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Laker Jim (James Kanowitz (00:43):
Thank you, sammy, and welcome
everybody back to FletchCast.
I'm your host, Laker Jim,Joining me, as always, two men
who get high onc and NoDozs,Jake and Big Bob.
Boys! Welcome back.
We had a little hiatus.
What did you guys do on yourFletch break?

Jake (Jake Parrish) (01:00):
Bob, why don't you start?
Your life is way moreinteresting than mine is.

Big Bob (Bob West) (01:05):
You guys know I don't like talking about
my personal life, but it wasValentine's Day and, as, of
course, I spent Valentine's Dayearly bird dinner with Joan and
Margaret.
That's a great romantic date,we had the steak and potato and
it was all $ 5.99 at 4 pm.

And that early bird, you can't beat it.
have to be ben i bed veryearly anyway.
So what about your Valentine'sDay?
Did Do you guys do anythingspecial?
You guys are both in committedrelationships relationship.

Laker Jim (James Kanowit (01:39):
That's true, I am in a committed
relationship, but on this breakshe had to share me with Fletch.

What a guy.

Laker Jim (James Kanowitz) (01:45):
I dedicated my time off to reading
slash listening to theremaining eight Fletch novels
that had not gone through.

Wow, Not to interrupt you, but just to be
clear.
You said listening to, so we'retalking books on tape.

Yeah , I mean, listen, it really
opened up a whole new world forme.
Really like, though, me and DanJohn Miller, we hunkered down,
we committed, we did one on topof the other, wow, and I powered
through the eight books.
So I'm coming out of this breakfresh, knowledgeable, feeling
rejuvenated with the word ofGregor McDonald.

I'm very proud of him.

Thank you.
My eight were including the twoson of Fletch books.

Very proud.

A lot of fans have written to us
and they want more book content.
So that's part of the reason Iwent down the journey of reading
the books and, honestly, it wasfull surprises, because the
ones I thought I'd really enjoysome of them I was like eh and
the ones I really had lowexpectations for I did really
enjoy.
Like Fletch too, I reallyenjoyed it.

(02:51):
Now, why did you have lowexpectations on it?

I don't know why I think a lot of it is
overshadowed by the fact thatFletch one was right before it
and there's been a lot of hypeabout that.
I think Fletch two kind of getslost in that and you would
probably agree with me also, lj,that it's not a traditional
kind of Fletch book, it's.
It's different.
Oh yeah, definitely different,but not to take anything away

(03:15):
from it, I still think it isvery enjoyable and I think we
really learn a lot about thecharacter.
Would you agree with that?

I think ultimately I judged each
book by the way, by the way theending unfolds, and some endings
are strong and some endings area little weak.
But I think by about book six Iwas thinking to myself how does
Fletch encounter a murdereverywhere?

he turns.
I mean who?
Who does that "Murder, Shewrote, angela Lanzibar, you know
.

That's true .
It's our whole life.
It's very true, right?

So it's more common than you think.
And her last name is Fletcher,and you are Well.

My name is Jessica Fletcher.

I'm very anxious Jessica Fletcher.
The author.
Jessica Fletcher.

Well, yes, this M M i MFletcher.
This is a delightful andunexpected pleasure.
I've read most all your books.

Thank you.

Maybe there's a bond, maybe there's
something going on there.
Maybe, if you're connected tothat name, murder follows you.

You know, you know this is a discussion.
This is a totally differenttangent.
But I mean, like, maybe thatwas Fletcher's mom.
Remember, Fletcher's mom wrotebooks.
That's true Mysteries, you know.
I'm tempted to take the fifthamendment and refuse to answer.

I tell you, of all the books that
I did and I did Fortune, moxie,man who, karaoka Fletch, Fletch
Reflected, Son of Fletch, butthe one I liked the most I think
was Fletch and the WidowBradley.
And the reason I think I likedit the most is because it's the
most like the first book and themovie when Fletcher's working

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for the paper, sort ofFletcher's second is still an
investigative journalist for thepaper and for a story, and I
like the way the mystery sort ofunfolds.
I like kind of the herky jerkyback and forth of Fletcher
thinks it's this and then it'snot.
There's multiple stories goingon at once and I kind of just

(05:08):
didn't see the ending coming.
So I think from start to finishI really enjoyed Fletch and the
Widow Bradley the most.

Yeah.
Yeah, I kind of like how Fletchlives I never would have seen
and I didn't see the first timeI watched it.
I didn't really see Hamilton benot that I'm spoiling anything
for Fletch fans listening tothis podcast, but I didn't see
Hamilton being the bad guy ofthat movie just because he was
so endearing and so nice toFletcher throughout the first
two acts of the movie.
So yeah, I can see what youmean.

Yeah , I get that, but at least in
the end Ham being the killermakes somewhat sense.
Jake, I'm blanking the secondSon of Fletch book, fletch
Reflected, fletch Reflected.
So in Fletcher Reflected Jackspends a lot of time undercover
trying to figure out informationabout all the possible suspects
and it seems like at the endMcDonald maybe threw a dart at

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one of the names, and for nomore reason than any of the
other suspects.
It's one person.
When you take the ride throughthe book it's a little
disappointing at the end whenit's not a really strong payoff.

Yeah, but Fletch and this could be a
discussion for a whole separateepisode is just talking about
the different books and thedifferent phases of Fletch's
life and, I think, people'sreactions to them, and we've had
discussions about where youshould read them and what order
and things of that nature.
But I will tell you and I thinkyou probably would agree with

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me, LJ, now that you'veexperienced all of them that the
Son of Fletcher books they'refine, but I think there's
definitely a step down comparedto previous entries.

Yeah , For any of you that haven't
read them, I'll give you alittle information from my
perspective.
Jack is basically Fletch and inboth stories he's completely
undercover in his investigation.
So how I could put it to you isalmost like a Donnie Brasco
kind of thing, where theFletcher were to go undercover

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as Mr Poon but he stays in MrPoon through the entire book.
That's kind of what Jack doesand Fletch in the books, but
he's in there sort of just as abookend character who kind of
helps Jack solve the mystery andkind of wrap up the story.

Fletch is definitely more of a side
character, particularly in thesecond one and you know McDonald
and you can find it anywhere.
You know originally he wantedto name these.
You know Jack's story.
They really wanted to be aboutJack and not about Fletcher.
But obviously the publisher waslike there's no way you're not
going to write another book witha character of the Fletcher's
in it and not have Fletcher thetitle.
I mean, that's just obvious.

I mean, I love that Fletcher's in
them, but he doesn't have anatural purpose in the story.

Especially the second one and reflected for
sure, yes, oh, the second one,forget it.

He literally swoops in like a
superhero.
Investigative journalist.

Yeah.

He's given the Cliff Notes version
of what's been going on andsolves the crime.

So well he literally does fly in with his
plate.

Oh it's funny, but I did really
enjoy them and I think anybodythat hasn't read them go out and
read them.
Go out and listen to them.
Dan John Miller kills it.
He's so good as the audio voiceof all these characters and
even if you do listen to them ontape on tape, even if you do
listen to them on audio, go outand buy the books anyway,
because they look amazing on ashelf.

(08:32):
Crease the binding a little bitand no one will ever know you
didn't read them.

Where did you pick up the audio?

copies of the books.
I have an iPhone so I use thelittle books app.
I guess it's Apple Books.

For me.
I use Chirp C-I-R-P, and thedifference with Chirp is you
don't need a subscription.
You can just go on buy the book, listen to it and then, when
you want to buy another one, youcan't.

That's what I'm really looking at as far as
the price goes for one of thebooks.

Yeah , they're about $12.99, $13, $14
.
Yeah, somewhere Each one tookme about a week listening to
them on commutes to work andtime in the shower and things
like that.

About a week each book Very proud of you
, I'm glad, and now you have awhole new perspective.

I do .
The books are great formultiple reasons.
If you're a fan of the Chevymovies, you can easily picture
Chevy in these stories.
If you're not a fan of theChevy movies, you can picture
Fletch the way you want topicture them.
The blonde, not so Chevy-likeFletch.
Even in the Jack books Jack isvery much like Fletch.

(09:37):
I mean it could be a Fletchnovel if you just call them
Fletch.

Oh, very much.
So yeah, there's a lot ofqualities that are the similar.
It's really funny when I readSon of Fletch by then he was
living in Tennessee and a lot ofwhat he described on his farm
was really close to actually howit was.
After reading the book and thenwhen I met him on the farm, it

(10:05):
was surreal to say, wow, this isyou know Fletch, could have
been standing here.
It's just so surreal to be inthat situation.
So, and just revisiting thebook when I read it again
recently, I'm like, wow, Iremember that.
I remember that it was so cool.

It was really funny because in the
beginning people started tofigure out that Gregor McDonald
was Fletch, but by the end ofthe series Fletch kind of
becomes Gregor McDonald.

Yes, absolutely, it really is.
It's really a lot of reflection, a lot of mirage, of that, for
sure, definitely.
I'm glad you like Widow Bradleytoo, because I really think
that's one of the underratedbooks and I really feel that
could have been a really coolmovie too.

Yeah , that's because Fletch's job
was on the line, so you couldsee that as a movie.
You know, if he didn't figureout what happened, he was
screwed.
Frank at shit can.

And we've had this discussion offline.
It really has a lot of themesthat I think are very reflective
on today's society and I thinkpeople really can relate to them
.
Would you agree with that?

I mean the fact that these books
were written in the late 70s,early 80s and just some of the
topics that Gregory McDonald isin tune with and some of the
feelings and emotions.
It just seems impossible to bethat open minded and accepted 40
, 50 years ago to have that kindof perspective, from the other
person's point of view, ofsocial issues that were very

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much unaccepted certainly atthat time and to some degree
today as well.

Right Social issues that were very
much more taboo back then, thatweren't talked about and were
looked down upon.
I think we would agree.
Yeah, I think that's where weare right now and just shows you
how open minded he was, howinterested he was in different
types of people.
There's a line, I think, inFletch 1 where Fletch says you
know, I collect people and Ithink that was Gregory as well

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that he liked different peopleand really found, I think, a lot
of curiosity in differentpeople and different walks of
life.
I couldn't agree more and it'sreflected in his stories and in
his novels.

You really just kind of don't see it
coming at the end, and maybeyou do, I don't know.
I didn't, I didn't.

When I first read it, I didn't either.
I didn't either.

We will be talking more about the
books as time goes on, so pleaseread them so you can join along
with us and have theconversation with us without any
spoilers.

That's Bob's assignment.
Bob, go out and get the audioversion of Fletch and the Widow
Breath.

It's no secret that I don't enjoy, I'm
not a reader, but honestly Imean, you know the way you
simplify it with the audio booksand you can tell, you know,
you really enjoyed them.
I'm really considering it.

You should, because I found myself
really trying to make time tolisten and something to look
forward to to continue the story.
So, anyway, that's what I didon my break.

I didn't do .
I'm right in the middle of anew gig, a new job, so I've been
training a lot for that.
I did see Adam Sandler when hecame here to Austin and I was
thinking back, wasn't it?
One time he was kind of maybebriefly talked about his Fletch
at one time.

Yes, for sure.

But he was great live and just stayed
really busy.

It's funny you bring up Sandler in
the movie Blended with DrewBarrymore.
His nickname for his daughteris Larry Wow, and I thought that
was weird.
Never heard that other thanFletch.

What happened to Larry?
I'm right here, dad.

When I IMDb'd Bella Thorne's name in
the movie, it's Hillary H I L AR Y.
Wow, I wonder if Gina Davis'sreal name was Hillary and Fletch
called her Larry as a nickname.
Kind of blew my mind.
But that's another topic foranother time.
Let's get into the news.
We have a busy show and a lotto go over.

Let's go.

The Jane Doe report.

I'm turning the story over to a professional
reporter.

Fletch fans waiting to get their hands
on a confessed Fletch DVD neednot wait much longer.
Good news by the time thispodcast drops, the DVD will have
been released, so it's nowavailable on Blu-ray and DVD.
You can get it on Amazon nextday delivery, I'm sure.
But good news, bad news thoseof you who have been clamoring

(14:39):
for a jam-packed, extra-fillededition of the new Fletch film
are going to be disappointed.
This is the bare bones editionand, in a way, why should we
expect anything more than thebare bones from Miramax and
Paramount?
Why should we expect any moreeffort than they put into

(15:01):
promoting the actual film thanthe bare?

minimum.
I agree.
I mean, they've given so little, why would they give any more?
Yeah, why change now?

There are so many movies that we see these
days that don't make the DVDrelease.
So on one hand I'm like, hey,this is great, we're going to
get a little bit more exposure,it's going to be in the stores.
But what is the big reason whypeople buy DVD?

Yeah, like there's no added value to owning
a movie digitally.
Exactly.
So the whole point in having aDVD is to get the commentary,
the extras, the deleted scenes,the goofs.
You know where they fuck up.
So what's the point of havingan actual physical copy of it?

When we had Greg on the podcast, the
topic of the DVD came up and hewas excited to do commentary.
He was more than willing to doit.
It actually, in speaking to us,reminded him to reach out to
make sure he had a hand in thequality of the DVD release.
So I'm not exactly sure whathappened, but Jake actually

(16:07):
reached out to Greg directly toget a response as to what
happened.
Jake, what did Greg say?

Yeah, so from Mottola.
He says John and I offered todo extras, but they were never
taken up on it.
He says and yet I still hearlots of people really dig in the
movie.
He says I feel like a movietoday needs to cross some
financial slash, culturalthreshold to be supported and he
said they never gave them ashot.
However, word of mouth stillexists and my secret hope is

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that we get to do a few more ofthese and get to do extras on
the next one or maybe amulti-film package.

The DVD is not going to come out with any
extras, but in all reality,think that our podcast does
exist, because you can go backto two episodes where we spoke
to Greg Mottola and right therethere's your director commentary
.

in a lot of cases, we should ask him to do
one here on the podcast.
We'll get John on, we'll justrun it and say all right, guys
go.

Laker Jim (James Kan (17:00):
Definitely .
And you know Greg, who's beenvery active on social media
replying to fans, implied thathe's not entirely opposed to
something like that.
When we put up the post onTwitter about the DVD release, a
Fletch cast fan, philipMaranello, wrote hopefully
there'll be a director'scommentary, and Greg Mottola
actually responded to him on ourpost and wrote something really

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funny.
He said sorry, there isn't one.
We offered to do it.
I guess I should have titledthe movie Cocaine Fletch Another
thing kind of where we weregoing to lead with before the
DVD news broke.
So we have some script updatesregarding the new Fletch movie
by Greg Mottola.
Back in January he posted areally cool picture of the

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Fletch's fortune book laying ontop of a notebook with a
highlighter and a pen and hewrote it may never get made, but
I'm gonna try my best.
So the good news is, while wewere on our break, the Fletch
script is started to cometogether and that's really
promising, because I know Gregis being optimistic and I think

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it's a matter of like maybe notwanting to count his chickens
before they hatch, but Greg hastold us he's been paid to write
this script, so I can't see whyit wouldn't get made Back in
February.

we asked just for an update.
His response was I justfinished a pilot last week, so
it was working.
When I could, I did a detailedoutline and have ideas for what
I'll keep from the book, whatwill change, newer, reworked
characters, et cetera.
I just started writing inearnest a few days ago and I'm
very into it, trying to put itout of my mind that it will be

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an uphill battle to get it madeand just write the best script I
can.
John and I are on the same pageabout what it should be.
I saw him in for dinner lastweek in New York City, so that
was back in late February.

And that's great.
I mean, it's just so awesome tothink that the Fletch world is
being expanded upon, right nowas you listen to this, and
although Reg posted thatInstagram Facebook Twitter post
about starting the script, he'sreally been kind of radio silent

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to the public since, but we'vebeen lucky enough to get some
updates from him.
Back in March he messaged usand said 85 pages in and, really
enjoying the process, have tostop for two weeks for a family
spring break, so that's againvery encouraging.
85 pages in would be probablyabout.

I would say , yeah, two thirds of the way
through the picture somewhere,yeah.

Yeah , two thirds of the way through
it and I think if you'reenjoying it, you're excited
about it.
I think some really cool thingsare being put on paper.

So then in April, I reached out to him just
for an update, and his responsewas this was late April.
I've done a draft in somerewrites from John and the
producer Connie, hopefullyturning into near max very soon.
So that was April 26th.

So the script is done.
Yeah, At least the story istogether.
The script is done.
John has seen it.
He's done some rewrites, that Imean that kind of came together
pretty quickly.
But then the strike happened.

Hey ho ho writers, make your favorite shows.

Hey, hey, of course.

And then everything came to a halt
Just when the Fletch train ismoving forward, something has to
come and derail it and it's thewriter strike.
So obviously the writer strikeis probably put a hold on any
advancements in the Fletchscript the Fletch is Fortune
script, and I know Greg has beenon the picket line and I'm not

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sure if everybody knows what'sexactly going on with the strike
or what the details of thestrike is, and we'll just touch
on them really quick justbecause we don't even really
understand everything.
But I know it's really centeredaround two things.
If you were to write on asitcom let's call it Seinfeld
every Seinfeld airs anywhere inthe world you get a residual

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check as a writer and a lot ofwriters count on that to make a
living.
What happened with streaming isif you get to write on a hit
show or not even a hit show, youget residuals.
But with streaming let's sayyou write on the hottest show
they have let's say it'sStranger Things there are no
residuals for writing on thatshow.
You get more money to write andthen that's it.

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So they've got to straightenthat out because the writers
deserve to be paid.
There has to be a way to figureout how many times it's being
watched or how many times it'sbeing aired, but some kind of
fair agreement has to be reachedon that part.
And then the other side is AIgrips being written by
artificial intelligence andeliminating the work of writers.

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And Jake, I don't know if youplayed around with AI at all,
but I mean, it's pretty wild.

I mean, you know, I was on the site once.
What is it?
Chat, gpt or something likethat, I think it is.
So I've messed around with it alittle bit.
But it's kind of scary thatwe're just having this kind of
conversation, that AI is nowsomething to contend with when
it comes to writing.
It's just really kind of oddand a little scary that we're at

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this point in our lifetimeswhere AI is a competitor.
But it's reality and Iunderstand why they're doing
this.

Right .

And streaming makes sense too,
because think about that.
I mean, it should be based onyou know, hey, if your show is
streamed this many minutes, youshould get this amount of money,
something like that, because Iagree one and done as far as
payments, even if it's a littlebit more, still isn't fair.

Yeah , I totally agree, and the scary
part, like you said, about AI,is it's not even close to being
as smart and powerful as it isgoing to be one day, and I think
that's what they're afraid of.
Not that it could definitelypop out a script right now, but
in the future it certainly can,and I think one of the sticking

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points is that the first draftof a script can't be created by
AI.
Yeah, so that's where we are.
Hopefully the strike ends soon.
Ironically, we had a big writerstrike during FletchLives, the
sequel to Fletch.

Right, exactly, and we saw how that
turned out.

Why wouldn't we get a writer strike
on this sequel?

Hopefully things are in motion.
I will tell you that I havetalked to other people, insiders
, that the rumor is that theyare very optimistic that this
will be made, that Fletch'sfortune will be made.

Yeah , that's great, and we mentioned
that the ConfessFletch DVD wasreleased.
Yes, a little bit more DVD news.
Jake, you want to talk to us?

Yeah so this is something that I guess
we could probably say with somecertainty that this is an
exclusive for us is that we haveheard, and actually we've been
contacted by, an individual thathas been hired to do some work
on a new Blu-ray release of bothFletch and Fletch Lives.

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This will also include acommentary as well, and so there
is an opportunity for us tohopefully maybe not do the
commentary, but at least maybeprovide some information for
said commentary.

Yeah , we've been asked to contribute
a little to that.

So now my question is and it hasn't been
answered yet is we're getting acommentary?
Is there going to be anythingelse within these releases?
Are we going to see deletedscenes?
Will we see a new documentary?
Anything like that?
I haven't heard yet.
Obviously, that's somethingthat would be amazing, but I

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know from our earlier discussionwith Tim Matheson and with
remember he was talking aboutthe fire that took place there
that it sounds like probablythat won't happen, right, but
we'll see.

Yeah , I think on the Jane Doe Fletch
Special Edition DVD.
I think if the deleted scenesexisted which they say right on
the documentary that the footagewas lost I think if it existed
in any way, shape or form, theywould have included it on that
version of the DVD.
So I think, unfortunately, wehave to let go of the hope that

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we will ever see it.
But we're still not going togive up on information regarding
the cut scenes.
We still want to know whathappened during them and we've
got some things in the works tomaybe find that out for you guys
.

We hope so.
We have reached out to manyindividuals.
We won't give up Right.
We're passionate, obviously,about all things Fletch, and our
number one goal was to provideour listeners with that
information, because I'm surethey're just as interested as we
are in this information.
So hopefully, eventually thingswill come up.

So ultimately, we wait.
We wait for the strike to endand once it does, I'm sure more
Fletch's fortune news will startto progress and pile in and
we'll report it as soon as weget it.

Love to see it in production, maybe in a
year.
That would be perfect.
Let's go, paramount.

Really can't wait to see what he's
come up with.
What is Irwin up to with thisguy?
Now?
Some sad news to report.
When we spoke to Jordan Lund,we had brought this up.
Fletch Lives has lost yetanother cast member While we
were away.
The great Richard Belzer "theBells has passed away dead at
the age of 78.

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Dead or extremely sleepy.
He played Phil Cacakis.
Now he actually had a name.
They actually gave him a namePhil in the credits, obviously
known more famously as DetectiveMunch on Law in order, but to
us he'll always be Phil Cacakiswho pushed the scrot, whether it

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was fresh or not.

Scrod's making a comeback, all right?

Doesn't matter if it's ready to go or
not.

He's fresh or not, absolutely
instrumental in the success ofthe business.

A very successful chain but, believe me, it's not
because of the food.

Bells was also instrumental in
starting.
Like we said it.
If you haven't listened to theFletch Lives Part 2, go back and
listen to it.
In the Howard Stern Chevy Chasefeud, he's the one that got
them on the phone, got themfighting Chevy Chevy Chase.

Who's who I'm talking with it's the Bells.

My darling Richard, my sweet lover, how are
you, my love?

I love you very much I love you, sweetie.

I hate to break you girls up.
Yeah, yeah, who's this?
Howard Stern?
Howard Stern, I've heard aboutyou, howard.

He's got a little more than just
being in the movie to the worldof Fletch.
But listen, guys take theseplates.
I say we do a 21 plate breaksalute.

Great idea?
Yeah, I think so too.

We're Greeks.

We dance, we break plates, we're clumsy.

Okay , here you, bob.
Yeah, jake, jake, jake, couple,yep.
All right guys, let's do thisone by one.
Ready 21 plate break.
Salute for the great RichardBelzer.

This crowd's making a comeback.
All right, Great pitch.

You're a kid.
Listen to this codfish.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's the best
way to do it.

Breakage is what he was all about.
Great pitch.
They're clumsy, they're Greek.
No offense to anybody who'sGreek, by the way.

That's actually not offensive at all.
That's a compliment.
Actually, we have a lot oflisteners from.
Greece.
All right, we'll miss you.
Bells, you're up there withUncle Cacakis, yeah, playing,
grab ass, I'm not going tomention people's butts in heaven
.

You're cute oh my gosh.

I just hope he feels sexy up there.

Oh, he does, he does.
All right, guys, let's jumpinto Fletch Pop Culture, because
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At the Teaching Hospital SacredHeart, season one, episode
three, in the opening moments ofBill Lawrence's hit TV show
"Scrubs, we're giving a clipthat is mere to dear to my and
any Fletch fans.
Heart Lakerjemp, let's hearthat clip.
Here it comes.

What do you want to watch?
Fletch, fletch, it is Seen it.

Well, you haven't seen it without saying all the
lines I'm so lucky I met you.

Maybe next time her mom could come.
Dude, you won't even know whatshe's here.

So how great is that For me, the reason I
say it's so near and dear to myheart is, you know, in any
situation where you have a movieyou love, you know you do
remember the lines.
You quote them regularly.
That's kind of the basis of whywe even started this podcast.

Yeah , this clip, I think, is a
symbol of why Fletch is so great.
It really brings friendstogether.
It's like a bond between ZachBraff and Donald Faison sitting
couldn't be closer friendswatching their favorite movie,
reciting the lines together.
That's what me and Bob didgrowing up.
It's what strengthened ourfriendship with Fletch and many

(31:03):
other movies that we loved, andthat's why we can relate to it
so much.
And you can also relate tosomebody that doesn't get it at
all.

People that watch a movie once and say I've
already seen it, I don't need tosee it again, Like the woman in
that scene.

You know We've all had that person.
It's like how can you watchthis over and over and over?
But I guess that's why this isso perfectly conveyed by Bill
Lawrence, because and, by theway, bill Lawrence, his Fletch
ties run a little deeper thanjust pop culture reference.
Yes, he was set to direct andwrite the next Fletch film at
one point, fletch War Right, andhe was going to use Zach Braff

(31:35):
as a role of Fletch.
And I was never that big of aZach Braff fan maybe because I
didn't watch Scrubs, but I wasnever that excited about him and
the role of Fletch.
But I wonder now, seeing theconnection between these two,
with Bill Lawrence at the helmand seeing what these two have
done since, I wonder if theywould have used Donald Faison as

(31:55):
, like an Alston Chambers oranother role like that in the
movie.
That's a great possibility.
Yeah, either of you guys watchScrubs.

I watched most of it and I thought it was
great.
And I think we see a lot ofthat in Ted Lasso.
I'm not sure if you guys havewatched Ted Lasso, but Bill
Lawrence is the creator of thattoo, and I just think he really
has a nice blend of drama andcomedy that, at least when you
look at the books, that's whatthat has to.

(32:27):
I think he would have been areally good choice.
But I agree with you, lj, I wasnot on the Zach Braff train at
all.

Yeah, me neither.

I mean he was just of all the
possibilities.
He was probably down towardsthe bottom for me, for sure I
wasn't crazy about him for tworeasons.

Number one I didn't think he had the
chops.
I didn't think he had thepersona to pull off Fletch.
Number two he bailed on therole.
He was in line to be Fletch fortwo different directors.
Kevin Smith had talked to ZachBraff, both being Jersey guys.
I thought maybe it could workthat when Kevin bowed out and
Bill Lawrence was brought on,zach was still the top guy.

(33:08):
But even Lawrence admits thatwhile he was writing it Braff
had already gotten scared.
Braff confirms via an emailthat he ultimately had second
thoughts about tackling the part.
There's so much passion outthere for the Fletch franchise
among the diehard fans.
Whoever takes on this remakereally has to nail it.

I think what you said, that was right.
I think it was just thetrepidation about taking on the
role, about someone wanting todo it and that huge Chevy shadow
looming.
That's, I think, where we gotstuck, and I think not only for
the actor but the studiothemselves.

(33:49):
I mean, like hey, you know,we're going to write the script,
we're going to do this, we'regoing to do this, but it just it
never came to fruition and Ithink that's, I think that was
part of it.
God bless Matola and Ham foryou know, having the balls to do
it, yeah.

And let's not forget to actors are being
advised in a lot of cases byagents and their peers.
So I mean, if a part just isn't, if you first of all, if you
feel like a part's not right foryou, that's and the story.
But maybe one day we'll get totalk to Bill Lawrence and get a
lot of these mysteries answeredfor us and that would be a great
conversation.
Oh absolutely.

I'd love to talk to him.
A self-proclaimed Fletch nerd.
He calls himself and youbrought up Ted Lasso.
He's already dropped a Fletchreference in Ted Lasso saying
I'll be your underhill any day.
So both shows, both Fletchreferences.
Bill Lawrence, definitely inthe whole fame of Fletch pop
culture.

Thanks, Bill.

All right, boys, we got a great one
in the records room, somethingI've been waiting to do for a
while, because this kind of cameout of nowhere when I was, when
I was reading all the books andI'm like what?
This is going to be a littlemind blowing for some of you.
Let's take a dive in the recordroom and see what we can find.

Dr Rosen.
Dr Rosenstein to oncology.
Dr Rosenstein to the room.
This week's Fletch castcharacter spotlight is Hand or
Hand.
Dr Rosenbaum to neurology, B-1,access granted.
Welcome, Dr Rosen.

When you think about the parts of
the Fletch movie where iconiclines just emerge.
Could there be a more classicscene than, sitting in Stanton
Boyd's office, mr Poon justscrambling for an explanation as
to why he's their grilling boy?

Well now, you know that and I know that, but
somebody's bucking for apromotion.
It's probably that pedarastHand or Hand, I don't know.
All I know is, if I don't goback with something, you and
your son-in-law are going to bethe scapegoats of the week.

And he blames that pedarast Hand or
Hand you know what, and it seemslike just a rambling ad lib by
Chevy and that's all I everthought it was.
And you know, to be honest, asmuch as I loved the dialogue, I
didn't even really know whatpedarast meant until I sort of
looked it up years after repeat.

He looked it up and said you shouldn't have.

Yeah .
So I mean I remember even I wasstill doing the website at the
time and I'm like I wonder ifthis is a real word.
Pedarast means a man who isengaged in an erotic
relationship with an adolescentboy, a man who has sex with a
boy, and I remember my jaw hitthe ground.
I mean I brought a whole newperspective to do Hand or Hand.

I always was too.
I was like that always is kindof.
Whatever I had when I wasyounger, I was like OK.

You know what I'm talking about,
something a little more dark.

You know, and even the name, like
Hand or Hand, it falls right inline with Sennlinden John
Cottonstone.
It just seems like a name thatChevy made upon the whim
Confused boy.
But there is a lot more to him.

Well, this is going to be educational for
me.

Oh, you're going to like this.

It seems like Andrew Bergman had
read a couple of the Fletchbooks, obviously before he wrote
the script to Fletch.
Ok, because Hand or Handappears in the script.
Now Pedarast isn't at the, butChevy.
The real dialogue that AndrewBergman wrote for Hand or Hand
was probably that bozo Hand orHand.
And here's where the connectiongets really cool.

(37:41):
Hand or Hand is a character inthe book Fletch and the man who
let's get into this, his nameactually is Michael J Hand or
Hand.
Ok, so he's basically like adirt prime reporter.

Oh he is.
He's like a paparazzi kind ofdeal.

Well , yes and no.
Yes and yes in the respect thatpaparazzi kind of look down as
like the bottom feeder scum oftheir profession and they do
anything to get their photos andwill paint somebody in a bad
light just to make a buck.
He sort of carries the samejournalistic morals.

(38:21):
He's just the worst.
He's the lead crime writer.
Oh, crime writing.
Ok, for a paper called Newsbilland the way Newsbill is sort of
presented as it's like a lowerclass newspaper, rag magazine.

And it's almost like a tabloid, kind of
like inquire kind of paper,exactly.

Yeah, but for but, but, but.
Instead of being aboutentertainment, it's about local
issues.

I'm assuming Local news, I should
say they seem like the type ofpaper that prints stories
without necessarily having asource, without necessarily
double checking the facts, andwant to rush to put out a juicy
headline that's going to captureattention and sell papers.

Like the inquire or something like that.
How topical, how topical withthe world Right.
And remember, this was Fletchand the man who was published in
83, I believe it was 83 thatcame out.
So you know, early 80s All youhad was newspapers, magazines,
etc.

Laker Jim (James Kanowi (39:23):
There's a quote in Fletch and the man
who.
It says everyone who can't readreads Newsbill.
But Fletch later says thatNewsbill has a bigger audience
than the New York Times and theLA Times combined.
And what Hannah Hand says iswhen he's kind of basically
going back and forth with bothFletch and who's the other

(39:45):
reporter?

Oh Freddie, yeah Freddie.

Yeah , freddie, bring the eight.
You know they're kind ofcreating insults and he says
listen, they may be like lowclass, but they all vote yeah.
And that's sort of the point ofFletch and the man who Fletch
is trying to get a governorelected president.
So he's sort of threateningthem in the respect to say
listen, what I write they'regoing to follow.

(40:08):
Who I tell them to vote for isgoing to win the election.
You're serious?
Ask anybody.
Freddie just describes hisappearance as just the most
disgusting person.

Yeah.

She's ever met black teeth, horrible
bad breath, disgusting clothingthat stinks, unshowered, unkept.
She actually says never use atoilet seat after Hannah Hand.

That's a great line.
That's a great line.

You know, I wonder if Bergman added
him to the dialogue, becauseright after he wrote Fletch, he
started to write Fletch and theman who.
That's a great call.

So you know , this is just another question
we need to ask him once we gethim on here.

Maybe he dropped that line because we
were going to later find out inthe next movie who Hannah Hand
was.
I guess he was really settingup that character.
I hope he was, because thatcould have been a really great
sleazy adversary for Chevy'sFletch, to rip apart.

Yeah, because maybe Fletch knew of
this guy and just kind of threwhim out there.
Yeah, you know, because heknows he was, like, you know, a
shitbag.
And that's another book that'sjust damn.
That's such a good book.
I hope they get to do that onetoo, matola, because that would
be a great read.

Yeah, let me propose this to you both.
You described yourself vividly.
If we're casting Hannah Hand ina Fletch movie, who are you
picturing playing Now?
I already have the answers, soI'll go first.
Okay, I'm picturing aunshowered between Shave's
Steven Roop.

Yes, that's a very good.
Yes, he's got that shifty shadyeyes.

He could do.
That's really good.
You're darkening his teeth andI think he'd be perfect for that
kind of role, especiallybecause he could play that
scumbag character so well.

Yeah, with his red swing line.

I'll tell you who I pictured in the
role.
And Jake, I don't know if youwatch this show if you're a
little bit older, but Bob and Idefinitely did.
When we were kids there was ashow on Nickelodeon called you
Can't Do that on Television.
Yeah yeah, I know exactly whereyou're going with this.
It was a kid's skit comedy show.
Yep, canadian show.
They had this guy.
What was his name?
Lai Lai Something.

(42:28):
I gotta find his name.

Yeah, he was actually the creator of the
show.

Yeah , and he played a bunch of
different characters and heplayed this disgusting cook and
he also played this kind ofdisgusting father type character
Father, yeah, yeah, and when Iwas listening to the book I
pictured him.
I just pictured this disgustingcharacter.

That's a great, great, great observation,
yeah.

Less Lai, less Lai, and, oh man, he
played gross perfectly.
It was almost like you couldsmell him right through the TV
set.

Ah, you heard that.
Absolutely, I changed my vote.
That's the perfect.
I mean, he's gone.
Now we lost Less Lai, but yeah,he's the perfect cast in that
case, Especially when youconsider that father role that
he played so well.
It's almost like the firstincarnation of Al Bundy.
You know what Al Bundy couldhave been?
Yeah, that would have beenperfect.

Yeah , definitely, I've been dying to
do sort of a book character andthis one kind of bridges movie
and the book.
And if you think about it, evenin the movie, the quick little
throwaway line by Chevy which isnot a throwaway line at all he
captures the essence ofHand-Hand because he says listen
, boyd, if you don't give mesomething to go back with,

(43:49):
hand-hand is just going to writewhat he wants and make you guys
the scapegoats of the week.

And there's still a question about him
being a pedarast.
I mean, we don't know that forsure, don't know that it doesn't
mention it in the book, but Inever know.

I know whenever I'm mixed with being a
pedarast.

You know it's funny though.
So he just throws off that lineto Boyd oh, he's just a
pedarast and he's just like yeah, who the hell accuses somebody
being a pedarast?

so blithely?

He's just a child molester.
Yeah, it's just so funny howhe's so flippant about using it
to describe Hand-Hand.
He's a pedarast.
It's just like what I mean.
He could have said that asshole, or you know that son of a
bitch, you know, hand-hand.
Where was it?
Where?

(44:42):
Number one, where was Chevy'smind at to?
To bring that up?

I think he was really he was trying to
create the situation where youknow, listen, this guy's a
pedarast and you know the worstthing you could call somebody
and trying to kind of establishtrust that he's telling the
secret.
No, like this guy.

It's true.
So he's trying to establishtrust.

Yeah , and become promoted at the
same time.

Right, you want me to go back to the story,
or you want some kiddie fiddlergetting my job?

I wonder if Frida knows about Hand-Hand.

I don't think Frida knows much what's
going on.
Oh well, well, you reallyknocked it out of the park with
this record.
I should say knocked it out ofthe record.
Wow, I love my world to hand orhand.

And it should open your eyes and your
world to the books.
Bob, See what you're missing.

God, I admire you guys for reading them
.

Well , I think that's a perfect segue
to the next segment, literaryFletcher, where we're going to
be diving deep into the bookFletcher's Fortune.
So I think we should better getout of here.
I think the government iswatching these files.

Yeah, yeah, this isn't going to leave any
good.

I'm going to be very angry Literary
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Take it away, jake.

All right, here we are Fletcher's fortune.
So, lj, you're familiar withthis and we've had discussions
about the book and how it begins.
So I'm just going to kind ofgive you an overview of the
first chapter.
I'm not even really going toread from it that much.
So what we are looking at isFletcher's back in Italy.
I remember and confess he wasliving in Italy.

(47:29):
He comes to Boston.
Now he's back in Italy, he's athis villa, he's apparently
swimming with the neighbor'swife and I think he's banging
her.
I'm pretty sure he is.
So anyway, he comes in fromswimming and there are two CIA
agents sitting in his livingroom and they proceed to tell

(47:52):
him that he is going to be goingto this journalism convention
to bug pretty much all the bigwigs at this convention, all the
big journalists.
What they're really concernedwith, or who they're really
concerned with, is this WalterMarch.
And if you remember, at the endof Confess Fletcher, the movie,

(48:14):
remember when Frank callsFletcher he mentions Walter
March.
There's a shit show going onover at March News Corp.
Old man March is retiringabruptly and he's putting his
idiot son in charge.
Well, they're going toblackmail him because Fletcher
hasn't paid any taxes in many,many years, even when he was
employed, he didn't pay anytaxes.
And now he's got this hugeinflux of money and we know

(48:36):
where it's from.
We know it's from Stanwyck, andso basically, they're going to
blackmail him to go to thisjournalism convention and to bug
these journalists.
What's interesting is and wetalked about this before, but
when the CIA agents first runinto Fletcher, fletcher calls

(48:57):
himself what Do you remember?
Lj?

He calls himself Freddie Arbenaut.

Freddie Arbenaut.
So again we're talking aboutanother male character which
will eventually turn into afemale character, but it's
really funny how he uses thename Freddie.
So basically, that's the gistof the first chapter is him
basically blackmailing him intogoing to this journalism
convention and he basically it'seither going to jail or doing

(49:28):
what they're asking him to do,basically what they're telling
him to do.
So that's chapter one.
It's a really good setup.
There's some really funny linesin it.
The second chapter is basicallyFletch at the airport calling
his friend Gibbs, don Gibbs,apparently he was a roommate of
Fletch, his freshman year ofcollege.

(49:49):
Basically, gibbs works for thegovernment and basically he's
just telling Gibbs this storyhey, I'm being blackmailed, I
don't want to do this.
Basically they go back andforth and they say look, you got
to do this.
Then his supervisor iseavesdropping on the call and
says you got to do it, you'reeavesdropping and he's like you

(50:09):
got to do this.
So basically Fletch is screwedAt the airport.
Fletch is given a key and hepulls this very heavy suitcase
out of a locker and it's thebugging equipment, it's the
recording machine, it's all thelittle bugs.
So there you go.
So that's chapter two.
Chapter three is reallyinteresting because this is when

(50:29):
he gets on the plane and I wantto tell you a line, because I
will tell you that I've usedthis line on the female
persuasion from time to time.
So Fletch gets on the planeafter having this phone
conversation with Gibbs and he'sbasically he knows he's screwed
, he's got to do this assignment, he's got to bug these rooms.

(50:51):
So he gets down and he sitsnext to this female and the
first line out of his mouth ishello, hello, I get along well
with everybody and I have usedthat line more than once.

I'm definitely going to try that.

It's a great line.
I get along well with everybody, and basically that's what I've
said.

We're all picturing the same female, right
, right.

I love a man with a sense of humor.

And you know this chapter is really
again, it's a McDonald book,very heavy on the dialogue.
They're going back and forth.
You know he calls himself, I amFletcher, she goes, you know
you're pompous and he goes.
No, I am Arton Nice.
But at the very end sheintroduces herself as Fredrica

(51:37):
Arbina.

All right, so, listen, this is where
sometimes I get jammed up, Jake.
So I love this device that GregMcDonald goes to this zig zag,
zig zag.
And so the CIA agents askedFletch's name.
He says he's Freddie Arbina.
Just makes it up.
Yeah, they get pissed off.

(51:59):
I think they even refer.
They say something like Arbisnot, I think not, or you're not,
or something.
And so when he gets on theplane he meets the girl.
She says her name's FreddieArbina.
He thinks OK, I see what'sgoing on.
You know they sent a.
Right, some type of CIA agent tokeep an eye on me, and this is

(52:24):
their way of telling me thatsomebody's keeping an eye on me.
And this is something GregMottola referenced to us when he
spoke to us is that one thinghe loves is that Fletch is not
always right, and in the end, wefind out that Fletch is not
right with this.

Right.

That her name is just that To me.
Where I get jammed up is theobscurity of the last name that
he just made up, and a name thatI've never, ever heard.

I know, I know I think really rarely run
into someone that has the samename, especially a name that
you've just pulled out of thinair.
And Fletch says you've heard ofme and he's like I made you up.

And that's the first five chapters.

That's the first three chapters.
So chapter four he's actually.
He gets to this convention,it's at his big plantation in
Virginia and he meets thehostess and what has happened is
that this Walter March, thatpretty much was the number one
target for him to bug, ends upmurdered and they have to say

(53:33):
he's like a Rupert Murdoch kindof guy.
Yeah, I would say so, yeah, yeah, like a big conglomerate.
Yeah, so, and they have decidedthat you know they're going to
go ahead with this convention ofjournalists, that they're going
to keep, they're going tocontinue this.
So this is a really interesting, I think, premise that I think

(53:54):
Metola could have a lot of funwith when it comes to just
shaping it in today's world With, again, like us, like, maybe,
instead of like, because on theplane, when, when he's having
this discussion with Freddie onthe plane, you know he sees a
news anchor on the plane, andsure, news anchors could still

(54:14):
be a part of this, but again, wecould have a little bit more of
, you know, podcasters orbloggers or, you know, maybe,
people on TikTok, on socialmedia, that have really made an
impact when it comes tojournalism, investigative
journalism, things like that.

Laker Jim (James (54:31):
Investigative journalism has really become
TMZ.

Oh, it really is, yeah, yeah.
And you see only murders in thebuilding like these, these
people kind of taking on rolesof investigators and going back
and trying to solve these long,you know many, many years old
unsolved mysteries and trying tomake some headway with that.
So I think that would be a lotof fun to see that on film.

(54:54):
Agreed.

Very easy way for Metola to
modernize the story.

So chapter four basically is just him
getting to the convention, tothis conference, having a
discussion with with Helena, whobasically is the hostess.
But there's a line here andwe've talked about this because
she thinks this, this Fred Ricaor Freddie is Fletch's wife and

(55:19):
there's actually a couple offunny lines in this chapter and
she goes hello Mrs Fletcher, andFletch says this isn't Mrs
Fletcher and Helena says oh, I'msorry.
We're also used to greetinganyone with Fletch as Mrs
Fletcher because he's alreadybeen married, you know, twice at
this time.

Yeah , that's great.

Fletch says this is Freddie Arbenot and she
says Freddie.
So many of your girls have hadboys names.
That girl we met with you inItaly, andy.

What's your girlfriend's name?
Andy Angela, andy, angela.
Right there down, grace, it'sAngela de Gracie.

No, there's a reference to confess, and
then Fletch says Barbara andLinda, and then he says Joan.
Oh right, you know.
So now we're we're bringing up,you know, joan Collins again
Interesting, but it's justreally funny that there's these
kind of throwbacks.

So him and Mrs Stamwick must have
been enough of a thing to useher to defend his case, right,
yeah, and even Gail Stamwick, orJoan, comes back in another
book.
She does, you know.
So her character returns andyou kind of don't expect it when
she does.
So, yeah, there's lots of funlittle things you find when
you're, when you're reallyexploring the books, and I'm so

(56:31):
glad I did and I'm so glad we'reback to doing literary Fletch,
because you know, this is, thisis going to give people a little
bit of an insight, a little bitof an outline to what to expect
from the next movie.

Yeah, I really so.
I mean, the rest of thatchapter really is just them,
discussing Walter March how hiswife found the body he was
killed with a pair of scissorsand then chapter five is just
basically Fletch in his roomdiscovering the bugging
equipment and how it actuallyworks.

You're not recording this, are you no?

never , never.
God, I love that.
So what do you think?
Do you think this movie isgoing to go in a slightly
different direction, since themovie confess ends with Frank
telling Fletch to go investigatethe son instead of March, the
way it happens in the book?

Well, at the time in the book March was
still in charge, I mean, but hisson is a character in the book,
yeah he definitely is acharacter, along with the wife
and his son.

But to almost have something in mind
is it was interesting to leaveus with that version of the
cliffhanger ending.

Yeah, that doesn't really gel with how
Fletch's fortune starts and howhe actually is exposed to March
for the first time.
He's exposed to March for thefirst time when he's basically
blackmailed to go to theconference and to bug them.
And here's a question too whendo you see the characters?
He wants to bring back Gris, hewants to bring back Monroe.

(58:08):
I'm sure he'll find a way toget them in there.
It would definitely be adifferent dynamic if Fletch
walks in in the first chapterinstead of the CIA agents.
You know Gris and Monroe aresitting there.

And maybe they say kind of like we
know you had the soul in Picasso.
You're either going to go tojail for theft or you're going
to do us this favor.

Now that's a good point, I mean.
So I mean, like it might not bethe taxes angle, it could be
the fact that he still has thePicasso and hey, you want to
keep that Picasso.

You've got to do this for us Because
Metola told us he's definitelyusing the Picasso in some ways
Right.

So it could be that angle and just pulling
that taxes angle out, you couldcontinue to bring Gris and
Monroe to the conference andjust basically there, maybe to
keep an eye on Fletch.
But remember, other FBI agentsshow up later and then there's
that whole thing with thebugging and what they get into

(59:11):
and then Fletch ends up withthat whole other blackmailing
thing.

So this one I hope for Monroe and
Gris is safe.
That's not them at the end.

I hope so too, because what the material
he gets on those guys isfantastic.
It could really play out and itcould be really, really funny.

How much time, would you say,
between meeting Stanwyck on thebeach and getting ready to bug
this convention?

I would say less than two years.
I'd say 18 months and two years, because he was in Rio for six
months, maybe close to that, Ithink, in Italy.
Then he was in.
I would say the confess windowwas what do you think?
I mean he was only in Boston inthe book for a week.
So I would say this was between, say, the end of Fletch and

(01:00:03):
confess.
I would say it's less than acouple of years.
I'd say 18 months.
It wasn't a long stretch oftime by any means.

Laker Jim (James Kanowi (01:00:14):
Because at the convention everybody
knows him.

Jake (Jake Parrish) (01:00:16):
Yeah, and he's still talking about writing
the book with Edgar ArthurThorpe and the painting.
I mean, it's mentioned overseveral books that that's what
he's been working on.
It's mentioned again in thisbook more than once.
Because in chapter twoFreddie's like oh, you're
unemployed right now.
You must be writing a novel.
And he's like yes, I'm writinga novel on Edgar Arthur Thorpe.

(01:00:38):
And she's like in Italy.
And he's like well, it gives mea different perspective.
The American cowboy painter,you're writing that in Italy.

Laker Jim (James Kanowitz) (01:00:51):
You know it'll be interesting as to
who Metola casts as Freddie,because we threw out a couple
names to him, but it's mentionedseveral times in both Fortune
and man who that she has likegolden blonde hair.
I wasn't thinking blonde when Iwas thinking Freddie.
I was thinking of dark hair.

I was, you know.
I always thought dark hair too,and I would read that I would
imagine her is like with abrunette A.

Laker Jim (James Kanowitz (01:01:17):
Sarah Silverman type or that sort of
who I pictured.
But now this is great.
I love diving into the booksnow, and the more we can connect
it to the movies and theoriginal movies and things like
that, it just it makes it allthe more fun to discuss.

Big Bob (Bob West) (01:01:33):
Guys, I'm going to, I'm going to say
something here that's going tomake you both happy.
From this episode, you guyshave convinced me I'm going to
purchase.
I'm going to purchase my firstaudio.

Oh, so which one are you going to
purchase?

That's the big one.
Well, Jake, that's.
That's.
That's the question that I'mnot going to answer.

You're going to answer what's a
timeline?
Because I always want you to goright to Fletch's Fortune,
because I think that's going tobe top of mind here for the next
, and if it's going to take yousix months to listen to an audio
book, I might want you to startto Fletch's Fortune, so at
least you know where we are.

Okay, I'm going to say that by next
recording I'll have, I'll haveone done.
Wow, all right.
Well then, do one, that'sstarted in the beginning.

Let's start with Fletch one and then just
go that way.

I like this, I like this challenge
.
I appreciate you.

I mean, I said it, so how can I, how can I
go back?
People will crucify me.

So here's the thing I will take you at
your word, but there will be aquiz afterwards.
Oh fuck.

He's a bad test taker.

You know what?
It doesn't matter.
My problems aren't yourproblems.
I'm on, I'm doing it.

Well , on that note, that about wraps
up this episode of Flashcast.
I'd like to thank everybody forlistening, all the OG fans, all
the new fans that have comeaboard.
Thank you so much.
We really appreciate it.
Coming up next week, danaWheeler Nicholson will be on the
show with us.
It's going to be a great one.
Until then, please follow us onsocial media Twitter X,

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facebook, instagram, where I amFletchcast.
Leave us a review on iTunes orwherever you listen to the
Fletchcast.
We really would appreciate notonly a five star rating but a
really nice review.
It would mean the world to us.
Until next time for Jake andBob.
I'm Laker, jim.
Great job, boys.
Feels good to be back.

Yeah, it was great.

Laker Jim (James Kanowitz (01:03:29):
We're going to catch the last 10
minutes of Dynasty, see ya.

Later, Bob.
Great job all around everybody,because, goddamn, you guys are
on point.
Thanks, Bob.

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