February 26, 2025 • 35 mins
Another day, another lawsuit amendment in the Lively vs. Baldoni lawsuit saga. The #ladieswhoquestion are already jacked for the movie ABOUT the lawsuit. C'mon, you KNOW that once the dust settles, that's next. Scamanda, the finale, ended up just about how we hoped it would. Lise and Holli break it down with glee. SNL50 was all love. It was star-studded, extremely fun, and a true joy to watch. Please hit follow, subscribe, or whatever you fancy but do it now, and thank you!
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Welcome to Ladies of Question and we've got a bunch of stuff, really a bounty of stories
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to talk about, all sort of celebrity and other that kind of thing.
So we're keeping it light this time because I think we need to.
Yes, I totally agree.
Okay.
First thing, first thing is, as you call it now, B&B, Blake versus Baldoni, Lively
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versus Baldoni.
My God, every day there's something, she's filing something new, there's some other
new wrinkle.
It's crazy.
We're recording this on Friday, the, what is it, 21st, right?
Yeah.
Okay, so and then I think yesterday there was a new amendment or something to the filing,
I don't, I can't even keep track of all the legalies.
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You've got the skinny on this, don't you?
Well, I think I do.
As the case escalates with new allegations about discomfort on the set.
Another amended complaint was filed in New York Tuesday by Blake claiming she isn't the
only woman who experienced discomfort on the set.
Oh, that's right.
Two other women.
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Yeah, so there's two other women unnamed.
Unnamed that will not come forward.
Well, it's not up to her to do the naming.
That's for sure.
Okay.
I mean, that's not her, that's not her position to name women if they do not want to yet be
named.
Okay.
I didn't know that.
Well, I mean, she, well, no, she can't just blur it out.
No, so, not without their permission and that's up to them.
Right.
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So, so Friedman, who is Baldoni's lawyer says, well, they're faceless, they're nameless
and they haven't come forward yet.
I was just listening to Billy Bush's podcast and he's, he was interviewing somebody on
there that's a TikToker that all she does is TikToks on the B versus B.
Oh, top sleuth.
Yes.
That was it.
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Top sleuth.
Yeah.
And she said, she must be following this just riveted.
Totally.
Did you, did you listen to it too?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Where she said, well, I think I knew who they are.
They were kind of a smaller role, smaller support roles in the movie actresses.
And there was a text that one of them sent to Baldoni after the film wrap that said,
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thank you so much for the opportunity.
I really enjoyed working with everybody.
It was just gushing about how she enjoyed her experiences with Baldoni.
And that was the one who played the younger Lily.
Yes.
That was what this top sleuth young lady who has the podcast was surmising.
Yeah.
I'll let, you know, not, I guess not really alleging, but surmising.
Yes.
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Yeah.
You're good with those legal terms.
And that's not really a legal term.
Okay.
So she's, I mean, she's alleging these are the people that Blake is referring to.
So she's trying to rope more people onto her side who will come forward.
Interestingly enough, they were interviewing the other support actor in there, the waiter
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that she fell in love with that she remember.
I say, I didn't, oh, you didn't watch it.
Okay, this guy was somebody that she fell in love with over during the movie that she
used to date years ago, and then they reconnected in a restaurant.
And he was being interviewed.
And he said, okay.
And of course, the first question is who's team are you on?
And he had nothing to do with it.
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He said, oh, someone came up to him and said, are you team Blake or team Justin?
Oh, and he, he was actually being interviewed on a major network.
And he said, no, I'm not involved.
No comment.
Absolutely.
Could you imagine?
Oh, who wants to get involved in that?
So Blake said these women have confided in her about their uncomfortableness during shooting
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the movie.
A new document contains previously undisclosed communications with Sony Pictures and Baldoni's
production company, Wayfair Studios and multiple other witnesses.
Notably, the new version adds a deformation claim against Baldoni.
So that's, that's kind of what Blake dropped in terms of her, her amended complaint.
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And it's all out there in public.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a judge that threatens to move up the court date if lawyers can't stop.
This is a quote.
If lawyers can't stop matter being litigated in the press.
I think that would be marvelous.
Yeah.
Just do it.
Just get it done.
Cause nobody wants to keep on hearing about this.
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I know we were talking about it.
I know, I know.
Do you know what I mean?
Like just, it's kind of to the point where they're disclosing so much.
I don't know who, who's right or who's wrong.
I have a certain feeling about it at this point, but get it over with, get it done.
Let's just move forward.
Yeah.
And, and, or shut up and keep it private.
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Plus, well, we'll talk about it later cause we're going to talk about some of our feelings
about the SNL 50.
Some highlights.
It was pretty fun.
She and Justin, excuse me.
She and Ryan, her husband, were there in the audience.
Should we just talk about that right now?
Yeah, let's just talk about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they, um, they were doing crowd, uh, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler were doing crowd work.
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And of course it was rehearsed ahead of time.
Everybody knew what they were going to, you know, blah, blah, blah.
But they say to Ryan, Hey Ryan, how are you doing?
Or how's it going?
And he goes, why would have you heard?
I mean, you know, but in a jocular kind of way.
And then of course she looks over all shocked like what?
I mean, it's all a setup.
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And then I heard that Wally, the card guy, you heard this too.
Yes.
Yeah.
He, would you want to say, I mean, well, that wasn't supposed to be said.
Well, he, Ryan had changed the line from what it was.
And Wally knew that, but Wally was being interviewed by some Australian TV station or radio station.
And the guy said, Oh, you know, what was the deal that he goes, Oh, well, actually that
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wasn't really the line that was initially planned.
Ryan asked to change it to that.
So that was Ryan asking to bring it up and make light of the situation.
Yeah.
Right.
And everybody's interpreting it that way.
Everybody I keep hearing, they're not saying that it was just fun.
They're like, he chose to make light of this serious situation.
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Yes.
Yeah.
And it seemed inappropriate, but we'll talk about it.
You know, while we're talking about the situation.
The situation.
So anyway, so where were we?
I'm sorry.
Oh, uh, the moving up the court date, right?
Which I think they should because everything's out in the open.
They say that this is going to be bigger than Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, which it definitely
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is.
Oh yeah.
I mean, there, there's was nothing like this.
No, because it just, it just wasn't, it was big because of the courtroom cameras.
Right.
And that's what made the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial a big deal because they were televised
it.
This is a big deal because neither one of them will shut up about, oh, here's this, here's
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that, here's this tit for tat, you know.
Exactly.
Oh, just go to court already or settle already.
Yeah.
Well, I wonder if they're going to allow cameras.
If it goes to court.
If it goes to court, which I don't know if people are kind of, who knows, public opinion
is tied.
Oh, is this?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
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I don't know.
Oh, that's okay.
But some podcasts, it doesn't, does it matter?
It doesn't matter.
And I was going to say one other thing.
I know what, who has the rights to the movies?
Well, who has the movie rights because he does.
No, that's, that's to their move.
This story.
Well, the woman, the author, who has the right to make a movie out of B versus B.
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I mean, I mean, some smart, somebody's out there going, oh, I'm going to make this a
movie.
Oh, because I want to see, I would like to see it play out.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Cause actually the rights for the, this one is kind of where this all, that's right.
We could talk about that too.
Yeah.
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The author of the book who sold this to Justin.
Yes.
Bell Doney.
Yes.
And he had it, but she wanted to wrestle the rights away.
And that's why she was strong-arming.
And that's a lot of the argument about how she turned the, everybody against him or she
was trying to turn people against him.
And apparently, you know, this is hearsay.
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Right.
Okay.
So we've heard, you know, it's being talked about that she did this also on Gossip Girl.
So I, yeah, turned against, I forgot which person.
Oh, um, that actor who kind of, see, I've never watched Gossip Girl, but I heard, is that
actor who, oh, he's, he sort of was like her boyfriend-ish.
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Ben Kingsley?
No, you probably know better than I do.
Anyway, he sort of played her boyfriend-ish, but he was from the other side of the tracks
or something.
Or his dad was, I forget.
Where was I going with this?
Well, were you talking about the interview?
There was an interview that they keep playing where she was quoted as saying something to
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the effect of-
So I like to go in as an actress and then I wrestle power away.
Right.
Basically, I want more control and I want to interject and I'd like to produce.
So it's kind of her M.O. when doing a film because she wants to have more control.
Yes.
And that, I mean, God, I hate to think of someone's words from that many years ago coming back
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to haunt them and they're just being candid about who they are and what they do.
But this is what she tried to do in this situation.
She did.
And she used the subject matter against him is using.
Right.
You know, of the film.
It's so very involved and it's so multi-layered.
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That's why it's been confusing, at least for me, to try to-
Oh.
Not that I need to pick a side, but you kind of end up doing that a little bit, right?
I know.
Yeah.
So I guess that's where we leave it, right?
Is that kind of all for now with them or?
I think so.
And I think that there should be a gag order.
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Oh, wouldn't that be great?
Why isn't there one?
I don't know.
I mean, there's just too much information out there that's confusing for both parties
and I wonder why they don't do that.
I mean, we don't know anything about the law.
Right.
So we don't understand maybe there's some sort of reason why they can't be restrained.
Either shut up or settle it or go to court.
I totally agree.
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So that's where we are.
The ladies who question, that's where we are.
Yeah.
Get on with it.
That's what we're questioning.
Why isn't it like over and done?
So we can move on and every time we turn the morning television on, that's the first story.
That's right.
Nice wrap up.
That's pretty scary.
And yet it doesn't stop us from talking about it.
I know.
But it is fodder.
So now we can move on.
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Yeah.
Okay, let's move on to something equally unappetizing.
All right.
We're talking about all the scandals.
Scamenda.
Scamenda.
So part four, the final part of the ABC mini series, whatever you want to call it, sort
of a mini doc really.
It was, wasn't it?
Right.
That's kind of how it's filmed.
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Yeah.
It's kind of like partially fabricated, but mostly it's the real people stating their
case.
Well, they had reenactments.
Reenactment.
That's what I was looking for.
And then they had the real people who were actually the donors and the church people and
all the other people.
Right.
Some directly involved like Alita.
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Right.
Being in Alita.
Oh, man.
That's what I'm leading with is Alita.
For Alita?
Great.
Let's jump into Scamenda.
So it got wrapped up last night.
And it kind of ended sort of how I wanted it to.
Anyway, let's do, you want to do it chronologically?
Yeah, let's break it down.
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So it's September 2016 is how it started.
Right.
Or is when it picked up.
Right.
Right.
So on last night's show, Alita, who is the ex-wife of Scamenda's husband, Corey, who,
Scamenda was the nanny, gets full custody.
Yeah.
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I was happy to see that.
I was like, hooray for that.
Now, I have a question.
She got full custody because there was something about bad behavior on a boat.
Alcohol involved and somebody was drunk.
Like it had nothing to do with the case or Scamenda scamming people.
No, it had to do with bad behavior on Scamenda, Amanda, whatever, and Corey and other people
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that were on a boat and the child was there.
Well, young lady, I mean, she's a teenager at that point, right?
Which one is Jessa?
Was it?
Yeah.
Was there and Jessa goes and makes this public or whatever, or tells her mother and her mother
goes to court and bam, gone.
So it must have been really bad behavior.
But there wasn't a further explanation about that for whatever reason, but it must have
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been pretty bad for her to rest custody away from them after all they put her through.
I know.
Yeah.
I mean, poor Alita.
They made her look terrible throughout the whole duration of this and now finally she
gets her child back.
So that was great.
They being Corey and Scamenda.
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Yeah, exactly.
So the house is raided.
They open with the house being raided, but she's not arrested.
She's not arrested.
And what I understood from the raid is it was tax evasion.
Well, yeah.
They grab all the paperwork, figure out where she was getting her money from, wire fraud,
tax evasion, and that's how they got her.
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Well, had nothing to do with like.
Isn't that interesting?
That's how they got Al Capone too.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, gosh.
I mean, that was.
Yeah, that's how they get mob people.
Yeah.
I find that fascinating, but at least they can get them on something.
I was so disgusted when they interviewed the police, the policemen who was involved, who
was doing investigating.
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And he said, you know, I figured she just can't be trusted.
She's going to keep doing this again.
And he said, and darn it, if as soon as they left the house, the police after the raid,
she was back on her blog.
That's right.
Um, the moment they left back on Facebook, back on her blog back, you know, oh, you know,
this is what's going on with me now.
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I'm still so sick.
Of course, she didn't say, oh, the police arrest, you know, raided my house.
But like, oh, no, we have to do this.
There was some sort of one of those pathetic lying pleas.
So yeah, she, she absolutely felt nothing and not intimidated by the police coming in
and raiding her house.
It was like, oh, I'm so sick and she's making up some more story to get more money.
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What a sociopath.
Oh, then the church cuts her off.
I was glad.
Yay.
Yeah.
Finally, they started figuring it out.
So what does she do?
She moves to Gilroy and she gets a job as a principal.
Where was the vetting?
Where was the back checking?
Well, they're Christian schools, so they're not run through a public school system.
They're private.
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So I guess they have standards that are different from hiring a sexual predator or whatever.
I mean, the background check, if it was only one or two towns over, I mean, they're 30
miles apart.
That's right.
If anybody doesn't know, Gilroy is, is about 30 miles south of San Jose.
And it's not like you can't get information or you don't hear.
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Just call the other school.
I mean, I don't get it.
And she's hired as a principal?
As a principal of an elementary, a Christian elementary school.
I was absolutely bamboozled.
I went, what?
In this day and age?
I couldn't believe it.
So she's hired on, well, the scam starts again at this new school.
Oh, now this was sickening.
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Yeah.
Absolutely sickening.
There's another teacher there who legitimately has cancer and is suffering.
And everybody in school really loves this woman and they support this woman.
And then they have a school fundraiser for the two, because by this time a man is like,
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oh, shit.
Well, I do too.
And I, you know, so of course school fundraiser for them and the funds got split down the
mess.
So within two or three months of her being hired, she starts her scam all over again.
The cancer, the money, the whole shebang.
Unfortunately, the other teacher passed away.
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And the other teacher passes away.
And after having to split the month.
That her family could have gotten.
Oh, I, that, I'm not sure if that made me the most angry and just nauseated out of this
whole scam thing because legitimately this woman who probably needed her family by needed
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the funds to pay off these bills for her own legitimate cancer hospital bills, et cetera.
And on another note, there was a student, a parent at that school whose son had a very
rare unusual disease.
Early Alzheimer's.
Yes.
And the kid was only about what, 10, 11, 12?
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Right.
Yeah.
And she was also doing fundraising or she was receiving donations, but she thought she
would, you know, join forces with Amanda's, Amanda.
There was something where she ended up finding out that the principal was a scam artist, but
right not right away.
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Remember?
The woman that has a son with Alzheimer's.
Oh, because she needed money too.
Because, well, his medical expenses were huge.
Yes.
And I didn't quite get the connection between all that.
I think she was pumping them for information about different things or that's kind of,
that was, what is that?
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Let me just look at the note that I had on that.
I put praying on the parents for information, but I didn't really know about what.
Some things were just talked about so quickly and I just didn't get it all and I was not
going to watch or record it and watch it back.
No, it didn't seem to be as central to the horror of this whole story at this school,
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unlike the woman, the other teacher who had cancer.
So I didn't really delve into it.
But she was just, she was doing something nefarious that had to do with this poor child who had
early onset Alzheimer's.
It was sickening.
It was sickening.
One more thing.
And then the reporter started doing some digging.
Remember how she was pretending that she wanted her child to go to school there so she was
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calling the school?
I loved that.
I did too.
And Amanda found out about her and she filed a restraining order against her.
Of course.
Oh my gosh.
And said a lot of really untrue malicious things in her because they were showing some
of the highlights of what she had put on the restraining order.
Oh, right.
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You know, and it was just kind of like what?
Speaking up all this stuff saying she was harassing her and using these, whatever, it
was all, well, just more spun lies, you know?
How this woman could keep going and going and going to the point that where she was
was blows me away from...
She just won town to the next, so close together.
So much energy expended.
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Being a horrible person.
And then we kind of go to the part where she is...
Well, July 2020.
Okay.
She's indicted.
Okay.
Of wire fraud and bankruptcy fraud.
That's too bad.
That's all she got indicted by.
I know.
You would think it would be more, but I guess that's how the law is on.
I know.
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I don't know how they would pursue something like people willingly donating.
That just comes under the ski or the headline of you shouldn't own better or buyer beware.
Right.
Yeah.
That's right.
Exactly.
And then I have a friend, Rebecca, she said she had donated anywhere from $20,000 to $30,000.
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I kind of gasped when she was being interviewed.
So she pleads guilty.
And she gets 60 months, which translates to five years.
And that is so much more than is necessarily recommended.
Right.
18 months was the recommended sentence.
And the judge is like, no, no.
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You're a really bad person.
And there was quite a few.
Oh, plus restitution.
Oh, yes.
Just to pay everybody back.
And there was quite a few people with impact statements.
The victim statements.
Oh, yeah.
Oh my God.
Those were heart wrenching.
Well, yeah.
How could you sit there and listen to your best friend, your stepdaughter who had cancer?
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It was just passionate pouring their hearts out about how their lives were so jolted
by her.
And angry.
And she just sat there and she just, you know, whatever, like, oh, well, I liked what, I
can't remember which woman.
She said, oh, yeah, when she gave her statement, Amanda, Amanda gave her statement, you know,
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I'm so sorry.
And, you know, yada, yada, yada, basically.
And the woman says, she's not sorry.
She's just sorry she was caught.
Perfectly said.
And really summed it the whole thing up.
It did.
Because she doesn't understand.
She's so detached from the reality of other people and other people's needs or that for
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her, I'm doing armchair psychology here, but for her, it just, it doesn't even resonate.
It just doesn't land.
No, you know, she's not living in the real world.
I think, well, also, apparently she's doing this.
She was doing the same thing in jail.
Remember?
They said that she was in jail and she was starting to talk about ailments that she had.
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Oh, I think she was trying to wiggle out of her sentence.
Well, I think that was to the podcaster.
Remember she, the pod, oh, that's right.
She handed her, I'm sorry, her card and then in July, or excuse me, and then in 2022, that
was when, let's see, if I forget, she contacted her.
She actually texted her.
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Yes.
Amanda texted the podcaster Charlie and they had all these conversations and from that
sprung the podcast of Scamanda, which is how I got introduced to it and listened to all
those.
That was in 2022.
Amanda contacts her and they start having these discussions.
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And then the podcast drops in 2023 and I didn't listen to it until December of 2024, but whenever
I, whenever, you know, I did, then everybody starts hearing all about it.
Then in June 2024, she finds out Charlie, they're getting divorced.
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I'm thinking to myself, really?
Now?
Now?
Like, what happened, Corey?
Does that get you out of her having to pay restitution?
That I'd love to know what finally...
Let's get an interview with Corey.
No, I'm surprised the press haven't.
Well, maybe he's...
He probably said, no, I am not interested.
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You know, I'm done with that or whatever.
He's found somebody else too, by the way.
Well, Oh has?
Oh, yes.
Oh, you have some more deep scoops there, because I don't think they said that on the
TV show.
I thought they did.
Oh, did they?
Yeah, I think he's found somebody else.
He's, uh-oh.
Yeah.
Well, good luck to him.
I mean, I wouldn't touch him with a ten for Paul.
Oh, God, he's an idiot.
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And he's the beyond marriage number three anyway.
Yeah, you know what I was stunned about?
It showed the restitution was 106,000.
I know.
And I thought, no, no, I would estimate it to be ten times that.
Right.
Because she did this for a long time.
Oh.
Maybe that's all they could trace.
But how could they lip?
Because they were basically living off of the donations.
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That's right.
Because they were in and out of jobs all the time.
And a very expensive area in California.
Like I don't...
At least they got her and good luck.
Yeah.
And the mom claims to know nothing.
She knows nothing.
So I guess I just, I guess I just, I went there with her treatments a few times.
I'm thinking a few times.
You're her mother.
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Right.
And you went a few times.
So much of this didn't add up.
No.
So much.
From almost the beginning.
Yeah.
So definitely buyer beware when you're making donations.
It's sad now because people that really have cancer need the help.
You don't want to be questioning them.
No.
But...
Yeah.
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It's kind of the old one bad apple spoils the whole bunch.
Exactly.
And you just put a little seal on this, a coda in December of 2024.
This little nut case was released from prison.
She was.
And she was in some Texas prison and she went to Southern California for some kind of like
a halfway house or I don't know, something like that.
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So that's, that's that.
I think she'll be back at it in some different type of scam.
Of course.
She just can't live a real life.
No.
She's not in reality.
She's so detached from...
Well, somebody did say to me, a friend or somebody I was talking to and they said, well, why
didn't she just go to psychiatric treatment?
I go, that would have been way too easy.
Put her in jail.
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She doesn't think anything's wrong.
No.
Oh, you mean from the judge?
Like why didn't the judge just put her in a mental institute?
I go, oh no.
That would have been too easy.
No, no, no.
Because she has one of those borderline personalities or something where there's nothing that can
touch this kind of person.
It's kind of like the definition of borderline.
It's almost like therapists go, I can't do a thing for them.
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This is the one that they least like to deal with because it's almost impossible to get
to them, to make a change, to affect a change.
They don't think they're doing anything wrong.
Yeah, because they don't.
And the therapist is like, I can't affect a change here because it's just a difficult
personality, difficult.
So we are going to say good night to Scamanda.
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Good night and goodbye.
Yes.
Adios.
Enjoy hell.
Right.
Let's go on to SNL, the 50.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I know by the time this air is it'll have been old news.
But it was fun.
It was long.
I watched the whole thing.
I mean, I stayed up late.
I did too.
I fell asleep a teeny bit.
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I missed maybe, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes.
I didn't write down any of my highlights so I'm going to rely on my failing memory.
But I did like the crowd thing that Amy and Tina did.
I did too.
I'm not going to say anything is my favorite because I'm not even sure what was my favorite.
I liked the John Mulaney Broadway thing when they were talking about New York City and
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they say, well, let's go back to 1975.
And so many different SNL players were involved in that.
It kind of went through stages of their lives.
Like how New York City was just a crap hole in 1975.
It was really a scary place.
Yes.
Yeah.
And how it changed over and all the different eras and all the things that are attached
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to the New York City lifestyle.
I thought they did such a good job with that.
Yeah.
And he's really bizarrely funny.
He's just very funny.
He is.
How about you?
Well, I try to collect my thoughts about another one.
Well, I just loved it when they kept showing the people in the audience because it was
everybody from Steven Spielberg to Cher, Kevin Costner.
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Of course, all the comedians over the years, but they kept showing Cher and Kevin Costner.
And then they were mentioning that there was a concert the night before at Madison Square
of Garden and Cher was one of the main, you know, it was like an SNL act, like acts that
it appeared on SNL was the concert.
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Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And then they're, they're saying, oh, you know, Kevin Costner just had so much fun watching
Cher last night.
And did you hear those undertones?
I did.
It was almost like they were linking them like, oh, they were almost linking them like, oh
my God.
Maybe they're just having fun.
But talk about every major, a lot of major, major Hollywood players, producers, directors,
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actors and comedians were all in one space.
I thought it was anybody who had ever hosted got an invitation for sure.
Right?
Yeah.
And then I don't think, did Steven Spielberg ever host?
No, but he's such a big player.
He got invited.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
And he, and I was like, yeah, it doesn't even seem like his gig, but right.
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He went, what did you think of the opening with Paul Simon?
And why is her name is Sabrina Carpenter?
Yeah.
Oh, it was, I thought it was so cool.
It was really lovely.
Wasn't it?
And so of course I had to Google Paul Simon.
He's 83.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Well, it was, it was so heartfelt hit that song he sang that I almost was crying.
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The duet between the two.
And I liked how it brought the two generations together.
Yes.
And beautifully performed.
It was really cool.
And honestly, for me, I have to say now that it's kind of coming back to me, maybe the
highlight was Paul McCartney at the very end.
We just gonna say that.
Oh, okay.
I mean, first of all, I love those, those songs on, on which album is that?
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Jeez.
I mean, Beatles album, but Golden Slumbers, the end and, I'll say, Golden Slumbers and
then, and in the end, but there was, there's a third one in there.
Well, anyway, the three, the triumvirate of songs that are in that on the album, he did
that and I didn't miss the other Beatles being on it.
I mean, granted, backup singers, right?
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You know, guys filling in the vocals.
Did that almost bring tears to your eyes?
Oh, me for sure.
I was like, I'm so glad I stayed awake for this.
It made me miss the Beatles so much in that era of sitting by and this is a boomer moment.
So if you're not a boomer, you can either tune this out or try to understand the moment
because it was a place in time where you had your album, the big old, you know, long play
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album 33 and a third and you opened it up or you looked on the back and you sat there
next to the speakers and you listen to it and you read the lyrics and you memorize
it.
I love that.
I know.
And that was the lyrics on the album.
You sat around with your friends.
Yeah.
Or you by yourself and it encapsulated a time and space in your youth, our youths, that
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can never be duplicated.
These generations coming up will never feel that.
No.
It's like humanity.
It's like bonding with your friends.
It's special moments without technology and just, I don't know.
Is it special because we think it's special because it's in our youth or is it really
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kind of special because it was more pure?
I like that.
I think it was more pure.
That's kind of...
There was no other interruptions or outside noise.
It was just hanging out, being real and enjoying it.
There weren't other distractions.
Right.
In the most part, sometimes you would just get that new album and you'd slam it onto
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the cereal.
And the best part was the words in the album because then you got to learn them.
I loved all the liner notes when they would give background and who produced it and who
was out.
It's just...
And of course the lyrics.
But I guess those were for me, the biggest highlights.
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It really completed the show with the Palma Cartoni.
Well, it did.
It just put this lovely book end to it.
You open with someone who was...
Well, Paul Simon.
Well, both of our baby boomer people.
Paul Simon and then Paul McCartney.
Yeah.
Paul and Paul.
Lauren is 80.
Lauren Michaels is 80.
So, you know, it's that general...
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I know Paul McCartney.
I think he's in his 80s too.
He is.
Isn't he?
Yeah.
Oh, he looked great.
Yeah.
That guy's been a vegan.
He works out.
I mean, they don't age.
Well...
Yeah, they do, but they're active and they're curious and they're still producing and they
still want to do things.
And I think that's the key to a lot of it is just being curious about your surroundings
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and about whatever is happening and rolling with the punches.
But what do I know?
I'm not a philosophy major.
That's I should have been.
Yeah.
What would have that gotten?
What job would they gotten me?
Nothing.
But anyway.
Yeah, we'd love to hear your thoughts about the SNL 50 because it was our age group.
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I mean, I'm just getting flashbacks of Chris Rock who's 60.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
He looks great.
You know about who looks great.
Yeah.
I was like, what?
He looks exactly the same.
Exactly.
I mean, he's so funny.
He's still skinny.
And Eddie Murphy was in the audience.
That was the other thing.
How funny was that when Eddie Murphy was doing lack jeopardy and playing and making fun...
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He was playing Tracy Morgan.
Oh, that's right.
And Tracy Morgan was next to him on Black Jeopardy.
But he was Eddie Murphy played, as far as I'm concerned, Tracy Morgan better than Tracy
Morgan.
Right.
Right.
He did.
Oh my God.
That was hysterically funny.
I remember him being on Saturday Night Live as a regular.
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That's how he got his start.
Yeah.
And he was a kid.
He was like a teenager, right?
Like 19.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's kind of our wrap up.
All the fun stuff from this week.
Yeah.
At least the ones that we could just summon up right now.
Right.
Right.
I should have taken notes, but I can't take notes on everything.
I just want to experience it.
Right.
You know?
Just feel it wash over.
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That was a happy, happy show.
So we end on a happy note.
Very happy show.
Okay.
We'll check in with you next week and have all the haps or at least the ones that we
choose to talk about.
Okay.
And if you want to hear anything special, let us know.
Our show.
That's right.
Okay.
Our show.
Yeah.
We'll put you better because we are the ladies who question we are.
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Welcome to Ladies of Question and we've got a bunch of stuff, really a bounty of stories
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to talk about, all sort of celebrity and other that kind of thing.
So we're keeping it light this time because I think we need to.
Yes, I totally agree.
Okay.
First thing, first thing is, as you call it now, B&B, Blake versus Baldoni, Lively
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versus Baldoni.
My God, every day there's something, she's filing something new, there's some other
new wrinkle.
It's crazy.
We're recording this on Friday, the, what is it, 21st, right?
Yeah.
Okay, so and then I think yesterday there was a new amendment or something to the filing,
I don't, I can't even keep track of all the legalies.
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You've got the skinny on this, don't you?
Well, I think I do.
As the case escalates with new allegations about discomfort on the set.
Another amended complaint was filed in New York Tuesday by Blake claiming she isn't the
only woman who experienced discomfort on the set.
Oh, that's right.
Two other women.
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Yeah, so there's two other women unnamed.
Unnamed that will not come forward.
Well, it's not up to her to do the naming.
That's for sure.
Okay.
I mean, that's not her, that's not her position to name women if they do not want to yet be
named.
Okay.
I didn't know that.
Well, I mean, she, well, no, she can't just blur it out.
No, so, not without their permission and that's up to them.
Right.
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So, so Friedman, who is Baldoni's lawyer says, well, they're faceless, they're nameless
and they haven't come forward yet.
I was just listening to Billy Bush's podcast and he's, he was interviewing somebody on
there that's a TikToker that all she does is TikToks on the B versus B.
Oh, top sleuth.
Yes.
That was it.
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Top sleuth.
Yeah.
And she said, she must be following this just riveted.
Totally.
Did you, did you listen to it too?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Where she said, well, I think I knew who they are.
They were kind of a smaller role, smaller support roles in the movie actresses.
And there was a text that one of them sent to Baldoni after the film wrap that said,
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thank you so much for the opportunity.
I really enjoyed working with everybody.
It was just gushing about how she enjoyed her experiences with Baldoni.
And that was the one who played the younger Lily.
Yes.
That was what this top sleuth young lady who has the podcast was surmising.
Yeah.
I'll let, you know, not, I guess not really alleging, but surmising.
Yes.
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Yeah.
You're good with those legal terms.
And that's not really a legal term.
Okay.
So she's, I mean, she's alleging these are the people that Blake is referring to.
So she's trying to rope more people onto her side who will come forward.
Interestingly enough, they were interviewing the other support actor in there, the waiter
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that she fell in love with that she remember.
I say, I didn't, oh, you didn't watch it.
Okay, this guy was somebody that she fell in love with over during the movie that she
used to date years ago, and then they reconnected in a restaurant.
And he was being interviewed.
And he said, okay.
And of course, the first question is who's team are you on?
And he had nothing to do with it.
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He said, oh, someone came up to him and said, are you team Blake or team Justin?
Oh, and he, he was actually being interviewed on a major network.
And he said, no, I'm not involved.
No comment.
Absolutely.
Could you imagine?
Oh, who wants to get involved in that?
So Blake said these women have confided in her about their uncomfortableness during shooting
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the movie.
A new document contains previously undisclosed communications with Sony Pictures and Baldoni's
production company, Wayfair Studios and multiple other witnesses.
Notably, the new version adds a deformation claim against Baldoni.
So that's, that's kind of what Blake dropped in terms of her, her amended complaint.
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And it's all out there in public.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a judge that threatens to move up the court date if lawyers can't stop.
This is a quote.
If lawyers can't stop matter being litigated in the press.
I think that would be marvelous.
Yeah.
Just do it.
Just get it done.
Cause nobody wants to keep on hearing about this.
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I know we were talking about it.
I know, I know.
Do you know what I mean?
Like just, it's kind of to the point where they're disclosing so much.
I don't know who, who's right or who's wrong.
I have a certain feeling about it at this point, but get it over with, get it done.
Let's just move forward.
Yeah.
And, and, or shut up and keep it private.
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Plus, well, we'll talk about it later cause we're going to talk about some of our feelings
about the SNL 50.
Some highlights.
It was pretty fun.
She and Justin, excuse me.
She and Ryan, her husband, were there in the audience.
Should we just talk about that right now?
Yeah, let's just talk about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they, um, they were doing crowd, uh, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler were doing crowd work.
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And of course it was rehearsed ahead of time.
Everybody knew what they were going to, you know, blah, blah, blah.
But they say to Ryan, Hey Ryan, how are you doing?
Or how's it going?
And he goes, why would have you heard?
I mean, you know, but in a jocular kind of way.
And then of course she looks over all shocked like what?
I mean, it's all a setup.
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And then I heard that Wally, the card guy, you heard this too.
Yes.
Yeah.
He, would you want to say, I mean, well, that wasn't supposed to be said.
Well, he, Ryan had changed the line from what it was.
And Wally knew that, but Wally was being interviewed by some Australian TV station or radio station.
And the guy said, Oh, you know, what was the deal that he goes, Oh, well, actually that
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wasn't really the line that was initially planned.
Ryan asked to change it to that.
So that was Ryan asking to bring it up and make light of the situation.
Yeah.
Right.
And everybody's interpreting it that way.
Everybody I keep hearing, they're not saying that it was just fun.
They're like, he chose to make light of this serious situation.
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Yes.
Yeah.
And it seemed inappropriate, but we'll talk about it.
You know, while we're talking about the situation.
The situation.
So anyway, so where were we?
I'm sorry.
Oh, uh, the moving up the court date, right?
Which I think they should because everything's out in the open.
They say that this is going to be bigger than Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, which it definitely
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is.
Oh yeah.
I mean, there, there's was nothing like this.
No, because it just, it just wasn't, it was big because of the courtroom cameras.
Right.
And that's what made the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial a big deal because they were televised
it.
This is a big deal because neither one of them will shut up about, oh, here's this, here's
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that, here's this tit for tat, you know.
Exactly.
Oh, just go to court already or settle already.
Yeah.
Well, I wonder if they're going to allow cameras.
If it goes to court.
If it goes to court, which I don't know if people are kind of, who knows, public opinion
is tied.
Oh, is this?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
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I don't know.
Oh, that's okay.
But some podcasts, it doesn't, does it matter?
It doesn't matter.
And I was going to say one other thing.
I know what, who has the rights to the movies?
Well, who has the movie rights because he does.
No, that's, that's to their move.
This story.
Well, the woman, the author, who has the right to make a movie out of B versus B.
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I mean, I mean, some smart, somebody's out there going, oh, I'm going to make this a
movie.
Oh, because I want to see, I would like to see it play out.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Cause actually the rights for the, this one is kind of where this all, that's right.
We could talk about that too.
Yeah.
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The author of the book who sold this to Justin.
Yes.
Bell Doney.
Yes.
And he had it, but she wanted to wrestle the rights away.
And that's why she was strong-arming.
And that's a lot of the argument about how she turned the, everybody against him or she
was trying to turn people against him.
And apparently, you know, this is hearsay.
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Right.
Okay.
So we've heard, you know, it's being talked about that she did this also on Gossip Girl.
So I, yeah, turned against, I forgot which person.
Oh, um, that actor who kind of, see, I've never watched Gossip Girl, but I heard, is that
actor who, oh, he's, he sort of was like her boyfriend-ish.
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Ben Kingsley?
No, you probably know better than I do.
Anyway, he sort of played her boyfriend-ish, but he was from the other side of the tracks
or something.
Or his dad was, I forget.
Where was I going with this?
Well, were you talking about the interview?
There was an interview that they keep playing where she was quoted as saying something to
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the effect of-
So I like to go in as an actress and then I wrestle power away.
Right.
Basically, I want more control and I want to interject and I'd like to produce.
So it's kind of her M.O. when doing a film because she wants to have more control.
Yes.
And that, I mean, God, I hate to think of someone's words from that many years ago coming back
(09:46):
to haunt them and they're just being candid about who they are and what they do.
But this is what she tried to do in this situation.
She did.
And she used the subject matter against him is using.
Right.
You know, of the film.
It's so very involved and it's so multi-layered.
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That's why it's been confusing, at least for me, to try to-
Oh.
Not that I need to pick a side, but you kind of end up doing that a little bit, right?
I know.
Yeah.
So I guess that's where we leave it, right?
Is that kind of all for now with them or?
I think so.
And I think that there should be a gag order.
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Oh, wouldn't that be great?
Why isn't there one?
I don't know.
I mean, there's just too much information out there that's confusing for both parties
and I wonder why they don't do that.
I mean, we don't know anything about the law.
Right.
So we don't understand maybe there's some sort of reason why they can't be restrained.
Either shut up or settle it or go to court.
I totally agree.
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So that's where we are.
The ladies who question, that's where we are.
Yeah.
Get on with it.
That's what we're questioning.
Why isn't it like over and done?
So we can move on and every time we turn the morning television on, that's the first story.
That's right.
Nice wrap up.
That's pretty scary.
And yet it doesn't stop us from talking about it.
I know.
But it is fodder.
So now we can move on.
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Yeah.
Okay, let's move on to something equally unappetizing.
All right.
We're talking about all the scandals.
Scamenda.
Scamenda.
So part four, the final part of the ABC mini series, whatever you want to call it, sort
of a mini doc really.
It was, wasn't it?
Right.
That's kind of how it's filmed.
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Yeah.
It's kind of like partially fabricated, but mostly it's the real people stating their
case.
Well, they had reenactments.
Reenactment.
That's what I was looking for.
And then they had the real people who were actually the donors and the church people and
all the other people.
Right.
Some directly involved like Alita.
(11:52):
Right.
Being in Alita.
Oh, man.
That's what I'm leading with is Alita.
For Alita?
Great.
Let's jump into Scamenda.
So it got wrapped up last night.
And it kind of ended sort of how I wanted it to.
Anyway, let's do, you want to do it chronologically?
Yeah, let's break it down.
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So it's September 2016 is how it started.
Right.
Or is when it picked up.
Right.
Right.
So on last night's show, Alita, who is the ex-wife of Scamenda's husband, Corey, who,
Scamenda was the nanny, gets full custody.
Yeah.
(12:34):
I was happy to see that.
I was like, hooray for that.
Now, I have a question.
She got full custody because there was something about bad behavior on a boat.
Alcohol involved and somebody was drunk.
Like it had nothing to do with the case or Scamenda scamming people.
No, it had to do with bad behavior on Scamenda, Amanda, whatever, and Corey and other people
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that were on a boat and the child was there.
Well, young lady, I mean, she's a teenager at that point, right?
Which one is Jessa?
Was it?
Yeah.
Was there and Jessa goes and makes this public or whatever, or tells her mother and her mother
goes to court and bam, gone.
So it must have been really bad behavior.
But there wasn't a further explanation about that for whatever reason, but it must have
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been pretty bad for her to rest custody away from them after all they put her through.
I know.
Yeah.
I mean, poor Alita.
They made her look terrible throughout the whole duration of this and now finally she
gets her child back.
So that was great.
They being Corey and Scamenda.
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Yeah, exactly.
So the house is raided.
They open with the house being raided, but she's not arrested.
She's not arrested.
And what I understood from the raid is it was tax evasion.
Well, yeah.
They grab all the paperwork, figure out where she was getting her money from, wire fraud,
tax evasion, and that's how they got her.
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Well, had nothing to do with like.
Isn't that interesting?
That's how they got Al Capone too.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, gosh.
I mean, that was.
Yeah, that's how they get mob people.
Yeah.
I find that fascinating, but at least they can get them on something.
I was so disgusted when they interviewed the police, the policemen who was involved, who
was doing investigating.
(14:29):
And he said, you know, I figured she just can't be trusted.
She's going to keep doing this again.
And he said, and darn it, if as soon as they left the house, the police after the raid,
she was back on her blog.
That's right.
Um, the moment they left back on Facebook, back on her blog back, you know, oh, you know,
this is what's going on with me now.
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I'm still so sick.
Of course, she didn't say, oh, the police arrest, you know, raided my house.
But like, oh, no, we have to do this.
There was some sort of one of those pathetic lying pleas.
So yeah, she, she absolutely felt nothing and not intimidated by the police coming in
and raiding her house.
It was like, oh, I'm so sick and she's making up some more story to get more money.
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What a sociopath.
Oh, then the church cuts her off.
I was glad.
Yay.
Yeah.
Finally, they started figuring it out.
So what does she do?
She moves to Gilroy and she gets a job as a principal.
Where was the vetting?
Where was the back checking?
Well, they're Christian schools, so they're not run through a public school system.
They're private.
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So I guess they have standards that are different from hiring a sexual predator or whatever.
I mean, the background check, if it was only one or two towns over, I mean, they're 30
miles apart.
That's right.
If anybody doesn't know, Gilroy is, is about 30 miles south of San Jose.
And it's not like you can't get information or you don't hear.
(15:55):
Just call the other school.
I mean, I don't get it.
And she's hired as a principal?
As a principal of an elementary, a Christian elementary school.
I was absolutely bamboozled.
I went, what?
In this day and age?
I couldn't believe it.
So she's hired on, well, the scam starts again at this new school.
Oh, now this was sickening.
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Yeah.
Absolutely sickening.
There's another teacher there who legitimately has cancer and is suffering.
And everybody in school really loves this woman and they support this woman.
And then they have a school fundraiser for the two, because by this time a man is like,
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oh, shit.
Well, I do too.
And I, you know, so of course school fundraiser for them and the funds got split down the
mess.
So within two or three months of her being hired, she starts her scam all over again.
The cancer, the money, the whole shebang.
Unfortunately, the other teacher passed away.
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And the other teacher passes away.
And after having to split the month.
That her family could have gotten.
Oh, I, that, I'm not sure if that made me the most angry and just nauseated out of this
whole scam thing because legitimately this woman who probably needed her family by needed
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the funds to pay off these bills for her own legitimate cancer hospital bills, et cetera.
And on another note, there was a student, a parent at that school whose son had a very
rare unusual disease.
Early Alzheimer's.
Yes.
And the kid was only about what, 10, 11, 12?
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Right.
Yeah.
And she was also doing fundraising or she was receiving donations, but she thought she
would, you know, join forces with Amanda's, Amanda.
There was something where she ended up finding out that the principal was a scam artist, but
right not right away.
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Remember?
The woman that has a son with Alzheimer's.
Oh, because she needed money too.
Because, well, his medical expenses were huge.
Yes.
And I didn't quite get the connection between all that.
I think she was pumping them for information about different things or that's kind of,
that was, what is that?
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Let me just look at the note that I had on that.
I put praying on the parents for information, but I didn't really know about what.
Some things were just talked about so quickly and I just didn't get it all and I was not
going to watch or record it and watch it back.
No, it didn't seem to be as central to the horror of this whole story at this school,
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unlike the woman, the other teacher who had cancer.
So I didn't really delve into it.
But she was just, she was doing something nefarious that had to do with this poor child who had
early onset Alzheimer's.
It was sickening.
It was sickening.
One more thing.
And then the reporter started doing some digging.
Remember how she was pretending that she wanted her child to go to school there so she was
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calling the school?
I loved that.
I did too.
And Amanda found out about her and she filed a restraining order against her.
Of course.
Oh my gosh.
And said a lot of really untrue malicious things in her because they were showing some
of the highlights of what she had put on the restraining order.
Oh, right.
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You know, and it was just kind of like what?
Speaking up all this stuff saying she was harassing her and using these, whatever, it
was all, well, just more spun lies, you know?
How this woman could keep going and going and going to the point that where she was
was blows me away from...
She just won town to the next, so close together.
So much energy expended.
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Being a horrible person.
And then we kind of go to the part where she is...
Well, July 2020.
Okay.
She's indicted.
Okay.
Of wire fraud and bankruptcy fraud.
That's too bad.
That's all she got indicted by.
I know.
You would think it would be more, but I guess that's how the law is on.
I know.
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I don't know how they would pursue something like people willingly donating.
That just comes under the ski or the headline of you shouldn't own better or buyer beware.
Right.
Yeah.
That's right.
Exactly.
And then I have a friend, Rebecca, she said she had donated anywhere from $20,000 to $30,000.
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I kind of gasped when she was being interviewed.
So she pleads guilty.
And she gets 60 months, which translates to five years.
And that is so much more than is necessarily recommended.
Right.
18 months was the recommended sentence.
And the judge is like, no, no.
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You're a really bad person.
And there was quite a few.
Oh, plus restitution.
Oh, yes.
Just to pay everybody back.
And there was quite a few people with impact statements.
The victim statements.
Oh, yeah.
Oh my God.
Those were heart wrenching.
Well, yeah.
How could you sit there and listen to your best friend, your stepdaughter who had cancer?
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It was just passionate pouring their hearts out about how their lives were so jolted
by her.
And angry.
And she just sat there and she just, you know, whatever, like, oh, well, I liked what, I
can't remember which woman.
She said, oh, yeah, when she gave her statement, Amanda, Amanda gave her statement, you know,
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I'm so sorry.
And, you know, yada, yada, yada, basically.
And the woman says, she's not sorry.
She's just sorry she was caught.
Perfectly said.
And really summed it the whole thing up.
It did.
Because she doesn't understand.
She's so detached from the reality of other people and other people's needs or that for
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her, I'm doing armchair psychology here, but for her, it just, it doesn't even resonate.
It just doesn't land.
No, you know, she's not living in the real world.
I think, well, also, apparently she's doing this.
She was doing the same thing in jail.
Remember?
They said that she was in jail and she was starting to talk about ailments that she had.
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Oh, I think she was trying to wiggle out of her sentence.
Well, I think that was to the podcaster.
Remember she, the pod, oh, that's right.
She handed her, I'm sorry, her card and then in July, or excuse me, and then in 2022, that
was when, let's see, if I forget, she contacted her.
She actually texted her.
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Yes.
Amanda texted the podcaster Charlie and they had all these conversations and from that
sprung the podcast of Scamanda, which is how I got introduced to it and listened to all
those.
That was in 2022.
Amanda contacts her and they start having these discussions.
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And then the podcast drops in 2023 and I didn't listen to it until December of 2024, but whenever
I, whenever, you know, I did, then everybody starts hearing all about it.
Then in June 2024, she finds out Charlie, they're getting divorced.
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I'm thinking to myself, really?
Now?
Now?
Like, what happened, Corey?
Does that get you out of her having to pay restitution?
That I'd love to know what finally...
Let's get an interview with Corey.
No, I'm surprised the press haven't.
Well, maybe he's...
He probably said, no, I am not interested.
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You know, I'm done with that or whatever.
He's found somebody else too, by the way.
Well, Oh has?
Oh, yes.
Oh, you have some more deep scoops there, because I don't think they said that on the
TV show.
I thought they did.
Oh, did they?
Yeah, I think he's found somebody else.
He's, uh-oh.
Yeah.
Well, good luck to him.
I mean, I wouldn't touch him with a ten for Paul.
Oh, God, he's an idiot.
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And he's the beyond marriage number three anyway.
Yeah, you know what I was stunned about?
It showed the restitution was 106,000.
I know.
And I thought, no, no, I would estimate it to be ten times that.
Right.
Because she did this for a long time.
Oh.
Maybe that's all they could trace.
But how could they lip?
Because they were basically living off of the donations.
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That's right.
Because they were in and out of jobs all the time.
And a very expensive area in California.
Like I don't...
At least they got her and good luck.
Yeah.
And the mom claims to know nothing.
She knows nothing.
So I guess I just, I guess I just, I went there with her treatments a few times.
I'm thinking a few times.
You're her mother.
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Right.
And you went a few times.
So much of this didn't add up.
No.
So much.
From almost the beginning.
Yeah.
So definitely buyer beware when you're making donations.
It's sad now because people that really have cancer need the help.
You don't want to be questioning them.
No.
But...
Yeah.
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It's kind of the old one bad apple spoils the whole bunch.
Exactly.
And you just put a little seal on this, a coda in December of 2024.
This little nut case was released from prison.
She was.
And she was in some Texas prison and she went to Southern California for some kind of like
a halfway house or I don't know, something like that.
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So that's, that's that.
I think she'll be back at it in some different type of scam.
Of course.
She just can't live a real life.
No.
She's not in reality.
She's so detached from...
Well, somebody did say to me, a friend or somebody I was talking to and they said, well, why
didn't she just go to psychiatric treatment?
I go, that would have been way too easy.
Put her in jail.
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She doesn't think anything's wrong.
No.
Oh, you mean from the judge?
Like why didn't the judge just put her in a mental institute?
I go, oh no.
That would have been too easy.
No, no, no.
Because she has one of those borderline personalities or something where there's nothing that can
touch this kind of person.
It's kind of like the definition of borderline.
It's almost like therapists go, I can't do a thing for them.
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This is the one that they least like to deal with because it's almost impossible to get
to them, to make a change, to affect a change.
They don't think they're doing anything wrong.
Yeah, because they don't.
And the therapist is like, I can't affect a change here because it's just a difficult
personality, difficult.
So we are going to say good night to Scamanda.
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Good night and goodbye.
Yes.
Adios.
Enjoy hell.
Right.
Let's go on to SNL, the 50.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I know by the time this air is it'll have been old news.
But it was fun.
It was long.
I watched the whole thing.
I mean, I stayed up late.
I did too.
I fell asleep a teeny bit.
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I missed maybe, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes.
I didn't write down any of my highlights so I'm going to rely on my failing memory.
But I did like the crowd thing that Amy and Tina did.
I did too.
I'm not going to say anything is my favorite because I'm not even sure what was my favorite.
I liked the John Mulaney Broadway thing when they were talking about New York City and
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they say, well, let's go back to 1975.
And so many different SNL players were involved in that.
It kind of went through stages of their lives.
Like how New York City was just a crap hole in 1975.
It was really a scary place.
Yes.
Yeah.
And how it changed over and all the different eras and all the things that are attached
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to the New York City lifestyle.
I thought they did such a good job with that.
Yeah.
And he's really bizarrely funny.
He's just very funny.
He is.
How about you?
Well, I try to collect my thoughts about another one.
Well, I just loved it when they kept showing the people in the audience because it was
everybody from Steven Spielberg to Cher, Kevin Costner.
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Of course, all the comedians over the years, but they kept showing Cher and Kevin Costner.
And then they were mentioning that there was a concert the night before at Madison Square
of Garden and Cher was one of the main, you know, it was like an SNL act, like acts that
it appeared on SNL was the concert.
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Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And then they're, they're saying, oh, you know, Kevin Costner just had so much fun watching
Cher last night.
And did you hear those undertones?
I did.
It was almost like they were linking them like, oh, they were almost linking them like, oh
my God.
Maybe they're just having fun.
But talk about every major, a lot of major, major Hollywood players, producers, directors,
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actors and comedians were all in one space.
I thought it was anybody who had ever hosted got an invitation for sure.
Right?
Yeah.
And then I don't think, did Steven Spielberg ever host?
No, but he's such a big player.
He got invited.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
And he, and I was like, yeah, it doesn't even seem like his gig, but right.
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He went, what did you think of the opening with Paul Simon?
And why is her name is Sabrina Carpenter?
Yeah.
Oh, it was, I thought it was so cool.
It was really lovely.
Wasn't it?
And so of course I had to Google Paul Simon.
He's 83.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Well, it was, it was so heartfelt hit that song he sang that I almost was crying.
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The duet between the two.
And I liked how it brought the two generations together.
Yes.
And beautifully performed.
It was really cool.
And honestly, for me, I have to say now that it's kind of coming back to me, maybe the
highlight was Paul McCartney at the very end.
We just gonna say that.
Oh, okay.
I mean, first of all, I love those, those songs on, on which album is that?
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Jeez.
I mean, Beatles album, but Golden Slumbers, the end and, I'll say, Golden Slumbers and
then, and in the end, but there was, there's a third one in there.
Well, anyway, the three, the triumvirate of songs that are in that on the album, he did
that and I didn't miss the other Beatles being on it.
I mean, granted, backup singers, right?
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You know, guys filling in the vocals.
Did that almost bring tears to your eyes?
Oh, me for sure.
I was like, I'm so glad I stayed awake for this.
It made me miss the Beatles so much in that era of sitting by and this is a boomer moment.
So if you're not a boomer, you can either tune this out or try to understand the moment
because it was a place in time where you had your album, the big old, you know, long play
(30:52):
album 33 and a third and you opened it up or you looked on the back and you sat there
next to the speakers and you listen to it and you read the lyrics and you memorize
it.
I love that.
I know.
And that was the lyrics on the album.
You sat around with your friends.
Yeah.
Or you by yourself and it encapsulated a time and space in your youth, our youths, that
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can never be duplicated.
These generations coming up will never feel that.
No.
It's like humanity.
It's like bonding with your friends.
It's special moments without technology and just, I don't know.
Is it special because we think it's special because it's in our youth or is it really
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kind of special because it was more pure?
I like that.
I think it was more pure.
That's kind of...
There was no other interruptions or outside noise.
It was just hanging out, being real and enjoying it.
There weren't other distractions.
Right.
In the most part, sometimes you would just get that new album and you'd slam it onto
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the cereal.
And the best part was the words in the album because then you got to learn them.
I loved all the liner notes when they would give background and who produced it and who
was out.
It's just...
And of course the lyrics.
But I guess those were for me, the biggest highlights.
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It really completed the show with the Palma Cartoni.
Well, it did.
It just put this lovely book end to it.
You open with someone who was...
Well, Paul Simon.
Well, both of our baby boomer people.
Paul Simon and then Paul McCartney.
Yeah.
Paul and Paul.
Lauren is 80.
Lauren Michaels is 80.
So, you know, it's that general...
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I know Paul McCartney.
I think he's in his 80s too.
He is.
Isn't he?
Yeah.
Oh, he looked great.
Yeah.
That guy's been a vegan.
He works out.
I mean, they don't age.
Well...
Yeah, they do, but they're active and they're curious and they're still producing and they
still want to do things.
And I think that's the key to a lot of it is just being curious about your surroundings
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and about whatever is happening and rolling with the punches.
But what do I know?
I'm not a philosophy major.
That's I should have been.
Yeah.
What would have that gotten?
What job would they gotten me?
Nothing.
But anyway.
Yeah, we'd love to hear your thoughts about the SNL 50 because it was our age group.
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I mean, I'm just getting flashbacks of Chris Rock who's 60.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
He looks great.
You know about who looks great.
Yeah.
I was like, what?
He looks exactly the same.
Exactly.
I mean, he's so funny.
He's still skinny.
And Eddie Murphy was in the audience.
That was the other thing.
How funny was that when Eddie Murphy was doing lack jeopardy and playing and making fun...
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He was playing Tracy Morgan.
Oh, that's right.
And Tracy Morgan was next to him on Black Jeopardy.
But he was Eddie Murphy played, as far as I'm concerned, Tracy Morgan better than Tracy
Morgan.
Right.
Right.
He did.
Oh my God.
That was hysterically funny.
I remember him being on Saturday Night Live as a regular.
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That's how he got his start.
Yeah.
And he was a kid.
He was like a teenager, right?
Like 19.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's kind of our wrap up.
All the fun stuff from this week.
Yeah.
At least the ones that we could just summon up right now.
Right.
Right.
I should have taken notes, but I can't take notes on everything.
I just want to experience it.
Right.
You know?
Just feel it wash over.
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That was a happy, happy show.
So we end on a happy note.
Very happy show.
Okay.
We'll check in with you next week and have all the haps or at least the ones that we
choose to talk about.
Okay.
And if you want to hear anything special, let us know.
Our show.
That's right.
Okay.
Our show.
Yeah.
We'll put you better because we are the ladies who question we are.
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Okay.
Bye.
Bye.
Thanks, Harvey.
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