Brady is now, he's going to be one of the
announcers at the Super Bowl. Are you a fan of Tom Brady? I think he has a lot of expertise at what
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he did. And as a human being, I don't know him. That's, you know, what more can I say? I guess
I'm not a super fan. I would have been, oh, I love him. Right. No, I don't like that he and
Bridget Moynihan, he was having a really stupid Bridget Moynihan and she's pregnant. And then he's
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like, well, no, no, I've fallen in love with the Giselle or whatever it was. I don't really know
what came first. Like, did they break up? And then she's pregnant. Well, no, she was pregnant, but
I just don't know the order at which and it's really, who cares what I think.
Right. But no, that plays a part in his whole persona and, you know, his past.
It's skewed a little bit for me. So he was interviewed this morning about
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him being an announcer for the Super Bowl and how he's been studying up like crazy. He goes,
I didn't just study up two weeks ago. This started, he said his start to study up for the Super
Bowl started in August. Well, he's nothing if not a student of what he needs to know and look what
he did with himself. He was an also ran, you know, when the fact that he even played in the NFL or
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picked up was an amazing and look what he did. Exactly. So that is admirable. He's applying
perfectionism to his new position as a, as a sport reporter. Yeah. And he is working his tail
off. He goes, Oh my God, I've got, he's taken so many notes because he wants to make sure he's so
prepared. He goes, I'll probably be able to say five things from my two hours worth of notes.
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Yeah. But interestingly enough, Giselle had her baby yesterday. Oh, I did hear about that.
So I was like pulling it all together. Not with Tom. Not with Tom. With the new boyfriend.
With the new boyfriend, Joaquin Valenti. She's 44. I didn't know. I thought she was older than
that. I didn't know how old she was. I mean, she's gorgeous. So yeah. So we've got the Super Bowl,
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the baby was born Wednesday and Tom's going to be talking about, he's going to be announcing.
So I just thought that was a funny story where it kind of came full circle. Well,
it does, it does come full circle. There's another Super Bowl related story. It'll be interesting to
see how at ease or not he is in front of the camera and in discourse talking about, you know, the game.
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He certainly will be well armed with knowledge. I mean, I gotta admire his due diligence. Good for
him. So let's just see. He seems to me like Mr. Personality. No, you know, but he seems a little
stiff. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it's hard to, he's completely switching positions about what, when
he had to go in front of the camera as a player, as the quarterback. This is so different. I mean,
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so I, you know, I give him a little bit of slack for that, right? Yeah. Oh no, it's, he'll have a
little learning curve along the way. So two things. Who are you rooting for? I'm rooting for the Eagles.
I am too. Yeah. I would love to see them win. I would love to see them win. Yeah. It would be nice.
And then there's all this weird speculation that, okay, do you think Kelsey proposed to Taylor on
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the field? Oh, I know. I mean, Travis. I mean, Travis, Kelsey. Right. Travis, Kelsey. No way.
No way. I mean, even if they win and somebody's like, oh, his brother might have the ring in his
pocket and come up to him. And I'm like, no, that doesn't seem like their MO. No stinking way.
They don't want to be public with something like that. No. That would be, that would take over
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all the media from the winner or loser of the game, the winner, to them. And would you imagine,
and I think she'd be pissed. Yeah. She'd be probably pissed and embarrassed and like, what?
And let's think of Travis Kelsey's ego. He, why would he want to distract from his moment of glory?
Right. Or if he loses, he's not gonna, yeah, he's, well, no, it's just a bad idea. Yeah. I'm,
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I think this is just public that's brought up these like funny little fantasy world things.
Yeah. There's a lot. My, my, my thumbs down on that ain't gonna happen. Yeah. Ain't gonna happen,
but I can't wait to see what she's wearing. Hmm. Okay. Well, she, she looks good. I loved what
she wore to the Grammys. I thought she looked darling. Oh, that red number. Yeah. With the little
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necklace kind of coming down her leg. I have never seen a thigh. What would be called the
thigh clasp? A thigh clasp. I can't, I don't know. I looked at that. I went, first I thought,
that's not a tattoo. She's a neck tattoo. Well, that's what I thought. And then I saw it and I
go, oh, it's a necklace. Really delicate and cool and understated. It was well done. Kind of sneaky
sexy. It was sneaky sexy. Yeah. Kind of peeking out from her leg. I liked that. Yeah. No, she,
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she pulled it off well. Yeah. That was a great red. Oh, yeah. She loves red and the lipstick. Yeah.
Yeah. That's kind of her. She can, she's tall and she's fit and she can carry anything off. So
good for her. Okay. Well, hey, a lot to talk about today. Yeah. And I think it's time to wrap it up.
I'm done. Okay. All right. Let's wrap it up and let's just go eagles. Go eagles. Fly baby fly.
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Hello and welcome to Ladies Who Question. We've got a grab bag of goodies today. Really,
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you know, recording this on Friday before the Super Bowl. So we have a couple of Super
Bowl treats and by the time you hear this, it'll be over. But these are somewhat, I don't
know what Holli's got, but these are kind of evergreen.
Okay.
You know, I mean, some of the stuff. And then of course we've got the usual goss, you know,
and let's lead that off. Okay. First of all, we got Blake versus Justin. We're going to
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talk about that first. You know, the Lively versus Baldoni. God that never ends. Yeah.
And it's got legs too is going to keep going, I guess. Scamanda, another installment aired
on ABC on Thursday night and not a whole lot of information was necessarily imparted. I
didn't think through this, but
No, but there's a few parts that I'd like to talk about that really upset me.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'll bet. And some good background, I thought. Talk about foam fingers and then
how he's got a couple of Super Bowl surprise stories. Well, they're going to be surprising
to me, but who knows? Anyway, now you have the scoop on the Justin.
I have. Yeah. Like, like lively.
What I first wanted to do was break down all the lawsuits because things kept just piling
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up and piling up. And I'll do this quickly, but you could see how much Justin has lost
in comparison. And you'll see it when I talk about all the lawsuits. OPR wise. Okay. Okay.
So, okay. December 20th, lively against Baldoni, sexual harassment. December 24th, Baldoni
sued by his ex publicist. So that's a bummer. Right when her lawsuit dropped the next day
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or four days later, he was sued by his ex publicist on 12 21, which was right after
Blake's suit dropped. Baldoni was dropped by his agency. December 31st, lively formally
filed a lawsuit against Baldoni in New York federal court. Is that the same? That's okay.
That's probably the same. What they're talking about on the 20th, where she was filing a
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civil suit against Baldoni and now she's filing a federal suit. So she's got the civil and
the federal. And in the meantime, he's being sued by his publicist and he's been dropped
by his agency. December 31st, Baldoni files a lawsuit against the New York Times for its
reporting on lively's allegations. January 16th, Baldoni files a countersuit against
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lively, her husband, her publicist and her PR firm. Wow. And that's just so far. And
so that's those are all the suits right now. And there's been a lot of posting of different
conversations by both of them between the two of them. Correct about the situation.
(02:55):
And that has just thrown kerosene onto the whole fire. Yeah. One more thing happened.
That's not a lawsuit on December 23rd, Baldoni's podcast co host leaves the show amid the lawsuit
amid. Oh boy. Yeah. So he's he's lost everybody. And now he's fighting back. And this week.
(03:16):
So some new interesting things have come up in the case. Taylor Swift. Well, because yeah,
there was a story that I saw yesterday was on so it was Wednesday that would be January
26th, I guess. What's today the seventh right? Yeah, yeah, February. Oh, February. That's
okay. Wow. Cold medicine is definitely taking its toll on my brain. That's okay. Anyway,
(03:42):
I can't read. You can't remember what month we're in. So we're good. We're good pair.
So thanks for a list into the podcast. And she reportedly felt that she was being used
by Blake, because she did not want to be part of the lawsuit. And now she may be deposed
(04:05):
by Baldoni's attorney correct in this because of that meeting, which she said she was apparently
this is okay, this is from TMZ, their sources and they're often pretty good. Yes, they are.
Now they really have an in on all the skinny according to them. Taylor felt used by Blake
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because Blake not only referred to her as one of her dragons, Blake being Scalisi and
Taylor's one of her dragons when she either left a text or a phone call for Justin late,
late one night or early in the morning, however you want to put it. And Taylor was not really
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necessarily saying she's part of that meeting. She was just over there dropping in or going
to pick her up for something or whatever. She's not a part of it. She was not there and she
didn't make any commentary on the script. Right. This is according to what we learned
from TMZ. And also, so she felt used by Blake and that either text or phone call that Blake
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left to Justin was preceded or was followed by 10 minutes afterward. Justin leaving that
long voicemail. So it just keeps on coming from the left from the right from the above.
And now Justin and now apparently Blake is lost a friend. We'll get a good song out of
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that. Right.
I wonder if she'll be at the Super Bowl oldest weekend. Oh, because that's right. Blake is
gone with to the Super Bowl with Taylor. Anyways, there's going to be enough enough of these
stories that Taylor could probably write four or five songs based on this just this whole
suit, the lawsuit, the material just keeps on presenting itself, just keeps on coming
(05:57):
in. Oh, when Justin posted a 424 page, he posted everything about the lawsuit. You didn't hear
about that? No, I haven't found nearly as close as you have. Okay, it's 424 pages of
all the filings. He made him public and you can go to his website. He made a website based
on the case. Wow. Yeah, that is a man fired up. And I'm surprised there wasn't a gag order.
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Well, I thought they were trying to, I don't know, maybe that's another lawsuit or somebody
else's lawsuit. I don't, who knows. Well, the lawyers are winning. As usual. Yes. That's
I mean, of these high profile people, my God, they're going to make millions, whether they
win or lose. Is he also on that? Or does that about wrap it up? That about wraps it up. We'll
(06:44):
have to we'll have to see what happens with Taylor. And if you have time, read the 24
424 page lawsuit, get onto his website. Yeah, well, which is weird. If you're that interested,
I hope you have a financial stake in the outcome because otherwise that ain't worth my time.
No, on to Scamander, which was on the second installment of the TV show on ABC Scamander
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about Amanda Riley, the woman who fleeced thousands of people out of God knows how much
money saying she had cancer. We talked about it last week, the first installment. There
wasn't I didn't feel a whole lot of meat in this particular second one there. There was
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a little bit of background from the first they were trying to catch people up who maybe
hadn't I think, you know, seen the first installment, right? But there were a couple of things
that irked me. Now, I know I've got mine, but what what what stood out for you? Or do
you want me to go first? Or you want to go? I Okay, well, a couple things. I mean, of
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course, every time this whole story is hard to watch because it's just her taking advantage
of vulnerable people and manipulating. Yes. And just it's awful. So first of all, Amanda's
husband's ex-wife, a letter. Yeah, a leader or a letter. I had it both ways. Yeah, I did
too. So let's decide on one. Alita Alita. Okay. It's really sad how she has lost so
(08:16):
much because her daughter had cancer. Then Amanda and Corey go for full custody. And they
just rail wrote her to the bone and she can't do anything about it. And it was just horribly
sad. So you can see the pain in her eyes when she was being interviewed. Yeah. And I think
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she finally in on this episode, she called a reporter or a reporter called her a reporter
called her the Nancy that's doing the story. Nancey Mescatillo. Yes. Yeah. The investigative
journalist. And so she got ahold of her and then off to the races. They went to get her
side of the story because she had no idea what was going on. But then she everybody
(08:59):
that's close to Amanda kind of had a weird feeling about it. Yeah. But they didn't know
what and they can't they didn't want to say anything. Because it's just awkward. Yeah.
A lot of them though, did notice that she never looked sick. Right. And they don't understand
how they she got all those photographs of her being in the hospital and so that was
(09:22):
a part of the story. Then Corey's background where he they. Oh yeah. Like he doesn't like
to what does he even do for a living? Well, they never really talked about right. He's
not yet. But yeah, they did say his dad had died from suicide when he was young. Oh, Corey's
dad. Okay. So that probably imprinted on him in a certain way. I don't you know, but I
(09:42):
don't they just it was in a mention. But didn't he file for bankruptcy and he filed for they
filed for bankruptcy when they were married when they were married when she was Alita
with Alita. I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. It was the Manda and that's like that's
either more bothersome because they're raking in all this money. Yep. Yep. It's just like
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he's a scammer too. So it finally shows that he had to be in on this. Well, how could he
not be right? You know, and made it he probably helped her with the photography and the needles
and to make it look like you're in chemo or you're in the hospital again. And it's just
so weird who else would he had to have been and maybe eventually he'll get his just dessert.
(10:27):
But there's a gal Angie who's a cancer survivor. Oh, she's the one who donated all the platelets.
Yes. Oh, that was sad. That was sick. She went to the church, she goes to the big Hallelujah
church, family community church in San Jose. Yep. And her heart broke. She goes, you know,
I don't really make a lot of money, but this is what I can do to help you. And she donated
(10:51):
platelets, not necessarily they were going to her, but she did it in her name. And it
was just so sad because she was so believing to the whole story. Yes, Corey and Amanda
did file for bankruptcy. Yeah. I here's another thing in the clinical trial, they were saying,
oh, we need money for the clinical trial. And it's in New York. And I'm thinking, I don't,
(11:11):
I didn't, I don't know, I'm not familiar with clinical trials. I should probably ask one
of my friends about this who is involved in this sort of thing. Why would she have to
pay to be in a clinical trial? Don't they want to have to write, that's what I thought.
I knew somebody that did a clinical trial. And they are actually paid not much, but
they are, well, they take care of their hotel because I know this person had to go from
(11:34):
Southern California to San Francisco once or twice a month. And they paid for everything.
I don't know if they paid for their flight. I think they did, but I know they, you know,
they put them up and yeah. See, and so that didn't make sense to me. And that was what
stuck out from this episode for a minute. Right. Yeah. The trips to New York. And well,
I thought she was getting treatment in New York. Also, no, well, I think that, well,
(11:59):
she was getting treatment, but I thought that was part of the clinical trial because
I remember later in the, um, in the podcast series, there were, she was talking about
how, oh, I don't have to go back to New York for this one. The doctor said I can take it
home with me. I can do the, no, clinical trials are strictly controlled area. People are taking
(12:22):
notes. And another thing it's, she lives in San Jose, which is very close to Stanford
Hospital and also University of San Francisco, which are amazing medical centers. And she's
flying back to New York. Yeah. See, nothing. I can't believe all these people let this
go on for so long. Yeah. Just more of this is not. Oh, and then they, they hired, well,
(12:47):
they reported it to the police and he really didn't know what to do at first with the information.
The investigative reporter, remember that guy? Martinez. Yeah. Martinez. And he's like,
okay, now, hmm, how do I start this case? But he dug right in. Yeah. Uh, cause he'd
never had a case like this before. Well, it's probably not a common kind of case. No. I
(13:08):
mean, and, and expects to, especially the extent to which she went to, just elicit funds and
cover up and exactly, you know, manipulate with her story. Anyway, I, that was all I
got out of that episode. I didn't get a whole lot more. I think that's it too. Yeah. Um,
I'd like to move on to thumb fingers. Yeah. I don't even know what you're talking about.
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Okay. When you said foam fingers, I go, I'm not going to ask. I'll let you surprise me.
Oh, as soon as I, as soon as I start to tell you about this, you'll, you'll know what I'm
talking about. You know, when you go to, this is sort of a Super Bowl story. This is just
sort of a, a story story. Okay. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Just come here real quick. Okay. There
was something I just remembered. Here's what grossed me out about this disgusting story
(13:54):
story, how she wormed her way into the family when they showed videos of her, did you see
this part? Did you see the whole thing? It showed her, she was hired as a babysitter
for them, for the two girls, Jesse and Jamie, Corey and Alita's. Alita, nanny. So they hired
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her on as a babysitter. And then there were videos of her with the two young girls doing
showing them cheers and doing tumbling and other things like that dances. And then there
was one video where they were in some sort of competition. Scamanda didn't like how it
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went. Cause she didn't get, they got a 6.6 out of 10 or something. Scamanda sends the
two little girls over to the judges to say, you should get a better score. Oh my God.
Did she cause the divorce? Well, that was not really, it seems kind of like it. It seems
(14:57):
like it, but I don't know how soon after, I can't recall how soon after they got together
after the divorce. Okay. You know, or if they were cheating at the time, she was nannying.
Yeah. That's a common thing. Yeah. Well, the way she wormed her way into the family just
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nauseated me. We're gonna take a quick break. Now I'm like, talk, come back and talk about
foam fingers and how they all got started. Okay. Okay, we're back and foam fingers. I
don't know why. Remember gold finger. Yes, gold finger. But foam fingers. I thought this
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was a timely, I've always kind of wondered how things start, trend start, you know, silly
stuff like bobbleheads, how that's, you know what I mean? Right. Oh, maybe we could do
that too. But anyway, I found this one. Okay, foam fingers, you know, they're probably gonna
be all over the, the Super Bowl. They're always everywhere. Oh, these foam fingers. Okay. Yeah.
(16:00):
The big fingers that you see in the stands, then people are holding like number one. That's
right. Team on it. Oh, foam thing. Okay. Got it. I got the visual now. That's so fun. I
can see why you'd be wondering. She's putting something on foamy stuff. Like, yeah, it's
okay. That's why I put it, you know, in the context of the game, you know, anyway, got
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it. So 1971, an Iowa high school student, student, his name is Steve Schemler. This
is from Mental Floss Magazine, by the way, he got this hair of an idea, and he built
one for his basketball team. He made it out of cloth and paper mache. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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It's 1971. He's just like, oh, this would be cool. Yeah, exactly. So, and that was the
end of that for the young man, at least according to this article. Six years later, a Texas
guy, Gerald Foss, he made 400 of them out of Masonite, which is some kind of an engineered
wood. I know I've seen it used before. I think they use that sometimes to fill in cracks.
(17:07):
I don't know in wood floor. I'm not sure. But anyway, they made out of Masonite. So
it's kind of heavy. Yeah. You know, but still, he built it to raise money for a school club.
Who knows if he heard about it from the Iowa kid or whatever, or he saw it, or he maybe
he came up with this idea on his, I don't know, don't know, could have been out there
in the atmosphere and oh, foam finger. Yeah. Anyway, so he made 400 of them for that game.
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Then he made a whole bunch of them for the 1978 Cotton Bowl. Oh. Yeah. And that's when
they, I guess it just exploded, because he made them out of foam, I guess. He didn't
make them out of the Masonite. He figured out how to make them lightweight. Everybody
can have one. Right. And then he founded a company shortly thereafter when people went
(17:57):
insane at the Cotton Bowl, like, Oh, no, I get a foam finger. Oh, wow. And he made them
out of foam and the rest is history. There's not a whole lot more of this story. But that's
how we got the phone finger. Is he still doing this today? I don't think so. I don't think
that was in there. And I don't know if he started this business back in 78. And you
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know, he may not be a billionaire. Well, no, he may not be around. Right. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I don't know. Or maybe he's still cranking him out or his company is and maybe his kids
are in charge of his company, but I didn't go that deep into this story. That's a fun
story. Yeah. Anyway, it's timely and it's Super Bowl. So you've got a couple of, you
(18:43):
said Super Bowl surprise stories for me. I don't want this to be a sad story. I think
it could be an interesting story. We lost Virginia McCaskey this week. Oh, that's right.
She's the co owner of the Chicago Bears. Yes, she is. And I did a little deep dive because
I knew there was more to it. Well, first of all, she passed away at 102. Yeah. Wow. And
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she was one of the one of 10 female owners of a football team. And so her father in 1920
started the Bears and bought the team for $100. Oh, is that really? In 1920. Papa Bear.
And her, the team is worth how much? Now. Oh, how many billion? I don't know. 6.4 billion.
(19:31):
Yeah. That sounds about right. So that $100 investment paid off. Who owns the team? Well,
she owns 20%, Virginia owns 20% and the rest of her family members, which she has 11 children.
Wait, there are 11 kids? 11 kids. Yep. She's got a big family. She has 11 children, 21
grandchildren, 35 great grandchildren and four great, great grandchildren. Wow. Yeah. I didn't
(19:56):
realize this. It's a family was that big group. And she still lived in her little humble ranch
in Des Plaines. Yeah, I saw it. 17 hundred square feet little house. Yeah, it was really
small. Yeah. So I guess 11 of her children are the other part owners of the team. It'll
be interesting to see what happens. Going back a little bit, she was married to her husband
(20:21):
for 60 years, a great marriage. And in 2003, he died. And at 83, she became an owner of
a team. Wow. No. She was probably always a co-owner. Yeah, I mean, it was her dad who
started it. So, Mckaskey, her husband, came to it through her. Right. That's right. You're
(20:48):
absolutely right. Yeah, Virginia, Hela, Mckaskey. So her husband, you know, he was really involved
in the team, but like she was there for everything and she never wanted to sell the team. So
it'll be interesting to see what happens to the team. What do you think is going to happen?
I mean, I feel like they're probably going to sell it. I kind of think so. Yeah. You
hear things about the children not being that interested or show me the money. Yeah, exactly.
(21:11):
Exactly. So that'll be interesting. Yeah. But anyways, since the bears are in our neighborhood,
literally, it was just, it was nice to, oh, and he also, he who? Virginia's father also
started the first Super Bowl. Oh, he's the one who started that. He started the Super Bowl.
That's where I was going with the story. And I just forgot to say that important tidbit.
(21:34):
I did not know that. So. Okay. Yeah. That's a big deal. Yeah, it is. Okay. Well, that's a good
Super Bowl story, Super Bowl related. My other Super Bowl story, which really is
that Super Bowl-y, but it's interesting because Tom Brady is now, he's going to be one of the
announcers at the Super Bowl. Are you a fan of Tom Brady? I think he has a lot of expertise at what
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he did. And as a human being, I don't know him. That's, you know, what more can I say? I guess
I'm not a super fan. I would have been, oh, I love him. Right. No, I don't like that he and
Bridget Moynihan, he was having a really stupid Bridget Moynihan and she's pregnant. And then he's
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like, well, no, no, I've fallen in love with the Giselle or whatever it was. I don't really know
what came first. Like, did they break up? And then she's pregnant. Well, no, she was pregnant, but
I just don't know the order at which and it's really, who cares what I think.
Right. But no, that plays a part in his whole persona and, you know, his past.
It's skewed a little bit for me. So he was interviewed this morning about
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him being an announcer for the Super Bowl and how he's been studying up like crazy. He goes,
I didn't just study up two weeks ago. This started, he said his start to study up for the Super
Bowl started in August. Well, he's nothing if not a student of what he needs to know and look what
he did with himself. He was an also ran, you know, when the fact that he even played in the NFL or
(23:12):
picked up was an amazing and look what he did. Exactly. So that is admirable. He's applying
perfectionism to his new position as a, as a sport reporter. Yeah. And he is working his tail
off. He goes, Oh my God, I've got, he's taken so many notes because he wants to make sure he's so
prepared. He goes, I'll probably be able to say five things from my two hours worth of notes.
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Yeah. But interestingly enough, Giselle had her baby yesterday. Oh, I did hear about that.
So I was like pulling it all together. Not with Tom. Not with Tom. With the new boyfriend.
With the new boyfriend, Joaquin Valenti. She's 44. I didn't know. I thought she was older than
that. I didn't know how old she was. I mean, she's gorgeous. So yeah. So we've got the Super Bowl,
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the baby was born Wednesday and Tom's going to be talking about, he's going to be announcing.
So I just thought that was a funny story where it kind of came full circle. Well,
it does, it does come full circle. There's another Super Bowl related story. It'll be interesting to
see how at ease or not he is in front of the camera and in discourse talking about, you know, the game.
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He certainly will be well armed with knowledge. I mean, I gotta admire his due diligence. Good for
him. So let's just see. He seems to me like Mr. Personality. No, you know, but he seems a little
stiff. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it's hard to, he's completely switching positions about what, when
he had to go in front of the camera as a player, as the quarterback. This is so different. I mean,
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so I, you know, I give him a little bit of slack for that, right? Yeah. Oh no, it's, he'll have a
little learning curve along the way. So two things. Who are you rooting for? I'm rooting for the Eagles.
I am too. Yeah. I would love to see them win. I would love to see them win. Yeah. It would be nice.
And then there's all this weird speculation that, okay, do you think Kelsey proposed to Taylor on
(25:19):
the field? Oh, I know. I mean, Travis. I mean, Travis, Kelsey. Right. Travis, Kelsey. No way.
No way. I mean, even if they win and somebody's like, oh, his brother might have the ring in his
pocket and come up to him. And I'm like, no, that doesn't seem like their MO. No stinking way.
They don't want to be public with something like that. No. That would be, that would take over
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all the media from the winner or loser of the game, the winner, to them. And would you imagine,
and I think she'd be pissed. Yeah. She'd be probably pissed and embarrassed and like, what?
And let's think of Travis Kelsey's ego. He, why would he want to distract from his moment of glory?
Right. Or if he loses, he's not gonna, yeah, he's, well, no, it's just a bad idea. Yeah. I'm,
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I think this is just public that's brought up these like funny little fantasy world things.
Yeah. There's a lot. My, my, my thumbs down on that ain't gonna happen. Yeah. Ain't gonna happen,
but I can't wait to see what she's wearing. Hmm. Okay. Well, she, she looks good. I loved what
she wore to the Grammys. I thought she looked darling. Oh, that red number. Yeah. With the little
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necklace kind of coming down her leg. I have never seen a thigh. What would be called the
thigh clasp? A thigh clasp. I can't, I don't know. I looked at that. I went, first I thought,
that's not a tattoo. She's a neck tattoo. Well, that's what I thought. And then I saw it and I
go, oh, it's a necklace. Really delicate and cool and understated. It was well done. Kind of sneaky
sexy. It was sneaky sexy. Yeah. Kind of peeking out from her leg. I liked that. Yeah. No, she,
(26:52):
she pulled it off well. Yeah. That was a great red. Oh, yeah. She loves red and the lipstick. Yeah.
Yeah. That's kind of her. She can, she's tall and she's fit and she can carry anything off. So
good for her. Okay. Well, hey, a lot to talk about today. Yeah. And I think it's time to wrap it up.
I'm done. Okay. All right. Let's wrap it up and let's just go eagles. Go eagles. Fly baby fly.
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